Games, nintendo specifically, are becoming obsessed with big ass, time wasting maps and open worlds. What caused this new form of developer autism in games? Did they forget how to make menus?>mk world>hundred line academy>metroid 4>fortunes weave>unicorn overlord>splatoon raiders
>>744231725it fits normie brains better and the japs were convinced to switch over right around the same time they started getting obsessed with garbage like vtubers
>>744231825What do vtubers have to do with open worlds and normies?
>world maps are bad now
>>744232535Are you seeing all the stupid time wasting nodes on the screen? These secondary mechanics belong in a CRPG from the 90s
>>744231725Every studio was obsessed about them 10-15 years ago and that's how much Nintendo consoles are usually behind in tech. So, they just got there where their consoles can handle big open worlds.
>>744232798>was
>>744231725breath of the wild>>744232535for fire emblem yes
Because having worlds to explore at your leisure as opposed to a series of levels is just cool. It's why games like Minecraft, GTA or TES became huge successes.
>>744233315Its why >game that wastes your time>game that wastes your timeand>game that wastes your timebecame huge successes
>>744232737>a CRPG from the 90ssounds based to me
>>744233403Your brain has been fried by mobileslop.
>>744233945You listed minecraft and GTA
>>744234015>You listed good games that are still played more than a decade after their release
>>744234116And they are filled with time wasting mechanics and massive empty worlds
>>744231725Splatoon raiders has a world map not an open world nigger
>>744231725this is the fire emblem thread now okay
>>744237262https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bA5mBcHX6NY
>>744237262Are jannies deleting FE threads again?
>>744237262>3, count em, three persona threads on the log>jannies delete fe threads on sight even with daily updates
>>744237689Yep. Although to be fair, I'm not sure if we're getting an update tonight so it might be better to give them a break until the next one.
>>744237689I think they crack down during the day but ease off during night since that's when updates come.
>>744231725because normalfaggots eat that shit upmost of the unnecessary shit in vidya that has no business having certain features (open world, survival, crafting) is because normalfags will buy it if it's listed on the box
>>744234228I’m sick of these vapid criticisms, wtf does “wasting your time” even mean? Are you mad you have to travel across a map instead of selecting a level?
>>744237689yeah>>744237748we should be allowed to talk about what ever game when ever we want
>>744237794Well who knows if we're getting an update tonight after the earthquake. We already broke the existing pattern by having back to back Theodora/Megaera's Light updates. Who knows what/when the next update'll be
>>744237893>Are you mad you have to travel across a map instead of selecting a level?yes, in fire emblem I want to go chapter to chapter with nothing in between
>>744231725They pioneered this with OOT and you niggers claim it's the best thing since my dick went up your asses.
>>744237983That's just not going to happen. When is the last time that happened?
>>744237893How would you describe the process of mining in minecraft? Or searching for biomes and structures?
>>7442380677 i think
>>744237982We'll have to see. Funny that it happens right when we're supposed to be upping the ante on these. I wonder if we'll get some weekend drops to compensate.
>>744237881>survival crafting
>>744238154Everyone's got their preferences but you might as well complain about calendars in persona or third person in fallout12 games and 20 years ago
>>744238000OOT had a bunch of shortcuts and warp songs at least. And its an adventure game anyways, a world is required. Why does there need to be a world in mario kart or splatoon?
>>744237689Looks like it.rip to any anons that are getting banned for making FE threads
>>744238323I dont thing the calander negatively impacts persona and I dont play fallout
HURRY HURRY HURRY BUY MY RICE AND CURRY
Are we here now?
>>744238943We here for now
>>744231725Skyrim happenedAs we all know, japan is like 10 years behind american trends, shit like The Duskbloods for example is copying Tarkov
>>744231725Damn that map is ugly. It kind of reminds me of WOL from smash ultimate
>>744231725>Unicorn Overlord such a filler-fest that doesn't do its setting justice
>>744231725>newThis has been around for years. Its padding. Makes the game seem more grand and full on content than it is. Artificially extends the total playtime. Ubisoft made it a staple of modern gaming
>>744231725>Games, nintendo specifically, are becoming obsessed with big ass
Is act 6 worth doing in SoV or am I finally free from this shitty game
>>744239169Ubisoft is its own tier of pointless filler that no nintendo game has reached yet>>744239291
>>744239318SoV isnt worth playing
>>744239318It's the only time you're ever going to get any real use out of the DLC classes if you have those. Otherwise, I wouldn't bother with it because it's just another long tedious Echoes dungeon.
>>744239404>ass picThanks anon
>>744231725seething tranny you lost and got BTFO
>>744231725splatoon raiders isn't open world you dumb faggot. hundred line academy and unicorn overlord aren't nintendo games
>>744239630?
This franchise is ass
for me it's Ivy
>>744239767Camilla just found this chick and a 4 foot tall assassin and made them governors of nohr
>>744239698engage fags lost
Ojou in 8 minutes
They make babies in their ending
gbaCHADS, check in.>no mapshit>no forgeshit>no skirmishit>no minigame tea party shit>no bloat>just gameplay
>>744231725>nintendo specifically, are becoming obsessed with big assYeah?
>>744240219How do you have FE gameplay without any maps to battle on? I don't get it...
>>744240219Haha y-yeah, gba reporting for duty! N-no skirmishes here...
>NothingDid the earthquake destroy japan or something?
>nothingWe might be waiting a bit again.
>>744240112We are forsaken...FUCK LECHNER AND HIS EARTHQUAKE POWERS
>>744240283Arena
>>744240326Eirika makes for a great slave
>>744240219>>no mapshit>>no forgeshit>>no skirmishitsacred stones has that but you can ignore for the most part, thats how it should be
Intern-kun... RIP in Peace...
>>744240440what if two hung futas raped Valter haha....
>>744240389No, but it did kill some people and caused a shitload of damage. I don't think they're going to be posting anything for a bit.
>>744240389>>744240401>>744240407Japan is in the middle of a national tragedy and crisis, and you FAGS are out here bemoaning the lack of an update on your SLOP??Fire Emblem and its fanbase truly have no dignity left.
>>744240568Nobody told them to live on a fault line
>>744240568Take this attitude to ResetEra or Famiboards. We can wonder when news might resume while also respecting the reasons for pausing it.
>>744231725Nintendo is like 15 years behind on this trend. This ubishit started with Assassin's Creed. Next nintendo is going to be making uncharted and last of us clones mark my words.
For me it's Shamir>>744240149So does Byleth with Shamir, Manuela, and Flayn
>>744240389>>744240546>FW marketing kicks into full gear>Immediately a massive earthquake happensEven God hates the franchise. He must be a big Smash fan.
>God denied me my update
>>744237947Then... make a general?
Make intern-kun do a weekend update to compensate
>>744240764Why, I think I will in fact
>>744240778That might be what they do. I wonder if they'll pause Nintendo Today updates since it'll be caught up by Thursday morning now.
Goddammit Japan, why did you insist on building your country on top of a fault line
I am curious how this is gonna work when they do start back up with the updates again. Are they just gonna continue like nothing happened or are they just gonna dump a fuckton of info on one day?
>>744240672>slow cinematic zombie survival sonic game
Japs are such pussies
>>744240389live footage of the "earthquake"
we're gonna get an update in 43 minutes, screen cap this
Does anyone remember how long Nintendo delayed the direct that revealed TotK's name in the UK when Elizabeth died? That might be a good barometer for how long this lasts.
Looks like we're on disaster mode until further notice
>>744240708>>744240753Because of that there big chance the FW next trailer is delayed
FWiggers get OUT, this is a gbaGOD thread now
I don’t think Twitter likes FW so far guys
>>744241060I bet the ants are really upset about this pic
We need to rescue intern-kun from Nintendo jail.
>>744241060I don't think you like it either, ant boy.
>>744241060
>>744241060I can't read that shit nigga
>>744240852Yep, straight up, I will bet you one dollar that once nintendo is done making ubisoft clones from 15 years ago, (just like they made atari game clones from 15 years ago with the NES) there's going to be linear mario and zelda games with cinematics, emotions and storytelling being the focus, where you have to press x to win during long drawn out action setpieces. You'll have to mash the A button while bowser and mario clash atop a volcano and after a big explosion separates the two mario will quip "itsa no hair off my ass" while the screen fills up with goombas and mario automatically latches onto a chest high wall then the game gives you control back. Nintendo fans will love it ofc because they don't know any better. Nintendo is going to be making sony moviegames you can count on it. It's okay when they do it though. Miyamoto is my dad and I love him.
