>2016: Considered one of the worst Street Fighters ever, a complete failure >2026: Fondly remembered as one of the best Street Fighters everHuh
At launch SFV had significant issues with were fixed by 2026.
>>744322782>What are update?
>>744322782>Considered one of the worst Street Fighters everBy who...Its one of my favs, my most played and I only like alpha 3 better than V.Only issue is I played it so much I dont want to go back to it.Also of course it released as a PoS. Took a while to be decent enough to play.
>>744322873Doesn't change how bad the game was at launch
>>744322873>Just wait 6 years from now bro, THEN your AAA game will be tolerable! Kek you are such a cuckold
>>744322910Have you considered maybe the people who fondly remember the game didn't play it at launch
Because all the people who hate current thing have moved on to hating the new current thing.
>>744322782>2026: Fondly remembered as one of the best Street Fighters everBy who? Like 5 copers on /sfg/? No one likes this shit lmao. There's no revival attempt, no side tourneys, playercount mogged by SF4. It's dead and gone.
>no arcade mode>no versus cpu >terrible 2 min "character story" and the garbage survival modes being the only solo content for months >online barely worked>lobbies barely worked>error codes every other match with trash netcode >story mode finally comes out months later and it's the most incoherent nonsense imaginable The first year of SFV was rough...like really rough man. Be lucky if you didn't have to play the game during it.
>>744323050You lost
>>744322782In a period of 3 years from 2016 to 2019 SFV went from an unfinished half baked mess with high input latency, extreme aggression and excessive CH damage, oppressive throwloops and minimal features to the cleanest, best balanced and most interesting fighting gameplay we've had in decades featuring a big roster of characters which play significantly differently from each other and have lots of soulful costumesIn a period of 3 years from 2023 to 2026 SF6 added a battle pass and Mai
>>744323195>shows a chart where SF4 outpeaks it
>>744323215>In a period of 3 years SFV went from an unfinished cash grab to a competent game>In a period of 3 years SF6 went from a great game to an even better one How sad that SFV bros consider this a win lol
The game was fatally flawed by v trigger and even though it became a lot better after season 3/3.5 when throw loops were removed and all the scaling problems were fixed, people doing ex bullshit xx activate was still incredibly unfun and you had to deal with it every single round sometimes twice. Other than that, it's certainly the SF game closest to the pure honest high IQ footsies meme people like to pretend the rest of the series is (until v trigger of course).
>>744323293This guy bought the battle pass
>>744322978Have you considered you are a goy and a slop consumer? You fucking retard.
>>744322782I honestly never really played 4 or 5. I'm sure it had its issues but I regret missing out on SF4, since whatever problems it might have had I would surely have enjoyed it more than Drive Rush 6.
Why does /v/ despise SF6 so much despite it being better than V in every way?
>>744323398>He gets baited by Drive Rushes lol, you wouldn't have lasted in 4 or 5
>>744323109I played it day one and dropped it. picked it back up when alex released, was alex main until the end.
>>744323412Current contrarianism. Everyone fucking hated 5, and for good reason, but the average vermin is a fucking collective cult of hiveminds who hate whatever is current because they're a bunch of skillless niggers.
Remember that someone fixed the netcode on PC with a mod and capcom forced them to take it down lol
>>744323449I just don't care for how large their footprint on the game is. You seem like a fag by the way.
>>744323398SF4 was the pinnacle, it's been simplification and homogenisation since then. The character specialist as a concept is pretty much dead outside of a few intricate v-triggers in SF5 and maybe like Dhalsim/Viper players in SF6
>>744323303>it's certainly the SF game closest to the pure honest high IQ footsies meme people like to pretend the rest of the series isIsn't that SF2?
>>744323581SF4 had stubby ass normals with MK style shitty animations and an ugly artstyle and hyper emphasis on 1 frame links just to be even good at the game.
>>744323575You sound like you're projecting
>>744322782it's like when you hate high school and then graduate and get a job and realize how much better things were
SF1: Irrelevant SF2: Boomer game for 40 year oldsSF3: Too Technical and forced soul with the pixel artThe REAL SF3 (Alpha): Genuinely great, the apex of the series SFIV: A great follow up to AlphaSFV: TurdThe REAL SFV (SF6): A great follow up to IV
>>744323628Absolutely not, it's by far the most degenerate.
>>744323412the best SF6 player with 3 EVO wins and is a two time capcom cup winner, being arguably the single most consistent street fighter player of all time, directly said SF6 should change to be more like SFV earlier this week
>>744323640>stubby ass normals with MK style shitty animations and an ugly artstyleyou mean SFV?
>>744323651I just don't know what your point is. Even if I were absolutely abysmal at SF6 what does it matter? You'll know whether you like the game and Drive Rush as a system long before you ever hit Platinum, much less Master. The game is the game.
>>744323808yes but what does the current 15 year old SF6 prodigy of the week think?
Was a god awful game at lauch but managed to become a pretty decent game towards the end.Its not really that hard to understand.
V was great. Easily the best roster in SF history. 6's roster is so bad I refuse to buy the game.
>>744323786Maybe. Hyper Fighting is pretty great though. None of the games are particularly balanced, but what I meant is SF2 is the most pure form of Street Fighter. No fighting game is high IQ.
>>744323813Both are true.
As long as the game has Cammy it's a good SF game in my eyes
>>744324002Both are not true. SF4 had strong normals and blessed footsies
>>744324219Why do people always make a big deal about "stubby limbs"? Stubby compared to what? If everyone's limbs are stubby surely nobody's are
>>744324614Ever played 3rd Strike?
>>744324812yes, but you didn't answer the question
>>744322782They've had a decade of sf5 which was so shit that everyone outside of a few new people to the genre and the sponsored players being held hostage dropped the game until the 2018 update where people pretended the game was finally fixed6 being shit makes the people that grew up with 5 look back on it fondly
>>744322895>update censors T&ACapcom let us down in this department.
>>744322782That's what happens when the next game is even more retarded. The gameplayboys hate it the new slop, while overrating the previous slop. And the hypetrainers love the new one.
>NOOOOOO THE GAME ISNT SHIT YOU'RE JUST HATERS HEY LOOK AT THIS OTHER GAME THAT WAS SHIT TOO STOP CRITICIZING THE CORPORATION NOOOOOOOOOOO DADDYYYYYYYYYYYY
>>744322782Trying to revise history I see, let me give the actual events:1. SFV releases and anyone who isn't a grifter or a retard drops fighting games, they become gacha and monster hunter players.2. SF6 releases and the filth that didn't leave at SFV or who started with it are pissed that they can't win anymore so now they are nostalgic about that shitstain of a game.
>>744322910>>744322895These. "Just give them your money now. The game might get better in 7 years, bro". Fuck all that. That's why the genre is fucked. The FGC perpetuates that mentality as well.
>>744322782Yeah it's almost like it took the entire lifespan of sfv for the devs to finally patch it into a decent playable game that didn't have 2 characters being utterly broken. There is no hindsight to this shit when us old enough to remember it were there
>>744325954thankfully SF6 doesn't have this issue as the game isnt changing besides getting more characters and stages
>>744325887SFV might have been a shitstain but SF6 is a whole turd
>>744322782No thanks. SF4 was the last tolerable SF.
SFV fanboys have been trying so hard to do history revision but ain't no one letting them get away with this bullshit
>>744323759https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBPqksG9nbA
>>744325887>they become gacha and monster hunter players.you forgot tekken 7 or dragonball/strive players
>throw loops are awful in SFV>after several years fix them>immediately reintroduce them in SF6someone explain this to me
>>744322782>Fondly remembered as one of the best Street Fighters everThis never happened. It became tolerable at best, no amount of your shitposting will change history.
>>744326334They give superpowers to shitters to get HYPE upsets vs pro players who are a far smaller minority and will play regardless of how shit the game is
>>744322782>Fondly remembered
>>744326685sf5 is dogshit ,but posting hobos chat is bit disingenuous
>>744326235LMAO
At launch it was really bad, the plastic and shiny MvCI artstyle didn't clicked until years later, I still remember Ken having the banana hairstyle.
>>744327093Show the rest of the games anon. I'd like to see something.
>>744326428This entire thread is dunking on OP. It's actually been a pretty funny read
>>744324614>compared to what?to the previous entries?>everyone's limbs are stubby surely nobody's arestubby normals are more commonplace after 4 i don’t even know why it could be because of the mocaping or the general direction of always aggro no defensive play allowed that crapcom has been going towards for the last couple of years.
