What is it about Morrowind that makes it so good in spite of its flaws?I've been put off by Morrowind because I thought it would feel janky and old. And actually, it does. But at the same time it's quickly becoming my favorite over Skyrim and Oblivion, but I can't quite pinpoint why.There are the obvious flaws, like NPC simulation being relatively poor. For example, it's dumb af that I can sleep in at the Mage's Guild, then be awakened by a Dark Brotherhood assassin who tries to stab me to death whilst everyone in the building stands in place and doesn't react.But at the same time, I don't think Oblivion or Skyrim comes anywhere close to crafting a worldspace that feels anywhere close to as real, authentic, unapologetic, and LIVED-IN as Morrowind.So can we agree on Morrowind > Skyrim > Oblivion ?
>>744476249I literally just started playing it this week and already have 19+ hours in so both your statements are retarded and irrelevant.Did some Morrowunc dick down your mother or something, is that why you're so analpained?
>>744476249>Morrowind is garbagehow?>and uglyas compared to beautiful Oblivion and Skyrim? lmfao>Muh combatOblivion and Skyrim only saw marginal improvements to combat. The only real major difference being removal of RNG.
For me, it’s those small things like how you can stumble upon quest objectives or important NPCs without even knowing what they are.In most RPGs>there’s a great beast lurjing next to a town>it won’t spawn until you hear a tragic tale about how it killed peasant Drasha’s brother etc.In Morrowind, you just encounter and wonder that what’s that named amulet in its belly. Or you can go to a wrong place and get your innarda ripped out by enemies that are completely out of your league, and you won’t necessarily even know what the fuck they are (in case you end up in a 6th house base accidentally).And I know that it is a fucking small thing, but seeing things out of order is a thing that really helps me in breaking the ”this is just a theme park” feeling that most games have.
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>>744481629why did he do it?
What is the next one after poison song? Sutch or Markarth?
>>744483418Markarth, then Wealth Beyond Measure, then Sutch
>>744483391he didnt want to pay taxes
>>744483391We don't know yet
>>744483978why
Wealth beyond measure, Outlander.
>>744476178>I can't quite pinpoint whyIt's called SOVL
>>744483978What's missing for Sutch? I don't care about M*rrowind anymore, I want more Cyrodiil
>>744491480>What's missing for Sutch?DragonIf seriously, there was talk of releasing it in the first half of 2027 but I wouldn't get my hopes up. From what I can see, there's still a lot of work to be done.https://wiki.project-tamriel.com/wiki/Salt_and_Spice_Expansion#Needed_Quests
Peek at TR Poison Songhttps://youtu.be/fWCVcGqTgb0?si=EqIdx6Hczbq4eMTa
Finally found him
Hey /v/, /pol/ here, FF7 is the greatest game of all time and Dark Souls 2 is the greatest Souls game; also, fuck Googles, fuck Skypes, fuck transvestites (jannies).Also, for someone that loves Morrowind threads and loves falling asleep to playthroughs; what version of the game should i play for my first time? Each time i play Skyrim i spend 1 week download 1,000 mods and get them to all work together before actually playing. is that big project worth waiting for?
>>744494350Kill
>>744495061openmw is easier to set for beginners IMO, go for I heart vanilla expanded directors cut if you want TR https://modding-openmw.com/guides/auto/>worth waiting forYou can (and should) play it right now, The project is way too big for one playthrough and it's built in a way where you can start in any of the new regions
>>744490306idgi
Morrowind has the most interesting world, which is truly unique among fantasy settings Skyrim had the most bland world with only few fantasy props like giants and mammoths Morrowind has an entire economy that is also based on fantasy creatures like the kwama, stuff like scribs and the netchThe later games feel bland in comparison, though oblivion is still my favourite despite that, skyrim felt boring and the fake accents were off putting
>>744500962An Oblivion fan has no right to call any other TES game's setting bland
>>744501004Eat shit, or play skyrim same thing
It's main strengths are its unique setting, the main quest which conveys the player to most major areas and factions in the game while also being interesting in its own right, and the magic system.
Collected all the Poison Song books and decided to visit Darvonis and it's really needs this update. It's pretty silly that this is right next to Almalexia
>>744476178fucking botposting redditfag
>>744497242But Ocli's our friend...
Balmoral... Home. What house do you guys take over when playing vanilla Morrowind? There are several empty buildings whose owners never show up.
>>744502004There's some tiny shack on the Western coast somewhere, I forget where and whether it's modded or not, but that is where I go.
>>744502004>BalmoraHlaalo Manor>Ald'RuhnHanarai Assutlanipal's House>Sadrith MoraNevrila Areloth's House
>>744481629I look like this
>>744502004I just bum around Caius house until eventually graduating to the evil wizard's house in Mournhold
>>744503013why the fuck would you live in Mournhold?
>>744502959also bonus>Seyda Neenthe lighthouse>Caldera Ghorak Manor>for Morrowind MPHlormaren
>>744500962>Skyrim had the most bland world with only few fantasy props like giants and mammothsNot really. Viking fantasy is highly uncommon, ESPECIALLY when Skyrim released.Oblivion easily takes the crown for most bland world.
>>744476178Starfield > Oblivion > Skyrim > Morrowind
>>744501438I've probably been on 4chan longer than you nigger
>>744505085kek flip this around and you have the objectively correct tierlist
Poison Song when? The Morrowind fandom is dying.
>>744506274August, forget the specific day but just a few weeks basically.
>>744483978Given the slow pace of the SHotN (Skyrim) team (it's been 6 years since the last release, they have very few people working on it, from what I read at one point doing Markarth Side was literally a one-man project), it wouldn't surprise me if Wealth Beyond Measure releases first, followed up by Sutch.All these projects share most of their members, but their progress varies widly depending on each person's interest at the time, which is why we're even seeing more progress as of late on Rihad (Hammerfell) and Scars of the Shadow (High Rock) than Skyrim.
>>744506674I feel like Black Marsh, a project that's not even properly open yet, is getting more progress and enthusiasm than Skyrim is.
>>744500962>mammothsI felt like it was definitely a missed opportunity to not have Nords travelling skyrim by mammoth
I have so many mods in for TR that's I'm afraid of having to have them all updated as well
>>744506794black marsh needs to be some sort of high level area, kinda where every journey is a very hard expedition into unknown
>>744476178>What is it about Morrowind that makes it so good in spite of its flaws?SOUL
soon?
are they planning to redo early eastern parts of TR? aside from landscape they're pretty barren in quests and points of interest
>>744508035Next will be the Mephalan Vales, followed by Necrom. Telvanni lands won't be until the very very end
>>744476178Skyrim>oblivion>morrowind
>>744508269it'll be wealth beyond measure, silgrad tower (redoran 1) then either blacklight (redoran 2) or almalexia
>>744508957I'm referring to reworks. And Mephalan Vales is probably before Grey Marsh. (Blacklight is Redoran 3)Also I guess Armun Ashlands is getting a rework alongside WBM though it's a comparatively minor one
does TR team take into account lore that all most important redoran members are in ald-ruhn? I think redorans on mainland should be literally who governors
>>744476178I just saw this video and I think someone should try to remake this mod in either Skyrim or Fo4At least this being put to video will keep the thought alive for a while.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHU7iQ0h29U
>>744500962I played Oblivion and after like 10 Oblivion gates or whatever I dropped it. The definition of lackluster. I heard the DLC was good. I dropped Skyrim after two hours because you basically see everything there is to see in two hours cus everything is the same. Genuinely a terrible game that took the RPG elements of previous games and dumbed it down even further than Oblivion into an action RPG/hack and slash.
>>744476178I think it's mainly the atmosphere and the setting.Morrowind feels like on of the very few games where you actually get to live in a civilization that's both alien but also understandable and explored.Everything, from the religion, to the weapons and armor, to the government, to even the food is not only unique but also given enough context that it manages to fit in a cohesive picture and given the right weight.At the same time, the imperial presence not only is explored in an interesting way (not merely the "evil conquerors of the poor innocent dunmer", but a reality that is complex, nuanced and much closer to how these things in real life work), but it also give the player an anchor of familiarity that makes the alien parts stand out even more.The open world and the general freedom of the game works perfectly for this, since you are free to explore different parts of the settings and make your own opinion on things.Also the game doesn't frontload its lore, you have to actually search around and find it, and even live it, yourself, since there isn't even an encyclopedia or anything in game.In fact getting to uncover more details is almost a reward all on its own: for example, slavery is a relevant part of the setting, but for years I didn't know of the Twin Lamps.TL;DR: Morrowind is fun because it's a fun world to explore and live in.
>>744507994Soon. Youtubers have early access for some reason already.
>>744512715serious mod requires serious marketing
>>744512715Simple, they want to build up hype for it and draw more attention, which actively benefits the project
>>744512973>>744513126Don't get me wrong I don't care much. But it should be out soon if people are already playing it to prepare videos.
>>744513238It will, either August 22nd or 23rd
>>744509916They do. For example Garila Llethri in Ald'ruhn is the head of the waters march all the way south Hlaalu territory and it's governed in his stead by an underling and also his daughter is there as well.https://wiki.project-tamriel.com/wiki/House_Redoranhttps://en.uesp.net/wiki/Tamriel_Rebuilt:Felmaru_Llenduhttps://en.uesp.net/wiki/Tamriel_Rebuilt:Delis_Llethri
went lakediving again with my water spear. found an altmer close by that was followed by a stench and kicked out from town. remember when altmer were just a common mer race and not megalomanic evil nazis like in skyrim?
>>744509916>>744514115seeing the dilapidated buildings and being surrounded by hlaalu scum really rustled my jimmies. man i hope west morrowind gets tackled soon. do much potential
>>744515896Wtf is an altmer? You mean the thalmor race?
