This update SUCKS
the game kept getting worse and worse with each update since 2024idk why people still play this shit
>>744487169it was always going to take a while for things to settle after a rank reset
>>744487169qrd
Do we think they will any more giant mechanical shake ups before the game goes open beta maybe this year. The urn and rift shit seems very disliked.
>>744487169Does deadlock have drops and a community market?
Bro when are the new heroes
>>744487169This game SUCKS
>>744487609September 19thOr maybe at the end of the ranked season
>>744487536You now need 15 wins in standard games with a hero to pick it in rakedYou need this for at least 3 heroes to queue ranked in the first placeThis makes onetricks very mad
Mina's thighsParadox's tight pants emphasizing her thighs
>>744488127you also need to win 50 standard games toothose who really want to smurf will eventually end up paying third worlders to grind up accounts for them but this kills like 99% of smurfs in the long term and 100% of them in the short term
>>744487169>need 15 wins on 3 characters, 45 wins total>assuming a 50% winrate (the average), that's roughly 90 hours of playtime before you're allowed to play ranked>90 hours, in the unranked mode where people play like retards and abandon at the drop of a hatI get MOBAs and in particular Icefrog-made MOBAs are sweaty as fuck but this is retarded. It also punishes people who like to play a wide variety of heroes, it incentivizes "maining".The previous system was better. All the worst changes to Deadlock are a result of Valve listening to the whiners in the community. Deadlock players are super whiny compared to other games, especially the "pro players"/streamers.
>>744488420Even the top players right now like deathy are getting actual shitters that have always existed in oracle and eternus ranks ruining his matches so the climb back to where he was originally is not much better.
Glad I got to experience Deadlock before they opened the floodgates to thirdie subhumans and content creator scum. Everything turned to total shit, as expected.
>>744488420Hard disagree. New system keeps smurfs away. If you were playing the game before and played a wide variety of characters, you should be able to play ranked no problem.
>>744487575>The urn and rift shit seems very disliked.No they arent lmao
Im gonna say itThe game has too many mechanics and valve should try to make a Monday Night Combat style game rather than just throwing dota 2 into a blender with other questionable gameplay. The guns especially dont feel good to use and i think its intended at this point since they even downplay gun damage over spirit damage.
>>744487169Eh it's okay.This is just a meme update to keep the sweattards satisfied.The real kino is coming at the end of August.
>>744488594>thirdie subhumansEU servers have always been full of Russians and NA servers have always been filled with Hispanics>and content creator scum.This new update exposes 90% of them as frauds though because you can only duo in ranked and with somebody who has a similar rank to you, so good luck getting back to Eternus if you got boosted there by a 6 stack
I haven't played in a month or two but I just tried a street brawl and the game still feels very stompy. This is probably a problem inherent to the genre but it's absolutely miserable and I don't really see a reason to queue again.
>>744487169It seems weird that I have to do chores on two heroes I have no intention of playing in order to play the game exactly the same way I was playing it one patch ago.
>>744488785You don't need a 90 fucking hour playtime requirement to filter out smurfs, that's the worst argument for this system possible.>If you were playing the game before and played a wide variety of characters, you should be able to play ranked no problemIt's the exact opposite, if you play a wide variety of characters this system punishes you. It forces you to focus on 3 specific characters rather than the whole roster.
>>744487292fpbpyou fags are 2 years too late
There was no fucking update, what did we get? New fucking ranked icons? No new heros/items/reworks/mechanics/game modes, not a fucking thing not even a sizeable balance chage like even dota 2 got7 months of nothing games dead
>>744489294The game mechanics are not designed around Street Brawl, there's like 6 different AOE slop heroes that ruin the match if they're picked.
>>744488950NTA but I barely pay attention and even I saw nothing but people complain about it.
>>744488992God, I miss Super Monday Night Combat.
>>744489506You're thinking about the burgerboxing when Yoshit fucked with the urn too much.Now we're in arguably the best state of objectives. Probably just need one more to round the match out.
>>744489445what do you mean? pretty sure you had to select at least 3 heroes before this patch, you were not guaranteed priority
>>744489294street brawl isn't the real game and you shouldn't pick a lot of heroes for it so yeah, it's stompyI also prefer it and had originally thought that's what deadlock was going to be, a mashup of Dota and CS rounds.
>>744489568Yeah, exactly. I'm going to pick the same three heroes with the same priority, the only difference is now I have to spend some time in the short term racking up wins on heroes I have no intention of developing further.
Genuinely confused: It feels like anyone that actually wants to play ranked should already be qualified. It retroactively checks for character plays and wins, right?Am I understanding correctly that there at ranked sweats playing the game in its current playtest way without 15 wins on 3 different characters?
>>744488294Im already throw ready on 3 accounts.
>>744489791Onetricks exist in every character-based pvp game
So the game is gonna get even worse or stay about the same if they stop being a private beta
>>744489791see >>744489568literally impossible unless they are very new
The requirements to play ranked are a nothingburger. I'm a shitter who's been playing on and off again since 2024 and I have like a dozen characters I can play ranked with. My matches have been way less fun since the update though. It put me in a way lower rank than I was in before and everyone is getting way more upset when they lose.
Risk of Deadlock is gonna hit like crack so hard brehs.
>>744489294Street brawl as a gamemode just doesn't work. They need to make it max 3v3 or juat create a new map for it
>>744490016>Hopoo sells risk of rain to gearbox and says he didnt like working on 3D games >Goes to valve to make another 3D RoR
>>744490016Why is that faggot Apollo the ranked icon. I miss when Abrams and Haze were the game's mascots.
This game is only fun when they're adding six heroes to it, they should be doing that every week.
>>744489294>>744490102you guys are fags ive exclusively played nothing but brawl for months and its still fun
>>744490250When they randomly added viscous and the game turned into chaos that was one of the best times to play. They should add a new hero randomly constantly and not care if everybody queues for them.
This game looked good ..3 years ago. Seems like they've thrown way too many ingredients in the gumbo.
>Think that with this being a shooter that I can escape the support mindset>End up picking Rem and Dynamo constantly to keep team mates alive and be a "OK, I'LL FUCKING SAVE THIS TEAM FIGHT" machineGuess the support life is for me, surprisingly I don't pick Medic in TF2 though.
>>744488992As a previously addicted dotard I fully agree. There's so much going on that just isn't fun. I don't mean there's too much to track, I mean there are a lot of unfun mechanics that hurt the game but are there for "complexity"
>>744490647Healbot is the copout role for people who aren't good at the game. It's easier than actually having to aim and do damage and position yourself properly. It also gives you the moral high ground to shit talk your team without ever having to put yourself in a position where you're the one to make a game ruining mistake. The most toxic players are always Ivy and Rem.
>>744491009If it was just heal botting that's one thing, but I always makes sure I am doing utility stuff as well (Curse, disarming hex etc.). I don't know, I just a more fun time making someone's life miserable by not letting them do anything at all or turning a bad team fight around with a good ult much more fun than trying to be Haze.
>>744487169The update literally saved the game because it keeps smurfs, one tricks (useless turds) and Russoids with chat restrictions out of Ranked. Seethe all you want, Seeker-kun
I notice a lack of waifuposting itt
>Play street brawl>Get enhanced Shrink Ray>On RemI know this will never happen, because of items like Shrink Ray and Seraphim Wings, but the idea of legendary items making their way to the main game mode would be funny.
>>744491339The only way I could see it work is if they add another map objective that temporarily gives one player a legendary
>>744490016are they actually working on a pve mode? Thats just what deadlock needs.
I stopped playing a year ago when they started catering to troons.What did this update do?
>>744491404YesRisk of Rain style, seemingly
>>744487609after the item update which will be within this monthso probably september, eight fucking months since the last one
instead of making a risk of rain clone they should make a singleplayer myst-like puzzle game set in the city because that would make me happy
The entire melee/parry system is retarded and always felt like shit, it needs a total rework or get removed entirely but then theyd be concerned about heroes like abrahms or billy being even more stompy.
>>744491404They didnt hire the risk of rain devs for nothing
>>744491816Seeker GAWD...
>>744491339For me, it's enhanced Colossus on rem
>>744488127what happens if a new character comes out? no one can play it in ranked without at least 15 hours of gameplay? and then you have to compete with picking that character with tens of thousands of other people. seems retarded and confirms valve still doesn't know wtf they're doing.
only faggot smurfs and team boosters are in shambles over this updatehuge W for everyone else
>>744491981>no one can play it in ranked without at least 15 hours of gameplay?How can you view this as anything but a positive? I understand that at your pisslow rank first timing heroes works just fine but in any skill level higher than Brick your lane is an auto lose and you're essentially being disrespectful to your 5 teammates, selfish prick
>>744487169I'm on a 7 win streak, I dunno what you're talking about. This update is GREAT.