>>744241060Go back to your shitty Discord server, retard.
>>744241029iirc the last time an Earthquake caused a delay was in 2018. Nintendo froze all their marketing stuff for about a week, and that was on a 6.6 Earthquake while this recent one was a 7.1.https://www.businessinsider.com/nintendo-direct-canceled-due-to-earthquake-in-japan-2018-9
>>744241331Yep, FW next trailer is delayed
>be Japanese >live in Japan >earthquake happens>die
>>744241331Damn. Alright then. If there's no NT tomorrow morning I guess we can call it an extended recess.
>be Japanese>live in Japan>earthquake happens>my house is destroyed>at least I have my fire emblem news to look forward to>check twitter>........Nintendo should think about who they're really hurting
>>744241058BASED
>>744241267They already have a movie division, why would they need to make movie games?
I'm not trying to downplay the severity of things but at what point exactly is the cutoff for these mourning blackouts. Like did Nintendo Europe twitter accounts stop posting after that Berlin terrorist attack? I don't think the FE twitters stopped posting when that Pokemon Center employee got killed and that's directly tied to Nintendo.Earthquakes happen all the time in Japan, does there need to be a certain death toll threshold for them to go radio silent? If it just injures people do things go on as normal? What about just one death?
>>744241331Aren't Earthquakes in Japan pretty frequent tho? Did this one hit especially hard or something?
>>744241503They got enough in the chute to market anyway. Pokopia has DLC come out next week and a free update to build underwater. I'm sure we'll come together the next time they update.
>>744241617is it mourning? I just assumed an earthquake could effect people getting to work
>>744241619it hit a southern region, Kumamoto. They had a bad earthquake almost a decade ago and they just got back together. A mall collapsed with an explosion on the premises, people are trapped. I believe the hospitals are at max capacity in the region. It's got some cultural clout; big historic castle, One Piece author's hometown.
intern-kun is running to work with a slice of bread in his mouth please be patient
>>744241756It's past noon in Kyoto...
>>744240850next update will be the trailer, that's what
If the earthquake is bad enough nips tend hold on whatever they were planning to show out of respect and solidarity. They just don't want to be seen as being insensitive
>>744239318There's a unique boss down the bottom of the dungeon. Whether you give enough of a fuck to fight it is up to you.
>>744240219>no forgeshitForging really was a mistake but you know, for all the shit I give 3H's gameplay I do think it had the only good forging system in the series. Only a single upgrade and the weapons still for the most part kept their strengths and weaknesses intact, no nullifying the weakness of an axe by forging it +100 hit or whatever. The only shitty thing about it was the annoying material cost and that you can't name forged weapons. Seriously bring that back, it was one of the fun parts about forging weapons.
>>744241837That cultural sensitivity was one of the reasons Advance Wars reboot died in the crib
>>744241706I always assume it is. These twitter updates do not need people going into the office and I'm pretty sure twitter still allows scheduled tweets. These tweets have to be ready to go way in advance so I can't see how this would actually affect tweets being posted.
>>744241619>Aren't Earthquakes in Japan pretty frequent tho?Yes, but most of them aren't hitting a 7+ on the Richter scale and the epicenter is usually some ways away from Japan. Pic on the left is a notable one from earlier this year, and the one on the right is what just happened in Kyushu.>Did this one hit especially hard or something?Most Earthquakes in Japan just cause a couple injuries and maybe a few freak deaths, but aren't usually fatal. All the cities in the area around the epicenter got really fucked up and there's dozens of confirmed deaths right now and hundreds of injuries, last time there was an earthquake this bad was in 2024.
>>744241603Because it's last year's trend, same with 'x franchise goes open world." Cinematic movie games are what became huge after the open world meme died down, it's only logical that after nintendoheads get tired of open world they'll move on to moviegames, where the rest of the gaming space is already tired of it. IMO most nintendo fans are inside of a walled garden of sorts, they're following the trends of other companies that are already stale, but to nintendoheads it's still fresh and exciting. BOTW isn't a shit game, it's just that for anyone who owned anything other than a nintendo console ubisoft towers, collecting bobbles, clearing encampments and survival crafting were already played out. Now that movie games are all but played out, nintendo will introduce this concept to it's audience and they'll love it just as much as I loved Uncharted 2 before every game became Uncharted 2. After they're done making movie games they'll move onto gacha games.
>>744241857The other good thing about 3H's forging system is that it encourages using gambits and stunning monsters in order to get rare crafting material. I never do New Game +, so those special craftable weapons are good for non crest units.
fuck, marry, kill, friend
Intern-kun died in the earthquake...
>>744241996As shown in the picture.
>>744241712>look it up>the mall that got destroyed literally just finished being rebuilt after the earthquake you mentionedGod really hates the Japanese sometimes
>No! NO!! Aahhh! How are threads gonna stay up on /v/ now?>Huh...? JANNIES!!ARE YOU READY>N-no, I'm not ready at all, in fact, I've got lots more threads....ARE YOU READY>This is just a minor setback in our major operatio-Aahh! >Soon as we get some more updates, we'll be back in business! We still have Nintendo Today...>I just need a little more time...>No, please don't-Aaaahhh!>Just a little more time!>I promise we'll get some updates soon!! I promise!!! NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
>>744241996It's 'tand for me
>>744241996marry, friend, kill, fuck
>>744242042>God really hates the Japanese sometimesthey live on a fault line
>>744242074Lips made for shota cock
Dietrich and the squad
>>744241996Marry UltandFuck LilianFriend MikaelaDESTROY ESMERALDA
>>744242050This just means we're gonna get a denser update schedule once things resume. Trvst the plan.
>>744242116So does California but I'm still kicking thank you very much
>>744241996Kill the one that looks like the ugly bitch from HorizonFriend with the one on the far leftFuck the chick next to Horizon bitchMarry the green-haired one, she seems fun
What mechanic do you want to make a return? I want Rescue back.Yes, we all want Weapon Triangle. You can say something else.
>>744241996Fuck MikuMarry UltandKill the gold-diggerBefriend the mom
>>744238421You are not the target audience though
>>744241996Marry Ultand.Friend Miku.Kill Coinpurse.Fuck milf.
i don't understand with the appeal of obsessing over an not-yet released game and making a dedicated fan culture of them
>>744242258>Yes, we all want Weapon Triangle. You can say something else.uhhh the magic triangle
>>744242370>i am autisticwe KNOW
>>744242370I think that's half the fun of 4chan
>>744241996Fuck EsmeraldaMarry UltandKill LilianFriend Mikaela>>7442422583H didn't remove weapon triangle doe. You could turn it off for your units but enemies generally had at least one breaker skill.
>>744242258I want a second generation game again. This time in the FE4 style where the second generation replaces your old roster. I think trying to optimize the Child Units is really fun and adds a lot of replay value. The main problem with Fateswakening child units is that you can still use the parents, so child units are largely a waste of time because you can't afford to level them up when you can just keep funneling resources in to their parents
>>744242245Sluts!
>>744242440Breaker and Break aren't weapon triangle. Those are just skills and status effects.No, I want axes to become stronger and more accurate against lances, etc.
Why did the VERDANT Wind route have to have this ugly as fuck yellow color scheme for everything instead of using green.Also I can't take the story seriously with these fucking comedic relief golden deer clowns in the cutscenes. I especially can't take Hilda of all people being the second in command after Claude and her being the one to give out the missions that Seteth gave out in Silver Snow.
>>744242135Dietrich gets a super high strength growth character and a Axe user with inbuilt +20 hit to all attacks This is already some broken as fuck shit
>>744242258Combat artsThe dungeon crawling in Echoes but ofc I expect better implementationEchoes styled forgingComplex recruitments
>>744242506>Breaker and Break aren't weapon triangle. Those are just skills and status effects.Duh. They convey a similar effect though. I like the option of being able to forego the benefits of WT for an extra skill slot. 3H's implementation wasn't the best since I dropped breaker skills on most units by the end but I still think the idea is neat.
>>744242456No no no, you see, the Divine Desert Dwagon isn't like that. Lilian just misunderstood the job being offered!
>>744242605>and a Axe user with inbuilt +20 hit to all attacksCaspar had this same passive, and Caspar was a bad unit.Also, it's not "all" attacks. Just 1-range. So throwing axes are even worse.
I wonder what's gonna happen when the NT updates catch up if we're not going to get anything new for a while.
>>744242651>They convey a similar effect though.No really. Because the big thing about weapon triangle is that it is ever-present throughout the game.Breaker skills only exist on units with Breaker skills equipped (read as: nobody, it's a bad skill).Break becomes worse as the game goes on, because the enemies you want to use it on start being immune to it.
