Was it worth it in the end, Final Fantatroons?
Square Enix had never made anything of value.That was Squaresoft.
>>744248631Fpbp/threadDo you want me to touch your penis?
>>744249341that's a bit gay anon
>>744248612Well earned. I've enjoyed every RE game made recently.
>>744248612What is the appeal of Resident Evil?I always thought they all feature the same characters and the same story anyway, so it's pointless.Also I dont play zombie shit or shooter shit.
>>744251596>I dont play zombie shit or shooter shitPerhaps your testosterone would start to come back if you didn't spend all your life staring at girly men and drinking søylent.
>>744251716I don't want to rile up other people's tastes.I just find the game to be edgy and uninspiring, like it lacks the kino factor of RPGs.They also have the same gameplay over and over.
>>744248612deserved desu
Who cares? Beyond Nintendo the entire country of Japan might as well be a dead state.
>>744248612They're still way ahead of fatlus slop, that's all that counts.
>>744248612Capcom can pump out a RE yearly because the gameplay has been relatively the same since RE4. Meanwhile, Square takes years to make a new FF game because they want to make their games more action-oriented instead of turn-based. They spend so much time developing new gameplay mechanics with every new FF game since 10, just for it to flop.
why is capcom able to release AAA resident evil games all the time while it takes squenix 15 years to make a mainline final fantasy? what are they doing wrong?
>>744248612It's kinda funny that Resident Evil stopped being good around the same time as Final Fantasy. Actually, it's not funny at all.Coincidence?
>>744252119Giraffe blowjob came out way before FFBarry.
>>744252094Maybe because Capcom games are 10h long and Square games are +30h. You dumb Sakurako nigger.
>>744252252Be nicer to Sakurako posters.
>>744252094Because RE games are all the same, just with different characters and settings.
>>744252119crapcom had its own dark ages and then it partially recovered a little bit, squenix finds new depths to sink to every day
>>744251596Resident Evil 1-3 were fun relatively short and replayable games with a decent amount of tension and great atmosphere, but that shit all died out around code veronica so now you are left with a generic action shooter franchise where the cold cast are still hanging around in like their 60s removing all sense of stakes in any other story that has come after 3
>>744252252Falcom games are like 80 hours long and they have near yearly releases no excuse
>>744251978Yeah Square Enix with 40000 employees is beating Atlus with 37 employees.
>>744252045>Meanwhile, Square takes years to make a new FF game because they want to make their games worse not better.Perhaps that's the issue.
>>744252252Really weird math on that one Anon...
>>744252656Skill issue.
>>744252550LMAO Falcom Shovel ware literally look like a PS2 game hell even a decade old Neptunia game look better than some of the newer Falcom game. Buy a better brain instead of a Falcom game nigger.
>>744252550Trails beyond the Horizon took me a little over 100 hours to beat on Nightmare and we get one of those every year. That being said Falcom have always been more focused on writing and world than graphical fidelity or unique arstyle. Which was something SquareSOFT used to be really good at.Now most FF games are lazy trash.
>>744248612I can see whyThey're really bad
>>744252770Agreed.
>>744248612It seems that our FANTASY came to an end... and resident evil fans were the FINAL witnesses...
>>744252920Let's hope it can sell more than Metaflop did, otherwise Fatlus could be in real trouble.
Daily reminder there are not a single faggy shit in any Resident Evil game to date.In fact, there are no main protagonist that is a nig.>muh shivaNot the main in RE5, in fact she is practically forgotten.Now look at webm related, how can any self respecting individual still defend FF at this point.
>>744253009bet you didn't even watch their pride presentation
>>744253206>2024
>>744248612Final fantasy numbers are almost all old, +10 years ago.Resident evil numbers are almost all new, in the past 10 years.Shows how much square Enix has lost its way, they also pad the numbers out with RMT and their mmorpgs.
>>744252094Square Enix are like the EU and Capcom are like the United States, red tape, too much management and too many counter productive systems that stifle creativity.They also pay far too much money to the named developers, and this means they pay new recruits far less. So they get no new blood, and keep paying the 50+ year old devs far more than they are worth.
>>744248631Based af
>>744252094Capcom already explained their strategy. Remakes are the main reason for their huge success. It introduces new generation of gamers to old franchises and trains their devs to work on their games. Square enix needs to start remaking more FF games after FF7 remake is done.
>>744253471Or it shows that the gun and ball goycattle have achieved total saturation of the market.
