Quasimorph 1.0 just dropped after a few years in Early Access>Roguelike [not roguelite]>Extraction mechanics>AnCap Space Dystopia with a Dimensional Invaders Apocalypse modifier>You command a PMC that uses cloned soldiers and complete contracts for pay, choosing allegiances among various corporations and organization.Discuss it. Ask for tips. Whine about bad luck.
>>744483272>Whine about bad luck.What bad luck? I sent a guy to stab another guy and both guys died but in the end I got paid.
>>744483606If you complete the objective and your operative dies afterwards, do you get the reward?
I've been doing every mission so far with Francis, despite unlocking multiple new clones, should I start leveling up some of the alternatives as well in case he dies? They respawn right, so im not sure what the benefit is to the other clones.
>>744483742They've got different general stats as well as two unique talents. For example Percy has +12 to all damage resists and he does more damage the heavier his load is. Isabella is immune to infections, Maximilian doesn't feel pain, etc.
>>744483272Is this actually good or is it one of those times you guys recommend me a game and it sucks ass. It being a roguelike is making extra skeptical.
idk how to progress the second story questevery time i bring my best gear i get one shot anyway
>>744483905Doesn't that quest have some insane power concentration, like 15k or something? It's probably meant to be endgame.
>>744483983Meant for >>744483983
>>744483905It's not a roguelike in the traditional sense. It's an extraction game. There's no permadeath. Roguelike aspect comes from the procedurally generated dungeons and turn-based combat.Just pirate it if you're not sure.
>>744484043idk what power concentration is. Is that the same as difficulty?the first story quest had 5 skulls but was also very easy. They really need to explain difficulties better because sometimes 1 skull missions are too hard and 5 skull missions are too easy.
>>744484452Ignore skulls, power concentration is how many resources the enemy has to work with. Skulls do apply a multiplier to it, but it's already taken into account in the number you end up seeing.
I forgot melee has a viable range attackJust throw the damn knife and watch whatever get hit die.
>>744484095It does have permadeath if you don't tamper with the settings. On normal mode when clones die they lose everything. It's just layered against a meta progression which eventually escapes you as enemies get powerful over time. >>744483905It's a lot of fun and you'll be able to see if you like it at all within the first 2 hours for refund imo.
oh sweet jesus, i think i just came
>>744484976Unfortunately that alone is not a valid reason to evac (it should be)
Best way to make melee work? Ive been trying out the shadow nigga class and while its very powerful the moment I stab one guy everyone else turns around and nearly kills me
>Open door>Three bad guys on other side>Inmediately get ventilatedThis is the third time. Is there something I'm missing, like a sound to give them away?
>>744485310Camping corners.>>744485523If you sneak you can see where nearby enemies are through walls. But also, just make sure you don't open a door with 1ap left while walking. If you have two you can at least shut it or step aside and lure enemies in (or just evade them entirely since they might not immediately notice you)
>>744483697Yes, unless the mission demands retrieving an item
What a fucking haul. I just need to repair this buffalo pack. Goddamn fucking mercs.
>>744485787naisui actually didn't know that
Do you rush for your elevator/objective or are you autistic like me and sweep through the entire floor before moving on(even though you have to leave scores of good item behind because you can't carry them)
>>744483272UI is a mess and there's no default loadout button (which would help for scrub missions). I shan't be buying until some QoL comes in.
>>744484621That's the C.O.B.R.A. class's gimmick and Kenzie has +2 throw range
>>744483272I hate the barter system. It just makes winning a mission very unsatisfying as you have to do all this random bullshit to get items instead of just beinf able to buy them with cash.
started hunting barons with the dozens of mines and a few turrets that realware + dilthy have been giving me.
>>744487064are you still on Mars? You don't really have the opportunity to roam around forever on most planets, quasimorphosis is going to rape you.
>Whine about bad luckIs there any reason to whine?The most recent version of the game I played, it was greatly dumbed down in terms of difficulty from the original. Literally didn't die once while completing everything there was to do in the game at the time.
>>744487398Yeah, I guess I should get the training wheels off then huh
>>744487143New to me. I'm from the days packrat was the meta.
>>744487398Unless you run a zen build with the merc with -1 qmeter, industrial head for a 2nd -1 and optionally watching ancap TikTok nonstop for another -1.
>>744483272My only complaint with the game is the space travel mechanic. Though I haven't played 1.0 yet, so maybe they have made it easier to achieve the...certain thing, that lets you travel much faster, so reaching the outer planets doesn't potentially fuck your game up
I don't quite understand the wound system. You get a wound of some kind, it gives you a debuff based on body part(like head cause you to puke etc). It heals on its own, but it also heals if you treat it? Im assuming that just makes it heal faster, but do you need the right item to treat it with? Seems like you can treat any wound with a rag if you want to.
Shaping up nicely>>744487648There's a teleportation upgrade. Don't worry about it.
>>744488640Only minor wounds heal on their own. Major ones need to be stabilized and have a growing chance to heal the more you do. Rags work on lacerations and piercing wounds. Plastic on blunt wounds. You need other stuff for poison, infection, burns, and electrical damage.
>>744488803I think you can treat any wound with any treatment that stabilizes it, but it has a base chance of like 5% to work.
>tfw you didn't detect that one last guy and lost a fuck ton of loot and your kitted clonegoddammit
>>744489856Do a naked Isabella run to blow off steam
>>744489945and now she's dead too
is there a way to see all the available missions on a planet or do I just have to click through all the factions. also how do I stop wandering all over the fucking place making rape monsters spawn out of everything before finding the stairs also how do I get higher tech gear from factions
>>744490053>how do I stop wandering all over the fucking place making rape monsters spawn out of everythindrugs
>>744483272>roguelike>Complete corporate contracts, and you keep everything you managed to extract, making your PMC stronger with every successful mission.>Die, and you lose everything you brought with you.>But you can always print a new mercenary and try the contract again. not a roguelike
>>744490053You can turn off free mercenary printing in the difficulty settings
>>744490052But at least you only lost a knife
>>744490404oops >>744490327
>>744490053>is there a way to see all the available missions on a planetOn the space travel screen I'm pretty sure you can see all the missions on every planet you click on.
>>744490516yeah I saw that like five seconds after making the post (I'm retarded)
>>744490327You can't actually retry the contract unless it's a story mission. And every run is still randomized.
okay, toxic shotgun is fucking op>>744490446i put a fighter pack on her so no
>see merc chip in SBN station>trade all my shit for it, even have to by good from the church to sell to SBN to make up for their ridiculous tariffs>buy chip >look in>francis reid-dalyfuck you too I suppose
>>744490780>i put a fighter pack on her
guys im scared
>>744490945Total twitter death
>>744491090Don't worry about it
>>744491092isn't that pisscord?
>>744490949i wanted to carry loot okay
>>7444911254 cloth and a crafting station you dingus
>>744491121I was referring to SBN
you've gotta be fucking kiddingwe've come all this way, across hundreds of fucking bodies, and your dumbass is going to die from an infection?at least you're carrying a buffalo pack for me to loot
They refuse to move and they're blocking the only way...
>>744491759click on them, they'll move away.
Holy shit, generating missions is OP
i remember being able to exchange these for some good shiti know they're useful, but i don't like using turrets
>Lost my best dude to a barron with all my good shit >Missions are now too hardis it back to Mars for me or is my game fucked?
>>744492663as long as you have isabella, it's never really over
>>744483905I played it a lot 2 years ago. Its pretty fun, but can also be very annoying at times. You can spend 2 hours in a mission going through 4 floors looking for the target, taking down grunts who have 9mm pistols and nail guns. Then you turn a corner, get caught by the boss, and get 1 shot by his assault rifle with piercing ammo because a stray bullet hit your head. Since I played, I hear they added safe pockets and return capsules, but I never felt like trying again.