>>744242669Maybe they'll switch to doing the cutscenes we got on Xitter in the meantime. They have enough to last a week imo.
>>744242613>Complex recruitmentsI'd even be down for just hiring units with gold in FW again. Like Ursula costs 5,000 to recruit in all routes, but maybe has one route where she drops to 4,499 for a character reason.
>>744242605>>744242661Anyone else disappointed that they're reusing Personal skills for some of these units? Kinda takes the whole "Personal" part away, they should come up with new abilities for everyone based on their character.
>>744242669It sucks that we're missing out on character drops but honestly, my cope is that they were getting stale anyway. Sick of seeing shitty 30 second critical hit clips that tell us nothing about the gameplay, the blaze arts, nothing and the best part of them was always when an unexpected was revealed incidentally like Lilian, not the focus character itself usually.So I think we will definitely miss out on those in the short term, but I doubt the trailer will be affected, since it was most likely coming out next week anyway. And this incentivizes them to get off their fat asses and just release it already when updates resume, especially since NT updates are catching up even sooner than projected now. That's my current theory.
>>744242731nta but we've already seen that some recruits are going to require you to do some side mission for them before you can recruit them. So the recruiting will have more thought put into it than getting certain stats up, but it would be funny if there were a few units like Lillian or Anna that you could just buy for an instant recruitment.
>>744242698>Breaker skills only exist on units with Breaker skills equipped (read as: nobody, it's a bad skill).As I said, enemy generics typically have it. One of the breaker skills gives +20 avo so facing an enemy with a losing weapon type in the triangle could still be dicey hit rate wise. I don't really care about the +1/-1 Mt effect since it stops mattering much outside of early game.
>>744242743>Anyone else disappointed that they're reusing Personal skills for some of these units?... did you not play Engage? Or even 3H? Both were already reusing personal skills.Alear and Veyle were just Camilla and Elise. Mikaela is just Caspar who is just using Heartseeker, it even had the same icon!
>>744242552Funny. I find Azure Moon so overdramatic.
>>744242743Bernasneeda stole Rinkah's amazing personal skill
>>744242908I expect most of those "quests" will be to either do a skirmish, or do a skirmish and open a chest after that. Like Skyrim radiant quests.I'd love some recruitments like Farina, Rennac, or Sylvain, though. Imagine if Lilian or Ursula charges more or less based on the lord.>Lilian thinks Dietrich is handsome, so she charges 4,500>takes pity on Cai, 4,000>standard 5,000 for Leda>sees that Theodora is wealthy, 8,000but then Ursula has different opinions, so she has different rates per route.
>>744241957stop. Do not speak it into existence.
>>744243132It is inevitable, Mr. Anderson.
>>744243116lilian is a soldier from salami, she's already on theo's crew.
>>744243210Assuming she's not an optional recruitment in a tutorial.
>>744242985>>744243115Yeah and I'm not a fan of it there either. They came up with all new stuff for Fates and then just gave up in every game since?
>>744243297or they figured out which ones are really good and are using them progressively to differentiate units.
>>744243297Do you have any idea how hard it would be to make 40+ personal skills every game with zero overlap? And then do this for four games?Wait until you see personal skills in Heroes!
>>744243210She's also someone that has no respect for the queen and only does shit if she gets paid for it. Girl has no loyalty and could easily be recruited if you offered her a bigger paycheck.
>>744243114I mean overdramatic is fine when the story of 3H takes itself so seriously. But am I supposed to find Raphael complaining about not having enough for seconds right before we talk about getting help from Judith to be endearing or something.
>>744243297I get where you're coming from but the reality is, Fire Emblem has recylced skills since the early days, we're just acclimated to it for non-personal skills. I remember when I realized Rally skills are just reskinned Tide skills from Radiant Dawn with modified icons.There are only so many useful and distinct effects you can have before you start running up against the edge, so might as well own it and stretch that soup out. Even Caspar's personal is dangerously close to being a clone of Benny's skill in addition to Heartseeker which it more explicitly references in its icon.
Every studio is chasing that GTA money it is only just now so much easier to fit in a large map into a game and give users that freedom they always bitch about
>>744243474they tried making more subdued and less impactful personal skills in engage and it didn't pay off. heartseeker is a really good skill. makes sense to me they'd make that limited to a specific unit.
>>744243442Yes. Because he's 6'3 and an absolute unit. You know hard it is to keep that much muscle on?
>>744243546Yes, Engage personals are weenie hut jr. bull crap. I'm glad personals are looking strong again even if a few are recycled.
>>744241843I gave enough of a fuck and it wasn't worth it. I did not enjoy this game.
Wait a minute! This isn't a huge maps thread... This is a fucking FE thread!
>>744243719Here, have a map!
>Fire Emblem having an unironic fat man fetish woman.And people will romance her? Crazy.
Golden shitfire (and three hopes as a whole) made me think less of the deers. Like they don't stand for anything, they're just caricatures. Claude will say "Fuck the alliance, I'm going to be king now" and they just go "Yes Claude", then he says "I'm going to take down the church and kill Rhea just because I feel like it" and they go "Yes Claude" without a second thought. In the other routes he'll just hand over the deers so now they fight for the kingdom or now they fight for the empire, which is extra funny since if he then betrays the empire he starts shittalking the deers that he himself sent to fight for them.
>>744243719FE has hueg maps tho
>>744243789she likes older men says nothing about fat
>>744243789I can fix her...
You are hiding Fire Emblem fans under your floorboards, are you not?
>>744243616so nooooow we like bad unit balance
>>744243745FW characters for this feeling
>>744242613I thought the Echoes dungeon crawling was already kinda fun, but FW could make it better.Pretty much the only thing I liked about that game lol
>>744243850Would Tialla delete the Fire Emblem thread on /v/?
>>744243829I mean older men aren't known for being in tip top shape.Specially the ones with cash.
>>744243876Anon, it's good unit balance. We want units to feel special and different, not be interchangeable clones of each other.
>>744243880For your image? Ultand.
>>744243798Should've known not to trust a guy named after AI.
>>744243975you think having units that are waay better than others is good balance?
Don't get it.Don't we hate skill emblem? I'm sure Andaron Saga got blaster here for having overpowered personals.
>>744243850First, Tialla came for the Tellius fags, and I said nothing.Then Tialla came for the Binding Blade fags, and I still said nothing.Then Tialla came for the Engage fags, and I said "Make sure you get the Engage fags."
>>744243991His image didn't contain any brown people.
>>744243974>I mean older men aren't known for being in tipbonventure and tobias are right there
Tiara Augusto, ikima-ACK
>>744244014Yes? Where does this idea come from that everyone should be an enormous samefag that 3H and Engage started? I guess I answered my own question.Unit balance doesn't mean everyone should be the same, it just means units should be "balanced."
brown sugar
>>744243798Tbf when Edelgard was turned retarded he lost the chance to for an alliance with the empire.I like how Lions cuck him out of his plans there.Also it's funny how for the worse Marianne came of compared to Mercedes. Fake church girl vs actual church girl.
>>744244112Dietrich and Esme just look so...good...together.
>>744231725>big ass, time wasting maps and open worlds>splatoon raiders
>>744244065That's why I said the ones with cash who are presumably the ones she likes because like Dorothea, she wants financial stability.
Should I play Jugdral or Archanea games next? I could also do Conquest but it intimidates me.
>>744244134We were so close to figuring out if this was a boy or girl this week. Run along now, mystery nigga.
>>744243974>I mean older men aren't known for being in tip top shape.FE old men are eternally /fit/, even the greybeards look like they could still fuck someone up.
>>744243991W-What's this?
>How it feels living in California watching all these other places (Japan Russia Venezuela etc) suffer Fuck You Die Nigger tier earthquakes meanwhile we've been overdue for one for over 30 years
>>744244241Ultand recruit chapter
>>744244119which one fucking is it you guys shit on engage for having units that are better than others but now actually thats what balance means
>no new Leda's character revealLeda got shafted, bigly.
>>744244353There was an earthquake.Probably don't expect more updates until next week.
>>744244353By Lechner involuntarily and later by Dietrich voluntarily
>>744244241The ring babe showing off her rings.
