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>Play on Legendary
>Forced to carry the plasma pistol on you at all times to disable enemy shields and either the magnum or sniper for headshots
>90% of the other weapons in the game are now completely useless, killing any potential experimentation
>Impossible to play aggressively in later levels without being killed in five seconds so you're forced to play the game like a tactical shooter at times
Are there any other examples where the highest difficulty setting ruins the game?
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who cares about normgroid golem slop
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souls games in general are just bad, though they don't have a difficulty setting
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>>744238531
I wouldn't consider the Souls games hard, more annoying if anything. Stuff like mimics or basilisks or any of the other esoteric shit in those games is just there to fuck with people who don't autistically read the wiki before playing.
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>>744238383
User error
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I remember playing cod4 on the max difficulty and it felt disgustingly unfair. I don't think I ever beat it, prob got stuck on that one ukraine mission where the enemies grenade spam you while you wait for extraction.
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>>744238531
Ah, so what you said is completely irrelevant to OP's question, nice.
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>>744238383
Your supposed to play it with a friend. You used to be able to play it while sitting in the same room.
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>>744238383
Gaylo sucks
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>>744238383
Just get good you fucking pussy faggot
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>>744238383
CE has amazing balance on legendary, you don't need a PP, just use nades well and keep moving. You NEVER need to play the game like a cover shooter, especially the later flood missions which are about running and gunning with the shotgun
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>>744238383
skill issue
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>>744238383
>Play on Legendary
>Forced to carry the plasma pistol on you at all times to disable enemy shields and either the magnum or sniper for headshots
>90% of the other weapons in the game are now completely useless, killing any potential experimentation
>My wife and her new boyfriend are starting to get hot and heavy and LOUD in the other room
>My wife’s daughter from her previous marriage wakes up crying because of all the noise
>Have to stop playing and tend to her dear, sweet, daughter
>Get a text from my wife’s bvll asking if her new bf is done yet and what’s for dinner
God, I just want to play already!!!!!
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>>744238383
Are you serious? CE is piss easy. If so don't play Halo 2.
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>>744238383
Halo 2 on legendary is a million times worse
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>>744238383
Shotgun, plasma pistol, sniper, and even the AR are perfectly usable on Legendary. Git gud.
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Real gaymers playing gaylo used the covenant carbine as their all arounder to kill everything that their level's cool gun(sniper, shotgun, RL) wouldn't or didnt want to waste its ammo on them. Magnum was just fodder shit and the pp was just unfun to use.
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>>744238383
Plasma pistol is a crutch for shitters you don't have to use it. I rarely use it because the combo gets boring and it quickly runs out of ammo.
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>>744238383
Legendary gives you twelve billion grenades from dead enemies so between those+any weapon besides a needler you're perfectly fine. I actually like the plasma rifle quite a bit even if the p-pistol is better. Even against the flood the plasma weapons work just fine.
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>>744240084
The Carbine wasn't in CE.
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>>744239993
>Shotgun
You mean the shotgun you only get to use in the last quarter of the game?
>AR
There is zero reason to carry the AR instead of the magnum or the sniper. The range and damage of the AR make it an objectively terrible weapon
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>>744240214
im talkin about real halo
nobody played that old shit
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>>744240227
AR is very fun and useful on legendary I carry it almost the entire run. Lots of reasons to use it if you aren't a speedtranny.
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>>744240245
CE the only Halo worth playing.
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>>744240227
The hitstun on it is incredibly useful against Grunts and Jackals and even on legendary if you full run at an Elite and hose them it will break their shields then you can kill them with its quick melee. It also deals bonus damage vs Flood forms and is the best tool for killing Infection forms, and just generally has a lot of ammo. If you play like a bitch from far away yeah the AR isn't very good but if you play aggressively it's not actually a bad weapon at all. It's pretty much the most efficient human weapon for getting rid of shields and combos very well with the magnum as a result, since the Magnum deals reduced damage to shields and ammo for it is a lot harder to come by.

As for shotgun, yeah, you get it late, but when you have it it's pretty damn good.
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>>744240227
How does 6/10 equal a quarter?
Sniper is also shit-tier vs flood making even the lackluster AR a better choice.
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>>744240339
CE Shotgun is a superweapon it rapes all I love it.
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>>744240214
You might be right, but the BR was and thats basically the same thing with a tighter ammo pool if you can land a dozen headshots on an eletie from out of their range you suck. But the level also probably gave you a shotgun or sniper so its really whatevs.
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>>744240347
You spend the vast majority of the game without the shotgun.