>>744492810How so?
>>744492940>Eclipse Blades>Insurance Box Combat Knife>Immune to infection so she can just eat everybody she killsYou just corner cheese people and scam good loot. It's strong and once enemies get away from you in terms of power and tech, she can scam you back into the power curve.
Graaahhhhhh this fucking chemical burn keeps tickling me for one damage but it ruins my movement all over the place
>>744493115Go find a corpse and disassemble all the clothes. You should always be fully dissassembling any loot you don't want to take as it is. Every bit of clothing should be rags for you to tie onto your chem burns to stabilize them
>>744492940Because the entire character is centred around being a scavenger, and performs extremely well going into missions with just a knife.
>>744483272>Discuss it>pixelslop>roguelikeslopSlop
>>744484095>It's not a roguelike in the traditional sense. It's an extraction game.It keeps getting worse.
>Bled out with one step to goRIP my lil nigga.
>>744493335Then don't play it faggot. Bye now!
>>744493482he still finished the jobhe still did it'_'7
>>744493482
>>744484095Okay so it's still a roguelite.Fucking christ once again OP is a faggot and so are the rest of you retards.
Does this game have a campaign with an ending like Darkest Dungeon?
>>744493942Some faction has different storylines.
>>744493861for what it's worth it's closer to a proper roguelike gameplay-wise than just about any other roguelite
This is as much of a roguelike as Elin is, which is to say, kinda.
Its so gay they removed the free prologue demo from steam store and put it in the paid for supporter pack. Now you just get cock teased at the start of the game saying you did a mission where you unleashed the aztech demons but don't let you play through that. It could have been reworked into a tutorial mission. Anyone know where I can get Quasimorph End of a Dream now that its removed from steam?
>>744494117Cool I'm sure you're very proud of that fact, it's still not a fucking roguelike.
>>744493482dying like that has never happened to me in a video game ever but if it did I would stop playing and uninstall immediately
>>744494456Wrong. You can just disable the respawn mechanics. Fuck off now please.
Humanity stands
>>744494117Jupiter Hell was a roguelikeThis is just autism
...okay
Gotta stop them from ballooning somehow
>>744494935They're just disposable meat.
Your skin suits me just fine
Have fun, Isabella.
goddammit
>>744496591welp
>>744492515they are useful for deconstucting and getting the Beast
anyone reach an ending yet? can you continue playing after getting an ending or is it an actual end?
>>744497206it happened on a conquest mission at the start of floor 1he made to the end of floor 3RIP
>pile of remains spawns when you kill too many people in a doorway>have to shoot or hit it to break before you can get throughdid they add this mechanic just to fuck with melee characters? never seen it in other roguelikes
god, i need to jerk off
>>744492898The worst is when some random mook with a cutter manages to get off a lucky shot that decapitates you
So the 4 factions with main quest are ancom, aliens, pirates and conode dudes?
>>744501739Just ran a quick elim against tjanming, and one of them had a disc pistol, which was very spooky.
>>744485523manage your AP
>>744501803you can sell the data to realware
>>744485523Never open a door with your last action point.Enemies only spot you if you end your turn in their line of sight.You can very safely just open a door, examine everything in the room, then close the door so long as you do it with a fresh turn.
>>744485523>open door>throw incendiary>close door>wait 10 turns or so for nature to take its course
>stop Ritual in timeokay let's explore this map>ritual was not stopped in timealt+f4 that asapi'm not doing timed shit with this kind of gameplay lmaoalso UI is oddly clunky as fuck who designed this can't split the stack unless i right click and select splitbut i can press control and hover over an item to transfer itcannot shift click to instantly equip stuff but i can click on it and press shift+e to do itwhoever was in charge should unironically kill themselves
Is it even possible to sneak melee/ranged? It seems that almost every weapon or attack just draws in the whole map.
>>744503660Yeah.Noise radius is pretty small unless you're using explosives.Just be aware that enemies patrol. I almost had a bad time earlier when I was hauling all my shit back to the elevator to extract and a couple of guys with storm TTs had patrolled into the elevator room.
>>744483272This game is so sick
This game... open door with 2 AP, burst fire into the enemy, he takes 40% of his hp in damage, doesn't matter, its his turn now, he just gets 3 turns of shooting into me thanks to pain triggering once and just kills me.FFFFFF even with the best gear I could find he fucking 1 turn killed me thanks to a single low roll. Was my only option really just to sprint and hope the RNG is in my favor and I don't miss? This is RNG or RNG pick your poison at times.
>>744504631Well, you can't open doors while sprinting.So what you would have to do is open the door, go in to cover and end your turn, then next turn toggle to run, leave cover, shoot, go back into cover. Repeat until he dies.You really want weapons with laser sights when you do this so that you ignore the miss chance from running.Or just throw a knife at them.
>>744504705That's the thing, I wrongly assumed a full auto burst from a smg or ar at 5 tile distance would do the job. Man, I really don't see how I could not have gotten absolutely fucked there.
>start game with custiom normal difficulty (random gear, random classes, random operatives, no easier missions)>somehow my backpacks are bigger than normal>realize that couple hours in>can't change it mid playthroughwhat the fucknow i gotta restart? fuck me
>>744503585you can ctrl click retard
>>7445047655 is past the edge of most weapons optimal ranges so you don't just have increased miss chance, you have damage dropoff.Throwing the basic knife is one of the most op things you can do here because it has almost 100% hit chance and auto crits if the target isn't fighting you.I think I almost oneshot the colnode at the end of the tutorial mission because I critted his torso, he had enough time to throw a gas nade then died from wounds.
1.0 is great, where should i go after mars ? i'm scared of Venus.
>>744493115every failed heal attempt adds a stacking 5% chance to heal on the next attempt.
>>744485523Retard proof solution for doors: Just shoot them open.Once you get high tier weapons you'll start doing the same for walls. My Percy mostly walks in a "straight line" towards the objective as I blast every obstacle in my path. As retarded as it may seem, it's also fairly safe, by the way.
So uuhhWhat is going on with human parts and meatWhat do I do with them
>>744505136hoard rotten meat (and fresh meat, it'll turn into rotten meat eventually) for antibiotics, which you can then turn into medkits.
>>744505136Let the meat spoil in your ship's inventory and the make antibiotics from the spoiled meat. You need antibiotics for first aid kits (it's splint + bandage + antibiotics).
>>744502948how do you do this in one turn
>>744505136If I'm playing as isabella on mars I tend to just eat it all.Bones make useful amputation tools and surprisingly effective weapons when thrown.Lets you preserve some knife durability.You can eat human meat as other clones, it just requires some fuel barrel tricks to get around the infection chance. Canning it also gets around the qmeter problem.
>>744504938>you can ctrl click tell me how am i supposed to ctrl click something if the moment i hover over an item with ctrl down it transfers that item to the other container?
Did they manage to fix the death spiral where if you lose a bunch of missions, the enemy factions are too geared for you to ever get back from your failures as they now drastically outgear you and all your pmcs start with shit skills? Seems like the implants just make this worse now.
>>744505136you eat them
>>744483272>>Roguelike [not roguelite]You don't even know what these words mean, clearly.
>>744503585You want your scanners upgraded for ritual so you don't need to explore. or the q item that map reveals.
>>744505309ohsorry I misread your post
>>744504631Opening doors is a suggestion. If it lets you fight with good cover blast it open, blast a wall open, or lure them to open the door with noise.