>>744514115I like how the TR vassal looks like a stand user and the vanilla Redoran Councilman looks like a basic bitch NPC made in the construction kit in two minutes.Bethesda should've made some unique bonemold for the Redoran masters.
>>744502004Valenvaryon
people always say morrowind's setting is what makes it good, but they don't talk enough about morrowind's gameplay and design which contributes just as much. the game plays differently from the others and that matters too. morrowind is more focused on exploration. without quest markers you have to read NPC directions and find your way. to find NPCs in towns you have to ask around. might not sound like much but it contributes a lot to making the game feel so different. its really immersive. even small quests focus on navigation. there's also a bigger emphasis on stats and numbers.
>>744516259You steal a unique helmet but they never wear it
>>744516550I don't disagree. I like traveling in morrowind and having time to think about my next steps, either for what awaits or my build and what should I do with it.
>>744516789Same, I like walking to places and planning the route and what fast travel options I should use especially when having multiple quests that want you to travel. Even in Oblivion and Skyrim I walk everywhere or use the carriage rather than direct fast travel.
installed tons of background etc mods and now I'm ready to roleplay as generic adventurer empireboo high elf that likes to conjure stuff
I like Oblivion better than Morrowind. I still play Skyrim the most because mods, man. I wish Oblivion got as many mods as Skyrim.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1If5FkObJ0
>>744519220Also just started as an Empireboo, trying to level quick and head to Solstheim to join the East Empire Company. Wanted to go Breton, but the character creation choices for Bretons are pretty ugly so I went with a Nord
>>744519845Is Oblivion now officially the least modded TES now?
>>744520258Yes
>>744495061>what version of the game should i play for my first time?The vanilla game. I will always encourage people play the game unmodded for a first playthrough. It's important to experience as Morrowind s it originally was so you can appreciate the mods more.
>>744520258Always was, Oblivion never had a big modding scene
>>744520258arena is as far as the mainline games. there are a couple dosbox configs, one or two patches and the open source engine is closeish to playable.
>>744520258Just compare their nexus pages for activity.
>>744516259Try the Interesting Outfits mod, it gets rid of all the bland NPC looks
>>744519845>I still play Skyrim the most because modsi really wanna know what mods people are talking about. excluding sex mods. because when i look at nexus it's all >le graphics>le shiny new armor set>le new dungeon>le new combat systemnothing that actually makes the game better.
>cheap liquor you find anywhere buffs your strength by 50 pointsdid bethesda do ANY balance testing in this game?
most organic morrowind thread
>>744524814is this mod still getting updates? I remember playing it years ago
>>744516550>morrowind's gameplaythe combat is very abuse-heavy and the quests all have very primitive scripting which leads to most quests either being kill missions, fetch missions or 'persuade bar fill' missions.you can tell there was room for way better quest design by playing TR, i think the best example is the TR mages guild quest to help a mage whos stuck in the rafters of their house by using dispel on them, a fantastic way of showing the player what tf dispel even does.
>>744525760Last update was in 2021 so I think it is dead for good but it does have a lot going for it already so I'd probably just consider it completed. I just wish they added more unique settlements.
Is there any good mod to let you join Indoril or Dres? I heard something about Tamriel Rebuilt planning to add something like this, how do they implement it?
Man why didn't they focus on wealth beyond measure first i need the full hlaalu land Fuck the eastern morrowind remake project nobody cares about it >>7445079943 weeks
>>744526507Tamriel Rebuilt is gonna let the player join the Indoril in the update coming up in a few weeks. Dres will be joinable as well but they're years away.
>>744525760no
>>744526507With Poison Song, you can advance the first few ranks of Indoril, and can join the Ordinators as well. But for the full Indoril experience to be playable, we have to wait until they remake the rest of Indoril lands and make Almalexia, so... 5 more years or so intertwined with other territory releases. Next expansion is Wealth Beyond Measure, finishing Hlaalu content for good, and then the focus will be on Redoran territories (Silgrad Tower, then 2 more Redoran releases) and Indoril lands being redone & expanded upon.Once all of that is done, it'll be time to start doing Dres lands & content and redoing Telvanni's.
>>744476178morrowind is the only good TES game with good creativityoblivion is literally basic medieval europeskyrim is a disney attraction but even less deep
>>744524487Did you miss the Followers and Quests categories on purpose or are you just stupid?
One thing I liked about Morrowind is that I can easily get lost in it and have no idea where to go. Pretty easy to happen in Vivec but can also happen in other places. The lack of knowing where to go causes you to be sucked into the immediate world like a real RPG. I've never been lost in Skyrim.
>>744527748Every Skyrim follower mod is reddit to the max
>>744526609>>744527636I wish Dres got more attention, they have so much potential but they always feel just outside of the Great Houses when it comes to aesthetics.
>>744527848This.>Go to Vivec or one of the TR cities for the first time>Spend an entire day just wandering it and checking out all the houses there>Sometimes stumble into neat quests or learn some cool lore>Most of the time it's just some guy annoyed at you being in his house but he'll still probably say something unique.
>TR team opened a donation pool to cover server costs>immediately hits their target goal in 2 hours
>>744530645iirc Dres discussion is a proverbial minefield because someone on Discord always freaks out when slavery is mentioned. It's practically an inside joke at this point.
>>744532047so that's why there are so many morrowind threads, they're constantly promoting the game
>>744478747What other RPG games allow for similar sequence breaking?
>>744513325Yeah, dude. Just release once the vacation season is over so as few people as possible get to play it.Compared to genius MAYDAY release of last year when entire working class got to enjoy TR on release day.
>>744533483What if they release it when it's done?
Correct opinion: Suran, Vos and Maar Gan are the kinoest locations in Vvardenfell
>>744530645They're complicated to pull off since they're the one Great House with 0 representation whatsoever in TES III and their ESO and Legends self manages to be about as bland as literally nothing, so there's a lot dispute over what they should be like exactly
>>744532682I understand why mods and creative projects have discords but that's the sort of reason why I really despise the types of communities that form there.>>744535571I'm not sure the best way to do it without it being derivative but I imagine them as being somewhere between all the other Houses when it comes to their cultureIndoril - focus on tradition and heritageHlaalu - financial competency regarding slave tradingRedoran - necessity of martial prowess in a Spartan-Helot way Telvanni - sheer inumanity
>>744476178navigating Vivec alone is a good reason not to play this shit game
>>744537094Get a pencil and paper and draw yourself a map/directions>>744533971Kino image
>>744502004>early gameCaius' house>mid gameNedhelas' House in Caldera>end gameSorkvild's Tower in Dagon Fel
>>744501408why?
>>744537286it's not that I get lost, it's that walking around in that game sucks balls and the city is too damn big
>>744537094there are many landmarks for orientation.
>>744537094The city feels like it was designed to have hundreds of people walk in it. Instead the outsides are almost completely empty. It always feels off to me
Wow nice community morrochuds
>>744537094>Vivec is hard to navigate!>look inside>literally only one layout for the entire city
>>744538619>Lady NerevarQuestionably accurate title>gay money is fine but not the other kindsWhat a silly billy
>>744538619LadyN switched to the ESO team long ago, she's no longer ours
>>744538619You could also have shared the bit after that in which a mod appeared, told them to shut the fuck up, and everyone was reminded TR as a whole doesn't care about real-life identities and politics in any way and is just trying to do a good lore-friendly representation of mainland Morrowind, and if there's a random trans character here or there because somebody wanted to put it in it doesn't matter as long as no one decides to go on a crusade like that person of the picture (who btw was having that meltdown over some other dev saying and offhand comment over Vivec's masculinity and lack of feminity given his model ingame).
>>744503036>pretty city and homes >easy to travel to>nearby very useful traderswhy shouldn't i live in mournhold?
>>744538957>if there's a random trans character here or there because somebody wanted to put it in it doesn't matter as long as no one decides to go on a crusadeWhy include one in the first place? That is just stupid and should be completely avoided when you already have Vivec as a lightning rod for those freaks to misunderstand. Fuck you for making my brain remember the tranny from Dragon Age Inquisition.
You n'wah!
>>744533971>that bosmer and redguard on the rightSexo
>>744539062Its far from everything nigga
>>744538881it's an actual woman believe it or not, kirkbride's wife since the 2000s
>>744538619What's the story here?
>>744476178Oblivion is better than Skyrim and Morrowind
>>744540057I don't like knowing this lore
>>744476178Wordbuilding, more classes, levitation, bigger weapon selection, chud writing, style, lore. Morrowind has everything.
>>744541154I'd say Oblivion is the worst only because I don't really like the potato heads and the VA pisses me off
I kneel for ranifaces
>>744540042Just go shop for groceries with Mark and Recall.
Soon
>>744533971They are all nice and all, but there's no perfecting Balmora. Balmora is easily the comfiest town with a great layout, that feels lively and full of opportunity.Suran is the next runner up and also quite comdy, but it isn't as lively or interesting as Balmora.
>>744537094It's a city you only go to if you have to tbqh
>>744541154Oblivion is objectively the worst of them all because it's the most copy + paste of them all (Ayleid Ruins #100, Caves #231, Mines #30 , Forts #50, Sewers #13, Oblivion Gates #33 — all missing proper environmental storytelling and unique elements that differentiate themselves) with broken systems (poor level scaling, retarded Radiant AI dialogue) and the most generic setting. It's really only saved by it's campiness that help make many of its bad elements seem kind of charming.It also butchers much of the established lore, and I'm not just talking about the fact that Cyrodiil was meant to have a more jungle-like biome, but the lack of differentiation between Colovian and Nibenese cultures, and many other things that were basically steamrolled over to create one of the most generic fantasy games of all time.