>>744325887>1. SFV releases and anyone who isn't a grifter or a retard drops fighting gamesConfirmed grifters and retards:PunkTokidoMenaRDBonchanIdomChrisGNuckleduDaigoNemoThe BirdsPhenom
>>744327669>compfags
>>744327634forgot linkhttps://youtu.be/0gLRBdyz2so?si=UaQZlDRggdF6k5r4&t=36
>>744327669>lists Obligation Fighters
>>744327634>because of the mocaping or the general direction of always aggro no defensive play allowedSFV isn't mocapped and is probably the most defensive neutral focused fighting game that exists in the modern era
>>744322782>>2026: Fondly remembered as one of the best Street Fighters everlmao
Reminder that launch SFV is a better game than SF6 will ever be.
>>744324219SF4 was not a good footsie game.
>>744327913just living in absolute fantasy land
>>744322782The fall of SFV is less to do with the game itself and more to do with the fact that it’s an online gaas esport. The game being dead now doesn’t speak to its quality. All online games from post 2015 will just evaporate after they stop getting support. That’s just how things are going to be from now on
>>744327669>list of people whose life depends on the game doing well>not shills
>sfv comes out>mocked for being too casual compared to sf4 and for being designed to let timmy beat daigo>sf6 is even MORE casual and designed to let timmy beat daigo even more>everyone loves it and continues to shit on sfv
>>744328042no I just actually play fighting games.
>>744328127SFV was dumbed down but it was still hard for Timmy to beat Daigo because he would take the throw and even neutral skipping into vtrigger on block you had to beat him in neutral more than once. In SF6 you just have to make him block a single time into drive rush cancel then you have a chance of winning the round with throw loops.
>>744327781>most defensive neutral focused fighting game that exists in the modern era>game that started modern throw loops had more defensive neutral >literally started the cuck "take the throw" phrase third strike for how offensive and scrambly the game can be had more throw invul frames and wakeup options.and also lacked V-tranny shenanigans
SF6 is unplayable dogshit.
>>744328385parry slop is not street fighter.
>>744328127>TimmyThis isn't the insult you think it is
>>744322782V was better than 4
>>744325887>GrifterYou should seriously stop using words that you have zero understanding of. You look fucking retarded
>>744328040SF4 could be an insane flying retardfest like Poongko vs Pepeday or it could be the pinnacle of neutral like Daigo vs Momochi. You could get whatever you wanted out the game which is why it's so special
>>744328527i miss when characters were unique
>>744327669Punk = a nobody until SFV where reactions were all that mattered showed up, then he stacked himself with adderall and started winning everything cause knowledge and timing doesn't matter in that game.MenaRD = a random smash player that showed up with SFV as wellBonchan = got mind broken by SFV cause he was losing every tournament and started talking about working at McDonalds once his sponsor drops him, then he figured out he needs to play more random and started winningNuckledu = quit playing SFV at one point after talking about how he wants to kill himself for the 5th time on twitterDaigo = already talked on camera about how he lied about how SFV is a good game "to get capcom out of hard times"Tokido = huge sellout and crybaby, he said SFV is his favourite games (I wonder if it's because it's the only one he won evo with while abusing SFV jank)I won't bother with the rest, you get the idea.
>>744328612>Daigo = already talked on camera about how he lied about how SFV is a good game "to get capcom out of hard times"sauce?
>>744328527https://youtu.be/3UaXhe_XPsU?t=552always remember this one
>>744328515If you said that to my face I'd knock your teeth in, watch yourself little boy, and suck my dick while you're at it faggot
>>744328649fucking look it up bitch, I saw it when SF6 released, a clip of one of his streams, I think it was posted on kappa or kappachino whatever too, I won't waste my time to search it for your dumb ass
>>744327729People always talk about these individual properties out of context. If the only thing you looked at were the number of recovery frames with hurtbox extension you could easily say that SF6 has longer recovery with more vulnerable hurtboxes on normals than the equivalent normals in SFV. So does that mean SF6 has "better footsies" than SFV? No why the fuck would it mean that? Having more vulnerable recovery makes it easier to whiff punish buttons, but it also makes the other player less likely to want to press normals in situations where they might whiff, and you can't whiff punish a button if the other player isn't interested in pressing buttons that might whiffWhat you have to look at is all of the rest of the game surrounding those normals in context, and you'll realise that in SFV your options in neutral other than walking and pressing buttons are extremely limited because for 90% of the round you do not have a universal system mechanic that forces your way into a gamble. For most characters in SFV when you are in neutral your options are walk, press buttons, jump which is a reaction AA or a forward dash with very limited range which is potentially checkable on reaction. People walk and press buttons and potentially whiff in SFV because that's what you have to do, that's what the overall package of mechanics encouragesYou don't do that in SF6, because it isn't a good use of your time, because whiffed buttons are easily punished and because you have much stronger and more retarded options like fan into drive rush which negate that entire segment of the game. And third strike lest we forget is a game where jumping forwards is a mixup and makoto has an 11 frame forward dash that goes half the screen
>>744328527whiff punishing a sweep is not very impressive or special to SF4.overall the framedata was just not well made for it compared to 3 or 5.gief mashing st.mp with zero recovery and no hurtbox is not good footsies.
>>744322782Same happened to 3 and 4. Old gud new bad.
>>744328385anon what year is it?SFV removed throw loops in less than 2 years. SF6 has had them for 3 years and counting with no signs of change
>>744328739Regardless of 3's framedata high level Third Strike is just a pogostick fest because parry is such an overbearingly strong mechanic. You basically never get to play proper neutral in that game
>>744328612>losing every tournamentcoming 2nd in every tournament isn't the big failure you seem to think it is
you'll see this happen often. you're playing something shitty and thinking its terrible until its sequel comes out and proves that its even worse, forcing you to say what was previously shit is relatively better than what is now the newest because we didnt think the depths could be plummeted any furthersee other examples:botw and skyward swordtotk and botwds3 and ds2elden ring and ds3deus ex mankind divided and human revolutionbioshock infinite and bioshock 2borderlands 3 and borderlands 4code vein and code vein 2dmc5 and dmc4dragon age 3 and dragon age 4every new final fantasy installmentevery single ff14 and wow expansionetc etc forever
>>744328669You're still retarded
>>744329009the thing that sucks about SF6 though is that SFV seemed to be making good decisions towards the end of it's life then the people responsible repeated a lot of the issues again
>>744328527Reminder this is proof that SHOTOS are the most honest archetype and the personification of REAL STREET FIGHTER
>>744328809V didn't have throw loops retard.
Make-A-Wish Fighter 6
>>744329257it had throw loops during S1 with a very similar wakeup game to what SF6 still has
Not even gonna reply to that, someone tell him
>>744322782street fighter such a shit franchise that sfv probably is one of the best sf ever sadly.
>>744329371thanks
>>744323759>straightforwardhonest. no overheads, no command grabs, no bullshit. just pure skill and honest.
>>744329371And /v/ shat on it for years, not just S1.
>>744327634if they made every normal more or less 20% longer and nerffed the damage by he same amount sf5 would have been amazing
I loved the sf4 era and the people were great, but it was over with sf5, a lot of people moved to xrd after sf4, I personally never liked xrd either, but when strive released then it was over over, and all the cool people I knew quit.I checked from time to time to see if anything not shit released but since most games are made by arcsissies, crapcom and bandit namco it's always been shit, though I kind of like what I'm seeing with avatar, I will try it when they actually finish the game.
>>744329703damage in SFV was already heavily nerfed, its arguably the lowest damage game in the series
>>744322782They got the dude who fumbled at being GGXrd evo champion to be the fight director and he put some GG into SF and it was enough to save it
>>744328719>but it also makes the other player less likely to want to press normals in situations where they might whiff, and you can't whiff punish a button if the other player isn't interested in pressing buttons that might whiffgiven that sfV had the normal priority system on top of the crush counters couldn't it be argued that these 2 also disincentivise pressing buttons? >you do not have a universal system mechanic that forces your way into a gambleVtrigger was that mechanic and depending on the matchup/patch you absolutely were forced into a guess there’s no way some fighting G when he was at his peak thought that his v-trigger didn't force a guess>a game where jumping forwards is a mixupfor both ends, both have access to parries, again in the initial post i never said turd strike was anything other than a scrambly offensive heavy game but you DO have more defensive options.>>744328809>SFV removed throw loops in less than 2 yearsoh did that make the game any less of a aggro corner fest? did it not start the take the throw and sit in the cuck chair era? idk why you anons have me defending turd strike the initial posts were about how bad SFVs normals and offensive based gameplay felt vs the older titles, nobody who has spent any amount of time playing any of these games will have the opinion that their game is "perfect"
>>744329750>a lot of people moved to xrd after sf4no they didn't lol
>>744329750i can think of like only like two 09ers who had results in xrd's entire life
>>744329975>oh did that make the game any less of a aggro corner fest?Yes>did it not start the take the throw and sit in the cuck chair era? No, that started because of the throw loops and it was easier to fight your way out after the changes which was the whole point.
