https://youtu.be/5Ncuote9ADo?si=HKbyzl9XKHDKpRJPThis is getting out of hand
>>744376495
>>744376495everyone knows right-wingers aren't creative
>>744376495Good. Nothing matters in life anymore besides porn. And AI is the best invention in 200 years
>>744376570But... Stellar Blade isn't porn...
>>744376495>>744371830
>>744376661FROG GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD
>>744376660But it should be. Unfortunately they want to sell to stupid Snoys and trannies that never liked it to begin with console version. If it was PC only, itd probably be an eroge
>>744376495Completely and utterly destroyed any hype I could've had for the sequel or faith in shift up. Seriously, what were they thinking?
If chinamen can hire nips to make music for them, what stopping these gimchis? I thought they are successful?
>>744376661Oh wow, the newfag underages from India are continuing.Still laughing over that one idiot who thought that China creaming itself over AIslop is some sort of "win".
>>744376661>sale = dead tranniesmore like every sale = more slop = dead industry
>>744376661kys frogcuck
>>744376723You had faith in something from Worst Korea?
>>744376660
>>744376568>right wingers In this case it is Koreans.
Your enemies hate eating shit! Eat up, piggy! Yum yum! You don't want to be on the same level as your enemies, do you?
>>744376495ACTUALLY AI IS LE GOOD
>>744376793Ya u right bro. They should buy Soi of War Laufey and support real artists
>>744376793Chuds and trannies should just team up as they clearly both want to just destroy everything good in the world and watch it burn just because their lives are miserable
>>744376661love yourself frogbvll
>>744376570Based coomgod
>>744376661B-but my valid trans art...
>>744376495This is shameless bro
>>744376495Threadly reminder that south Korea was an african tier bombed out shithole in living memory. They still have the mindset of a third world nation. This is exactly what I would expect from some retarded afrivsn american rapper getting into game dev.
>>744376546Literally nobody is pro-AI besides MAGAtards and even that is only because they're brainless bots running off the "oppose the popular sentiment regardless of what it is" algorhythm rather than any anything to do with AI.
>>744376940evie needs my cock STAT
>trying to shitflinging to politic to make jannies delete the threadMicrodick moment
so luddite xissters we need a new narrative, this is the promotion of terrorism imo
>>744377015I will just string 10 1-second clips together
>>744377015did they use seedance 2.0?
>>744376723You have to take a step back and actually think without your dick for once. This studio made its money with a shitty, shameless pornified gacha. They then released a shameless pornified clone of nier automata. These people are not making high art, they are sewage merchants. Why did you have any expectations beyond an ai porn game you pirate and jerk off to, that is clearly their target audience.
>>744376949Additional reminder that Worst Korea is just a slave nation of America and the United Nations that ALSO got hijacked behind the scenes by a feminist cult.
>>744376723kek these animations are complete ass
>>744376661/thread
>>744376495It would be fine if devs acknowledge that they're selling mass produced machine generated pig feed with not an ounce of effort and soul while pricing it accordingly, but we both know they're going to sell this jeet generated slop for 80 bucks and the goys will buy it too.
>>744377109in house tool for their new AI studio
>>744376793goodthe game industry right now deserves it
>>744377198jp,kr and cn love the ai slop so thats a lot of people, wukong itself proved you don't need the west anymore
>>744376723>trying to ape the Sekiro/Genichiro/Isshin arena but slop it up 100xyikes
>>744376495actual good use of AI, and it saves so much moneyno gives a shit about your opinion, in a couple of years there will be only AI games, so you should preemptively choose the good ones, but of course you are a chud so you will be left behind lol
>>744376819Even with their gacha shit, Project Moon are still the only Korean studio that make anything worth a shit. How is an entire country THAT uncreative? Even in the early 2000's, despite their scene being tiny as shit they had some genuinely weird and experimental stuff but they seemingly gave up on it.
>>744376661fpbp (fourth post best post)
>>744376495AI will save the world from media being full of ugly american mysterygender mutts. thats why the devils are so upset.
>>744377283good morning saar
>>744377283It's an advert that makes their game look shitty and lazy. I'd say it's a complete failure and actually the worst possible use of AI from an objective perspective.This is like mcdonalds advertising their food with clips of chicken feet being crushed and bleached into a chicken nugget.
>>744377373ThisAi is a gift from jesus himself
>>744377134>what it feels like to have blue hair, a bluesky account, being on HRT for 9 months, and having a 40000$ debt in liberal arts studies
>Producer: Claude>Lyric: ChatGPT>Singer: Suno>Video: Seedance
>A good use of AI is when it caters to my porn-addicted cattle brain
>>744377198Yeah even original stellar blade being priced at $70 feels wrong, it's just worse Automata
>>744377301something something bugmen
>>744377435that's because you have strong prejudices, meanwhile the world is moving on, and no one will not use AI in a couple of years, so you will be that angry old guy who hates everything just because and you will not even remember why you hate itand the best part, you will miss out on so much
>>744377559most luddites just can't the fact that they are a bunch of whiney losers on the internet with no real influence over the powers that be
>>744377559>because you have strong prejudicesLmao.
>there are cucks defending this trashman...
>>744377301>communist dictatorship in the north>capitalist dystopia where companies like Samsung owns housing, is half the stock market and controls the government in the south>it is their national character to join lines even when they have no idea what people are lining up for>it is their national character to throw trash all over the street so long as someone else started the pile>cult capital of the world>plastic surgery capital of the world>only produce degenerate media>they whine about japan like woke Africans while also being hyper chuds who freak out over female hand signals>as soon as they discover the stock market their entire population triples down on overleveraged bets that immediately creates a gigantic boom and bubble pop.Third world country with the minds of children. I dont know who brainwashed these people into such a self destructive state.
>>744376570Not really a big deal. Cultural difference. Majority of the east doesn't see AI as some terrible boogeyman like the west does, and that includes Korea where Shift Up is based.If they want to use AI to mess with their own assets, that is their prerogative.
>>744376495I don't get it, AI peddlers love to say they're above artists for being entitled egotistical faggots that only want attention, but they always try to post their sloppy creations in every community they can, like here we have the Evie schizo, in Mass Effect threads we have the Miranda schizo, etc.People who obviously always wanted the attention and the feeling of accomplishment that comes with creating things and people recognizing their job, but without putting in any effort.>"No i don't care about that"The mere act of posting something you made (or AI made for you lol) signals a wish for fulfillment and recognition.AI is only liked by boomers, jeets and righ wing people that somehow had a really bad artists piss on their cereal, years ago i wouldn't have thought those groups of people had anything in common, but now they do, they love AI, lol.It's also clear as fuck Shift Up is shooting themselves in the foot, maybe it won't make a dent yet, but it will when they implement this more heavily on to Nikke.It's crazy to me that they would do this, Evie should be used to be fostering fanart, cosplays, all things need of real human work, otherwise they all get lost in the AI sludge, if they don't stop this, by the time Stellar Blade 2 comes out, there won't be a single human being with an internal monologue in the fandom.They need to be smart like Capcom, they use AI in ways very few can detect, and only to speed up development, not to produce the funny little things that should get you closer to your customer, like this music video should have been.>TLDR:They should use AI to speed up development in non-visual things, not in the little fun things that should be used to connect with their audience, it is demoralizing.
>>744377748repost slop, did you gen this jeet?>>744377449
>>744377447>>744377751>pajeet rage
she cute
>>744377834evie needsa dickin
>>744377751Liberia exists, you can move there and indulge in all your self destructive retardations if you please.
>>744377748ai post
>>744377283>actual good use of AI, and it saves so much moneyRetarded opinion, they should use AI for sketching out their ideas and monkey tier tasks, not go full retard and use it for the end product that will go through a a varied number of eyes that might or might not find AI sludge appalling.
AI GODS STAY WINNING
>>744376940how can you not cringe when watching this slop?
>>744377526>I like AI when it does what I like.You figured it out retard-kun. We dont even need AI anymore if we can just harness your superintelligence.
>>744377893More like AI JEETS STAY LOSING
>>744377817>rage
>>744377930You lost hard lmao, jeet means victory btw.
japanese and korean comment are praising this but westroon are sending death threats
>>744377935Yes, rage. Especially amusing how you had a total meltdown over a nigga just stating facts.
>>744376495I mean, Stellarfags worship AIslop. It's okay when chingchongs do it.
>>744376495I don't see the issue, Kojima and co. already is doing this as well.
>>744377559>you will miss out on so muchT.zoomer rotting in a basement while furiously jerking off to 10 second clips of ai generated porn and kpopI'm so jealous of you.
>>744377301Korea produced the greatest turn based game ever made.
>>744377981Where is chinamen AI music video?
>>744376661troons have made your hardware increase prices by at least 5x? troons made 80 dollar games the standard?If AI is supposed to make things cheaper, how come everything just gets more expensive?
>>744377971>corpo bootlickers are praising corporate slop, this is a win!I thought the chimpouts japs had over emulation, SKG and decomps already established their opinions are worthless.
>>744377975>meltdownexcept I didn't?I'm laughing at you, because you are left behind, you are a failed artist, and everyone else can enjoy great things, except you
>>744376661Nigga the trannies left this game for good 2 months ago, for them this is victory, you're alienating even the centrists or right leaning people that have any artistic integrity.>>744377776>>744377885Hey AIjeets, just a heads up, only leftists use your insults against you, if you're gonna suck AI dick at least own it.
>>744377892Why would a gacha company not cut corners wherever possible to maximize profit? Their entire business model revolves around exploiting losers and gambling addicts to avoid having to make a good game. You're acting like their target audience isn't the lowest common denominator for some reason.
>>744377204No way some game company is leading video gen tech. Is shift up actually pretty big? Most likely the ai studio is just proompters and touch up slaves.
>>744377971Because troonery is less popular in the east
>>744378009>continues raging, this time adding in "UR LE ARTIST!!!!" screaming as wellPost hand dungeater.
>>744378045>he's angry no one gave af about his ai slop paragraphsbitchless and untalented, average jeet
>>744376495i liked the first game but why did they do this lmao
>>744378004>If AI is supposed to make things cheaper, how come everything just gets more expensive?
>>744378103kek
>>744378054their head designer for nikke uses AI regularly, even posts it on their twitter.
>>744378103Hand. But please actually wash it first, dung eater.