>>744252882wasn't it leaked that the reason they had all these ugly brown side characters, was cause they hired indian sweatshop labor to make them?
>>744252791And RE9 is on par, if not even better than Rebirth graphically yet took a fraction of the time. Maybe they should try to make more focused experiences or slash budgets if they wanna put out a game once in a while
>>744248631TWEWY and TWEWY 2
RE is a super active franchise, but also does well on social media compared to most. Its crazy seeing people play 9, because it was doing numbers on social media so they want to get an algorithm boost, as their very first RE game.
>>744253609TWEWY 2 was shit and TWEWY 1 was a 7/10
>>744253596>par if not betterRequiem has absolutely better visuals than Rebirth. Its a linear game and the best looking parts are still when its dark to show off the lighting, but also the character models are super high quality. Shame that half the game sucks and is a worse game than RE4 Remake>>744253546Yeah RE has hit normie status ever since RE7 but its been increasing each release
>>744253710And yet they're both far more creative and innovative than any modern RE title.
>>744253545The only way S-E could pump out games is by sucking it up and using old school world maps like E33 did. Trying to full size 3D world with content everywhere is not going to work
>>744248612it's genuinely kind of fucking insane how big Mario is compared to EVERYONE else
>>744253560Not really a leak.
>>744253794post hands browny
>>744253521Are you implying Nomura ISN'T a genius?!
>>744254424the same people who worked on armored core and elden ring
>>744254895Brownoids don't play niche jrpgs built for Ubermensch like me, I'm afraid, but they do go crazy for RE slop.
>>744251978Obsessed.
>>744254051To be fair, and I speak as a Mario fan, Mario is just very versatile as a franchise. It can work on practically any game idea on any budget since it's inherently cartoony.
I wonder why.
>>744253545remaking RE games is 10x easier than remaking FF games
>>744255695>10x easier than remaking FF gamesIt's not. The only reason FF7R is so bloated is that they completely changed the scope and gameplay instead of just redoing the graphics and UI like everyone wanted.
>>744252045>Capcom can pump out a RE yearly because the gameplay has been relatively the same since RE4.It's because they've got four development teams working independently of one another on separate projects.
>>744255695Apperantly 10x more profitable too.
>>744255836The difference is scope, FF games comparatively take you through a shit ton of locations with a lot of enemies and NPCs. A single dungeon in FF can alone have as many total unique as enemies all of RE2. Meanwhile RE games are mostly a straight shot with only 5 or so proper unique locations.
>>744252094The more money and people you throw on a game project, the longer it takes to actually make. Scope creep, poor management and bloated teams make it exponentially harder to actually finish anything as every decision for what the game needs to have takes longer and longer to actually make.Capcom is really good at sticking to a specific set scope for their games, resulting in significantly shorter dev times. Just throwing more money and people at a project doesn't work in the video game industry yet it's what most companies keep doing anyway. This is why smaller companies like Falcom can often push out way more games than the big boys.
>>744253206astral shift is based tho
>>744251596Resident Evil, at least the recent games, have become very brainless and cinematic action oriented, so of-course normietards love it now. I played the through the RE2 remake and Requiem and these games bored me to death, I would never trade FF for RE. Even FF13 is way better game than any of these incoherent 4 hours moviegame slops.
>>744256059How many Creative Business Units does Square Enix have again? 5? 6?
>>744252119It was dogshit when they tried going full action, right around the point when SE was stuck in the mire of the Lightning trilogy and devoting all of its resources into pulling FFXIV out of its death spiral. The difference is that Capcom eventually unfucked themselves, and RE is now arguably in a better position than it's ever been in.
>>744255239Yes, you are, which is why you're here posting in an anti-ff thread.
>>744254424Seeing their portfolio it's all trash. This company is owned by ashkenazim too.
>>744256397I have no clue why people praise Requiem so much when it's such a mediocre game. While the first half is still decent, the second half is incredibly boring and uninteresting. They just took RE4 remake and removed all the unique enemies and locations, so it's just walking through boring hallways and killing the same generic enemies over and over. And then the cinematic set pieces aren't even that cool either.
>>744256202I'm not an FF fan, but the REmakes are seriously lazy. Demake 2, 3 and 4 all have cut content or nerfed features. Has FF7R cut anything significant?