>>744545135>retarded Radiant AI dialoguetbf it helps to make it feel alive, it's way more immersive than morrowind. skyrim is the most immersive only because of the better graphics and more attention to detail in citiesthe generic setting and throwing away morrowind's lore is just personal preference
Kinda tempted to make a vivec only file, not allowed to leave the city, kinda cheaty as its the most sprawling one in the game or just confine myself to some region like azura coast
>>744545504>tbf it helps to make it feel aliveIt did make it feel more alive, but also less real. It's pretty goofy though, so at least you can laugh about it>the generic setting and throwing away morrowind's lore is just personal preferenceIt flattens the complexity of the setting/worldspace and its inhabitants. It's objectively less interesting and feels less properly lived-in as a result.That's the Morrowind appeal Oblivion is lacking. Hell, even Skyrim has more cultural distinctions and layering in its worldspace.
>>744541154Nah, it's the worst by far which is why its only fans only like it because "it's le comfy" and "it made me feel good back in the day :)" while Skyrim and Morrowind actually get people invested in the world
>>744546429Do it. But I see no reason why you would explicitly be confined to Vivec City. I'd probably expand to the Ascadian Isles (a range that would be realistic for an actual resident of Vivec city the remain within). Home in St. Delyn Waist North-Two, set yourself the goal of paying weekly rent or something like that
>>744546443I've been thinking about this revently. The way Morrowind's and Oblivion's worlds were written had very different purposes from one another. Morrowind, i think (i have no idea if it was a conscious decision from Bethesda's part), basically makes up for its lack of character writing by trying to get the audience to fall in love with the world instead. Hence the main quest often just telling you to go read history books, and it having several elements that unironically appeal to the "what do they eat" and "what's his tax policy" crowd. Oblivion on the other hand was ultimately trying to be the most accessible fantasy game possible, and to do that, as Kirkbride infamously pointed out, it borrowed a lot from the most popular fantasy media at the time, the Peter Jackson Lord of the Rings movies. In this context, the Elder Scrolls setting and all its weird unique quirks were more than anything obstacles on Bethesda's way of conquering the general audience. They made the conscious decision of turning Cyrodiil into a rather standard medieval fantasy land and went all in on wacky character writing, and the once complex worldbuilding marked by details and intricate political stuff was replaced with a fairy tale-like approach. It's a story where the good king died, spiky red and black guys threaten the land, and therefore you must find the next good king before it's too late, there are no subversions or interesting questions like what Morrowind dies with the concept of the Nerevarine.The poster you replied to was right that it is ultimately a matter of personal preference, but at the end of the day, I'd say Morrowind's approach was objectively better at getting people hooked. After all, Morrowind fans are the ones who've spent the past 20 years trying to bring the setting they love so much to life through modding, while all Oblivion fans have to say about their own game is "yeah it was fun".
>>744476178Deep lore, very alien world, and the devs clearly liked the setting and took it seriously
>>744546429
>>744495061Vanilla with just the Morrowind plugin for a few levels and then add the Tribunal and Blood Moon plugins. Because goty edition starts you off with all the plugins so you start getting attacked by assassins in at level 1, which isn't really a problem at all, but it doesn't make sense that you just got to Morrowind by boat and these dudes want to kill you right away.
as much as it triggers the "muh objective game design analysis!!!!!" s_0ys out there, it quite literally just has a certain je ne sais quoi. its like experiencing a piece of music that moves you beyond words or a david lynch film. its simply sublime in a way that cannot be clearly expressed with words
>>744495061you are a fucking annoying faggot
>>744505058viking fantasy is possibly the most overdone fantasy ever. i dont know what the fuck youre on.
>>744548402I think Caldera was the first area I visited after Balmora and right away I loved the difference between native architecture and foreign architecture. That's some very good soul there that was lost in Oblivion and Skyrim.
>>744535571they should honestly just email kirkbride and ask him to cook up a one page schizo word document for dres for them to go off of.
>>744524487Anything that's in Gate to Sovngarde, look into it
>>744548595definitely. i feel very similarly about pathologic. lots of dumb game design decisions, but it absolutely does not matter because playing it and experiencing it and thinking about it is immensely stimulating. just like morrowind is
>>744502004I like the empty apartment in St. Olms
>>744540250Lady Nerevar (who is fucking or has married Kirkbride at this point) wants to push for a 'they' pronoun for Vivec. The hardline chud that keeps TR safe from this instantly shut it down and she decided to push it further and try to paint him in a bad light too. She'll probably try more shit in the future and attempt to get him canceled. She's been a plague in the TR community.
>>744549210She's been married to Kirkbride for like 20 years now. In general, she's a bit of a constant in the Elder Scrolls community, she was actually a dev for TR back in its 2000s era after all
>>744548582name 3 besides Skyrim, nuGoW and AssCreed Valhalla
>>744540042>can use boat or divine intervention to get to ebonheart which teleports you to mournholdseems pretty easy to me!
>>744511719Honestly i just right before grabbong the orb thing and reload until i get what i want, then dupe it. If i really feel like i have to close gates i will chameleon straight thru to the end. I need a mod that adds levitation and more morrowind-y magic system.
>>744550480*save b4 grabbing orb
>>744549785Rune, Loki heroes of mythology and Too Human off the top of my head. anyways, my point wasnt exclusive to games. its just a generic and highly overdone setting/aesthetic in fantasy media in general and its always flanderized fucking garbaget. scandinavian
>>744516259shes a scalie war veteran
>>744538619Does she just go over everyone and just assume what politics the person follows? Everyone has their own beliefs, but just keep their beliefs to themselves. She probably checks everyone on her Patreon to see if they are a nazi or bigot.
>>744537094Just levitate/jump. Besides 90% of the time you are just going to the foreign canton
>>744546429In morrowind mp i had a khajiit skooma dealer who ran to get his dope at the dren plantation and sold it to players in vivec. Ended up getting banned when i made one of my junkies blow me and left it on world chat. O.o
>tfw no strong redoran wife
>>744509916yes actually
>>744551856>tfw no weak hlaalu wife
>>744551856>tfw no average telvanni wife
>>744525851nta but remember the room was there on a technical level, not practical.vanilla morrowind was kludged together desperately, and it shows in both good and bad ways.
>>744553604>telvanni>averageBro
>>744551856>>744552625>>744553604You'll get kot wife and you'll be happy
Mages guild or Telvanni in TR? if i join one my reputation craters with the other
>>744550729>t. scandinavianthis is cheating
>>744551293>you aren't playing a mage and/or you don't have specific magic items for these specific spells?>you're playing the game wrong, the base movement is designed to be circumvented regardless of build
>>744553910All Telvanni content is very old and is scheduled for a revamp. Mages Guild is great and has quests in all the new regions, so you'll have plenty to do.
>>744554012Its settled then, thank you
Kinda wish i could do infinite/radiant delivery quest/busywork (a la Ajira from the balmora mages guild) i find that kind of stuff relaxing, so like daggerfall quest system but for morrowind
>>744553772yes
Went through most of the game not realizing you get Enchanting XP for using magic items. Running around shooting lightning out of my pants to make up for it.
>>744557394It's pretty minimal XP tho
>>744476178>What is it about Morrowind that makes it so good in spite of its flaws?Great exploration, story, lore, atmosphere.
>>744541154classic
Playing Skyrim right now, thinking about finally doing the civil war questline. Unironically, who would side with the Imperials? What's the appeal?>try to kill you for no reason at the beginning of the game>clearly a puppet of the Altmer illuminati and banned worship of their own fucking emperor (who the Nords also worship) to appease these tall goblins>during the main quest, Tullius chimps out and screeches that you're favoring the Stormcloaks if you... say that Ulfric and Tullius should both give up one city apiece in a fair and equal exchange for peaceLike what am I missing here, where's the stuff that actually shows the Empire's good side in Skyrim itself (as opposed to other games)?
>>744560269>imperialsmongrel dogs>stormcloaksretarded cave men>thalmorpissmergo back to the skyrim thread
>>744546443complexity =/= good, also morrowind's setting is barely more complex outside of immersion-breaking details
>>744561345chill out retard
>>744560269I never even considered the Stormcloaks.you're right that if Skyrim the does a bad job of making players understand or care about the Empire. But anyone coming off of Morrowind and especially Oblivion "gets" what the Empire is all about, and I think the case for the Empire becomes stronger for pretty much any race besides Nord, and even then it'd be divisive for the average Nordic family.Can I ask what your roleplay was? Consider that every vanilla player has to headcanon a reason why their character was coming from Cyrodil at the beginning.My Khajiit was born in Cyrodil, his family had gone from affluent to destitute over the course of the Great War a generation ago, and at this point had turned to thievery, He was fleeing Bruma county northwards when he got caught up with a bunch of rebels. Cyrodilic Khajiit obviously don't stand to gain from joining the Stromcloaks. Khajiit cares not for Talos and the near-execution would never have happened without rebel rabble-rousers.over the course of the game he figured out the Thalmor's long game of pitting man against man, and decided a decisive victory one way or the other in the civil war was the best course of action. I guess he was a Hobbesian status quo enjoyer so ending the war with the Empire still in control was the most normal course of action.I guess the only other pro-empire thing I'll say is that most of Skyrim's holds are corrupt and shitty and poor besides Solitude. Bandits and crime and monsters are so bad that the Nords seem almost incapable of self-governance. Nords are kind of assholes in Morrowind too, killing low level players for fun. Nordic thievesguild and fighters guild and mage guild are all disasters from the minute the DB walks in their doors. Might cause a player to desire some order in all the chaos.
>>744562752I played Morrowind before this and nah, I still really don't care about the Empire at all. The only thing they really did for me in that game was have the mages guild provide me with a convenient teleport service. Yeah, I know the Blades get you started on the main quest and all, but the results of the main quest ended up fucking over Vvardenfell in the long run anyway, so that bit is kind of a wash>I guess the only other pro-empire thing I'll sayI mean, I don't think you really said anything pro-empire before this>Bandits and crime and monsters are so bad that the Nords seem almost incapable of self-governanceYou could lay that at the feet of the empire just as much as you could the StormcloaksWhen there's a war going on, lowlives will take advantage of the chaos, that's just how things are.