>>744487169It is proven time and time again that the worst audience you can have is sweaty tryhards nolifers. They have absolutely insane and unhinged demands and will send parcels with dead rats and excrements to your public mailbox if you removed 2 HP points from their goonerbait waifus. This is why all most successful online games are focused and balanced around casuals.I really like deadlock visually, but unfortunately, the game is already filled with mentally ill (like actually medically mentally ill) tryhard trannies before it is even released officially.
>>744492282They literally just made an unranked mode and are making a casual PvE mode what more could you want casual scrub
>>744487169This piece of shit malware game triggered a permanent coil whine in my GPU.Not even Cyberpunk max settings gave me trouble before
>>744491981I personally dont want anyone on my team playing characters with less than 15 hours.
>>744492234Yeah sure making ranked players piss around in casual for hours and hours every time a new character releases is a great solution!
>>744490141because apollo is a snooty faggot and canonically nobody likes him. yes, this intentional.
>>744492632>implying new characters will even be available in ranked day 1
>>744492632What's the problem with that? They're going to play to win since they need their wins.
>>744490140The difference is, this time they got the blank check for it.
MINA HAAAAAAAAAA
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhOdfYCYijoPost YFW the Deadlock leitmotif
>>744492632>NOOO I CAN'T TRY OUT A CHARACTER FOR THE FIRST TIME IN RANKED!!!!
Why the fuck has this game been in beta for so long? How is anyone expected to play or give a fuck about it?
>>744493879This is Kelly Bailey, isn't it?
>>744488992Monday Night Combat (not Super) was so good man
>>744487169>This game SUCKS
risk of rain 2 sucked, just because it's going to be deadlock themed doesn't mean they can make it good.
Yo, where the Artifact dude at?
Honestly my games have been way better since they made it so fewers shitters can play rankedStill get some bad russian filled stomps but for the most part, good comms and teamwork and more balanced matches
>>744494579>screen full of adhd nonsense How do people play trash like this?
Why does it feel like itemizing is somehow worse than League's? I get the 4.8k spike and all but it feels like you just build the counter-counter items every time.
I have played Source games since something like 2004 and I have never understood strafe jumping until last week.
>>744494370Deadlock already has more fun characters, movement and abilities than risk of rain thoughbeitPut that in the samr format and its kino
>>744494737same way they do any other modern game.
>>744491436>>744491870I mean, I believe hotpoo has worked on characters as well, he's not there to dev the pve, but I imagine he's leading the charge on it partially, as well as developing character kitsIirc victor and cali are his handiwork?Cant believe a /v/igger and posting on 4chan can lead you to working at valve
>>744489506there's a vocal minority but most people actively playing like the state of the rift/urnit gives people a reason to fight, works for comebacks, can be used to end faster in stomps and isn't worth more than a walker like the old urn was
>>744488992Maybe they could just make two modes, like pro and casual? What would casual be, just no items, no jungle, no urn? Just push lanes?
>>744494737They play the game and develop an understanding for what's going on.
>>744487169Just like 10 updates before lol
>>744490016ROR is overrated
Rift/Urn combo is so much better than straight urn, they could not figure out how to make the comeback actually worth a damn and to make it a risk/reward for walkers.
>>744495901urn was just a shit mechanic to contestthe fact it needed to be picked up and then carried over so people could run it around weirdly and teams being behind grabbing it meant they had to fight 5v6 isn't really an advantage, it was such a messthe biggest issue with it was that there wasn't a time limit on picking it up, so the enemy team could just control the area until they were ready to try to run the urn if they were ahead and set the stage and you just had to fight them and win, which is fine if either team was a little behind, but in games where someone is actually behind and urn is meant to be a comeback it was uselessRift is a lot better for thaturn being a side objective for some souls, being less value, and how its setup now, is a lot betterI really don't understand people who don't like rift
>>744487169I love this update
>>744495901New urn is better.Rift is still slop though.
>>744496108Rift takes long enough if the enemy team is ahead or has a better aoe comp that you can give it up and take a walker.
I'm actually surprised /v/ hates this game so much, I love it. Such a good blend of so many different genres. The open endedness of it is very fun>>744494737thats whats so entertaining about it desu, 6v6 team fights in the late game are so ridiculous with the visual and sound effects
the creature amuses me
>>744495235>hotpoo has worked on charactersHe designed vyper and sinclair
>>744491816>abrahms or billy being even more stompyLMAO
>>744494737nothing crazy is even happening in that video
>three dudes just straight up walk into our jungle and take all our sinners and camps completely uncontested and if someone tries to do something about it either they reacted too late from too far away and everything is gone or none of the people near him even try to help him despite commsOR>one dude playing a pick character with insane mobility and disables really fucking hates our slow no stamina carry and goes extremely deep into our side to kill him, take his soul bag, then run the fuck out, which gets him absurdly fed; absolutely no one ever gives the carry space to farm something>if you complain about either of these you just get told to spend half your early game 20k networth into "counter items" so you can "survive" or help your carry when really all it does is make you die slightly slower and make you deal negative damage while the unga bunga enemies just keep buying damage items and deleting you in no time for even more snowballingI can't be fucking everywhere at once man, I either janny waves or protect our carry and do objectives or try and fail to claim our farm on our own side of the map before it inevitably gets stolen
did they patch in a real anti-cheat yet?
>>744498512My win rate has gone up after babysitter maxing. Get a mic and play it like an RTS. Tell your retarded carry he's about to get jumped because the haze has vanished from the map and has killed him once already. Tell your teammates to stop grouping up on blue while both side lanes are empty. Tell your teammates to exert pressure so the enemy can't just gank for freeSometimes you just gonna be faustian about it. If you spend all game chasing around your suicidal teammates or trying to react to bad macro you achieve nothing. Recognise the opportunities the enemy offers by raping your team. If they're in your jungle, they're not in theirs. Get a walker, steal their sinners while your wraith gets rapedUse your mic though, sometimes you just have to remind your dumb teammates to play it safer
>>744487292Truke. The game got ruined when they removed one lane, completely raped the map, neutered half the roster and made the game look like Borderlands.
do you get a trophy or something for your pre ranked rank?
>>744499971Nope
>>744487169Silver my wife
>>744494945Qrd?
>>744492632Yes, it is.
>>744488992but the game being crazy deep and a mix of movement shooter, moba, and even fightan game is the appeal. why do you want the game dumbed down when you could simply go back to a simpler game instead?mnc was ludo btw, did not deserve its fate.
>>744494172its a valve game, people will care about it
>>744491687I honestly like how Deadlock does hero additions. Maybe 8 months is a bit too long, but having them come around in patches gets me and everyone else to play the game a bunch for a month or so, gradually stop and play other things, and then have a ton of content to experience the next batch. If it was one hero every month I think I'd experience burnout with the game and be less likely to jump back in the next update
>>744501163That's a fucking wolf
>>744495717Agreed and I've play a decent amount of games in the same genre. Ror and ror2 aren't anything special.
I want to queue for a game but long ago I swore never to play before bed
BEHOLDTHE SAVIOR OF DEADLOCK
>>744502916Sex
They need to remove the individual hero win requirement from ranked, 50 IQ'ers think the system is epicly owning one tricks but in reality it's the opposite, it's epicly owning people being able to be flexible with their picks and making potential team comps even more RNG than they have to be. Make it a clean 100 wins to unlock rank and be done with it.
>>744503262Post on the forumsThey did say they started it stricter so they could ease the requirements later on
>>744503262naw the requirements are good, smurfs can eat shit
>has already saved deadlock multiple times
>>744503361The individual hero requirement doesn't hurt smurfs anymore than the average person
>>744494172Because it has valve money so they can take all the time they wantIcefrog probably has insane pull inside steam due to dota so nigga can do whatever he wants within reason.Reminder the game has been in play-test for almost 2 years at this point and they purposely haven't made a single cent. Because they don't need to.
