According to Jez Corden>“Microsoft has some plans with regards to how they show up on PC shall I say and I don't know what that pertains to with regards to steam. >But the plans that I know about, and I've got to be careful here, plans suggest, it gives them a window to potentially pull out of Steam. >So I would not be shocked if eventually we do see a universe where Microsoft, quits steam. But, I mean, we'll have to wait and see. I think it could go either way right now. I'm trying, I'm doing my research.”Xbox games released on Steam this year in order>Towerborne peaked at 1,346 players>Kiln peaked at 193 players>Forza Horizon 6 peaked at 302,645 players>Age of Empires Mobile: PC Edition peaked at 878 players>Halo: Campaign Evolved peaked at 25,376 players
>>744431494>If we pull our games off Steam, people will HAVE to use our launcher What is it about being a CEO that demands you be the most out of touch retarded person in the company?
>>744431494They'll be back, they always come crawling back.
>>744431494What games?
>>744431494this will kill them overnight
>>744431494they should have done this with the new gears of war, the only good xbox game coming out this year
>>744431494They'll double down on adult day care center while maxing out on pajeets. Fuck I can't wait for AI powered GFWL 3.0
>>744431494>maybe >potentially>i dont actually know>it is possibleWow, thanks for that concrete evidence.
>According to Jez Cordenlollmao even
>>744431494They would never do this, imagine Fallout or TES6 not being on Steam. That would be a don mattrick tier of stupid
>annoying brit bong larping as an xbox insider who is wrong about everything>annoying kiwi who knows nothing larping as a nintendo insider who is wrong about everythingwho keeps listening to these people
>>744431557It's insane how bad Microsoft's launcher is too.I used the Xbox app for a while when Gamepass was dirt cheap through the gold conversion in the early days, and the experience was so bad and bugy that when the subscription ended I had no motivation to renew.Also because of it, Windows keeps occasionally making an XboxGames and .GamingRoot files on the root directory of any drive I used the app with. I still haven't figured out how to make Windows stop doing that.
>>744431730Can someone make a list of things he was wrong about ? I'll start.Xbox putting games on playstation.The statue in the desert for TGA
>>744431494Oh fuck, that means I won't be able to play.......
>>744431494>Jez CordenB I N N E DINNED
>>744431616It's on the OP and the reason you think it doesn't have games is because it's on steam
>>744431494>Xbox games released on Steam this year in order>>Towerborne peaked at 1,346 players>>Kiln peaked at 193 players>>Forza Horizon 6 peaked at 302,645 players>>Age of Empires Mobile: PC Edition peaked at 878 players>>Halo: Campaign Evolved peaked at 25,376 playersThey want to remove the games from Steam so people don't see the pitiful numbers they have.
>>744431494>TowerborneWhat a fucking mistake of a game. Should've made it look more like Banner Saga.
>don't even have the balls to pull out of PlayStation>gonna leave steamjez used to be believable
>>744431636Yeah sure, because their games being multiplat on Steam was bringing them big bucks lmao
>>744431494jeets are fucking retarded
>>744431494freeshrugs.jpgThey need steam a hell of a lot more than steam needs them.
>>744432818In theory but thing is; people can go for Steam even without Xbox so that idea of integration or releasing their, once flaship IPs in theremakes no sense. If their brand can't recover its reputation before adding Steam equation they'll only will end up with humilliation rituals at every turn.
>>744431850I used Microsoft's launcher once, and that was for Crackdown 3. Needless to say, I haven't touched it since.
>>744431557you get paid no matter what
>>744431494what games tho xbox hasn't made anything worth playing in years
>>744432902They could do a partnership and release game pass on steam deck/machine, but that is impossible because steam is is Linux and Microsoft isn't going to touch that
>>744431494>already telling antitrust regulators to go fuck themselves after you sweettalked them into allowing the Bethesda purchaseIf only there was history of microshit doing stuff like this...
>>744433230>They could do a partnership and release game pass on steam deck/machineAgain; not going to work. You need the audience wanting something you have/offer and Xbox has only lost that capacity since Xbox One's reveal. In hindsight it's surprising One sold those numbers for sucha trainwreck
>>744431616CoDFalloutElder ScrollsWho knows.
>>744431494Good luck with that Microjeets
>>744431494lmao anything to hide how hard their games are flopping so they can more easily lie to their kike nigger investors through technicalities while getting kikemaxxed kikefunds from larry epstein kinkberg
>>744431616No, but really, what games?Jokes aside the gambit here is likely making ES6 or Fallout 5/whatever the fuck they call it console exclusive for at least a window if not indefinitely because they think they can copy GTA and move console units. I think this is bigger than just the launcher. I also do not give a single shit because their IPs suck ass as games to play.
>i don't know what that pertains to> we'll have to wait and seewhy do so many fucking retards listen to """""""""""""""""insiders"""""""""""""""""
>>744433896They wouldn’t dare risk make either of those two games console exclusive, but it would be absolutely hilarious if they tried. Unironically that would probably kill the games. If they’re dumb enough to actually try and force a launcher I won’t even bother, it’s not like TES or Fallout are expected to be any good
>>744432480when your sales are that low already every little bit helps
>>744431494yea because this worked for ubishart and egay
>>744434128Not when it's minimal, which is Xbox games as multiplat. Literally only a couple of them had any luck
>>744431557Genuine leadership qualities aren't valued in climbing the corporate ladder, at least not all the way up. Nine times out of ten, you have some deluded sociopath at the top that was driven enough to go all the way and step on as many people as it takes along the way.
>>744431557if you have ever worked a minwage job and thought "wow my boss is braindead", then just know those are the people who usually float to the top after a while. being retarded is actually a good thing in america.
>>744431557When you fill the entire country full of 90 IQ narcististic jeets, they eventually all start sucking their own dicks and the company becomes of ouroboros of retarded decision making
>>744434290>being retarded is actually a good thing in americaRetarded AND driven. You can't just sit at home with that shit, you have to act like you're a detriment to society and a potential boon to profits.
Didnt companies already do this song and dance before? And came crawling back?What makes them think it will be different this time?
>>744434862gabe is going to be destroyed by the eu sooner or later. they are just salivating at the chance to kill steam
>>744434907Considering the EU fucking hates Xitter for not being moderated enough I imagine they despise steam for letting its forums be filled with so many chuds.
>>744434907What does the destruction of Steam even look like? Break Valve into what, 3 Valves with 20 employees each? What do they actually want?
>>744431557Because when everything fails and they "part ways" they'll get another executive job in another big company and do the same thing.
>>744431557TES6 on Battlenet would still sell. TES6 in general would still sell, really. People bitch and moan about third party launchers on PC but they still put up with Rockstar's to play GTA. And random third party gacha launchers. And the Riot launcher. I sadly think we're going to see the walls crashing down again because I can see publishers being paid to keep their games off Steam and put on the Windows Store or Bnet(like what happened with GFWL).