>>744505428I was in a good spot behind a corner, 1 v 1 situation, he just hit twice got a pain trigger, then hit again. And I died.
>>744505312You just go in with a naked Izzie and knife someone for their armor and gun. There now you are back in power.
>>744505678Did your shots just go wild and miss if the damage prediction said you'd get a kill?
>>744505709What if... You don't have a knife and you can't make one either?
>>744505806if you are that early in the game you might as well just restart
>>744505836Wrong! You engage missions until enemy blasts your limbs off and you get a bone shiv.
>>744505806Do control missions and mug the station defense.
>>744504631Protip: sneak outside the door, this'll highlight any enemies near the door>switch to walk, make sure you've got 2 AP, open door (preferably standing adjacent to it if you can like you would if you were breaching a door IRL)>open door, use remaining AP to move back into cover if you had to stand in front of the door to open it>switch to sprint and move in to clear or play peekaboo using the walls as cover
Just noticed they added 2 new hybrid damages. cold/beam cryolaser and shock/beam ion. So poison is the only type with no hybrid.
Best early game implant?
is there a reason to keep the hands and feet you get from butchering corpses?
>>744507129I think you can replace your limbs with them if you lose yours. They also serve as a makeshift weapon.
>start with random gear>skip tutorial>end up with no weapon and armor just random garbage in cargoW O W
>hexarch I'm favoring attacks minor corpo I'm favoringPls. no bulli.
Who do i give the secret data as a newb?
Pro tip: if you call a capsule you can see where it landed on the map
Does class modification lets you cram more perks/abilities into "new superclass", or it's just mixing and matching perks from other classes?
>>744507751ANCOM, RealWare and Tezctlan are the main ones to give them to. Those three are ones that also have quest lines you can do after giving the data to them. Personally I like RealWare because they give the Buffalo backpack.
>>744483272>>Roguelike [not roguelite]dropped
shame the sex bramfatura didnt invade.....it must exist
>vodka is made by mixing water with fecesWhat did they mean by this?
>>744507751realware is the chad optionancom gives you a stupidly difficult mission earlytezclan can go fuck himself
>>744507998>he doesn't know
>>744508042>What did they mean by this?You can make alcohol from almost everything.
>last sucessful escort had defib on him and good gear to protect him with>new escort has dogshit armor and a melee weapon but has military goods i can take off himlooks like im gonna let him die and loot what i can
>>744508087i want succubi, not cenobites
>>744508131I guess...
>>744508137Let him die, loot him, defib him, complete the mission
>>744508042You make food from plastic that leaves plastic behind so who was food?
>>744508258do not worry about it
>>744508137tell escort to not follow and lock him in a room. Wipe the place. Pick up escort.
>>744483272how true is this?>Combat honestly sucks. 90% of the game seems to revolve around just peaking around corners by always saving 1AP so you can jump back if there's something there. Your spacebar key will get worn out by skipping turns so often because the core gameplay and AP system are so primitive that they're simultaneously tedious (move, skip turn, move, skip turn) and offer no skill expression. There are no real hard choices you need to make to effect the best outcome, just need to make sure you keep doing the tedious skip turn and peak dance and other such things because if you forget you might turn a corner and get 1-shot by 3 guys around the corner. That's not strategy. There's no thought in it. It's just pure busywork and that's the core of the gameplay.
>>744508075>>744507939ty, i will give it to realware then
>>744508146They feed on your suffering and pain, you won't be getting anything less then cenobites.
Some absolute fucking bullshit has cost me some milkruns. I don't know whether to start sprinting all the time or not.>>744508553wow, imagine actually having to think and manage your actions wisely
>>744508553Putting the cart before the horse. Strategy in this game is focused on budgeting vs time keeping against risk. In other words, how to be a merchant 101. Until you leave the starter zone the time attack nature of the game doesn't even reveal itself.
>>744508553>how trueIt's true in a sense that he chose that particular play-style and stubbornly held on to it.Now this is why multiple difficulties suck dick, because without knowing what difficulty he plays on it's hard to comment with anything substantial.Lets just say, that it's easy to make early game tedious for yourself. Regardless, the meta progression will let you field operators with gazillion health that can tear enemies apart with bare hands, so you will eventually make any build you can imagine work.
>>744508553VERY skill issue, but I appreciate that when you load into the game you pretty much have to just take isabella and conquer mars until the game gives you some better ways to express yourself.But that shouldn't take very long.
>>744508257>>744508318managed to pick up some loot for him and my robot and they somehow did not get shot once (shot my ass a bunch of times though)
Is there a mod to get an implant hotbar? It's a pain to use active implants in the current interface.
>custom difficulty>faction growth 25%now i can play
>>744509562>It's a pain to use [insert thing] in the current interfacethis basically describes my experience with this game
>>744509860>>744509330>>744508257>>744508257Yeah I wish the UI and item management was more fluid. Like I want to reload a shotgun with a different ammo. I can't really do it in the UI. I have to equip it first. And it just feels so bulky. Like things don't snap to the grid if you know what I mean.
>>744505289Switch into sprint mode. It lets you do 3 actions per turn
There's a lotta newbies in here so as an old hand, I'll give you some tips:>Always take Sorbents into missions, they're free to craft and cure infections, poisoning, and alcholism>rags craft into bandages, plastic crafts into splints, moldy meat (human meat turns into it after being left for a while) crafts into antibiotics, so by hoarding those 3 things you can craft a fuckton of medkits>Every class should have either combat focus + assault reflex OR bodybuilder + death over chains (makes it much easier to not die)>Get repair kits early for the best earlygame ship upgrades, then prioritize ship items>Armour kinda sucks until very late in the game when you can craft good armor yourself, you should still use it but dodging is better in the midgame once you get dodge builds onlineAnyway have fun kids.
>>744510206except open door and close door. unless you use that 1 merc that can interact while running.
>>744510216Thank you wise sage
>>744510216Pretty sure repair kits aren't upgrade materials any more.
I have the shittiest fucking luck. Finding all the rare ship upgrade parts and making it to the last level to get instantly fucking downed by some faggot with an otherwise useless gun.
>start using Percy >Early game so most wounds don't require medicating>Don't think about the fact I mislicked and I'm going up against the energy company>Half dead into an easy mission>Realise I have medical supplies in backpack>Apply super special lotion for the the extra butthurtIt does have some depth to it, but the UI really cripples it. Do they have trading improvements on the roadmap so it can highlight what's tradeable?Also what types of stations drop prototypes?
there is not enough inventory space in this fucking game mani want to bring everything with me but i can't and the game throws at me hundreds itemsi don't even care if it's valuable or not i just don't wanna leave it behind
Tried a melee run for the first time, I fucked up on floor 4 against the target.
>>744510653thats how the extraction type of game works anon
>>744510653>i don't even care if it's valuable or not i just don't wanna leave it behindthat's not how the game works
what are the most important ship upgrades?
>>744510613I think the next thing on the roadmap is a bestiary which might just list where to find stuff since that and enemy damage/resistances is what everyone struggles with.Hopefully they choose to do some ui stuff too.
>>744510737weapon upgrades are busted
>>744510613I just press the move tradables button then manually remove items I want to keep(quick transfer Ctrl makes it bearable)
>>744510653Custom settingsMax backpack sizeMax item stackingMinimum weight to calorie consumptionPlay it your way
>>744510653This game really is the kryptonite of loot goblins
>>744510790They cost product chips to do though
>>744510613Remember you can go to the commodities market and find the producer stations for a valuable so you can buy that 1 missing upgrade part.