>AItards have Aquajeet on their ranks and they don't see anything wrong with itThis is just baffling lmao, i get owning the trannies on twitter, but what purpose does it serve here?Just the "sense of accomplishment" that comes with posting this sludge and some retard in here saying he gooned to it?
>>744378153Hand.
Based ai bros liking the kino
>>744376940>>744377015Can't wait for the future where teenage girls walking around in skin tight latex suits is normalized.Hope I live to see it.
>>744378004AI makes things cheaper for the corporate overlordsthey get to save tons of money on labor, you arent seeing a cent of it though
bizarre move from a western perspective but asians like AI
>>744378098i'm not sure if you understand what a rhetorical question is at this point, much less the intent behind it.
>>744378139>>744378139here, I'm sure you will enjoy this https://files.catbox.moe/44pjdo.png
>the studio who made an entire game with AI is using AIwow stop the presses
>>744376661YWNBW
>when even Japanese companies running on the power of cup ramen and hope can still output real, genuine, artistic music video promos for their gameshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGmuikJ1XeMKorea and China are nations of scammers, forever and ever.
>>744378103Kek, he leaves in the assumption that he'll make money off ai slop.
>>744378009>and everyone else can enjoy great thingsWhich great things?The AI slop prompted by the fat retard that always flood these threads?I haven't seen a new real Evie fanart in weeks, only AI slop that all looks the same.
>>744378254>posting this when you got BTFO in the previous thread
>>744378270>only AI slop that all looks the same.so it should look different?
>>744376495This shit makes me hate the "people" behind AI more than AI itself, it just enables objectively stupid decisions like a fucking music video no-one asked for.They'd waste time and money to produce this from scratch it, regardless, if they hadn't developed a magic button to do the same but shitter.
I have still yet to see anyone make anything worthwhile with AI here. You'd think with all the power at your fingertips people would be shilling the hell outta their videos/games/music/etc etc here. But they don't.
AI Bros dont buy AI games. Just as much as troons dont buy games. They are the same.
>>744377447Your bogeyman that is as the foundation of 100% of your arguments is kind of stale. The trannies are all dead. Do you want to try something new? Maybe a chat bot can reccomend something for you.
>>744376495Meh, I'll still play the game. Every company wether they admit it or not is using AI. They blamed the first game for this. They blamed Expedition 33 for this. Is at a point where the regular consumer just doesn't give a shit.
>>744377745Her assets look pretty good to me. They should use more AI.
I can guarantee you every single game who came out in the last year used AI, even if just for textures
>>744378310that's the part you don't get, it would cost millions if they actually made it by hand, but now it costs a few hundreds, and it looks the same15 years ago you would celebrate this because of the quality, but now you can only think it's AI and it's bad because the epic social media influencers said it's badremember that time a guy posted real Monet art and claimed it's AI slop and every single one of you retards went on tirades explaining why it's so absolutely terrible, while it was actually a real Monet painting? LMao
>>744378407britbros what are you doing
>>744378407When this site removed the ip counter it signalled a desire to become a bot infested shithole. These stats are meaningless.
>>744377748That's you dude. The part where you see normal interactions and start attributing some forced pushed, that's something that exists in your mind as a mentality of your own creation. This retarded notion that you're somehow not allow to engage with the field you're critical of is beyond intellectually dishonest.So because artists are egotistical and entitled, anyone who views them as such, isn't allowed to ever discuss AI generated images? Give me a fucking break. You're working on sloppy circular logic.
>>744378275You posted Concord and said it's the only other alternative to the pinch-emoji sludge in the OP.You have a micro penis btw. It is so small it can fit inside the pinch-emoji and still have plenty of room to spare.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcUVQRIYu6c
>>744377751>I can't fathom what it left when you remove gacha, porn and AI.
>>744378310If someone made a music video of your favorite game character five years ago, you would be screaming in delight. Just admit it, you are a luddite
>>744378050>Why would a gacha company not cut corners wherever possible to maximize profit?Because they don't need to, they're already cutting corners in gamedev, you want them to start cutting corners in the things that should be organic to connect with their community.>>744378050>You're acting like their target audience isn't the lowest common denominator for some reasonOh they are, but this isn't a Gacha game, it's a supposed AAA game, priced as such, $60plus btw.I get that you AI people want a future where everyone can fart out a "game" or "fanart" or "music" with the less effort, but why pay these hacks in the first place then?They're not even developing the best AI models, in fact this shitty Evie video looks worse than shit generated on Gemini...
>>744378454most anons that post here are pseuds
Just a reminder that every single person in this world is using AI, be it for personal stuff or for their jobs, the only difference is that some people are open about it.
we're still being surprised when the CEO that says he likes AI is using AImove on
>>744376495Troons on suicide watch
>>744378494They'd rather people be offended now than closer to launch. Also they're testing the waters to see if they can get away with it.
>>744378453thirdies don't have the mental capacity to be autistic enough to care about IP counts
Do normies have brains?
>>744378426Yes, that's how the appraisal of worthless things works. Did you think a monet had any inherent value? It's a bunch of pigment mushed into a canvas, at some point people value it highly and at others it's barely worth 5 bucks. At some point a plastic sculpture would have been a rare and wonderous thing, now it's treated like landfill garbage.AI is the death of art as a medium with any monetary value which is why a capitalist corp advertising its use is so fucking retarded. We can and will go all the way to zero.
>>744377498Didn't watch with sound because vocals often make me cringe. This doesn't seem that bad? Not really warranting a major meltdown. It would be better if it didn't exist, but it definitely could be a lot lot worse. One thing is for sure, in a decade ai "slop" is surpassing human art output free. This shit is still younger than a decade and 80-90% of the way there.
Oh my Vishnu, I can't believe they got Son'y to sponsor this!
>>744378604Massive nothingburger. AI is inevitable and some R*dditors crying won’t change that fact. Look at where AI was years ago compared to now. Wait a few more years and look again.
>>744378494asking google how tight my foreskin should be is not the same as generating an entire AI music video
>>744376495Nothing new, they use AI to make skins they charge $60 for in Nikke and people line up to their troughs and lap it up.
>>744378593>Did you think a monet had any inherent value?that's completely irrelevant and that's the part that you are missing, you think that AI is worthless because you have this movement of liberal artists who will certainly tear up all data centers, meanwhile normal people enjoy things that are enjoyable, be it AI or not
>>744377015preduct spee
CURSE ON VISHNU RIGHT NOW!
>>744376940>>744377015Why are they so insistent on using AI when It's in such a primitive state?At least wait for it to work out the kinks so your product doesnt look utterly cheap.
>>744378559Most likely a bot
>>744377109probably
Hello this Shift Up Custemer Service how can I be helping you today saar
coming from the land of mass plastic surgery, how is anyone surprised. shortcuts and artificial aesthetics mean nothing to them.they're not even being cynical about pushing the slop, they culturally can't even distinguish the difference or think they're doing anything wrong
>>744378786>I have to pause frame by frame to read the AI text>what do you mean if I do this on real movies I will see a bunch of errors
>>744378786hello sir please to generate masterpiece very good quality good graphics no blurry image 4k beautiful woman bobs future city
You know if it's chink or nip who do this, you wouldn't hear the end of it from gook shills
>>744378825good morning saar
>>744377834Which one? There's like 20 versions of her as the face keeps shifting.
>>744378629Redpill me on the guy on the right.Is he from Chernobyl?
>>744378054They probably based it off a fork of seedance or some other popular Asian AI
>>744378629>ai video is all koreans in the crew and then suddenly a white guy
>>744376661holy fucking based
>>744378693What people "enjoy" is psychologically manipulative adhd tiktok brainrot and porn. That is the highest form of lizard brain engagement and where AI will reign. In the realm of art and commerce it has no function because it zeroes out monetary value and it zeroes out philosophical or "spiritual" value.It doesn't make sense for either an artist or a capitalist to advertise its use. It only makes sense for a hobbyist pornographer or a brainrot merchant.
>the only comeback anti-AI fags have is calling someone indianwill never not be funny
Imma this old ass magic trick:*ahem*tiny gook dick
>>744378054not leading gen tech but shift up heavily collaborates with a few ai corps regularly
As someone who makes Evie AI slop, I'm conflicted about this>
not giving them a view, anyone got some webms
>>744378940not to mention the word luddite makes them rant for hours on end
>>744378650What was the answer and how do you loosen it? Asking for a friend.
>>744378940The comeback will come later when you're out of a job, starving and laying in a piss ridden street corner.
>>744378940The accusation that you're an npc with aphantasia is actually more accurate but I guess Indian implies that to the people posting here.
>>744376950>Literally nobody is pro-AI besides MAGAtards Middle managers and executives. And employees who drink their kool-aid.
>>744378941AAAIIIEEEEEE YOU TRANNY BITCH YOU DIE BITCH BLOODY DON'T INSULT BOSS ASIAN
>>744378407>Mutts>Turks>Jeets>Monkeys>JeetsYeah that fits
>>744378974scroll up: >>744376940
>>744378970>pedo is mad that ai didn't make her look like a toddlerLol
>>744378936you just destroyed any value of real art btw
It has been over since IP count removal
>>744376940My AI Tomboy Wife Can't Be This Cute
>>744379049ur mom gay lol
>>744378941This is all you need
the guy who regularly post AI images of his art made an AI video? My god ,the world will end
>>744378987jewgle told me to cut it off entirely
>>744377896It's much worse when you listen to it. Even if it wasn't AI it would be unwatchable.
>>744378875
Art has no valueGo get a real job and contribute to society
PROVE YOU ARE NOT INDIAN AND CURSE VISHNU RIGHT NOW!
>>744379070Why did gook moot do that shit anyway? Besides being a jewish chinkoid.
>>744376495seethe tranny it looks goodday 1 preorder
>>744379101it's the future with asia in charge. western tastes and demands will take a backseat to china. nothing you can do about it
>>744379117this desu
>>744379126It would be embarrassing obvious when bot spamming
The sequel is getting even more butthurt out of people. Nice
How many people died of thirst because of this slop?
>>744376661the game was shown during summer game fest a mainstream game show, how on earth does anyone think buying a game like this would mean a tranny dying?
Reeeee saaarrrr i just lost my my sweatshop outslopping job because of your ai kino Please do not redeem the ai
>>744378637>Look at where AI was years ago compared to now.Still the same cancer ruining everything, pushed with the same "okay sirs it will be good in two more weeks but you must get on it NOW" shit?
AI bad, give me upvotes
>>744378940>indians are the biggest consumers and shills of AIslop>SAAR WHY U SAY WE INDIAN???lol
>>744379220this! so much this!