>>744431557the business model for every company in the entire world right now is to sell your data. less risky than making a product
I have MCC on Steam except for Halo 4, which I played through gamepass for $1. Yes, I bought the Bungie games individually as they released instead of just buying the entire collection.
>don't worry about Sony going all digital guys, they totally won't delete your digital games>other competitor company is now trying to get your games you bought on another platform deletedsurely this breaks consumer protection laws, it would be like BMW building BMW only roads.
>>744431494>Age of Empires Mobile: PC Edition
This is the right call if they want to have PC/Xbox as the same ecosystem where all the games carry over. Steam on Xbox would be a disaster too for Microsoft's profits so it makes sense for them to do this.>>744435189Maybe it will be like Minecraft where the loophole is that they let your transfer your game licenses over so you don't "lose" them.
>>744435189>other competitor company is now trying to get your games you bought on another platform deleted"Pulling games from Steam" means they pull them from sale. They can't do anything about the games already in your library.
>>744435450They can revoke your licenses. They have the power to do this, but it's never used, because the backlash would kill them.
>>744431494Fake or gay Microsoft is so stupid they might just do it.
>>744434243The damning nail in the coffin lid of capitalism is that sociopathy and narcissistic behavior is rewarded. By social creature quirks sociopaths and narcissists love other sociopaths and narcissists (omg he's just like me!). It's a secondary feature built on top of the usual expected nepotism and in group bias. Past a point in a large management structures retarded delusional narcissists are the rule not the exception. It's not even about the performance of their traits, it's the human social element of their "tribe" (not dogwhistle tribe, simply as stated) extending them favors. Humans like people that are exactly like themselves. It's the mechanism behind social cohesion which formed tribes for survival purposes. Nature pulled the levers to incentivize grouping likeminded individusls. Applied to capitalism it's a system designed around empowering individuals that have a shared interest in having no concern for or plan in place for long term sustainability and profitability.
>>744431494I'll just emulate.
>>744432273>>>Forza Horizon 6 peaked at 302,645 playersI'm surprised this many people bought Horizon 6 considering that it's included in the gamepass.
>>744431494I wouldn't be surprised if they pulled something like this because xbox has gotten desperate, but it'd probably just kill the faster, same as how making games exclusive to xbox is going to kill them fasterthose kinds of strats only work when you're in first place, not 3rd place, or even 4th or 5th place if you could steam and roblox as competitors to xbox
>>744431494obligatory oh no anyway post
please pull-out from steampleaseit would be so fucking funnypleaseyou irrelevant fucking shitstains should die alone, on your own platform, real pc gamers dont need or want your shitdie in irrelevancy, microshit
>>744431494Steam chart threads did this.I hope you chuds are happy.
>>744436494The only reason the show went on so long was the absolutely absurd technological advancements made in the 20th century. The common man attrubuted the knockoff effects of these genius breakthroughs made by a meager handful of individuals to the currently prevailing ruling paradigm. We're witnessing the rate of technological progress getting eclipsed by the decay of the economic paradigm. It's not even that technological progress is necessarily slowing it is simply that its output is not great enough to outstrip the rate of decay produced by the economic paradigm. The rate of resource misallocation outstrips the ability of technological advancement to supply increased/improved resources.
>>744435606It is used whenever Valve catches certain keys that have been sold through gray market sites - that is, Valve themselves revoke the game from your library.An outside publisher is never going to go out of their way to have games from peoples' Steam library because that would earn the company nothing but pointlessly bad PR. If any company was actually going to attempt something like that it would have been Epic when they were still at the height of their "We're going to overtake Steam!" phase.
you dont want this company anywhere near steam
>>744436792We are.
>>744431494Are they going to retroactively fuck all existing customers like how Epic bought Fall Guys then added Epic launcher requirement to it afterward
>>744437863THE RETVRN
That's because of the steam charts, right?
>>744431494No problem just buy them physi.....
>>744431494>Microsoft has some plans with regards to how they show up on PC shall I say and I don't know what that pertains to with regards to steamWhat the fuck is this sentence and why is this being passed off as a reliable leak? Who even is Jez Corden?
>>744431494Oh no wait, don't do that, that would be.. actually go ahead.
>>744431494Trust zhe plan
>>744431494The problem isn't Steam and Forza proves that. The problem is shit games that nobody wants.
>>744431494Why are all console developers going full retard right now?
>>744438381going full retard is a worldwide trend
>>744431557because being good at your job is not what gets you promotedthey just shoot the shit with the highest person they can get until they get a little friendly favor from the head honchomy friends dad is a "fundraiser", which basically means he makes friends with famous people or someone close to them, to convince them to invest in shithe makes a killing too, just from charisma
>>744436886Makes sense, I had an ex that made a development platform for trade shows.She told me the amount of times they kill he golden goose for no benefit to themselves is surprising. Really burns you out dealing with people that crudely try to rip you off AND screw themselves in the process. It's maddening, sociopaths and narcissists how this weird power thing where if they just let go of control it would most likely work out but the effort it takes to convince themselves that all variables are within their grasp makes it all come undone
>>744431494>intentionally make all games unappealing to men>stop selling them on the most widely used platformWhat is this strategy called?
>>744431494...Didn't they already try this earlier?
>>744431494>Towerborne peaked at 1,346 players>Kiln peaked at 193 players>Forza Horizon 6 peaked at 302,645 players>Age of Empires Mobile: PC Edition peaked at 878 players>Halo: Campaign Evolved peaked at 25,376 playersLiterally what the fuck is any of this, who plays this trash?Fucking pull it and never publish shit like this on Steam again, jesus christ.
>>744431494>Jizz Condom umming and ahhing his way through that to keep Xbox niggers from committing suicideSad
>>744431784I would love to see the meltdown.
>>744431494>>744431557They weren't on steam originally. They had to be taught the lesson.The people who learned that lesson have now been thrown out and replaced by indians, who will now have to be taught the lesson again.
these companies are not making good enough games to be trying to pull all the power moves they're trying to pull. i've never seen such blatant desperation in an entire industry before. The more news gets released on the daily, the tighter my wallet closes
>>744431494>steam will NEVER get GTA6>steam will NEVER get TES6its over for steamies
>>744431494>RUMORlmao why do you retards keep falling for twitter engagement bait?
>>744434972They want Valve to be a publicly traded company so they can force their way in and kill it. The fact that Valve is a private company that isn't crippling itself in the name of LINEGOUP makes certain people shit blood.
>>744431557They aren't going to use their launcher. I bet they plan on putting all their games on their more popular launcher battlenet
>>744438910izzat
>>744435189Nothing will happen to your games that you paid for on Steam, they'll exist. See: The Last Remnant.