>>744510915it feels more like crack
>>744510781You can right click to find the resistances. I'll be fucked if I know what any of those hieroglyphics mean. Plus the piercing damage either has two different icons or there's some damage type I'm missing because there's a line through a circle and a line through a crystal looking thing. >>744510801Oh neat, for some reason I never thought to check what the other blue arrow does. They really need tooltips.
Is it valid to play all factions?Or are you supposed to focus on a few ones?
>>744510985Yeah but the information isn't accessible to you unless you write it down.You shouldn't have to refer to an external resource to know that most quasis are highly resistant to blunt, making 9mm quite bad against them.
>>744510985 There are hybrid damages that use the weaker resist of the pairExplosion-blunt/piercePlasma-cut/fireentropy-fire/coldIon-shock/beamcryolaser-cold/beam
>>744511259It doesn't matter much early but as tech levels rise factions gate their higher tech with high relations. So eventually you pick sides to get awarded the nice faction gears.
>>744511703Thank man.In that case I'll support the underdogs to get faction power up and pick sides later.
>>744510653Use the custom difficulty settings when starting a new game. No shame in bumping up the backpack sizes and stack sizes. Its your game man.
>>744511259The only thing you lose by accepting just about any mission against anyone is trade and trade discounts. It's valid to fight against anyone and it's a good way of keeping everyone's tech level in check as someone with a high tech level is more likely to "win" a contract when it expires and create a snowball effect.
>>744511259Some quests require specific reputation, other than that it doesn't matter beyond early game. You are essentially war profiteer, so you are supposed to do missions for all the factions without letting one get too ahead. By the way... Since rep has a cap, you can pick a sacrificial lamb or two to flood rep i"economy", so technically you can make everyone love you. Just be careful not to exterminate those who you grind off completely.
>>744484095It literally is a roguelike in a traditional sense:>simultaneous turn-based>grid map layout>heavy use of procgenThat's all a traditional roguelike needs.>b-buh it has le metaprogression!?Does not matter.
>>744510737The monitoring, scanner, and management ship upgrades are pretty great. Monitoring lets you spawn missions, scanner scans floors and management lets you take over a minor faction and that gives a lot of good perks.
>>744511874>Just be careful not to exterminate those who you grind off completely.What happens then? They dissapear? Or they just get so weak that they will have no chance of coming back?>>744511875Fuck off retard.
>>744511989>Fuck off retard.You first.
>>744512028Why would I?
How do you throw melee weapons? I'm dumb
>>744512075Because you're wrong + dumb + stupid + retarded.
>>744511259i think its recommended to turn faction destruction off so you dont lose out on factions if you dont actively stop big ones from stomping on them
>>744512126Shift and left click the target.
>>744494456>TOME is not a roguelikeMuh permadeath retards are so fucking tiresome
>>744512130Breh, you're the one pretending to be an authority on traditional roguelikes despite obviously not knowing a single thing about then and probably not having played one.
>>744512126Shift click, also works for shooting the grenade launcher into an empty space
>>744511989Damn, guess we need a new term for something like rogue but not a clone. Rogue-like?
>>744512163>>744512220Oh, thanks. I thought that might result in me just stabbing the air, so I didn't try.
>be me>giga cloned mega soldier of hell>walk 10 meters, blast 3 fools with my shotty, blast another 2 fools with my trusty handgun>suddenly>insane pain in my abdomen>a growling from hell>"FUCK I NEEEED FOOOOOOOOOOD">greedily devour 8 burgers, 2 pseudomeat sticks, 8 pieces of plastic and 1 human arm>"puh this will hold a while">check out the next room>pain starts again>die from starvationshit game by a shit death, no wonder it flopped
>>744512245Or just call it a singleplayer turn-based extraction shooter with a M&B like simulated world.There's really not much roguelike in there.
>>744511989You can exterminate any faction completely. To be fair, I don't know if they changed anything in v1.0, since you could brick quests before by doing so.Given that you need to complete a quest in order to unlock "warp drive" maybe they retard-proofed it. Or maybe not.
>>744512301As much as I like the game I find the fact that your wounds don't scab and you bleed forever to a paper cut to be a bit silly.
>>744511989default is a faction can be exterminated if they lose all their holdings. there's a custom option to disable it. Note that unchained belt can award pirated hexarch blueprints at tech 10 so it's losing minor corps that might be an issue.
>>744483272Hey hey people
>>744512367Small cuts heal on their own
>>744512364>>744512412Damn, maybe I should turn faction destruction off for now.Unless they devs planned around the faction bloat naturally becoming less.
>>744512196Played a whole lot of them, it's my most played genre by far. I have 500 hours in cogmind and ~1k in tome4 on steam, and god knows how many in dcss. That's why I'm adamant in my stance."It haz got to not have le metaprogression!!" and "it le needs le permadeath!!" retards (hint: that's you) are just posers regurgitating dumb opinions (yes, """berlin interpretation""" is one of such opinions).
>>744511703>First time playing>Sided with a construction company at first>Meant to take over the company>The mission spawned across the solar system>Time out before I get there>Can no longer take them over as they're sitting on tens of thousands of power, far above everyone else>Lose relation with them to capture the literal weakest chemtech company>Get absolutely fucked over by the same ones I brought to power in the first place ever afterThat was months ago and I should really just have restarted. At least it was nice getting medbay and cybernetics upgrade parts for free before I gave up.
>>744510691i don't remember duckov being such a pita tho
>>744512725>it's doesn't need to have it's defining characteristics!Okay, it's a MOBA then.It's not multiplayer, but as you say, it doesn't need it's defining characteristics.Most people play it on Steam so it's online.And it's definitely a battle arena.Problem solved, it's a MOBA :)
How the fuck do i make stealth work?Giving the chip to ancom gave me the gear and a stealth class but only having 1 AP really hurt
>>744512725What's the meta progression in Quasimorph?You're in the same playthrough as stuff unlocks. Not unlike leveling up a single dude to get new powers in any other game. You just get to try again.
>>744485024Evac does nothing but fail the mission though?
>>744512934You switch to walking or running when you need to cover distance, never stick to just one stance
>>744512939The ship upgrades.
>>744512934Enemies only detect you if you end your turn in their line of sight.Walk just allows you to detect enemies through walls.You should be swapping between walk run and sprint frequently as the situation demands.
>>744513058Oh shit those carry over?
>>744508553>Your spacebar key will get worn out by skipping turns so oftenClearly whichever faggot wrote that hasn't done any missions involving quasimorphs. You don't exactly have a whole lot of time to dilly dally and play peekaboo nonstop unless you're absolutely sure you're ready to take on a baron.
is there an easier way to tell what things are used for ship upgrades?
>>744513082I think anon means they carry over between missions, but not playthroughs
>>744513253If they have an x/y below the price, then they're a ship upgrade material.
>>744513273oh shit I see it now thanks
>>744512913>>it's doesn't need to have it's defining characteristics!It does. The characteristics are outlined here >>744511875"Permadeath" and "no metaprogression" are not required for a roguelike, because they don't have immediate effect on the gameplay feel. You can tack those onto every genre.You can do a though experiment (you're a dumb retard, but I believe you can do it!):Say a roguelike has permadeath toggle before you start the game (like ToME4, which is undeniably a roguelike): you think you selected permadeath before starting a run, but you actually missclicked and picked softcore option that gives you extra lives. How does your game change? Does it magically become "not roguelike?" It doesn't. The option has no effect on how it's played, until you eventually die and realize that you had extra lives on.Take other genres: 1st person shooter - you take out the shooting and it's immediately obvious that it's no longer a shooter; take out 1st person and it's also immediately obvious.You take permadeath out of your asinine roguelike definition and there are no apparent changes in the gameplay.Same goes for meta progression (which ToME4 also has btw and yet it is considered a "real" roguelike by pretty much everyone nontheless).>>744512939>What's the meta progression in Quasimorph?Ship upgrades and everything that comes with them.
hey hey people XD
I'm sorry what? Am I supposed to do this way later or something?
