I heard this got censored a lot, is there an explicit list of changes?I heard the secons game was already toned down when it released, was that one touched at all?
>>744406745Here's what I've heard mentioned>Any scene where a girl appears naked she's in a bath towel instead or if she's in water the water is opaque>Any scene where a girl is in her underwear it's replaced with less revealing undergarments (I don't know the proper term but they look like little half night gowns)>Bonuses for dialogue have been retooled so flirty choices are always the worst option that give the least points>All of the DLC outfits and content are unavailable>Clothing no longer becomes wet and semitransparent in rain
>>744407527That is odd....sounds like i should just buy second lightI already owned the first game but have not played it yet
>>744406745>was that one touched at all?they removed most of the sexy DLC
>>744407672theres no reason to buy Quartet even if you liked the game, just buy the original second game. But dont wait for a discount on Steam, since the remaster was announced it never got discounted again
>>744407527Good post, yeah.Another Blue Reflection thread was just archived. Is this going to be another Blue Reflection thread that reaches the bump limit? Maybe, maybe not.
>>744407991We can try and make it one
>>744407527Oh, also at least one scene where a girl removes her panties and tosses them off while stepping into the shower was edited so rather than her panties being shown lying on the ground it's just a pile of towels.
Why are they declaring outright war on anime ever since 2020? This kind of thing has been prevalent since then and getting worse and worse with each passing year. By 2030 you won't even be allowed to own an anime game, censored or not.
>>744407527I preordered Asian English physical release but now I'm kinda of regretting it
>>744407527Oh, not all girls get the little nightgowns, some get tank tops and shorts.
actually playing BFQ for the first time against my better judgment, was surprised at how the first Sephira boss was a biblically accurate angel. Used to magical girl monsters to be cuter or something, or geometric shapes
>>744407527>Flirty choices are always the worst optionwhat the fuck, this sounds more like an EVIL remaster because they hate the fans of the originals
>>744408134Which game is that in?
>>744408327The first one of course.
>>744406745>KT censored DOA6 like crazy>flopped twice>”uh let’s censor a game with worse gameplay than DOA whose only redeeming feature is the lewdness lol”Huh?
>>744408440You haven't played Blue Reflection if you say that the "only redeeming feature is the 'lewdness'".
Only gooners care about the "censorship" AKA removing elements that they didn't want to add in the first place but were forced to add by their publisher. Now that more eyes in the world are on Japan they have to tone down that pointless pedophilic content, and good riddance.
>>744408440Actually, the redeeming feature is the music. I've been thinking about this for a while, but Atelier also has way better music than it deserves.
>>744406745>60 reviewsgiga flop and shamefur display
>both games I was excited for that came out this week are censored
>>744407527>Bonuses for dialogue have been retooled so flirty choices are always the worst option that give the least pointscan you elaborate on this? which game is it relevant to
>>744408659Hoeeee...
>>744408672The first game. It probably means that if Hinako jokingly agrees to swap underwear with Shihori, the level of affection increases less compared to the original version if it increases at all (even though it makes sense in context of the scenes or game of course).
>>744407527the fact that its actually even more censored than initially revealed is just so retarded. They really went scorched earth with this shit
>>744408180I'm regretting my preorder because of Blue Reflection Sun and Ray pretending to actually be extra content.
Anyone else encounter stuttery movement on PC? It's like when you walk there's this jitter every time the animation reaches a certain point and it's really distracting. Don't remember having this issue back when I was playing the original games, I wonder if it's tied to my FPS maybe?
>>744408983I heard the game has odd performance issues
>>744408983https://blue-reflection.com/quartet/us/products/rendering.html(May fluctuate based on the scene and your settings.)
>>744408964>the one guy in Blue Reflection commanding his harem of subordinate femalesthis game is so funny because it pisses off both sides of the aisle
>>744406745EVERY SINGLE THINGNO EXCEPTIONS
>>744408045Her face genuinely is unsettling to me here. Idk why
>>744409068REEEE
>>744407527>changing GAMEPLAY, not just visualswhat a bunch of shitters, i really hope the previous releases shot up in sales and this one is left forgotten
>>744408672It's an affinity thing. Think like Persona where you get more bond points for choosing the right option. All the flirty options (yuri) got nerfed so now the girls don't "like" those options as much.
>>744406745>>744407527>>744407672same fag
>>744408964Well, one at least includes actual playable fights. Sadly they are apparently super easy.
>>744409795No u
>>744409795No, fag
>>744407527Most of this only really applies to the original Blue Reflection as everything else was post 2018. (2024 if you want to single out Nintendo of America's changes)The naked textures are still there, but the towel does indeed replace parts where they couldn't just zoom/crop to make it acceptable. The bath sequences only have Hinako since it was a separate thing from the school showers post-gym. It can be interpreted as she was the last one to get in the bath for the night (Japan likes to save water with heated tubs so the whole family can have a hot bath)It's a camisole and skirt combo. Nothing uncommon for a girl to wear under a school uniformI can't say about the dialouge having only played Ray/Sun walking simulators so far.The clothes do get wet, just the summer uniform is not as see-through. In general the selectable options are limited to what a schoolgirl would reasonably wear at school (Uniform, Gym clothes, school swimsuit) and anything else is only seen during events. All the other outfits were from a $80 season pass in the original version which is still available for purchase. Second Light does get the preorder bikini, but not the rabbit hat that was a bonus for finishing the demo. Once again the DLC costumes are not present.
>>744410325The new models for Ray and Sun actually have the boob bounce from the newer Atelier and DOA games
>>744410605Love this dumb retard
>>744410597too bad no one will play Sun
>>744410597
>>744410862I will you dumbo, also playing the offline version of Sun at the same time for the CG events.
>>744410325Is clothes getting wet only a first game thing or second game too? It sounds like censorship stuff hit secons light as it released versus this new quartet release
>>744411407The first game really did it but they already toned it down in second light.
>>744411608as opposed to the first game
>>744406745Who gives a shiesty ahh shitWhats the plot of sun beginning to end.
Is there any butthole nude mods so you can see their nude buttholes i wanna see their buttholes please thank
>>744406745Imagine unironically giving a fuck about a piece of shit that's not only censored but clearly hates its own fans and has no clear direction as well. You BRfags are the blue balls of video game community
>>744410597>We've removed a lot of the sex appeal to adapt to modern sensibilities>But as a treat we've added a little bit of new sex appeal in via jiggling high schooler boobsI am confusion.
>>744407527I wonder if there is a way to uncensor that stuff or if it's hard coded into the game.
>>744413721Camera in the shower badGirl's large breasts bouncing when she runs normal.
safe...
Lime butthole....
>>744406745kudos for nips for nod delisting old games(so far)
>>744406745I think it'd be easier to make a list of things that aren't censored at this point.
>>744414452they wont delist them but you wont ever see them discounted again
>>744414620yuphindsight is a bitchhad i known idve bought it last time it was on sale in july 2025another good option that rarely is used is thiswould be kino i they gave you the OGs when buying the rerelease but japs not gonna do itonly some westeners do it
>>744414452I legit think it was a tactical move.Censor new releasw but add tons of QoL and new content even if its minor content in the grand scheme of things, but censor it so its not the "complete version"Sell old uncensored version at full price with all dlc individually listed but without all the QoL it is also not the "complete version"All the ryza games got delisted for her tripple pack release but that release really didnt do anything new beyond some characters and sold for 120 bucks iirc. While this packsold for 50, which is insane for a koei product, and also has the 2 game episodes added in as well
>>744413785Thank you programmer Takeshi-kun for hard coding jiggle physics into the engine.