>>744432273To be fair, 300k players is pretty far from pitiful.The rest of the numbers are amusing though.>>744432383Call of Duty at least can't legally be pulled. They were permitted to acquire the company under the condition that CoD remains on playstation until 2033.If Microslop pulled it anyway, Sony's entitled to 10+ digits in damages from how valuable the franchise is, and MS would open themselves up to forced restructuring, since they lied to regulators, and this is not even close to the first time they've been grilled for anti-trust shit.
>>744431494He also said that blizzard has some big announcements for battlenet at this year's blizzard so I'm sure this has something to with that.
>>744431616Forza Horizon 6 and ugh... Halo Demake and Oblivion remake and Call of Booty 69? Lol they may as well go bankrupt as they only have stale as fuck Horizon now, they killed Motorsport for some reason. Id software is well as dead. What else do they have Blizzard? Lmao they can't produce anything good to save their life, new StarCraft shooter is outsourced crap most likely p2w or at very least filled with thousands of mtx.
>>744436494You're falling for the -ism trap. This is older than capital and shortsighted as it is, pure human nature. Call it what it is, greed. it's simply greed. It's built into humanity, all you can do is damage control around it.
>>744441916This year's blizzcon*
>>744441538>>744441732>>744432273It's day0 pirate
>>744434907UK and EU both have this funny problem in their heads, in that they think US companies need them. They don't. That's especially true of a private corp.if they were really pushed to it, Valve has the option of giving either or both the finger, and bailing out. Doing which they would have to make an explaination to their users why their steam accounts are no longer going to be accessible to them.EU has 30+ million active users on steam. 30+ million people who are going to be directed against the EU bureaucrats in anger, all at once.
>>744431494Oh yeah that plan worked so well for Games For Windows Live, or EA Origin, or Uplay.
>Download game>Try to install>Forces you to download GFWL>Try to sign in a few times due to shitty servers>Install GFWL>GFWL window closes and prompts you to sign in to install the game>Install Game>Try to play game>Requires you to sign in to GFWL>Sign inNow you are playing the game>Click multiplayer>Please sign in to GFWL onlineLooking forward to the future where MS runs its own DRM again.
>>744438551Being good at your job will never get you promoted period, with sociopaths at the helm or without. Why promote someone who is so good in this one specific role?
>>744442358gfwl was so fucked that when I finally managed to create a working account, the nick was something like "fuckthisgayassshit" because it was like a fifth try and all the previous accounts didnt work because I chose or microsoft chose for me a wrong country of residence or some other bullshit. after that I never bought another game with gfwl
>>744442041They won't do shit. Fucking frogs couldn't even reenact their own revolution properly half a year ago and they are the most socially active in EU space that do protests every other week.
>>744431557I dont understand you PC retards. All you literally have to do is click a different window to play your games. Whats the big deal? You niggas act like they are asking you to buy a new PC.
>>744431494Could just be the tip of the iceberg, other publishers may be leaving steam in droves.....
>>744442695I don't think so, this isn't a ubisoft/ea/make your own launcher thing and leave steamThis is a Xbox and Playstation are tired of Steam not letting them have their cake and eating it tooIn Sony's case you can sort of justify itIn Xbox's case it's just utterly retarded becase nobody is moving to the Xbox App for PC and/or GamepassAnd when Xbox said they wanted exclusives back in the fray, it made no sense for said exclusives to also be on Steam/PC and not just their Xbox app, but at the same time NONE of their exclusives are worth a damn, as much as you hate it you can't say the same for Sony exclusivesGame publishers who are just making games reap the benefits of Steam and aren't ever going to leave or make their own platform to fight SteamSquare Enix esepcially saw how much of a momentum killer the Epic exclusive killed their franchises and won't ever do that again
>>744442695That worked so well a decade ago.
>>744438980>Fucking pull it and never publish shit like thisfixt
Phil wanted Helix to be fully open so Steam, GOG and EGS would run on it. Asha wants it to run only the Xbox Store and the Xbox on PC store. Makes sense that Asha will stop releasing games on Steam and only release them on Xbox's own stores next gen. It won't help Xbox though, it'll just make them even more irrelevant.
>>744431494What do they have that's worth buying? I'm not playing any games with pronoun selection.
>you don't understand exclusivity is actually a good thing>not when it comes to pc storefronts thoughI remember this exact hypocrisy in every consolewar thread.
>>744431494one of my drives still has like 70 unrecoverable GB from a game I installed through their horrible windows store and now cannot delete (yeah there's a method but it's complicated so I'll probably just reformat at some point)Anyway it'd suck if people couldn't get Hi-fi Rush on steam any more
>>744431557It’s all about charisma. They make people feel special but don’t know shit about the product and never will because they have charisma.
>>744443347hi-fi rush is under krafton now
Microshit is on a timer anyway. The moment valve polishes their OS so that even anti cheat games will run with no issues there will be no reason to use a windows OS ever again. Games that are not on steam might as well not exist at this point
>>744443347gamepass/xbox app bricking harddrives will never not be funny
>>744431494Ahahaha. Yeah let them try.
>>744438910Face to foot style, how do you like it?
>>744431494This wouldn't even bother me if the Xbox app simply worked. But it's spectacularly broken, I'm constantly fighting with it to launch the games that I own.
>>744443659I legitimately gave the xbox app and their game mode a goIt was so fucking bad, everything was delayed and laggy, for as much as they said they designed it for a controller in mind, you still needed a mouse and keyboard because all the UI/UX was just shit
I don't really understand all the Studio closes and lay offs. Did the gaming market shrink? I feel like they just have to make a good game to turn a profit.
>>744443484Valve ain't touching general use OS market with ten foot pole, you will get purpose build hardware with steamos oficially supported just for it and you will be happy.
>>744443797Well they don't have to. After all SteamOS sits on top of arch so as long as they offer to boot into a regular desktop everything else "general purpose OS" comes from the community and package manager anyway.
>>744435126>I can see publishers being paid to keep their games off Steam and put on the Windows Store or Bnethow well did this work out for epic again? oh right, people forgot the EGS exists
>Only Xbox game PC players bothered with was Forza Horizon 6 the same game that had a virus exploit in itHonestly even if they pulled out steam it wouldn't be a huge loss
>>744443465did not know that, that's good, MS didn't deserve itDid they publish NG4? That was pretty good.
>>744431494not getting another launcher simple as
>>744431616Any first or second party game that's launched for day one gamepass
>>744443773Game Dev culture has stagnated.Games, even AAA, used to be made with smaller teams and smaller budgets and they were made quicker. This meant that success was more "easily" achieved. If your game cost $50 million and 3 years to make, then making $100 million is a great profit. The gaming scene was full of these sorts of projects especially around the 360/PS3 era. Games that took longer were VERY rare.In 2026, AAA games overwhelmingly take 5+ years, cost hundreds of millions of dollars and are from studios bloated with too many workers. The games are still mostly the same quality as before, usually a bit prettier, but now making $100 million on your game is not only a loss, it's a significant and studio ending loss because it cost atleast 3 times that amount to make it,.The main reason for this are games like Fortnite, GTAV and Genshin showing how a large budget and support can reap rewards hundreds of times over. Give a game a lot of funding and it could return billions. Why double your money when you could get 100s of times more? Yes this line of thinking is really fucking dumb and is missing a lot of key points but suits and CEOs just see the numbers and don't care.The other reason is that COVID profits gave huge confidence to those CEOs and suits that gaming would just be that profitable. In their mind it doesn't matter if they waste billions in bloated projects if one project turns around and becomes "their" GTA, or their Fortnite or their Genshin because the money would be worth it.They give studios too much money and no oversight, and when they fail to deliver on their absurdly high expectations they get shuttered, all so they can get their big cash cow.