>>744498784If you want to rank up you OBJECTIVELY need to babysit your team and make them macro correctlyHey infernus push that waveHey guys we got a pick lets do midHey guys koth is up and they have resist advantage let them take it and fight afterwards
This patch made me want to play again>Ranked mode is smurf-proof (needs 60 wins)>Ranked mode doesn't have retards on characters they can't play at all (needs 15 wins per character)>Ranked mode doesn't have six-stacks fucking up the entire matchmaking system and making games unbalanced as shit>Ranked mode has people who actually want to win instead of fuck around>There's now a casual mode where i can just fuck around and play dagger vyper guilt-free
>>744503529I just realised the new changes fuck over account buyers tooSince its very possible the account doesn't have 15 wins on the heroes the buyer playsThis update was so good man, fixed so many issues. They just need to make ranked solo only and the game is saved.
>>744503527You literally have to tell your carries to solo farm most games. Like hello venator and victor stop chasing skirts on blue while calico and dynamo solo farm side lanesYou need to SCREAM objectives so the stupid Russians on your team listen>RIFT RIFT GO RIFT. URN PICK UP URN YOURE RIGHT NEXT TO URN GRAB IT. THEYRE DEAD MID MID MID MID MID MID NOW STOP CHASING THAT SHIV INTO WALKER GO MID. STOP BRAWLING FOR NOTHING
games still take too long
>>744503527My team never listens no matter how common sense basic of a call it is>Wipe the enemy team>"Lets push">3 people go off to farm jungle
>>744489450I literally haven't played deadlock in over a year and when I logged in to check I had 19 characters to play as for ranked. I don't understand what the fuck peoples problem is, just play the fucking game.
>>744503527>>744503845its overwatch brain at its peak
>>744503379The entire point of smurfs is so they can play ranked at an easier level than what they're currently ranked at. If they have to play 60+ games just to get in, and then only have access to at most 4 characters to pick from, they're significantly less likely to smurf. Couple that with "standard" now just being the gigaretard casual mode and they have a new outlet instead.
>>744503617I play with sound off and watch youtube on my second monitor so I can't hear you sorry
>>744504136Having a 100 win requirement would still impact them more than the individual hero win, you're assuming they care about having the whole pool, if they dont then it doesn't do anything to stop them but just increasing the overall wins will inherently impact them
>>744503527Suceeding with pugs is much more about your ability to keep everyone level headed and focused as opposed to playing well together as a team. The best advice ever given was by a pro dota player who said just take the blame for literally everything "oops I fucked up that push" "damn I fumbled that kill" and then constantly applaud your team for every proper move "thanks for getting that tower X player/hero". You're just just training dogs and trying to stop them from fighting each other.Games fall apart when you tell people the truth like "That's a bad call" or "You cost us that lane" etc.
>>744504230A big component as to why people smurf is because it takes a fucking half hour to matchmake at the eternus level because there just aren't enough people. You better fucking believe it won't be much faster when you only have access to one fucking hero no matter what your rank is. Most of them are trying to stream the game so any downtime is miserable for them.
>>744501990Out of 10
>>744504375>no shrubberyinto the trash
>>744501204Source engine's got some sort of quirk where you go further and have more control if you just don't hold forward in the air.
>>744490141because Apollo is a sexy twink and we don't need ugly tf2 barafags here, kys
>>744487169lol biggest problem with deadlock is it doesnt have the dota community behind it helping balance the game icefrog and his team has a bunch of people that dont understand the genre guiding him
>>744501204>>744504441You have a maximum forward speed that is only applied when pressing w. You have a separate acceleration value while being influenced by physics. If you don't press w, your speed is influenced by physics and has no cap so long as you aren't making inputs. Hence you can gain speed via bunnyhopping.
>>744494737By not being a dysgenic slowpoke like you
>try hybrid Ivy for the first time in ages>third eye opens, roll almost every fightMercurial Magnum, by beloved. Of course I was just fucking around in Brawl because I'm a casual shitter, but it was weird how much of a spike I got compared to how things normally go.
>>744487169>Stupid devs don't have region select>check its -1 auto>get put in with Russians and Chinese hackers.I've play 10 games where we were losing and out of the blue some chinese/russian guy just turns on his cheats because he can't be fucked dropping out and we conveniently win.Haha, he just out skilled them last minute totally believable goyim
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>>744496631Rat King is going to BTFO Rem when he gets added
>>744487575I like the rift it's cool.
>>744488420>in the unranked mode where people play like retardsThen perhaps your winrate should be above 50%?
>>744505415It's simultaneously turning into both of those images. Most of the new characters look like the left but the aesthetics of the new map and the hideout and the icons are more like the right.
>>744505649I got left and right mixed up but you get what I'm saying
>>744505649it's been a pretty even split of weird chungus to occultist so far though
>>744505676>>744505649>>744505415Venator is a left hero thoughbeit
>>744504375Monsterfucker
>>744487169trans game
I finally cured my addiction to this game. Whenever I get the urge to queue I remind myself Victor is still in the game and the desire to play instantly evaporates.
>>744505984this but Graves
>>744505998had a match last night with Victor/Graves/Bebop/Dynamo on the enemy team and it singlehandedly ended my interest in this game
>>744505813True, I think Celeste and Apollo being the two most recent heroes left a bad taste in my mouth. Hopefully when cosmetics come out some of the more childish looking characters get better skins.
>>744505984>>>>>>>victorit is so insane seeing the shit people who have like 100 hours in this game complain aboutvictor had and still has one of the lowest pickrates in eternus before the update and i'm sure even after the update that will not change. literally just buy healbane.
>>744506210Its not even healbane that is the biggest issue lolJust buy silencer, shoot him ONCE and he does -25% damage.But yeah its a low elo give away to cry about him. His early game is too shit for him to ever actually be OP, at least compared to broken bullshit like wraith.
>>744492695I mean, it's that, but also Apollo canonically has a strong sense of honor and isn't actually a bad person in a broader sense. Although ranked will be populated by snooty faggots, Apollo still represents how ranked should be ideally.
>>744506353healbane specifically shuts down shit victors in lower ranks, it would instantly solve his problem because he's not playing at a level where the victor knows how to play around it. in lane specifically it makes playing the game a nightmare for him.silencer is great but it's expensive and character dependent, healbane is cheap and basically everyone can get it and make use of it. crucially, it's also a green item and giving shitters more max HP honestly does a lot.
why does it have the dishonored art style?
>>744494737Unironically this.
>>744494737>>744507198retarded niggers like you are why every game has an empty black and white "minimalist" ui like botw
>>744504437this
>>744507281Well, both look like shit, what about doing something good and balanced instead?I don't want to chose between two shitty options.
>>744507369Deadlock is the middle option, you're just retarded and have no idea what you're talking about. For other games in adjacent genres, even advanced players often can't tell what's happening when too much red vomit is on the screen, but Deadlock is very clear in comparison.
>>744507548Still look like shit lol
Are they still trying to turn the game more and more into a head clicking simulator with every patch?
>>744507369>>744507596i was going to engage with your post genuinely but you're clearly just a nigger doing a driveby. kill yourself thanks
>>744507369larping as someone incapable of learning must be very tedious for you.
>>744507647you lost
>>744507621Headclicker simulator has been the meta in some of the funnest patches while spirit meta are some of the worst slogs.
Do deadlock players on 4chan do anything BUT bitch about updates making the came worse?
>>744508337It used to be Ivy/Mina/Paige lewds but we don't have those anymore.
>Be Billy Player>People press parry when you charge in>without fail>Even if not going for a melee buildLMAO, always makes me laugh.
>>744491981>no one can play it in ranked without at least 15 hours of gameplay?Correct. And that's a good thing.
>>744508660There's nothing more satisfying than spamming the light melee button after the enemy fucked up their parryInstant dopamine rush
>>744491404and tf2 is being used as the test bed for it.
>>744487169>Still no final character designs
>>744508821I'm more sad there's been no hero leaksCmon yoshi if you nuked all the leakers then at least give us some teasers.
>>744508809>MvM update is actually the deadlock update
>>744508849Personally I just want to see the finished model for Vyper
>>744501990A werewolfOr more specifically a female werewolf, which is called a wifwolf
>>744488992I disagree. I have no issues with keeping all the mechanics on my mind.
>>744505415TrueIt was more like left at the beginning but now it's an inbetween of both
>>744508856it's more like seeing if they can use the PVE side as a potential market for financial practices, dota 2 had it as apart of some of their battle passes or other updates as events where you could earn rewards and what not by playing it.
>>744508849They fucking nuked all the leaktardsOnly thing we have left are datamines
>>744508941Not going to lie, those PvE campaigns in DOTA (Including Agh Labyrinth) have been good.
>>744494579What were you saying over your mic anon?
>>744508979from having also played them but being years since I've touched dota, yeah they were pretty fun despite how it becomes a meta of sorts to pick the select heroes to steam roll via good rolls, I think it was omniknight that was the biggest bullshit one iirc.