>>744244392>every day an update is delayed is another day Lechner fucks Leda all night in a tent
>>744244316The idea that there are DRASTIC, UNBRIDGEABLE differences among Engage units is largely a myth perpetuated by casuals who played the game one time in 2023 and didn't know how to build units. The characters tend to rapidly converge on "archetypes" as emblems, inherited skills, forges, and engravings smooth out rough edges and differences. That's where all the Bonded Shield + Lyn shitposting comes from (it's true no matter how much it hurts Engagecel pussy).Open reclassing was a mistake, shitty personal skills are at least misguided in the era of reclassing, and game devs should be cautious about making strong effects too "free." Make units distinct again. Camilla was never the problem and Odin was never the problem; the problem is shit units like Becca, not good units like Marcus.
>World maps are bad nowMaybe gaming isn't for you anymore unc?
>>744244303Is this recruitment erotic in nature
Engage will have better maps and gameplay than FW on top of having better character design.
>>744244353>Lechner took over the twitter account and doubled-down on the Theodora characters>Now Lechner caused a massive Japanese earthquakeWhy is Lechner like this?
>>744244494>Camilla was never the problemcamilla is definitely a problem
>>744244353>Earth dragonWas it his doing?
>>744231725>time wastingWhat exactly do you think a video game is?
>>744244494>+ Lynbunet with lyn and kagetsu with lyn will not be the same unit no matter how much you say it
>>744244720They are extremely similar after you resource dump the shit out of their flaws and make them your chief juggernaut. I've done it with Jade, who is basically Bunet+, so I can attest to it.This is the problem with Engage. Yes, on paper, there are these differences. But the solutions are too consistent across the cast and too strong. It's hard to find a perfect parallel for a meta-defining skill like Canter in Fates, but it's probably something like Elbow Room/Cav skills or Samurai skills.Now count how many units have these in their base class set per route and you start to see the issue with Engage. Imagine if you could just purchase Vantage on 5 units every run.
>>744244858>after you resource dump the shit out of their flaws and make them your chief juggernaut.why do you guys act like this is a non factor?
>>744244541Very much so
>juicing your unit to the point of absurdity breaks the gameWaow. I really needed a Fatesfag to tell me that.
>>744244975It's not that it's a nonfactor, it's that in most games, if you resource dump, there are still HARD differences that can't be made up. In Engage, after a full scrimblo sesh, there are approximately 3-5 different types of units, broadly speaking. "Slow but hard hitting mage," "fast but weak mage," "fast but weak/mid hitting physical," "slow but Superman strength." It's fucking boring.People want units to feel distinct even after they scrimblogoon the hell out of them and Engage is just not the game for that.
>>744243719https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=An7ZD-s6aHY
>>744232737>Are you seeing all the stupid time wasting nodes on the screen?That's called gameplay, anon. It's what you do before you mark the game off your backlog
>>744240219>just gameplayjust javcavs more like
>>744240219The gameplay:>paladin with a javelinwew lad
>>744245137you've described every fire emblem, the only difference here you have some influence on how they end up. if that really bothers you so much dont class change or forge. I do not see how thats a problem at all
>>744245076Would you, as a shota, let Ultand teach you about the female body?
>>744243991dont repost that, my drawing isnt good enough
Marriage with Marianne!
>>744245360Give it some lineart, then. I wanna color it.
>>744245407ive layed off drawing lewds, ill do a doodle here and there but I have no plans to finish that.
>>744245236>>744245262this gameplay more to your liking instead?
>>744245275>just don't enjoy 90% of the game's content if it bothers youWow, you've cracked the code. Great job. anon. No, I think I will continue to use the available game resource and simply criticize the game's design for allowing me to do it. Engage is uniquely bad about this. You shouldn't have open reclassing AND broken forging AND weapon effects that add +30 hit/+20 crit AND a global skill pool AND equippable pre-made builds, it's a toxic mix.
>>744245307Would mating press her on the spot!
>>744244497What does a traversable map do for gameplay that a menu doesnt?
>>744245436Fuck.
>>744245236>>744245262If javcav rapes gba fe why do you guys get dumpstered and cheat in every 7 and 8 relay?
>>744245505>EarringOn Lute? Cringe
every engage argument on this site is just a rehash of the last 5 previous ones
>>744245262Hero with Handaxe is the meta.>>744245479>Can only have one user.>Some cooldown after it goes off.>If you dont have food skill from Celica you have to be near an emblem refill.Not as busted I'm afraid.
The Somniel and My Castle are exactly the same.
>>744245480>just don't enjoy 90% of the game's content if it bothers youyou're being incredibly disingenuous class changing is not 90% of the games content
>>744245485immersiondon't >muh immersion mewhen people complain about samey ui(see dd1 vs ddogma 2) they are recognizing the importance of immersive elements even if they are less efficientThe less friction between you and the game world, the better
>>744245590SHe already wears an excessive amount of jewelry.Her tits are rapidly expanding to each be bigger than her head. She can have a little blue ear gem as a treat.
>muh immersionvideo games arent real idiot
>>744245618my castle is also the same thing
>>744245669>he doesnt have a going into games machineoh nononono
>>744245626So are you just going to ignore 4 other things I mentioned in the post you replied to? What else is left to do in Engage if you>don't change class>don't forge weapons>don't engrave weapons>don't inherit skills>don't equip emblemsBecause doing those 5 things - just those 5 - is guaranteed to make your scrimblo of choice into 1 of 4 varieties of juggernaut unless you're moderately brain damaged.
Path of Radiences base menu was the beginning of the end
>>744245634The immersion benefits are extremely minor for fe and really aren't worth it
>>744231825Gimmie your esoteric take on vtubers. I'm down.
>>744245720how is this any different from any other game where you feed kills to one unit or give them stat boosters they just end up a strong unit >What else is left to do in Engage if youI didnt say dont so all of them, but if class changing bothers you so much just dont do it
bonded shieldengage has/doesn't have unit identityengage has/doesn't have class balancethe well is le good/le badwarp skipping is le good/le badthere got it all of our system now, let's talk about something else
>>744245796It's different because Engage lets me put everybody in Warrior and Mage Knight, the two best classest in Engage for boss killing and enemy phasing, respectively. I can resource dump Mozu or Rebecca and they're still a shitter archer at the end of the day. In Mozu's case, there's some flexibility thanks to reclassing, but I can't throw the kitchen sink at her to make her into a fundamentally different, fundamentally good unit. She's always going to do the "player phase nuke" gimmick pretty well and be kinda shitty at everything else.Engage has no Mozus. Everyone is eventually a Xander or a Camilla.
>>744245743only because the Monastery is so low rentit's just people standing wherever, waiting to drop a paragraphthe concept is good, units react to story events unlike fateswakening where outside of the chapters themselves they had nothingpresentation and implementation were shoddyEven something like rune factory goa does a much better job by giving units schedules, places they like to be, and the ability to automatically move around
>>744245842no I wanna talk about engage
>>744245862>mozu is bad meme
>>744245906She's a limited kind of unit. Engage has no concept of limits. That's the difference that I have to assume you're choosing not to understand at this point.
Fuck Engage and fuck Fates.What is your favorite map BGM that we've heard so far from FW?For me it's thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77B8myAudKU
Could you beat fire emblem engage with two athos and one alear?
>>744245862so nooooooooooooow we like bad units
>>744245942who cares
>>744231725Treating an overworld map like it's meaningfully similar to a traversable open world is just retarded. The only similarity the two share are their scales, at best.
>>744245942Kill yourself
What's the point of making routes if we can't have a "kill everyone" route?
>>744245942Why'd they put the ching chong track for the mole people? no more dubstep?
>>744245954Why couldn't you
>>744245941>She's a limited kind of unit.not really
>>744245973Yes, as long as they bring unique flavor and can be made functional without excessive effort. I don't have a problem with Marty or Nyx. I have a problem with GBA unit design as well as Engage unit design for a different reason.
>>744246043Make Mozu into a EP-heavy Dark Knight and see how trash she is is at it compared to almost any other choice, even Peri. You can force it to a degree but you'll feel like an idiot.
>>744245842Blame intern-kun. Threads are entropically returning to their default state.
>>744245862besides fire supports, there is no way to modify rebeccas stats so shes a whole different thing than mozu
>>744231725Their dog shit systems are now strong enough enough to make Open World games. Their cultish fanbase who only plays Nintenslop are being exposed to open world games for the first time.It's that simple.
>>744246008The music is probably not related to the mole people.
>>744232535>>744231725>now/v/ has been shitting on ubislop for nearly two decades
>>744246171anon, your breath of the wild?
>>744246171>nowtheyve been strong enough, xenoblade was on the wii
>>744241996Hold the fuck up is that bitch's hair CUT OFF and reattached to a fucking accessory? Holy shit that is disgusting
>>744245874I just struggle to see how it helps the strategy gameplay. I can see the story benefits from a mile away but the monastery absolutely starts to overstay it's welcome even in it's anemic implementation.