PC cucks need to suffer.
>>744431557Because CEOs have exactly two purposes>line the shareholder's pockets (this was phil)>be the fall guy when the company is on the brink of collapse (this is asha)They're not looking to save microsoft's gaming division, they just want to squeeze the last few pennies out of it and have someone at the helm they can blame it on when there's nothing left
>>744442691Their 'different window' is always literal actual garbage dude>I don't get it, instead of going to the mechanic you know who's always done a good job on your car for a fair price, why don't you go to this new one? He's more expensive, doesn't know what the fuck he's doing, and will steal your hubcaps to sell to "locals" and pretend like you brought in your car like thatOr do you want me to do a food analogy??
>>744443894Linux will never be good windows replacement for average user as it refuses to become as simple stupid as it needs to attain that.
>>744443797They won't advertise it, that's it. You can already put Steam OS in a newer AMD machine much stronger than the steam machine, the .iso 3.8 is already out for release. Don't expect Nvidia any time soon though.
>>744444412>average userThey're not targeting the average user though, and by average I mean normalfags. They wouldn't know the first thing about how to put a live os on a usb even with AI walking them through it.
>>744443346You dont understand the difference between consoles and PCWith consoles, exclusively is good because it encourages people to buy their console OVER anotherOn PC, no one has to buy a new app. Steam and the xbox storefront are free. Therefore the only thing preventing people from downloading your app is whether or not it's shit and annoying. PC gamers are not the same as console gamers. Simple as.
>>744444638>console exclusivity requires you to buy into overpriced overdesigned piece of shit walled garden>storefront exclusivity requires you to download another launcher for freeSo why console exclusivity is a good thing again?
>>744443773>1. Dev bloat. Studios saw a huge spike in gaming during the scamdemic because people stayed in and played vidya. They thought this would last forever because theyre fucking stupid so they doubled all of their workforces at the behest of the higher ups in preparation for the FUTURE OF GAMING!>2. when the scamdemic tourists inevitability left, you end up with the same market as before but now studios need to sell more games and mtx to break even on costs. This will not happen if they make shit games>3. They make shit games because there are too many cooks in the kitchen. Having more people in your studio means you have more people you have to tardwrangle, a less cohesive vision, and basically just a ton of BLOAT. all of this is compounded by the lesdership being terrible and unable to efficiently lead such a large amount of people>4. When they see how badly a project is going, their first instinct is to toss more people on it to "help" (terrible idea). This is how you end up with absolute dogshit like skill and bones, which was a project touched by LITERALLY every single ubisoft dev. All 10000 of them across the world worked on this game. First quadruple AAAA game btw>5. Eventually, there is nothing left to do but close studios and/or cut 80% of teams. Maybe 50% of those devs are actually important and the rest are retarded idiots that were hired for non development related reasons, but those actual creators are still going to get shafted because they can't make good games when theyre handcuffed to faggots and troons and retarded idiotsIf they just made good games they could avoid this, but the problem is that they literally cant make good games because of how they've set up these studios. It's just not going to work
>>744432273It's obviously this. Halo remake numbers were the last straw
>>744444748Because you should want to encourage a consumer who will only buy one console to buy yours instead of the others. It's not just about GAME SALES It's about CONSOLE SALES you fucking idiotYou're not selling your APP on pc. Youre only selling your GAME. Therefore you are hamstringing your own SALES by locking it behind your shitty app nobody wants to install. How are you this dumb? This is basic logic.
>>744442358they still do and it still sucks ass
>>744444993No basic logic is i want to buy a game and play it with the least amount of steps involved.It is infinitely easier to bite the bullet and install some piece of shit egs and buy whatever is locked there than buy 500$+ shitbox to be allowed to buy the games that are locked on it.
>>744444412SteamOS already ships with the stable update focus and the only way to install shit on it out of the box is through something that's as simple to use as an app storeIt's literally safer and easier than windows, all it's lacking is software
>>744442691That "different window" is literally worse than epic. Its mind boggling how bad pajeetsoft shit is.
>>744431494>>Halo: Campaign Evolved peaked at 25,376 playerHoly shit, Halo is actually dead.
>>744445315Would you know this though if it wasn't on steam with an easily tracked player count?Or at least know it so quickly?
>image>microsoft has some plans>i don't know>the plans i know about>plans suggest>i would not be shocked>we'll have to wait and see>i think it could go either way>i'm trying>i'm doing my research
>>744431494Good riddance.
>>744431494MCC is the only game that matters from xbox, not a big loss
>>744434907lol Gaben can drag out any court thing because he has infinite money, it won't be happening anytime soon even if they got some sort of law loophole to abuse against him
>>744436792achievement/trophy tracking are still a thing, and layoffs will also give it away, steam charts is not the only method
Steam is dying for real now
>>744441772Why valve. Why not Sony or Microsoft
>>744438381>right now
>>744444249why?
>>744431494oh noanyways
This is the right move. To hell giving Steam a 30% cut when you own the damn operating system itself.
>>744431850
>>744431494Are they crying because their pozzed halo demaster got shit on? Nobody will miss them.
>>744445869Going by sales no one is buying their games anyways so what does it matter either way? Console owners are locked into whatever shit gets shat out for it but steam users actually have choice and willingly avoid that garbage
>>744445223You know you can also play another game and not install malware on your pc, right?
>>744431557At this point this isn't even a stupid hypothesis, its actively ignoring pattern recognition. Just about everyone who fucked off from Steam has come back hat in hand because nobody comes with them to use their dogshit. Even fucking UBISOFT learned this lesson years ago >Timmy tells them to make a deal and not release on Steam anymore. He'll give them big money to only release on EGS and they can even still keep their own uplay connect shit. >Ubi gives it a try, realizes even with Tim throwing money at them, they make negative sales and its not worth it >When contract is over, show up on Steam again and bring titles back, which sell far more than ever on EGS This has never, ever been a good idea. It has literally always failed. Xbox is just doing this because >HURRDURR CONSOLE WAR LETS DO WHAT SONY DOES LIKE THE OLD DAYS! LET ME FOLLOW THEM RIGHT OFF THE GODDAMN BRIDGE!
>>744445907>what does it matterThey'll keep more of the revenue, and Xbox is hemorrhaging money, so they need as much as they can get. Under Asha, Xbox consoles receive substantial updates twice a month now, so I trust that she'll devote resources to improving the Xbox app to better compete with Steam. The only way is up, after all.