>play 10 games since ranked update released>zero mega blatant smurfs due to ranked requirements and placement matchesits fucking fantastic, obviously its just one step towards total smurfnigger death but its a huge one. also I have a 100% winrate with lash in ranked at 8 matches so far lmao
>>744509062>>744508979Aghs Labs and Siltbreaker were pure unbridled kinoNo other ASSFAGGOT, even dota itself, has matched it since with official contentOnly thing better were the old wc3 custom map campaigns
>>744508849>>744508961I think it was more so a case of the big leaker guy (minesweeper or something) got utterly humiliated by 90% of his connections being faked by a few dedicated trolls and every leaker was basically just piggy backing minesweeper for content.
>>744489294Street Brawl is just a fun "retards fighting retards" mode. Don't sweat about it.
>>744509245nta's but while he was obviously a retard, has there been any meaningful pve leaks beyond "oh yeah pve exists"?
>>744491164yes only report trannies can play great improvement
Could ability draft work with this game?
>>744509245Thankfully the one leak that truly mattered (PvE) is still confirmed and the wardrobe even exists now too in the filesNot like any of the other new leaks were any good. That new vampire and cheshire hero were shit
>>744509315It'll be a cold day in hell if we ever get a Haze with both fixation and infernus' afterburn.
>>744509251The problem with Brool is that the draft is not random. Should have been made the same way as items - you connect - you get three random heroes to choose from.Instead you get the same bunch of meta heroes in every lobby.
>>744509306There was some code in the game that's still their, also new code with every update.>>744509326Nobody is doubting skins being a thing, that's very obvious. What was Bullshit was the vindicta bikini leak for the summer. Which on that topic. Deadlock is probably the only game where I think being chaste with the swimwear in a retro way would be better than some of the sling bikini type shit some people seem to want
Paige is just a modern tumblr girl did the devs forget this game takes place in the past?
>>744509730Paige is white, slim and attractive, can't be a modern tumblrina.
>>744509730And yet characters like her and Celeste get insane positive response from Discord and Reddit. So get ready for more.
>>744500749Absolutely soulless...
the game died when they started ruining every character design
>>744504375I want her to come home drunk and beat me up
>>744498765they fixed the walking underground exploit in the webm
>>744488420Never listen to pro players ever. They consistently have bad ideas but then never own up to it.>pros whine for years to get x>x gets implemented and is hated (because it sucks ass)>"uhmm we never wanted x :). they should listen to the pros next time">repeat
>>744509631>>744509306what i heard is that the pve was the one thing minesweeper was sure wasnt faked and was "corroborated" by other leakers because it was the last thing that was leaked/rumoured before the leak nuke happened
>>744488127onetricks are dumb anywaythe best players might have a preference but can still flex to majority of heroes because knowing how to play a hero is the best way to learn how to counter them
>WHAT DO YOU MEAN I HAVE TO PLAY MORE GAME I LIKE (HATE) BEFORE I CAN PLAY THE GAME
>>744499390>look like Borderlandsit's written in a similar, tryhard cynical way too. hate the millenial writer they have for this and dota now
>>744487169>Muh ranked Never plan on touching it, too much fun playing silly builds like gun abrams or healer lash
>>744510008>tasteless faggots occupying echo chambers like tasteless faggotrywaow!! if they really listen to these losers then the game's doa as fuck
>>744510337>standard queue finally being separate>onetricks and smurfs btfo>boosted streamers and egirls forced down to oracle max and need to solo calibrate for ranked>can adjust team comp but aren't forced off your hero>pauselock dead>no more 4 stacks that don't communicate with the rest of the teamthis update has done more for my enjoyment than any balance patch
>>744510526>do complete opposite>play ranked casually>fuck ranks>fuck around with ranked
>>744495235You're correct, Hopoo is doing more than just game modes, but apparently he's responsible for how Street Brawl turned out, so he's doing that side of it too
>>744490308Same, I would only play a normal match if my rank slipped back into Obscurus (which had longer matchmaking times)I'm glad they brought back having ranked mode being a separate game mode though (to be honest I don't know why they ever removed it to begin with, maybe the player base was too small back when they removed it?), the idea of having my rank slip was one of the main things preventing me from enjoying regular Deadlock matches, they felt too stressful and discouraged me from trying out other characters than the few I play regularly
>>744505415She keeps upsetting nerds
Who are the best content creators for Deadlock and why are they always trans-women?
>>744505415>>744511207Funny thing is Celeste fits the game better than Billy, Paige, Rem, and Graves.
>>744488574Good. Maybe this will finally kill the meme that you can carry or climb solo. The blame always getting shifted onto the individual for not being E6 has always been BS and comes from other hero shooters where leads and meta don't matter as much as raw skill.
>>744491981you're a casual, your opinion is worthless
>>744511271Name 1400 trans women that make deadlock content besides eskay.
>>744505415it's a set of scales of both of these things hopefully it leans further to the left than right but we'll see
>>744491981>and then you have to compete with picking that character with tens of thousands of other peopleWhat? How is it in any way an argument to ranked requirements. The same exact thing happened before. Nothing changed in that regard.
>>744511271>>744511782deadlock doesnt have a dota 2 powerpoints yet
>>744511782Metro transitioned from Overwtach. And therefore a proud trans streamer.
The movement zoom zoom slop single handily makes this game awful to play, there's no methodical or fun gameplay to have when every single character flies and zooms around the map.
>>744512217Maybe an RTS would be more your speed, grandpa.
>woke game litearlly made with the help of Sweet Baby Inc>looks worse than the /v/ meme pics created ages agoOnly trans people play this game
>>744501163The physical contrast between her human and werewolf form makes me think she's some trans allegory
>>744487169>Drop 50k+ damage in <30 minute game>entire team across the board has ~15k damage>Complete stomp, only person on team with positive K/D, doing objectives and pushing lanes>retarded teammates fighting literally anything that moves and becoming broke>team is too retarded to stop fighting constantly>Somehow they have 15k FUCKING DAMAGELegit, literal fucking bots on my team 85% of the time or an actual balanced game, no in-between after this update in non-ranked. Holy shit this game blows. This game is actually so fucked. People are running around like it's Marvel rivals and don't do ANY objectives or get souls, it's fucking nuts. People are literally too low IQ to play the game. Items are fucking BUSTED in this game. Having a soul advantage almost always means you win the game.
>>744512493It's not that bad.
>>744487169>This update SUCKS>t. brick
>>744512279He said methodical, RTS would be too much
Game is peak zoomer slop
>>744487292didn't people hated solo lanes?also I heard the game as much harder before the shop update but also much cooler because every character could play every position.
>>744512752Watching total idiots get gutted by two of the most easily dealt with ults in the game is so satisfying.
>>744512817The game essentially started as a hero shooter with MOBA influences, and has slowly morphed into a dumbed down MOBA with a hero shooter compatibility layer. I can see why the OG fans stopped liking the game over time.
Flopping tranny deadcock.
>>744512817it was more like players were forced to buy 4 cheap items in the categories they didn't care aboutI remember rushing headshot booster, magazine, rapid rounds and close quarters on dynamo every game, because of how investments worked back then T1 items were worth significantly more damage per soul so I could shoot someone down in 5 seconds
>>744512910It turned into a hand holding CC slop moba game. An actual bot can win if they just bot farm and gank with their team. It's like dota on crack, if your team sucks, you are actually fucked from the start.
>>744512839Graves had stamina yet makes no effort to get out of the claw machine. Should tell you everything about what rank they're in.
i really wanna like this game, i love lil nigga REM but the one thing that ruins this game is the zoomer movement shit. i wish theyd dial that down
>>744513704Movement doesn't matter until you reach ascendant or aboveJust learn the game nigga
>>744514802>just eat a pile of shit game is going to die so who cares
>>744514943>game is going to dieYOU. CAN'T. KILL. ME
>>744514943not for a good decade at least>but valve abandoned the dota spinoffs!!false equivalence
>>744515034it's doa
Lady GYATT
>>744515056>>744515034It's a Valve game, they even abandoned Dota despite having 100x more players.The only people that play this right now are Russians and zoomer kids that thinks it's going to be "the next e-sport".It's a woke censored game after everyone is tired of this crap, with awful boring mechanics that's not explained through game and that you need to watch 10 different youtube videos to learn, peak zoom zoom shit
>>744515094Its the pet project by the guy behind dota 2It could make zero money for 5+ years and he'd still get the okay for it to continue, he has that much sway inside valve.
