>Malicious imitator blatantly rips assets directly out of your games and launders them through AI to pass them off as original designs>Makes no effort to hide or refute this whatsoever>Releases a trading card game and rips the assets from your TCG for that too>Stares you in the face and pisses on your leg for two yearsNintendo's response?>Sue them for patent infringement on a single mechanic from Pokemon...Go.>Lose, obv.Wtf.
Because legally it was easier to use the patent issue than design issues, even though they are similar, the changes it has are enough for no court to take it seriously; it more or less protects those who make fan art, pornographic, or off-model works in the same way.
>>744501626I can see it taking a long time for courts to put two and two together as to how AI relies on copyright infringement in order to produce output like this. AI isn't capable of original thoughts, so it's not using "references" in the same way a fan artist would. But the mechanics of AI are not widely understood and it's hard to litigate against it without just sounding mad.
>>744501361lmao everyone's suddenly a lawyer
>>744501361Nothing of that happened and plagiarism isn't automatically copyright infringement if your work isn't a direct copy of existing designs with minor alterations
>>744501361Not one single Pal design infringes on Pokémon's IP. They never had a case. They never had a case because it is impossible to claim Ken Sugimori's monster's eyes as a patent, trademark or copyright. You know they tried.
>>744501876Yes, Palworld managed to avoid the lawsuit because they made enough changes that they no longer infringe on Nintendo's patents and have changed the design of the Pals to be more similar. Now Nintendo is fighting to prevent the release of a non-existent version of Palworld.>>744501953There are autistic lawyers, supposedly that's what most people on the internet say. I couldn't tell you for sure, but seeing that Pocketpair launched their game without any problems, it's clear the lawsuit doesn't carry enough weight to hurt them.
>>744502164>They've changed the design of the Pals to make them more different.Fix
>>744502164To be fair I think that the main reason Nintendo sued Palworld is just to distance the two IPs rather than actually get rid of the gameHaving a game around that streamers straight up call "Pokémon with guns" is bad for the trademark
>>744501361It's almost like nothing of what you said was actually true...
>>744501953You don't have to be a lawyer to see that patents on mechanics don't have anything to do with the copy-pasted look of the characters.
>>744501361Never thought I'd ever be able to use pic related unironically, but you made it possible op, thanks for giving it purpose
>>744501361nintards are so fucking embarrassing honestlyalready lost to genshin, now losing to palworld, and picking fight with gta as welland just wait until late gamescom later this monththere'll be an announcement (or two) at gamescom that'll send all the tendies on this board into a diapershitting rage
>>744502775It doesn't have any purpose until you make a respectable claim as to what was supposedly inaccurate, and what you think happened in contrast. Or are you just gonna cop out like a faggot, which is what it currently looks like?
>>744502954nta just read it up. don't care if troll, we had these psycho babble threads for months
>>744503017You're copping out, got it.
>>744502293There are many reasons why it could have been:1) Nintendo listened to the autistic Pokémon fans who were even fabricating evidence that they had directly taken assets from Pokémon.2) They saw potential competition, and curiously, the lawsuit started when it was heard that Palworld was going to sell merchandise (I think, I don't remember exactly when).3) What you say
>>744503073More like they had AI harvest the assets so they didn't have to. Whatever your definition of "directly" is doesn't affect whether Palword republished Pokemon's assets in what is essentially a hashed format.
>>744501361>>744502954The majority of early access designs (2021 trailer) predate "useful" "generative" AI.The only thing Palworld ripped off 1:1 is Sugimori's artstyle, any other perceived 1:1 ripoffs are a direct consequence of this and the whole "we're a Pokemon ripoff with guns and black comedy" marketing.Making clones of copyrighted characters with only a few minor details changed has never been illegal and Nintendo could've never won such a lawsuit without bribing the shit out of the whole legal system.ur a faget
>>744501361AI didn't even exist when palworld was first conceptualized
>>744501361>Malicious imitator blatantly rips assets directly out of your games and launders them through AI to pass them off as original designsPic unrelated I guess because palworld didn't do that despite what tendie agitators claimed>Makes no effort to hide or refute this whatsoeverNo need to hide what didn't happen or refute a lie>Releases a trading card game and rips the assets from your TCG for that tooMaybe Nintendo should sue all the other TCGs for copying their "put monsters on cardboard" idea, there's a lot of them about >Stares you in the face and pisses on your leg for two yearsMore like>Looks at you in confusion as you waste millions trying to maintain your artificial monopoly instead of just making a good gameNintendo didn't just just sue for "a single patent" they tried to bury palworld as a threat to the rest of the industry and thankfully they've failed.
>>744503439>artstyleIf it were just the same artsyle, I wouldn't be able to see Staraptor, Snubbull, Piplup, and Lucario in the OP pic.
>>744501361They were probably advised that it would be too hard to convince a boomer judge of direct infringement, the best argument they had for Copyright Infringement was Pocket pair directly working off of Pokemon model meshes, even though anyone with any knowledge about anything 3D art could look at it tell you they obviously did, the plausible deniability was there.By the way as a fun fact for anyone who doesn't actually play the game, all the blatantly plagiarised meshes have long since been quietly patched out of the game and replaced with actual original meshes. (Like the infamous Primarina hair) So even if they tried to do it now they couldn't anyway.
>>744503836Bait used to be believable.
>>744503836schizophrenic people can hallucinate no matter what they're looking at
>>744503929Shills like (You) never were.
>>744503408At most, they could have used AI to create several designs, and that's it. They changed them enough; it's not that big of a deal. Even matching the proportions and claiming it had the same polygon count was just too much for Pokémon fans.
>>744501953being a lawyer is a busybody midwit job that any 4chan autist could instantly pick up and do in a weeks time why do you think theres so many women lawyers? ponder on such things, imagine the smell and get back to me
>>744503836Is your favorite movie Boss Baby by any chance?
>>744503872>plagiarised meshesDidn't those who made those comparisons later come out and say that they cheated to make the meshes match?
>>744501361>Nintendo lawyers are as competent at their job than Gamefreak's devs are at theirPoetry.Or cartoon evil team. Love the "mountain of incompetence holding mostly due to luck" trope.