>>744245942shill
>>744245842Kaga can't write for shit.
>>744246245No. It's braided around the base of the ring.
>>744246245how is that disgusting?
>>744246141Dude is probably dead you bozzo.
>>744246075>Dark Knightwhy dark knight?
I think the whole world will be mapped out for gameplay. So when it zooms in for a battle it's not just a generic map but actually reflect the world map. So you traverse the world by battling through it (which plays into the calendar system this time, since days seem to be measured by turns, where 4 turns equals a day)Seems a lot more interesting than three houses systems
>>744246430It's the best general-purpose magic combat class in Conquest along with Malig Knight. But there are no male Wyvern Riders and it's a little harder to make physically inclined units into mages with just the Wyvern line anyway.
>>744246508no male Wyvern Riders that can pass it to Mozu*
I guess I can see why engage was censored some people really do mald about that kinda shit, not that it really matter in the end since no one liked engage anyway and they probably alienated the few waifu fags that would have liked it
>>744246545>alienate waifufags>make every character gay>nobody liked itIS is either learning from that hard right now and giving us a ton of waifus that want marriage, or they're about to fuck this up really hard.
>>744246545Engage's localization was just too bold. Content aside it isnt 1997 anymore, They just molested the dev's intent. It's honestly less disredpectful to just rip out entire segments as opposed to building your own apocrypha over someone's game
>>744246545>and they probably alienated the few waifu fags that would have liked itBut Engage has the best girls. They only want (you).Just look at FW with non virgins, Ojisans, etc.What it filtered was the paired end cucks.Also probably the reviews saying Engage lacked social features will make IS feature creep FW.
>>744246773in the dub a bunch of the s supports are plutonic
>>744245407cumming all over those...
It's time FE fags admit they their modern games are fucking terrible man
>>744246506>travel too far>can't make it back in time for the tournament>game overwould be kino
>>744246820That was the lolcalization.Though its funny how much Seethe the Anna romance caused.Even site like loverlabs which has naker Anna models censored the patch.>>744246858They are fun.I bet I will enjoy FW for the novelty and in general but like Houses probably won't revisit it again after I do all routes.
>>744246858engage was great, 3h was good, sov was bad, fates was great, awakening as really good.
>>744246820>plutonicI wasn't aware they added Nuclear to the magic triangle.
Cutesythea
>>744246950>That was the lolcalization.thats what i was talking about
>>744246950>>744247164How drastic are the changes?
>>744247202they get rid of a lot of mentions of like anything to do with traditional feminine thinks, which is what I was referring to here >>744246545I never really understood it but seeing people mad at fw girls for liking romance and caring for others I can see the intent
>>744246858The only modern one I disliked was a remake of an old FE
>>744231725
>>744247202Women get de-feminized, and romances with anyone under 18 are removed. Though some other romances are also just dulled into friendship, too. Doesn't help that Engage already had bad writing.Evil Veyle's voice is sex, though.
>>744247275I mainly meant in the S supports. Like does Anna go from saying "I want you to be my husband!" To "I want you to be my best friend!" Or is it an entire rewrite.
>>744247373could've gone the other way around
Are the spanish/french/whatever localizations built off of the english script?I would actually chud out if they made alterations like that to fw
>>744247202Off the top of my head:>Goldmary received a lot of changes like she and Etie feeling each other chest/abs turned into their hands, her doing laundry to get men's attention to just laundry for the sake of it, Lucina in the original says she is envious of her big chest change to her figure, she worried she got fat changed to having a funny face, etc.>Louis is basically a yuri fetishist so changed to enjoying people interacting.>Almost every Alear S support was turned into friendship. While it's seemingly almost anyone seen as underage, you also had say Zelestia not saying "I love you" in the end which is weird because she is old and Alear young or more notoriously Anna and Alear becoming merchant partners instead of them saying they love each other but will wait until Anna is older to become lovers.>A few of Camilla bond rings too.
>>744247415you can look it up, but I think annas frames it as a business partnership
>>744231725It takes a special kind of retard to claim that open worlds and "world maps" are the same thing. Goddamn you are a retarded nigger. Mario's had them since smb3, and fire emblem first used a world map in gaiden (also an nes game).
>>744247559SM64 is an open-world game.
>>744246203"World maps" are not ubisoft open worlds you dumb faggot. Op is referring to shit like the smw level select here
>>744246974kek
>>744247559notice how gaden is the worst fe game
>>744247470Pretty sure they are based on the english script from my experience in English/Spanish/Patch.Houses had something curious where they used first person dialogue for Byleth over third person (Like quests description was "I was asked" in Spanish while in English is "You were asked").Engage got lucky it was on Switch. FW will be at the mercy of Troonhouse.
>>744247605If if that were true (it's not), that doesn't change the fact that op is a retard for claiming that world maps are somehow a new obsession for nintendo
>>744243798>musou spinoff
>>744247649>(it's not)(it is)
>>744231725MKW open world is good.
>>744247670It takes an especially gay person to harp on the the one point of an arguement that is specifically spelled out as irrelevant to the discussion
SEX WITH BROWN GIRLS
>>744247470French supports are based on the NoA raped script.
>>744247612My only hope is since fodlan is a storyfag series they wont be as invasiveNoA has always been censorious, i wouldn't expect something like lolianna to ever make it past the goalie. But character alterations are beyond the expectations of their office, they have not shown themselves capable of writing anything better. Killing romances with 17yos is also pure hr lady meddling that has never produced any good arti also cant learn moonrunes in 50 days
>>744247705shitting on gaiden is alway relevant, but anyway I think ops point is more so that modern Nintendo games are bloated which is true, not just the map.
>splatoon raidersNot only are you retarded for claiming the level select map wastes any time at all, the game literally has a secondary menu where you can find all the levels in list form. You do not play video games
>>744247720t. white man
>>744247720>FE turning /v/ into conquistadors
>>744247809No, OP literally says that the only problem is that they waste time and nintendo forgot how to make menus. He's saying there's literally a problem with map level selects over menus levels selects
>>744247705gaiden enjoyers dont deserve to be taken seriously about literally anything
>>744247809Genealogy of the holy war wastes far more of the players time with their bloated ass maps than gaiden ever did, but kagafags aren't ready for that discussion yet
>>744247910But they are winning.FW is being helmed by the guy and now we have dungeons.
>>744247917imo geneology and gaiden are the 2 bad fe games 3 if you wanna count echoes
>>744247959>not fatesOpinion discarded.
>>744231725I will gladly take an fe game with a world map over the Godawful calender system in three houses
>>744248038Why not both?
>>744247867literally made for shotas
>>744248038it has both :)
>>744248038Bro you missed we have deadlines back.It's called turns now so we will see how it works.
>>744248054If they bring back the calender system I will kill myself. I haven't actually been paying that much attention to FW previews because fe threads are miserable. How much three houses shit do we know is carrying over? God I hope there's no education system where you just turn everyone into the same unit again
>>744248109>God I hope there's no education systemhahahahahahahaha
>>744248038you get both because of 'people' like this >>744247969enjoy your raped franchise
>>744248076>>744248095Fuck. Here's to hoping time management isn't just more tedious bullshit.
>>744248109>How much three houses shit do we know is carrying over?basically everything, even the promotion exams despite there being no school
>>744248132Nigger I hated fates too. Am I not allowed to dislike the gameplay of three houses and the godawful story of fates? Also, the weapon system was trash in fates, I didn't like that either
>>744248109>If they bring back the calender system I will kill myself.>If
>>744247529I wanted to s support framme but if it's going to friendzone me I guess I'll settle for Ivy or something.
>>744248109Kind of confirmed >Calendar in the form of turns.>Skirmishes to farm resources.>You still build proficiencies.>Has a Hopes style proficiency build.>Classes can use several weapons (Like we have seen 3 different mage units with weapons/Weapon skills.>Class change will still be based on chance as we see Theodora class change to Wyvern say "Success".>Every unit has their own limited uses magic list.>Battalions somewhat (Only Theodora and the enemy zombies with them).>Crest effects.
>>744248128>>744248153Fml. I'll still get the game and probably enjoy it, but goddamn I was hoping the devs would realize that the only thing people actually like in three houses was the world building.
>>744231725rhythm heaven literally just came out lmao
>>744248245Sorry, they just scrapped everything good about Engage and made 3H2. Hope you rike!