>>744441732You know they will just pirate it. You CANNOT risk this with a single player game like fallout or Tes.
>>744446072+30% of 0 is still 0
>>744443484I'm already on nobara Linux handheld on my desktop. Mostly for ganescope. Insane how easy it was to install. Slap on USB and run installer. don't use windows anymore. CPU usage on Linux is vastly superior to windows
This is a wise move. Why release games in a platform that wants to siphon away your OS users and challenge your hegemony, too?
If they're going to make it a microsoft vs steam war then I know who I'm siding with
>>744446205Their games still sell in the tens of thousands, retard. Hundreds of thousands, in Horizon 6's case. An additional 30% of that revenue would be a huge boost for a loss leader like Xbox.
>>744446238That's a wise move only if you're making shit people wantMicrosoft could stop making consoles, dismantle their storefront and never update windows again and the world would be better for it
>>744436494That's human nature. The USSR leadership was a boys club read a book. Being a commie won't solve that.
>>744431494Not a chance this works out. People are stuck on Steam for purely ideological reasons.Like you could buy Halo Campaign Evolved on Xbox PC but nobody does. Instead they'd rather buy it on Steam and link their Microsoft Account to it.The only things Steam does there is acting as a download manager and a social media platform for your achievements and Now Playing status. You're still having to deal with a Microsoft Account and the added hurdle of linking that shit to Steam.
>>744446393The microsoft store is incredibly broken. It's worth buying on Steam simply for the guarantee that the game can be installed, played, and deleted without issues.
>>744442691Fucking steam takes 700mb of ram just idling there I don't need more wasted. >p-poorNobody said this before streamers and marketers broke your brains
>>744446393I remember using their store to play the first plague tale and outer worlds games, and something about it was so offputting that I never wanted to go backEven the epic store felt better
>>744446576If you're so worried about ram you wouldn't be on windows
>>744431494I saw this coming a mile away and no one believed me. Why make such an effort to take your platform's library across platforms when you're just going to sell them on Steam anyway and pocket chump change? Asha is not Phil. Xbox is going to walk back many things in the coming years, and simultaneous Steam releases are probably going to be one of them.
>>744431494A lot of games are still exclusive to the Windows Store and were never made available on Steam. Stuff like Crackdown 3, Forza Horizon 3, Phantom Dust remaster, Gears of War 4, Halo 5 Forge, and Halo Wars 2.Now the original Xbox games for backwards compatibility on PC are exclusive to the Windows Store (Blinx, Crimson Skies, Fusion Frenzy, Conker Live & Reloaded) so it wouldn't surprise me if more Xbox and Xbox 360 backwards compatible games are going to be exclusive to the Windows Store.
>>744446730Literally anyone with a brain could have told Phil that an Xbox (sorry XBOX) exclusive is not an exclusive if you give it to a rival store that takes the same 30% cut that Sony would takeEverything Asha has done is so basic and obvious that her whole plan could've come from a single chatgpt (no not copilot) prompt
>>744446393>the games I bought on steam ~15 years ago still work>I can even download and reinstall the delisted ones whenever I want>the games I bought 15 years ago with gfwl stopped working ages ago and I need to download cracked versions of themSure, purely ideological reasons. My ideology is not being scammed.
>>744431557I don't buy games if they require another launcher like ubisoft or ea, let alone just use the other launcher by myselfRelease it on steam or I won't buy it
>>744446323Correction: they sell tens of thousands on steamWhen they move they'll lose all the sales because nobody will download their crappy app.It doesn't matter if you get to keep 100% of 100 if you can have 70% of 10.000 instead
>>744446072yeah I dont give a shit about xboxs business though. why does it matter to ME?
>>744431557>What is it about being a CEO that demands you be the most out of touch retarded person in the company?The qualifiying factor for a CEO has nothing to do with knowledge, experience, or leadership. CEOs are chosen on how well they can develop into a genuine sociopath. All of them have the intellect of bratty, entitled children. Their craft is being given power over others and not being afraid to abuse it. They are able to easily fuck over thousands of employees without a second thought if that is what must happen to make the line go up. When it goes tits up due to unreasonable investor demands, the CEO gaslights everyone into thinking everything is fine until they have resigned and moved onto the next corpo. CEOs exist to make employees afraid and miserable, and investors happy, there is nothing else they do.
>microsoft will require the windowstore to install game>Aka something you can't just reinstall with a simple .exe if you deleted it like me
>>744446865>downloadThe Xbox app is preloaded with all Windows installations, so you don't have to download shit. Asha doesn't have to do very much to turn people's attention away from Steam. If she greenlights the right games, the Xbox app could grow to be the second biggest PC game launcher.
too bad that the xbox store is fucking garbage, embarrassing that software that comes preinstalled with your operating system barely functions
>>744445952>>When contract is over, show up on Steam again and bring titles back, which sell far more than ever on EGSFunny thing is Ubisoft recently praised Steam for AC4 Resynced's high sales. They didn't even bother mentioning EGS.
>>744447578I hate how they phrase this shit>resynced is the highest rated AC since the originalYeah because you just rereleased the original you faggots. A game that was and continues to be hugely popular.>benefits of the groups transformationI hate them I hate them you didn't do anything you retarded faggots
>>744447351>>744447435This is the first I've heard of the app being pre-installed despite having W11 for yearsThe store is so bland I don't even know what they want me to be looking at or buyingWhy is it that every competitor who whines about steam has a shitty store page like this?
>>744445223We're not talking about a completely consoleless/pcless person you dumb baka ass motherfuckerIf you have a PC, why the FUCK are you even talking about consoles? You're not going to buy one. This isn't about taking them off steam and "locking them" behind consoles. They would be taking them off to put them on their app. These are two completely separate marketplaces you dumbassYou literally cannot even follow the conversation at hand and don't even know what you're arguing for
>>744448173>the only discount in view is a single 10%do they even know how to run a store? I think this shit was figured out ages ago way before steam even
>>744448240That has to be an old screenshot. There's a big Bethesda sale going on rn.
>>744448173They obviously want you to buy pro bowling 2026, have you seen his glorious hair?
>>744448286It's from right now, I only discovered the app was pre-installed because anons told me in this thread
>remove everything from all storefronts other than Xbox>hire millions of Indians to produce buggy unappealing woke games>expect 1 billion people to abandon their existing digital libraries for thisSounds like a full proof plan
>>744443930Many games were succesful on Battlenet without being on Steam.
>>744443347Was it Phantasy Star? I tried to play it when it first came to the west through MS but as soon as I got it installed the game just kept crashing or throwing random errors at me. I tried to reninstall but I just ended up installing the game TWICE instead and when I got mad at it and just tried to get rid of it I couldn't since I wasn't allowed to just delete the files because I apparently didn't have the privilege to use my own fucking SSD. That entire experience made me swear off from ever using their storefront or any of their launchers ever again and as soon as Proton was a viable solution I jumped ship to Linux, I used every iteration of Windows from ME to 10 but with how shitty 10 was for a LOOOONG time and with how much worse 11 is, Microshaft essentially lost an otherwise lifelong user.