>>744503872I should have added but, even though Pocketpair obviously pulled a "Sure just dont make it obvious" on copying Pokemons homework, Tracing someones artwork and changing a couple of lines has never been illegal, since the meshes weren't literal 1:1 copies at the data structure level Nintendo never really had an argument for Copyright Infringement in my book.Did Pocket-pair trace over Pokemon models when making some of their own? Absolutely its fucking obvious they did but since they didn't literally lift the data directly that’s also not illegal either.
>>744504053>They changed them enough; it's not that big of a dealIt is a big deal, actually. And they changed the character models alright, after they got caught out by modders.
>>744504139They didn't lift the data directly but its obvious to anyone with a brain that they traced them, morally grey? sure but its also not illegal to do that, artists online will seethe at you if you trace their art and change a few lines but they also can't do shit about it.Patching them all out quietly shortly after launch is also practically an admission of guilt on a moral level, but not in court.
>>744504175
>>744504146The whole thing about Palword from the start has been that they did make it obvious, and they're still doing that with the trading card game. They dgaf lmao.
>>744504238They changed it so people wouldn't talk nonsense.
>>744504294Obviously they will never directly come out and say "Yeah we changed them because they were too close to Pokemon models" because then Nintendo would have a confession to work with, which is much more admissible evidence in a court than "Dude its obvious lmao"
>>744504175the meshes were never the same even if they try to rescale them to "fit", but they were definitely traced over from the pokemon meshesand tracing isn't illegal (or at least is a gray area) if the end result is different enough, so nintendo had no case there
>>744504382Why do they still believe in the meshes narrative, which, even if true, wouldn't hold up in court since Nintendo used patents to sue? And the patent issue seems dirtier to me than the meshes
>>744504246>ha ha I was being SILLY by fabricating evidence to support my argument!
>>744504641Because the narrative is all that matters >Palworld plagerised Pokémon Is true, any supporting evidence, no matter how tenuous, is ironclad and any opposing evidence is ignored
>>744504238When you rip assets that are still recognizable as what they were in their original form, to make a game that's a direct competitor to the game you sourced them from, you're closing alot of the gray area. The fact that Nintendo lost on the "catching" patent says that Palworld isn't too mechanically similar to Pokemon, but the character designs weren't even ruled on apparently because Nintendo didn't even pursue them on it. Now every contrarian faggot who likes Palworld is trying to pretend they won by being 100% legit, but their antics indicate otherwise.
>>744504817Kek sure nigger >>744504246
>>744504842>nintendo sue them because, in my opinion, they copied your designs!>nintendo is suing over patents!>noooooo, it had to be over design! Help me, Miyamoto!!!!!Kek cope
>>744501361Have you considered that Nintendo used actual experts, rather than retards on twitter who later admitted they lied about asset theft?
Nintendo lost because Dupin is Pocketpair's lawyer
>>744501361Based fuck shitendo
all the retards smugly saying nintendo has never lost a lawsuit before lmao
>>744504842The reason its a grey area is because even though to humans its obvious you cant ever definitively prove it, making the entire argument online mostly pointless as arguments from both sides boil down to "Yeah they did" and "Nu Uh you can't prove it"
>>744502164I want to fuck Dupin's tight cabbit pussy
>>744505528Kek
>Palworld thread just got deletedUh oh, stinky?
>>744506102I like to imagine a nintendo-merch clad janny having a melty while deleting it
>>744501361The guy who tried to claim they were copied purposefully doctored the models to make them more similar than they were then later admitted to this probably because he got legal threats. I even compared to the models myself two years ago when that was being talked about to confirm that they weren't identical and... surprise! They weren't similar at all from the topology... I wasn't the only person to do this.
>>744501361>>Releases a trading card game and rips the assets from your TCG for that tooWhat's with Palworld fans and only knowing pokemon? Clearly the Palworld tcg takes more from digimon and one piece.
>See it's OBVIOUSLY a ripoff even though it's not obvious enough to actually sue but that doesn't actually matter because it's so obvious and actually nintendo won the moral victory in the end and that's what mattersPretend I posted that meme gif of that fat dude with the whiteboard.
Nintendo deserves to lose. Vague concepts such as animal-like creatures and throwing a ball should not be something that can get you sued.
>>744506185>The guy who tried to claim they were copied purposefully doctored the models to make them more similar than they were then later admitted to this probably because he got legal threatsThis is wrong by the way.The guy who compared the models only said he scaled them to be the correct for the purpose of comparison, in other words he didn't actually change any of the proportions of the models and other than the size they're the exact same as the ones you would see in game.Palworld fans then harassed the guy and made fake tweets and videos to claim he edited them.
>>744506430And they aren't after all that's not what they're suing them for.
>>744506490>that copeKek
>>744506185Pocketpair literally ripped pokemon 3ds models and just imported them into Palworld.
>>744506694Yeah, Palworld fans are pretty pathetic.
Palworld WON
>>744506772>keep copingLmao
Honestly I hope Nintendo win the lawsuit.Pocketpair is basically polluting the industry in the same way AI is in that it's telling others that they can be successful with a lazy clone of a game with a recognisable artstyle.
>>744501876>so it's not using "references" in the same way a fan artist wouldThat's literally what AI does though. An AI model doesn't change size as you feed it more and more training data because what it's doing is learning patterns from looking at pictures by changing weights between neural connections like an organic brain would. An AI model is a collection of interconnected neurons, the amount of neurons and connections remains the same, the only thing that changes with training is the weights between connections, and that doesn't "store" data in a traditional sense, it stores learned patterns, and the AI mixes those parterns to construct new images.
>HERE'S HOW NINTENDO CAN STILL DEFEAT THE EVIL PALWORLD
>>744506772Some anons disproved this a while ago. The topology flow is completely different for palworld's model.
>>744506490Bullshit.If you "scale" different parts of the model at different rates and then fix the seams. You are in fact editing the models and changing the proportions to force them to fit.
>>744507045Hell no dudeI had to watch several devs cut cool rival systems because they were infringing too close to the Nemesis system patent from Shadows of MordorAny company that patents game mechanics needs to be slapped across the face with bankruptcy
>>744507176>different ratesWhy are you saying things that no one did?
>>744507176Anon you can literally just scale it proportionately without "fixing the seams". Did you think they were just taking each model apart and then scaling them individually or something?
Imagine seething about Palworld every day all day for over 2 years straight, lmao.