>>744414724its ethical to pirate this game
>>744414742ryza rereleases worth it?never played them.i think for now ill just pirate blue reflection on my vita if i ever decide to fix it up
>>744414875Unlike this BR rerelease the Dx versions of Atelier games are definitely the best version of them.
>>744414875The ryza releases are goos now. They have extra playable characters, small new story content as well to connect all the games.There is no censorship changes, has all the dlc, though i think ryza 2 and 3 were brought up to speed and put into the ryza 3 engine. The colors are in general more vibrant and there is a lot less bloom in the DX versions. Its not the best image but here is an exampleIts from this video. Unfortunately i couldnt find a pc comparisonhttps://youtu.be/ZRJg9JfOj7M
>>744415240God damn i cant type.Ryza 1 and 2 were brought up to speed i mean. Also by my saying the games are good now...i forgot to mention how at release the dx collection was notably laggy and had like 50 second load times compared to the 5 second load times the game originally had.Anyways, the DX releases can easilly be argued to be definitive
>>744410325Huh, Hinako and Yuzu's bodies look a lot more visible in the rerelease.
>>744415114>>744415240>>744415356thanks. i was worried it will just be another gutted rerelease.ill keep this in mind though ryza is a low priority for me rn.also shame that even keys for blue reflection are barely any cheapersame went for ryza before it got delisted
>>744409073They kind of water down all this and went 180 after the gacha announced eos iirc even the ending gacha story shorts on him
>>744415575Exact opposite of gutted. More playable characters, all the cute/sexy fan service outfits for free, all DLC included and even some QoL perks like higher inventory size.
>>744417285Im glad they let agnes be playable, but im so goddamn happy romy was made playable. I just wish they made picrel playable as well. I also dont think they let sera be playable in 3 which i think is a crime, or was it clifford? I genuinely cant remember
>>744407991>>744406745>>744407527>A much more relevant thread died for thisYou BR schizos would make great sacrifices for ISIS and other terrorist groups.
>>744417608Nice ai faggot
>>744408318>>744407527>flirty choices are always the worst optionThis is the one thing I really can't forgive, to be honest. I'm not too fond of the other censorship too, but that alone wouldn't be that big of a deal for me. This, however, I simply cannot understand. Girls flirting with each other is, like, absolutely normal behavior even in real life.
>>744417704Even AI is better than Blue Retard, retard
Are there any BR mods that make it more cel-shaded? The shading has always looked really off to me.
>>744417820Kill yourself you literal faggotroon, go die along with your thread
>>744406745Blue Reflection? More likeBlue RetardationBlue RectumBlue RoidsBLUE BALLS!
Are there any BR mods that make them look like My Little Pony characters?
>>744406745>This retard thread againQuick /v/chads. Post yfw you're not a BR cuck
>>744406745>sony has marketing exclusivity rightsyeah that explains the censorship
>>744415240>There is no censorship changesbecause it was kosherslop from the start with shorts and black void panties
>>744409073You self-insert faggots are a joy to laugh at. And so does this worthless piece of shit of a "series".>>744408180>He boughted itLMAOing at you right now. What a cuck.
what is this mental illness
>>744409795Based>>744409903>>744410054Seethe
>>744408582GST is long gone dude.
>>744415240>There is no censorship changesYeah because they were already censored.
>>744407527Damn. Just boycott KT at this point. Why straight up rape a game like this? Do they really think more people will buy it because yay it's bland and safe now?
>>744422950At this point I think they want people to buy the original and then pay the $80 for the DLC pass.Quartet has pretty much no DLC from the originals outside of a bikini.
>>744422950Bro Takaichi is like western cuckservatives, you think there will be less censorship? Their whole platform is "be angry about China while we cuck to Israelmerica"
>>744423274Does it make him money? If not, shove it off to one of the nofap conservative bros.
>>744423462English?
>>744415356>had like 50 second load timesthat was fixed a few days after release
Don't respond to bikinischizo.
>>744407527Okay so just pirate the games individually and avoid this shit. Got it.
>>744424057Are those even their original bikinis?
>>744422792Takaichi literally is DEI you fucking retard. None of this censorship has to do with politics, its all shareholder demand.
>>744407527The actual fans already played the originals anyway
>>744425141>I thought Takaichi and Onoda fights for freedom of expressionThey do care about artists creative freedom but they dont give a shit about anything beyond that. Jiminto is literally a left wing party pretending to be right wing.>>744425180Replace shareholders with jews (although its basically the same thing) and yes.
>>744425347>kicking away gaijins who cannot pay the tax and pension. And increasing the cost for perma residence.Deadbeats shouldnt be allowed in Japan, however all the gorilla niggers and Indians are exempt from this.
This guy posting style is exactly the same as that wumao from that chink propaganda fps game thread
>>744425592
>>744414442Lime's underwear.
>>744406745Here >>744371818Look at the 5 first pics of the thread.
>>744425730>"Jew don't control anything!"Says the jew that will deplatform, debank, and try to get you arrested if you get too uppity.
>>7444259712 - 4 - bi like a little cream in my coffee but i dont like sugar. i hate cheap coffee more than anything since its not smooth.
>>744423274LOOOOL
>>744426127>when Takaichi who is anti DEI and pro freedom of expressionShe's not, she essentially did a rugpull.
>>744426127In English?
>>744425076>>744426127Sex specifically with Sophie.
>>744426127>picbruh, that's safehorny as fuck
>>744406745I'll wait for the uncensored mods I guess
>>744426546Based on what was said in the previous thread, it's faster and easier to just pirate the original games because they made extensive changes to the demake that require more than just a texture/model swap.
>>744426594That's not a bikini, retard.She's clearly wearing a short and something to cover her bikini top.>and Ryza trilogy DX which didn't had censorship?It literally retained the censorship of the orignal games.
>>744426882KT started censoring/toning down lewdness with Sophie 2.And no.
>>744426973>skirt of copeYes.I don't think you understand what a bikini is.
nvm, I just realized I'm talking to bikini schizofuck you and kill yourself
>>744427115lol gottem
>>744425946this is because they failed to manage social media by the way
>>744408163Cus manga and anime have been obliterating western non movie comics and media. People flocked to foreign entertainment cus... well you know why, and japanese stuff was one of the stuff that boomed because of it. It was a huge medium they could not control for the longest time. In the last 10 or so years though... the uh... usual suspects that has their hand in western media have been buying into japanese parent companies,with some welcoming etc etc and thats why youre seeing an increase in this type of shit done to japanese games manga and anime. Its kinda over for japanese media desu. Its ok now but its increasingly going to get more""western" if you catch my drift. Theyre just late to the party.
>>744427146FW is still goykosher shit due to being 3 houses 2, way too many browns.
>>744408632Lemme guess, all the reviews are negative?
>>744426127wtf is rawg
>>744427885>the uh... usual suspects that has their hand in western media have been buying into japanese parent companies,with some welcoming etc etc and thats why youre seeing an increase in this type of shit done to japanese games manga and anime. Its kinda over for japanese media desu.literally they only care about already-westernized sloppa, which is comicalcrying about kadokawa shitting the bed is like crying about post-ps3 square enix shitting the bed, you're a tourist that saw the problem way too latespending literal billions trying to take control of kadokawa to force from to make elden ring 2 is absolutely fucking hysterical FROM has never made an anime/japanese game in the first place, they are westaboos since king's field if not earlier>oh but they would also control the kadokawa anime and mangaas if those were worth jack shit when they are off-brand shounensloppa in an isekai skinsuit at best, literal westernified abridged parodies at worstwho the fuck would mourn this shit aside from ironic weebs?