>>744431494>>744431557Jeets are so fucking dumb, like a cancer they kill the host over time.
>>744434907The EU doesn't give a shit. The only extent to which they care, is in regards to how they can fuck over the European peoples, hurt European industry, manufacturing and logistics. Steam doesn't really have a real effect there, so it would depend on immense bribes from anti-Steam companies, like Microsoft and the likes.
>>744448875No it was crackdown 3. Thinking back, I think I might actually have ANOTHER 40gb from some other game I've forgotten.It was a bad experience yeah. And that's not even 11. I run cachy on my laptop and will probably switch my gaming PC to linux if/when 10 truly dies.
>>744443347They've cleaned up that bullshit install method after a lot of complaints.
>>744438381Anon, it's consolesboth the devs and playerbase HAVE to be retarded, unironicallyit's a dumbed down PC for literal morons, what do you think?
>>744438910Povertymaxxing
>threatening to pull MCC from steam and killing its workshopdo you guys ever get tired of not being the target audience anymore? Thinking I might just dedicate my grandpa years to indie gaming only once the ps6/xbox sex 2 era starts
>>744446856>Release it on steam or I won't buy itGOG will be also acceptable when they'll finally release a native Linux client.
>>744450403>I like having my games out of date and/or missing featuresThere's no reason to buy from GOG if it's available on Steam.
>>744443773woke retards making shit games with shit propaganda, then laying off shit because no one buys their shit
It's due to player counts being visible. Every QUADRUPLE AAAA company wants to hide their player counts because they spend 500 million making their game and then get 10,000 concurrents.Then 50 popular youtubers make a video citing this fact, it's indisputable, and it means millions of people are calling their company an objective failure with facts to back it up.
>>744445883Is it pozzed? How?
>>744450450>There's no reason to buy from GOG if it's available on Steam.There some porn games that have missing content on Steam, and while it can be externally patched, GOG has them incorporated in their system.
>>744450401anon... are you unironically playing AAA games in 2026? I have ZERO interest in playing like 90% of the slop coming out since like 2022. I only play the good ones
>>744431557If we pull our games from steam nobody can see how badly our games are failing to make a pop culture impact
>pulling Fallout and TES games from SteamLmao
>>744431557Games for Windows Live is back baby!
I wonder who's leaving next
>>744431494dam they really are shutting the brand down lmao
>>744431494>plan>suggest>potentially
I thought PC users didn't like Xbox and their products. It's a shock that there's so much push back on the idea and talk about their future. I guess you guys really do care in some way, huh?
>>744452721>Rumor>Twitter postYea it's 4chan content farming time
>>744450812that's probably itthe yare not happy about the halo demake
>>744446854>My ideology is not being scammedYou would be exclusively buying on gog or pirating then, yet you aren't and choose to believe in unsinkable steam that will exist forever.
>>744453813It will exist long enough to make the convenience worth the money.
>>744431494they probably asked gaben how many yachts would it take to sell steam. he kept saying no way fag. now they're seething.
Great. Another launcher to log into every two years or lose the whole library.
i noooo now my steam store wont occasionally show me an xbox studios games and remind me of their incompetence and make me chuckle audible. a great loss, truly.
>Pull games from platform that accounts for 90% of sales>Sales crater rather than pick up>Games end up on Steam anywayA Familar pattern
>>744454969It doesn't even sound likely. They're taking preorders for E-Day on Steam.
>>744431494YEAH YEAH ALL OF YOU CAN FUCK OFF!!
>>744437706Why don't curvy women get to feel seen?
>>744431494Forza is Xbox?.. huh...I play Assetto Corsa either way.
>>744431494Maybe if Microjeet stopped outsourcing their game development to foreign 3rd worlders than westerners would actually play their games. But we all know the reason they outsource to indian "game studios" is so they can launder money back into their shareholders pockets.
I honestly think they just want to kill Xbox and are looking for a way to sunset it slowly.
>>744431494Windows store and general ecosystem is fucking terrible. They have poor world coverage, bad regional pricing, if product is available at all and schizo download servers. Steam understood from the get go how important it is to provide equally good service to all customers. All the other stores shit their pants each time you move your IP.
>>744431494All these companies are afraid of how the people can see the number of players on steam
>dillute your brand by calling everything an xbox>gamepass subscrobblers plummet>dillute your brand by giving sony halo>gun and ballers don't buy your game anyway
>>744460659>According to Circana's Player Engagement Tracker, on July 28th Halo: Campaign Evolved ranked 4th in US DAU on Xbox platforms (8% of total Xbox players on that date launched the game), while placing 14th on Steam (2% of actives) and 29th on PlayStation (1% of actives).lol. lmao even
>>744431494>rumor>potentially>would not be shockedkill yourself OP
>>744431557lol /v/ is so out of touch. normalfags dont care about steam. my gf and her friends don't even use it because everything they play is on gamepass and in her own words "fuck paying for video games".
>>744460324this is true. it's beyond pathetic how both snoys and microjeets are rushing console players into all digital age when they both equally suck at delivering good service. MS sucks dick at coverage and snoys at server quality. I think they'll lose A LOT more than 20% of physical only fags once normies start noticing slow speeds, regional locks and denial of service periods. none of this shit is present on steam.
>>744461326>My retarded anecdote is unversally true because reasons>Calling anyone else out of touch.Normally you're right about /v/ being out of touch, but that is the most retarded way you could show it. Steam is immensely popular even among gun and ball normalfags. More popular than Xbox even although not as popular than Sony although that might have changed ever since COVID and PS5s being expensive as fuck.
>>744432480>Yeah sure, because their games being multiplat on Steam was bringing them big bucks lmaoit actually is, halo is number 1 on steam, if they go exclusive on a platform with no players they will lose 100s of millions per video game they make and they are already in the red the best thing to do is go exclusive and PC thats what all consoles should do especially on xbox's position
>>744462958>Steam is immensely popularxbox isn't going after steam users they're going after low IQ normgroid cretin who don't even know what a steam is. if retards can pay $20 a month for gamepass in order to play the current FOTM friendslop they're just going to do that and wont download steam unless they have to.
>>744463397halo is number 1 on playstation for a little while*
>>744434972>What does the destruction of Steam even look like?- Existence of DRM in any form- Sales are less/discounts aren't 80% avg- Games on sale are low quality- Mass influx of low quality/shovelware software avaiable- Prices, even with sale, are above $30 for games- Licensing issues with software removal- Actively revoking licenses- Paywalled features and content from client and publishers- Additional lock from publishers' side as account mumbo jumbo- Moving possible costs to the consumer despite being able to absorb such costs with not much issue- Main leader and its philosophy are gone Which ones are yet to happen and which ones are already here is something you should evaluate.