>>744507187>I had to watch several devs cut cool rival systems because they were infringing too close to the Nemesis system patent from Shadows of MordorI guarantee you didn't mainly because most devs never saw a point in the nemesis system beyond the cheap gimmick. >Any company that patents game mechanics needs to be slapped across the face with bankruptcyAnon, that's quite literally the entire industry.
Nintendo has patent for cute monster/animal hybrids, OK?J-just shut up!
>>744507167>I know how to disprove it, I'll draw green lines in the wrong place!Palworld fans everyone.
>>744507313I don't see Square patenting 4 niggas in a row
>>744507306As opposed to seething about pokemon all day, every day for 2 years straight.Remember, this whole thing started because Palworld fans were offended about it being called a copy.
Tendies, it's time to get this through your heads:You lost, and you will keep losing.
>>744507389>Nintendo sued Palworld because Palworld fans got offendedSmartest tendie
>>744507373https://patents.justia.com/assignee/square-enix-co-ltdEnjoyAlso one of their patents is ATB gameplay or how you would see it, "taking turns".
>>744507389>No ulol, lmao.
>>744507484Trvth nvke
>>744507358Okay? draw the green lines the right place then.
>>744507493It certainly wasn't pokemon fans going on every pokemon tweet going>I'D RATHER PLAY PALWORLD IT LOOKS JUST LIKE POKEMON!
>>744507496Well they should burn too>expiredThey'll live today
>>744507695I dunno Bob looks alright
>>744507717Did you also know that the Katamari mechanic was patented?Almost everything you know was probably patented at one point and it never negatively impacted the industry.
>>744507828They need to go too
sex
>>744507867Yeah the pal designs are pure sex, is one of the many reasons why it is so successful.
>>744507828The problem with some of Nintendo's patent attemps were that they were too general and covered way too much under their umbrellas, which is why they were rejected by the patent office.Summoning a monster by throwing a ball is specific and fine, but they were trying to patent 1v1 tamed monster battles too.
I think you Palworld fans need this
>>744507968>Nintendo invented coding
>>744507968you telling me palworld copied pokemon's physics-based throw summon and ported it to UE5?
>>744507967Yeah none of that is true. You can't have a general patent because it doesn't cover a concept but rather how you've executed said concept.>but they were trying to patent 1v1 tamed monster battles too.Which they weren't at any point because that isn't how patent work.
>>744508053yeah it was rejected because of that
>>744508250No, no it wasn't.In fact some of the rejections have been vague themselves. Like the US ones were basically rejected because the USPTO wanted to appear as a competent group, which backfired.The recent JP one was rejected not because the idea was already used in the past but because the examiner believed that anyone could make it which of course is the point of inventing.
>>744507045>take the most basic idea of pokemon (going around the world catching monsters in balls)>make every monster have its own personality through custom animations for everything they do>make attacks have impressive animations depending on how powerful they are (look at the fat bird flying from a tsunami meme)>meanwhile nintendo keeps cutting more and more corners on every new game because they know fans will buy anything they do anywayIf anything, Palworld is saving the genre from how shitty Nintendo has made it. They never touched upon the potential the series had from the start so it's only right that someone more capable does it.
>>744508327i saw the patent dude, you can't fool me
>>744506757Telling a lie over and over doesn't make it true, no matter how many times you say it. Show some proof or fuck off.
>>744501361Nintendo wasn't doing it to win, it was doing it to try and bankrupt Pocket pair with fighting lawsuits. I doubt it's properly over, either
>>744508467>spend millions>they MIGHT win like 30k back if they're lucky>meanwhile palworld is bigger than it's ever beenwell well well
>>744508581Still, Pocketpair has less money they can afford on legal battles, if this lawsuit ends and Nintendo decides to start another one for several more years that could be pretty bad
>>744508460>Telling a lie over and over doesn't make it true, no matter how many times you say it.Clearly it does as you can see by how many people believe this. >>744508413
>>744508467>, it was doing it to try and bankrupt Pocket pair with fighting lawsuits.You don't do that with a single lawsuit anon. You need to file multiple like Sony did with Bleem.Nintendo's objective is clearly to win and maintain creative integrity.
>>744508413>Palworld is saving the genre from how shitty Nintendo has made it.Yep, totally.Everyone is rehashing Palworld because of how easy it is and creativity has fallen in the genre, but they did "save it".
>>744508721That won't happen, pokemon took their shot. The legal system isn't just some robot machine that will run your new case obediently every time, it's full of people whose time you are now wasting and who are getting tired of your bullshit and will just start outright rejecting your cases without pocketpair even needing to mount a defense. The legal battle is in it's last death throes and it can't just be endlessly resurrected, this particular chapter will end.
>>744501361>pokemon owns monster gamesIt's just seems like that because pokemon is so successful. Anyone could have made a game at any time and nothing was stopping them.
>>744508878Isn't that what people want?If a new game that actually looks good spawns from this, then we can only benefit
I literally just stood up from my gaming sofa and said, "KINO!". Why can't nintendo with it's billions of dollars and thousands of devs make something like this?
>>744504246Okay but I'm still going to say they're made using AI
>>744508413No not really. It's ARK without PvP and tribes.
Look how big he is.
>>744508985>Isn't that what people wantNo. No one with standards wants this because it's never going to spawn a good game. It's endless copying of copies.
>>744509116Pokemon if it wasn't low effort trash and you could actually live in a pokemon worldArk is if it was actually fun. Complete Palworld Kino.>>744509071This is the highlight by far of the entire game.
>>744509205Nah ARK mogs it easily
>>744509250lollmao
>>744509186People WANT 3D monster catching games when fight with your monsters in real time>endless copying of copiesLiterally meaningless, there are literally tens of thousands of copies of Vampire Survivor and people only talk about the good ones
You can even stand on top of him.
>>744509334>People WANT 3D monster catching games when fight with your monsters in real timeClearly not otherwise they would have bought the other vastly superior ones that existed before, even spectrobes had a better battle system than Palworld.Instead being the brandwhores they are they only bought Palworld because it looked like pokemon and justified tossing away their standards by saying it'll "improve" pokemon, instead it's making everything worse.
>>744509334>there are literally tens of thousands of copies of Vampire Survivor and people only talk about the good onesNTA but that's literally proving the point. That genre is dead because they're all just copying one thing over and over again.