>>744563224The Nords only magic school fell into the ocean and their fighters guild is a bunch of good for nothing drunken WEREWOLVES. Skyrim is kind of a backwater besides Solitude. Also Maven Blackbriar is running the only non-capital city in Stormcloak territory. the war is bad business for everyone and the Stormcloaks started it. It is important to note that it is less "Cyrodil VS Skyrim" and more "the entire empire +the Solitude half of Skyrim VS Windhelm and some sympathizers"I ask again, what is your character's race and backstory that makes the Stormcloaks seem good to you? Why would an average Breton join them? Unless personal grievance with the Empire was baked into their backstory. Stormcloaks seem politically isolated and unpopular in the greater setting.Morrowind players always act like the Empire sucks because larping as a xenophobic dunmer is fun. In reality though, The Imperial Mages Guild is an invaluable asset to any character. The Imperial Cult is a truly good charity organization, and the Imperial Legion fights crime and monsters on behalf of the citizens. Meanwhile Dunmer institutions kill people indiscriminately.In Skyrim, Hadvar or Ralof or whatever says "Imperial walls used to make me feel so safe" Yea, let us return to that. Let's not tear down everything around us in a thalmor-approved chimpout. Stormcloaks are short-sighted.admittedly every game I play Khajiit thief first, Imperial Legionnaire second. I'm biased in that way I guess because the Khajiit takes advantage of Imperial hospitality/ meritocracy and is opposed to Dunmer and Nordic nationalists. Meanwhile my Imperial characters always just kind of do the whole "for the 9 and Emperor, citizen" shtick. Oblivion players spend all game saving Cyrodil so they have a sunken cost in keeping it going.
>>744564154>I ask again, what is your character's race and backstory that makes the Stormcloaks seem good to you?If you must know I'm currently playing as a Nord mage, but regardless, my question is concerning things that are presented in game, not headcanon. And while there's not a good non-RP related reason to join the Stormcloaks, the reasons I presented above are non RP-related reasons to avoid joining the empire, things that objectively happened in the game. And yeah, it doesn't really matter if my character cares about Talos, the point is that the Empire is too pathetic to even stand firm on the man that founded themso if there's nothing counterbalancing this and I want to end the war anyway, well, might as well favor the side that I don't feel like a bitch for joining
>>744560269I do not care about sneedrim "lore"
>>744520258>morrowblivion is still getting updatesBless those chads
>>744562752NTA but what do you think a Temple zealot from Morrowind would support if push cane to shove? It seems hard to imagine them being pro-Empire, but no way would they support Ulfric and his racism, right?
>>744554006Okay just use the boat like a nerd, or cry about it.
>>744476178I think the barrier to entry is a bit high for me, but everything I've seen about the game looks really cool.
>>744550729Literally no one has ever heard of the first two games, and Too Human is not Viking fantasy.Point still stands, viking fantasy in vidya was pretty much unheard of before Skyrim. Even in TV, viking fantasy isn't generally a common trope.
>>744562752didn't really read all that but I'm looking at the image you posted and what the fuck is>Neo Vivecis that even remotely canon because even on top of the name being a bit silly why the hell would the dunmer name anything new after the disgraced false god of "good luck, assholes"
>>744560269It's usually either le wholesome r*dditfaggots who are shocked by the most mild racism of all time in Cyrodiil or delusional retards that think if you keep supporting the Empire while it turns a blind eye to your raping it'll somehow return to its former gloryImagine it from the perspective of a Nord>Thalmor capture the capital>Empire on its last legs>onelaststand>Run up to Skyrim>Nords gather their remaining men to push out the elves and succeed>uncountable losses>Your reward after getting maimed saving the Empire is to see friends and family get kidnapped in the middle of the night and tortured/killed for worshipping a God the Imperials and the Imperial Cult were pushing for centuries>Can't do anything about kn*fe ears walking around your land freely and doing what they want because muh White-Gold Concordat
>>744569702in Tamriel*
>>744562752retarded argonian fanboy mapmorrowind reclaimed tear by the time of skyrim
>>744476178Wasn't Poison Dong supposed to come out this summer?
>>744562752>>744564154Yeah sorry chud but Talos worship is going to remain and Skyrim deserves it's independence>Let's not tear down everything around us in a thalmor-approved chimpout. Stormcloaks are short-sighted.Sign another peace treaty that lets the Altmer piss in your mouth and infiltrate your entire nation just so everyone knows how not short-sighted the Empire is
>>744569702What gets me the most is that the Empire were literally winning when they signed the peace and at worst it was a draw. The Elves could not muster another attack and the humans would grow stronger with time as more reinforcements and fresh conscripts joined the ranks. They gave up because the same defeatist mentality that caused them to be so ill-prepared in the first place remained prevalent at high command despite objectively regaining the initiative. They even accepted the original Elven terms, Empire fags are so delusional.
>>744568007you asked about the temple specifically but ALMSIVI isnt even around in the 4th era and whatever reclamation tribunal of daedra took over has no official position. Mephala and Boethiah would appreciate Ulfric killing Torygg in his quest to usurp power. So maybe following the Stormcloaks woulkd be interesting in the spirit of the Three "good" daedra.the politics itself of nords vs empire is kind of small potatoes to a dark elf. 3rd era nords disliked the Empire and the armistice or whatever with Vivec and Tiber Septim but A LOT has changed, their priorities would be the loss of the Living Gods, the Argonian invasion, and the refugee meteor/eruption crisis. Empire feels a lot like the lesser of evils compared to An-xileel, dragons, and even the Aldmeri Dominion. >>744568753honestly I've never heard of "NeoVivec" the map is in no way official or canon. Stands out to me too. Imagine this though, Vivec might be a crater but the Great House's Vaults would make it a hotspot for treasure hunters, divers, delvers. It was a lot of people's homes so I feel like it'd still be on maps but maybe "Vivec Ruins" wouldve been better.>>744571660ok enjoy your brother war idiot. Even if Stormcloaks win they'll have zero allies or trade partners. They have no magic users. if the Thalmor can make the moons dissappear, they could probably do some shit to freeze or starve out Skyrim in a conflict down the road. Skyrim really can't project power. Isolation will mean quiet death or irrelevance at best.
Linux or Windows for modded skyrim?
>>744572461This nigga really said they'd "freeze" Skyrim
>>744572461>zero alliesHammerfell or the Bretons in High Rock, who would now be cut off from the Empire and are historically untrustworthy, would both be willing to trade, get real.>They have no magic usersI don't even need to pull out the Dragonborn card here, Ulfric and all the others have their court wizards, stop reading into Nord prejudice against magic and believing it means they never use it when literally every hold does.>if the Thalmor can make the moons dissappearAm I talking to a fucking cat? They played your ass with an Illusion spell you fucking rug.>Skyrim really can't project powerHistorically they absolutely can, their empire for example, but that is also assuming that Ulfric would want to instead of just consolidating his independent kingdom and keeping the peace with House Redoran who are the most likely conflict and they are already way too busy to start an unnecessary war with the Nords.>Isolation will mean quiet death or irrelevance at best.I can absolutely see Ulfric choosing to align with the Empire on an equal basis assuming a new Great War starts, the difference is they would be equals this time instead of the Nords being treated as just farm province where funds and recruits get drawn from.
>>744573497https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Atmora>with frost, placing it in a permanent winter,[8] and potentially even freezing it in time.[UOL 1] The cause of the event is uncertain, though one tale attributes it as revenge by the Snow Elves for the genocide of their people at the hands of the AtmoransThe Thalmor made the moons dissappear and reappear during their conquest of Elsweyr. Elves might've frozen human lands once before, could maybe do it again.Elf-made horrors beyond your comprehension
>>744573736Highrock is still loyal to the Empire why would they trade with traitors? I doubt Hammerfell appreciates Ulfric opening another theatre in the war, the Empire's troops would've been better stationed to assist Hammerfell in the current war than fighting this stupid civil war.a handful of court wizards cannot stand up to the Dominion, they don't have access to any trumpcards that the average Thalmor agent couldn't also cast. Typical Nord arrogance, causing you to underestimate your opponent. That is why Nords are best used as grunts for empire, your province has no manners, no sense of logistics or reality. Nord Empire glory days was a very long time ago. Skyrim isn't "equal" it is literally only good as a farm province. Ulfric is making Skyrim less than useful, an actively harmful liability.Ulfric's "independent kingdom" would fare about as well as Pelletine and Anequina did (divided and conquered instantly) or Orsinium (raped and sacked infinite times)>They played your ass with an Illusion spell you fucking rugThe Void Nights really happened you schizo. Recorded in every province. Khajiit furstocks being effected means NO MOONS, not just hidden. Imagine the Thalmor disappear the sun, hmm? would be very cold for you.
I have had almost 0 experience with TR up until very recently where I included it in my mod list. From what I'm seeing here the devs of it are fighting against its troonification? Sounds based, maybe I need to invest more time in it
>>744499458What i am looking at and how do i get it.
>>744476178Imo morrowind feels amazing because of its world building. When you play it you can feel like you're on some alien planet with giant mushrooms, weird alien like creatures and different alien like locals. You really feel like youve been thrown out there into this hostile alien world to survive. It was also the times when devs were not complete soys, so you got full out racism, slavery and all npcs telling you to fuck off as an outlander/n'wah. It's such a unique unforgiving world that no other game managed to imitate.