>>744431494That would finish them off. Dumb jeets
>>744438381>>744438516This.
>>744431494>shall I say>I don't know what that pertains to with regards to steam>plans suggest>gives them a window to potentially pull out of steam>I would not be shocked>we'll have to wait and see>I think it could go either way right nowThis is a worthless thread
>>744463397>it actually is, halo is number 1 on steam>Not even 30k players at all timeIf you call that a success then I'd have to ask if PC vegans or Steamies play games at all or have anything to do? Because that sounds like Forza on PS5; its success was because the platform was fucking barren of gamesBTW; Halo 1 remake of the remake isn't even the most played through gamespass (which is accessible via PC) so no; exclusive or not, they're losing all those millions anyway and being exclusive made things worse
>>744464657>exclusive or not, they're losing all those millions anyway and being exclusive made things worse*not being exclusive made things worse
>>744431494Makes sense. If you own the entire platform why are you using a side store, that's retarded.>>744431557>our launcherTheir launcher is called Windows
>>744431494nothing of value would be lost, for us.
>>744441948Human nature isn't naturally evil, you've been psyopped into thinking that because it gives us an excuse for capitalism. The first sign of civilization is a healed femur, pro-social behavior and cooperation are the backbone of society, not being a fucking retard psychopath with no empathy. You're making the same mistake as researchers who looked at how wolves behaved in captivity and came to conclusions about their natural social structures.
>>744431494well i guess i wont be buying then
>>744434128Except when the move costs more in sales than it saves in fees.
>>744431494>XBOX TO POTENTIALLY PULL GAMES FROM STEAMxbox has no games
If the industry couldn't pull this off years ago when games were still good and the woke left hadn't yet launched their culture war you're sure as fuck not going to make it work now
>>744465531Its funny how AI would help the rise of communism but you guys seem to hate it.
>>744431494You can't stop people from selling physical games you shouldn't be allowed to remove games like this
>>744466679If the AI is controlled by giant corporations, you aren’t getting communism even if we assume AI will suddenly become generally useful.
>>744466824>If the AI is controlled by giant corporations, you aren’t getting communismAnon, I...
>>744466910Oh, what, are Anthropic and Open AI and Google going to be good people at the end of the day? They gonna open source their multi trillion dollar investments with no profit?
The only 'contemporary' Microsoft games I've got are AoE2DE and AoMEE.Pretty lean offerings from such a big publisher, no?
>>744465531Human nature is naturally self-interested, and interested in the small subsection of humanity you can personally care about. Universal empathy simply isn’t a thing, you want to get yours and you want the ~150 people you have the cognitive capacity to know and like to get theirs. The rest of the world can die as long as it doesn’t effect your anchor, and you’ll still be happy.
>>744431494I feel like this should bother me, but it doesn't. I mean Xbox has that Crossplay or whatever the fuck it's called where you buy a game from the Microsoft Store and it works on both Xbox and PC. So, if you have an Xbox, you'd be retarded to buy a PC game on Steam that is also available on Xbox since you can get both the PC and Xbox version for the price of one game. But, if you don't have an Xbox, I guess it matters? I have an Xbox, so, it's whatever to me.
>>744446087>Tes>single playerthat's old-generation boomer thinking, now try nu-generation multi-trillion dollar corpo thinking
>>744431494I already use the xbox store on my rog ally x since its comfier to launch games from there than on steam
>>744431494>Somehow GFWL returnedL M A FUCKING O LETS GOOOOOOOOOODO IT FAGGOTS
>Steamfags were bragging about years how all console games, even Nintendo, will come to Steam>Now the opposite is happening with Sony and Microsoft pulling outKarma is a bitch.
>>744431616Forza 6 Gears of WarHalo CETE6FO5FO NV Remake
Microsoft is on drugs, the path forward for them is clearly becoming a third party
>>744446854you're talking to people who might not even be 15 years old, and if they're over 15 years old they're probably too young to even know what gfwl even isnewfags have to learn their lessons the hard way
>>744431557The whole cancerous modern corporate culture is just neo-feudalism and modern nobility. CEO's worth is not in his skills, it's in the connections he has. That's why you hear so much of morons falling upwards and golden parachutes, it makes no sense until you understand this fact.
I have not played a single PS/Xbox exclusive game in more than 10 years so I'm not missing out on anything with this. Who cares?
>>744469367I'm sure jeets are using Fable right now to write a billion lines of code for some god awful DRM that will make their games impossible to hack or use anywhere else outside centralized XBOX digital store which they'll launch with project helix.
>>744431494>>744431557If a game wants me to make yet another account just to play it, it's not getting bought. Not making an R* acc, EA acc, ubi acc etc, I'm not making one. I'm done with companies demanding you make accounts they don't actually need that will just end up in breaches.So if it's not on steam it's not getting bought, and if it's on steam but demands an account/launcher on top of that just to play it, it's still not getting bought.
>>744470882Do you not have a Microsoft account already?
>>744469485
>It was a prank, bro!
Honestly, good. Fuck steam. Fuck Gabe. Siphoning 30% of every game sale to access a CDN download is a scummy business. Very jewish.
>>744469432The irony is that only Nintendo has anything even worth emulating on PC when that’s the most unlikely one to actually ever happen.
>>744434862Fucking apis just that, if steam doesn't bend the knee they have to remove windows support from steam quite simple and we know steam bended the knee when they removed support for old systems on either launcher and console (got a warning "you need to update to windows 10 22H" or sonething built when i tried to grab a mod for gmod).And is quite known even small devs went with microslop shit.
>So there's a thing that might, be I dont know if might happen, but Im pretty sure it could happen sources close to the cousin's twice removed, former roommate sayThe power of modern journalism.
>>744471485But what does Steam do that affects ME negatively? I understand you have a game that couldn't make the $100 deposit back, but how does that affect ME?
>>744435156same here lol
>>744443252And kill the brand, is what she was hired for.
>steam will be indian free in the futureI thought you guys said the industry is crashing? Its only looking bright
>>744445862He is a snoy lowcow.
>>744431494Good for them.
>>744472696So at the very least there's 2 of us.
>>744431494Steam players have autism and a fierce loyalty to valve. Nothing short of a massive game like TES 6 or a new Fallout would motivate people to use a different launcher. Like 97% of PC gamers don’t really care that much about Halo or Gears and if it isn’t available to them on steam they’ll shrug their shoulders and move on
>>744431638Lmao, imagine nuking the sales of one of your flagship franchises (and a game that actually looks pretty good). It would have been funny, but I know that I would be pissed.
>>744467034it's about to get even leaner since xbox is going to be CoD + halo + gears + fallout + TES for the foreseeable future
>>744455689The ironic fact that all 3 mauler designs are canon.