>>744509740Anon I would kill for a new Spectrobes game, this is what I'm talking aboutIf more monster collecting games spawns from Palworld's success, both me and you would only benefit>>744509807I want more games that are like games I like, simple asDeep Rock Galactic Survivor, Vital Shell, and Picayune Dreams are my favoritesI hate vtubers but Holocure is supposed to be good too
>>744507306>2 years straightThey will be still seething about it on their death bed.The few of them that will reproduce will pass on the trauma to their progeny, lolohoax-survivor-style.Nintendies' descendants seething about Palworld will still be a thing even after WW8 rewind mankind to the stone age again, and no one even remember what a game console or Japan is.And with hatred leaving longer-lasting scars than love, Nintendies will unwillingly ensure that the memory of Palworld outlive the memory of Pokémon.
>>744510184You lot are the most disingenuous people I've ever seen. If anyone ever calls you out for your lack of support your only response is something like>oh I always liked it so I'm going to keep on doing the thing that killed it in the first place!
>>744510317So you're saying palfags are like Jews, using a greatly exaggerated event that was a result of their own actions as justification of their behavior.
>>744510606Wrong post?
>>744510843Case in point.
>>744507968No one is ever going to copy-paste Gamefreak's dogshit "can't run N64-tier games on a console ten times more powerful at more than 20fps" code, Anon...
>>744510184>both me and you would only benefitThere's literally no benefit to anyone who actually likes monster tamers. Palworld is barely a monster tamer as it is since you have almost no control over your Pals.
>>744510668>So you're saying [opposite of what was said]Oh boy, we have an actual Nintendo lawyer in the thread. Hope this one work better than the current trial.
>>744511296Anon, he's making fun of you.
>>744511152You also don't have control in Yo-kai Watch games either, but that's considered a monster taming game as well. And that was pretty successful for a time. So much so that Pokemon gen VII got influenced by it, both the game and anime.
>>744504246I can’t believe people are pretending not to know what uniform scaling isLike do people think you can decrease a game’s file size by just scaling down all the assets by a factor of 10 and moving the camera closer?
>>744511343Possible, but I have seen so many egregious bad faith takes from the gamefreak defense force...
>>744511096I don't know what "lack of support" means, you mean supporting the company?>>744511152Obviously if you only like commanding monsters, you won't like this, but people got into Palworld because of the monster catchingI'm ignoring content creators and their fans that only buy into the hype and pokemon hate like asmongold and you should too
>>744511637The point he’s making i think is that by supporting Palworld what you’re signaling is>I don’t want anything new. I want legally distinct Pokemon endlessly recycled into existing gamesWhich is what happened to vampire survivors, endless shitty clones. You had devs lamenting that their darling indie game bombed while their shitty vampire survivors knockoff outsold it hundreds of times over
Palworld TCG is dead, btw.Subhumans already got to it.
>>744511883nta but those devs should use their vampire survivors clone to promote their original gameto lament popularity is folly
>>744501361Paltrannies really need to cry about Nintendo in every OP, or they won't get any discussion about their crappy game. >>Sue them for patent infringement on a single mechanic from Pokemon...Go.Nothing to do with Pokemon Go.>>Lose, obv.The first hearing is in October.Why is that Paltrannies screech the loudest but have zero awareness of what's happening? Every fucking time.
>>744501361Making shit up, on MY Mongolian basket-weaving forum?
>>744511883Can't I like both? New games and clones of others? A dev that has their own vision isn't going to be making a 1-to-1 clone anywayThe monster taming genre right now is entirely turn-based RPGs, and that's fine. My favorite game from this year was MH Stories 3 and I play Siralim Ultimate on my phone at workIf Palworld makes more devs create real-time monster collecting games, then I'm all for that because they're rare in general
>>744503556It kinda did but it was stuff like neural blender
>>744511421>You also don't have control in Yo-kai Watch games eitherYeah.There's only one problem, you do actually have some control, having auto attacks doesn't mean other options don't exist. It's like Xenoblade in that regard.
>>744501361Based!Everyone who takes a jab at Nintendo BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY is good in my book,The only thing that would be incredibly more based is to give the Nintendo HQ the Johnny Silverhand treatment.
>>744509072>I'm still going to be a faggot retard
>>744512535It is a valid tactic against undeniable evidence that BTFOs: just deny it with a "nuh-uh". Not a good tactic, but very fucking funny.
>>744507695>literally whoPeople were demanding Nintendo sue them before the game even came out.
>>744512676Which they weren't. The calls to sue were mostly from Palworld fans going "Nintendo would have sued them if they actually stole!"
>>744512730>fans want the thing they support to suffer cuz I dunno lolz or something ????
>>744512730>pokefag just straight lying now
>>744512730Gamefreaktards mix of total delusion while having 0 skills in pilpul is hugely entertaining.
>>744512809Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit, is it.Then again, you're a Palworld fan. It's not like you're capable of doing anything on your own, that's why your playing a game that plays itself.
>>744512890>game that plays itselfThis isn't a snoy moviegame
So for every one pokefag there's like 3 angry palfags by the looks of it.
>>744512980You're right, it's Palworld. If Sony made it you would have hated it.
>>744511152I think you have "enough" control, like you have the ability to command them to use an exact move when you want, but you have the ability to change the moves they use and their disposition. if you want the pal to not attack and just tank without ever fighting back, just set them to peaceful mode in the wheel menu, if you want them to attack everything on sight automatically change it to aggressive, and so onand now you have the lock on to tell them to focus on one enemyyou can select the 3 moves they will use in the pal menu so you can select the ones that you think fit/synergize the mostin the end you're fighting alongside your pals, unlike other monster tamers where you just sit back. knowing when to recall your pals might fight is important since they barely dodge attacks otherwiseit is closer to digimon world in a sense
>>744513106>like you have the ability to command them to use an exact move when you want,*you don't have
>>744512983If you say blatantly untrue things about something, more people are likely to stop lurking and speak up.
>>744513106I don't think you understand the difference between control and customization.You could do the same things in persona 3 but no one would try to say that you had control over your party members until P3P.
Tendies aren't human and deserve every humiliation.
>>744513034>If moviegame company made it you would have hated itI mean...