>>7444259710: I don't like steak. It's too chewy, or my teeth are very sharp. 4A. As it turns out, black coffee is very good for you(?) but I'm just getting older and for health reasons don't need to be drinking sugar all the time
>>744407527>>Bonuses for dialogue have been retooled so flirty choices are always the worst option that give the least pointsI'mean i'm glad it's finally dead so they won't rape it anymore but to go down with souch sad fart......
Can someone post Hosoi or whoever wearing that WEF pin? It was during one of the Sun streams they did.
>>744430323He wears it in all appearances for the last several years. Don't remember when he first started wearing it though.
i no longer want Lulua DX.
>>744430798>DXGet out.
>>744430798And I once wanted a Dusk 4. No longer. Also an Asano-less Gust to me is dead and while Mel is an AGP cuck, he did knew how to design appealing characters, so if Mel doesn't design anything (good?) anymore, Gust is dead to me.
>>744406745A thread died for this?
>>744431240Is that a question? Are you unsure?
>>744406745>>744407527>>744410325How did the japs get so fucking raped so fast? 10 years ago none of this would have been even remotely an issue.
>>744431752A lot of normalfags had no clue how weird the media can actually get, for a very long time they had no idea. Over the last decade though, with social media etc., what was once unknown to their eyes is now very plain for all to see. So a bunch of corporate and government forces have even taken notice and started fucking up their media and pop culture. At the same time westoid pop culture has been losing so badly to Japanese media that they have to resort to outright banning and butchering their stuff. Kinda funny.
>>744430792Japan is in lockstep with the agenda.
I know these games aren't about the gameplay, but what is the gameplay?
>>7444327513 schoolgirls niggas in a row kinda gameplay. And handholding.
>>744425592It's literally either that or nobody restocking the convenience store. They already got rid of the ladies selling snacks on the train because of the labor shortage.
>>744417608Suck my dick, puriteen.
>>744430323>>744430792>Can someone post Hosoi or whoever wearing that WEF pin?A ton of senior Japanese company people wear these. It's just something that get and don't think much about.
>>744407527>censor your game to hell and back>add the male from the gacha>piss off coomers and yurifags>sub 70 review flop>never make a blue reflection game againPottery
>>744414875>>744415575Gust/Koei don't fuck up the DX releases for Ateloer unlike blue reflection. They often even add more sexy outfits/swimsuits and of course more content/characters. No idea what they were thinking with quartet other then mental retardation.
>>744413737hot
So the originals still exist? Any chance someone will make a mod that combines the two.
>>744435137I mean. This rerelease is a glorified launcher for the two games. You can just launch them from Steam and get the same experience that way. Or there are custom launchers you can install that are like a way better version of Steam's Big Picture Mode. Like way better.
>>744427885>its increasingly going to get more""western" if you catch my driftThat's alright, I love cowboy stuff especially Gunsmoke, that show is hilarious.
>>744435202No I mean, didn't quartet add new content or higher res textures or something? So just take the original uncensored ones and mod in the additions no?
>>744435291They should make a Blue Reflection western in which the girls transform into magical cowgirls to shoot outlaws and Indians.>>744435373There is a little new content, and supposedly the textures and lighting are a bit better. I don't know enough about how the assets are being handled to say how easy it would be to do any modding of that nature, though.
I was waiting for this game but I naively forgot about retarded devs and "modern sensibilities"Fuck me for getting excited about anything
>>744431752The fallout of the GamerGate-Feminism War combined with MeToo rapidly changed the scope of what was acceptable to publish in the west, and because of mass social media, normies and even lesser weebs quickly internalized the cultural changes and became enforcers for it themselves.At the same time, the rise of mobile phone games and gacha dealt a heavy blow to Japan’s traditional game market, and then COVID hit and completely devastated the entire country’s economy. As a result, Japanese game developers can no longer afford to stand up to western standards when the west is increasingly threatening to cut them off from western income at a time when they need it most. This doesn’t just affect games; anime and manga are also way more tame than they were before the turn of the decade because they are mainly reliant on western streaming services for the majority of their revenue now instead of Japanese TV and blu ray sales.>>744434121Most Atelier games are fairly tame fanservice-wise. The Arland games are the main source of fanservice that would be objectionable by post-MeToo standards. Thankfully those had their DX releases on modern platforms before the censorship went away into full swing, but if they ever do rereleases or remakes for those down the line you can bet your ass they’ll be censored. Totori alone has a number of scenes which would probably get it banned from Steam were it released as is today because Totori is under 18 for most of the game.
>>744431752>>744432512>>744435906so which chinkgook gachaslop got censored this time that there's another wave of anti-japan spam?
>>744436326Nexon pulled a nexon with blue archive.Also their new CEO is THE one feminist gigajew, and he pulled this during one of the most highly anticipated cunny banners from what I hear, so expect him to use this as an excuse to pivot the game away from lolis harder than it already was.
Reddit is having a MASSIVE melty over this re-release lmaohttps://www.reddit.com/r/Atelier/comments/1vbwldk/i_really_want_to_say_this_i_hate_the_negativity/
>>744407527>Clothing no longer becomes wet and semitransparent in rainLegitimately deleting TECHNOLOGY from your game pisses me off.
>>744436762Looks more or less the same as threads here.>Censorship bad>No, censorship good if it makes people I don't like angry>Anyone who finds a girl attractive who is slightly below the age of consent in the state of California is a pedophile>Blue Reflection is an ecchi game, so what is the point of censoring it?>Blue Reflection is not an ecchi game, so why does anyone care about it being censored?
>>744436762>the anti-censorship crowdStopped reading. Dude's a giant faggot.
>>744435757It's not the devs, it's their parent companies forcing them through these kinds of humiliation rituals.
>>744418853Thats the second(i think?) and third gameThe first game you can literally spin klaudia around to see her highly detailed panties and pantyhose
>>744436762Asked Gemini to analyze the thread, and it's truly fascinating.>Left-leaning fans who originally played the games for their JRPG mechanics or magical girl tropes suddenly realize the game's fanservice looks indefensible in the eyes of their political peers. To protect their own social standing, they reactionarily distance themselves by using extreme rhetoric, moving the goalposts so that anyone criticizing corporate cuts is instantly framed as a predator, with comments like "if the extent of why you hate censorship is because you can't see children's underwear you probably belong on a list".
So im just assuming>play the first game outside of the collection>the second game is already pretty censored so play it in quartet because its cheaper there and has QoL stuffIs that right?
>>744438385>To protect their own social standingLeftoid ideology in a nutshell.
What do they eat
>>744438662Hamburgers.
>>744438385I'm surprised that gewgle piece of shit managed to output that text without trying to put its own programmed political spin, or didn't simply reply with "I'm sorry, I can't help with that request."
>>744414620Damn... smart move
>>744438662I'm pretty sure they made a curry or something in the second game. Maybe other kinds of foods too, I don't remember.
>>744438745Create the problem, then sell you the solution. Except in this case, they've been sitting on the solution for a long time anyways, and created the problem as a means to extract more value out of it.