>>744329975>oh did that make the game any less of a aggro corner fest?yes actually?
>>744330040>>744330109I'm not talking about pros, I'm talking about people I know, and also some youtubers I was watching, a bunch of xrd guides for sf players started showing up, but it didn't last long, probably because the xrd competitive scene was forcefully shut down as arcsissies always do, if they make a new game then they don't pay the evo fee to have an old game on the main stage anymore.
>>744329975>priorityevery dickhead knows about this as their one random SFV factoid and thinks it's important when it means fuck all in the context you're trying to force it into. Priority only ever applies in situations where buttons would trade, and in games where you don't have a priority system those trades typically lead to trade combos which favour the player who would have won under SFV's priority system, in some cases with greater rewards than you would have gotten by just landing the priority counterhitNothing discourages pressing buttons in neutral that could whiff more than SF6's punish counter mechanic that sucks your gauge pushing you closer to instant death and gives sometimes massively increased frame advantage on buttons that can be drive cancelled to allow conversions from anywhere. This is actually one of the major reasons why drive rush is so retarded, because if you try to check drive rush with a button and you get fucked by a momentum killing DR>special then you absolutely eat shit for having the audacity to try and react defensively to someone pressing their big gamble button from the other end of the screen>oh did that make the game any less of a aggro corner fest?Yes, next question
>>744330279Those people? All transgender now. How could SFV do this? Ono has blood on his hands.
remember when characters did different things instead of the entire roster being touch -> autoconfirm into green slime -> fullscreen corner carry -> corner RAPE
I would play sf6 if it wasn't so fucking ugly. I would slime around, but I can't stand how it looks, disgusting game.
funny how obvious it is that sfv defenders are much more knowledgable than sf6 shitposters on v
>>744330538Probably because they actually care about learning how games are meant to be played instead of mashing in Dogshit Tour and then only spend 10h at most online.
>>744330532I upgraded my PC for tokon and running it with the 2x internal resolution and some lighting mods does help to polish the turd
>>744330389I wish Gief was like that but he just sucks.
>>744330243>>744330309>game is less aggromaybe they added more throw invul on wakeup >nope still 2turd strike has 6 btw just saying >crouch techingNOPE>useful backdash?NOPE>uhhh.....invul DPs?NOPE need ex lmao what do you get quick/delay rising? and a V-Reversal? which from my understanding varies on usefulness depending on char.>keeps mentioning 6your going to ignore this but the only thing any anon is going to agree on here (regardless if you play street fighter or are a V-tranny) is that nobody likes 6 its dr is shit and it plays like shit the comparisons were for SFV and the older titles which sfV is obviously way more offensive focused like every other modern FG past the release of 4
>>744328902yes and no.ken is straight up a footsies bot, chun wins the same way. air parry garbage though.
>>744330840gief is actually more unique than ever but its only because sodom and hugo are in limbo + they made t. hawk even lamer with a gay gimmick
>>744322782The GOAT
>>744322782its just the washes up sfv pros that are glazing sfv
>>744329975>le priority systemlmao
>>744331194MenaRD is washed?
>>744331170guile was very fun in 5.wouldve been fun in 4 if it wasnt for anti neutral dogshit mechanics like focus.
>>744331194>its just the washed up sfv pros that are glazing sfv
>>744328714so it didnt happen got it
>>744331326the walking evidence that SF6 is random, all of his wins during the evo and capcom cup just be sent to losers 3-0 round 1 by a lily in EWC earlier today
>>744331108>useful backdash?oh shit look at that, what year is it again?
09ers are so embarrassing.its meta was defined by yun, seth and viper and they unironically talk about other games being too offensive.straight up the most retarded posers.
>>744331627>v-reversal are backdashesweird looking backdash chuns got there https://streetfighter.fandom.com/wiki/Sou_Hakkei
>v-reversal09ers really dont play LMAO
>>744332010>v-reversalsplease continue exposing yourself
>>744332094they watched mike ross and gootecks though
>>744332010Yikes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VISqIzYKvckino INCOMING
vshift was good. they didnt have to rape the final patch with luke though.hate that SF6 somehow made 5 worse retroactively.
me and a couple friends got sf5 with all the dlc dirt cheap not long ago and played some lobbies, it was our first time playing for most of us. shit was fun, i like oro, idk what the meta is like in this game lol
>>744331627>>744332165forgot the name ¯\_( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)_/¯>has to spend meter on a backdash for invul
>>744332406only problem with vshift is it accidentally made dhalsim top 1
>>744332460So would you say the game was, err.... "an aggro corner fest with offensive based gameplay" or nah
>>744332647Not after the season 2 changes, in fact at the end of the game's life all the zoners were top tier, Sim, Menat, Poison even Falke was high tier on the last patch.
i greatly enjoyed 5 desu, from day 1 even. i doubt 6 will get as much out of me, though i do have high hopes for yasmine next week. but it was also a pretty different time in my life back then in 2016
>>744332723>falkegod, playing against 4philzz was suffering. made me hate that character
>>744332451You get most of it back if it's successful.
>>744332751Yasmine being fun or not won't make the game better and I find it really hard to believe they're suddenly going to go "yeah you guys were right, we're getting rid of throw loops and now drive rush is way weaker". They don't want to rock the boat they just want to sell the Tifa season pass to vtuber fans.
>>744332845cmp was already a crazy button and they made it faster in the last patch it just won mus by itself and the ex standing shot was amazing. She wasn't top 5 but definitely top 10, made good use of spamming vshift as well since both her triggers weren't good.
>>744332845Falke was the honestest and mid tier at best. If you lost to her it was all skill issues.
>>744333132Falke was definitely better than mid tier in season 4 her mu spread was very good the majority of the roster couldn't beat her in neutral and she had plenty of opportunities to set up vskill 2 to force her way in for free and retard mode easy input dp meant she was immune to a huge number of gimmicks.
>>744332845didnt help that 4philzz was the only one in the region who knew how to play her outside of mashing VT2 so getting matched with him was always an auto-loss.
>>744332460dhalsim got many many buffs that made him strong.
>>744332751quit SF6 before the end of 2023. terrible game.currently mashing in Avatar that at least resembles a fighting game.
>>744332647>dhalsim>zonerhe was in fact, one of the best rushdown and setplay characters in the game.
>>744333379over time yes, but one of the later patches was like "we aren't going to buff dhalsim because we're worried vshift will make him too strong" when he wasn't considered that strong before hand and they were absolutely right
>>744333294Yeah but her problem is that she had some horrible matches. She was good against shotoe but it was almost impossible to win agains sim or balrog for example.
>>744333625The characters she was bad against were mainly top tiers anyway and she beat everyone else, that makes her definitely above average. She was just very underrated going into the end of the game because she spent a long time as a bottom 5 character.
>>744333608they made his carpet go away on vreversal because it was big gay and then they just reverted that nerf because fuck it and he's been a plague since.
>>744333832Yeah, she was underrated but I don't think she was top tier either. She was in the upper mid tier maybe. The game was still pretty well balanced at the end of it either way, outside of Luke.
>>744326150>>>/vt/ranny
>>744328472Its a /vg/ insult, and this thread was likely made by an /fgg/ot who was allowed out of his cage for some reason. Literally the only place with any SFV discourse going on right now is that thread, the rest of the internet is either busy dicksucking 6, shitting on 6 or yearning for IV to come back, no one is wishing for V's return besides that shithole and some morons on X that /fgg/ loves to stalk.
>>744331326what an ugly turd
>>744322861Last time I checked the netcode was still shit
>>744336371He is the BVLL
>>744336253At this point I'm convinced OP is just being contrarian for the love of an argument
looks like vchads won this one again
>>744337828nothing new under the sun.
>>744322782I'm not sure it was one of the "best" but it's leagues better than SF6.Regardless of all the intellectually dishonest midwit takes like>LAWL YOU SAID THAT WHEN SF5 WAS THE CURRENT GAME LAWLSF5 began fixing its problems around Season 4. We're in the same season with SF6 and it hasn't even addressed the fact that the game just devolves into a drive rush casino at every level. And they never will because Capcom's current SF team are fucking retards who don't know how to design a fun game even at the fundamental level.>Duhh you guys wanted ranked Avatar battles right???No, we didn't. And they want ten seasons of this bullshit, guest character slop and lame as fuck newcomers that aren't even designed around a fun idea. SF5 got hated on for way less than what SF6 is currently getting away with. And if they don't want the "current game bad" non-argument to stick maybe they need to acknowledge the fact that this series has been on a diarrhea waterslide since 4 came out.