>Sniper is also shit-tier vs flood
The magnum isn't and is way better at putting flood forms down than the AR.
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>want to play halo 3 on pc
>check the mcc
>136 gb
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>>744240459
>the BR was in CE
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I PLAYED THE BRIDGE LEVEL IN L4D2 OVER AND OVER ON THE HARDEST DIFFICULTY. I ONLY USED DUAL PISTOLS THOUGH.
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>>744240469
If you're using steam you can select which games you want to install instead of installing the whole thing.
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The plasma pistol semi auto shots melt through almost everything in the game. The overcharged shot is worthless compared to how quickly the bolts shred everything. Everyone who says that plasma weapons have a weakness against health is a dirty fucking liar, there is 0 debuff, they just have an obscene 200% damage buff against sentinels and elite shields. It can kill an elite in the same number of shots as the standard pistol but with an added stun effect and faster ROF. The plasma pistol isn't a burden in the campaign, it exterminates everything and basically has infinite ammo.
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>>744240468
AR is second only to the shotgun vs the flood. Pistol works but it shoots slow and you'll constantly need to switch to clear the little shitter flood which matters on legendary because they actually do damage and prevent shield regen.
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>>744240406
2-shotting gold elites felt so good.
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>>744240827
The goated anti flood combo is shotgun + plasma rifle
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>>744240827
The AR is kinda shitty against flood, it has a damage reduction. Pistol is good if you can consistently aim at their weak spot. The Needler is also okay, the small needle pops(not supercombine) do a lot more damage vs Flood
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>>744240752
seen that, but halo 3 looks to be 50 gb and the mcc itself has a mandatory 40 gb?
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The AR is the shittiest weapon in every game.
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>>744240827
The AR has a 65% damage modifier against flood, the pistol does 150% damage. Plasma weapons have no debuff and do significantly more damage against the flood.
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>>744240954
Needler*
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>>744241092
It owns brutes. Meanwhile the AR barely owns grunts.
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>>744240982
>The AR has a 65% damage modifier against flood
Never noticed. They all die easily.
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>>744241092
It's actually not bad in 2 since you can dual wield them and unleash hails of crystals toward whatever you're looking at
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>>744238383
>>Impossible to play aggressively in later levels
Skill issue. It's actually much easier when aggressive. Literally every "infinite" flood spawn instantly stops the moment you push around the corner. Only the Library makes this impossible. The reduced weapon viability is a downside, but there will always be a few best weapons. It's not like you couldn't use anything other than the pistol/plasma pistol/shotgun if you really wanted to. Halo 2 and Reach are much more poorly balanced and much worse about their weapon sandbox.
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>>744241156
AR is good vs everything.
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>>744238383
>Are there any other examples where the highest difficulty setting ruins the game?
Most video games to be honest. Developers always design around normal, the further you drift from that the worse the experience.
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>>744238383
you just need 1 plasma gun or a shotgun
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You know someone is shit when they think the AR sucks.
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>>744241296
CE legendary was actually playtested a lot you can tell and it's insanely replayable. Best FPS campaign ever.
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>>744240935
Not sure about the mcc itself but halo 3 story is 8gb and halo 3 multiplayer is 9gb
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>>744241242
>It's actually much easier when aggressive
Maybe early game, but I just finished Assault on the Control Room and during the part where you go through the repeating rooms I got to one with four fucking red Elites inside.