>>744438662
>>744438876Maybe Kokoro shouldn't have eaten the last takoyaki after all.
>>744438426Depends on which QoL stuff you want and how much you're willing to pay. The Quartet version has fast forward and bonus characters, but the original has DLC like Ether Synthesis and bonus dungeons that weren't included. It COULD have been the definitive version, but they had to unnecessarily cut actual content as well as bikini DLC.
>>744438707ironically gemini, grok and a few other ai's are pretty open minded, chatgpt is the only HR lady ai on the market that's popular
>23 english reviews, 70 japanese/chinese reivews>of the 23 english reviews half are negative>of the 70 japanese and chinese reivews 85% are negative>this few reviews in generalwhat went wrong
>>744440325>Create a "collection" of all four titles>The two actual games are missing content from their original releases>The two new "games" are half-assed asset flips that barely last a few hours between them>Gives new players a worse experience than they would have gotten before Quartet's existence>Offers practically negative value for series veteransThis isn't a celebration of Blue Reflection. It was them killing it for good.
>>744440325More and more people are realizeing that KT is censorship-happy.It was the same for DOA6LR a month ago (on top of mishandling the DLC) and it killed most of the hype for DOA7 as collateral.>>744440529Somehow, I suspect it was on purpose, so they could tell the suits "see? There's no audience for these games, otherwise they would have bought them regardless of censorship"
>>744407672only played the first one and it's a solid 5/10. really short, really easy, girls are cute.
>>744407672Pirate the second game, it was already censored to begin with.
>>744438662vagina. the joke is lesbians.
>>744406745Pretty sure they nerfed only the first game to get this through ethics departments etcYou get this kind of stuff like 15 mins into Sun
>>744443567The gacha also got censored (thanks to apple this time) and this version carry over the censorship.
>>744443778>this version carry over the censorship.I mean, not really as far as I can tell? The illustrations don't appear in Q Sun, I assume because of the story rework (Leader is more of a background character in this)
>>744435607Reminds me of one little-known show
>>744406745>>744408632>>744428169BR and fags deserve nothing but pain and misery. They're not just the laughing stock of video games but a fucking disgrace to mankind as well. I can't imagine these "people" wasting their time with this fucking shit
>>744406745I wish every wokeshit game especially ones with uglyass bitches like TLOU2, Horizon, Nu-GOW, and Gaylo remake is just like censored bullshit: dead, buried, and forgotten
>>744408964Is it bad? That's the only content I was interested in for this bundle. I don't care for yurislop
>>744444769To maintain their dominance.>>744444919Considering how it only took Japan 1 year to suddenly become clean, it honestly feels like a random ranking they use to pressure countries into doing their bidding.
I only just realized that enemy encounters dont give EXP. That probably explains why you get full health/MP every fight...
>>744444769this is Nintendo's fault, Blue Reflection wasnt censored until it came to Switch
>>744414452They can't because it would delist the PS4 version as well and Quartet has no last gen port.
sounds like a win for pirate chadstoo bad about your franchise though
I'm so sick and tired of censorship in media. Who is this for? It can't be driving sales.
>>744454860The west, or what KT think the west want.And given how systematic the censorship is for each of their games, it's almost certain that they have an ethic department.Some people will say that payment processors are at fault and this is true too.But in the case of KT (amongst others), they started censoring years before PP were involved.>It can't be driving sales.While DOA6LR and this demaster bombed, KT is doing better than ever.Most people don't know/don't care if a game was censored, see how the Fatal Frame ports did very well even though they were censored.
>>744446046Ray is some convoluted story where the protagonists lose their memories going to the final confrontation and they have to collect fragments and see flashbacks to the anime in still frames. They're just walking around the dungeons from the first game with no enemy encounters.Sun at first looks like it will be a proper game but it's just forcing you to run around the school building to activate events with an occasional pre-planned battle. Each "boss" gives 5 levels but all the other battles give 1exp since it's all scripted. Then when it looks like you can talk to a girl in the hall, it just triggers a side event that doesn't feature the player character at all.
>>744448646What's the point of enemy encounters then
Is it worth it for the new content at least? I've never played the mobage.
>>744458220Some missions require you to kill x amount of enemies, and they have aggressive AI so its more like a punishment for getting caught.
>>744406745How do we honestly feel about Sun confirming that all girls are straight and Shiho having sex with male protag?
>>744408524Gameplay is terribleCharacter interactions are terrible
>>744459101I'm so dumb. I never noticed I wasn't getting exp. I beat the whole game this way. Lol
>>744443778I remember someone posted the original uncensored image and it was really tame and literally just feet lol
>>744461002>just feet>justI think I heard Kishida Mel crying reading that.
>>744440259Huh. Is gemini not the same AI they shove down your throat in every gewgle search? That thing literally can't stop giving me some condescending opinion about everything I search.
>>744461197It is but I think he's talking about what you're allowed to ask.
>thread soon to be 24 hours old>barely 200 posts>most it complains about "leftists" and how they are the only group which members are interested in protecting their social standing and other inane garbage from people who never left their rooms...yeahAtelier franchise was dead since sophie and blue reflection threads always were pathetic self bumps, but this feels like the new low
>>744461562Ah yes, attacking people instead of adressing the censorship issues...
So in the end was Second Light changed in any way in Quartet?
>>744409068Why is the PS5 version 22GB lighter than the PC version while also being 4K...?
>>744460684I only played the first game so not sure if that changed in the second game.
>>744463193Nips still can’t into PC releases without treating them as an afterthought. Console-centric market, prease understando.
>>744408964>add a male character who is the commander of a army of Magical Girl
>>744462658Leftoids aren't capable of arguing in good faith
>>744460684Killing enemies gets you items for upgrading fragments, so it isn't pointless (or at least wouldn't be if the game was difficult enough to require engaging with its mechanics.)>>744463668BR2 has a more traditional experience system.
>>744464034They said they had intended to have a male protagonist from the beginning but couldn't due to "technical issues." I'm wondering if those issues could have come from trying to have all 12 supporting members of the original game also become proper party members as Reflectors, before settling on the final Fragment system.
>>744444873>firing the bullet casings
>>744467005The real issues come from Kishida wishing he was a girl.
>>744467848Well, it's basically magic. Equalizers are very similar to Reflectors, your magical girl form and abilities come from your inner self, and a high school girl's understanding of guns is probably limited.
>>744444873I hadn't heard of that one, but I suppose I shouldn't be surprised that someone did something similar already.
>>744469510It's a show with pretty interesting and unique vibes, it's magical girls but also retro sci-fi (and also basically anime Sliders and Quantum Leap, if anyone remembers those). Sadly the production quickly fell apart, which is why it is little-known despite Uchikoshi Kotaro involvement, and the story resolution didn't make the most of the setup and the foreshadowing. I suppose the gacha was meant to continue it, but the anime version of the characters only appeared there after it was already shut down and received its final offline-mode patch.But man, did it have style. And surprise yuri, at the very end.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrtlHShlD_U
>>744461562Yuzu and Lime love
>>744473640They wear cute underwear.
Competition swimsuits unlock in chapter 3 of Second Light, only for the girls that were in the game originally.
>>744435137The new content isn't meaningful in any way unless you're really excited to play a gutted version of the self insert gacha game. Just play the original Blue Reflection, watch the anime, then play Blue Reflection Tie (Second Light). Pirate them if you must, it's better than paying money for this insultingly awful rerelease.