Trannies and their receding hairline lmfao.
https://youtube.com/shorts/QRtxMhRqBP4?si=IlvL7RRsEIjeCx2hNeed basedmongold to make a video on evie blade asap
>>744379234he's spiritually indian
>>744379069Art doesn't have "real" value. It's all subjective. Infinite ai spam is subjectively worthless. Real art doesn't even exist, it's just art that we value enough to contemplate for more than a jerk off session, when a culture loses that ability it has lost the ability to contemplate anything beyond hedonism (this is the third world)
>>744378209>Random Twitter post shitting on it already ratioed it>"StellarSlop" gaining forceUhoooo Jeetbros, Gookbros, better turn on the bot like farms because this ISN'T A GOOD LOOK!!!!
This is you if you're seething at this. You are a capital T Troon from Resetera.https://www.resetera.com/threads/shift-up-creates-a-music-video-with-ai-to-promote-stellar-blade-blood-rain.1591777/>>74437917110,000 troons already 41%erd over it. Total fucking Chud Cultural Victory
>>744379049>toddlerCome on now
>>744379143Korea is cringe, I'm perfectly fine with japanese and Chinese output.
>>744379126I thought DALL-E thread 24/7 was pretty obvious outcome of the removal
>>744376495Damn AI is getting GOOD. There's really nothing to critique here other than just the fact it's AI, even the writing on small objects in the scene is perfect
>>744379278I want her to suck on my "pacifier", if you know what I mean
>>744378426>that's the part you don't get, it would cost millions if they actually made it by handNigga this would cost a couple thousand at most, lmao.
>>744376950I'm sorry but given the usage statistics your statement is quite wrong. Not even including Indians, people are using AI and AI integration even when it's just generative models. The next step are the neural models that are set to release around 2030, according to projections. I enjoy them myself, even if I don't approve corporate and political misuse.
>>744379117>Art has no valueThen will you pay $60 to play this game?
>>744379274Identity generation through pointing at the "bad man" is tranny coded. You aren't going to win your cultural war by making every argument about nazis or trannies.
>>744377204Ain't no way a random ass Korean game studio made a China-level video gen AI in house. Trillion dollar corporations in US can't do it
>everyone itt thread is this stupidyou guys realize the music video isn't the reason this exists right, it will be used as b roll for adverts to normalfag gamer bros when the game is near launch since it's already on twitter and yt
>>744379274Still no hand, resetera browsing jeet. Or are you too busy looking for trans prostitutes?
>>744379341I'm paying for all the money that went into AI tools
>>744379220AI is good give me (you)s
>>744379360>random assshift up is evaluated at over 1.3 Billion USD, they are more valuable then most gaming studios as is
>>744379274Izzat coded post. I'm a chud and the music video looks like shit.
lolwhat's with normalniggers bringing pedos out of nowhere?Epstein fucking won.Nuke israel.
>>744379126The site is dying, in order to generate revenue it needed to create an environment where people would pay to be allowed to spam covert ads using bots and third world labour. You can't do that with an ip counter.
>>744377015Sometime in the future, you will be able to venture to world's like this in the vidya...
>>744379270Why are they mad now?Nikki and stellar blade both made with gen ai
>>744379274based AI CHAD
>the company who made millions using AI is still using AItruly groundbreaking stuff
>>744379365>normalfag gamer brosNo such thing.And the true normalfags only play gun and ball games.This game might unironically doom whatever anti-woke progress we made in the last 2 years, i dont this game to fail, but i also don't want to consume AI slop that looks this bad.It's over.
>>744379312retard, if it was done by traditional CGI animation, it would be a huge effort and cost
>>744379493chinks made up the majority of sales and love ai slop, you live in a bubble lil bro
>>744376940doesn't look any worse than the usual hollywood stuff
>>744376495Some shots genuinely look good, dunno how to feel about this.
>>744379487Yea like why are these "fans" are mad nowI can understand if luddite and wokefag are mad but i will not believe that anyone who love both nikki and sb can hate this gem
>>744379520So are you going to post chink AI music video or?
>AI thread>No one is cursing vishnuNoticing.
>>744379487They were siphoning money of gacha retards. They are trying to get money of humans now, it's a different target demo
>>744379526have you seen the latest slop, like disclosure day? lmoa that's a million times worse than this
pretty harmless video, don't see the outrage other then /v/ being contrarian again and as long as the games good well that's all that matters
>>744379609Ok i curse vishnu and dgaf about ai what now
>>744379520>chinks made up the majority of sales and love ai slop, you live in a bubble lil broNigga Chinks already hate it because it didn't get their moonrunes right hahahha.Western trannies didn't catch the AI usage, it was the chinks, and they made a fuss about it.ShiftUp is in for a rude awakening if they don't stop this bullcrap.
>>744379609I can't curse vishnu because he is immune to curse
>>744379672This. It is looking amazing and epic. Bloody bastard bitch doesn't understand.
We've got DOZENS of pro-slop threads this past week what the fuck is happening on /v/
>>744379701dude, next UE version will use AI, and they have an early access to it, that's what they use in the trailer and these music videosYOU are in for a rude awakening in a year or two
>>744379701I'm on weibo and it's getting a lot of praise calling evie cute, no one cares about your western propaganda outlets lil bro
Guess I'll pirate this game then.
>>744378426>that's the part you don't get, it would cost millions if they actually made it by hand, but now it costs a few hundredsWhy should I be impressed by their ability to upstart inane projects at a fraction of a deficit? Who wanted a music video outside of some faggot in a board room meeting?The only thing this type of thinking begets is that they can make 50x as many reckless decisions at 1/50 of the risk or cost.
does /v/ realize ue6 has ai built in......?
>>744379760To be fair in engine use of AI and video generated Ai is a whole different thing.In the former you would not get things like >>744379739
>>744379760We'll see in about 2 years, but if it doesn't break the CCU of SB1on Steam, we agree it was a failure, right?If it crosses it, you win, if it doesn't i win.
>>744379758After it was revealed months ago that this site was used to set up psyops to help bring a certain idology to the public as acceptable are you really surprised it's still being used for that end? It wasn't just the red boards affected it's all over of course that would go on to troll in favor of AI, give it enough time and eventually lots of people will be proudly pro killing and replacing people with AI bots
>>744379672>pretty harmless pronouns, don't see the outrage other then /v/ being contrarian again and as long as the games good well that's all that matters
>>744379782>Why should I be impressed by their ability to upstart inane projects at a fraction of a deficit? Who wanted a music video outside of some faggot in a board room meeting?you are not impressed because you don't realize the cost effectiveness, they made this because this cost them penniesnow compare it to, let's say Blizzard cinematics and their cost
>>744379831in 2 years ai will be even more normalized so im betting that you will be wrong by a lot desu
>>744379831>but if it doesn't break the CCU of SB1on Steamit 100% will
>>744379782Yeah but you see, thanks to this slop he might be able to create his own dream game all by himself in 5 years, and he will get tons of replies in his /v/ thread praising his work.
>>744379727kek he really is
>>744379831>if it has the exact same amount of players then it's a failurego suck a camel dick
>>744378664Pigs aren't supposed to be cute
>>744379806I dont want to watch adverts showing me pigs being slaughtered and their gristle being ground up and fed into a condom while I'm eating a sausage.
>>744378453>When this site removed the ip counter it signalled a desire to become a bot infested shithole. These stats are meaningless.Bingo. Hiro did that so he can fake the level of activity here to boost advertisement revenue. It's all about the money.
>>744377301Elsword is pretty good though. Too lazy to login, but is there seriously no other 2.5D brawler with as much combo depth and expression?
>>744379961>thread I don't like is bots or bait4chan is always filled with some of the biggest schizos
no pride. no shame. just money. it's just a game bro. video games are inherently slop and you need to enrich your life in more worthy causes
>>744376950That's what they said about every new inventionPeople even criticized the internet back then.People fear the unknown
>>744379994Why did they remove the ip counter?
>>744379997majority are manchildren and tranny manchildren
>>744379903>GO SUCK A CAMEL DICK YOU BLOODYPipe down jeet.
>>744376495VIDEOGAMESARENOTANDWILLNEVERBEART
>>744379874A lot of people hate AI and this game will be tinted by it. Not sure how much things would have flipped in 1-2 years from now, especially those who hate it on principle.
>>744379997>>744380028>A pseud and a Jeet walk into a room...
>>744380042a lot of people don't give a single shit about AI, only loud retards whose entire existence is virtue signaling for fake internet points
Its really funny watching AI cultists talk, because they clearly don't even understand how the technology works.Like, it's a powerful new tool, but it's not the fucking second coming of christ, calm down.
>>744379994>4chan is always filled with some of the biggest schizosThere was no reason to get rid of the IP counter unless you wanted to hide something. The IP counter was great for spotting astroturfed threads. Everyone knew this, and then it was taken away without explaining why.
>>744380026because people would spam the thread all day about the ip counter, it was meant to stop schizos like you from going "UHHHH IP # DIDNT GO UP, SAMEFAG BOT SPAM" and phone posters can use cellular to bypass this in seconds all the while 90% of the site is phone posters
>>744380040Art is for trannies anyway We solve real world problems, cure cancer, make space ships and reach immortality
>>744380016The public perception of technology was overwhelmingly positive going into the new millennium. Visions of the future were unanimously optimistic. All of this has reversed, the perception of AI is nothing like the internet.
>>744380042Even people who "love" AI get pissy when it gets things wrong, see >>744379701So i wouldn't even bet on all "AIbros" being on this game's side when it comes out.NFT and Web3 gaming seemed like such a sure thing 4 years ago, look where it is now.
>>744380087.>>744380092
I wouldnt care if the music wasn't ultra dogshitBut this shit gives your ears cancer, suno ai makes 100x better music than that
>>744380085It is a gift from jesus itself that will help mankind achieve immortality and complete peace
>dot com is a bubble and the internet has no future ass thread comments
>>744376950I'm not a migapede and I'm pro ai, as long as the data centers are built across the world.
>>744380109Do you got outside? Every person I know irl including all of my coworkers thinks ai is magic. But alas you are a basement dwelling neet.
>>744376495>anon gets their jimmies rustled over a fucking elaborate shitpost
>>744376495BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED
I smell bad business practices and lazy devs apologists in this thread.Somebody called me?