>>744513329
>>744513329If you take first person out of a first person shooter you still have a shooter. Stay out of school tomorrow, kid.
>>744513329Only limiting the genre to 2-3 characteristics is the reason why retarded normalfags (like you) made the genre label worthless.Because these days everything from an FPS to a platformer can be a "roguelike".Yes, quasimorph has the similar moment to moment gameplay inside missions as a lot of roguelikes, but it isn't one due to everything else going on.
>>744513472Yes.
>>744513495Yeah but it's not an fps anymore now is it?
>>744513503Do you think ToME is a roguelike?
>>744513329>>744513503Also from what I remember meta progression in ToME are sidegrades and just different ways to play, not inherently making the characters powerful (although I guess they still do due to synergy).
>>744513329>No metaprogression doesn't have an immediate effect on the gameplay feelAnon, what drew me to roguelikes in the first place decades ago. Was the fact they were happy to slap you in the face and say here you go. A couple dozen races, classes, gods, star signs, you name it. Have fun.The modern way of approaching meta progression actively limits the experimenting and fun you're allowed to engage with. In favour of reducing complexity, analysis paralysis and just easing retards in. I don't want to have just warrior and thief for the first x hours. Until I've beaten some arbitrary objective before unlocking the mage or whatever. Then repeat for however many unlocks there are.Quasimorph thankfully doesn't feel that way. It feels like a natural progression within the same campaign as the entire world evolves. More akin to say Mount and Blade with the warring factions and power dynamics shifting.Even if you do have to find the new classes inside said campaign.
>>744513495It's no longer a 1st person shooter, retard. The genre is called FPS for a reason.>>744513503>Only limiting the genre to 2-3 characteristics is the reason why retarded normalfags (like you) made the genre label worthless.It's the other way around, actually. Retards like yourself who think "permadeath" is a staple of a roguelike are the reason people started calling everything with permadeath a roguelike.My criteria:>simultaneous turn-based>grid map layout>heavy use of procgendefine the genre perfectly.
>>744513546Yes and even /rlg/ agrees.Even though it's a less traditional one.
>>744513601That's a decent start and captures roguelikes in spirit for the most part.But that would also encompass "roguelike-adjecent" games and not just traditional roguelikes.
>>744513623I mean I don't get how you would consider ToME a roguelike but not Quasimorph. It plays fast and loose with the genre "rules" to almost the same degree.
>>744513503Rogue doesn't have anything distinct besides 3-4 characteristics. Neither do the other games whose names became synonymous with a genre label. That is how they became genre labels in the first place.
>>744513712"Traditional roguelike" only became a thing because people have started calling everything with permadeath a roguelike. It's just roguelike. "Traditional" is extra useless cruft that retards came up with during the 90s or whatever the fuck. Berlin interpretation is a joke because it doesn't define a genre, it defines a spectrum. Nobody should take it seriously.
>>744485523this is such a fucking retarded faggot design decision. just fucking reset the ap if the door is opened at 1/2 1/3 ap and there no enemies targeting you actively.the game did not fucking evolve in the way devs wanted it to, 90% of the time its a casual grind with very little thought.its like they took a fucking swat4 mechanic and added it to q3.
>>744512349Bro Quasimorph is one of the closest modern games to Rogue next to Dungeons of Dredmor
>>744512557>maybe I should turn faction destruction off for nowSince you are aware of it now, I doubt you'll get screwed over by it.
Got absolutely destroyed in Mercury :)
>>744513774The whole space travel and m&b like simulated solar system? Which makes the gameplay modal.And that you don't have this overaching campaign that takes but just a bunch of missions?That there is little exploration and discovery from what I can see?
>>744513964"One of" is doing a lot of heavy lifting in that statement. I consider it a roguelike, but it's definitely more towards the edge of the genre.
>>744514021It could still be possible for one factions to lose a bunch of assets simultaniously while you are at the other side of the universe.
>>744513601Yeah but you still have no class>Simultaneous turn basedKek what? Rogue was not "simultaneous"
>>744513472if you have cargo space you can do some sacrificial farming and bank the elite gear from floor 1 enemies then die.
Why type of gear should I bring for a 4800 power conc. 5-skull mission? It's the civil resistance story mission.
>>744514149>Kek what? Rogue was not "simultaneous"
>>744513527Yes and Quasimorph isnt Rogue its LIKE Rogue
Since Quasimorph has meta-progression (Your ship and its upgrades) it is ROGUE-LITE.
Tianming or Daydream Chem?I have a hefty decision to make
>>744514606Roguelites are games with roguelike elements but not turn based. Roguelikes are games that play LIKE Rogue.
>>744514669Daydream Chems have poison and cold weaponry. Tianming has custom sawblade launchers.
>>744514805Out of loyalty, I decided to side with Tianming. Daydream is also fighting Ancom, and they produce far better guns.
Goddamn, the SR-78 is a sniper rifle doubling as an AR
>>744507101Is that even good? I barely ever regen up slowly, but if I get crit its over.
>difficulty normal>tutorial off>2x item stack>faction destruction off
>>744515393collimator is love, collimator is life
How do I throw shit like knives and hatchets? Does it have to be a special version of the weapon?
>>744515548shift click and it throws it up to 4 range(unless you have modifiers)it uses up 5 durability per throw though
Found this bad boy from presumably Planetbridge's station defense. Lightning minigun go brrr. It's a t5 weapon when their current tech is t3 so there's a chance for higher tech to just show up?
Normal orUnfair?or are you Easy pleb?
>>744516029Custom. Mostly all normal defaults but more backpack space and stacks. Also repair at mission end to reduce busy work.
>>744515428>Is that even good?No idea, but I haven't died on normal yet and I'm 15 hours in. It saved me when I first encountered and got fucked over by radiation and poison.
>mission going ez as fuck >get pspspsps >about to leave >turn corner and see 15 niggers with laser rifles I've never seen before >kill one and steal it>it's actually a rape rifle managed to get out with all this shit while slowly dying of rad poisoning I keep reminding myself to never leave without rad meds and then keep dying to radiation but not today baby
>>744516443well done anon
>control mission>protection objective is "outdoors">see it from a completely different room>wave starts and I'm nowhere close to blocking the waveI see they haven't fixed this yet.
>>744516029Normal for now, when I start a new campaign I'm slowing down faction progression though
does selling tech chips let factions use those items? Like in starsector where selling a paragon blueprint to pirates will basically end the game?
>not able to increase stack size after game start>nor backpack sizeWHO DESIGNED THIS SHIT
>>744516845>not able to increase stack size after game startThere's an operator that gets +4 to all stacks (even turrets).
>>744516845That is the case in every single game with customizable difficulty options I've played.
started a new save now that I think I understand the basics of this game a little better. How hard is this bitch? Should I give it a try when there's no more missions in this place or come back later?What planet should I go after this? Closest one so I don't waste much time?Maybe I don't understand the basics yet as I thought I did...
>>744483272>yet another quirky chungus cyberpunk tranny reddit-like indie game
>>744516918Quite hard but it's doable because you're up against civil resistance fucking shits
>>744483272i have a sex bot with me, can i give her/him/it loot?