>>744466824ANON... companies follows keynes a huge frankfurt commie and why everything since the 80's is going to hell.The mises school of chicago which is why we got shit you use every day and consoom.
>>744434952Ain't no way you think the thousand year old Power Liches in EU Parliament know about the existence of Steam forums
>>744436618its not worth playing agmes on gamespass that actually give you long hours of playtime, you will end up spending more for itI learned that lesson with RdR2 and Persona 5, and some rpgs here and therebetter just buy the game, not like you will play several games, that's the bad thing about gamepass
>>744431494Steam/Valve takes a cut so not many competitors want that.
>>744445826private company and Steam is fighting back against ID Biometric verification,
>>744480195Well yeah but it's not like they have room to complain about that
>>744452867Halo 3 and Reach multiplayer are still fun to this day, Halo Wars is good, Gears has a sizable fanbase, that's about it though, dunno if the old RARE games are on steam
>>744431494That would be an extremely retarded move, which tells me that's exactly what they're going to do!
>>744480195No competitor wants that, but reality is different than ideals. Selling 30k copies without Steam is not worth it when you can sell 300k with Steam. There's a reason why Activision, Ubisoft, EA, and whoever the fuck had third-party launchers all folded within the past decade.
>>744465531>Human nature isn't naturally evil, you've been psyopped into thinking that because it gives us an excuse for capitalismThe drive to push your way to the top of any hierarchy is often fueled by a self-serving lust for power. You can see that across any number of political or economic institutions. >stalin>mao>hitler>the borgias>any dipshit who bought himself an officer's commission and ran his troops into a grinder >activists struggle sessioning their way to the top of a company because they dont like the founder and kicking them out>put your favorite figure-head king hereJockeying for position in the hierarchy is human nature. This behavior is present in all systems and all times.
>>744431557being CEO on a PUBLICLY TRADED company doesn't mean you are in charge, it means you are at the whim of stockholders, which 99% of the time don't play videogames so in their mind "people WILL HAVE TO USE OUR LAUNCHER" makes sense even if it really doesn't>but why doesn't he tell themyou cannot reason with people with money, they are inherently retarded>so how did they get richnepotism mostly
>>744434243i work for a small company and the ceo gives me psychopath vibeshe may talk normally to people but something about his expressions and eyes just comes off as uncanny
>>744482923Trust those instincts and always keep in mind you will be on the chopping block if its convenient for him
>>744481154>The drive to push your way to the top of any hierarchy is often fueled by a self-serving lust for power.Yes, because power lets you indulge in evilness without punishment, while to indulge in goodness you don't need power.
>>744431494It's either on Steam or I ain't paying for it
>>744433896Master Chief Collection is a big one
>>744471485You do know that developers and publishers get more out of steam than physical right?Significantly more, actually, 70-80% of revenue vs 50% and 20-30% of physical is resold, generating no revenue.2 physical sales are worth 1 digital From there steam gives you by far the most out of your digital games compared to limited shitware offered by consoles and Steam's competitors
>>744431494>halo bombs>it's not the game... it's le steam!and nothing was lost AT ALL
Seems like BS given Steam is the only marketing bulletpoint the next Xbox has.
Why does /v/ care when we all pirate our games? Surely we're not turdbrained low iq mentally deficient retards that give our hard-earned money to a fucking storefront service when we can just use torrents? Steam, Epic, Windows, it doesn't fucking matter, my storefront is qbittorret.
>>744488010>wewuz?
>>744488010>stealing is easy therefore everyone should do itsociety wrecking nigger mindset
>>744431616>MIcrosoft finally kills Bethesda by making sure they make no money out of ES VI instead of launching that thing with workshop support to simplify mod management and make one quadrillion buckslmao
>>744465531I'd rather have food with psychopaths in charge than no food with psychopaths in chargeThat's the difference between Capitalism and every other system
>>744431557Dodge v Ford Motor Co
>>744448875That happened to me too. Never using microjeets shitty storefront ever again. I was so excited try PSO2 and now I just don't care.
>>744439759And of course he's backing away from it like he always doesFuck Xbox
>>744464657i meant to write PS look at the other reply with *
>>744431494Good! Steam is shit and Gayben is a greedy 30% cut fatty!
>>744431494>it gives them a window to potentially pull out of Steam.>So I would not be shocked if eventually we do see a universe where Microsoft, quits steamWorked so well for Gears of War 4, didn't it?
>>744493270They never learn
>>744471663>only Nintendo has anything even worth emulating on PCwhen was their last good game?
>>744431557>If we pull our games off Steam, people will HAVE to use our launcher IT WILL WORK THIS TIME, FOR SURE!
>>744431494>jez cordenwishful thinking from this corpo slave
MS killed GFWL just to make something that is worse where its only value is to play gamepass shit.So in their dumbfuck hypothetical where they pull from steam1. Gunballs that play on console will continue to ignore it because the change will never affect them2. The small number of morons that used to give them $70 for their AA(A) trash via steam will now ignore the games outright at worst, wait for it to get added to gamepass down the line at best.There is no long term investment here as seen with EGS failing to create customers out of its users.
>>744431557to be fair it is a good business decision if you want people to use your platform for the exclusiveshopefully it starts forcing people to lay off the steam cultism a tad
>>744431494>pull out of steam>nobody buys them on gfwl2:electric boogaloo>has to discontinue gamepass after massive losses become impossible to maintainDo it. Please. Just kill Xbox already. It's sick and needs put down. Can't you see it's in pain? Why prolong the suffering?
>>744438381Our economic system is about to burst. There's no more growth. Trying to squeeze out more from what they've got is the last ditch attempt to make line go up, but there's nothing left.
>>744493994It will probably go as well as most attempts so far
>>744494265yeah because the steam cultism is too stronghopefully it ends up with PC gaming being fragmented and fading away like streaming is currently suffering
Xbox can make elder scrolls and fallout exclusive if they want I guess I doubt they will. They probably will start making halo, gears, etc exclusive again
>>744432480It's the only place on PC they were selling at all.>b-but muh gamepassDoesn't make any money.>b-but consoleXbox is on death's door. After this gen, it's over.
>>744494337Why do you think it will be different now?
>>744494337>hopefully it ends up with PC gaming being fragmentedIt didn't work the last time they tried it, when they had games people actually wanted to play.This ends with xbox dying, not steam.
>>744431494https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdB13lFexNk
>>744494337>>744493994You have to be a fucking idiot to think steamies will go to fucking microsoft when Valve fucks it up.Steam has reached peak cattlefarm for most dumbasses like Youtube so they will still use it no matter how much they fuck up.Contrarian alternative(EGS), hipster alternative(GOG), alternative of alternatives(Zoom) exist already and MS has even less fucking chance to grab a piece of the pc gaming pie than they ever had.
>>744431557only an ignorant retard has the amount of confidence necessary to become CEO: the zenith of the Dunnin-Kruger effect
>>744466679>AI>helping anyoneCome back when you can have a use case.