>>744515141They didn't abandon Dota, it's got a large fully voice acted event going on right now. If you change the definition of dead/abandoned to "a few months between updates" then sure, it's already dead.
>>744488127There's nothing stopping you from onetricking once you are qualified for rank.
>>744515158>they'll continue sunk cost fallacy propping it up, surelythis does not not make it doa
>>744502916MANHATTAN IS MY BREEDING GROUND
>>744515180I play Dota, it's 100% abanoded with a single janny working on it.Getting a shitty event that doesn't have ANY gameplay whatsoever and just some shitty tumblr story and characters talking is not alive.It's just something so they can have their shitty woke people they hired to work on something, as Valve can't into vidya games anymore.
>>744515289Is 60k/80k players in a playtest doa?I swear TORtantic ruined a whole generation of posters.
Magic Carpet Abrams
>>744515289then there's no game in your opinion that isn't doachess doesn't get updates anymorefortnite is propped up by sunk cost fallacyit's all dead
>>744515417Lets see what this dick can do
>>744510337One tricking is parroted as the best way to climb for these games, it's partly true but you become a real nuisance to play with on a team real quick. And a detriment if the game has a draft system and the one tricks are known to be queuing and get target banned, or when you get high enough of a rank and people know how to actually play matchups
>>744509542yeah, it gets fucking annoying to see Lash like 8/10 games and its usually enemy Lash that gets my retarded teammates thrown under tower/walker. Nothing wrong with Lash itself but it gets boring after fifth game in a row, when shitters dont know what line of sight is. on top of that this mode is supposed to be fun, and it starting to become very unfun. Hope they change it to all random at some point
>>744515516I get that but I legit can only play 3 heroes>Victor>Billy>Ult wardenMost of that is because I have bad aim, but still. Any other I end up 0/10 on.
>>744515501Can enemies not see magic carpet when you're invisible? what about healing rite?
>>744509314Control your emotions, child, and I wouldn't report you. Remember: I am not offended, I simply do it to piss you off
>>744515365>Valve numbersbots, they accidentally botted artifact not long ago, probably misclicked when they were going to try and make wokelock look more popular
do people actually enjoy this shit? every webm ive looked it is just dudes filling each other's screens with glowing particles until noone can see anything. can something this abysmally unreadable really be made by the tf2 niggas?
>>744515691sure, it's fun
>>74451536590% of the people TORtanic posting weren't even around for it
>>744515609Carpet is always visible regardless
>>744515691It's actually very readable to people who play the game. Every ability and item effect has distinct sounds and visuals.
>>744515642Nevermind I'm talking to grokAt least I hope so, nigga unironically quoting twitter screenshots.>>744515729I'm aware its just sad and funny to see history repeat and repeat again>UGH, ITS DOA ON ARRIVAL!>game is incredibly successful with a long natural lifespanIts like I'm in a timeloopNot everything is TOR you stupid niggers.
>Go to US servers>hey you guys got mics?>trannies replywhat the fuck is wrong with you
>>744510520The writing always felt like that somewhat but recently they just went overboard, Crownfall was still decent but the newest event is ridiculous, every character is quirk chungus and nothing is ever serious.
>>744515691it's one of those games you will not understand the appeal of until you dump a few dozen hours in, then it clicks and becomes like crack.>t. didn't try the game for a year because i saw the item shop and thought learning all that shit is tedious and gay
>>744515365>>744515449>it has x players, not doa>it gets updates, not doado you even know what doa means? it just does not have the pull required for people to invest the time required to have fun with it into it. the writing and designs are just too faggy, sorry. IF it officially launches, it will do huge numbers simply on the virtue of it being a new valve game but it will fall off quick and then limp along with a small playerbase until valve inevitably pulls the plug on it. assfaggot players are soulbound to their IV drip of choice already; deadlock is too late
>>744515872>doa means whatever I don't likewhatever you say tranny
>>744515807>>744515901Your woke game is dead zoomer, cope more
>>744515916it's so dead it's forcing you to waste your time complaining about something you don't like instead of enjoying something you do
>>744515916This tranny ahh game is so dead, fr fr
>>744515975see >>744515642Valve literally up their numbers of their games whenever they want
>>744515501what are those bars on the left of the cahracters?
It must be a miserable experience to argue with retards online because a game you don't like is doing well
>>744516005>Up their numbers>In a playtestYou need to be 18+ to post hereShouldn't you be in summer school?
>>744516014alternate health bars you can enable in the launch settings
>>744516014It's an alternate way to see healthbars that almost no one uses because it bugs out if you've got too many
>>744516005Ah, the last resort of a Steam chart poster.>IT'S LE BOTS!!!
>>744515901>deadcock glazer calling anyone a trannyLOL!
>>744516065>valve game>botsyes
>>744515853it's so insufferable how they try so hard to be funny/endearing/cool with these yet it all comes off as lame and gay. valve should get a grip and get the loser writing this tripe OUT
>>744516242>casual 10xshameless, but then again, who's going to ever audit them for that shit. safe to assume deadlock is at 4-6k then which does sound reasonable
I don't get the hate for onetricksNone of you are ever going pro including me, your hero pool size doesn't matter to anyone you will meet
>>744505893Why is that a bad thing?
>>744516242>game that gets botted for drops is the same as a game that gets botted for, uhh... SOMETHINGThis schizo delusion is just sad
>>744516687It means you will be deadweight when you inevitably end up on another hero, and you don't have the common decency to leave the game when you do
>>744516904>It means you will be deadweight when you inevitably end up on another heroHappens one game out of twelve in my experience, who gives a shitEven then my other heroes are just in the same role anyway
>>744517006>who gives a shit if I give you a scheduled loss bro lmaoYou suck at the game
>>744516850>botted for dropsnigga tf2 drops are all worth $0.03, what the fuck are you talking about. regardless>t-they would NEVER bot, schizo>okay they do bot the playercount but they wouldn't do it to their new title for it to appear successful and appealing despite it being niche and lameholy cope batman
>>744517038Not my fucking problemI guarantee I'm net responsible for less losses than you
>>744517096Who is "they"? Are they in the room with us now?
>playing a woke game in 2026why?
>>744517103>sub 50% on anything but IvyOkay whatever you say bro
>>744517203thanks for playing I guess
>>744517281>sub-50% on heroes i spend 12% of my playtime onremedial math enjoyer spotted
>>744487169Deilock
>>744517304>Oh fuck he got me RESORT TO THE SCRIPT RETURN TO THE SCRIPTkwab
>>744517335Exactly why you should either play them more or stay out of ranked, yes.
>>744517403>pretend to be daft due to no argument>get called out on it>h-hah, g-got you!!embarassing
Wokelock
>>744517491Why should I engage with a schizo delusion, exactly?Let me guess, DOTA and CS is botted too? Evil Valve!!!
>>744517445>Exactly why you should either play them more or stay out of ranked, yes.You being unable to determine how little a numerical impact having a slightly below average winrate on 1/12 games... is why I should play other heroes more? I'm not sure I follow the logicI'll help you out. Protip, both my total winrate and Ivy only winrate were in that picture. Total winrate? Still above 57%Anyway it's just not fun to play other heroes. Playing Ivy is more fun than the other supps and I should actually be allowed to play her more in ranked instead.
>>744517628You are a useless turd off Ivy so I don't care if your overall is positive. I don't want you in my ranked games, period. Stay in Seeker or Brick or wherever the fuck you dwell.
>>744517587You literally did engage
>>744517768Telling a retard to fuck off is not engaging, it's doing my due diligence. My duty as a citizen
>>744517096>nigga tf2 drops are all worth $0.03, what the fuck are you talking about.Are you retarded, nigger? You think every tf2 bot belongs to a separate individuals? TF2 bot farms are run by third worlders, and for them, $0.03 across 3-5k bot farms in txtmode that cost nothing to run after initial purchase of 5 dollar minimum accounts that are always stolen. They unload this shit to tf2 traders in bulk. It's an infinite source of low revenue for them until they get banned. But sure, shizo nigger, it's Valve doing it.
>>744517843>pretending to be daft, ignoring raw data, and calling someone names is doing due dilligence
>>744517730Ohhhh, dear. Having to change tack, I see. I accept your concession, I suppose.>You are a useless turd off Ivy so I don't care if your overall is positive.Yeah, but I'm better on my one hero than you'll ever be on your many.Anyway, for the record it WAS ascendant. I dunno where I end up after the great squishening, haven't played. I'll wait and see for a bit if they drop the win requirement down to 10 or something, I'll be eligible to ranked again then. That'd be nice
How much do Indians get paid shilling this woke game here?