>>744516918I found it really easy
>>744516994Idk loot but you can probably give them a gun.I saw someone tame a dog, give it a gun, and then the dog shot him in the back.
>>744516918Fairly easy, but the follow up mission can be a trap.
>>744516897nah, ive definitely played a couple exceptions at least, though i admit i dont remember them. ai can probably answer easily.
>>744516918You get warned that there's a death squad guarding the elevator so use the stairs. Or fight the death squad if you feel like it.
the ship upgrade giving you an infinite dataminer up to 3 floors is insanebetter than getting the dataminer blueprint in ea before the ship upgrades were added in
>>744517320dataminer is an anti-jammer now. the map reveal is a q-item eye of karrosh i think.
eggheads accidently unleashed demonic hordes on reality.Said forces are incompatible with humans and will enslave and destroy humanity if they win.Retard PMC CEO-man, who unwittingly helped to unleash said forces. "yeah, i can work with them, what can worse happen?"game is cool, but setting is just retarded
>>744517463For real though, why does the Emerald Emperor favor CEO man over the eggheads? Everyone else just goes, "thanks now your reward is endless pain."
If you skip the tutorial do you just not get the secret data?
>>744517647no you always get it
what upgrades for the Magnum are more important and should be prioritized?
>>744517647you do
>>744517647You miss out on grabbing the turret. Which you own.Don't think about it too much.
>>744517463Budy, the guy who invented leaded gasoline drank that shit to prove it wasn't poisonous knowing that it was indeed very poisonous. Humans are just retarded.
>>744517721you get the turret if you skip the tutorial
>>744517696>>744517707Oh, you're right. I didn't think to check if it was already in my inventory, I just saw that you don't get the revenge mission.
>>744508131I thought fermenting shit made jenkim thoughI actually unironically think that'd be a perfect fit for an ingame drug. The ingame universe seems bleak enough that I could see characters trying to get an easy high by huffing fermented poop.
>>744517320did they improve the tedium of looking up the next ship upgrade item any in 1.0?that system was an abhorrent ungodly clusterfuck of a mistake from day 0.
>>744513574There are very clear upgrades in tome4 metaprogression, e.g. the ability to automatically sell accumulated loot before leaving the floor, instead of hauling to the nearest city vendor (the game has weight system so you can't take everything).
Its over.
>>744517912I could win that
>>744517705The ones that let's you summon drop pods for stashing stuff and the upgrade that gives your shuttles an inventory space for the same reason.Aside from the obvious blueprints and upgrade materials you can never send enough crap back to the ship. Unused guns and ammo can always be broken down for parts and you want to butcher and send back as much meat as you can to make antibiotics and then first aid kits.
>>744517912Should have brought some actual firepower so you could just tear through all those enemies with a single burst
>>744483272>Roguelikeno it isn't
>>744517596because the PMC guy helped him out and he thinks its funnyits mostly just amusement to the emerald emperor because he knows the PMC cant actually stop him
>no backpack blueprints>no good armour blueprints>at least get sr 6-7 rifle blueprints>keep buying more blueprints>a few of my bestest guys get shredded>it's unironically over because there's always that one laser guy who one or two shots me even at 800 power projection missionsOk well never mind.
>>744517705Cloning so you can mod out crappy perks and increase clone hp.Proxy faction also goes kinda crazy.
>>744516845that's why you start with x4 from the start
if you don't have food/meds/a gun equipped this button needs to give you a giant red "are you sure" prompt this is the third time I've clicked by accident
What do you use for control wise?I'd rather go full keyboard, but looting and stuff is done by the mouse which is awkward.
>>744517043my sexbot was great, killed and tanked bunch of demonsanother bot took her from me too soon
>>744518257I prefer my roguelikes keyboard-only, but this game clearly was made with mouse in mind. Keyboard-only feels super awkward here (+ no vim-like keys by default, iirc).
How do I parse the difficulty / power concentration values?I have no idea which missions are hard and which ones aren't.
I won! Whacked the first guy. Fortunately, he was wearing good armor so I looted it, helped me survived the gauntlet + the ambush.
>>744518257Yeah they just really missed some staples in the roguelike control scheme.
>>744518363<1k power per floor = easy.1.5+ power per flood = hard-ish.But ultimately - you don't. 800 power concentration can still spawn a rapebot with machine gun that will shred you in 1 turn.
>do the revenge mission>get near the elevator while sneaking>yapper on my ship starts talking>somehow i continue to act during this?>dude walks out of the elevator room and sets me on fireok cool
Do you always carry a knife with you to extract bionics and such?Seems a bit inconvenient due to inventory constraints and no idea if the early bionics are worth it.
>>744518568always. it's good for early game medkit crafting and if you're a cannibal
>get buffalo pack>still not enough space
defebnse missions are the only ones i can do right now :V
How do you extract bionics out of limbs? If I cut them off, they seem to just disappear
Time for my first escort mission
>>744519296i guess it's luck based?
t-thanks...
>>744519296It's chance based, sometimes you get the bionic, sometimes you get spare parts and sometimes you get nothing.
>>744519296its luck based just as normal amputation, sometimes you get something, sometimes you get parts or nothingremeber to amputate hands and feet before legs and arms
>>744519492They really want you to use that axe, huh?
>>744518410if things go moderately well in a decade you will be able to make an old boy like short video of that for a buck via a hacky agi.
>>744519296There are implants that increase like hood of... extracting implants. :D
Which baron is easiest to kill and get pact from?
>>744518568the glass shiv is 1 slot unlike other knoifes.Or just punch the bones out of the enemy and butcher with bones.I believe late game you have to make a customized gun that chops limbs to swipe quasimorph parts.
>>744519296chance based. There's a merc with implant extraction boost and the aug department also gives a boost.
>Tried the sawblade thrower>This RULES>Fire point blank at an enemy who ambushes me>Bounces off the wall behind him comes back and cuts my foot offYEOOOOOOOWWWCH!!
>>744516918it really was very easy. killed the operators in the elevator, took the stairs, kileld everything, even got some better weapons and armor than what I had going inis the shown difficulty just a trick to scare and filter out retards like me?
>>744519565To be fair I did cleave my way through that mission with an axe
>>744519561>the devil back
>>744519814If i recall the moon/duggur baron is a slow lump of HP(unless 1.0 changed it). It's the ranged fuckers with super nails and the turbo wheelchair that would fuck you up.
>>744520017Sort of yes actually. The actual difficulty of the mission is based on the enemy tech level and power concentration. And power concentration is divided by floors, so in the case of that mission each floor has 3600/3=1200 power concentration, which is a fair amount early on, but you're also dealing with a shitter faction at tech level 1 which makes it easier to deal with.
>>744508553If you want a game that has combat like this, but its more fun, try Jupiter HellQuasimorph is better in all other ways (skills, upgrades, perks, non-combat stuff, etc) but Jupiter Hell has amazing combat. Like a Roguelike (and actual Roguelike) DOOM.
>>744520157
It doesn't really matter but if I play on custom (normal) with a few things tweaked am I disqualifying myself from achievements?
>>744520192I play both.Although I've put my JHC progress on hold to play more quasimorph.
>>744520192What about DoomRL
>>744520275It's made by the same guy.
>>744520306Oh, cool.I wish it wasn't 3d
>>744520334https://store.steampowered.com/app/3126530/Jupiter_Hell_Classic/
>>744520392Oh shit
>>744520392So what's the difference/reason for Jupiter Hell and Jupiter Hell Classic?
>>744520573see >>744520334
>>744520573JHC is JH backported to doomrl using doomrl rules/engine but JH enemies and weapons.Like you don't have to do The Wall in JHC.It's less feature complete than JH and it's missing mechanics like pain and "momentum" affecting dodge.