>>744337828>WonLol. You've been getting shit on the entire thread
>>744322782>released barebones, with no arcade mode, and no story mode until a month after>small roster>everyone was fucking nerfed after the beta, further demotivating people who tried it>capcom.sys>censorship post release>sony made a lot of the decisions initiallyIt was fucking atrocious. Arcade edition was the beginning of its redemption and then it ended up being a good product, but you cannot piss off the casual audience like this game didLook at SF6. Now they neglect costumes/stages in favor of world tour shit that the japanese and overall casuals gobble up, and have record numbers because of it
>>74433837409ers got completely taken apart though.
>>744338390Also way better newcomers than 6. Laura and Menat alone shit on jamie and all of the other people there
>>744337828*yawn*Champion Edition was our victory lap, we've been gaping vappas since AE.
We are never going to have good rosters like these ever again.Meanwhile Year 4 of SF6 has:>3 kookily OCs>ANOTHER Guest character
>>744338912I miss Hakan.I miss Alex.
>>744322782the sfv era still had a little bit of soul left despite all the controversy with the gamesf6 is completely fake and soulless and i refuse to partake in itno, i wont explain myself
>>744338064I want to eat ramen from Laura's armpit bowls.
>>7443389125s final roster was such a love letter.
>>744338064People just forgto to complain about the lack of defensive options.
>>744340907Throws have been in dire need of addressing since SF2, teching always feels more like a band-aid than an actual fix.
>>744341134-they have been addressed both in and after sf2 way back in 1995-teching throws is important
>>744339313I don't even have fun when I win in SF6, that tells you everything
Abigail was fucking fun. I don't give a shit. He is genuinely one of the most fun big bodies Capcom has ever made and they'll never make a character as bold as him again.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZuqmO_Wy7o
>>744342131Strive>TRANNIESTRANNIESTRANNIESI know, I know, is the closest I've been to having fun in a fighter post SFV. I'm not a big anime fighter but at least it isnt as cracked out and spastic as all of Arcsys other games
>>744342287I've tried Strive. It's pretty fun. I don't hate it, I just hate its community. And I hate Bridget but I've always hated Bridget.
>>744322782>he still plays street fighter in spite of hating the game for a decadeyou dont have to live like this...
>>744342392If people weren't so enslaved to street fighter all the trannies would be pushed out. I'm not saying this as a point of pride, but they really aren't even that good, it's just that noone is playing strive and it's become some new offsite tranny discord community server
>>744342475I stop playing SF6 three years ago though.
>>744342517I like Street Fighter when it's good. And SF5 at the end of its life became a decent game.But I've always been more into Soulcalibur and that series has suffered horribly for no reason.
>>744342642I liked SC6 quite a lot but having to play around reversal edge and the netcode completely put me off taking the game seriously
>>744340907Why don't you motherfuckers ever include tweets like this one in your posts? Here's Punk qualifying his statements. He says things out of frustration, and that you dumbasses would still be ass even if Capcom removed drive rush altogether.
>>744343424>man whose financial incentive is people playing and watching the game he plays: man this game has problems on a fundamental level>same man 5 minutes later: wait don't go!
>>744343424ok but drive rush still sucks tho
>>744343558>he gets paid to play the game, so his opinion doesn't matter>unless he complains, then it's validThis cope hasn't worked since SFV.
>>744343621V was a better game thougheverbeitfully perhappenchance
>>744343726It really wasn't, and I defended it through all of its lifespan.
>>744343424>"Just cause I say something doesn't mean that It's true or I believe it"lollmao even
>>744343836You gotta be high on a marijuana cigarette to think 6 is better. Drive rush is a mistake
>>744343884You are a mistake.
>>744343873Mind you it's not like he made some offhand remark about how a specific character is OP or how some number in the math is too high, he explicitly said what the entire community is feeling, drive rush and throw loops are fucking awful, and theyre the core engine of this fucking game....
>>744343621MenaRD, the pro player that has won more in SF6, also says this game is scrubby and random ass fuck.
>>744322782gamergate fags power trippingit was on par with every other launch version jeet fighter, if not better. no one plays new generation. world warrior or even vanilla alpha (it was bretty good)
>>744344024Surely you could win Evo then if you really wanted to.
Esports killed all competitive games, japan was great when prize money was considered gambling and illegal, once they added the esports pass then it went downhill for them, but before that it went downhill for the west.Esports needs to be burned to the ground, money always ruins things.Same thing happened to youtube, videos were made by genuine people, but after google bought them and implemented ad money then it got filled by grifters.How many genuine people are left on the internet? probably none.
>>744344169That's not what that means and I would advise you to take a reading course that specializes in context clues
>>744344169Sorry, I don't have gorilla reflexes to react to sf6 jumpscares.
>>744322782the nortubel of street fighter
>>744341134Throws were addressed perfectly well in V, the end balance was good, capcom just forgot that they made a better game once already
>>744322782>2026: Fondly remembered as one of the best Street Fighters everWhy would you lie like that? The fans are fondly remembering SF4 as one of the best Street Fighters ever right now
>>744344223Maybe you should actually make an argument instead of screenshotting a single sentence and appeal to authority? Oh wait, that would actually require you to understand the game or have any meaningful skill.
>>744344442Nta but those fans are fucking wrong.People sucked off 4 because it was a gajillion years between regular numbered Street fighters, it was a terribly balanced slopfest that also had retarded combotimings. I wouldn't dare say Justin Wong is bad at fighting games but Rufus had no business being in the tops
>>744325276This
>>744344472>this game has too many variables that are almost impossible to truly account for in moment to moment gameplay>"HURRDURR THEN SURELY A BLIND 3 YEAR OLD COULD WIN EVO THEN!! BECAUSE THATS WHAT THAT MEANS!"I don't think I have to do anything.
>>744344606>I don't thinkTry it some time.
>>744344759There's that illiteracy acting up again....
>>744322782i just purchased Street Fighter 6 + all the ultimate character dlcs for yr 1-4.what am i in for if i have never played a SF game seriously
>>7443389125's roster is full of wastes let's be honest
>>744344812A very fun first few matches til you find yourself in the drive rush throwloop trenches, and unlike sf4 and 5, once you get out of the trench it gets no better, and you fight people who are yet better at the slopcombo.
>>744344812A brutal learning curve. Reminder there are no shortcuts.
>>744344812You're a fool for spending $100 on a game you aren't sure about or a liar
>>744344890>>744344906guess it's get thrown into the slaughterhouse and fight my way through huh>>744344938i just like Juri's feet so i decided it's time to see them for myself
>>744345015>i just like Juri's feet so i decided it's time to see them for myselfThat's the best approach, honestly. Pick a character you like, and try to learn the character along with the game as you go.
>making a positive thread about KAMIV on vappaBad mistake OP
>>744345015Yeah but the problem at hand is there is no through. You get thrown into a 100 mile long slaughterhouse. In 4 and V, you'd fight some retards with some prevailing gimmick strategies, but you're a retard so you learn and adapt and get better, in 6 those retard prevailing gimmicks are only more finely tuned, the method by which YOU win will be how well you master the driverush throw loop mixup slopcombo.Remember in street fighter 2 when your little brother spammed fireballs and it kicked your ass? Imagine the top players competing to see who can spam fireballs better and that's just what top level play is, that's 6
>>744345273So you're basically saying the game is super easy since you just jab confirm into slime throw loop. But if this is the case why aren't you grandmaster?
>>744344279He said the very same thing abouf SFV though. The one you niggers are glazing right now.
>>744345482I never said I'm the best at it, the same way I'm not interested in a game that is a race to the bottom of who can do this one thing better. There are people who are more willing and have more time to perfect the gay gimmick combo than I do.
People shitting on SFV for being bad at launch and then praising SF3 is funny.
>>744345691Same as>man esports ruin everything, gee I sure miss the days where 3/4s of the roster were F tier
>>744345691It's called zoomers and fake fans
>>744345612I just find it interesting how you claim the game is so simple and braindead, yet the top 8 players are still always the same pros. You'd think more no names would show up if the game was that easy to master with a low skill ceiling of 50/50s.
>>744323303if only they'd remove throw loops in dix
>>744345886You find it weird that the people with the most disposable time are also the people with the most experience doing the braindeath shuffle?
>>744345865>Fake fansSo like 90% of /v/?
>>744345969There's people who spend 8 hours a day playing slime and they are still nowhere near Punk's level.
>>744345691People only praise Third Strike though And 2nd Impact which is also god
>>744346250The same punk who says slime sucks?
>>744346250Mind you Punk wasn't top 8
>>744346289see >>744343424
>>744346496>I liedHow do we know he's not lying about lying? He does lie after all
>>744344390SF2 had throwloops then they added throw softening to super turbo to lessen their impact.When Alpha released the game had wakeup throw invul. So did SF3.Then SF4 didnt have that but it had the retarded crouch tech OS.Then SFV had throwloops at first, but then they removed them.And suddenly SF6 has them again?The hacks in charge are so fixated on nostalgiawanking but apparently they werent interested in studying the older games at all.All the drive system mechanics also feel like they were added by someone who had the core mechanics of past SF games explained to him, but never actually touched them.