>>744458326I already played 1 / 2 and watched RayQ Ray is an extended ending + epilogue, not particularly crazyQ Sun I actually ended up liking a lot though, more than I expected really. The characters / side events / main story were the highlight for me, I just find it unfortunate that they didn't include Sun's original OP song or "Soul on Fire"
>>744435906>normies and even lesser weebs quickly internalized the cultural changes and became enforcers for it themselves.And yet when products with healthy amounts of sexual expression slip through the cracks, they tend to perform well.The pro-censorship agenda is entirely a corporate/journalist phenonemon. It's just that most people aren't willing to fuss over it, even if they didn't ask for it. Since the puritans and feminists are loud and nasty about it, they get to dominate the narrative. It's just psychology.
>>744474437Forgot to mention that I did not play the original Sun so I don't really have a good perspective on what was changed / added / removed
>>744474545The problem is that publishers can no longer risk not being able to slip through, it can be a company-ending event in the current state of the industry.
even though Quartet is super censored, Hinako makes me very horny
>>744474965She has above-average breasts and also shows her cleavage as a Reflector and when she's wearing a one piece swimsuit after all.
>>744473640>>744473693Never forget what they took from you
>>744475082They still have the gym short outfit
I'll say it. The game is still enjoyable with those perverted elements removed. Those elements weren't what I liked about the first game, anyways.
>>744475536Amen. The first Blue Reflection is...a beautiful game.
>>744475536It's dumb that they have to spend time making those changes just to please some ethics department / the digital store owners or whatever but yeah ultimately I agree
>>744474182It's not enough to get me to buy Quartet, but I'm kind of interested in the characters added to Tie as well. It's a shame Uta still isn't playable, though.>>744475536I agree. Censorship is still hard to accept, though, even if the censored elements weren't the primary appeal.
>>744475536I hope you at least pirated the game.
It's funny how Precure, a show for little kids with actual ~13 y.o. heroines, feels more unhinged erotically than whatever happened to BR.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANZ2qYtKdMA
>>744476407The ZR in this season's designs are great. Also Kobayashi's ass in a lot of scenes is so pronounced.
>>744476407I don't think precure has ever shown pantsu in 20+ years...Also it's a Maruyama season, dude was a unhinged pantsubro until he got hired by Toei.
>>744476407Where are the bare boobs and see through clothes?
>>744475536Some of the censored elements degrade the overall experience, even if you're not looking to coom. I personally don't care about the fanservice either, but that's no excuse for censorship apologism. Especially when this release is just a low effort cash grab.
>>744406745why can't they just release a new game anyway
>>744477423no money
>>744477938aren't those atelier games making bank these days? I thought they suddenly broke out into the mainstream and started selling like many multiples more than they used to
>>744477423Keeping that for the 10th anniversary, trust the plan
>>744477423Dead franchise. Publishers can only afford so many franchises at once, so they stick to the bigger ones.
>>744477423The Blue Reflection revival trio flopped so this Quartet was the only thing they could justify doing.
>>744478035That was mostly RyzaMy understanding is that Yumia had the strongest launch sales of any Atelier game yet but apparently sales quickly tapered off
>>744478035Ryza specifically was very popular, in big part because of her character design. The rest have, well, okay sales.
>>744406745I never played blue reflection. Should I just get quartet or wait until the original games go on sale?
>>744481517it is extremely unlikely old games will go on sale anymore since quartet is rerelease of older games. last time og BR went on sale was july 2025
>>744476407There's nothing even remotely erotic about this.
>>744481517I hate to recommend piracy, but it's honestly the best option right now.
>>744482871Kek I was thinking the same thing. Idk why your comment in combination with the embedded video made me laugh so much.
>>744476407Anon... what the fuck are you talking about.
>>744438049>californiaDespite what people believe, anime cunny is legal in California as opposed to a bunch of red states. Shocking I know
>>744495107>another pathetic self bump instead of letting thread dieIt's hilarious how you don't have any pride as human being
>>744406745Can you retards just stop bumping your censored shit thread already? Stop giving it attention
>>744478035Koei dumbass sold the atelier girls to azur brothel. They don't have any money left.
They changed 1 skirt physics.
>>744495107Creative image.>>744496237I like that filename. Looking at the UI or buttons that appear right there, I guess it's a glitch in Blue Reflection Quartet for PC? I know that the original PC version uses other icons for the UI, so, it's a glitch in Blue Reflection as part of Blue Reflection Quartet, specifically the PC version, I guess?Yuzu wears the same panties (and bra) in the games.
We should start a movement that says censoring girls in video games is anti-trans. Many trans people have stories of playing as girls in games before realizing they were trans IRL (myself included but I would never pass so I wouldn't actually go trans). Fight fire with fire. If I can't see my own panties as an anime girl in a video game they're basically saying I will never be a woman and am not allowed to even pretend to be one in a fictional story. Why are they oppressing trans rights with their sexist fear mongering censorship? Why are they assuming my gender is male and that I'm an evil pervert because of my assumed maleness? It's both sexist and transphobic. Stop censoring our stories.
>>744497307It won't work because these people don't want to self-insert as another character, they specifically want to self-insert as themselves and a character being too beautiful stop them from doing that.Which is the reason why there's so many ugly characters in western games (to avoid triggering their target audience) or why there's shit like breast removal scars in western games with a character creator despite the setting being a world of magic where having scars wouldn't make sense since they can be healed with magic.
>>744406745so like whats the point of quartet? what are the chances of mods to uncensor it? i remember full metal schoolgirl was censored back in october and uncensored mods were released like 2 days later
>>744498538Low chances because they put a lot of effort into censoring the game and dialogue choices, it's not something that can be fixed by just swapping textures/models or hacking the camera.It's easier and faster to just pirate the original.
>>744498538>so like whats the point of quartetMaking money> what are the chances of mods to uncensor itVery low, because anti censonrship crowd are like vegas, only care about cheap virtue signaling on the internet, over doing anything of value.
>>744498637>>744498864idk if youre being serious but i found a mod for bf1 on quartet that makes them naked https://files.catbox.moe/1pinzf.png
>>744498518I've never fully understood this sort of thing. I'd figure an ugly character would be more triggering? As if the game is a mocking mirror saying "this is how ugly you look and you will never pass"But I guess as a truly SELF-insert of their IRL appearance they want to force the character to be "accepted" and by extension see themselves as "accepted?" I don't really get that, I've worn girly clothes in private it's fun but when I look in the mirror it's like FUCK I just look like shit and I wouldn't want to force anyone to pretend I'm beautiful. Even actual women struggle with this so it would feel insulting to them for me to be all like I'M BEAUTIFUL REEEE.
>>744495278>Grown man impotently seething over the existence of a /v/ thread somehow thinks he displays human dignity
>>744406745so is this a half assed remake of the anime and the gacha?
>>744406745is it worth it?
>>744499538If you haven't played the games and don't have a problem with the censorship/changes to the point of not wanting to play it, of course.
>>744499620itd cost almost $100 to buy the games individuallyis there an extensive list of everything censored?
>>744499827The first post in the thread meantions almost everything, as already mentioned, the changes are only, or mostly, related to the first game.
>>744499538Don't support the vandalization of art.
>>744407527but why
>>744499916>the changes are only, or mostly, related to the first game.so is the second game basically 1-1 with the original?
>>744499974They're high schoolers. You're too old to be looking at them like that.