>>744517906Don't bother. This guy has to be one of Timmy's EGS shills, no one can be this retarded.
>>744517915What data did I ignore? I explained it, and you are falsely attributing said data to apply to a way broader set of gamesAre you retarded, perhaps?
>>744517925What did I change? From the start I've been very clear I don't want you in my games.>I'm better on my one heroA 58% winrate to Ivy (last I checked 57% global) isn't anything to write home about. I've got a 75%+ on Vyper, Paradox, Graves, Paige, Apollo. Matter of fact I'm pretty sure I've got a 60% on Ivy.>ascendantEmissary (crow) post squish, maybe Ritualist
AI coded game
>>744518226they also killed niggerkikesany other true news?curse on vishnu btw
>>744503262>skilled enough to get 100 wins>not skilled enough to get 45 wins across three heroesskill issue, assmad one-tricks and smurfs can eternally eat shit
>>744488992Fuck you. I fucking hate soulless games made for every low iq retard like league and valorant. You have fucking brain use it.
>>744491981You are a subhuman nigger
>>744518432trvke
Cant play with my bros anymore gg >>744517304kill yourself
>>744518213>What did I change?The part where you realized you can't do math, and that having a slightly below average winrate for 1/12 games actually isn't that significant at all. Definitely not worth the tanty you're chucking about it.>From the start I've been very clear I don't want you in my games.That's not my problem. It's not yours, either. Probabilistically speaking, we were never going to be in a game together anyway. I doubt we're even on the same gateway.>I've got a 75%+ on Vyper, Paradox, Graves, Paige, Apollo.I believe you. But when each of those heroes makes up way fewer games, that doesn't really mean as muchLike, as an example (with small numbers to help you out), a winrate of 75% with a sample of 4 games doesn't actually mean very much at all.
>>744510183now post her beta character icon
>>744488992Chinks think mechanic and system bloat is good and Valve only panders chinks and russians now.And I'm not even joking, look at any Chink game and it will have a billion different systems and bloats.
>>744504279Streamers can suffer for all I careI think the hero requirement is a good way to punish (or at least inconvenience) smurfers and account buyers. Maybe 10 wins would be nicer though.It could be 100 total wins AND 10 wins on the hero, that might work well
>>744518529>can't do mathWhat about my post implies I can't do math. You are objectively speaking significantly worse when you are off Ivy, a delta of 15%+. That is an undeniable fact and on the slim chance (supposedly 1/12) you're off Ivy, you are an overall detriment to your team simply because you won't put in the minimum effort to try and learn and actually show some respect to some teammates who'll be stuck with you for the next 30 minutes.All those heroes are 30-40+ games, by the way. Still stasticially insignificant but paints a broader picture of me as a consistent player.
>>744517304never stop schizo posting anon, you're a joke I'll never get tired of
>>744518816>What about my post implies I can't do math.It's not just one post. It's here >>744517281, where you imply that being sub-50% on my non-main heroes is significant. And then here >>744517445 and here >>744517730 where you're confronted with the reality that small numbers of games on other heroes actually don't have a very big statistical impact when there's a very large number of games on one hero, realize you're melting over nothing, and have to change tack to save face.>supposedlyNo 'supposedly' about it. I literally posted my amount of games played on Ivy vs. my total games. 1/12 are on non-Ivy heroes. You don't need to take me in bad faith without due cause, anon, that's very rude faggot shit.My poorer performance on non-Ivy heroes has only impacted my total winrate by ~1.6%, dropping from 58.6% to 57% (still significantly better than most people who develop a wide hero pool manage). Additionally, bearing in mind that Ivy makes up 88.3% of my games, this is not something you are likely to ever actually be practically impacted by.Statistically, you will not notice. You will not care. You will probably claim you do in a rantpost about forced 50 somewhere where you cry I was disrespecting you because I didn't get my favorite hero, but looking solely at the numbers, my onetricking simply does not impact you, and there is no need to be so upset about it.>All those heroes are 30-40+ games, by the way.That's not very many, no.For the record, I'm not unimpressed by consistency, it's an important skill too and I'm glad you're proud of it. I just don't actually care to be consistent across a wide variety of heroes because I consider being consistently good at Ivy more important, on account of how she's the most fun hero in the game.
>>744519631Let me make this very simple for you:>A: Are you significantly, according to the very statistics you linked, worse on other heroes than on Ivy?>B: Are you a detriment to your team, from a statistical viewpoint, if you are off Ivy?>C: If I get you on my team, not on Ivy, am I statistically less likely to win than if I had a normal, non-one-trick player?Consider this an IQ evaluation.
is Vyper still fugly?
>>744519816A: No. On my non-Ivy games, my w/l is 46/37. This is a winrate of 55%. Although worse than my Ivy performance, this is still significantly above the expected 50%, and thus not significantly worse at all.B: No. See above. With a winrate above 50%, I am statistically not a detriment to my team while I am off Ivy.C: No. Due to my winrate off Ivy being above 50%, I am still a net contributor to wins while off Ivy, and thus you are not statistically less likely to win than with a "normal" player.I'll accept your concession in advance, thank you. And I'll take my apology by way of sucked dick.83 - 37
>>744520216Funny, I also came to the conclusion that your IQ was in the range of 83-37.
>/v/ pretending to hate this when they were ground zero for actual discussion when the shit leaked and people kept begging for invites lmao
>>744520380its popular now so its bad
>>744520380>dude /v/ used to love this game before it became popular xDDSaid by every single game ever
>>744520380invites are unlimited, i don't even know how these chinese and russians are bot spamming invites.the player numbers are still so low that i have to join US servers and Asia servers for games. The infinite invites are working because people get filtered on the first game when i rape them 12 times and they all DC because they fed me the soul cummies
>>744520345Oh, sorry. I forgot to delete that out of my post, lol. I was writing shit down in the post window to keep track of the numbers while I was mathing it out quickly.Anyway, were you going to apologise and accept that onetricking is statistically irrelevant to your winrate, while also being good for my own? Honest to god, no judgement here. It's okay to be wrong every now and again. And like I said, I do think consistency is an important skill too. We're both self-professed good players here, I'm only asking for the same respect you're due.
>>744520380/v/ is even less video games than it was in 2024
>>744505415/v/ isn't ready for this, but Celeste is a "left" character
>>744505415Why is Sans there?
>>744520380>vee jumped on a new valve title>it turned out to be tryhard derivative sloppa with faggy designs>people are now calling it outif the game wasn't shitty it wouldn't be happening. simple as
>>744488127>this makes onetricks very madHow? If anything this encourages onetricks.
>>744505415/thread
>>744521138they need 15 wins on heroes other than their one-trick, duh>>744521131/v/ will jump on anything that's popular, don't kid yourself
>>744487169>play assfaggots>be shocked that they get worse and suck
>>744508731its a shootygameall the characters are literally the same and use the same items(purple) for all their damage scaling(retarded furrytranny niggerdevs)theres no point to limiting play to hours in a character, because they are all the same (duh you gay retard)
>>744521813>its a shootygameYou being kept out of ranked is one more reason the update was based.
Which noir/occult archetypes do you hope they add next bros?For me? A mummy and a headless horseman (sleepy hollow).
Did they really make it so the urn no longer reveals you when carrying it? Because I'm laughing, I've thought valve should have done that for the longest time.
>>744521076>why is THE quirk chungus represents quirk chungus theme
>>744522208Yeah but it's a solo objective now. Only the person who delivers gets souls. They can be denied by anyone tho.
>>744522352What happens if someone on your team claims them?
>>744522519they get the souls instead.
>>744522519you share, so it can be worth doing on purpose
Guess he disappeared. I mean, I was expecting him to just conveniently forget before the next time the topic came up anyway, but an apology would have made me feel a bit better still.Anyway, I hope I've made my case that being a baddie is separate from being a onetrick, and there's no need for anyone to be so upset by it.
>>744487169Brothers I was hyoed for some bug shit with content and maybe heroes as it was the longest wait between patches...And it was gay matchmaking and that's it....I play exclusively street brawl by the way
>>744521813Factually incorrect. Even if you put the abilities aside (you shouldn't), every hero has different stats on their health, resistances, gun, etc. Some even have unique scaling modifiers. For example, Venator's bullet and spirit resistance scales with spirit.
>>744521968Playing the Opus Magnum expansion got me wanting an alchemist hero who gave up on trying to create the philosopher's stone after decades of failure and decided to ask the patrons for answers. Maybe he could be like Invoker from Dota, mixing reagents to do stuff.