>>744537094True but the game is still worth playing
>>744574687>Highrock is still loyal to the Empire why would they trade with traitors?Money + proximity + who's going to stop them? Is Cyrodiil going to ship a Legion up on a punitive expedition when facing the Aldmeri threat to the South? Don't act like Bretons are renowned for their unified culture, enough noble houses will smell the opportunity to make a difference.>I doubt Hammerfell appreciates Ulfric opening another theatre in the war, the Empire's troops would've been better stationed to assist HammerfellLol, lmao. Why would Hammerfell give a fuck when they already won their war? This is the same Empire that literally wrote them off, the Legions staying behind is cool but that was not the Imperial Tower doing that but the Legates and Legionaries themselves. The Redguards don't need Imperial troops (which are not even officially allowed in Hammerfell) as they already signed a ceasefire with the Altmer.>a handful of court wizards cannot stand up to the Dominion, they don't have access to any trumpcards that the average Thalmor agent couldn't also cast.So you admit that Nords DO have magic users and you were being facetious, no one said they were on the same level as the Aldmeri.>Typical Nord arrogance, causing you to underestimate your opponentLoserOfTheGreatWarSaysWhat?>That is why Nords are best used as grunts for empireCrazy that Nords don't like the Empire with such "brotherhood of men" statements as that. That is literally the Empire's policy and they wonder why Nords think they are gay manlets.>Ulfric's "independent kingdom" would fare about as well as Pelletine and Anequina did (divided and conquered instantly) or Orsinium (raped and sacked infinite times)Alright Zurin Arctus, tell me who is going to invade Skyrim and from where? I swear you people never look at a map, Skyrim is fucking perfect to defend once you have united the holds. You have mountains all around it with a sea titled "of ghosts" to the North.>cat meowingCry about it kitten
A Telvanni Altmer Autist that collects every rare item in order to ascend to godhood is what i plan for when poison song comes out. Is it possible to get the unique trinkets from the main quest without doing it?
>>744476178Morrowind is genuine. As in, it may as well be an actual world and not just a video game even if it is contrained by limitations inposed on it and inhenet to it as a video game/product. Deterministic design helps to ground it and makes it feel genuine too.Morrowind > Skyrim > Oblivion? Yes, in general. Although i find that Skyrim = Oblivion, due to both games having too many flaws but of different kind. Skyrim is bland and mediocre, writing sucks ass, gameplay is tedious and overstrained, but its a good sandbox and walking sim, and has more mechanics even if they are shallow, while Oblivion's gameplay is fine even if a bit floaty but level-scaling and level-scaled world design absolutely kill it, despite having some genuinely good writing and quest designs, NPC schedules/AI and expressive faces (people complain about potato-heads, but they ignore the fact that player can read NPCs emotional/psychological states based on expressiveness of their faces).So its more of Morrowind >>> Skyrim = Oblivion IMO. Because if you modernise gameplay mechanics for Morrowind, the quality of the game overall will absolutely outperform modernised gameplay of Skyrim or Oblivion.Think of them this way. Morrowind is the world you live in. Oblivion is the adventures/escapades you get into. Skyrim is the walk in the park/outdoors. Silly, but the meaning is there.
>>744562752I hate all those 4E tamriel maps because they all are different kind of headcanon, especially with morrowind where skyrim itself can't decide what's going on there. And this map went turboretarded with it on top of everything
>>744481048Why did the Dunmer settle Vvardenfell?So that they have something new to complain about.
>>744577410sunder/keening/wraithguard I think you can yeah, dunno what else there is
>>744577410stop being a pussy, take your part in the prophecy and fulfil your destiny
>>744578468ashlander nerevarine and hortator trinkets for example. i would consider Caius's personal skooma pipe a trinket as well, even if it isnt named. i'll just take that when he is skooma'd out of his mind though, so thats not an issue
>>744572461>ok enjoy your brother war idiotThe "brother war" is happening regardless you dumb fuck>Even if Stormcloaks win they'll have zero allies or trade partnersThat's not a problem for Hammerfell and the Redguards (who also btw look suspiciously at magic users), who were able to beat the Thalmor back without the help of the Thalmor lapdogs (The Empire).>they could probably do some shit to freeze or starve out Skyrim in a conflict down the road.So you have to make up fake happenings to justify why Nords should get raped by kn*fe ears?Also see:>>744569702
>>744516428>breton alchemy master>surrounded by orcsOrc'd.
>>744578587I think not, unless characters that give them have always on them so you can steal/pillage from them. but I've never done it so idk
>>744525672It only lasts 60 seconds.Balance is a finnicky thing. Plenty of issues with it in Morrowind, but it gets absolutely absurd in Oblivion and Skyrim. And when i say balance, i mean shit like mead restoring 20 points of stamina and damaging stamina regen, or food healing for 1-5 points of health, or leather boots weigting 1 unit while slippers weight 2.
>>744573879If elves could somehow place Skyrim under a permanent winter, they can place all lands that oppose them under a permanent winter as well. Spoiler: they can't.So what's your point?>Hey Nordcucks, you don't like that the Empire is letting the Thalmor an*lrape your friends and families for holding beliefs the Empire itself has been proselytizing across its lands for centuries?>Uh but don't try anything because imagine if this fake scenario occursCuck mentality.
>>744525757We dont use those ammonia fertilisers or GMO seeds. Only natural compost. All our posts are 100% organic.
I can't make myself start new character because of upcoming update but I haven't done any TR content in first place...
>>744530645>>744532682>>744536848Dress are literally "the saltrice must flow". Think Harkonnen from Dune, except instead of spice its rice and thus slaves.
>>744574687>Highrock is still loyal to the EmpireHigh Rock is a fractured collection of rival kingdoms that might nominally answer to the Empire, but they aren't going to financially cripple themselves by cutting off both Hammerfell and Skyrim over Cyrodiil's politics, be fr right now.Half of High Rock's economy revolves around the Iliac Bay, which they share directly with Hammerfell. There is absolutely zero lore suggesting High Rock embargoed Hammerfell after they left the Empire to fight the Thalmor, so why would they treat Skyrim any differently?Plus, Breton politics essentially consists of merchants and nobles backstabbing each other for profit. If one kingdom tries an embargo, they risk getting outcompeted by neighboring kingdoms that WILL be open to relations and trade. If Daggerfall or Wayrest tries to play hardball with Skyrim, border kingdoms like Evermore or Jehanna will gladly scoop up those trade contracts to secure the bag. Weak argument.
>>744500962>skyrim felt boring and the fake accents were off puttingAre you aware not everyone sounds like an amerimutt
>>744568239How to Train your dragon was 2010, Thor and Game of Thrones the same year as Skyrim.Was definitely something going on in hollyjew at the time.
>>744500962>and the fake accents were off puttingAs a Euro, they are pretty convincing Scandi/Scandi-adjascent accents. They easily contributed to a more convincing atmosphere than if every Nord had an American accent, or God forbid, a tropey British accent.>Skyrim had the most bland worldThat goes to Oblivion by FAR. But both Skyrim and Oblivion can be considered considerably more bland than Morrowind.
>>744538889>ESO team?>ESOI hate it. After playing it and finally getting to CP160, i wanted to rope. Worst progression system ever.
>>744538957>>744539064>trans char>in Morrowind>in ES settingWhy? Magick exists and already allows you to transform yourself into desired sex/gender/whatever(crystal).>muh representationWhy? Just roll a char that is your desired gender/sex/etc.
>>744564154If you play the game and listen to dialogues, especially Hadvar's parents in Riverwood, people tell you that everything was fine and calm and there were no Thalmor until Ulfric made a chimpout in Markarth. And its because of that chimpout that Thalmor got uppity and reminded everyone of that clause in Concordate about Talos. Thank you Ulfric. And then the bastard used consequences of his chimpout as a justification for uprising and rebellion. Siding with Stormcloaks is basically siding with misguided people who are too emotional and led by a Thalmor puppet and managed by people who want to gain some power.In all of my playthroughs, i have never sided with Stormcloaks. And never will.
I’m playing TR blind for the first time after playing vanilla a couple of times over the years and it’s so absurdly huge it feels outside the scope of video games.
>>744579620>a tropey British accentThat guy in Thieve's guild.>american accentThose peeps in Thieve's guild. Vex you bitch, you owe me sex.
>>744580476Its fantastic. Stick to the recent areas, ignore Telvanni lands because that content needs a massive update.
>>744580464>if you don't give the genocidal foreign tyrants an opportunity to enact their legal right to kill you and your family then everything is fineGenuinely one of the most goycattle statements I've ever read
>>744476178Trannywind
>>744578541i'm doing a nerevarine run right now so i dont want to repeat the same quests.
>>744579520post-Lotr fantasy revival
>>744476178FUCK no, you retarded niggerfaggot. Skyrim is far, far inferior to Oblivion because Skyrim's quests are complete dogshit and even modding the game to infinity doesn't fix that. Not to mention the decimated NPC AI, no more of them traveling between cities or stealing if they run out of food and their honor is low enough. Skyrim is so fucking static and boring. Meanwhile you can fix Oblivion with like three mods, since it's all mechanics (which even then I had no problem with as a kid playing the game and only found out later zoomoids can't even play a baby game like Oblivion right).
Average Skyrim modderhttps://files.catbox.moe/ph4wim.mp4
>>744524487Yep. Skyrim can't be fixed with modding, the underlying quests are fucking shit and boring.
whats the closest films and shows that capture morrowind feels? is it just dark crystal?
>>744581809Never ending story has something about it
>>744581680Oblivitard cope
>>744520317>>744520258>>744520746Wrong. Oblivion has by far more mods. People here can be delusional lmao, Morrowind filters way too many people.>>744567632Shit, it's been too long since I played that. Need to boot it up.
>>744579103Is it ever stated that Morrowind relies on Dres produce? This is really making them form an aesthetic in my mind, the implication that a famine could be caused by fucking with them really sets the scene for why they like to be left alone and don't care about Vvardenfell.
https://en.m.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:ItheliaThis makes fans of the legacy TES games shit and piss themselves
>>744538957>>744538619there's a fucking tranny in tamriel rebuilt? Why was I not informed? Not installing this compromised dogshit anymore.