>>744346289The same punk who says people who think 6 is just 50/50 slimerush are shitters trying to cope with their lack of skill.
>>744345510Never
>>744345510he didnt say that about it.
>>744344906>Reminder there are no shortcuts.moron controlsdrive rushmai
>>744346629Punk is a funny monkey.
>>744346629Did he say this before or after he said sf6 was just 50/50 slimerush?
>>744346618Retard.
>>744346798After his crashout.
>>744346629kek lil nigga can be based sometimes.
>>744343932You are a fucking retard.
SF6 is irredeemable dogshit.
>>744344812You're in for players turning green and you not being able to react in time. Or players doing drive impact and you not being able to react in time.Apart from that, the all-time worst music, worst art direction, worst gameplay, and worst newcomers in the series. >B-But at least the netcode is goodSure, as long as you're not on wifi.
>>744347237>Or players doing drive impact and you not being able to react in time.you can't be serious
>>744347237Holy unc post.
>>744347659sorry you never got to experience a fighting game that wasn't shit lil bro
>>744343424The entire esports mindset is retarded. The problems with Drive Rush--that is, whether you'll like it or not, to put it in more neutral language--are evident even in low-level, casual play. You don't need to be winning regional tournaments or even be Master rank online to ascertain what DR imposes on the game and have an opinion on it.I like SF6 more than a lot of people seem to, but it's just the truth. It's a video game. It's fun or it isn't. Most players whether they're terrible, decent, or outstanding do not give a fuck about any Evo winner. None of them are worth invoking or referencing at all.
the thread was posted on sfg which explains the sudden influx of braindead 6 drones.
>>744347850people quote good players shitting on the game because all the retarded shiteaters call anybody who criticizes it bad at the game.and in the same breath they will say that the game is actually made fro the greater masses when a top player calls it ass.schrödingers shit game.
>>744347438Even pro players can only react around like half part of the time. It's literally a jumpscare mechanic that only make everyone not want to poke as much as previous games.
>>744347961daigo is in his 40s, his reaction time sucks and he admits it himselfhe makes up for it with everything elseI haven't been caught off guard by a di in hundreds of hours yet daigo would still whoop my ass
terrible retards will say that they have a good success rate when it comes to reacting to DI and then get jumped on all day because they used all of their tiny brain power on looking for the red glow
>>744348167I accept your concession
>>744348265retard
>2026: Fondly remembered as one of the best Street Fighters everI have not seen a single person making this claim.USF4 however is something I see often people wishing it would make a comeback due to how hype the matches were.Pic related is evident of that, in fact I bet if EVO 2027 had USF4 and SFV as main stage people would flock to USF4 way more.
there is literally no good player who doesnt get caught by DI yet we have hard stuck 1400mr at best boy genius checking all of them in hundreds of hours right in this thread
>>744348367This cope again. There have been many attempts to revive SFIV, and all of them failed. The game is done and only 09ers refuse to accept it. Shit, even posers would prefer to pretend to play 3rd Strike over SFIV.
>>744348105>I haven't been caught off guard by a di in hundreds of hours yet daigo would still whoop my assHoly fuark, we got ourselves a prodigy. Post your DI stats now to show the haters.
>>744348561desu its easier to be a turd strike poser because its still actively played and managed to attract a new generation of players.4 is dead.
>complaining about DI, of all thingskekkleswho let the bronzies out?
>can't play footsies to save his life>can't anti-air to safe his life>can't even do a quarter circle motion to save his life>thinks he's godlike because he manages to react to one in every five drive impactsI know retarded zoomers have it hard, but the real question is, do THEY know they have it hard?
>>7443248523S was pretty close to the ideal button feel in fighting games because the character size to screen ratio is near perfect. Everything feels in reach because it's so succintly compacted together, it feels like you're close together even if you're far away. Regardless of what I think of 3S as a competitive game, this is easily one of its strongest aspects, and probably the only other game I can think of that comes close is GGXX. That isn't to say ALL buttons have this, like Alex's crouching medium kick (it has a hitbox that stops short before the toe of the shoe), but most of them do. But it's mainly the screen to character size ratio. The characters in 5 are too damn small and the screen looks too big, and this on top of having shorter buttons makes it come across as stubby. >>744346796Goddamn this fucking faggot is such a loser, why is it that only black pros do this stupid fucking shit? Him and Sonicfox are fucking annoying.
>>744348745>can't play footsies to save his life>can't anti-air to save his life>can't even do a quarter circle motion to save his life>thinks the game sucks because he can't react to DI
>>744348725>tfw you are 30 years old already and can't react to DI anymore
>>744347815I lived through peak SF3 tho.
>>744347961>Half the timeIf that is true then Menard and Kazunoko would not be consistently top 3. They wouldn't even be top 8 since it's a 50/50 game as you say.
>kazunoko>consistently top3the biggest SF6 dickriders dont even play the game or follow it.
>>744349159So 2004 for one tourney?
>>744348830>3S was pretty close to the ideal button feel in fighting games because the character size to screen ratio is near perfectI don't love 3S but the game feels extremely nice on that fundamental level. The animations do a lot to make everything in that game feel as good as they do. My ideal Street Fighter is basically Hyper Fighting with 3S's level of polish in presentation.
>>744349229Check their stats. Reacting to DI means doing DI yourself for punishing them. 33% of the time they are blocking, 33% they react with their own DI, 33% of the time they get wall flat.
>>744348561>There have been many attempts to revive SFIVIf there was any I most certainly would know about it.>The game is done and only 09ers refuse to accept itI do believe that USF4 could easily make a return had Capcom made the game more readily available.That's why 3rd Strike are still popular, you can practically play them on almost every console from 6th gen onward.If Capcom re-released a new edition of SF4 with a couple of new characters, cross-play with SF6's net code (say what you will about SF6 but the online play is fucking smooth), then I could see it attracting more players.
>>744349368Mostly in arcades.
>>744349410What, are you fucking japanese? The game was dead in America.
>>744349398Which website has stats showing how many times Menard and Kazunoko hit DI?
>>744349407>If there was any I most certainly would know about it.loland SF4 is playable on PC, PS3, PS4 and PS5.insane cope from 09ers.
>>744349450>Implying there weren't 2s and 3s cabs everywhereZoomers are so funny. They think fighting games were only played in tournaments and not at your local arcade or supermarket.
>>744349229Kazunoko has never once been top 8 in sf6
>>744349462They usually show them in tournaments. Otherwise you would have to check their CFN.
SF3 cabs were in fact not everywhere, because SF3 barely sold.its why they released SFA3, to save the arcade business.
every time I see someone defend SF6 its extremely obvious that its someone with next to no time in the genre at all.
>>744349586based gameprobably why capcom kept reusing the sprites
>>744346285>People only praise Third Strike thoughWhich came out 2 years after launch.
>>744349658I have thousands of hours into SFIV and SFV and SF6 is my favorite one.
>He didn't have 3s cabs at his arcadeLet me guess, thirdie country who could only afford KoF?
>>744349736I bet you do
>>744349515Which is why SF3 is the worst sold entry in the franchise right? Because there were "cabinets everywhere" in YOUR city? Fucking idiot.
>>744349736Why?
>>744349536He's probably thinking of Kakeru, the JP equivalent to Menard. However I wouldn't post them on the same level since Menard has more Evo wins.
>>744349798kakeru fucking quit the genre.all CPT champs for SF6 quit the game.
>>744349757It must suck to be a poor thirdie. No need to lash out though.
>>744322782I hated it on release. Still hate it. The gameplay, the character models and above everything, the absolutely atrocious netcode. The OST was an absolute banger though. It has easily 20-25 amazing songs.
>>744324002Both are wrong and you're both faggots
>>744349856Kakeru was in Topanga, but he got washed.
>>744349748Yup.>>744349760It's engaging without being completely mindless. Unlike the complainers in here, I don't find the characteristic mechanics overwhelming. Also, due to the animations and sounds, landing a hit and comboing feels incredibly satisfying. It creates a highly pleasant feedback.
I played the first few months of SFV and as much as I loved the soundtrack I hated the claymation character animations and the sound effects were atrocious. The hit on block sound effect especially just sounded like shit.Could not put up with it.
>>744349494>SF4 is playable on PC, PS3, PS4 and PS5I'm aware of that, but can you cross-play between consoles and PC?Also the net code is abysmal, it's more of a headache, borderline unplayable due to the insane input delay when playing online.I still believe that a new edition will do wonders for the game with SF6 level of net code.>>744349871>The OST was an absolute banger though. It has easily 20-25 amazing songsWithout debate the saving grace for SFV.Easily top 3 in the OST department (others being 3rd Strike and Ex3).