>>744513208Nah, Palworld fans lie all the time but hardly anyone cares enough to call them out but if you tell the truth about Palworld and Pocketpair you get tons of Palworld fans trying to suppress it. For example >>744506185 this is a lie in defense of Palworld but it doesn't have nearly the amount of responses as a truth that hurts Palworld.
>>744513323So you're saying Palworld is a movie game.
>>744513493No, because Sony didn't make itYou can tell Sony didn't make it, because there are very few cutscenes
>>744513529Anon, this is you >>744513323Saying if Sony made that exact game you would see it as a movie game ergo you think Palworld is a movie game
Is this the part where the fun ends and grind begins like people have been saying.Being able to farm only for ten seconds after using the thing seems really unnecessary i just hope it will be easy to acquire it. This area is pretty freaking beautiful though.
>>744513565>inb4 the ESL "it doesn't have the exact words so the meaning is different" thing
>>744513565>Saying if Sony made that exact gameNobody said this except for you just now
>>744513617If it were filled with those crystals I'd say it would be getting close to beautiful but as it is it's just a drab quarry.I've seen wii games with better scenery.
>>744501361It's pretty impressive how close to the sun this blatant aesthetic knockoff of a series has flown. I'll give it that.
>>744513565And I'll say it againNo, because Sony didn't make itYou can tell Sony didn't make it, because there are very few cutscenes
>>744513642Called it.
People do know that Sony has like 10 different branches beside Playstation, right?
>>744513719If the only thing that changes your view is the brand name then you just see it as a movie game.
>>744513826Okay? What are you even trying to say?We're on the video game board, in a thread about video games, why would Sony refer to anything other than their video game branch?
>>744503872More to the point, proving infringement would've necessarily drawn a line in the sand where the bounds of their property begin and end, and given the fact that the series' visual identity is as simple as "animals drawn by ken sugimori" it almost certainly wouldn't have gone in their favour much as it didn't when Games Workshop tried it.
>>744513907I'll go furtherIt is IMPOSSIBLE for Sony to make a game like this, because Sony only makes movie games
>>744514250Which is a lie, they've made many games that play themselves.
>>744513690It's a generic Japanese environment but it's not a quarry, it's the bismuth blocks of 2020's Japanese unoriginality.
>>744514532It's a generic quarry anon. Dress it up as much as you want but it's a dime a dozen location.
>>744513961Because Sony playstation has nothing to do with Palworld and is not bankrolling it's merch, tcg and anime?
>>744501876palworld does not use ai for its designs
>>744507306What alarms me more is the absolute cult-like obsession some people have here with obsessively defending Nintendo. News flash, Nintendo doesn't give a fuck about you beyond pretending to care to take your money, and you defend it like it's your own flesh and blood? What the fuck.
>>744514489This game plays itself like Factorio plays itself: only true after you grind a billion years, study and achieve an engineering degree, and earn it.
>>744513617I love Celesdir and her fat ass
>>744514904>What alarms me more is the absolute cult-like obsession some people have here with obsessively defending NintendoWhat's even more alarming is how many people actually believe this.Any factual statement that doesn't paint Nintendo negatively is deemed a defense rather than a simple factual statement.If Nintendo said 1+1 is 2 I wouldn't be surprised if you lot said it was 3 out of sheer spite.
>>744514970You wish it had the complexity of factorio. It's just a simplified Ark
>>744503836You do know it’s not just AI that can mimic but not directly copy designs right? People can do that. Skylanders has many characters that are obviously direct theft from existing IPs but are ever so slightly modified, and it predates AI.
>>744515118>must defend billion dollar corporation trying to patent gliding and vehicules
>>744515118Gee, sorry I'm not very open to hearing out Nintendo considering they are suing based on patents of game mechanics, which is a bullshit concept and you know it.
>>744515104Please don't talk about my wife that way.
>>744515464>>744515614Two very good examples of what I just talked about.
>>744515614You only think it's bullshit because it's Nintendo this time, be honest. You didn't bat an eye at any other case with any other company prior.
>>744504658He's scared of being sued. That's the kind of post that could get someone skewered
>>744515797You know that admitting he faked it would give them MORE of a reason to sue, not less, right?Not that the guy said he edited them, that's just a lie spread around the Palworld fanbase.
>>744515764No, I played Shadow of War, and I also felt it was an injustice that the interesting way they handled how characters remember your actions is patented and sits collecting dust cuz everyone is too scared to try recreating it.
>>744515764Can you name another company trying to patent basic ass game mechanics because other company released a successful game? I bet you fucking can't.
Not sure if trolling or if tendies really are this deranged, considering that they shit in diapers it might really be the latter.
>>744503073>3) What you say
>>744516012So this is where I name a company like Capcom or Sony and you say that they don't count.
>>744501953Where have you been these last 50 years? Lawyers are a pretty much everywhere in muttmerica
>>744516212>I could do it>But i won't because... i won't okay?
>>744513232git gud
>>744515118Oh look here's one of the cultists. Parasocial relationships are bad btw.
>>744516262>name some companies I bet you can't!>here are two companies, you'll say they won't count>heh, I'll say he didn't say any companiesThank you for proving my point.
>>744516369Name an actual example, you stupid retard dishonest fuck.
>>744516369You can't give a corporation and just expect me to know what the fuck you're talking about. You're gonna need examples.
>>744516403You're calling me dishonest after the shit you just pulled?The fact that you don't know what they own proves the point that none of you cared in the first place. Hell Capcom won a case with koei like three years ago and no a peep.>>744516456That's the entire point of this conversation anon. >>744515764>You didn't bat an eye at any other case with any other company prior.
>>744516369this is exactly why nintenigger cultists are hated, they just pull the most disingenuous kike like behavior when it comes to defend NINTENDO-SAMA
>>744515629You aren't the only one with a dir wife
>>744516493By the way, I can't wait for your justification of the Koei v Capcom case and how their patents can't be considered generic
>>744516493NAME A FUCKING CASE WHERE A COMPANY TRIED TO PATENT A BASIC GAME MECHANIC OR SHUT THE FUCK UP.
>>744516525Not that this can be considered a defense for Nintendo as much as its pointing out your obvious cult-like bias.After all, I'm not saying Nintendo is in the right or wrong, I'm saying you didn't care until Nintendo did it and all of the replies so far proved that.