>>744541154TRVKE.>>744546497It's the worst if you're a retard casualnigger who doesn't realize skyrim is trash with the most dogshit quests and neutered gameplay systems.
>>744581871oh thats right, how could i forget. it's been a while as well. thanks anon
>>744547740>a fairy tale-like approach. It's a story where the good king died, spiky red and black guys threaten the land, and therefore you must find the next good king before it's too late, there are no subversionsYes this is EXACTLY what I love about Oblivion. I love the fairytale sincerity. I WANT to be the Sam to Martin's Frodo. The world is perfect, it just needs more fleshed-companions to form a party BG2-style for the whole journey and all the encounters and all the locations and all the quests to be the perfect game.
>>744581872>no counterargumentyou know your game is trash with awful guilds and quests and completely removed gameplay systems like magic creation and stats. Go do shitty short tasks and become guildmaster, wowie. Kek. I was there for the launch of Skyrim btw and was immensely disappointed.
>>744547740>yeah it was funWeird, because every time I see someone shitting on Oblivion, a fan will bring up all the excellent stuff in it and not just "yeah it was fun".
>>744581061Fuck off back to the cesspit you crawled out of.>create precedent because you are a retard>evil bastards use precedent to impose X>chimp out over X because you are a retard who cannot take responsibility and made everyoone else's life difficult>proceed to chimp out against the only power who can stop evil bastards because legal binding treaty forces them to acquiest to evil bastards demands>still take no responsibility for precedent that caused evil bastards to take notice in the first place>turns out precedent was cause by your retarded ass because you are a retard who cannot into politics and negotiations>turns out your retarded ass was molested by evil bastards and you are doing their biddingThe only goycattle is you anon.>goycattle>ever even using this termI suggest euthanasia to ease your suffering.
>>744582009>cucks herself out of existencetravels shadowkey tier of irrelevant
>>744581969Dres are THE largest prodicers of saltrice. And saltrice requires a lot of slave labour. Saltrice (so basically rice but has nutrients) is THE main economic export of Dres to the rest of province.There are other foods, wickwheat, marshmerrow, hackle-lo, ash yams, and then all the meat from bugs, kwama, guars, etc. but nothing on the scale to satisfy the population of Morrowind at large, i think. Basically Dres surplus production of rice keeps them wealthy and Morrowind fed. Think of China and rice exports/consumption.
>>744582009It was the dumbest shit ESO pulled off by far. They are abject retards for creating that shit.
>>744582214There's nothing sincere about it. It's a soulless corporate attempt at appealing to the lowest common denominator and it achieves that by neutering an actually good and unique fantasy setting.
>>744582165>Oblivitard>Calling anyone else a casualniggerfucking kek kys dementia haverHow's going to generic Ayleid ruin or Oblivion Gate for the hundredth time going for you?
>>744548746eh, modern kirkbride would probably include shit from oblivion/skyrim or ESO after his wife became a shill for it or the stupid fucking bat people fanfic he likes for some reason or his own space opera fanficshe already contributed enough by drawing concept art of the dres like 3 times back in the day
>>744582335>I was there for the launch of Skyrim btw and was immensely disappointed.Is this your personal blog? I don't care faggot your fave game still sucks
>>744582608tl;dr
>>744582939There's everything sincere about it. The setting is unique in the beauty and peace and serenity it inspires when I postpone the main quest, just as it should be before the crisis. Martin is beloved, I wish he had more commentary because traveling with him is the closest you can get to a pure fairytale journey like the early chapters of FOTR. I'm sorry you are too jaded to appreciate something this pure.
>>744583602There's nothing pure about a corporation ripping off the most popular thing around at the time bro, especially when it ruins a preexisting thing in the process
>>744583401>>744583401GoyCattle got mad that he is getting called out>The "KILL YOU ON SIGHT" clause was never going to be used you CHUD, just get the jab.bro out here arguing that you shouldnt get mad that your goverment accepts a "rape and kill your family" clause in a treaty, because the "rape and kill all humans party" was never going to actually enforce it.
>>744583401Narcissistic retard makes people's lives difficult.
>>744582608>create precedent because you are a retardOtherwise known as liberate a city from inbred terrorists on the promise that freedom of religion will be respected once you and your men have liberated it only to get betrayed by the group who failed to protect the city in the first place.>chimp out over X because you are a retard who cannot take responsibility and made everyoone else's life difficultGenuine slavespeak, what is your ethnicity?>the only power who can stop evil bastards because legal binding treaty forces them to acquiest to evil bastards demandsIs English your first language? Reread your statement - how can the Empire be the only power to stop them if they are being forced by those "evil bastards" to do anything? Are you a child?>to take notice in the first placeBro>politics and negotiationsIs that when you give the invading army everything they asked for despite essentially drawing the war?>doesn't like the term goycattleShalom.
Arena should've been like 5 dungeons shorter. Just got the 5th piece and don't feel like continuing
>>744584809/pol/ - not even once.
go to the shitrim thread if you wanna discuss shitrim retards
I need dres released now with stronghold being slave plantationor generally I will take any plantation mod where I will be able to sit on the roof of a mansion and watch slaves work while I drink sujamma surrounded by female slaves of all races
>>744549210I've once read a post saying being married is like having a live-in Jew. Nobody is safe from having their wife go full leftard.
Just installed Tamriel Rebuilt for the first time, with vanilla textures.I am kind of tempted to try the HQ textures but comparisons are rare online (didn't try YT tho, I installed this late yesterday), are they not too jarring when you come from the mainland?What's your experience with them ?Also the built in shaders of OpenMW are a bit disappointing.
>>744585112Its not our fault that one of the worst (mechanically) questlines ever put into a RPG has such deep implications, and it's actually a pretty well written conflict, under all the jank.It's a testament to the strength of the quest line that both loyalists and stormcloaks will immediately argue the moment they spot each other.
>>744583939no anon, you need to understand, tullius and his fellow patriots were going to fight back against the thalmor, they just needed 2 more weeks. ulfric should've trusted the plan
>>744585589Why? Your save is stuck in current version and you'll need to restart in less than a month. Return then.
>>744585589Then download upscaled textures for Vvardenfell too? And more shaders if that's what you want.
>>744585616Skyrim just predicted the ""culture war"" somehow.
Is that morrowind overhaul from that modded openmw site any good? Heard it also has tamriel rebuilt in by default. It'# fuckhuge though.
>>744586114no please tell me what to do I'm scared to touch any computer things please thank you
>>744585081Nice learned quip fag>>744585616There's a fair few things in Elder Scrolls that are immediately on sight conflicts, Paarthurnax for example.
>>744585271I need my argonian maids feeding me mint juleps
>>744586292https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/46221The only shaders I consider essential are soft shadowshttps://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/58181
>>744585616It's genuinely a shame how they botched the Civil War questline, especially considering it's literally THE most debated on situation in all of TES. Todd apparently had much grander plans for it, but time and Creationjank cock-blocked him
>>744585112This is a Morrowind AND TES thread, dumbass.
>>744586335Nah, everyone likes Paarthurnax
>>744584187so trueI'm not even the guy you were replying to lmfao I just wanted to shit on you real quick, especially since you wrote literal slop
Morrowind modlist with nsfw is what the people want. How does your shit takes place in a place like morrowind nad you have more slavery mod on skyrim
>>744587207slavery is for chuds
>>744587207Well the Dunmer canonically view the Khajiit and Argonians as literal animals and particularly hate the latter on the basis that they have "unspeakable foulness in their private and family urges" so sex slavery in Morrowind is probably not lore accurate for anyone except the Telvanni
>>744585616>>744586817Both sides feel meaningless and interchangeable and the game does a very poor job of selling the idea that a war is going on. It's a writing/design problem more than anything. The whole sandboxy type stuff they tried to do where you can lose a battle and different sides swap control of territory sucks and things have to become more generic in order to accommodate it. Todd's grand plan was probably more sytems bs when what was actually needed was more worldbuilding.
>>744586883not really
>>744478546Yes anon, morrowind is ugly as fuck compared to oblivion and skyrim. It is literally retarded to pretend other wise, everything is brown, the models are awful, it looks like shit. If it was remade to look like either of those it would be a massive upgrade.
>>744590924Skywind is aesthetically inferior to Morrowind tho
>>744578468Don't you need to do the main quest to get Wraithguard since you get it during a quest conversation?
I'm glad Province Cyrodiil exists to free us from obl*vion
>>744591329I remember that you can just kill vivec and he will have schematics for it, which you can give to yagrum. funnily enough you will get different version of it to wear on other hand, technically you could have 2 of them
>>744590924morrowind is the best looking TES game thoughit was also remade to look both like oblivion and skyrim, and the result wasnt good
>>744591427just 30 more years to see niben
>>744587240>imbibe fortify speed, strength, endurance potions>can accomplish in a single evening more than 100 slaves in a year>dont need to waste time, effort, space for 100 slaves + handlersSlavery is for people who are shit at everything except brawn and need others to do things for them.
>>744591737It's ok, Sancre Tor is only like a decade away and it will probably be very Nibenese in flavor
>>744590924cringe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyZbK--FCu4
>>744511936>for years I didn't know of the Twin Lamps.I also had no idea I should talk again to liberated slaves.
>>744545135What’s wrong with a comfy European setting instead of le funny giant mushrooms and people living in giant crab shells?
i've never played morrowind without alchemy exploits
>>744591739>wasting alchemical reagents when there are free cats and lizards around doing nothing usefulthat's why you n'wah should go back
>>744596974When did he mention any of that ypu schizo
>>744597104>wasting alchemical reagentsUse them or lose them, they dont have infinite shelf life and cannot be hoarded like you hoard rice and gold, you salt-licking rice-eating fetcher. And you should never talk back to your Telvanni betters, lest you wish to be driven insane or your mouth turn into guar's rear.