Her husband should be in the next video
>>744380092>>744380121Yes, we know that bots and shill faggots now thrive thanks to the IP counter being removed. Your point?
>>744376495MODS, THE AI GODS HAVE ARRIVED
>>744380085>Like, it's a powerful new tool, but it's not the fucking second coming of christ, calm down.Depends how it is going to be used. AI will allow every book writer to bypass Hollywood gatekeeping. No expensive studios, no actors getting older, no unions, no meddling in the vision of your story. THAT is the second coming of Christ.
>>744380092So a thread with an ip count of 2 and 100 posts wasn't a spam thread? Oh but complaining about it was more harmful and important than actually deleting the spam.Much better to remove the ability to detect when you're in a spam thread than to deal with posts that are pointing out when you're objectively in one.
>>744376495Should i care if it sounds good?
>>744380150>jesus itselfHoly fuck my guy. I know you learned english recently, but we refer to Jesus with the masculine 'him' or 'himself'.
>>744376495What a shame, I was kind of interested in Blood Rain. I knew Shift Up liked sloppa but not to this extent I guess.
>>744380192NOOOOOO SHAZAMSAMA HAVE MERCY PLEASE AAAAIIIEEEEEEEEEEE
you know AI is very good because glowies are doing everything in their power so you can't use it
>>744380197>>744380204>b-b-bu-b-but t-t-th-the ip co-c-c-coun-counter.....!phone posters are the majority of this sites population, virtually meaningless
>>744380232Then you were never a fan of shift up
>>744380114>NFT and Web3 gaming seemed like such a sure thing 4 years ago, No, they're not. Human artists can't compete against AI which is proven to shrink teams and cost less money to use. NFT and Web3 had no use at all in solving those problems.
>>744380203>bypass Hollywood gatekeeping.In exchange for the OpenAI gatekeeper? The compute provider gatekeeper? The "This content violates our terms of service" gatekeeper?
>>744380228Nah. Jesus is an "it". A "thing".
>>744380092>because people would spam the thread all day about the ip counterUtter nonsense. We have asked for unique IDs to filter spammers, but Hiro won't because this place isn't about making a functional social media site, it's about farming advertisement money.
>>744376495This "game" is pure slop and anyone buying it is contributing to destroying the videogame industry as an art medium
So... its a Korean studio, the game seems to be set in cyberpunk Hong Kong with Chinese signs and products around, the song is Japanese? In any case I hope the next game is good, I'm just not sure why there wasn't an expansion to play as Tachy or something. >MUH AI This shit isn't going away. It can either be in the hands of megacorporations who charge you for every token, or it can be FOSS, uncensored, and self host capable. The genie isn't going back in the bottle, and screeching like patreon ar-teests and similar trannoid ideologies, nor bitching about Indians is going to help, all while the megacorps laugh all the way to the bank since everyone is distracted over infighting faggotry. You don't want a proprietary corpo-dominated AI future but you have a limited time to focus and get it squared away before they manage to lock in their profiteering model.
>>744380308gonna happen anyway, shift up is not the only ones pushing this by a longshot
>>744380289Jesus was a dude. Like, an actual guy. Not an 'It'
>>744380247TRUTHNUKEThe U.S President has been desperately trying to ban AI for months now. That would not be the case if AI was "pointless".
>>744380159I'm so sick of talking to people who hate ai and dread unemployment I don't even want to talk about ai anymore. It's like talking about cancer with a terminal patient and it's everywhere. The consensus of technology and the future is so negative it has completely castrated any sense of progression and optimism in the entire western world.It genuinely feels like the west has had a simultaneous existential crisis and is now moping about like a depressed middle aged man. This is completely different than how people were in the 90s.
>retards arguing with baitards
>>744380294>disregards the fact that phoneposters can just change ip's within 5 secondsdo you live in 2012 gramps?
>>744380340...is that why he reposted AI generated slop of him being Jesus?
AI CHAAAAAAAAAADS KNEEL TO OUR GOD KIM
>>744380340But drump use it everyday to shitpost on x
>>744380247The corporations are doing everything in their power to make sure only them have full access to AI as it was created for their benefit.
>>744380285>In exchange for the OpenAI gatekeeper? The compute provider gatekeeper? The "This content violates our terms of service" gatekeeper?Hahaha, as if that's having any major effect now when the tech is still in its infancy and still under the control of a handful of developers.
>>744380203Except 4 of the largest tech companies in the world are as kiked up as your average Hollywood studio and they'll gatekeep you from owning your own hardware instead.
Shit for people who enjoy eating shit. Now grab a spoon and open wide.
>people that weren't going to buy the game won't buy it anywaysWow
>>744380228God has no gender
meh, maybe now with ai game companies can go back to focusing on gameplay with graphics and asset generation largely solved. devalue visuals and go back to judging games based on gameplay, like the NES days. SNOY movie-sims costing hundreds of millions have been a plague on the industry for far too long
>>744380434But think of all the r*dditors!
>>744380380That's old news. He's anti-AI now.
>>744380114>NFT and Web3 gaming seemed like such a sure thing 4 years agoAre you employed at Konami? Nobody else thought so
>>744380271Never said I was, Blood Rain was the only thing from them that caught my interest.
>>744380443Jesus is not God. The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are separate entities, despite making up the holy Trinity. (I'm not religious, but even I know this, you stupid retard)
>>744380425Who gives a fuck about them having control of the tech right now. In ten years, the landscape will have completely changed with other competing programs from different non-western countries. Copyright and restrictions have always been hurdles, but never the end all.
>>744380465He's realising he lost the ai race. All the evil shit he wanted to do to his own citizens will be imposed on him by china.
>>744380449Nobody want gaymplay retardGo play shmups or some shit if you want gaymplay
>>744380434And a lot of people who were going to buy the game aren't going to buy it either.
>>744378763Goys love their toys
>>744380271>fan of shift upFucking lol
>>744380496>I'm not religious Then stfu fagtist
>>744380525>a few chronically online losers wont buy the gameoh no! anyway
>>744380343Cuz we're about to be in a depression that makes the great depression look like a fucking joke and people with enough awareness know this time, there will be no one willing to try and get out of it, the wealthy themselves are cumming themselve ahego over all the death and suffering because empathy is a sin or it's for the sake of no longer needing money or some other crazy shit they like to say we're fucked, fucked to the point people are just preying for the giant meteor to end the foreboding pain and suffering, or snapping completely and going into their villain arcs wanting to inflict as much pain and misery on others before going down themselves
>>744380525Most people don't care about some random AI video of it lol and the actual fans of Shift Up already knew about the heavy usage of AI from them
>>744380465>To protect US AIAnon.
>even most le based and le talented devs in industry cant create something good looking with AI, it looks like any other slop prompted by random jeet on stolen api keysGrim, imagine that but with western gamedevBetter start looking for new hobby pals
>>744379850>you are not impressed because you don't realize the cost effectivenessAre you fucking with me?>upstart inane projects at a fraction of a deficit>make 50x as many reckless decisions at 1/50 of the risk or cost.I've acknowledged that twice, and you refuse to understand my grievances with that being the case >let's say Blizzard cinematics and their costWhat's even your argument in this case? That the cinematics aren't as impressive because they cost more? Do you praise a movie for its budget and not what you actually saw?
Loved nikkiLoved stellar blade Going to love bloodrainThankyou korea and thank you aiNow i only wish for them to make a porn game with endless possibilities
>>744380026>>744380087because retards like you used to shit up any thread they didn't like by rigorously screencapping every ip count update and accusing every new post of being a bot
this entire thread is funny
Holy slopperoni nevermind the slow yet twitchy animation, characters with thousand-yard stare syndrome and the omnipresent AI "art style", how did anyone not see and fix any of this shit before publishing that video? I thought AI fixed hands back in 2022...
Saaaar please redeem the AI it will very very btfo the bloody trannoids basterds
>>744380159People are showing up to town hall meetings in record numbers to try and stop developments of data centers. It is one thing that has gotten the most civil engagement in years because people fucking hate it.
>>744380575>Anon.If he cared about American AI then he would let them save money using wherever possible.That's how free trade is suppose to work. Tariffs and other protectionist crap is how you fall behind (i.e what luddites want).
>>744378908That's Evies husband
>>744380525yeah, like me. never played stellar blade. sbbr trailer looked good and piqued my interest. back to not giving a shit aside from shitposting material. probably worth a pirate
>>744376495why is this dude like this? fucking awful
>>744376495>grifters fucking over dense and oblivious posturing tards using video gaymes as assets for political statements good
>>744380640I think you actually need to go to your town hall instead of believe everything you read on twitter or see on youtube
>>744380640>um so the westgood thing the east is the majority of this games sales
>>744376940Give me practical effects gookslop any day.https://youtu.be/5UjV_4rak6I?t=131
>>744380501>western countries subsidizing ai companies while banning chink hardware>chink companies with chink subsidies vacuuming up all chink hardwaresame result
>>744379989All of Elsword's genuine depth is fucking worthless in the face of its rancid dogshit netcode and cancer-tier KMMO.monetization system.
>>744380671I did. There was over 5 hours of testimony.
Why are korean so fucking based?
>>744380710no you didn't phonefag, you can't even leave your couch
>>744376495aislop aside, evie seems to have a personality unlike evethey should've rendered this whole thing in UE5 instead of making this super obvious slopgen, it just looks bad
>>744376661>we must consume the sloppiest of goyim chow to own the heckin troonsI’m far too old to understand how this works
>>744380710Oh so ur a flyover? Makes your comments even more funny.
>everybody speaking about the game againThey keep getting away with it. Next they might do actual porn of Evie
>weird, overly plastic look to evie that is nothing like the reveal trailer>no consistency from scene to scene, blatantly evident with scene where she's picking out a can>that fucking puddle "hopping" scene
>>744380075Not sure about that. It might apply for the average person on the street but gamers are more attuned to this and they are the target audience.https://www.game-oracle.com/blog/ai-part2I don't want Evie's game to catch a lot of shit for it.
>>744380729>Why are korean so fucking based?You're looking for the plural, "Koreans", saar.
>>744380729koreans are asian and understand ai kino
>>744380740I thought you guys said UE5 was bad and the worst thing
>>744378763The company CEO is a big AI believer.
>>744380798I would too if I made a game with 50 people that generated 10mil+ per month of revenue
That Evie and the crew montage at the end was actually cool
>>744380754Would be much more respectable than this, if it's actual 3d modelled porn.
>>744380729Third world mindset. Culturally they behave like black Americans who re-coined the term based.