>>744349450YouTuber opinion
>>744350078>muh crossplay>muh rollbackDelay based netcode is BASED because it's real, unlike fakery shit rollback.
>>744349859Lol kill yourself, you lived in the only shithole desperate enough to buy it, more like, while everyone else had Tekken and Virtua Fighter, the REAL expensive and hot shit.
>>744350019Based real game enjoyer.
>>744350078>I'm aware of that, but can you cross-play between consoles and PC?you cant crossplay 3s. stop with the cope.there are games with no netplay at all that see more play than SF4 these days.
>>744350019>It's engaging without being completely mindlessbad shitpost
>>744350189>no saars if you can actually afford 3s cabs you were poor unlike me we have many snk games here bloody benchodlol thirdiesAnd yes, we had Tekken too. VF was dead tho.
>>744350171>unlike fakery shit rollbackWell whatever magic Capcom used for SF6 was flawless.I can say from experience, that even playing against wifi players I did not have a bad experience at all.
>>744350189Kek owned that faggot, it's always telling who's an actual poser because they claim 3S was always popular when its the lowest point of the series financially. Even fucking EX sold better and NO ONE played that shit LMAO
>>744350019Based
>V fans are so angry that V sucks they're coming after 3S nowlol
>>744350224>not datedFor all we know, this might've taken place during the Chinese coof.
>>744350454retarded secondary
>>744350019What are the four missing cheevos?
>turd strike faggots seething randomly because anons are talking factual history?
you can tell that he is larping because he claims that VF was dead at the time when it was mogging sf3 hard.
>>744350206They're all related to team battles lolNobody played that mode.
>>744350476Whatever, I'm going to live out my life knowing that USF4 was the last decent SF game, a game that actually took skill and matches that were beyond hype no matter where those matches took, helps a lot that you have character loyalists/specialists, something not even 3rd Strike can ever claim.Enjoy your Yuns, Kens and Chuns.
The Drive system is monumentally worse than the V-System. The fact anyone can tolerate it is nothing short of amazing.
>>744350681delusional 09er
>>744349658As soon as the "Hmm you don't like this game and yet you've never won EVO" arguments come out, you can absolutely certain they have single to low double digits in the game
>3s>no character loyalistsjesus christ man I wish fighting game threads came with actual play hours attached
>>744350770We had only two 3s cabs in my city, but that was enough to play every saturday afternoon with other local kids. The most popular games were definitely KoF though. I think it was 98 and 99 were always the most crowded.
>>744350698>drive rush is worse than psuedo roman cancels with shitty installs that either barely added anything to characters or just made them obnoxiousOkay.
>>744350019>It's engaging without being completely mindlessIt's completely mindless without being engaging*
>>744350896>drive rush>not a pseudo roman cancelretard
>>744350770Go and watch any stacked top 8 high level tournament and it's essentially nothing but 3 high tier characters.Always has been, and will always will be, it's the nature of the game.
>>744350959please dont talk about games you dont know shit about.
>>744350891Oops meant for >>744350570Just because the game sold like shit didn't mean there weren't local scenes for it. Because by that logic it never would have been a thing in Japan either.
>>744349394>My ideal Street Fighter is basically Hyper Fighting with 3S's level of polish in presentation.I was with you until you mentioned Hyper Fighting.
>>744350896SF6 also got those.
>>744351057He's right though. Nobody's appearing to show you how to use a previously low tier character in completely new ways and win everything. 3rd Strike is a solved game.
>>744351201no need to samefag.
>>744350698Locking moves behind a revenge mechanic is fucking cringe annon
>>744351186its much worse.its like giving everybody ken vt1/kolin vt2 for free at round start but then also giving people a free vt install once a round on top of that.
>>744350019I don't think it's mindless but my enjoyment varies wildly on a match by match basis. I've only played around 50 hours total, though. Platinum rank. I don't hate the game but I don't feel compelled to get deeper than I am now since it would require a command of SF6-isms that I just don't care to attain.I think the game is pretty satisfying on a casual level; the animations are mostly good, the hits feel satisfying, the menus are easy to navigate and it's quick to get into a match. I just don't care for the stuff that distinguishes it all that much. I also hate the roster, but that's a different issue.
>>744351243No need to cope. Also, there's not a single argument in your post.
>>744322782It's mostly just because some people hate SF6 so much they pretend like the love SFV. Less people play this than SF2
>>744351257you are right tengu stones should be a special.
>>744351325Street Fighter peaked with SF2 to be fair, even if I think the wrong version is the most popular.
>>744351295*laughs*
>>744351257Yeah V trigger will always be worse for this
>>744322782>Fondly remembered as one of the best Street Fighters everby like 5 retards. It started out as dogshit and then became a decent game, but even the final version is a massive step down from 4
>>744322782basically the prequels effect. they came out with an even worse game, so people went back and pretended this one was masterpiece. Usually players that either started with it or got good at sf with it
>>744351186I don't think you know what a roman cancel is.
>>744351481Ironically Mai won this tournament.
>>744322782>Street Fighter III: New Generation>1997: DOA in American arcades. Some competition in NY/LA. Largely ignored for better games that don't require a 40 page FAQ from the world wide web to play.>2020+: Oh my heckin' chungus! Is that SFIII: Third Strike? Did you see Evo moment #37? I've been practicing my Urien in fightcade.Freely ignore revisionists and look-backers who adopted a game long after it mattered. They are all bandwagoners who wait for others to tell them what they should play.
If you disagree with this you're not a real SF fan btw
>>744351945alpha 3 is fucking terrible. V ism is a disgrace
>>744351945you havent played any of those games
>>744351945>Two most broken games at the toplol larpers
>>744351945Disgusting.
>>744351972Cmon man you gotta try harder than that Next time say something like "Alpha 3 has the "MUH EZ COMBO V ISM"" to get more replies to the bait.
>>744351795I meant the retarded install that is Blanka level 2
>>744351945Daigo would agree but say SF3 is garbage tier.
>>744351945Only LARPers disagree
>>744351257Valid except for SF6 It belongs in its own tier below garbage
>>744351945>Can't enjoy Cross Tekken for what it isIf you ignore the gems, it's a fine simplified version of SFIV tag.
SFxT is genuinely a much better game than most in that dogshit list.
>>744350019I also know a LoL player with 15k hours into the game who is bronze.How many top 8s did you get with all that time put into them?
>>744352069That's a super install you idiot. Shut the fuck up.
>>744352335>>744352348I know for a fact neither of you played it because the gems are the least of that game's trash problemsImagine defending the game with the PANDORA mechanic, the worst mechanic in any fighting game out there
>>744352730oh no, a mechanic so weak that nobody fucking uses it.thats totally on the same level as all the retarded game breaking dogshit that was put into the high tiers in that garbage list.what youtuber told you that it was this epic problem with the game?
I think Street Fighter just sucks in general.The good games in the series only became good after dozens of iterations and the bad games just will stay bad forever (like SF6). Capcom can't capture the lighting in the bottle again because they're fucking retarded. So they keep chasing the same shit, look at how many games are still using the Shadaloo/World Warrior fags even though several of them are irrelevant and serve no purpose in the game or in the story. Why the fuck do they keep bringing back Honda? Why are Blanka, Dee Jay and Dhalsim always invited to return? How come they barely include any of the actual interesting characters from Alpha, SF3 or Final Fight? This series is completely fucking washed, and with SF6 selling well despite being total dog shit in every way possible it is consigned to failure forevermore. Japanese Vtuber fags have officially killed this series.
>>744352828Yeah you didn't play it
>>744352856>look at how many games are still using the Shadaloo/World Warrior fagThat's just fighting games in general. I'm not sure what you're expecting.
>>744352945lmao
>>744322782Zoomer larping really. Both game are nigger trashfire. Everyone with a sound mind left when V shit all over the IP. Now it's full of actual zoomniggers with low IQ and japanese children.
>>7443530144*
>>744351945>USFIV > SSFIVretard Ultra ruined the game
>>744353131Also disgusting.
>>744322861/thread
>>744327913Reminder.
I don't know what makes a fighting game good but I know that I despise drive rush. Feels like the whole game revolves around it. Back to casual sfa3
>>744353131anyone who places turd strike above C tier is wrong.universal parry is the worst design in history, it's a meme and it's spammed in modern games because it creates le meme esports moments hehe esports he did le parry haha
Perfect roster
Some of you genuinely love to pretend SFIV and USFIV are not completely different from each other or that vanilla was some kind of miracle fighting game with zero faults.
>>744325954There has literally never ever been a perfect fighting game on its first iteration. >But SFVIThere has never ever been a perfect fighting game on its perfect iteration.