>>744256631it's hard to cut anything from what is unironically essentially an rpg maker game
>>744248631squaresoft was making shit too. You simply don't remember it cause standards were lower. They are making exactly same garbage as they always did
>>744256397>FF13 is way better gameIt only becomes "good" in the post game and before that it's only barely engaging because some dumbass thought putting a story gated level cap in was a good idea. The story is fine I guess but needing to read a datalog to know what the fuck a fal'cie and l'cie were was stupid.t. retard who platinumed it
>>744248612only now did I realise resident evil is japanese tooman, do non-japanese even try?
>>744255029Woaw, Square Enix must be really shit to get gaped by India.
>>744256789pic related sold 20m by itself
>>744256983I think he was referring to good games.
>>744257013baldurs gate 3 alone blows every single ff together out of the water and i fucking hate crpgs. FFdevs simply can't write OR design good gameplay systems for life
>>744257013i know
>>744252882idk I think it's kinda based that the only good looking people in the game are White and Asian (+ Priscilla) and all the black rando NPCs are racist caricatures
>>744256983We're talking about Japanese games ITT Anon.
>>744257013>RE>goodMaybe twenty years ago, but not now.
Resident Evil seems to only peak every now and then with most games being duds. RE4 was a peak. RE7 was a peak. And now Requiem was a peak.Pretty much everything in between is either forgotten or irrelevant.As opposed to Final Fantasy which had win after win up to the PS2 era, after which it hasn't been able to even hit the ball much less get a home run.
>>744248612I'm blame lightning and her dimeless fucking foid whore bitchass game
>>744257049It doesn't even blow out it's own predecessors let alone a series that was consistently better.
I don't know about the games but 1 sure prefer Resident Evil's fans. They don't seem as desperate to push amd adtertise their brand as Final Fantasy fans do. Or they are at least not as obvious about it.
>>744248612FF is a unc ip like Zelda
>>744257301You misspelled PS3.
>>744248612you guys underestimate the ridiculous expectations and standards "fans" have for FF and how exaggerated their criticism for the new games are. It's fans, especially old fans, who have tainted and damaged the FF brand. Especially the criticism and hatred for FF7R when these are some of the best and finest Jrpg's we have gotten in the past 2 decades. The other day I was watching this Hololive girl play FF7R for the first time and by the end she not only thought it was better than E33 but already thinks is one her top games ever. Everyone who plays these games by the end end up saying similar things... Except for the "old FF fans" that all they do is spread hate and exaggerations. So many people have never given FF games a chance and all because of the FF "fans" and their vitriol. These retards have truly blown everything way out of proportion. You like 1 singular FF7 post on Twitter and for the next few days your timeline will be flooded with nothing but these haters shitting on the games and preventing anybody from having a civilized conversation.Like nigger if you hate FF games so much then move the fuck on! But they have turned this shit into a grift. Especially that Sebby guy, you'll never escape getting his content shoved down your throat if you have any interest in FF. Dude was a huge FF16 shill till he realized he got more views by trashing it instead.
>>744251896>They also have the same gameplay over and over.So do RPGs, well, the good ones at least.
>>744257515Were you not here for Requiem's launch?
>>744257647I've 100% both FF7R and FF16 so I think I'm justified in saying I know their worse than previous entries but they are playable and I just have a high tolerance for bullshit and don't value my time.
>>744257647>watching this Hololive girl play FF7R
>>744257647>wanting a game that's at least a 6/10>ridiculous expectations and standardsYeah maybe in todays fucked gaming market.
>>744257647>Like nigger if you hate FF games so much then move the fuck on!they did move on, it's why the series sells like absolute shit nowadays
>>744257647>>744257792>16No I'll stop you there, 16 is irredeemable trash that only 14fags can enjoy. Even if it wasn't called FF, it would still be a 6/10 game at best. A game with gacha tier gameplay but without the gacha tier scale.7Rs are great though, the only haters they have are people in love with their memories of 7 who haven't actually replayed 7 for 30 years
>>744257647That's because people don't give a fuck for 90% of jrpgs so they always choose FF as the content bait
>>744257919I was born the same year FF7 came out so I didn't finish it until after playing the first remake part and I still think the original was better.
>>744257647>Like nigger if you hate FF games so much then move the fuck on!Okay.
>>744257647Don't worry if FF17 is good he will larp as a fanboy
>>744257647I still remember that fucker, Shill Up's, glowing preview video of ff16 in which he said that "purists" had nothing to worry about and that it was very definitely going to live up to the ff name.