>>744248197well you're getting exactly what your Compatriots asked for
>>744248068>sail to dagda>find the perfect woman for your son>drag her home by her braid
Very normal playthrough with no favoritism or stat booster dumping or grinding done whatsoever
>>744248245A few reviews complained Engage didn't have as many social elements/activities plus Hopes didn't do so good despite being more of the things 3H fans wanted (Lore and characters).It's the feedback they got.
>>744248273Deep down I always knew this would be the case because game devs are incapable of reading between the lines on shit like this. Damn I'm still dissapointed though
>>744248197>Nigger I hated fates too.i'm aware idiot
>>744248346Retard I'm the the first anon you responded to in that message
>>7442483183 Hopes fucking butchered the characters though
>>744248398They were supposed to be so it remarks how important Byleth is to their growth.
>>744248318>s Hopes didn't do so good despite being more of the things 3H fans wanted (Lore and characters).Hopes was a game in another fucking genre. I like 3H story and lore and I never touched it.
>>744248467Seriously doubt the gameplay had anything to do with 3H popularity.It's like how people don't play Persona for the dungeon crawling.
>>744248464You're giving the IS writers way too much credit. If that were true they would have made it more clear how fucked up they are in each route instead of trying to portray each path as a heroic one. It's like they took the worst aspects of crimson flower and made a whole game about it
Retarded nigger gamers and their MUH HOURS OF GAMEPLAY PER DOLLAR did this. Gamegroids don't care if a game is good, all that matters is how long it sustains the addiction. The best games of all time cost MORE adjusted for inflation than today's games and can be beaten in less than 10 hours. Steamies cry and refund a game if it dares to respect their time, so game devs bloatmaxx the fuck out of everything which results in putrid modern game design.Let me be blunt; no game worth playing at all takes more than 20 hours to complete at the absolute maximum.
>>744248398>>744248464Isn't Claude the only one who was really changed
>>744231725Stil not wasting my money on this garbage, this could’ve been a different game.
>>744248512>Seriously doubt the gameplay had anything to do with 3H popularityYet people who played 3H didn't play 3 Hopes. If all they cared was seeing their favorites, the vast majority of 3H players would also have bought 3 Hopes.It did not nor will it ever work that way.
>>744248562You played Lions already in Houses?I remember Dimitri saying there is value to tradition while in Hopes he sees it as a nuisance.>>744248604>Yet people who played 3H didn't play 3 Hopes.Well Hopes lacked the social elements hence FW seems like its going all in on it.
Feels good hating all FE games except the one I like
>>744237748Don’t you fuckers have any kind of responsibilities rather than wasting your lives on this website 24/7?
>>744248689Fates is the only one I will TRULY ever shit on. I do think geneology is overrated, and there are aspects of three houses I really didn't like, but overall I still really enjoy both games.
>>744248689>not hating all of themNot a true fan
>>744248689>Feels good hating all FE games except the one I like
>>744248689The average FE fan only likes 1-3 games in the franchise and suits on everything else.
>>744248732>i hate fates story and stupid writing soooo much but id never EVER learn how to actually spell the name of the game i enjoy
>>744248842Nigga I'm a shit tier writer give me a break. I misspell genealogy almost every time I type it out of bad habit. :(
emptying my balls inside Esmeralda
What if Nintendo Today keeps on chugging along and surpasses the JP account? How far behind is the account anyway, should catch up this week.
>>744248676In Houses he mentions he wishes he can be king already but can't so I'd say that's him not liking tradition. And a minor ideological difference like that isn't too different. Not like Claude wanting Rhea dead. Though in VW he does mention her dying would force a societal change by letting people of differing beliefs express themselves. Which I find retarded considering Rhea allows Shamir to be a knight of seiros despite not believing in the goddess
Don't forget to give energy drops to your memedon.
>>744248898Cyril says too he wasn't forced to believe in the dogma when he tries to prat for Jeralt.
>>744248896They're not stopping right now. But as further whether they're allowed to surpass the Twitter account, who knows.
>>744242552Claude's route is trying to split the difference between the two traditional Ally Unit colors in FE, yellow and green (gold and verdant)
>>744231725normalfags love quantity over quality
I wish we had a visual for Alucard's sister
>>744248896If they had posted a new character today on JP it would have caught up Friday morning I think. In a few hours we'll get Lysander I think and then Thursday morning we'll get LilianAnd then Thursday afternoon would be when we'd get another update in JP.Who fucking knows though. Things will get interesting by the weekend
>>744249018Maybe they are hiding her because it will be a spoiler.
>>744248998Funny cause in this game your army are the blue units, primary enemies are red, third faction enemies are yellow, and allies are green
>>744249185It's because she looks like Mercedes.
>>744231725The children yearn for blandness
>>744231725world maps ARE menus
>>744248689conquestbro...
Another win for Engage.
>>744231725>splatoon raiders stopped reading there
>>744231725>Games, nintendo specifically, are becoming obsessed with big ass, time wasting maps and open worlds. What caused this new form of developer autism in games? Did they forget how to make menus?Are you 15 or something? Nintendo are doing it because all they can actually do is chase trends, they see every Western game having a big open-world map so they do the same. As for why Western devs do it, blame the massive success of games like GTA in the early/mid 00s and later, Bethesda's games, especially Skyrim.
>>744231725>Did they forget how to make menus?No one wants your zoomer ass menus.
>>744231725So this is your strategy for hiding the FE thread on /v/ now, huh?
>>744231725I don't understand the hat from /v/ about open worlds. A lot of them are fun to play around in and have lots of content.
Was the earthquake near IS headquarters.
>>744240546oh shit I've been there
>>744241996kill all
why is this game so ugly
>>744245942https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMwMjJ-mj7g
You are laughing. Intern-kun died because of the earthquake and you are laughing.
>>744246773this>>744248109god, please make it happen
>>744256183nobody is laughing or making stupid jokes except impatient retards like you who have to beg for updates on an hourly basis.You are genuenly a subhuman.
>>744253696okay zoomer
>>744256183>intern-kunFWigger
>>744256270I AM laughing and making stupid jokes. You are lying to yourself if you pretend you actually care about the life of a faceless person who you know nothing about. Stop being a fake moral faggot and start being honest with yourself, nobody here will shame you for it.
>>744231725>what caused this autismnintendo being 10 years late to every trend. Now they are catching up with big ubislop open worlds, next they are gonna have photo realistic graphics
>>744256442>You are lying to yourself if you pretend you actually care about the life of a faceless person who you know nothing about.No, the rest of us have this built in concept called "empathy". Stupid fucking psycho.
>>744245236>>744245262>muh javcavShut the fuck up.
>>744256504Well since you have so much empathy you will surely want to help them right? Go on, donate, here's a link to a charity https://aarjapan.gr.jp/en/where-we-work/japan/ . Since you are such an empath you will donate right? Or is your empathy only useful for being a retard online and not for actually helping the people you feel bad about?
*SIPPP*>it doesn't need to be white>it doesn't need to be good character design>it doesn't need to be good map design>it doesn't need to be good gameplay>it doesn't need new animations>it doesn't need colors>it doesn't matter if it costs 80$>it doesn't matter if it has a calendar system>it doesn't matter if it has a dungeon system>it doesn't matter if it reuses characters>it doesn't matter if it has loreslopWE ARE NOW HERE>it doesn't matter if it has ntr
>>744256807
>>744256738I would donate if I had money but I am a poorfag. yes, I am not buying FW for the same reason.
DIVINE DRAGON-SAMA, I KNEEL
>>744256807>>it doesn't need to be whitecorrect and no amount of crying is gonna make me change my mind
>>744257075why are you using my hort wife to shitpost?
>>744256853>already resorting to excuse givingLMAOOOO you really think anyone here believes you don't have 20 spare dollars to donate??? What a faggot you really are embarrassing all your moral and empathy superiority amounts to nothing since you won't even spare pocket change to help those you feel sooo bad about lmao. I'll keep`making fun of internkun's death and you can stick up your moral supriority up your ass.
>>744245685GRIFFITH!>>744245720In engage you would still have the entirety of every map to beat if you didn’t do those things.
>>744257201>you really think anyone here believes you don't have 20 spare dollars to donate?what's so unbelievable? No I don't have that money.If that is shocking to you I assume you must be absolutely loaded. The one who should be donating is you but since you are a subhuman who lacks empathy you won't try and help anyone.
You know someone is absolutely seething during an argument when they attach some smug reaction image to their post, lmao
>>744257118You have no love in your heart, Hortensia is my wife.
Giving my energy to intern-kun and putting a curse on update faggots.