>>744380798>AI and proudat least he's honest. judge him all you want
Kim is a true artistOnly a true artist understand the real worth of gen ai
>>744380781Indians are asian and understand ai kino
>a game about AI replacing humans uses AI-slop as promotional materialdare I say, kino?
>>744380782the game is developed on UE5, it wouldn't take much time to make a 2-3 min vide of evie waddling through the areas shown in the video as they have the assets available
>>744379182uh bro, some literal who troons on twitter (that I go out of my way to find) got mad at it, therefore we must support absolute dogshit to btfo some random troons (also don't you dare bring up some other random troons that support my views since I will ignore it) or some retarded shit like that
>>744380871kim's a genius marketer, he knows how to make outrage flow and generate internet flame wars
>>744380757>weird, overly plastic look to evie that is nothing like the reveal trailerThis is what bothers me the most
>>744380737>>744380749I'm sorry that you are finding out that people don't want data centers plaguing their land. I know it's a critical blow to your narrative.
>>744380858Only a true artist could create a porn gacha and shamelessly rip off a better japanese game.
it's so funny seeing trannies seethe at KimKim art is much better than 90% of them and there is nothing they can do
I like Stellar Blade and am looking forward to Bloodrain but yeah this is giga cringe
>>744378763Pixar used CGI in its infancy and now they're one of the richest animation studio on Earth.Being early to the punch has its benefits because now they become a household name in the future.
>>744380902>flyover hick thinks his opinion matters when data centers get built in his backwoods statelol, lmao even
>>744376495Korea won.
yorch was right. this ain't it
>>744380897This is "genius" in exactly the same way putting a tranny of a can of beer is. Good luck.
>>744380109>The public perception of technology was overwhelmingly positive
>>744380873See, this is a prime and classic example of how people miss the point of the use of AI
>>744380614Yeah. It's good for bruteforcing mathematical problems, very niche technical stuff, wanking off but I consider below me anyone using the prediction clankers to produce high quality entertainment. I feel despair looking at the slop crowd that begs for ai movies, ai games and ai art. What's next for those cunts, ai key jingling? That's what they ask for in the end. A robot arm jiggling ai generated keys, dude it can generate all type of keys of any color and shape! No need to have a single human involved! I LOVE SLOP! CEOs won't be replaced howeverlbeit. That'd be antisemitic.
>>744380916Facts but I feel like people like us are the minority
>>744380939Fuck off Yorch
I mean it's certainly not the worst AI slop I've ever seen, definitely showcases the current cutting-edge pretty wellThe tech will continue improving exponentially. Diffusion models have been largely ignored by the big labs in favor of reaching the point of RSI with LLMs, so this is just the tip of the iceberg
>>744380921No, really, how much are you getting paid, genuinely interested.
>>744380979What exactly is the future of cutting edge ai stuff?Those agentic agent things?
>>744380952>the uni bomber exists therefore everyone on earth hated technologyRetard.
Blood rain will run silky smooth on any kind of device btw
>>744380953the point being what? to make a slopgen that looks like it was made by some random dude on xitter?I'd be embarrassed to post that online under shift-up
>>744380979>definitely showcases the current cutting-edge pretty wellWe need to beat you to death with hammers.
>>744380989No one is paying me. But that's because I'm already successful and not a wagecuck.
>>744376661shift up? more like BASED UP
>>744381014>I'd be embarrassed to post that online under shift-uplol why you that. shift up is ai-slop and proud. they've never tried to give any other impression
>>744381035>I dont have a job but have money = stock market jockey>he holds stock in ai companies and is forced to shill on an anime forumLemao
>>744380921>Being early to the punch has its benefits because now they become a household name in the future.But they're not early to the punch. There's a fuckton of AI cinematics shit already even before Shift Up made their AI labs department, like fucking seedance.
But, no, really, why use AI for the video? They're the developers, they have access to Evie's 3D CG model. They have the environment models. And if they rigged up the model for the MV, they could even re-use those animations in the game itself.Regardless of the terrible results, the use case doesn't even make sense.
>>744376495AI is neat and all, but we all know those with actual power will use it for surveillance and moderating the internet. Why have the NSA or whatever when bots become so efficient that you can have one for every single human being? The whole internet will be censored and turned into a massive gigareddit thanks to ai bots watching everything you do.
I can understand why trad pencilfag get mad over ai but why you gamers hate it?Its a tech just like any video game
>>744381006You're not supposed to sign your posts here
>>744380343>>744380561People are right to see how shitty things look on the current path, but its not like that's the only one available. Most of them are freaking out over what comes down to memes and vibes, but aren't willing or able to look at the alternative that will fix stuff. AI (yes, even LLM type soft-AI glorified chatbot searching database assistants not true hard-AI etc) should be a universal benefit to society like a lot of other technological advances, but people are dumb enough to scream about how the rich are profiteering from all of it, while screeching at the tech itself and becoming patreon furry artist whiner stereotypes DEY TOOK MAH JERBS style. The answer is simple - don't let the corporate overlords design it so that they get the benefit, everyone else gets fucked. Think about it, all the current problems caused by AI are either entirely caused by, or vastly multiplied by the leaders of the industry are all proprietary fucktards, taking huge amount of resources to train their proprietary fucktard model , and then when its good enough sell it to you sofware-as-a-service style at ever increasing prices and censorship the more the economy is dependent on it. Compare this to FOSS models that are self-host capable and able to be improved. You wouldn't need to have 10 billion dollar operations redundantly sucking up water, power and RAM/GPUs to train a model, if Open AI , Anthropic, Google, MS, Amazon, even DeepSeek and the rest were all basically working on improving and tweaking the same open source, weight, and training data models. This is a problem of profiteering creation.They're fighting a class war, we're all losing and if people are either infighting or licking the boot because you're something something commie tranny buzzword buzzword that's part of the problem. This isn't some foregone conclusion, people are giving up without a fight over bullshit and minutia. There are other options.
>>744380998For video/images it'll basically just be imperceptible from reality (or whatever you're trying to mimic)Agents are already here on the language model side, but future AI agents are almost certainly going to be powered by a new architecture of some kind. LLMs won't scale (efficiently) forever.>>744381016This is realistically the best anyone will get out of the current cutting-edge diffusion models when attempting a project of decent scale like this one. Did you see me call it "good" anywhere? It's not good, but it's a good tech demo.
>>744381072I own real estate and land which will always be more valuable than jobs or the stock market. Try again bucko.
>>744381105Missing the whole point...
There is more though and soul in this AI slop song than in all of western gaming combined
>>744380979It shows about as much as the shit you generate on Grok...
>>744381116Name a single good game made using AI Because right now, it's just a calling card for people unwilling to put in effort.
>>744381140uncs be crashin out over ai kino
>>744381083shit up been using AI since stable diffusion, nikke is half AI
>>744376495being anti-AI is a westoid thing. Asians are pro-AI unless they're one of the west loving woke libtards
>>744381059izzat>>744381105don't bother, you'll get indian replies
>>744381105Even if they have all the assets the most effective way to blend Evie with real people is AI
>>744381105They are just showing off how cool this tech is and every aaa devs so start using it asap
>>744380898Yeah, the lack of freckles is a war crime
>>744381016Wonder if the studio behind K-Pop Demon Hunters agreed to their movie being mentioned in this.
>>744381150>inb4>E33 is shit>it was just used once
>>744381105You're talking about it, aren't you?
>>744381157Yes, but not their own AI shit. You brought up pixar and toy story but Toy Story was made using Pixar's own proprietary engine.
>>744381083And those are all made by amateurs.Shift Up has the benefit of both being a professional studio and owning high profile IPs.They're early because they can use AI to leverage those properties, the same way Pixar would use Toy Story's success to fund more movies or make merchandising deals.
>>744381208do you even understand how AI works? Kim has an entire model trained on his art and perfects throughout the years
>>744381175>the most effective way to blend Evie with real people is AIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZP5eqm4JqM&Who framed Rodger rabbit is from the 80's, we've been able to do that for decades.
>>744381150E33Stellar blade 1Death stranding 2Fortnite Upcoming tomb raider
>>744381110>he whole internet will be censored and turned into a massive gigareddit .Don't be too optimistic. It'll be a massive gigatwitter. Everyone gets a little Elon Musk telling them what they're allowed to think and say.
/v/ says they're against AI, yet browse a board where most posters are now AI bots. Curious.
>>744381105I agree with this 1000%An in-engine clip even if it's just her singing, even if it's just 30 seconds would have been much better than this uncany version
It's so funny because in 10 years we won't even have these discussions.
>>744381202Probably just bias but I can't in good faith call any game that imitates Gearbox to be good.
>>744377910>It still can't get the fingers and toes rightjej
>>744381241>Fortnite>Good
>>744381116How about the lac of internal consistency for the character model?
>>744381251the only alternative is leaving the internet completely, which im seriously considering
>>744381263its just a mild crashout from luddites ranting about the inevitable
I hate AI slop and still want to see tits and cute girlswhere do I fit in?
>>744381272>imitates gearbox
>>744380979See >>744380628How can this be anywhere close to current cutting edge when it still can't even do hands?
>>744381313Yes. The games overworld is a knock off of the Tiny Tina shit.
>>744381259Or (hear me out),They use both their in-engine version and AI to render on top of it. There is zero downsides to doing this and they still save more money too.
>>744381308Congratulations, you're normal.
>>744381119Open source ai doesn't improve my life in any way either. Outside the scientific realm it's just spam. In the same way social media didn't improve my life or even gaining acess to streaming services with a billion shows and games on my backlog didn't. More isn't always better, more efficiency and democratisation is not what I want from media.All of this runs counter to a goldilocks zone where humans have enough but not too much to burn out and become aware of their own insatiable, hedonistic desires.
IM GONNA SNEED ITIM GONNA CHUCK SUCK AND FUCK IT
>>744381285Gen ai is basically like 2d animation They are not consistent all the time but still make sense
We support pajeets now?
> sounds of coomers and pajeets fighting
>>744381105>generate something on an afternoon as a shitpost>vs>spend months and workpower on something nobody will remember in a week
>>744381342>>744381308Naw, you're gay. AI + tits = final boss.
>>744381308Play games made by artist like vanillaware games
>everyone who doesn't want to eat shit is a ludditeI want things to look good. This doesn't look good. Don't use AI for commercial purposes until it's equal or better than the human who was making it previously. I don't care if your CEO is making more money on the reduced costs, my end product has been made worse.