>>744494456>top down turn based tile based rpg with simultaneous turns>not a roguelikeretarded ape
>>744508146succubi are cenobitesstop watching anime
>>744520997>>top down turn based tile based rpg with simultaneous turnsThat doesn't automatically mean it's a roguelike just like having first person shooting doesn't automatically mean the game is a doomclone/retro shooter
>>744483272Caveat emptor: game has massive scaling problems as you pass time, gain gear and level up, where most enemies in a level become extremely easy, except for a few which become demigods which literally kill you in one turnYou will turn a corner and instantly die, and this has been a problem for a long time
whats a good backup gun weapon while playing eclipse blade? I've been trying to melee only with percy but some of these maps just suck when you cant door camp. Ive tried buckshot and slug shotguns but no accuracy boost hampers it.
>>744483272I haven't played this game in maybe 2 years, there's so many changes like how weapons are practically free now and all kinds of weird non-medical items can heal injuriesNoticed "backup guns" give like +8% crit chance on other weapons, so you basically always should be wielding one?
>>744521273Shotguns are good for that sorry to bring you down bigdog
>>744521273You start the game with a hydra 24 and it's ideal.
>>744520997Can you explain what you mean by simultaneous turns? Do you mean faction-based initiative?
>>744521273laser sight guns sets accuracy to 95% but no crits while in the effective range Alternatively a marksman rifle like the bishop that lets you pick off a troublesome enemy at high range.
This game is only fum for the first 20 in-game hours, after that the power concentration balloons out of control, making every mission an actual waste of resources just to die
>>744521546when you take an action, the enemies take an action at the same time. depending on the mechanics, when you take an action the enemies take two or more actions or viceversa. that's how ToME works.>>744521194it does. that's what a roguelike is. a turn based tile based rpg game with simultaneous turns. I've described several things here, not just ONE like "first person shooter"
>>744517912Two or three shotty blasts would take care of that.
Too much loot, not enough space
Why are the voice lines so weird?
Is Stoneshard any good? I see they're being sold together.
I have never seen my escape capsule after summoning it so far
>>744522919there's a blip on the map where your capsule spawned. maybe it's in an unexplored section of the map?
>>744522895It is, but it's far from finished. I'd hold off at least until the next update which is supposed to add stealth.
>>744522919it appears on the mini-map as like a blue triangle.
>>744522084But enemies don't do anything until you're out of AP. In rogue enemies act after you've acted.
>>744520105>moon/duggur baronShit, that was close. o_O
Any beginner advice? Is it possible to completely fuck a run?
>>744523304Stay inside the core worlds until you're strong. Flying to Saturn will take WEEKS and the enemy corps will grow stronger the whole way
>>744522585>condition>7/15Bruh just let it go.jpgAlso eat that single morphine and drop the spare bag
>>744522084>simultaneous turnsThe turns are not simultaneous, they are sequential.Toribash is an example of a game with simultaneous turns.
>1 skull mission disrupt ritual>fine one of the guys>oberliterates me behind cover from 10 tiles awayYeah, okay.
I got my ass kicked but I think I will enjoy this game so I'll keep it and not refund it. I got Underrail "Depot A" vibes from the assreamings so far.
>>744523615skull levels are length/total # of enemies of the mission. Higher skull = more enemies and or more floorsPower level is what you want to look at. Power level dictates the points that they can use for purchasing enemies. So in a low skull high power mission you will be fighting a lower number of highly geared enemies. ritual missions also ALWAYS have a high-level quasi demon guarding the objective regardless of the skull/power level.
>>744523538Already dead anyway. These heavy SMGs are deadly.
huuuh victoria is about to get raped :V
>save scummingy/n?
Who are the minor factions you can capture and control? I don’t see anything on the faction screen differentiating what’s a minor or major faction
>>744522895It is. Development isn't the fastest but it is steady.>>744523235Even being far from finished the game has improved a lot. I think I started playing in 0.6 and the game has changed so much already
>>744524260how?also no why the fuck would i play extract shooter and savescum?i say this as a notorious save scummer in games
Is transplanting that shit worth it?
>>744524272any faction that is a minor corp is available for being your proxy. The main hexarchy are not available.
>>744524272
>>744524681>>744524272whoops meant to say there's an icon you can mouse over on the faction screen for minor factions it looks like a building, for hexarchs it's an eye of providence
just reloaded my pre 1.0 save. I know they changed the cost for upgrading weapons/cloning but did they refund the items? My percy has 0 upgrades right now
>>744524441the game saves when you take an elevator
>>744524471Terror pack has a perk that lets you take some of the enemy scaling from the Q-meter for yourself. That's going to accelerate your qmeter gain so might as well benefit too.
I think this game would work much better if the metagame was similar but it's xcom-like 4 niggers in a box. Seems like it would make balancing easier and would stop the end of early game stomping you get.
>open door crouched>56 enemies in the room>press left click so instead of closing the door I move forward>get instagibbedthis has happened three times, on the same main mission nowI just left click on the side of the tile where the door is instinctively
Where can I get a phase bomb? It's the last part I need for the teleportation ugprade.
>>744526023You have to do story quest related to mars until they give you the blueprint.
>>744526364I skipped the tutorial and see no story mission on mars. Am I supposed to accept the pact with the Venus Baron?
>Do EZ early defense mission>Rewarded with Fighter Backpack item chip
>nicotine addiction isn't a drug addiction
>>744521451I mean you might wanna bring two hard hitting weapons with you
Do I pick a handful of corps to make stronk or do I try to keep the ones ahead in check?Also I think I actually fucked my save, took my sweet time, I probably should restart.
>>744523304Worst that can happen on normal difficulty is all the corps getting really strong before you do, but even then the rewards will also scale with them so you can just keep throwing clones with shit equipment at them until one gets lucky and succeeds
So I played a little bit but decided to restart. Do you guys play with increased backpack size on difficulty? I find the amount of stuff you need to bring back and the lack of space to be somewhat frustrating, but you are supposed to get upgrades to call down item pods and stuff so maybe I just needs to git gud
>Do a super hard elimination>It's an endless parade of hardcore guys with amazing gear>At some point the target dies>I'm too busy fighting for it to matter>total fucking bloodbath, quasimorphs popping up all over>Absolutely nail it, no huge mistakes>Loot like ONE body before a huge new wave arrives>Escape at the last second with a Buffalo Bag full of top lootGod bless the Heretic Shotgun. Just gotta reload it often.
>>744524272What do you get from controlling a faction anyway? Ordering them to do missions so they can take over stations?
>>744525873Had the same problem for a while
>>744528787A lot of people find the inventory space frustrating but I don't mind. I like having to make difficult choices as to what to bring back
is this the guy the game spawns if you take too long to do a mission?
faction desturction on or off?
does the game now have a way to bookmark items so they are highlighted when I find them? or do I still have to use good ol' pen and paper to make a "shopping list"?
>>744529041I think thats a special quasimorph type that is exclusive to some zones like the moon, it litteraly looks like a wheelchair
>>744529436Ship upgrade materials have an x/y under the price. For everything else you're on your own
show bags containing bags
last fucking time i go into a mission with full skulls and like three thousand powerfour fucking levels filled with a hundred goddamn goons each running towards you at the hint of a fart, jesus christ
>>744529041Is this one of those guys? I don't remember. If it's one of those, then no, it's just a quasimorph, aka demons from the otherworld that break free when the level of carnage reaches a certain point. The counter shows it in the bottom right corner of the screen when it reaches 1000 you face the boss. Each bramfatura has its own set of enemies and habitat, but some areas simply have nothing.