>>744500168Yes. Blue Reflection: Second Light has fanservice (it lets you put most characters in one piece swimsuits without having to get DLC if you so desire, for example) but it's less compared to the first game. Every Blue Reflection game is rated T for Teen but only the first game has "Partial Nudity" as one of its content descriptors.
>>744499916>>744500168The second game lost all of its DLC, which included numerous sexy outfits plus the bonus areas and dungeons, as well as some crafting QoL mechanics which were also DLC.
why the fuck are people pretending like anybody played this fucking dogshit game? this is seriously a fucking psyop
>>744500347Don't be ridiculous.
>>744500347This thread is 2 days old, it's a single schizo bumping it, no one cares enough to discuss anything (still only 300 posts 2 days later), and he will keep bumping it for 2 more days because jannies are fucking useless.
>>744500347No one's pretending. The thread is transparently slow with like 5 people max posting in it. That's the same number of people on this board who probably played it.
Do Americans like Blue Reflection? I feel like its appeal is less obvious over there because the game doesn't have a lot of rap music or ghetto culture references. It has some,!!75
>>744500425Other Blue Reflection (Quartet) threads were faster as you probably know.
>>744500425A LOT of threads are like that recently. Threads that used to only last a few hours now go a whole day.
>>744500494It has western fans for sure, obviously I mean "look at other places that aren't this notorious site, you'll find Blue Reflection fans and some are passionate", but it's true that the soundtrack of the games, as amazing as they are, won't be appreciated by everyone (piano music, something like electronic music, a little of dubstep or artcore...).There is one rap song in Blue Reflection Sun though (the original gacha game at least).
>>744500664Someone should make her English voice actress say that with Yuzu's English voice, I don't remember her name. Also, that Yuzu looks a little bigger, slightly flatter should be more accurate.
>>744500713Huh, slightly different version.
>>744500806>slightly different version.CENSOORED
>>744500819Yes.
>>744496237Yuzuki's panties are cute.
>>744500767>slightly flatter should be more accuratequartet vs original https://files.catbox.moe/tao4rw.png
>>744501145This kind of looks like AI art...oh well. In any case I like Yuzu. Good night.
>>744500427They shouldn't have removed the poster counter.
>>744475536Ultimate KEK
>>744501332>This kind of looks like AI art...oh wellit is i am shitting up your thread with ai slophttps://files.catbox.moe/c8xxps.png
>>744502989are those numbers better than using the { } system
>>744503152im prerry sure theyre interchangeable
>>744406745Anyone who bumps this shit thread is a tranny or a faggot. You will never be a woman. Even that shitty Halo remake is better.
>>744503152You can get same results with both, but 1.4::this is easier:: to manage {{{{{{than this}}}}}}. Making sure you have same amount of brackets on each side is annoying.
>>744406745The magical transformations got censored toohttps://x.com/i/status/2083619179215921455
>>744503656>twitter post screenshotting compressed videos
>>744500347Anger posting adrenaline. The one constantly complaining about censorship probably didn't even buy the original game.
>>744503447>>744503491>>744503525>>744503656>>744503743>744503837YWNBAW
>>744500347i remember playing second light cause this board kept shilling it on release
>>744504553why would i want to be a woman? women dont have dicks https://files.catbox.moe/j9wanx.png
>>744503743Alright faggot here's the video.They increased the brightness on their bodies. It is more noticeable on Yuzu's magical transformation https://files.catbox.moe/zh4joc.mp4
>>744503837>>744504620>>744505036>>744505042Bumpfags have tiny penises
>>744505042>instead of seeing nothing i see nothing!!1i dont care
>>744430798same, but especially with Ar Tonelico/Surge sequels
I find it odd how puritans automatically think the female body is some sort of sexual thing, it's so ironic, covering them up is literally saying they're a sex object
>>744505763They're very often misogynists who treat women as objects owned first by the father and then by the husband.Though of course a lot of them are women who are understandably pissed at constantly being seen as sex objects and nothing else.Perhaps we will have another sexual liberation movement at some point, these things come and go in waves.
>GRAPEU WAVEU!
>>744506486dont let tiktok see this attack..
>>744444769The majority of fanservice censorship is all self censorship.They fear the Xitter backslash, normies that casually browse social media and discover a game with visible pantyshots and cause a huge stur over it.It goes as far back as 2013 when people lost their minds over 1000 year old loli dragons/vampires in skimpy clothing. No one from ESRB or CERO had a problem with fanservice until puritans and normies raised pitchforks to publishers and companies.Koei Tecmo is probably the most cucked company after troons lost it over characters like Marie Rose and Honoka from Dead of Alive. They sanitize their games now outside of making hags with thighs and ass, which are tame as fuck.
>>744506905They don't fear backlash, they fear the platforms not approving or delisting their games. Platforms were already pretty puritan, but now platforms themselves are afraid of paypros cutting them out. Nobody cares about shitflinging on social media, that happens to all games regardless.
>>744497307Yeah, sure, hitch the existence of your cutelewd animu games to a movement so revolting and delusional that they speedran a political backlash in just three or four years despite every legacy institution backing them. Republicans and conservatives are trying so hard to censor anime and almost anything nerd-adjacent because they’ve been convinced that they’re linked to trannies; do you REALLY want to give them more ammo and justification on that front? The trans movement is destined for extinction, if you want anime games to die with them, be my guest.
>>744506993This. Visa and MasterCard have been secretly using financial based censorship for years. Some grumpy boomers can ruin you on a whim if they decide your anime girl looks too young. Then it's back into the wage cage for you.
>>744499108It only fix the character censorship, it doesn't fix the scenes that were changed to remove pantsu or hide the girls better or the dialogues that were changed to make the flirty option always the worst one.And since it's a straight nude mod, I assume the transparency effect is not restored either.
Some people are wired different but saying it aloud can get you in trouble...
>>744500168The second game was already censored to begin with.See >>744441830>>744503656>>744505042Thanks, KT keeps getting worse.
>>744509387Meant for >>744499186
Censorship is bad and I'm not glad its changedBut Yuzu and Lime's matching citrus camis are mega cute
Has anyone seen what the bonus for beating all 4 games actually is? They mentioned during the initial reveal stream that there would be a bonus. Meruru DX had a teaser for Lulua back then ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8p0p0tmMl9k) so I'm really curious, but I don't think anyone has gotten far enough
>>744510383I'm near the end of the first game and will finish it tomorrow but it'll still be another few days for me at least cause I'm 100%ing everything and doing all achievements as I go, Tie will take a long time
>>744510487Yeah same. Guess I should try and keep the surprise intact for myself just in case it's actually something exciting
>>744499186
>>744510154why would you wear lingerie to school? this censorship is retarded
>>744467005I can't tell if their statement is real or if it's a revisionist take. There were rumors that Sun gacha was going to have a female MC (I think there was even a picture of her) but one retarded platform called DMM Games forced them to turn her into a male. That's when Kishida began saying that BR was supposed to be harem since the beginning. Apparently, he's willing to backstab the game's loyal small fanbase just because a gacha site changed his mind
>>744511295>Apparently, he's willing to backstab the game's loyal small fanbase just because a gacha site changed his mindI wouldn't put the blame on him, he's clearly distraught about the whole censorship thing but he's the face of the serie and has to make all the "big" announcements.And sadly, he will not do anything about it because of japanese corporate loyalty.Same shit for Tsuchiya btw, I'm kind of glad Ar Tonelico is in IP hell because I know KT would have censored it all the same.