>>744352730>PandoraDumb "I'm about to lose, fuck it" gimmick that allows for comebacks that you never have to use.I don't think I ever actually sincerely activated Pandora, all I remember is the violet glowing skin.Putting SFXT with SF1 is just ignorant baiting. It's worlds apart from SFEX1 which is in your C tier. That game is barely playable, it's like the Battle Arena Toshinden of SF games. It's objectively worse than Rival Schools.
>>744349394>My ideal Street Fighter is basically Hyper Fighting with 3S's level of polish in presentation.THIS IS JUST FUCKING STREET FIGHTER V.
>>744353675You wish
>>744353721Tell me what's iconic about Hyper Fighting. Name the signature elements of the game. Now I fucking DARE you to tell me they don't exist in V.
>>744353675I never played SFV. I checked out of video games in general from 2008 to like 2019, and by that point SFV had such a negative reputation I never bothered with it. That's not a comparison I've ever seen anyone make though, so I'm guessing you're in the minority there. I honestly don't even see how it could possibly be the case.
>>744353770V trigger is trash and V will never be good because of it
>>744353770someone who asks for hyper fighting will not dislike SFV for what it lacks, but rather for what it has on top of it.he is asking for a game with no meter mechanics period.just very strong basic tools.
>>744353675HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
kill yourself nubi
>you now remember completing hard survival for extra colors
>>744353398V-ism is worse than drive rush will ever be.
>>744354208nah.
>>744353443Nah it's fun and cool. The only people who think 3S is bad are people who suck at it.
>>744354270t. 2 hours in turd strike
>>744354270The only thing is bad is Hugo ruining the game besides that, it's almost a 9/10 game
Normals are still stubby trash, sfV killed normals and footsies
>>744354384literally the most footsie heavy SF game.
>>744354235Ya
>>744354294You don't have to no life a game to consider it fun. Crazy concept i know nigger, wait until you learn about empathy instead of shooting other people.
>>744322895God that was such a good slap. 2016 was such a gay feminist era where nobody outside of 4chan or youtubers with 8k subs complained about censorship shit like this.
>>744354523>not even denying itlmao
>>744354474no.v-ism doesnt rape neutral, doesnt rape hitconfirms out of the game, is way harder to use and doesnt refill for free every round.you probably have no time put into alpha3.
Pirating every single fighting game until they drop the faggot ass vbucks and battlepass clones. I have friends to play IRL with so I don't need to use your shitty rollback netcode to enjoy the games. Pirating Tokon and its shitty dlc next week too.
>>744354549>doesn't understand open forums >takes a random post personallyActual subhuman, glad to have gigantic shitters like you here. Blacks brains just don't work in the same way as a regular person and you can't convince me otherwise.
>>744354715dont care about secondary posts
>>744322782It's the SF cycle. SFIV had the same reception when it was hot, and there tons of fake Third Strike fans glazing that over SFIV. When SFV was hot, SFIV was being glazed. Just look at the early LTG streams. The FGC hates him, but he's 1:1 with the average FGC player in terms of taste. Back when he was really active on SFIV, he would hate on SFIV and act as if he's a pro SFIII player. When he got got SFIII Online when it was on PS Now, he played it for a week before dropping it and returning to SFIV. When SFV was hot, he would talk shit about SFV and pretend that SFIV was hot shit despite the many hours of footage consisting of LTG bashing SFIV. When Now that SF6 is the hot game, it's SFV's turn to be glazed. But don't worry, SF6 will be glazed when SFVII is out. Like with any other popular series, it's a cycle and gamers are lemmings.
>>744354771nah. even your LTG example is shit. he played SFV a lot and he barely plays SF6.same way sanford kelly was praising SF6 when it came out because he hated 5 so much but then he later admitted that he isnt playing it at all.SF6 extinquished the flame of passion for so many.
>>744354746sfv and 6 and the secondary games, killed everything the fanbase and company built for decades albeit, all in favour of clout chasing and shitty fotm gameplay
>>744354887didnt read
>>744354919We know you can't read bike stealer.
>>744354864It also kindled the flame of passion for many. Barely any new players picked up SFV. It's nice seeing new names in the scene thanks to SF6.
09ers are literally the worst generation.all just stream monsters.I played in some SFV tournaments this year. Did you play SF4 at all?
>>744355000>thanks to social media and vtubersFixed that for you.
I just bought SF6 in anticipation for Tifa and because of the big sale. Last SF game I played was Alpha 3 and only solo casually on PS1. The only other fightan I played was SC2, also just casually with friends. Where do I start here? World tour? Training mode? When will I be ready to jump online? I kind of want to pick up Elena since she's sexo, but I heard she's bad and should just play Sagat instead?
>>744355000>It also kindled the flame of passion for many. doesnt feel that way at all. game barely gets talked about anywhere.
>>744355016I'm thankful for not being black or a Nguyen, i can simply mute their posts on X with a single click and skip all their babble. Then i come to 4chinz and read the same copy pasted garbage here and i can't even mute it. What's is the fucking point in keeping this site alive.
>>744354864Nobody's stopping Sanford or LTG from playing games they actively enjoy. It sounds they're just going through the motions because they're getting old and outgrew fighting games, but lack the insight to actually admit it.Also, LTG doesn't represent the fighting game scene at all and the fact you bring him up like any respectable player speaks volumes about you and your intentions.
>>744355153This is a cope answer that has nothing to do with what was said.On top of that the post I replied to literally used LTG as an example. You are a fucking retard.
>>744355124Facts don't care about your feelings.
>>744355196>no argumentsI accept your concession, nigger.
>>744355201there's nearly no content being made for SF6. stream numbers are abysmal.even here you dont see any lobbies for it at all when both SF4 and 5 had tons of tournaments all the time on 4chan.
>>744355261go back to school
>>744349586Arcades were already on the decline by the time SF3 came out, everyone was begging Capcom for more console ports, in fact, people were really mad with them when they re-released SFA3 for the Anniversary Collection back a few years ago and the version they included was the vanilla arcade one and not Upper or the PSP port.>>744349678They kept reusing them because the fighter's division budget was gutted. Out of all the fighters they made in the 1990s, the only ones to make it across the turn of the millenium was Street Fighter and MVC, Capcom wasnt even using its own hardware anymore when they made MVC2 and CVS2
>>744355269>even here you dont see any lobbies for it at all when both SF4 and 5 had tons of tournaments all the time on 4chan.Nah, faggots always dodged in here. Nothing about that has changed. If anything, it has become even worse because you don't play the games you complain about, so there's no point challenging anyone.>stream numbersEnd your pathetic life.
>>744354771the SF cycle bs was made up by the SFV shills to shut down any criticism for that flaming turd, but it's completely fake.there were some really old fucks who criticized SFIV on release but they didn't compare it to turd strike, that's because turd strike has more players now than it did back then lmao, it was compared to SF2.either way it was extremely well received by 99.99% of people, it brought daigo back from quitting fighting games and a lot of other people, and it brought in tons of new players, did SFV and SFVI do this? I don't think so.SFV made a lot of people quit, SFVI made some new people join through vtubers paid by crapcom, but nothing on the scale of SFIV.I remember back when youtube didn't suck there was a show about a guy trying to learn SFIV to compete in a local tournament, it was like a low budget tv show, I always searched for it again but couldn't find it.But anyway SFIV was a global phenomenon at the time, even casuals who didn't play fighting games knew of it.
>>744355153No one "outgrows" hobbies as long as you can afford to be a part of the hobby you tremendous faggot. It's more like fighting games are complete fucking dogshit now and no one want's to play a discord fighter. People simply moved on. There's a reason why you see 0 SF6 / Strive 4chan tournaments or lobbies when we used to have them weekly/monthly for SFIV and undernight SF6 niggers will always be the biggest larpers on the site.
>>744355360>Nah, faggots always dodged in herenewfag why are you making shit up?
>>744355368Nice attempt at history revisionism, 09er.
>>744355407Post your CFN then.
>>744348367pretty sure this fraud was a platinum shitter in sfv and then became ultimate master or some shit with blanka in slime 6. he also has a financial incentive to push sf6 hard so of course hes going to post shit like this. the entire scene is fake and gay and fraudulent
>>744355487make a SFV lobby and I'll join.
>>744354130Nope, even normal had me bored out of my mindI only did the Easy ones for everyone and stopped
>>744355512shemaley specifically, is very gay.
>>744355398You absolutely outgrow hobbies, you stupid nigger. People change, and so do their pastimes. It would be crazy if they wouldn't. The reason because you don't see lobbies in here anymore because you dumbasses would rather mouth off about new games than playing, well, literally anything. /v/ is the cesspit most critical of SF6, so why would it have lobbies? Retard. It's just /v/ being /v/ - don't play games, just complain about them.