Now that's some good shit.
>>744529787I didn't know the game was actually 3d models with a filter, from the top down perspective it looks pretty good. I was telling myself it must've been a big amount of work making sprites for each armor and weapon model but turns out this simplifies things a lot.
>>744483272Is there some kind of main plot or endgame now? I tried to enjoy the game twice, but I just feel like I'm aimlessly doing quests and I don't get much enjoyment out of it>Enter room>Clean room>Repeat>Evacuate
>escort mission>encounter two flamethrower turrets behind glass>think they can't hurt me from there>they just fire right through itman, fuck that shit, I am outa here
>>744531074There are now several quest lines. They also added upgrades for armor, weapons, clones, and pacts.
>>744531074The 1.0 release post said there's mutiple endings
I'm confused. Do the class upgrades add perks or switch them out?
Where should I look to understand the true difficulty of the mission?
>>744529041It's a moon quasimorph with wheels and lots of ap
>>744531549power concentration and number of floors
Do the quasimorph weapon not have some sor of reliable repair mechanisms?Can you only repair them with the durability loss materials?
>>744531549The faction and the factions tech level.Also the bramfatura you're in and the power concentration.
>>744531549power concentrationdifference between a guard of normal corpos and an army of highly armed mercs all bugging toward you when you fire a bullet
>>744531629Nah, insulating tape and knifesmith or whatever work just as well. My cleaving axe throw remains forever by my side
>>744531618>>744531634>>744531659Does “power concentration” refer to the concentration of the enemy's forces?
>>744531723more or less
>>744531723Yeah. It's shorthand for how many dudes are in the area, which raises the chance of overpowered guys being there and the chance you max out the qmeter trying to kill them all.
>game is actually 3d with a filter instead of 2d pixel artwtf i feel cheated
>>744531634Where do I see this and the how do I know which one is dangerous?
>>744531629>>744531719Nevermind. Apparently the kits don't work. I do remember tape working just fine for some reason. Those repair crystals that also increase maximum condition are great.
>>744531723If you imagine the enemy army working on a point buy system, power concentration is how many points they have to spend on their units.
>all the civil resistance missions are titled after KMFDM songsbased
>>744531629I typically repair them a few times using quasi materials because they only reduce the durability by like 5, and then I repair them using something that restores max condition like what >>744532083 mentioned
>>744532013Stock market and look at their tech.The elites can have stuff a few tech levels over the current level.
who should I give my secret data to?
Uhh...
>>744532571Chadware
>>744483272>>Roguelike [not roguelite]
i almost came>>744532610yeah, that took me out of it too
>>744532689Didn't take me out of it, I just wonder what the industrial application of gooning is
Is melee viable long-term?
>>744532817Early and mid game yes, late game I think you need a dodgemaxxed build to make it viable
>>744532571Realware>Full set of "Bloodbath" armor which is SUPER good>Buffalo Bag>Doomguy supershotgunThey're great.
>>744526601you need to piss of tzeclan and then xiomara will hit you up and ask you to go to venus and reach 1000 qmorphosis to summon a baron. that starts her quest line
This is new. I guess he's your goto for mercury, venus, and the moon
The electromagnetic weapons don't use ammo, right?
>>744533789unless you rush qmorph areas really early the best strategy is usually emrbace and push the meter hard. typically qmorph demons are less threatening than mercs. Depending on where you are too they usually have more exploitable weaknesses than mercs as well. Usually a better idea to run up the meter so that the humans die and the ones that are left over spend time fighting the qmorphs and dying as well. Saves you ammo, meds, and durability. Unless something has changed in 1.0
>>744533962No, but they're a pain in the ass to maintain, like all tech weapons.
>>744533759So I have to accept the pact then
>percy>eclipse blade>full bloodbath pattern armor>hawk axe>heretic shotgun>buffalo backpackOh yeah, it's early game time
>>744534259yes you can get items eventually that break pacts. they are pretty plentiful, look like an ancient text
>>744534289is percy still the goat
>>744534676Ye.12 damage resist across the board and bonus 12% melee damage per 10kg carried
i swear to fucking godevery fucking time it's this one little thing that somehow fucking kills megoddamn fucking fire out of literal fucking nowhere what the fuck
>>744534849always carry water or a juicebox with you. always.
Are automatic pistols considered pistols?
Phoenix brigade Percy was the funnest shit i've had in this game.
>>744483272>died and lost my best Civil Resistance armor>died and lost my other best Civil Resistance armor>died and lost my best AnCap armor>died and lost my Glory setok, i have nothing remaining now. Feeling dejected.
>send in heavily equipped operative>forgot to pack meds and food>ohfuckfuckfuck>immediately come across a bunch of medical cabinets with basic medical equipment>find a campfire next floor>oh but my axe will wear out if I chop up bodies>there's a repair station right next to the fireRNGesus blessed me this run
>>744535109>isabella>eclipse blade>knifeAll you need to bounce back
>>744535109pay more attention to the difficulty of missions, make sure you aren't opening doors with 0 ap left, always sneak before entering a room to see how many enemies are there. You can adjust the diff to not lose any gear/clone/etc on death. You are probably playing too aggressively and/or choosing missions you are not geared enough for.
>>744535240yeah. a bit too aggressive. But the game is also bullshit sadly, I had forgotten.last mission i opened a door and a point blank turret shot me.
>>744532872>Dodgemaxxed>In a lootcel gameThe devs have some issues.
What mods are you guys running? Haven't played in a couple of updates so I'm disabling everything to see what I really need.
>>744534993Yes
>>744535716None for now
>hey bro you use mines? no? ok have 8 bye
since neutrality doesn't seem to be a viable option in the long run, how many corpos (and which) do you help to get access to a well-rounded arsenal and defenses?My venture into midgame ended as soon as I found myself totally unprepared to exotic damage types that melted my uberarmored gigaguy in a turn.
>>744536097The idea of getting paid like this is funny when you think about it. It’s fine when you’re working for the military or scientists or something, but one of these corporations literally pays you with burgers lol. These days you also get credits but before trade update that was literally your entire reward.
>>744532083>Those repair crystalsSince there's a freezer ship upgrade they don't spoil anymore either.
what's the knife-buttnaked merc? percy?
>>744536305Saint Peter, don't you call me 'cause I can't goI owe my soul to the company store
>>744536471Isabella or Hannah Reich
>>744536097I really like mines if I'm going to fight barons, lots of free damage and 6 only takes up 2 spaces.
BAKE FRESH BREAD
For the second Realware mission do you need to do an espionage mission on behalf of ancom or against them?
Very important question before thread dies. When your operator informs you there's loot to take, is it marked anywhere or in a particular room?
>>744536579Can you step on them yourself?
>>744536838have a screenshot?usually she tries to keep you mission-oriented; "yeah, loot if you must, but don't forget why we're here"
>>744536097they're worth a lot of explosive that you can turn into nades.
>>744536731In behalf. Since you're giving a compromised unit(from other corpo) to ancom so realware can hack them.
>>744537053i had to finish the mission before i could properly explore the level since enemies were gatheringsomething abut them shipping stuff out
>>744537395You might have triggered a random event of "floor has supplies of thing" seen it for ammo, packaged robots, and food. The opposite can also happen as in "floor's shelves will have no food".
>sniper misses 3 91% chance to hit shots in a row
Somebody please make a thread.
>>744532610Proof of sexual desire but it looks like a slime person so it winds up being strange.
post yfw the thunderstorm touches your pinky toe