>>744516552>koei v. capcomYeah, the case was bullshit and shouldn't have gone that way.There, I dismantled your argument.
>>744516638>here's a case>NAME A CASE THAT ONE DOESN'T COUNTCome on kiddo, you can read can't you?>>744516665Sure.The only problem is that you didn't know anything about it until I mentioned it
You lost Pokanny.
>>744501361>Malicious imitator blatantly rips assets directly out of your games and launders them through AI to pass them off as original designs>How AI looked in 2021 when Palworld was announced
Reminder. THIS. IS. REVENGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm so glad nintendo lost.
>>744517015Brought down by some slop fangame they missed, very funny fate
This is a Dupin thread.
>>744517107Whats all that spit from...
>>744517127magic
>>744517246I want Dulpin to show me how she makes things disappear!
You Palworld fans are a strange sort, it's either brand worship or monster fucking isn't it.
>>744517310so not so different from pokemon after all
>>744517310Pokemon fans and palworld fans can both agree fucking the animals is the best part. 'The enemy of our enemy is our friend' and our shared enemy is human women.
>>744517348>>744517363Oh yeah and a pokemon obsession.
>>744517310pokemon
>>744517515She gives thighjobs to trainers who stare too long
>>744517363make porn, not war
>>744501953/vp/ is defacto the Law & Legal board of 4chan since Palworld.>many /vp/oreons there are actual lawyers, half are on IP & business law specialty.>the others are graduates of finance & commerce college majors. No wonder most of their lifestyle are shit. Nintendo is the Apple of gaming world, and Pokemon is the Apple of Apple in Nintendo (Nintendo could legit try launch their own smartphone & PC with their own close sourced OS and it'll legit eat Apple's marketshare)>the others are underages that throw temper tantrum over facts that don't match their feelingsi saw anons there switched major from pre-vet undergraduate to pre-law only because of palworld>>744503073Pokemon is already at too big to fail phasw where they just slack around and the money keeps flowing with shitty games>
>>744501361>Malicious imitator blatantly rips assets directly out of your gameGenshin Impact?
>looks inside this thread>its just the same one guy trying to push "They are the ccp or ai golem allegations despite the proof being just nothing burgers how much is pokemon paying these people?
>>744517947Not as much as Pocketpair is paying them to falseflag evidently.
>>744517947It's revenge, they work for free
>>744518028but like whats the revenge? they can still play and pay for pokemon games what makes them think palworld stops them from that?>>744517995 what reason would pocketpair need to false flag they are in a good position the real question is why do you care about this game?
>>744518319what are her thoughts on human men
>>744518342She loves it
Pokemon lostNintendo lostMonopoly lostCensorship lostPalworld wonArtistic freedom wonDeal with it
>>744518253>what reason would pocketpair need to false flag they are in a good positionNot really. They have a small cult defending them but generally they're not viewed in the best light especially in America and Japan where copying isn't viewed highly. That's why they had to pull the small indie card well after they established their many deals.
>>744518532>Artistic freedom won>PalworldPick one
>>744517303She does excellent magic tricks
>>744517107Sex pest!
>>744518539The amount of cope you're on is hilarious and somewhat sad
>>744503073I think some autistic pokéfag got the ear of some braindead major investor who pushed for lawsuits, it's too much of a PR disaster for anybody at Nintendo itself to think it a good idea
>>744519007See what I mean
>>744501361>Rips assets directly out of your games and launders them through ai to pass them off as original Top fucking kek. You still are trying to push this shit??
>>744518771I'd demand proof but it's a blue board
>>744519053Anon, no investor would push for a lawsuit that lose them money.>PR disaster for anybody at Nintendo itself to think it a good ideaHere's the thing, it hasn't really done anything to their reputation. You have the people who know what they're doing isn't malicious and is just what you have to do when you own IPs, then you have the group that just doesn't care and just want the games and then you have the small group of people who constantly try to paint them as more evil than anyone else who never succeed because a small amount of research basically debunk everything they try to push.That last group is considerably louder but not really impactful. In fact, I would say that they're doing more harm to their agenda than anything else, look at how people use Nintendeen and Arlo as examples of anti-Nintendo grifters.
>>744507187>I had to watch several devs cut cool rival systems because they were infringing too close to the Nemesis system patent from Shadows of MordorWhich games?
>>744515118>If Nintendo said 1+1 is 2--that mean they are trying to patent additions and everyone should rightfully shit on them for it, yes.
>>744519103>N-no u!I accept your concession
>>744519706thighs!
>>744519857>disappointed tired eyesbest part
>>744519685
>>744517713>Crotch fluffMy weakness
>>744518539>not viewed in the best light especially in America and Japan>retard thats only chronically online and wants to see what he wants to seeyeah, people don't approve of that but thats not necessarily huge fucking issue like most games that do actual bad shit like wildcard reselling a already existing code under a new skin, or the day before releasing a game in shitty state with none of the shit promised in its trailers and then running off with said money, or even activision having rape allegations, your basically saying its on the same level as that, when it really isn't also japanese are kikes that slurp up every isekai, romance, and fucking cultivation manwha despite being the most blandest piece media ever also being jerks when it comes to things that aren't even serious, they are the most melodramatic people in the ethnicity gene pool
Just entered the world tree.What's up with all the "relics" enemies are dropping? Some endgame crafting material?
>>744519685>ignores a mechanic that predates them >their reason because it was a fangamei guess their statement about caring about people fan work was a lie since they have no problem to initiate patents for things that predate them
>>744516219Don't forget doctors and engineers
>>744520297>your basically saying its on the same level as that, when it really isn't No one said they were on the same level so I don't know where you're getting that from, that said it is a more notorious example due to the popularity of pokemon. Not to mention they were almost exclusively known for their theft before Palworld as it is with craftopia literally having reskinned moblins and bokoblins. >also japanese are kikes that slurp up every isekai, romance, and fucking cultivation manwhaAnon, there's a difference between existing in the same genre and copying. For example Digimon Adventure, Spirited Away, Escaflowne and that Shield Hero one are all isekai but you would have to be a literal brain dead retard to say that they're copying from each other.