>>744523551I haven't been paying attention to your argument but you seem a big enough faggot for me to say the other guy was probably right.
>>744524304Warden is supposed to be an alchemist but that theme is completely wasted on him.
>>744488420>open the game fresh, 0 hours in>I should be allowed to ranked on a fresh account!!Fuck off
I can't wait for Rem vs Rat fights in the sewers
>>744524480Warden is just someone who uses alchemy for his work (aka, he throws a debuff flask). I want a genuine alchemy themed hero.
>>744505415This makes me really want a rocketeer style hero but I'd rather chainsaw my own legs off than have another airborne/flying character in the game.
>>744524672it can be a singular ability similar to Abrams' ult
>>744524582They renamed Alchemist rank so maybe they're still adding a hero with that name
>>744489791You are 100% correct, I was given access to like 7 heroes because of what you said.There's a new UI that tells you how many wins you have on each hero.If you've playing normally for a while this change means nothing to you.If you have 400 wins with lash and 6 wins with ivy and that's your second best you'll be mad, and no, you shouldn't be playing ranked and that's a good thing.
>>744512516>a werewolf is now a trans allegory because they didn't give her massive nipple tits in wolf formplease unironically jump off a cliff
>>744489791they exist. They're either one tricks or they were hard carried by better players in a stack.As someone who is dogshit at the game, once the update went live i already had three characters available to jump into ranked, and maybe 3-4 other characters that needed less than 5 wins to unlock in ranked. Still working on placement matches so i'm not sure what my current rank is going to be (pre-update i was mid seeker).So the people complaining about having to get 15 wins or unlock ranked entirely are either too new to be in ranked in the first place, or so bad at the game that it's 100% a self report.
>>744487292>>744499390>>744510520Damn, you guys plan this together in your Discord?
>>744517628>>744517925>>744518529>>744519631>>744520216>>744520552Sex.
>>744495147>>744495486>>744496535>>744497836>>744504594>>744507281>>744507548>>744507647>>744507648>I enjoy [WARNING: LOW SEMEN] UI so you should toono i dont think i will
>>744526630every part of the UI is functional and you're a scrub
>>744527160nigga he plainly admits he never played it and his entire opinion is warped by /v/ memes.
>>744494884Counter buying is a meme and it confuses the fuck out of pisslows.You only buy a counter item if it works against 3-4 enemies-t. Phantom (top 10%)
Silver looks like she fucking reeksI want her to pour whiskey down her bush and make me lick it off
>>744527842In your opinion, would the comeback game would be fixed with this simple trick?:>every 5% soul difference, the losing team's guardian/walker gets more armor/attck damage to heroes (creep damage/armor not affected)
>>744518392>A ranked mode where the average person can only pick 3 heroes is a good thing>Thinking one tricks give a shit about having to play 2 extra heroes then never againyou didn't address my points for a reason, stupid nigger
>>744528223Everyone knows you are in the wrong, onetrickMaybe take a hint, that nobody lines onetricks
>>744528364If you don't like one tricks why do you like people being limited to 3 heroes
>>744487169this is going to flop. they got infinite money, they are a good place to work for allegedly, and they can't make a game for shit, lol.
>>744525592>I collide with my fellow autogynephiliacs to shill this tripe therefore everyone who has an opposite opinion HAS to be doing the same thingkek nice way to oust yourself retard
>>744528429That's a minimum, retard, not a limitYou can have all heroes unlocked, see>>744525056It has 12You dont even fucking play the game huhDon't reply to me again retard, play the game or get the fuck out
>>744528501there's an internal clique of activist sociopaths that mold the company in their lame sodomite image and everything valve shits out these days is a testiment to that
>>744528646>he thinks the average person has more than 3 lol
>>744528715In what way does that have anything to do with what he said? >>744523551You bored me so I went to take a nap. You suck. Stay in Brick
>>744509047>Shiv: Nooooo Drifter>Me after I get the kill and get out: YEAHHHHHHHHHHComms were great that game, 4 of us were native English speakers with mics, not a common sight on EU
>>744488127this is exactly what i wanted, get good this isn't league where you play 1 role 1 character this is a real game where you need to know how everything works
>>744528873>In what way does that have anything to do with what he said?>helolsamefag harder
>>744494579>>744528904Stay in /dlg/ you fuck
>>744487169the heroes in this game are not complex enough to warrant a 15 win requirement. you're telling me wraith, haze, venator, drifter, infernus, etc play all that differently?
>>744529074>non-argumentNo wonder he didn't bother to reply>>744529094That does not matter. You owe it to your teammates to put in the minimal amount of effort
>>744529094In a ranked setting? YesIf you're so good with them then you'll get 15 wins in no time anyway
>>744529094Drifter certainly seems to have a fairly unique shtick.
>>744529158>That does not matter. You owe it to your teammates to put in the minimal amount of effortdeadlockfags are delusional>>744529164>In a ranked setting? Yesnot really>>744529247you left click on an enemy until they die
>>744529292Brick GAWD
>>744529158nta but you're actually retarded if you need it to be spelled out
>>744525592You are mentally ill
>>744529094deadlock players and especially m1monkeys are delusional
>>744529441>non-argument
>Trying to decide on a comp in ranked>Need certain heroes>No one has said heroes unlockedgreat system
>>744488992>too many mechanicslmao like fucking what, retard?
>>744529537you have to shoot the soul orb and think about whether you should buy regen or damage in lane and sometimes you break boxes its too much.... its too fucking much..........
>>744529534It's actually so fucking dogshit, it amazes me that it got implemented -and- that there are people defending it. It's also surprising to me that Icefrog would think it's a good idea since it goes against the entire philosophy of Dota 2, which is having total access to all heroes without having to pay or grind for them.Should be reverted ASAP.
>>744515158No wonder valve has been complete garbage with making games ever since they touched dota. All the talent left and only the moba retards remained
>>744529094If they are not complex what stops you from winning 15 times in standard stomps lil sneed?
>>744529785The funniest thing is defenders think it's anti-one trick but it's the opposite, if anyone wants you to play a certain hero you can just go "oops I dont have that one"
>>744529814abloo bloo bloo
>>744529829playing 5 hours per hero in standard is boring. do you like being bored?
>>744529997>i dont get my imaginary good boy points uuuuugh this is so boring
>>744487169they overbuffed mina, dynamo, mohammad and kelvin, the urn and koth objectives are ASS like legit unfun to do and fight for and should be removedthe MM is an ok change but i need new content and good balance for once
>>744530046i accept your concession
>>744529829NTA but the other 5 players going 0/10 in lane.It's a 6v6 game.Being forced to spend dozens of hours in a dogshit low quality mode (standard/unranked) where there's an abandon every other game is going to kill Deadlock if it stays as-is. Players will simply quit rather than grind that much. And unranked players who have no interest in ranked will be forced to deal with people who are trying to grind wins to get into ranked.It's a horrendously flawed system.
>>744530096Everyone else in standard is trying to get their wins too. You're both trying to get better at heroes you suck at.
>>744496015>i don't understand why people don't like being confined in a small circle in a game where the movement should be the selling point and most rifts are decided on which team has the most heroes that can vomit, shit and piss on the ground the hardestit's a mystery
>ranked sissies are having a melty
>>744487169Deadlock nigs pretending like their hero shooter has the depth of something like DotA is so fucking funny. The movement isn't hard, the itemization is shallow, your game is no different from Overwatch
>>744529292You have to work with a hero specifically getting most of his strength from when his target is isolated and show you're still able to play him in the laning phase when he likely isn't going to have that strength.
>>744529924That and being a 3-trick is barely different from being a 1-trick in a game where there's 38 heroes. If anything it punishes players who like to play all or most of the cast and forces them to main a handful of heroes. Completely destroys a central premise of the game (drafting from a wide variety of heroes).And when they add more heroes everyone will be forced to grind out 15 wins each. Last major update added 6 heroes. That's 90 wins total. You'll be spending likely -over a hundred hours- grinding a dogshit mode if you want to play them all in ranked. There's no way that won't cause a shitstorm even among sweatlord redditors.Valve did not fucking think this through at all lol.
Waiting for PvE and spectator updates. The game is only slightly better to watch than Overwatch which is also unwatchable.
>>744530450AND I FORGOT TO MENTION because the meta shifts so wildly different heroes will be strong or weak with each patch. Imagine you spent a bunch of time grinding heroes to unlock for ranked and then Yoshi destroys them in a patch. Better go grind three more heroes!Horrible, horrible, horrible. People defending it are retards.