>>744376495Oh boy, here we go.
>>744381251that's like saying I like indian because they post in /v/ too.
>>744381319Do you understand what "cutting edge" means? The Model T was cutting edge once upon a time.The fact of the matter is that the current cutting edge still fucks up anatomy like that. The investment in this sort of genai has been minimal compared to LLMs. Still plenty of room to grow.
>>744381308Sorry, there is nothing but gacha for you.
>>744381407>Play games made by artist like vanillaware gamesI'm still in shock that Muramasa is coming to PC. Hopefully other past titles get ported too.
I am too old to remember all the shit people hated it only to become the norm after a few years and nobody cared after
>>744381359So Gen ai is basically like bad 2d animation?
why do we do this to ourselves
>>744381391>Show the public how little you care about your product >vs>Spending time an effort on something you believe in
>>744381409>This doesn't look good.It's a massive leap compared to 2023.Another 3 years and you will struggle to find any flaws.
>>744381339Fuck them saving money. You a developer cocksucker or some shit? You buy your shit at Epic games where they charge you the same shit as Steam so that the devs can make more money?The only people who should be getting savings are the consumer.
>>744377207that plastic cup slide
>>744381339As long as she looks consistent through and through
>>744380316>MUH WOKEThis shit isn't going away. It can either be in the hands of megacorporations who charge you for every token, or it can be FOSS, uncensored, and self host capable. The genie isn't going back in the bottle, and screeching like patreon ar-teests and similar nazi ideologies, nor bitching about Indians is going to help, all while the megacorps laugh all the way to the bank since everyone is distracted over infighting faggotry. You don't want a proprietary corpo-dominated woke future but you have a limited time to focus and get it squared away before they manage to lock in their profiteering model.
>>744381407yeah, I willI bought a Vita TV specifically to play Dragon's Crown
>>744381492I am sure you will remember this when the game come out in a year or two
>>744381359>They are not consistent all the timeYou know what is? 3D animation
>>744381495THEN WAIT THREE MORE FUCKING YEARS BEFORE SHOVING IT DOWN MY THROAT YOU TWAT.I can't fucking criticize the future that doesn't fucking exist yet, you fucking idiot.
>>744381479I remember when /v/ hated phone posting.
>>744377207LMAO
>>744376495That’s a child
>>744381551Guess they thought it was too good of a shot to throw out because of the fingers
>>744381409I don't think this MV looks good at all, it looks really bad and stilted and awkward and just bad.But I do agree with an anon above that said that if they want to actually be involved in advancing AI usage for media, they have to start now. Studios didn't wait until 3D was at the level of Pirates of The Carribean Dead Man's Chest to use it, they used it from the moment it started being a tech so that it could be developed and embraced to the point something as amazing as Davy Jones in that movie could have been made.
>>744381517>This shit isn't going away. It can either be in the hands of megacorporations who charge you for every token, or it can be FOSS, uncensored, and self host capable. Sure doesn't look like we have a choice in that.
>>744381534Unlike you, I have a functioning hippocampus. I'll be able to recall this, yes.
>>744381551what is wrong with it?
>>744381495>It doesn't look good>B-but it look better than before!I'm tired of these moronic replies
>>744381308With every coomer on earth who instinctually views coomershit like a disposable tissue and so pirates every porn game while purchasing normal games.
>>744381495it still looks like shit and can't even keep the kitchen layout consistent lol
ShiftUp really knows how to get attention.
>what is wrong with it?
>>744381637>zoomer who entire existence has been fortnite and GTA 5 can't even see progressyou can't make this shit up
>>744381637>catposter>calls other poster moronicpottery
>>744376793Stop! I can only afford so many copies of this game! FUUUUUCK
>>744381545>I can't fucking criticize the future that doesn't fucking exist yet, you fucking idiot.Why would you criticize the future? Are you now intentionally looking for things to be upset about?They're using the technology now as practice and to keep getting better.
>>744381593>if they want to actually be involved in advancing AI usage for media, they have to start now.They're not even using the cutting edge for this video, this is Wan Video 2.2 tier slop. I could generate this on my 5080.
>>744381657So does Budweiser, not all attention is good for buisiness
>>744381651If you have to squint a nitpick things that you won't see without pausing, then it's not bad enough to bitch about, and certainly not bad enough to be called "shit" in your tribalistic hyperbolistic reverie.
>>744381665still waiting for you to explain what is wrong with it
>>744376950Jeets, pedophile gooners, spineless middle-managers, you're forgetting a lot of pro-AI groups. Truly the best of humanity.
>>744381593At this point it's an issue of scaling. You could probably make an actual proper movie with AI with real scenes, continuity and varying shots that aren't just 3 second long camera pans but you'd probably have to pay millions in token usage to make it work. Even if you built a datacenter on every corner of the country it just then becomes a power issue and when you're having to build NPP's at every town to power all these things just to make a movie. Then you got problems.
>>744381718that's the beauty of capitalism. the market will dictate who will win. and that will be AI
>great rendered trailer at summer game fest which shows they have the assets and pipeline>do this shit instead
>>744381637I hate AI but I hate toxo cucks even more
>>744381682The people making this music video have no effect on the development of future models that will be used to make AI videos in the future. They're not helping develop the technology, they're simply using it. Me using my GPU doesn't make Nvidia make better GPUs
>>744381718The people who see a thing as bad for business do not see the people who don't. And you will never acknowledge them, either. Forever.
>>744381479Because majority gamers are mindless cattle
Shall we go for a third thread?
>>744381651Pure copium. Back in 2023 you haters all said AI would never make real videos. Now you're moving goalposts to deny it's improving fast.
>>744381479I 'memba
>>744381726>If you have to squint a nitpick thingsliterally one second apartnow kill yourself already you ESL brown faggot
>>744381734theres nothing wrong with jeets and pedophile gooners, and their contributions to humanity can't be contextualized on in the realm of their race or sexual attractions.
>>744381745Kek, AI is the death of art being worth anything at all. The beauty of the capitalist system determines that anything easy to produce eventually has no value.
>>744381495It's not insane gibberish but the video on the right is still skinwalker direct interpolation bullshit. Like it's really bad. You have to be an autistic CS graduate to not immediately clock the right, in the same way that only autistic CS graduates think they can pass as women.
>>744371830
>>744381808>can't refute anything I say so you fall back on criticizing a typo as if this means anything or helps you at allYou are mentally a child
>>744381629Here's things I saw that didn't really line up.>Evie has fingerless gloves when she has full gloves in the reveal trailer>A skewer handle just floating outside the tray>two sets of chicken barbecue without a skewer handle to grab them with>the chicken skewers in the bucket are all pointy side out instead of handle side for convenience of consumptionI'm sure someone far more autistic can find more but those are the ones that immediately caught my eye.
>>744381821anon... art was always about selling
>>744381821That has never applied to art. Its value is entirely immaterial.
>>744381813>theres nothing wrong with jeets Come on, man.>and pedophile goonersSome of them can sing, this is true.
>>744381748>great rendered trailerWas it rendered? Some could say parts of it were AI, which would explain why her face seemed to look inconsistent in some shots.
>>744381858
>>744381854have you never been to a skewer seller before?
>>744381821Bro, AI is the beginning of art being worth more than it ever did. You are so retarded.
I don't understand why gamers get mad when someone call them goyim Just consume your slop and shut up
>>744381908Good morning saar.
>>744381849>says i'm "nitpicking" things>point out how it can't even keep scenes consistent still and this even evident in shit up's own video>refuses to acknowledge anything i said and blocks it outsuck a shotgun retard
>>744381757The line goes up or it goes down, when you do something stupid that nobody likes the line goes down. When the line has gone down enough the company folds.I dont need to acknowledge anything these are objective events tha are observable in neutral space.
>>744381908That's some horrid grammar, saar.
>>744381906Anon, I'm from the Philippines. All we fucking have are skewer sellers. Chicken barbecue, beef barbecue, bananacue, fucking "fishballs". When I say that those things caught my eye it's because I've had more than enough skewers (both street vendor and restaurant) to last three lifetimes.
>>744381904You just proved AI is the greatest tool ever invented.If you believe art was always about free expression and not money then celebrate every art job is going extinct.
>>744381854>two sets of chicken barbecue without a skewer handle to grab them withBro...
>>744381896>generalizations based on raceNo, YOU come on. Racism is funny as jokes, thats it. >>744381896>Some of them can sing, this is true.Theres so many people that would be defined as pedophiles in the world that if we knew the true number, this stupid perception that all pedophiles are also rapists would disappear overnight.
>>744381657Just like bonnie blue
>>744381908This is the most Indian coded message in this entire thread, congratulations on your think like a brilliant.
>>744377134Stellar Blade had far better gameplay and skill expression than Near a Tomato and Metal Gear Rising yet those two games didn't make your axe wound puss up anywhere near as much. Strange how that works.
>>744381972>SEAnig is AI strongest soldiersmake sense, no wonder indians live rent free in their head
>>744381980But AI images aren't art. They can look pretty, you can jack off to them, but that doesn't make them art. I don't understand how someone who considers themselves human can't understand the distinction.
>>744381934>when you do something stupid that nobody likesYou fulfilled the prophecy in the next reply. Congratulations, caveman. >>744381948>logical fallacyThat's a horrid attempt at ....whatever you were trying with that comment.
>AI greatly improving by the day>anti-AI arguments staying the same Yeah, I wonder who will win at the end
>>744381992Come on, man, be serious. You're not convincing anyone on being pro-jeet and if you do, it falls apart as soon as they interact with a jeet. Don't bother.
>>744377971Did anti-AI jap accounts on Twitter start committing seppuku yet?
>>744381745And who wins when AI collapses the market?
>>744382038What makes you think my statement was in support of AI, anon? I'm saying those things are what's wrong with the ai generated video.
>>744382047>But AI images aren't art. Bananas taped to walls were called "Art". AI is far more creative than that bullshit.
>>744377283>and it saves so much moneyHow does it save me money? I just get to look at video that looks uncanny as fuck and get asked the full fucking price anyway. Who gives a single fuck if the korean megacorp parent company saved money?How about making a product I actually want to give them my money for in the first fucking place instead of skimping on video quality and then expecting me to consume anyway at any price.Fuck this.