The outdoor section on the bridge had another four red elites, jackals, grunts, and grunts on the bridge next to you sniping with needlers and plasma pistols. There is literally zero way to beat those sections by playing aggressively.
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>>744241645
"Later levels" means flood, and those are absolutely easy to play aggressive. They have less awareness, less coordination, less health, half of them don't have guns and can't aim, very vulnerable to grenades. Covenant is harder.
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>>744238383
>i can only kill things on legendary if i have a pistol
as much as i hate memespeak, legit sounds like a skill issue op
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>>744241645
That mission gives you snipers and rockets for a reason. Also a ton of frags, and actually endless plasmas. The four elite room can be solved easy with two sticks from plasma since they will usually panic and run into another Elite.
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>>744238383
>Forced to carry the plasma pistol
no you arent
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>>744238383
this remake is feminist dogshit
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>>744240785
This is true but also a M+KB issue. They never fixed it because rapid firing the plasma pistol is so annoying with the xbox pad triggers
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>>744242084
Yes you are. The magnum takes almost an entire mag to kill one red elite with perfect accuracy. If you're fighting more than one with just an AR or the magnum you're fucked. The sniper is better since it only takes one or two shots to down an elite, but it sucks at short range, ammo for it is limited, and you only have four shots before needing to reload.
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>>744240227
The correct weapon loadout for flood missions is the AR and the shotty briefly swapping to rockets etc. just to use the ammo to kill a lod of stuff to conserve the shotty ammo. The pistol is acceptable but lackcluster. You need the AR to effectively kill all the infection form blobs that fuck your shield regen up. Using shotgun ammo is wasteful and meleeing them is slow and tedious to do. Other guns do this job fun but they either cost too much ammo or cant pick up ammo. Plus the projectiles seem to hit several of them in a burst.
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>>744242371
You are a noob. Stripping shield of elites is easy for most weapons and thats not just assuming you use the pistol for that to begin with. You need to use the melee frequently in halo. the game doesnt reward you being a pussy until precision weapons like the BR appear in H2 onwards and even then they are just shield strippers for a melee in most close range scenarios.
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>>744242538
>The pistol is acceptable but lackcluster
This is just wrong man, don't talk so authoritatively when you clearly don't know shit. You can use the AR on flood levels and it isn't bad at all, but the pistol is so much better lol.
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>>744238383
Most games
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>>744239607
You are brown. The game is slow as fuck on legendary in single player and you will die instantly if you're using the shotgun against covenant. I've beat the game a dozen times on legendary
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>>744242938
The shotgun is broken is fuck in ce, which is why it's only the second half when the flood show up, because it shreds covenant too.
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>>744242783
Why take the pistol when you have the shotgun? For combat forms you are using the shotgun to blast them ideally several at a time. In CE you can do this at a good range. Thus the role of the pistol is taken by the shotty. Then you have the infection forms. The shit fire rate of the pistol and only hitting one most of the time means you not only waste ammo but you take ages to kill them. This is where the plasma weapons work better due to the rate of fire but are superseded as a perma carry by the AR as it doesnt overheat and can replenish ammo without a pickup. You can use the pistol all you want as its not bad but its objectively a gimp loadout vs the shotty and AR for the flood levels. You have no reason to use it beyond feeling attachment to it. It has no niche it fills better than other weapons at that point.
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>>744238519
Right, because we need 10x more gachaslop and ffxvi threads. Kill yourself
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>>744242938
>calls others brown
>lacks spatial awareness enough to use the shotty vs covies
Its crap for some situations vs them but its at worst a waste of ammo in others. Its the next best things to the pistol for killing Hunters and it shreds elites. It only becomes crap in H2 when its range gets nerfed into the ground.
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>>744239976
it really isnt. people who say omg halo 2 is so hard are bad at video games
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>>744243960
>some nigger on /v/ is contrarian for no reason
I am shocked. CE legendary is very well balanced and practically easy once you become familiar with the levels. 2 legendary is cancer even when you know what you are doing. There is no comparison.
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>>744242938
>You are brown
That's just how it is now, huh.
Bad at the game? Brown. Good at the game? Brown. Refuse to consoom? Brown and poor.
Fuck you.
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>>744238383
Plasma rifle and assault rifle are pretty good if you can aim, don't suck, prioritize properly, and take as much ground as you can as frequently as possible. Enemies do not recover health, only recharge shields. Shove Jackals and Elites for a good bump of damage.