>>744258094I'm still buying Revelation, cope and seethe, nigger.
>>744252094Reused assets, pretty small areas all things considered. Rebirths map is like twice the size of every area in the last 8 resident evil games combined
>>744253596a 10h final fantasy is not what anyone wants
>>744254051Mario is Mr video game himself.
>>744252094RE games are like 10 hours long at most and even then they reuse a lot of assets.CVR literally recycles the Hospital
>>744258454The perfect RPG length is around 30 hours. Enough time for the intro/setup, tons of midgame build up, satisfying ending with a few well designed side contentModern RPGs now try to push 100 hours
>>744252094Jrpgs take too long to make. They are way longer, with way more scenes, and if you go open world/hubs is even worse, not to mention you need to balance around a party not one character. It's why most jrpgs go cheap weeb graphics of pixel slop (and not even the good old one) now. Even p6 needed a decade to exists, which is why Atlus want bigger sales too
>>744248612Best RE games:>REmake>RE2 (OG)>ZeroBest FF games:>VIII>XII>WoFF
>>744258518can't they do that with FF? SOP and the FF7R games have a shit ton of monsters from 1-10
>>744256218I have the feeling they can use rebirth combat again, which is why revelation has jobs out of nowhere. Once they are out of 7R they can just make new ffs eith this system and multiplatform
>>744258629Ff14 is beloved and they pretty much just imported 1-1 monster models from ffxi
>>744258018Most people feel that way.
>>744248631Fpbp
>>744258629They are already doing it with 7R, revelation came faster thanks to reusing assets.It's about making new and shorter games more than anything. FF17 would obviously be something new so they shouldn't need 3 games to tell a pandering old game
>>744258620This is the most try hard I'm a hardcore gamer post I seen in a while Stop larping ff12 and re0 are bad video games Ff8 is mediocre, and re1make is a downgrade from the original game
>>744258718Let me guess. You like FF6 and Covid Veronica.
>>744258718>re1make is a downgrade from the original gameIt's a trade off but nuance is forbidden on 4chinks
>>744258824I really dislike how nerfed the movement feels in re1make. You turn so awkwardly that I feel like people only bitch about tank controls because this was the game that made people think that's how tank controls play.PS1 re games and re4/5 are extremely fluid and easy to control.Also all the Lisa shit is actually filler, and the door animations should have been cut. The game didn't need them
>>744258782Ff6 is a great game, what's wrong with being a fan of it? but 9 and 11 are my favorite ff games Code Veronica is also bad. Re4 original is obviously the best one but I can see arguments for any of the PS1 games
>>74425854240 to 50 I think, with all postgame. 30 is too short.
>>744258932Also crimson heads are dumb, if you play remotely correct you never engage with them, and the few times you do kill a zombie you don't feel like dealing with as a crimson you have to stop everything and spend 5-10 mins playing inventory jenga and door animation slideshows as you run across several rooms
>>744258996FF9 loses its plot after Brahne's death, FF6's plot is so bad that the only good thing from it is Ultros, and FF11 is mmo. Now that is a "hard try" post.And of course, the game that changed the formula and the direction of RE series is your favorite one.
>>744259160Crimson heads is the only criticism I completely agree with. I think both versions have their merits though and I had no issue with tank controls since that's what felt natural even though I played REmake first.
>>744259186Ff9 doesn't lose the plot, the worse thing you can say is freya running out of things to do or talk about which compared to other ff games where most party members run out of shit to talk about literally seconds after recruitment. Which if you want to talk about bad plots in good ff games how about half of ff7 being cloud dicking around and just by chance people happen to spot sepeiroth miles away.Ff11 is a great game, sorry you missed out on it's golden era.Re4 is a good game, yes I like good games. I don't really care if it changed the formula, like cool? I know, and it's still a great game. Ff6 plot is good
When it comes to Final Fantasies, I, V, and VI are my favorites.I did play and like the FFVII Remake and it's combat, but it's hampered by a couple of things that seems to find their way into most modern AAA games.
>>744259186FF9 is perfect from start to finish.
I miss 1999.
>>744258359You and less than a million other people.
>>744259665That's what Sakaguchi said, and then he was fired.