>>744257293brother don't let that cortisol demon ragebait you just find joy in knowing his home board /a/ is dying and irrelevant so he has to haunt other boards as a refugee
>>744257407stfu fogado, princess hortensia is not marrying you
>>744245842Like what? Twitter posts and when to expect them?
>he stopped using a reaction image when it was pointed outlol this dude is hilarious
>>744257293 In any part of the world minimum wage is way above 20 dollars. Well I guess unless you are from india or africa, in which case I don't consider you human so I'll stop messaging you.
>>744257520minimum wage in the us is like 7$
>>7442575317 dollars PER hour retard kun...
>>744257520weird how you felt offended when I said you lacked empathy when you very clearly do.Must be a sociopathic trait.
>>744240219Like half those are in the best GBA FE you stupid fucking retard.
>>744257608The only thing that has offended me so far is that you think anyone here will believe you when you say you can't donate because 20 dollars is soooo much money.
>>744257458>stfu fogado,their support is cutei need more happy reaction images
>>744257729>if I can ask my mommy for 20 bucks, why can't you do it??lol
>>744257729Poor people offend you?Elon? Is that you?
I have a lot of money and do not care about these stupid twitter posts or the retarded autists here who have made it their personal life to beg for tweets and discuss them for a game that’s releasing less than 2 months. You know nobody fucking cares and 100% of the game will be revealed when it releases? Your shitty guesses and memes are an eye sore.
>>744243798Claude was always a scheming piece of shit. He just didn't have Byleth to keep him from going full retard.
>>744245137>In Engage, after a full scrimblo sesh, there are approximately 3-5 different types of units, broadly speaking. "Slow but hard hitting mage," "fast but weak mage," "fast but weak/mid hitting physical," "slow but Superman strength."How is that any different from Conquest?
>>744257881speaking that broadly describes pretty much any tactics game ever.
>>744257881Unless people are actively posting their juggernaut stomps like they have done with Corrin, Camilla, or Xander, and even shitters like Nyx and Velouria, Conquest fags like to pretend their game is unique.
>>744257779>>744257795even the shitiest job on earth like mcdonalds will pay you 2k a month. And even in a shithole like india the pay would be like 200 dollars, way above the minimum donation mark. If you all feel soooo bad about the earthquake why aren't you getting a job and donating some of your money to charities? But no you will moralfag on here and feel good about you despìte the fact that you are being just as unhelpful to those people as "a literal psychopath" like me lmao.
>>744258021I think people just find you to be an anointing retard. >intern-kuun!!!! intern-sama!!!! gomen demo xitter post!!! ultand’s sand gecko how many rings??????
>>744258103>moving the goalpost
>>744257881NO YOU CANT SAY THAT
id rather we talk about hot engage girls...
>>744238328Wind Waker had that too, but anyone who played anywhere near to to 100 percenting that game woulf have already been sick of that style of having to fucking travel and do menial shit endlessly. Nintendo is now basically doing an 'open-world' gimmick for each series to get it done while the timing is still ripe (marks were heavily swept away by the BotW idea), then they will probably move on to something else. When that happens, remember: OP IS THE SAME KIND OF PERSON THAT WILL POST A SIDE-BY-SIDE COMPARISON WHEN A SEQUEL HAS A SMALLER WORLD MAP AND CRY ENDLESSLY ABOUT IT
>>744258112I didn’t move the goalpost this was my first post about subhuman retards like yourself: >>744257838
>>744258021>will pay you 2k a monthafter rent and bills you probably barely have enough money for food
>>744257881Mostly just Conquest units have class sets so not everyone can do anything you want them to. Emblem Rings being over half of a unit's power also devalues a unit's own contribution.
>>744258197I make $4k a month and spend $1.5k on Uber eats
>>744231725>hundred line academy???????????????????
>>744258245everyone still falls into 3-5 different types of units thats boring right?
>>744258262you sound obese
>>744258197>Literally 1% of your monthly income>it's just TOO MUCH money!!!Genuinely you will feel so much better once you stop trying to justify your behaviour. Just be honest with yourself and admit you really don't care that much about the victims of an earthquake on the other side of the planet.
>>7442583763-5? I think you can go further than that, there are only two types of units in Fire Emblem, those who can fight on enemy phase reliably and those who cannot.
>>744258367OP is a retarded FE-only who made a stealth general. He said hundred line because hundred line has a map mini game like the one fortune’s weave has in the OP image, even though it’s not open world and FE fags are retards.
>>744258103>intern-kuun!!!! intern-sama!!!! gomen demo xitter post!!! ultand’s sand gecko how many rings??????This, but unironically.
>>744258447Those who LIVE and those who DIE is the ultimate simplification
>>744258406I more so dont trust charities
>>744258710So now you moved on to ANOTHER excuse. First it was "I dont have money" and now its " I don't trust charities". Again be honest. You don't actually care enough about these victims.
>>744258460>>744258367Calling it "open world" is stupid. But the comparison is accurate.The skirmish map thing from FW will literally just be the exploration mode from The Hundred Line.>tiles with resources>blocked paths>checkpoints>encounter tiles
>>744243880CeciliaUltandMicaiah
>>744258945You do realize multiple people are arguing with you and those people are using different arguments, right?No honestly you're too retarded for that.We honestly need post IDs so I can stop seeing stupid posts like yours.
>>744258953FWiggers, WE WON
>>744231725They looked at assasins creed and told themselves "this what we need for next 20 years, kids gotta love it! " and nin-toddlers bought it at mass so now every single tendo game will need to have pointless lifeless open world section or even entire map built around it like Mario Kart. Nintendo now is the new Ubisoft. Botw truly ruined Tendo like Wow ruined Blizzard.
>>744258945for me its both, what little money I have left over I dont wanna waste on a chance it doesnt even get to where it needs to, id buy a homless dude some food
I goon to trannies basically daily and im tired of pretending otherwise
>>744259303Based 3HGOD
>>744259303BASED 3HRT
>>744259142>WHY NINTENDO MAKE SAME KIND OF GAME OVER AND OV->WHAT THE FREAKING FRECK!? WHY THEY TRY SOMETHING HECKING NEW!? THEY CAN'T JUST DO THAT! NO DON'T MENTION THEY HAVE DONE THINGS LIKE THIS SINCE THE ORIGINAL ZELDA AND HAVE MADE COUNTLESS COLLECTATHON GAMES BEFORE! THAT DOESN'T COUNT!
>>744256183>SAAR?!? WHERE THE UPDATE SAAAR??? BLOODY BASTARD GIVE ME UPDATE ON MY WEEB SERIES SAAR. I DON'T CARE THAT THAT THE EARTHQUAKE KILLED YOUR PARENTS I WANT MY UPDATE SAAR
>>744231725not a problem in nortubel
Intern-kun fucking died...
>>744259164Why are you poor?
>>744259164>feeding the homeless Evil act, worse than giving to BLM or child transition funds
>>744246692They didn't fuck up the dev's intent. They localised it, learn the fucking difference. These sorts of things are discussed with developers, especially, but not only, with Nintendo games. I disagree with a handful of the changes, but I do still see why they were made.
i never cared for cutesexyrobutts art style
>>744257881I already explained it. I seriously have to assume anyone not getting it didn't read the reply chain or just aren't even trying to understand what makes Engage different.Everything is too open, global, free, and powerful in Engage.The solution to fixing hit rates is always the same for everyone and it's right there, for nothing. It's the Lyn engraving or the Lucina engraving.The solution for slow units is always the same. It's the Lyn ring.The solution for omni-tanking is always the same. It's Bonded Shield.The solution for fighting effectively on enemy phase is always the same. It's Mage Knight, or Ivy's special class. Sage if you want to pretend it's better than MK or is meaningfully distinct from it.You really do not get this on Conquest or most games. We know you can juggernaut with almost any unit. But you don't get these incredibly samey global solutions to everything, because unit building is locked behind an economy of support options. Heartseeker is the best +hit skill in Fates and it has a range conditional attached to it and can't be obtained by everyone effortlessly.
>>744260583I was born in india
>>744261296I feel like you're just being incredibly reductive, like this one>The solution for slow units is always the same. It's the Lyn ring.sure but all the others theres multiple things you can do>it and can't be obtained by everyone effortlessly.it can with online
Why does that guy pretend like conquest is meaningfully different from the other games when in his walls of text he admits it can be broken every time?If the game can be broken, in many ways, by many units, then it is not different from the other games that are like that, since everyone knows how to break it and the argument of “just don’t use that” is something that isn’t legitimate.
>>744259063it's no wonder Roy is such a mediocre unit, i wouldn't learn much with a teacher that hot either.