>>744348648>4 is dead.Capcom killed the rollback netcode and the interest disappeared after that. SF3 doesn't compete with SF6, SFIV does.
>>744355368nice essay retard no its spouted by people who have no in depth experience with the games and want to rationalize why current game is hated>SFV made a lot of people quit09ers aren't people/jive was still bigger than 4cope
>>744355716>Capcom killed the rollback netcode ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????I'm so tired of retards here, man.
>>744354657t. V-ism abuser
>>744355709>You absolutely outgrow hobbies, if you are 12
>>744355515See what I mean? Already in dodge mode lol
nothing is stopping people from buying SFV (on sale btw) and playing it right now
>>744355810where's the lobby?
>>744355795+ 30You have to be seriously autistic to believe people will forever do the same things until they die.
>>744348367I wish i haf gillstolemyride's rant (enormous 09er who was involved with the biggest sf4 revival community) on twitter saying everybody kept talking about how they'd rather play 4 but nobody joined cashprize tournaments so he quit trying
>>744355828critical player mass does.there's no point in booting up when I cant face strong players, and the strong players dissipated.
>>744355846Where's your CFN?
>>744355709everybody was shitting on SFV nonstop and the game still had lobbies and tournaments here.stop with the coping.
>>744355929so you dont want to play.
>>744355881its been posted here.
>>744355753>jive was still bigger than 4maybe in your retarded 16er dreams
>>744355867>25 own a shitty ibanez>35 own really expensive gibson>25 own a shitty gun>35 own a really expensive rifle>repeat ad nauseum with your hobby of interest. You don't outgrow hobbies, Otherwise we wouldn't be here. Fighting games are gone for people that actually like them.
>>744355937Lying isn't nice.
>>744356012you 6 niggers are not only new to SF you are clearly new to 4chan too.
>>744356002avatar feels like a proper fighter.all the other series are raped though.
>>744356001Bodied that nigger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCAKS7ek630new content update just droppedoh no... dont look at the comments, dixxers....
>>744356002Oh please, stop with your posturing you pathetic wimp. I grew up with SF2 and I'm still here. That doesn't mean it has to be the same for everyone. Plenty of people take up new hobbies, or simply grow tired. Denying that only makes you look autistic, or you simply lack life experience.You should take that gun of yours and shoot yourself in the temple.
>>744356001>the game that made you buy updates if you wanted an active online sold moreI was there and everybody was calling it a dogshit practice but still paid.can you remind me of the evo numbers compared to 4? since everybody quit and all that
>>744356176Anon you realize that you being here after so long literally proves me right?
>>744356272>That doesn't mean it has to be the same for everyone. It only proves you lack reading comprehension.
interesting how so many lost their passion specifically with sf6.
>>744356467If they were truly passionate, they would still be playing.
>>744356467 game is asscasuals love itcapcom will never go backwhy bother
>>744356190SF5 had a re-release as well, the only difference was that you could shill out more money with the gay passes over the years>can you remind me of the evo numbers compared to 4? since everybody quit and all thatGood thing you asked baboon, because SF4 numbers were consistently rising while SF5 numbers were consistently falling.SF4 had 1000 entrants in 2009 when gaming was considered dumb nerd shit, while SF5 released at the peak of esports, when League of Legends was getting the most amount of viewers any esport ever had and every NPC started pretending that they are interested in games.You are trying to twist this into saying that SF5 was such a good game that it had a lot of players, but in reality half the fucking evo entrants dropped after 1 year, just like I said.Dimwit 16er, next you will tell me why did only 100 people join early 2000s fighters, did those games suck?
casuals hated the game because it didn't have a stupid story mode and arcade mode at launch. it's as simple as that.
>>744356549>SF5 had a re-release as welldisingenuous bullshit like that is all 09ers have.
>>744356467NO BUT U DONT GET IT TYRONE (36) AND LIL CHIKICHANGWANT (12) FROM JP ARE NOW HIGH MASTER THAT MAKES IT THE MOST CHUNGUS GAME EVER ITS A MIRACLE GAME!!11!1
>>744356549>SF5 had a re-release as well, the only difference was that you could shill out more money with the gay passes over the yearsthats the dumbest shit I've heard this week
>>744355398I've dropped hobbies and developed new ones multiple times in my life, and I'm not exactly old.
>>744356549>well the numbers suck ass but its ok and when sfV numbers vaporize them well mental gymnastic and so it was actually not bigger!you're insane, but mostly retardedalso batting for such a dogshit rancid game like vortex 4 is beyond me
>>744356596check the image cuckboiand while I'm at it, SF5 ended with 1,320 fucking entrants at evo, the lowest it ever had, while SF4 ended with 2,227, the highest it ever had.where are those people that quit the baboon asks? where are they?
oh and btw I would rape you in 4 despite hating it/not playing it
>>744356736 young people are the ones that constantly change cause they don't really know what they want. I know what i want and i'm afraid it's not shart fighter 6 or playing SFIV with delay netcode.
>>744356790read this cuck boi >>744356790you SF5 filth are pathetic, flaming turd of a game, it's so bad it makes SF6 look good in comparison
>>744356802sad
>>744350019>It's engaging without being completely mindlesslmao
>>744356124But Capcom, I was already playing the Onimusha franchise. You don't have to force more advertisements on me.
>>744356870bwahahahhaha you're so retarded
>>744356881clown game
>>744355512>>744355554https://youtu.be/_2y3F41Fazo?is=eUB3bc_OsysNMYQylol forgot about this
even the most stupid diehard 09ers at the time didnt defend paid updates, theres no way you actually played
>>744356881yeah... I'm thinking fighting games are dead
>>744328127you're not gonna believe this anon but everyone said the same thing about SFIV (2009)people were getting routinely mindbroken by auto correct DP and the absurdly forgiving comeback system with the ultra metergo back further to the hyper fighting days and you'd find people were quitting over supers being added to the gamepeople have a hard time adjusting to change and crapcom wants street fighter to be as broadly available as possible to a global marketsf5 was a total mess for a multitude of other reasons, however
>>744353906Correct. I don't think HF is perfect, but it delivers what I want out of a fighting game. I don't mind some universal systems but I prefer their impact be modest. I actually don't mind supers, but I still prefer HF over ST.
>>744357124They eventually adjusted the ultra damage but yeah nah, comeback mechanics are shit, always have been always will be.
hop on
>>744356679more like lil takeshi 12 and big takeshi 36 like it while tryone plays mk1
>>744357324I play when online tournaments get hosted. Only caught two this year though.
>>744328127>>mocked for being too casual compared to sf4 and for being designed to let timmy beat daigoIronically it was a timmy statement, whereas actual pros are saying it for 6
All I know is that niggas who were gold stuck with negative wr% in V are now beating world level players. The "new wave" of V pros were actually sitting at around 4-5Kpp in 4 (which wasn't a good metric but still pretty indicative). Now I'm not gonna say 6 gives you superpowers but I'm just dropping irrefutable facts here.
Stealing the last possible post of the thread to troof nook that SFfags are bottom-feeding coons that wear the utter worst of both tendies and snoys on their shoulder and should unironically get the MLP treatment on here and beyond if possible.>shoved /fgg/ into an actual dozen other generals with forced brand war shitposting>can't even lurk /sfg/ in peace because of forced game war shitposting>shamelessly crosspost their forced brand and game war shitposting onto plebbit because they invented some fake-ass opposition to them there in 2014>enshittified SRK to death>birthed Lowtiergod, DSP, Sajam, BroskiGPT, and opened the door for Tyler1 and VTumors to waste tournament time on gay exhibition shit>stole Mike Ross' soul, mindraped Gootecks into taking the grifterpill>change idols more often than they change clothes, will shove how much of a cheating junglenigger MenaRD was at first under the rug to suck his dick now, don't even cut a glance at the other SFV greats like Tokido, Nuckledu, and LI Joe anymore, and will call everyone whose hayday was SF4 uncs>will post cherrypicked ugly faces from other games at each other like a bunch of degenerate gacha chinks>will hype up a modern movie (read: pozzed incoherent slop) for the sake of it>will hype up proven rushjobs like ST and 3S as the OGs despite proving themselves that those games are such messes that ST Balrog is a grappler and TS Alex has no tournament wins after thirty years>would scream bloody murder if any of the world warriors weren't going to make the base roster until SF5 proved they were blowing hot air and nothing else>have the videogame equivalent of fag misery to an extent that NOBODY can ever be happy lest it make SF look badTotal SF player death.
>>744357885TRVKE
>>744357885>will hype up proven rushjobs like ST and 3S as the OGs despite proving themselves that those games are such messes that ST Balrog is a grappler and TS Alex has no tournament wins after thirty yearsI mean most fighting games aren't well-balanced.
>>744322782what happens is every street fighter is worse than the last. sf4 was the last time street fighter was good