>>744248631Amen
>>744259424I adore ff9, good music, decent combat encounters, okay ability system, great characters and story. It's a game I think about fairly often the last 25 years.Every complaint I heard about it on this website is nothingburgers like yeah freya does lose plot relevancy but her story was done, it's combat is a bit slow but whatever, tetra master is ass but desu I don't like triple tried or queens blood either. It's such a small part of these games I don't really give a shitMy biggest complaint as a lover of the game is how much of the side content is tied to chocobo hot and cold. Pretty much all of it, for a mini game that isn't fun.
>>744258359I'm still eating shitCongrats I guess?
>>744259779Doubt it unfortunately. My guess is a bunch of retards were just waiting for it to be complete and will now come running to the trough to gobble the slop.
>>744259929has that ever happened in the history of anything
>>744259779I don't care, the fuck that it exists, that I'll buy it on day one, and that you'll still be seething is enough for me.
>>744260034im so mad you waste your money on a shitty, dying franchise broyou should try literally burning your money that'd make me cry
>>744248612Up 8% today. Keep on coping, hater niggers. :)))))
>>744260124>im so madOh, I'm well aware of that.
>>744248612>Unclsop combat enthusiasts are now praising a game series that has never been tainted with turn-based combat, simply because it surpassed a game series that used to have uncslop turn-trash combat.You can't make this shit up. TB niggers are much dumber than I thought.
>>744257647>Everyone who plays these games by the end end up saying similar things.Yet, you only have one example.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElGteNiBJVANevermind me, just posting classical orchestras playing music from FFVI-FFX.
>>744260358They're used to playing movie games that practically play themselves, the second any kind of mechanical complexity is introduced they crash out. Troon-based fags are the same retards begging From Software to add easy modes to their games.
>>744260016Lots of fantasy book series have people who won't start a new one if it's unfinished because they've been burned enough times by author deaths or getting GRRMd cause muh writers block or whatever.
>>744260415https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRsEdN0jroU
>>744259779Kek based
>>744260650>>744260415>>744257647Sebbywebz has a point when he says the music in the demakes and 16 has gone to shit.
>>744248631
I'm more surprised Pokeslop keeps selling.
>>744259879he left on his own
>>744257647faggot had a point until resonance got shown off10 years since WoFF and acts like it's not a big deal that we're getting a new console turn based FF
>>744261361Pokemon is essentially a cult at this point. And I don't mean like the 2 schitzophrenics pretending Final Fantasy still matters, I mean like a swarm of gray people who think playing every Pokemon game is their meaning in life.
>>744261630He's not wrong though. Its just a port of a gacha game, its really not the same at all as 17 being turn based. Hell Bravely Default is literally just FF without the logo and has been turn based the whole time.
>>744261630Grifters always have to keep the goalposts moving in order to keep their grift alive.
>>744261361brand recognition so strong that it has zero issues fully carrying the games since 2013
>>744261689everything is a cult at this point
>>744260740For me, it's the synthwave remix.https://youtu.be/NXXsSWdRQVY?t=4114
>>744261952Yes, humans are tribal creatures, they'll anything and everything into a cult. Retarded ass species.
>>744260740>Remake music sucks because it is not PS1 midiHoly fuck, you braindead haters are retarded.
>>744262046>music so good it works in every genreGoddamnit the golden era was truly golden.
>>744252045Capcom's devs are leagues above Square's. My evidence is Square tries to hire away Capcom devs. Not the other way around.
>>744261952I remember when the internet wasn't like this.
>>744262267>Remake music sucks because it is not PS1 midiYes. It's supposed to be videogame music
>>744262357This is because Square Enix is modernizing their AAA pipeline. All of the antiquated turn-based trash needs to go, so it makes sense to purge developers from Capcom.
>>744262547>purge*poach
Adulthood is realizing that Enix has been fucking over the Square half of the company back ever since their merger 20 years ago. Actual fucking parasites.
>>744262267anon in 100 years people will still be playing Dancing Mad, Liberi Fatali, Don't Be Afraid, You're Not Alone, Wicked Melody/The Dark Messenger, what original music from the later games are people playing? One Winged Angel is from 1997.
>>744262820If that were the case, why has DQ, the Enix property, been consistently good?
>>744259773
>>744262820>dragon quest in spin off limbo, last mainline game just became 9 years old soon with DQ12 only now finally properly being shown off, looking the same with DQ11 without even a date>drakengard/nier also in limbo but with nothing to look forward to>star ocean, valkyrie profile and tri-ace MIA since 2022>everything else is either port fodder or completely dead
>>744263063DQ has been shit since the second game.