>>744518539>>744519481>calls palworld a cult>immediately acts like a cult dude you do realize nintendo taking advantage of the patent office sets a bad example for the industry right? also Inb4 "WELL PALWORLD WILL CAUSE A BUNCH OF SOULLESS COPYCATS TO POP UP" thats a thing been happening since 1899 there is no fixing that, and nintendo/pokemon's lawsuit isn't going to fix that, there are literal "games" with ai generated pikachus on their thumbnail what makes you think they give a shit about nintendo's lawsuit?
>>744520760Talking in a factual manner is hardly cult-like by any stretch of the imagination. I would say that fits you more than anything given you believe this>dude you do realize nintendo taking advantage of the patent office sets a bad example for the industry rightWould happen if they win. The reality is that any precedent that could be set by their win was already set years ago in other patent cases so their win would be harmless to everyone other than Pocketpair and as consumers we don't lose anything if they do.
Fuck modern Nintendo.If Iwata were still around there would have never been a lawsuit.
>>744520365Its gatcha box
>>744520670>No one said they were on the same level so I don't know where you're getting that from, that said it is a more notorious example due to the popularity of pokemon. Not to mention they were almost exclusively known for their theft before Palworld as it is with craftopia literally having reskinned moblins and bokoblins.no one is defending that but that doesn't automatically justify nintendo making predated patents the best option to do is to make them do better not through shady ass patents but through feedback, also they had problem they would've done that years ago, but now its suddenly problem to you guys, i got to go but i don't really care about 4chan drama since they are actually improving themselves and taking those unoriginal design criticism to heart
>>744520760>dude you do realize nintendo taking advantage of the patent office sets a bad example for the industry rightIt wouldn't. >>744521136>but that doesn't automatically justify nintendo making predated patents the best option to do is to make them do better not through shady ass patents but through feedbackCan someone translate this?
LOLOL
>>744521073You're right, he would have just slammed them with a dmca before they had the chance.
>>744521136I'm not even sure what you're trying to say here. Predated patents? I mean, the patents were filed well before the release of Palworld and before they even showed them in a trailer so yeah they do predate Palworld and that's kind of why they can sue them.I assume this part>the best option to do is to make them do better not through shady ass patentsIs you trying to say that Nintendo should act in a way that forces them to improve but that's what this case is for and why they sued them for such a paltry amount, to show them that it's not allowed and that they should try to be more creative.>since they are actually improving themselves and taking those unoriginal design criticism to heartIf only that were true, until we see their next game we won't know if they've actually learned their lesson.
>>744513617More or less, yeah.You could power through and finish the story as is with your current getup though. Any material grinding from here on is mostly for schematics and awakening material, which is needed if you want to do hard mode content (post game)
>Pokemon invented animals>Pokemon invented cards>Pokemon invented eyesHow is it possible for pokecucks to be this retarded?
The thing that gets me about this whole thing is that people are only defending Palworld to spite Nintendo.Just look at that other game that's making the rounds, it's a KH rip off more so than Palworld is for Ark and Pokemon and no one is trying to claim it's original or deny that it's a rip off.
>>744518532>Artistic freedom wonIt sure as hell did not lmao.
>>744518532>Artistic freedom wonExtremely true
>>744522914>hating nintendo is bad>why?>...> >:(
>>744523951You don't even know why you hate Nintendo.
Why are people itt acting like Pokemon is holding back other monster catching games when the reality is there are countless of them ever since Pokemon first conquered the genre and they all failed due to sucking miserably? I can't think of a single one that Nintendo actually sued out of existence. This particular knock-off is faring better atm because it was released for free and panders to edgy retards who hate Pokemon but think "with guns" makes it badass enough for them to play for hours on end while defending its non-existent honor on the Internet. For the most part though, it's a Skibidi Toilet tier meme product.
>>744524004He's probably going to say something generic that every company does and say they're evil for it.
>>744524069Palworld was never free.
>>744524004They are lazy and greedy, and make subpar games propped up by console warriors who snap and accuse you of being a snoy at the drop of a hat, and have nosedived multiple franchises due to their complete tonedeaf approach to game design.This does not mean that i am defending sony or microsoft, nor does it vindicate them of doing the same thing, before you try that obvious strawman.
>>744524082Sony does all of these things too, and they deserve hate for it.
>>744524148In other words you hate them for reasons you made up. I'll give you your "lazy" opinion since hey, it's an opinion but the console warrior part has never been true to the point where you have to have people like ACfag pretending to be Nintendo fans because they're just not giving you people material.
>>744501361>Malicious imitator blatantly rips assets directly out of your games and launders them through AI to pass them off as original designs>Makes no effort to hide or refute this whatsoever>Releases a trading card game and rips the assets from your TCG for that too>Stares you in the face and pisses on your leg for two yearsLiterally all of that is a lie lmfao. Tendies aren't even trying anymore
>>744524148>>744524206Why are you obsessing over Sony?Also learn what a strawman is.
>>744524317Yeah Palworld fans aren't bringing their best with this falseflagging.
>>744524274>nintendo fans aren't console warriorsFamitsu threads say hi.
>>744521268Pokesisters I don't feel so good...
Not going to read the entire thread but I assume the tendie made his little "it's the Palfags who started it" tirade. The tendies really like to employ tactics from a certain group like "repeat a lie often enough..." huh?
>>744524551You mean the threads that had such little console warring that people who hated Nintendo had to spam them in order to get them banned only for a /biz/ mod to slap a /v/ mod's shit in because it was not only off topic in /biz/ but was obviously a falseflag?Tell me more about how that proves your point and not mine.
>>744524069Yep Palworld mindbroke this pokedrone alright
>>744524684>famitsu threads had such little console warring>he actually believes this
>>744524663What, not man enough to say Jew?It's very jewish of you to say that others are doing what you're doing by the way. After all it's not tendies trying to claim scaling is a wholesale edit, that Nintendo lost an ongoing lawsuit and that patents cover concepts as a whole.
only retarded zoomers talk about "Nintendo Ninjas". Real Gs remember Nintendo losing to the fucking Micro Machine people in the 90's. Nintendo getting BTFO by Pocketpair (euphemism for BALLS) is on brand as fuck.
Palworld Won
>>744524684The whole reason those threads even started was due to console warring
>>744524781So where's the pro Nintendo console warring in them? Can you provide evidence?
Based palworld.Get fucked nintendo.