>>744261614>theres multiple things you can doYeah, but there's far and away a *winner* and it's freely available to everybody.If you want to make someone a Wyvern in Engage (not even that great a class really but besides the point), you just do it.Units fight over Wyvern access in Fates. Famously, Leo is hurt by not having quick access to the class with a synergistic support partner. He has to get it from Beruka, who gives him no speed. You can change her into a Berserker for a ghetto hot-fix, but this wastes a heart seal and also gives him nothing else useful like +movement in the meantime.Leo is also different from Odin, who has the Samurai line and can do the Vantage meme along with his daughter. Leo can do this too, but it takes him longer to get set up with it. On the other hand, Leo has pretty good bases and superior growths, so he's the low-effort option.I just don't see this type of dynamic in Engage. You can be reductive here too and say "it's all just a juggernaut in the end," but it's not the exact same fucking juggernaut over and over again. It's different enough that it feels distinct, rather than quibbling over the tiny stat difference between Lapis vs. PhysChloe and Anna vs. Jean.>it can with cheatingI'm not taking this point seriously as you can see.
>>744261739Why do you pretend not to understand what the argument is every time like a braindead zombie? I'm being especially reductive with Engage because the game lends itself to reduction.If you don't want me to talk about the same build every time, don't make 12 literal pre-made builds that it's difficult to deviate from.
>>744259624Yeah they totally done empty huge open worlds before botw lmao you toddlers are totally delusional and think you invented every gaming genre but you are nothing but thieves that make poor man's imitation
>>744262092And I’m being especially reductive with conquest because the game itself is reductive. Just use your royals in their base classes and there’s no difficulty ;)
>>744261992in the end you still end up with strong fast unit, strong slow unit, ect. ect.>it can with cheatingits literally a game mechanic, how is it cheating? >>744262092>don't make 12 literal pre-made builds that it's difficult to deviate from.but enough about conquest
>>744262186Okay. Now beat Ch. 25 with no planned reclass pathing and just royals, sissy. You can do it right? You're not just all talk?
>>744262186its crazy how true this is the fox forest was pretty hard until I just decided to solo it with xander and corrin as his backpack
>>744262237Name the 12 pre-made builds in Conquest, then. I'm continuing to ignore your point about buying hacked skills online, which isn't even available anymore btw.
>>744262281Sure. Corrin is designed to beat Ryoma. His 20/20 in Nohr Noble wins.
I'll stop bullying Engage when you point to a single other game in the series where every character can get +40 hit rate and Canto for the same cost. Until then, accept your rape.
>>744262362Larping retard. We lost a run to Ryoma with a souped up Corrin with Samurai skills in the relay, so this is obviously just completely false. If you do nothing at all with Corrin and just leave him on default settings, Ryoma is almost impossible to beat.You don't know this of course because you don't play the games you critique. I've played Conquest and Engage plenty, so I know the difference.
i don't think i will be purchasing a switch 2 just for fortune's weave.
>>744262287Yeah, eventually you realize it’s more effort to bother keeping the shitters alive and end up low manning by default>>744262378>boomer skillsYou have like 8 dances, warps, rescues, rewarps, engraves, forges, etc for movement and hit
>>744262334you literally already named them
call me crazy but I dont think having more optional customization is bad, like being able to make a unit i look is cool imo
>>744262491Just name them if it's so easy. It's the Emblems in Engage. I haven't actually remembered if it's 12 of 14, but whatever the fuck, you get the idea.Why can't you name the 12 pre-made builds in Conquest?
>>744262457That person intentionally chose to attack on player phase and get the corrin killed when the corrin was in danger of that. “Someone” later took the save and killed Ryoma with Corrin by simply not doing that. Corrin has full convoy access as well to outheal Ryoma even if he gets unlucky with dragon fangs
>>744262593I'm kind of sick of talking about this with you already because you just claim things that are verifiably untrue when cornered. Corrin has very poor odds against Ryoma in 20/20 Nohr Noble. This isn't up for debate. Play the game.
>>744262552Every character in their intended class
>>744262672What? Effie breaks the game in General? Nyx breaks the game without any specific reclassing interventions? Mozu can solo Conquest as a Sniper? Camilla can solo Conquest as a Wyvern? What are you even babbling about?
Why are Fatesfags so unbelievably autistic?
>>744262656I have played the game and Corrin beats Ryoma. You just said as much in your post with “very poor odds” but you know, Ryoma doesn’t attack Corrin so those are only “poor” if you’re retarded and attack a parked car. They’re guaranteed if you aren’t.
>you're right and I can't point out how you're wrong, so I'm going to tone police you nowAnd thus, this argument concluded. You won't learn anything from it. You'll still cry next time I bring up Bonded Shield. Go treat your blown out asshole now.
>>744262912You're just wrong, frankly. Shut up, kid.
>>744262746Are you too stupid to beat the game without reclassing? You know the benchmarks and maps were all designed around those classes.
>Ryoma55 HP, 34 STR (51~ MT), 28 SKL, 36 SPD, 25 LUK, 23 DEF>20/20 +STR/-LUK Corn43 HP, 35 STR, 21 MAG, 27 SKL, 30 SPD, 15 LUK, 25 DEFCorn needs a Speed Tonic and Ryoma does have Rend Heaven and Astra. Corn can use the Dragonstone if they really want but without it and a Defense Tonic they're taking 12 damage or 30 an Astra while also facing a bit of crit, so there's probably a chance of death if you're exceedingly unlucky.
>>744262996That is not the argument. The argument is whether Engage has pre-made builds (it does). It does not. Emblems are fucking retarded. They take away all player satisfaction and creativity of building their own units and homogenize the cast in the extreme.It was a cool experiment but it needs to go and stay go.
>>744262969Not an argument and you said nothing because I was in fact right. Meanwhile you were crying about the “tone police” or some other snarky trash in response to someone else’s post. Base Corrin does beat Ryoma, unless you want to admit you are too stupid to know if you’d die in enemy phase.
>>744262918Oh, it's the Bonded Shield autismo. I should have known.
>>744263059>so there's probably a chance of death if you're exceedingly unluckyThat's putting it mildly. Why don't you run the odds on it and see how retarded you're being?
>but it needs to go and stay go.
>>744263070Engage has premade builds and so does conquest. The very best build in Engage is even shown in the title sequence!
>>744263132I did enough of your argument for you already.
nothing wrong with veyle
>>744263109Why does it bother you when I point out Engage has a freely availability godmode cheat in it? Is that not accurate?
>>744263132There are no odds of losing because you choose when to attack, are standing on healing tiles, and have convoy access.
I just love that you can get hardcore muh gameplayfags to admit to boss rigging if you shittalk Engage hard enough. It really exposes the fat-assed larp.
>>744251360>stopped reading right at the end
>>744263261He has to roll like 3 Astra crits or something.
>>744263368Is that supposed to be unlikely? He has Rend Heaven too. Soloing him without some kind of build (that you have to come up with) is like digging in a box of razors for a feather at the bottom.
>>744263368Right which is like a 1/500 chance and you can just hit retry if somehow you game over.
>>744263430Do you consider things that have a less than 1% chance of happening unlikely?
>boss rigging is cool nowHoly fuck. He outright said it. You're okay with the time crystal too, I take it?
>>744256807>it doesnt need colorsuh>it doesnt matter if it reuses charactersLike the three best games in the series? Fates engage and shadows?
I guess Corrin can’t beat Ryoma if you rig all the times he wins into losses! Fates is so hard guys!
>>744258103holy fucking trvkeintern kun/lechner/rings memes are so fucking reddit
>>744263562I want one of you niggers to actually try this and see how utterly ridiculous you're being. Not even for my benefit. Load up an archive save and use FETwiddler to make your 20/20 vanilla Nohr Noble build. See how much the lobster spreads you and feel stupid for ever taking on this line of argument.
The Corn will also have Draconic Hex, so there should be no chance of death after the first round of combat.
>>744263658I would beat this in less than 10 minutes by mashing A on player phase.
>>744263727>>744263676So do it. Back your retardation up.
>>744263785I’ve already done it. Back in 2015 even.
>>744263785Why would I do that? Playing C25 is more fun.
>>744263769
>>744263816>source: trust me brolol
>>744263837I would argue what makes 25 fun is the build variety you're incentivized to approach it with to make it manageable. If Conquest were like Engage, I'd buy Vantage and LaD and engrave a hand axe for +50 hit and just do it that way every time.
>>744263508NTA but yeah, it's a fine option for those who want it.
>>744263853Source: the stats