>>7444259714-2-A
>>744445214>nigger goyden
>>744510562There is no surprise
>>744467005>They said they had intended to have a male protagonist from the beginning but couldn't due to "technical issues."Somehow, Kishida didn't realize that the male-protag-less aspect was what made Blue Reflection stand out even if it has little fanbase. Thanks to that gacha, it's just another generic self-insert garbage #302910. It's like he's blaming the fans who are into yuri for not making it profitable and he thought going for a wider audience would do it. Not only it wasn't worth it but now he has to contend with censored trash as well.Just look at Love Live for example. It was originally going to be a crappy Idolmaster clone but dropped the producer/male self-insert before it got its first anime. Now it is one of the bigger JP franchises showing that a series full of girls doesn't need a male protag/love interest to succeed. It paved way for other titles such as Bang Dream that has beaten it in its own game.And if you want an example of "technical issues" being a blessing in disguise, just look at freaking Metal Gear. It was going to be a typical shooter game from the start but Kojima turned it into a stealth game due to MSX2's limitations. Even Konami didn't believe that it would be a success. It would go on to be the game that kicked off a new revolultion for future video games.
>>744513464>And if you want an example of "technical issues" being a blessing in disguise, just look at freaking Metal GearI looked and found only shitty games
>>744513464LL peaked with Muse.
>>744513464>Just look at Love Live for example.>dropped the producer/male self-insert before it got its first anime>a series full of girls doesn't need a male protag/love interestTo be fair, they didn't get rid of the concept completely
>>7444259711,3,F
>>744406745Should I get this or the original games when they go on sale?
>>744515013I seriously doubt they'll put the originals on sale ever again, just get this
>>744408539Sorry but blue reflection is pretty mediocre without fan service. People are disappointed because they know this is the end of the series.
>>744515013Do you care about censorship?>YesBuy the original of the first game then pirate the second game because the original was already censored.>NoBuy this.The originals will never go on sale again btw
>>744515409>>744515426So you're telling me I need to spend $255 for the original games with all the content?
>>744515683If you don't want to pirate, yeah.Blame KT for being greedy cunts.
>>744515683Surely some autist will find a way to mod in all the removed content and uncensored models
>>744515823See >>744509170
A true game for real gamers
has anyone tried if the gust tools modding works for quartet?
>>744516478Seems like it
>>744510154At least there's that.
>>744514675Agreed. Fucking hate what they've done with the franchise beyond the movie.
>>744510154They literally turned schoolgirls into prostitutes
>>744519804I wouldn't say that but it's either the new outfit or the underwear they wear in the original version for PS4, PC and PS Vita. Lime's panties have frills and it looks like a skirt, she's the only one who wears panties like that.
>>744510662Have you seen the original game? Some of them wear sexy underwear.
wish someone mods the game to replace the male mc with a sin sack
>>744521757Mental illness.
>>744521757I don't get it.
>>744406745>same straight black hair in a rowWho does this appeal to?
>>744523068It's Mel Kishida's art style. I love his art but it's true that it can have a case of "same-face syndrome". He also likes busty girls with short hair.
>>744522905touhou version of the faceless hentai man
>>744523068>who does this appeal to?Me.
>>744505042Damn
>>744523325I see...
>>744413014>>744417608>>744418537>>744418643>>744425971>>744431240>>744445214>>744445485>>744496395Hello my friend
>>744503656Dude that's fucking bullshit!
>>744523227I sometimes feel like Kishida's Sora no Woto designs were some kind of a fever dream, they stand out from a lot of his other works.
>>744513464Man I fucking love Love Live. They need to make an action JRPG that loosely follows the story of the anime, except throughout the story there's a villain who is trying to kill them and they have to defeat it. >>744514675>>744519747Whaaat. Nijigasaki and Superstar are my favorites. Why so negative?
>>744523897They kind of look like "if Arland characters appeared in a modern military setting", they look great.
>>744523897forgot this exist gotta check the vn
>>744406745This is fucking bullshit!
>>744524126>NijigasakiDecent but still vastly inferior to Muse.>Superstar S1 was pretty good and had the potential to reach Muse.S2 was a disaster, literally every character from S1 became a shell of themselves, all because they had to introduce 4 other members.
400+ posts later, yeah, this may be another Blue Reflection thread that reaches the bump limit. But the question "are Sanae, Chihiro and Rin bustier than Hinako?" is never going to get a good answer probably.
>>744524362>all because they had to introduce 4 other members.Yeah nijigasaki fell into the same trap. More members does not necessarily mean better. >tfw no JP so can't understand Hasu no Sora or IkizuliveWell, all the music is good, so that's something I can understand.
These games are literal shovelware without the fanservice, it's borderline arrogant they'd go back to censor their game like that as if it's even worthwhile anymore by that point. God forbid a heterosexual male likes looking at pretty women
>>744524957>womenThey're high schoolers.
>>744525015there is literally nothing underdeveloped about how they look, japan may have a weird youth cult be he have the exact opposite
>>744524957Blue Reflection: Second Light has always had less fanservice than the first one and yet it's commonly considered better than the first game (some people prefer the first Blue Reflection though). You haven't played the games or don't have experience with genuinely bad or mediocre games if you think that they are "literal shovelware without the fanservice".
>>744525078Yuzu, Lime, Kei, Ako, Fumio, Alesia Yu and especially Kirara and Yuki would be upset because of what you said...nothing underdeveloped about them...
I love blue reflection so much its unreal
Even if it's a quick travel back to the school to heal, having all the Sun characters later in the game make it a lot easier to keep going in a dungeon with like 4 full team replacements available that stay leveled up with the rest of the cast.
>>744525078In western culture, anyone who looks younger than the age of 40 is taboo.
>>744525410"I love Lime SO much it's unreal" is another one. Yeah, the different bikinis are a nice touch.
>>744525015Yeah.
>>744525015College students in the localized script
>>744526760In Blue Reflection: Second Light, in the original game not part of the collection they say "high schoolers".
>>744524325The VN is decent fun and expands a tiny bit on the lore, although largely detached from the anime story. Kind of an episode 13 that is back to being full-on SoL.I actually learned Japanese in order to translate it (out of sheer love for Sora no Woto in general), but by the time I was confident enough to pitch in the guys had already finished the whole thing. Ended up translating a PSP spin-off of a different anime...
Is my friend Ken here?
>>744527198Who? The guy with the Kimono?
Technically a college can be an alternative to the final 2-3 grades of school, it's not always part of the higher education. In my country of origin that's the only type of college, but I think those exist in Europe and USA too, either as a vocational school or focused on preparation for university exams. Probably not the reason why they translated high school as college, but it doesn't necessarily mean the girls are meant to be older in EN.
>>744524326The changes I assume.
Are dlcs included? If not, were just clothes or some special chapter like Atelier games?
>>744527779Only a few outfits that were pre-order DLC. Blue Reflection in Blue Reflection Quartet also lets you put the characters in the new outfits that they used to hide their underwear apparently.
The girls are incredibly thirsty for mc-kun.
>>744516682is there any place to follow up on this or contribute?
>>744526845no they said college students there too and people complained about it
>>744527981They're naked, they're done working on it.