>>744596974the fact the comfy european setting is actively erasing a much more interesting setting while also being quite reduntant since they could have just set the game in high rock, the world's designated european fantasy containment zone that just lost its gimmick as a result, instead
>>744550729>t. scandinavianHvis dette var sant, ville du nevnt nasjonaliteten din, ikke regionen.
its not a generic dnd/lotr fantasy world like skyrim and oblivion are. the world feel genuinely alien and weird but still believable and realistic. I think that is the main reason.also oblivion has a boatload of mechanical flaws that morrowind did not. most loot is hand placed in morrowind which makes exploring 10x more fun. in oblivion there were only a handful of dungeons that had anything unique happening in them at all. you were much better off just repeating the same dungeon you know has easy loot than it is to actually explore because all the loot is random. quest rewards are also leveled so you get actively punished for playing the game and leveling up. i genuinely don't understand how the game released so broken, I dont think anyone played it all the way through before it shipped.skyrim fixes a lot of these issues, quest rewards are no longer levelled and leveled dungeon loot is handled a bit better (i.e. tiered npc with set pools of loot instead of random bandits wearing full glass armor). additionally the dungeons have a lot more interesting content in them. despite this the game is just kind of shallow. the quests, particularly the guilds, just feel like short questines than significant content.
>>744476178Morrowind is a magical game and nothing has ever come close to it. Now you understand why so many of us were disappointed with Skyrim.
>official Skyrim lore speaks of Colovia as if it was a culture/nation of its own>Beyond Skyrim is gonna have jungles in eastern Cyrodiil and the Nibenese as a distinct culture despite being otherwise faithful to post-Morrowind lore>even the demaster was forced to recognize Colovia and Nibenay in the character creation mechanic they had to implement to remove gender differencesThe Redguard/Morrowind era of lore won the cultural victory
>>744597767>muh clearly Roman based empire using European architectural styles, weapons/armor and resources like oak should actually be agrarian with a rice based economy in a jungle even tho it wasn’t in Arena because its le wacky unique Nah, fuck that retcon. It doesn’t even make sense from a longitude standpoint if we take climate into account from other provinces like Skyrim.
>>744598475Also if you want jungles, go to Leyawiin
>>744598475>even tho it wasn’t in Arenafucking nothing is in Arena man, Arena "lore" doesnt matter
>>744590924I would rather look at the blocky faces in morrowind than the horror shows in oblivion.
>>744598475In Arena & Daggerfall, Cyrodiil was an empty grassland with a single city in the middle. It wasn't even called Cyrodiil, only "The Imperial Province". The Imperials did not exist yet, neither as a race nor as a culture, and the province as a whole was meant to be inhabited entirely by the eight races that existed at the time and the mixed-race results of their interbreeding. Also, the Roman aesthetic wasn't even a thing yet. I'm telling you this because "it was that way in Arena!" really isn't as good of an argument as you think it is, i don't see you clamoring to have the Imperial race erased from existence because that's how Arena did it. Oblivion's Cyrodiil is not Arena's Cyrodiil, it is a LoTRfied Morrowind Cyrodiil.Also, the same game that made the Imperials a thing and gave them their Roman aesthetic also firmly established that they're not just roman, but a mixture of many cultures, most notably east asian, and that the place did have variety in its biomes, it wasn't just jungle.
straight outta seyda neen
bros, im 40h in on my first playthrough, i have maxed my primary skills and attributes, dont really feel like i can improve a whole lot more, is it a good idea to switch my weapons and armor to level that up as well even though im going to be leveling them much slower? the game was never hard, and since there's no level scaling thought it might make it fun again
>>744598473well oblivion generally says for example in loading screens or rumours that there is colovia and nibenay, just it never exists outside of texts
>>744598475>It doesn’t even make sense from a longitude standpoint if we take climate into account from other provinces like Skyrim.Brother you're talking about a world where the stars & the sun are holes in the sky the continents are actually different points in time and the physical properties of regions are seemingly dictated by which spirits decided to sacrifice themselves at a given place in ancient times, your climatology autism really doesn't apply at all
>>744583815It didn't ruin anything, it improved on it. You're just mad people liked thing you don't like.
>>744598473don't forget that oblivion's most interesting piece of lore, the pelinal and ayleid books, goes out of their way to ignore what the game is actually like and just takes place in jungle cyrodiil instead
>>744599332Improved on it by erasing all culture the Imperials used to have and replacing it with a generic fairy tale story and an incredibly generic setting inhabited by ugly wacky? Yeah nah man, you can like it if you want, but let's not pretend it ain't slop
>>744598675Yet they differentiated between all provinces eg Skyrim wasn’t just a green biome. >>744598898That’s mostly because Imperials were cave dwellers before wewuzzing as Ayleids and adopting elven language and general Aldmeri culture. I don’t see any Asian influences on the Imperials in Morrowind, not from culture like names to race as in slanted eyes. The only confirmation we get is from Kirkbride who wrote theoretical lore but in the end it didn’t make into the final game as in actual designs. LOTR released in 2001 btw, meanwhile nothing in Oblivion actually feels like its got anything to do with LOTR unless you wanna generalize European settings eg grasslands.
>>744599690>That’s mostly because Imperials were cave dwellers before wewuzzing as Ayleids and adopting elven language and general Aldmeri culture. What are you talking about? Are you saying that their inexistence in Arena & Daggerfall was a result of that? Because it wasn't, naturally as none of that lore was even a thing yet back then. Again, the Imperials as a race did not exist until Redguard's Pocket Guide to the Empire, where Cyrodiil was mostly jungle and the Imperial race was divided between two radically different nations. That's their original state. They did not have one in Arena because they didn't even exist yet.>I don’t see any Asian influences on the Imperials in Morrowind,You know all the asian weapons you see in Morrowind? Those are meant to be Imperial in origin. Native Dunmer swords like the Chitin, ebony and glass ones are european-looking and double-edged.The Imperials you actually see in-game in Morrowind are all Colovian yes, but we know the Nibenese still exist since NPCs and books still describe the Imperial City and easterb Cyrodiil as jungle rice farmers with a penchant for wacky cults.
>>744600210Imperials did exist as a race in Arena although not fully fleshed out admittedly but what really was in Arena? It’s a quantity before quality game but even then the imperial city is distinguishable in a Oblivion like architecture, particularly the Arena in Oblivion before said wewuzzing as Ayleids. The only Asian weapons that come to mind are the actual Asian names stuff like Wakizashis, Tantos and Katanas but those are not imperial in origin. The only stuff that looks Asian without being clearly named Asian for the most part is daedric, just like daedric armor. Hell even the imperial shortsword is clearly a gladius. Again weird how the imperials in Morrowind are completely based on the Roman Empire and further European culture sprinkled in, meanwhile the only Colovian stuff we have ingame is a Santa Claus hat.
>>744601334>Imperials did exist as a race in Arena They did not. According to Ted Peterson, he pictured the pre-redguard Imperial Province as being inhabited by the eight races and their mixed race offspring, not any distinct race of its own.>but those are not imperial in origin.They are. The lore behind them is that the Akaviri brought them to Cyrodiil and the Nibenese made them widely distributed across Tamriel, Dai-Katanas were mentioned as a eastern Cyrodiilic cultural export in the Pocket Guide.>Again weird how the imperials in Morrowind are completely based on the Roman Empire and further European culture sprinkled in, meanwhile the only Colovian stuff we have ingame is a Santa Claus hat.Almost everything "Imperial" you see in Morrowind is Colovian. That's who the colovians are, the roman and other european-esque people, as opposed to the more exotic Nibenese.
>>744476178vanilla Morrowind is total dogshitonly Total Overhaul saves itOblivion still remains the best vanilla game Bethesda made
>>744601716So you’re telling me the Imperials made daedric Wakizashis, Katanas and Tantos?
>>744590924>It is literally retarded to pretend other wiseThey were literally all bad looking for their times. Morrowind has the best and most unique artistic direction though, so it has a lasting charm for low-poly graphics.
>>744533971>dat picThey're doing a play from Crassius Curio, right?I regret undressing to him. At least I didn't kiss him.
>>744603406Not impossible, daedric weapons in Morrowind are just ebony weapons enchanted with daedra suffering, after all.>Daedric weapons are made from raw ebony which has been refined using the craft and magical substances of the lesser minions of Oblivion. The process is not a pleasant one for the Daedra involved, and the weapons retain echoes of preternaturally prolonged suffering endured during manufacture. Daedric weapons are the most rare and expensive weapons known in Tamriel.
>>744590924Solstheim in Skyrim looked like shit tho which proves Morrowind's style doesn't translate over
>>744599137Once I stumbled into Creeper & realized he'd buy equipment at full price it was over. Hit trainers like crazy.I'm 23.5 hours into my first playthrough myself and already lvl 25 with 92k, 85 str, all my stats over 60, all my *relevant* skills 50+ & I just spam levitate to soar to every location now lmao shit's got me feeling goated
>>744599332They were literally handed the script for an interesting and complex culture that reflects the complexity of real-world cultures and their histories and just decided to steamroll it bc Todd really liked the LotR films and decided it would be a good idea to make a cheap, bootleg version of them. Cmon bro
>>744541154yep only larpers could disagree
>>744548148>deep lorelol lmao
>>744605858Really? Bc you're larping as a faggot rn
>>744550729Add Valheim and Death in Vinland.
>>744604706yay you found one of the cheat easter eggsor, you know, if you are cheating already, you could have just typed player->AddItem "Gold_001" 99999, there is no need to go to caldera every time. Just a QoL tip for you
I only larp as a f'lah
>>744606653If it's an in-game merchant and one that a quest giver directs you to, it's not really a cheat then, is it?