>>744530279i have 7k hours in dota the items in deadlock are better because you can play heroes in a meaningfully different way instead of your only choice being aghs build or not
>>744530346laning phase adaptation isn't hero-specific knowledge, it's a general skill you already have from literally every other hero in the game. every character plays differently early vs late, that's not some special lesson unique to drifter.
>>744530646It's called stop being a sweat and learn to enjoy some practice on unranked.You know, the way you're supposed to. Not being a perma-tryhard constantly trying to adapt to ranked in every meta like you're some 99-percentile pro.
>>744530148Why defend a mode you clearly haven't played? It's immediately apparent that standard has lower quality matches compared to pre-patch matchmaking. Lots of people clearly do not give a shit. It's mixing players with conflicting goals together. Dumb as fuck.
>>744530805>It's called stop being a sweatIt's the exact opposite faggot, this new system is designed for sweats because it forces you to grind for dozens of hours just to have access to the non-dogshit mode. The old system was way better. The new system is not designed for people with jobs or social lives, it's designed for the most showerless MOBA players.>enjoy some practice on unrankedThe problem is that unranked matches are significantly lower quality. There's abandons every other game.
>>744530834?This is literally my match history as of last night trying to unlock heroes (+ one Apollo game which I also won)
>>744530995>thinks winning = high quality match>almost 2 weeks worth of games and not even halfway through the required win countYou are just proving my point blud.It's dogshit, why people feel compelled to defend a brand new system that Valve did not think through boggles my mind.Icefrog games were supposed to be above this kind of forced grinding. Might as well add currency unlocks and rune pages next.
>>744487169Nu-valve can't even make a playable auto-chess.Do you really think they have the competence to create a good AA+ game?
>>744531204?You said I hadn't played the modeI obviously haveWhy does your personal experience outweigh mine?kys disingenuous retard
>>744529534She'd be abusive
>>744529667Shooting the soul orb is too much though, last hitting is already aids now you have to last hit the floating orb
>>744530741>laning phase adaptation isn't hero-specific knowledge, it's a general skill you already have from literally every other hero in the game.Most heroes in the game aren't specifically designed to be stronger fighting isolated targets, this was just said to you.
>>744528689unfortunate
>>744531613you don't have to last hit though you just have to be in soul range
>>744530083No, he's right. Your post makes no sense.
Any decent youtubers to watch? I'm mainly trying to figure out the camps and where to go in the jungle and what I should be killing for exp or buffs without figuring it out myself blind. Also are lanes and/or characters set into roles? Only MOBA I've played is SMITE.
>>744487169Correction. This GAME sucks.
Big fan of Graves
>>744534261Deathy is a good guy to learn from, a charisma vacuum though.
>>744534261Im something of a newbie myself (over 100 hours going fully blind) but I can tell you some things I have noticed about this game so far. Money and exp are the same stat but you won't lose exp by spending money.So far jungle camps have zero verity since all the mobs are the exact same just with higher HP values and slightly more damage reflecting their value. The big ones are such a pain to kill so should plan in some before attempting them. A small camp spawns very early on in the game on every lane so during downtime you can kill them, they are just across the lanes shop if you wonder. Keep your eyes on the mini map because I don't know the timings when the sinners spawn. These are the pachinko machines spitting out cash and stat boosts they cost money to play and can even kill you so be careful about that. Souls from sinners and boxes are unsecured souls btw, you drop them if you die and any player can pick them up. So avoid dying with alot of change in your pockets. And try to cycle between taking waves pushing out as much as you feel comfortable with and then jungling. If you can do a few rotations without any major incidences you will easily have the most souls in the game. And lastly the way the items are and the color system with the items makes it so that no one has a role but only leans into certain roles. You aren't forced to play a heal not support but can go unga bunga gun monkey with them. I've seen rems bulldog gun and carrying. So don't be afraid to mess around
>>744534261There was a list of deadlock youtubers that you should NOT watch floating around.It had all prominent youtubers that are know to smurf. You shouldn't watch any retard that needs to stomp on ultranoobs to create their epic clip farms.
Ive been having FAR better matches Thank god
>>744536116I haven't been able to find any matches.
>>744488992Based as fuck, I loved Monday Night Combat for how compact, tight, and simple it was
>>744494309are you me
https://youtube.com/shorts/2wasOfJlcUk?si=75CTYSVRGbvh_8QcIvy, my beloved
>>744493659>RISE UP AND TAKE WHAT YOU DESERVE>What she deserves:https://files.catbox.moe/7nboj5.mp4
>>744536975Mina would RUIN your life btw
How are they losing, they got doorman...he's SSSSSSSSSSSS tier god OP
>>744509730She's not that modern. Girls like her have been around for years. However so what? it just gives you an even bigger incentive bully her when she's on the enemy teamhttps://files.catbox.moe/hq1vpm.mp4
>>744537249why are you threatening me with a good time though?
>>744536975She Mina on my Ha till I rise up and take what I deserve (her delicious chink pussy)
>>744534697this but she's dogshit right now
>>744534697feh. too insufferable for my tastes
>need to play 100 hours to play ranked LMAOLOL EVENkill yourself valve employees
Why do people want to join ranked straight away? Why are there people that play nothing but ranked?Same question I have had of DOTA players.
>>744539491but enough about dota 2
>>744487292Because Valve can do no wrong, using steam is my personality, Gabe Newell is Jesus xD
>>744539535>Why do people want to join ranked straight away?Ego.>Why are there people that play nothing but ranked?Higher quality experience ( no smurfs and complete noobs on their very first game)Also number go up feels good
So the people complaining are mad because they feel left out i hope next update raise the bar to play ranked even more
>>744538917Still doesn't stop me from playing her>>744539301Exactly why I like her along with her big nose
>>744540723that's fine just stay out of my ranked lobbiesI had to blow my ban on her because getting her on my team is an insta-loss
So are unranked games also going to be more balanced or am I going to have to choose between relaxed casual or games being balanced?
>start of game >Lane mate disconnected for the first 3 minutes while enemy team tri lanes on my lane like it's 2012 Dota >Play extra careful, never go under half health, somewhat enjoy solo farm >One enemy fucks off to the other laner >Team mate returns >Suddenly start dying 3 times in a row Im starting to think the problem on my teams is me
>>744539549youre not supposed to point that out
i'm not able to play deadlock often right now but the more i hear that they're gutting movement and encouraging big brawl-y teamfights the less interested I am. I don't really care for Overwatch's teamfights teamfights teamfights emphasis and like it when positioning makes a lot of difference
>>744544104What movement did they gut, exactly?It's just /v/ coping that they WILL gut movement sometime, or else its """doa"""Teamfights will always be a thing, it's a moba and there are objectives.
>>744544193they flirt with making movement and evasion weaker or less relevant in ways both direct and indirect all the time- putting a debuff on the jump pads, direct movespeed nerfs, putting a lot of what urn runs did on teamfights, changing to three lanes, nerfs to stamina regen, etc. u can be like "oh such and such individual change is obviously good for the game" but it remains curbing mobility right
>>744544551Movespeed nerf is a buff to movement, you understand that, right? You're more incentivized to use fancy movement to make it places faster. The difference between a schmuck just running and a guy schmooving becomes greater the more they nerf base movement speed.You don't even understand the impact of the changes they're making, you've already made up your mind.
>>744539549lol.
>>744544739I don't know if I agree with that whole-heartedly. Like, the way movement speed works in source is that you're building on your speed. If you have a faster base movespeed then your tricks just get crazier the faster you go. I dunno I feel like there's a misconception from some that movement is about showing off tech and gimmicks and that's part of it but it's also just enjoying a fast-flowing pace to the game.
Bump
>>744487904Period.
>>744543181The enemy probably felt bad and were holding back until you weren't outnumbered anymore.
>>744487169It's a little retarded that now standard matches feature drastic differences in player skill.
>>744491339the shrink ray item is so utterly retarded, it instantly wins the game unless the other team has dispel/aoe.
>>744546679What else is new?
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I dont know how can you guys play this shit. I finally took my friend's request to play this game and the visual noise in this garbage is insane, its like a clown puked all over my screen
>>744546679I standard even more stompier now then?
>you know hear the jingle that the sinners play
just nerf Graves, Beebop and echo shard and the game will improve by 67%
>>744490141Apollo is the definition of a tryhard.
Game needs a Dagon-like item.
>>744548862Its not chinaslop howeverthoughbiet
>>744528018She'd just call that a waste of a bottle
>>744548905I want to Zap niggas
>>744531256stop stealing poe memesgive back that tub right now