>>744528010I've played the first Blue Reflection on PS4 several times, I know that's not the case, the school is called "Hoshinomiya Girls' High School", they explicitly say "high schoolers" at least once and Ako says that they were in middle school last year, which would be consistent with the fact that the game supposedly confirms that Hinako is 15 in the first game.
>>744528206https://steamcommunity.com/app/1423600/discussions/0/3158706376172715778/?ctp=5#c3158707011218474943
>>744527981It's apparently an existing mod that was made to work with BRQ-BR1. It's unknown whether anybody is working on a decensor, or rather restoration mod.Though if someone just makes a mod that de-nerfs the flirting dialogue options, that might just be enough for me.
>>744527857I see. I could swear the first game had some Atelier map?
>>744528465There was a DOA Zack Island spot repurposed as a beach but they did have Rorona outfits.
>>744528705and actually it probably got cut because they would actually comment on how they're in skimpy outfits
>>744528809
>>744528935
>>744528976
>>744525529Actually, the west used to be the same as Japan.It went downhill because of feminists.
>>744529117goddamn child protection act of 1984
Honestly what we need is not a restoration mod for BRQ but rather a mod for BR1 with updated textures. That's the biggest upgrade, because the original had textures meant for 720p for some inexplicable reason (while PS4 had proper 1080p-ready textures). Running the game in 4K was already possible through the ini config.
Treat the characters as pure fiction, in which case the creative choices about attire, exposure, or situational context remain the province of the authors and the audience that chooses to engage with; ORTreat them as persons with agency, in which case the original depiction should be left intact as an expression of that agency, and any alteration would require justification stronger than discomfort or ideological preference.
>>744529375Every Koei Tecmo title was PS4 Pro compatible from the moment it came out. Not that anyone actually looks at the small logos on the back of the box.
>>744529579So it actually renders in 4K? Maybe I should just get the disc, although getting the Japanese one is a bit pricey with the delivery costs.
>>744529517I'm not wrong, am I? We're all fucking adults here and not breaking the law. What is the god damn problem if not some cunt telling us the framework of their argument relies on fictional things being literally real.
>>744529758As far as I know it works. I had a launch PS4 I kept going until the PS5 came out so I was just curious what it looked like since that operates as a Pro
>>744528352That's related to the sequel, not the first game...
>>744527717Interesting post but the fact that the dialogue in Second Light says "college students" instead of high school students is an attempt to censor that part of the script or dialogue, especially considering that in the memories of some characters there are middle school students and high school students. Blue Reflection: Second Light takes place one year after the first game at most and Hinako's unidform is the same, so, they are high school students regardless of what the text says in at least one scene.
>>744528465Blue Reflection: Second Light has an extra area available as DLC, it should be an Atelier Ryza 2 dungeon (or Heartscape in this instance maybe).
>>744531115Yep. I remember Sophie 2 also have a Blue Reflection world.
>>744524584>are Sanae, Chihiro and Rin bustier than Hinako?At least someone still has the guts to ask the big questions.>>744524957I'm absolutely not defending censorship or the general demonization of male sexuality, but the fanservice genuinely isn't all that large a part of the appeal of the Blue Reflection games.>>744525270Out of curiosity, how did they handle talent points with them? The original cast got them from date events, but the imported Sun characters apparently don't have those. Do they just start with their full complement of skills, or get talent points as the story progresses, or what?
>>744531115Is it included in quartet?
>>744531532No...
>>744531532Quartet removed all BR2 DLC.
>>744531532Nope.Quartet is pretty much just the base games for both.
>>744410862Sun is the peak of the franchise though
>>744531495Who knows, I know that Alesia Yu appears in Second Light as part of the collection but if she doesn't have date events and in fact doesn't exist in the context of the story like other new characters then maybe she just levels up like other characters and not much else. Yuzu and Lime are playable characters in the first gane but in the sequel they are very important characters that, at the same time, aren't playable and don't have dates...Indeed, they are the only two characters with 3D models that don't appear in the photo mode and with outfits that can't be changed, not even that one piece swimsuit that most characters can wear.
>>744531495The big questions lol...yeah, it's not something important in the grand scheme of things but only Shihori and Yuri are confirmed to have bigger breasts than Hinako, Sanae, Rin and Chihiro are busty too however, so, does one of them have a bigger chest than Hinako?Even looking at their 3D models we may never know for sure.
>>744527886Ayame gives the impression of a feminine girl/woman, I guess she means "if there's a girl you like, ask me for advice, I can tell you what a girl might like or how to deal with a girl".
>>744532918Ayami, my mistake.
>>744532659Oh, nice! I love sweets too.
>>744436481The giga jew from EA btw
>>744531251mmm really i really should play atelier sophie more
>>744503656This is crazy
>>744534074Not bad.
>>744407527>Clothing no longer becomes wet and semitransparent in rainThis is a crime against humanity
>>744534642Everything is better with a smiling Yuzu.
I only played the first game way back when it released on ps4 but the only thing I liked was Yuzu and Lime. I wanted them to be paired with each other but I remember them being obsessed with the main chick. Whatever happened to them in the second one?
>>744535139I like her smile.>>744535832They are important characters but aren't playable as mentioned above.
>>744536227Yeah, that was one of the reasons I lost all interest in the series, along with that silly gacha. Were they in the gacha as well?
>>744536629Yuzu and Lime are basically the face of the franchise, they are the only characters who physicslly appear in everything and are always relevant in the story, other characters only appear in the games (Hinako and Ao), appear only in the first game (Sanae and Kei for example), appear only in Ray (Amiru and Momo for example) etc but the Citrus Sisters, they appear in everything with the same design or school uniform and it's not just a cameo or someone mentioning them by name. So, they appear in Blue Reflection Sun too.
>>744536869I mean to say "physicslly appear" of course. Yuzu and Lime are the most recurrent Blue Reflection characters.
i cant believe its already august
>>744536869Did they also have events with protagonist-kun then?
>>744536934The same typo again, haha. Physically.
>>744536979At least Lime has a direct conversation with the male main character in the original version of Blue Reflection Sun, I don't know about Sun as part of the collection yet (I'll play it later this month). Supposedly at least one of them makes fun of the whole thing about having a male main character in Sun by saying something like "the leader of the squad didn't have to be a boy, right? It could have been a girl" but I never wanted to watch the videos uploaded by Eclectic Translations (I don't know if that's the correct username) or anything, so that part of "they mock/make fun of the male main character" is a rumor or something that isn't confirmed.
>>744537392All I ever wanted was yuri between cute/young flatties but Gust seems intent on making sure they never accidentally do this again. YuzuLime twincest would've been gold, it's a shame. I gave the series a fair chance by supporting the initial PS4 release back then but it's just not for me, as I initially thought.
>>744537914Yuri between Yuzu and Lime would have been spicy because they are sisters, yeah. And both characters have small breasts too.
>>744529579"Was" is a key word here. Second Light is not PS4 Pro enhances unlike the first game.
>>744537914Gust's relationship with yuri is in general kinda incidental. They've made very few games that appear to be intentionally yuri, but since they usually make games with all-girl or nearly all-girl cast, yuri just kinda blossoms by accident but is never really acknowledged beyond friendship, adoration, or fanservice for the sake of fanservice scenes.
Its definitely normies ruining these games. I'm on a few anime/gaming Facebook groups and the amount of people who will call you a pedo if you try to defend censorship like this is insane. Thing is, unless you're anonymous like this website, you can't even defend it because having a digital footprint of wanting teenage girls to show their underpants isn't a good look for you.