>>744606346Both post-Skyrim
>>744560269>Which side should I love moreIt's more of a "which side should I hate more".Greedy imperials who want to kill old honorable dragons are abominable, but so are stupid vikings who literally kill each other with their autistic screeching.But the Thalmor autism is on another level and them getting triggered by people praising Tiber Septim is so funny that making a peace deal between empire and nords is the only correct choice so they can keeo kcetching.
>>744574890Tamriel Rebuilt adds the mainland Morrowind.
>>744574890Tamriel Rebuilt, if you like morrowind you are in for a treat it pretty much doubles the amount of content in the game and it is all very very well done and lore accurate
>>744574890There's also Project Tamriel, which includes Project Cyrodiil and Skyrim: Home of the Nords, adding pieces of those provinces. All of these mods work together.
>>744560269>try to kill you for no reason at the beginning of the gameThey have a reason, you're a dirty border hopper and got caught alongside a group of secessionists. The fact that you're not on the list of known rebels doesn't really help your case that much.>clearly a puppet of the Altmer illuminatiIf they were a puppet of the Thalmor then they would have no reason to execute Ulfric. Ulfric is valuable to the elves as long as he lives and they want him to keep fighting as long as possible.>during the main quest, Tullius chimps out and screeches that you're favoring the Stormcloaks if you... say that Ulfric and Tullius should both give up one city apiece in a fair and equal exchange for peaceThey both chimp out depending on who you're favoring and who gets fucked during the negotiations. Congrats for revealing that you never bothered to act differently just to see what would happen.>Like what am I missing hereThe fact that Ulfric is an unlikable retard and people would rather side with their own former executioners over that faggot.The best choice is to avoid that questline entirely.
>>744476178Any fag doing VR run? I am looking at some mod list for my VR run
>>744506274Wonder how many years there will be between TR finishing the minor settlements and lands around Almaexia and the entirely redone Mournhold city integrated with the mainland and no longer in its own pocket dimension
>>744476178Morrowind was such an alien and mysterious place. Then Oblivion came along and turned Cyrodil into a generic LOTR grassland. Imagine if the heartland had never been retconned, here's a strange alien landscape full of weird plants and animals in real life:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4I3yf0hyi24Imagine if any post-Morrowind Bethesda games were even a little alien and weird like that.
>>744499458I wonder if the 2022 Telvanni rework will get a second rework once they remake the Telvanni properly and turn the northern Telvanni peninsula into a desert
which races could be considered property?
>>744615629none
Seeing Skyrim discussion in a mostly Morrowind-focused thread always makes me think of how /v/ and most people in existence tend to treat the Nords as if they were the main protagonists of the Elder Scrolls franchise even though they were basically a joke race until TES V
What are some fun builds for a Morrowind character?
>>744618995Because Talos reigns supreme.
>>744620061But that guy was a sneaky breton who was really good at politics and propaganda not a Nord
>>744476178I would say Morrowind > Oblivion > Skyrim. I started with Morrowind when it came out. Oblivion felt good to me too, but Morrowind had what felt like more freedom to make your character godlike. Skyrim felt like a step down in most ways. Mods were Skyrims saving grace and made it tolerable for me. Base Skyrim just felt fucking bad, especially in terms of the main story.
>>744476178I'm waiting for the official remake. Morrowind is so outdated mechanically that they could make it ultra woke and it still would be a remake instead of a demake.I'm sure it is already being made in secret.
>>744533971Whenever I see woke orcs I cry a little.
>>744621312How are those orcs woke
>>744621781There's no way an orc could afford glass armor.
>>744603829>"daedric" weapons and armor are daedric because they are literally made out of daedra, not because they were made by daedranow that's metal
>>744619208Zero magic:>ArbalistMarksman (Crossbow), Alchemy (Levitate/Waterwalk/Night Eye/Telekinesis), Stealth"The Warrior" birthsign (Orc's racial power is nice)>Ninja Stealth, Marksman (Poison stars), Short-Blade (Cursed poison dagger + Wakizashi)"The Lover" birthsign>Berserker Two-Handed skill of choice, Unarmored, Athletics"The Steed" birthsign>BlademasterShort-Blade (Paralysis), Long-Blade (Katanas), Medium Armor, EnchantingHotkey from paralysis Short-Blade into Dai-Katana for guaranteed hits to preserve charges"The Lady" birthsign>VikingAxe, Block (Charge while blocking), Light Armor "The Thief" birthsign (Block triggers AFTER a hit is successful)Half "caster":>Mystic SpearmanSpear, Enchanting (level by recharging weapon), Mysticism (Soultrap), Light Armor/Unarmored Very Early: On-strike, Bound SpearEarly: On-strike, Bound Spear + Bound ArmorMid: On-strike, Bound Spear + Bound Armor + SummonLate: Rings of Damage strength/agility on target (Spear them from safety once immobile)"The Ritual" birthsign>Spell-blade Destruction (Frost/Fire-bite cover most armored enemies), Long-Blade (Saber for unarmored enemies), Light Armor/Unarmored"The Apprentice" birthsign>TricksterMysticism (Mark/Recall), Restoration (Restore Health), Alteration (Lock), Illusion (Invisibility), Security, Short-Blade+Blessed Touch (unique spell from Ygfa)"The Serpent" birthsign (Breton's resist pairs well even if you have restoration)Any QoL skills for Major/Minor like Mecantile or Athletics are always nice.Builds lean more for roleplay than breaking the game in any way.
>>744621978Since Poison Song is the next update I'm thinking of doing some sort of Indoril themed build. Like an Indoril Ronin or something idk. >major skills Long Blade Medium Armor SpearMarksman Athletics >minor skills Unarmored Mysticism Illusion Alteration Alchemy Something like that. It's always hard to come up with what magic schools to go for if any, since there are so many of them, and they do a lot, especially in Morrowind.
>>744621312TES is really not the franchise for you if you wanna see Orcs be an evil savage villain race because that's how Tolkien did it, Orsimer have been portrayed as secretly being misunderstood "people just like us" since Daggerfall and in Morrowind in particular most Orc NPCs were regular citizens like in that pic or soldiers in service of the Empire who are also the greatest blacksmiths on the continent and have an gender egalitarian society (Skyrim would later retcon this away by portraying them as having a weird animalistic incestuous alpha male harem system but whatever)
>>744622749Skyrim also had Orc armor be ugly and uruk-like instead of pretty and ornate like in Morrowind and Oblivion, and correct if I'm wrong but it was also lower tier than in the previous two games, when it was like mid-game armor.
>>744622749>a weird animalistic incestuous alpha male harem systemTo be fair Orsinium was sacked again so it's a bunch of them living in isolated fortresses. I know ESO isn't liked but their rendition of Orsinium and the whole Trinimac thing ended up really good. It and the Clockwork City are series high points.
>>744503013I just stick to Caius house because it's nice having a roomie, and eventually he just gives you the house anyway and you're already living there.
>>744625421Orsinium in ESO stands out because it's the only ESO plotline that isn't a fucking daedric cult nonsense. I guess the Breton one too but Bretons are boring.
Why is it that I can play Daggerfall for 100+ hours and have fun with it, but with Morrowind, I get so horribly lost that I just wander aimlessly. I don't want to be a brainlet and have questmarkers. I understand how brainlet they are. But at the same time, if you didn't join the boyscouts as a child and learn map reading in the old days, your sense of direction is fucked and you absolutely need a giant arrow telling you were the fuck to go.I say this as someone who goes to the bathroom at an airport on the way to their terminal who then exits and gets turned around.
>>744626719Morrowind has mechanics you really have to interact with. Daggerfall, on the other hand, is closer to Skyrim and Bethesda’s later games, with endless radiant quests and fast travel, and generally requires less thinking and playing. Quest markers are just a small part of what sets these games apart, you could add them to Morrowind and it wouldn't really change much.
>>744573879nta but everything about that incident reads like your high elves just cast some large scale illusion magic."made the moons disappear" my ass.fuck off with your thalmor propaganda.
>>744582009one of the things i find offensive about it too is its design. it is such a painfully generic looking Moba/mobile game character its actually insane dude. just comparing it to the old designs its night and day how much more the old ones ooze genuine mythology
>>744621978>Mystic SpearmanJust finished the game for the first time playing basically this, but without the bound armor. Mostly just speared and clubbed stuff, but I enchanted my armor for magic pew-pews while speeding around with Blinding Speed boots and amulet of levitation. Would have been more fun if I had a better grasp of the enchanting system and how to make the most of the game's spells.
>>744627296Well yeah that Morrowind stuff was made by MK, who actually studied ancient religions in college and shit and thus had a very good grasp of what religions and mythologies are actually like, while Ithelia was likely designed by a bunch of generic digital artists and dime a dozen writers from reddit whose mains references were nu-DnD and World of Warcraft and the like.
What are some good magic schools for a martial mostly non-magic character that aren't Restoration or Alchemy? Mysticism and Illusion?
>>744621090Tbh I'm not sure Morrowind's bizarre alien landscape would translate well to photorealistic graphics. I think the era it came out in suited it perfectly, graphically-speaking.
>>744635808>Niben and Colovia have different political systemsNeat.
>>744582092If Poison Song does end up being as pozzed as the rumors suggest I'll make a patch fixing it. Not sure where to upload it to though.
>>744636782What are the poz rumors?
>>744626719you might be just retarded anon, sorry
>>744637064Apparently they'll be giving Vivec they/them pronouns in all future dialogue, which is strange given how in-game dialogue refers to him with male pronouns exclusively. Some people are talking about a trans character. And there's a lesbian married couple in that Bal Foyen quest.Aside from that last thing, all of this is just talk, I didn't open the dev build in the construction kit yet to check, and I'd rather not make any judgments until I see the final release.