>>744381980https://www.reddit.com/r/DefendingAIArt/comments/1katdmf/just_be_honest/
>>744380921>Pixar used CGI in its infancyPixar built its own tools and contributed to the larger space of 3D art, built from a strong understanding of mathematics and programming, which led to the production of more advanced tools that we see in their modern productionsShiftUP just tossed some pictures of Evie into some shitty pre-made AI slop model and had it shit out 5 second shots of her doing bullshit and then pretending it's a music videothese are not the same levels of innovation nor effort
>>744382080>You're not convincing anyone on being pro-jeetYou're right, I'm not. Or else I would have tried. So you missed the entire point of what I said.
>>744377712>years that could have gone into [...] reading booksCreating will always be a higher plane of human existence than consuming and it genuinely baffles me how retards put so much stock in the latter.Reading books doesn't make you interesting, it makes the person that wrote the book interesting. It does not fulfill you as reading is not a manifestation of oneself unto the world.
>>744382078>Muh logical fallacyYou're on 4chan, retard, if I'm replying to you without ad hominem, then I'm a bot, a jew, or a jeet.
>>744377447You probably have more in common with a blesky tranny than with a normal member of society
>>744382078Autism isn't an argument. You taking everything literally and being unable to understand language is not a subject worth discussing.
>>744382157Yes you were, I'm sorry you were born brown but you're really bad at everything and you're radicalizing everyone you deal with. Did you type this thinking it would make me less racist? Be honest.
>>744382161Incorrect. Thats your personal choice.
>>744382160most artists and writers are literal who talentless hacks, no one cares about your slop bro you aren't that guy
>>744382113"modern art" is a money laundering scheme invented by the kikes to evade taxes. A lot like AI art, if we think about it.
>>744382198
>>744380921the most brain damaged post i've read today
>>744381339Nearly every major new technological advancement in content production that lowers the cost, talent or technical barrier of entry - the higher end content production quality drops. See what cheap 3D animation did to 2D hand-drawn animation, what cheap CGI did to practical FX, what cheap synthesizers did to analog musical instruments in music production... and so on. This doesn't just apply to content production, almost everything gets enshittified when technology enables cheap, low quality, mass produced goods to cannibalize high quality artisanal goods in the pursuit of cutting costs and maximizing profit. Enshittification will keep making things shittier and there's nothing you can do about it when the high-quality, long-lasting goods, products and services you liked are inevitably driven out of business.
I like it, like most AI nowadays it falls into the top 20% quality bracket.A gifted human artist will easily produce far better, but the vast majority of troons, faggots and austrian painters believing themselves artists in current year produce far worse slop.
>>744382212Yes. Art trade has nothing at all to do with the quality of the art in question. It's just assets richfags invest in and speculate on.
>>744382310Yeah, so lets ban Washing Machines because it requires no talent to do laundry! Stop blaming tools for what boils down to merit and motivation.
>>744376495AI feels like starfield.
>>744382378Fun fact, most art theft is done as collateral in case an organized crime boss needs bailing out.
>>744382387>Equating the manual labor of washing clothes with the inherently human act of creation.
>human act of creation.do artfags really?
>>744382310>See what cheap 3D animation did to 2D hand-drawn animationBeing cheaper to do doesn't automatically mean lower quality. Example.
>>744382387I dunno we're kinda seeing the merit of what AI content can do now and 80% of it are scams, 10% are trying to trick into believing false events and the other 10% are just slop to game the youtube algorithim
>>744382460Anon, art requires manual labor too.Did you think anime and cartoons were animated by magic or by sweatshops full of Asians being worked to death?I will laugh at how you contradict yourself next.
>>744382206>most artists and writers are literal who talentless hacksAnd what foes that make you when your entire life revolves around validating the existence of said hacks' work?It doesn't matter how shit you think the creative output of someone is. Consuming is not a valid form of personality regardless of what medium and of what origin in general. A lack of creation is a lack of self-realisation, a lack of manifesting oneself within the universe. It is a state of a mental non-existence. Any time I mention this the beings (not prople, as they lack personhood) such as yourself get very defensive and assume I am applying value to people based on what they can create that is of utility to me. Which is not the point. The point is manifesting your own internal world into reality in some form. If your own mind cannot project itself unto reality, then you are as good as mindless. You, and by that I mean a sapient being with personhood, do not exist. You are an amoeba that reacts to stimulus created by actual human beings with developed egos using their agency to manipulate the world that they inhabit.
>>744378786Hello sar, I am cawling yu today about dee Preduet Spee. It is saying that these can is open from 20:00 to 006, while other can only has opening hours of 200mililiters?
>>744382483We've been painting pictures for longer than we've had the written word. Even during famine and hardships, humanity has created works of art, despite their lack of inherent value for survival. To create is human, and to think otherwise is dire folly that reduces us to meat machines. >>744382542This is not the gotcha you think it is. Anyone can clean clothes and get an identical result. No two humans would paint an identical picture. There's labor involved in both, but to view art for JUST the labor involved is retarded.
>>744382585who said consuming is a valid form of personality schizo, go lift weights and stop being a fatass pseud
>>744382485>Free>Is actually edit of the $90,000 workThese shills really are something
>>744381495>puts his hands in the boiling water
>>744382632Who gives a fuck what the additional text says. Point is, AI doesn't automatically mean lower quality.
>>744382631>who said consuming is a valid form of personalityThe individual claiming he "wasted" years of his life manifesting his own personhood when he instead could have been consuming books, you retard.
>>744382714im nta, I think ur a pseud retard tho
>>744380902I agree, retard, I’m saying I don’t understand how AI’s success is a blow to troons
>>744382754"Troon" and "tranny" are just generic insults for anyone the person using them felt was worth insulting. Don't overthink it.
>>744382754It's just /v/ being contrarian faggots as always. Everyone and their mother is tired of AI slop, including trannies, so /v/ thinks they'll "own the troons" by shilling AI
>>744382626>Anyone can clean clothes and get an identical result.Washing clothes takes talent and skill. It takes just as much effort washing clothes properly compared to doing art.
>>744382626>Anyone can clean clothes and get an identical result. Having more dirty/soiled clothes requires more physical strength to clean them out. So no, it wouldn't be equal unless you believe all humans are equally strong.>No two humans would paint an identical picture. The stick man is one of the most recognizable figures that two equally capable humans can absolutely draw or match.> There's labor involved in both, but to view art for JUST the labor involved is retarded.No, I'm just pointing out your blatant hypocrisy.Humans invented tools for the exact purpose of making our jobs or chores easier.A Washing Machine exist so both rich and poor can get equally clean results for fewer effort.Therefore, AI art exists so people who struggled at drawing can now get equally good results as those who had more experience or studied for it. The genie aint going back in the bottle when it has a democratizing effect like washing machines did.
>>744382737Rich of you to call anyone retarded when you can't even follow a basic conversation.
>>744382881I'm not gonna read ur multi paragraph rant lil bro
>>744382387You will be considered a luddite once you inherit your great grandma's 1960's era industrial strength washing machine that can still clean your clothes when your "AI Enhanced" internet connected smart washing machine becomes no longer usable because your smart hub subscription lapsed and it can no longer connect to the internet.
>>744382880>>making our jobs or chores easier.>Viewing artistic creation as a chore
>>744378214Not going to happen because latex doesn't breath. Material science has to invent latex that lets the skin breath asap. Thinking about it more they probably shouldn't invent it or I won't be able to go through the day with a constant boner. Right now I'm pretty much immune to females because normal cloths or the lack of them do nothing for me and wet-look pants are not very common.
>type "draw big titty woman" into a prompt>pay Silicon Valley Man 50000000 tokens>get inaccurate drawing of a big titty woman>tfw won't get left behind because I'm now an avantgarde user of AI tools once the future arrives(soon)
>>744382916If that's the cope that helps you live with knowing that you're subhuman, feel free to cope.
>>744383003>latex doesn't breathBut that's the best part. They walk around bathing in their own sweat.
>>744383057>waah waah
>>744382990>Viewing artistic creation as a choreSo if you get a job at a game studio and go to sleep for the entire day, you believe you will still have a job?I was right when I said you contradict yourself. Is art a career that requires manual labor that gets compensated for, or is it free expression where money is not a goal or constraint?You can't have both faggot.
>>744383069For you and me and every latex enjoyer out there that is great, but it's just not practical for femoids soaking in thear sweat the whole day.
>>744383069Women don't wanna do that though.
>>744383153Yeah just like they don't want to wear heels.
uh oh the hylic is having a meltie
>>744381353Open source AI, be it self hosted or collaborative etc.. all can be beneficial or not. Its just a tool, but unlike the proprietary bit designed to sell perpetual connection subscription to their APIs, its at your behest. You could use it to generate stupid memes, but that's about as enriching as using photoshop or gimp to do the same thing. There are SillyTavern threads for text based RPG games, and embedding it into other things that could be fun, to say nothing for the porn bits. Want to feel like you're Batman or in Star Trek, you can add AI to manage your OpenHAB/HomeAssistant home automation software, so you can come home and say >Okay, show me all of today's deliveries visible on the front door cam, and tell me what time they arrived and by which carrier? Its what you make of it. My customized Kodi / Jellyfin torrent and NZB streaming debrid setup has made my life and that of my family much better being able to watch everything with a unified UI etc Games on my backlog do the same - I've picked up stuff on sale I really enjoy when I get around to playing, even if its years after it launched and the 'buzz' isn't a big issue. Social media I grant is garbage but that's more because of how it was designed overall for engagement - forums, MMOs, chat, imageboards, newsgroups and other online socialization can be enjoyable and some experimental or niche alternatives to social media serve as harm reduction (fediverse, if you host your own or pick the right instances and depending on the platform you're seeking) and getting people off the major spyware bullshit.Having control of your access to AI, media or the rest of it is core to managing it for your own benefit. If you can't do that for whatever reason that may be a you problem, not a technology problem - depression, addiction, whatever it may be, but while choice paralysis exists, I'd rather people have tech open to serve their needs as they desire to use as much or little.
>>744383040>get inaccurate drawing of a big titty womanI never got an inaccurate ai drawing of "big tits".
>>744383218Sadly they don't anymore. I haven't seen once one wearing heals at work.
>>744383092>Is art a career that requires manual labor that gets compensated for, or is it free expression where money is not a goal or constraint?Why can't it be both, you fucking retard? Is your mind incapable of imagining a world where someone can create art both for intrinsic purpose, and for extrinsic validation? Mankind would still create art without money. Mankind will also pay good money for good art. Art is a skill, it's a job, and it can be an intrinsic element of life, all at the same time. I'd argue that art created for its own sake, or for one's self first, would be more "true" art, if such a distinction matters. But you don't get a job as an artist without making art for yourself first. You don't go into that field in the first place without the underlying desire to create, even if the industry is intent on crushing you for all you're worth.