Your bait thread sucks but I haven't replied to a bot lately.
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>>744243161
You can "headshot" combat forms with the pistol by shooting the infection form burrowed in their chest cavity.
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>>744243960
>people who say omg halo 2 is so hard
Jackal Snipers, flood and brutes say hi.
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>>744243161
This nigga knows CE. Shotgun/AR is the golden combo for flood.
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>>744238383
I played recently, and that's not really true, all the covenant weapons are helpful in one way or other against the covenant on legendary.
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>>744243960
Halo 2 Legendary genuinely just isn't very fun. There's way too many instant deaths and some of them are effectively dice rolls + knowledge check.
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>>744243960
Shut up retard. You haven't played Halo 2, let alone Halo 2 Legendary.
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>>744238383
>Play on Legendary
There's your issue. Very Hard difficulties are always imbalanced and unfun.
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>>744244970
Halo CE Legendary is far and away the most fun to play since it was properly tested and balanced, same can't be said about Halo 2 where one misplay will kill you.
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>>744238383
Call of Duty: World At War was absolute bullshit on highest difficulty. Enemies keep spawning infinitely until you pass their spawn point, so every time you come to a bottleneck you have no choice but to rush headlong into it repeatedly until you get lucky. I finished it and immediately regretted every minute wasted.
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>>744238383
I hate FO4 survival because you’re forced to play on the hardest difficulty. And Bethesda really don’t understand game balance
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>>744240227
The only good use case for the AR is against Flood infection forms. Their high ammo efficiency and rapid fire makes them extremely effective against them since they die in one hit anyway. Using any other weapon on them is a waste of ammo.
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>>744240935
mcc itself is 15gb (5gb on movies lmao), halo 3 is 9
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>>744245673
It's much better to circle around them to gather them in a tighter group and melee, each one pops with an AOE, popping all the other ones in a chain reaction.
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>>744243960
Truke halo 2 on legendary is easy the enemy ai is fucking braindead and easily gets headshotted
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>>744244528
>Jackal Snipers,
Shows up in only a few levels once you know their location they become a nothing burger
>flood
Shotgun or smg
>brutes
Carbine or BR ez

the only frustrating moment was regrets boss battle
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git gud noobies lawl
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>>744238383
Grenades, sniper, shotgun, rocket, launcher. All superior to plasma pistol+magnum.

Needler is about equal. Little worse maybe due to ammo but doesn't need 2 weapons to work.

Plasma rifle + assault rifle is worse. Still viable together, but worse.

That's all the weapons isn't it? Now admittedly snipers, shotguns and rocket launchers are much rarer, and plasma pistols are probably the most common weapon in the game. However plasma pistols alone suck. It needs the magnum (or the inferior assault rifle) to switch to.

Plasma is great for dealing damage shields, bad for dealing damage to their health. The human weapons are the opposite.

Its honestly really well balanced and will regularly have you using different weapons. Having some areas where grunts and jackals only used needlers instead of plasma pistols could have been a bit better and may have encouraged the use of the needler or plasma rifle over the pistol; but it was still handled pretty well. In contrast im Halo 2 and 3 you just use the battle rifle 90% of the time. Perhaps the AR should have had higher health damage at close range, and the plasma rifle could have had a lot more ammo to give them some more viability, but they were still perfectly usable as a combo, just inferior.
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>>744238383
Borderlands 2. It has an elemental proc called slag which makes enemies take bonus damage. In higher difficulty levels that element is mandatory to apply to enemies if you want any hopes of doing damage at all. Plus a great deal of things scale poorly, enemy vehicles will be brutal, certain skills fall way behind on damage, DoTs will make shield gating worthless... You get the idea. You can get crazy powerful, but everything else does too, and everything else doesn't need to know what gear and skills to grab to keep up, so you get diminishing fun unless you like the grind.
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>>744238383
>he can't damage tag to reduce incoming fire
>has to rely on the noob combo to get by on legendary
lol
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>>744241092
needler in 3 is a great niche weapon for taking down brutes
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>>744238383
Hardest difficulty mode in FPS games usually being retarded in some way or unbalanced goes all the way back to DOOM you casualization zoomoid
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>>744248783
My friend was really good at halo 2 and played with lot of competitive players on MLG teams and even he got filtered by a lot of levels on legendary when we tried to co op them during 2005 or so.


The very last part of delta halo is one I remember particularly well where you enter from the waterfall and you are in a big outdoor cave area and there are jackal snipers hidden everywhere in addition to drones. Many levels we gave up on after like an hour stuck somewhere and it was always jackals for the most part
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>>744238519
/thread
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>>744250230
Fuck UVHM. Biggest piece of shit that actually ruined the game for me.
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>>744238383
Vanquish has same issue



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