>>744383092Is playing football a career that requires manual labor that gets compensated for, or is it free expression where money is not a goal or constraint?
>>744377198>pricing it accordinglyso $0?
>>744381551The absolute state.
>>744381748That first trailer was mostly slop too though.
>>744382704>its higher quality because it moves moreretard
>>744383325>Why can't it be both, you fucking retard?No employer worth their salt would ever pay someone to sit on their ass all day and do nothing. If you accept a job then you accept the contract that says you must do work for them.>Is your mind incapable of imagining a world where someone can create art both for intrinsic purpose, and for extrinsic validation? You are describing Communist societies where lazy people contribute nothing while expecting to be rich at the same time.It's an oxymoron that always leads to collapse or food shortages. > Art is a skill, it's a job, and it can be an intrinsic element of life, all at the same time.That's all fine as long as the money comes from your own pocket and not others. >You don't go into that field in the first place without the underlying desire to create, even if the industry is intent on crushing you for all you're worth.You could say the same about Janitors. What you did before you sign the job contract is none of my business. But when you do sign the paper you give up your right to bitch about being forced to work for it.
>>744377731You dob't know because half of what you wrote comes from exaggerated deformations of the truth + ignorance.I'd base my opinion on a real korean citizenbefore taking yours into account.
>>744383040mindboggling how quickly AI art generation degraded from local unfiltered stable diffusion setup on your own machine to "gotta pay Silicon Valley Man 5 gorillion tokens"first SD thread on 4chan was what, 2 years ago? not even?Stable diffusion is still there bro, and it was always able to deliver on "draw big titty woman"and don't blame Silicon Valley Man for this, this is purely on the slop-brained consooomerSlop is all you deserve
>>744383556You're arguing things so off-topic of the point I was making that I'll chalk it up to mental retardation, or deliberate malice.
>>744382485>comparing the two "cheap" options where one option is unacceptably lower qualityYou're so close but still missing the point. The unacceptably low quality "cheap" option obviously gets better with the technology, but it is still objectively lower quality than what higher end production value can deliver. The result is now a new "slop" quality tier is introduced for the same cost as the "low" quality from before, "mid" quality content is produced for the same price as the "low" quality content from before thanks to the technology, and a the "high" quality content is now cannibalized out of the market to maximize profit and minimize cost. The end result is the overall average quality drops. Sure the worst things got better, but the best things aren't as good anymore.
>>744383424Is that really a "gotcha" anon? Football is even more competitive because you want the most physical and fit athlete on your team. A lazy and fat person who demands they should be paid for touching a ball while running out of breath just standing would be laughed out of the god damn industry.
>>744383613>conviniently doesnt mention the real problem
>>744383667I accept yout defeat.Go back to eating out of trashcans with your useless art degree.
>>744383556Going to have to go with>>744383667Your reading comprehension skills are on the level of a pet rock.
>>744383724And you're an unemployed neet that society laughs at everyday. Go find a real job buddy.
>>744383715Nah, I'm a tradesman who ALSO makes money from art commissions on the side. I draw for myself, and shape steel for others, though if someone wants to pay for my art, that's fine too. Sorry I'm not the strawman you thought you were arguing with.
>>744383678It is a "gotvha" yes. Is the act of playing football a paid job or a lesiure activity. No "well uhhhh it depends" hand-wringing and pussyfooting around. You can't have both. Pick one.
honestly the faster we can kill luddies the better
>>744381517Did you just hit your head and spew buzzwords all over the place or did you fuck up quoting? You can't be dumb enough to suggest that an alternative to wanting a handful of corporations controlling and squeezing your nuts for cash for everything related to these technologies is "woke".>>744381608Not sure about that guy, but we do have a choice we just have to be willing to actually push for it, including legal regulations. These companies are propped up by lobbying, banks, and gov't using it to provide an illusion that our economy isn't in the toilet - but everyone in the real world knows that things have only gotten worse and faster in the past two years. We could push for legislation that requires any AI model or company that is built with public money or for any public/gov't use, has to be FOSS. Basically you hamstring their ability to spend billions of subsidized bank loans and sweetheart deals for their data centers and We The People get nothing for it but the opportunity to buy access to their super secret model - repeated for each company so they can compete with the other 5 at the top and nobody else can afford to do so. If you really had balls you could simply make it illegal to blackbox and have any proprietary models at all, but we know that there will be limitless screaming, but even without that we can create a state where if you want to do anything meaningful and offer it to other people, it can't be a blackbox 'trade secret' . After all, even the power, water, and computing resources would be less stretched if it was everyone building and improving FOSS model forks atop each other, rather than redundant shit so they can sell their proprietary information. We just need to start demanding regulations to lead to these outcomes where we all get the benefit instead of a handful of companies jockying for the top fiefdom that all the serfs pay to work on with both cash and their data.
>>744383424What do you express in a game with rigid rules, retard
>>744383824From the looks of things, the luddites are gonna live longer, or did you forget all the complications that came from trusting the science a few years back?
>>744383812You idiot, I just explained that athletes do more than just kick a ball since even fat people could do the same. Getting and maintaining a physically fit body is worth a lot more that it's worth paying for the strongest person.There is no art equivalent, especially since machines can do anything creative humans can.
>>744383862>What do you express in a game with rigid rules, retardYour life has rigid rules. I guess there's no room for self expression as long as the laws of physics exist. You sure got him.
the reason I know AI art generation will dominate the next century and prolly more is that the porn industry has embraced it.Anyone that has even a faint understanding of tech history knows that the porn industry has since the dawn of time been the forerunner of tech adaption.From cave painting over lithographs, cd rom, 3d art you name it, if the porn industry embraced it, chances were very high that tech would dominate the future.
>>744383905Answer the question
>>744383218Yes. Women are wearing heels for day to day a whole lot less these days. They mostly only wear them if it's in a professional setting (and even then it's not high heels) or for "pretty" socializing.
>>744383862Physical art is a thing. Also look up the etymology of the word "art" you fucking cretin.Now back to the actual topic of the conversation and the answer you're so reluctant to give. I ask again. Is football a leisure activity or a job? By your own retard logic, it cannot be both. So which is it? "leisure" or "job" are the only acceptable responses to my post. Linking to this post with any words other than those two is your open admission of being a drooling mouthbreather.
>>744383798That only makes your hatred of ai art more confusing.It's clear you don't have to work in a sweatshop to make art yet why would you want other (artists) to suffer that fate?I rather have respect for artists who can sustain money for themselves and thus make their own rules and schedules, rather than lash out against a tool that democratizes art for everyone.
>>744383969answer the question please
>>744383893Is merely possessing a fit body a self indulgent activity or a job? Can't have both, faggot. So whicch is it?
>>744383942>the porn industry has since the dawn of time been the forerunner of tech adaption.Though, counterpoint, the current porn industry is a tool controlled by the elites (read: jews and friends) to push certain agendas, since they quickly picked up on that power. If you've looked at a normie porn site recently, they're certainly pushing certain things quite hard.>>744383998>why would you want other (artists) to suffer that fate?Simple: The sweatshop makes better products than AI. If I'm paying money, I want quality. If I'm being paid money, I output quality.
>>744384038Are you going to pay me? If not, why should I?
>>744383521I have shown evidence of AI improving the original work. Deal with it.
>>744384040>Is merely possessing a fit body a self indulgent activity or a job?Yes. Fat people choose not to be strong and they intentionally dilute their body with junk food. None of those traits are good for a professional sports team who cares about WINNING.If an athlete is willing to stay in shape and score the most goals, then that's something society wants to compensate because no machine can easily replace that.
>>744383998>democratizes art for everyone.Also AI images aren't "Art". You're not democratizing art. I also don't hate AI either. It's just not art. I hate laziness, and I hate cost cutting measures that result in worse products.
>>744376495>everyone wants to support your game>keep doing shit like this that alienates peopleCrazy.
>>744383556>No employer worth their salt would ever pay someone to sit on their ass all day and do nothing.NTA but that's entirely dependent on the job the employee is being paid for and/or how autistic your definition of "do nothing" is.After all, life model is a job that can be financially compensated, and you literally do have to "sit there and do nothing" because moving around defeats the point of being a model in the first place.
>>744384118>>Is merely possessing a fit body a self indulgent activity or a job?>Yes.see>>744383092You can't have both, faggot.
>>744384060>Simple: The sweatshop makes better products than AI. If I'm paying money, I want quality. If I'm being paid money, I output quality.We've reached a point where AI can be used to improve cartoons and anime that already cost millions of dollars to animate the traditional way.Sorry anon but facts are facts. Human labor is losing value when machines can pull it off better for cheaper now.
>>744384205>You can't have both, faggot.Lol, yes you can, retard. Imagine thinking you can't have nuance or duality in the human condition. Imagine limiting yourself to some kind of false dichotomy for no particular reason or gain. One man's hobby can be another man's job. Hell, one man's hobby can ALSO be that man's job.
>>744383893>he thinks sportsfags aren't going to be replacedlmaohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QY62StK14ktick tock, performing monkey
Hobby is a pointless dichotomy. Enjoying something is subjective and therefore has no inherent value. (Like art!)
>>744384286>improveI don't have a reaction image to convey the particular combination of smug incredulity and genuine concern I'm feeling right now, so I'd ask you to imagine it, but I doubt you can even rotate an apple in your head.
>>744384198Even if we took your example to the extreme, why don't we see life models being plucked off from the street? Such as tweakers or crack addicts? There's still a baseline or skill level needed that filters out even the laziest people from applying. However, my original point said that a game studio would almost never hire someone to just sit on their ass all day because games are a product of manual labor and not aura. If you refuse to do manual labor than the game studio has a right to fire you because you don't bring value.
>>744384292You're either too fucking stupid and lost in the sauce to realise I quoted you or you are a dumbfuck moron who stumbled onto a conversation he does not understand the context of. Whichever the case your IQ is clearly in the single digits.
it's kinda funny that westoids are so anti-ai when it's their society that needs it the most
>>744384409>Such as tweakers or crack addicts?Because tweakers and crack addicts are on uppers which makes them twitchy, defeating the whole point of hiring someone to model for an art class.