>>744524928Yeah, pro Sony console warring.Then when Sony started losing relevance in Japan and the console warring behind it disappeared suddenly it became Nintendo console warring and bad despite the shitposting all coming from people who hate Nintendo. Strange isn't it.
>>744524891>Real Gs remember Nintendo losing to the fucking Micro Machine people in the 90's.Do YOU remember it?
>>744524896Mating press this panda
>>744524896What are her thoughts on human men and or boys
>>744525107autistic people not being able to pick up on extremely obvious subtext is heartbreaking. I am sorry for your life.
>>744524941People have told you time and time again, but you refuse to listen. >our famitsu threads arent shitposting!>then why are you bringing up e celebs? Why are you calling people snoys every 5 seconds? Why are half the posts just the same rehashed copypastes in every single thread? How does "Eric lost and got raped" relevant to jp sales?>SHUT UP SNOYFunny thing, those threads also tried pushing lies about pocketpair, like how they are actually chinese and how theres factual proof that they stole pokemon designs (but you don't want to show it)
The tendie walked right into that one. Goes to show what political party he belongs to because that's his current party-approved talking point.
>>744525326Answer the question.
>palworld bad!>why>muh pokemon>even though there are plenty of games that are literally just Pokémon with a different skin>palworld isn't even a Pokémon clone, it's a fucking ark-like
>>744509671I want to stand on Dupin paws
>>744524896And her prize is my Dick
>>744525390>>then why are you bringing up e celebs? Why are you calling people snoys every 5 seconds? Why are half the posts just the same rehashed copypastes in every single thread? How does "Eric lost and got raped" relevant to jp sales?In other words this >>744524274>to have people like ACfag pretending to be Nintendo fans because they're just not giving you people material.>those threads also tried pushing lies about pocketpair, like how they are actually chinese You want to know something funny? That never happened in those threads, the idea that they ere chinese came from twitter and used as a defence.
>>744525046Yes, the threads are bad no matter who is "winning" because the shitposting never stopped.
>>744525528It's more.>Palworld the best it's better than pokemon!>why>pokemon bad!>how does that make Palworld good?>POKEMON BAD!>it doesn't even play like pokemon, it plays like ark>that's what we want pokemon to be like!
>no u
>>744525680>that never happened in those threadsAnd there we go. Now you're just gonna just outright lie to the thread. >nintendo fans never accused palworld of being chinese! That was a snoy falseflag!Like talking to a brick wall.
>>744525697Anon, the idea of "winning" disappeared when Sony lost relevance. That's why the shitposting shifted from>YEAH FUCK EVERYONE SONY WINS!to>Fuck Famitsu threads they're just spam we don't need themAnd the frequency of threads went from every day twice a week when they dropped.
Feels good being a PalChad
I appreciate palworld for eternally causing tendie seethe
>>744525780How many times have people explained the appeal of palworld? They like the idea of combat straying from typical, boring turn based combat and whatever slop ZA was. They also enjoy how pals legitmately feel different from eachother and function differently,whereas pokemon just feel like slightly different stat checks and nothing more. The idea of being able to build your own base is legit cool as well. You're gonna accuse it of being an ark clone, but what if someone likes that? The benefits of ARK without the issues it comes saddled with.
PalGODS run this board, go back to your containment board if you want to talk about pokewho.
>>744525848>Now you're just gonna just outright lie to the thread.Hey, you're the one without evidence. You can't even use the Eric line because he's been caught posting with his trip on.>Like talking to a brick wall.It's almost as if lying won't change facts.
>>744525894It was replaced by nintendo winning, and nintendo fans using those threads as a bludgeoning tool against every other fandom. You guys shit on palworld specifically by bringing up how much money pokemon makes, because you dont even care about the quality of the games themselves. Let me guess, was that also conveniently a snoy falseflag?
>>744525290Take a wild guess
>>744526102>How many times have people explained the appeal of palworld?Never. The only thing they usually say is that Pokemon is bad and they don't like turn based. After that it's usually coping about the graphics as if they mean anything or wanting to fuck the pals. When people talk about Palworld they never sing the praises of Palworld, they have to say something else is bad.They even tried it with digimon when time stranger dropped and they were laughed out of the threads.
>>744526241>Hey, you're the one without evidence.You have constantly been shown evidence of ritual posters spamming and shitposting famitsu threads, all being pro nintendo, and you constantly hide behind the same tired excuses.>um those are falseflags>and if they arent, then its okay because the mean ol snoys did it first
>>744526370I literally just explained the appeal of Palworld to you right now.
>>744526252>It was replaced by nintendo winning, and nintendo fans using those threads as a bludgeoning tool against every other fandomYeah, in your head.In reality Famitsu threads are never brought up outside of Famitsu threads unless people like you want to push the angle that there's pro-nintendo console warring.
>>744526370>Bringing up digimon The relationship between palchads and digichads is one of neutral respect.If either one attacks the other it is simply a pokedrone falseflag.
>>744524896Pure sex.
>>744526493>In reality Famitsu threads are never brought up outside of Famitsu threads You guys literally drag up famitsu sales anytime you want to win an argument. You wouldnt shut up about pokemon ZA sales for weeks whenever someone criticized the game for being lackluster. You drowned out any attempt to bring up the games flaws with pointless sales masturbation.
Have you noticed the tendie has just been going >no u this entire thread? Is this what tendies really have been reduced to?
>>744526328Peak..
>>744526847Their penchant for arguing leaves much to be desired. Are they still gonna try and pretend that pocketpair is secretly a chinese psyop? Always found that funny.
Chink game
>>744526470No you didn't. You started off saying pokemon is bad and then just rambled about how pals different without saying how, not that you can because they're related to automated functions, and base building again without going into any real detail. "legit and cool" doesn't mean anything. Like do you even enjoy Palworld if you can't say a thing about it?Like off the top of my head I love Viewtiful Joe not just stylistically and thematically because it appeals to my love of Tokusatsu but slow and match speed mechanics are brilliant in how they used it for combat and exploration. Like small explosions can be turned into massive ones just by slowing it down and having the effect linger and mach speed allows you to hit things in the background like a chest that might contain a v-reel. Everything has purpose in that game don't get me started in the music and how the boss intro music just blends perfectly into every boss theme. Anyway I'm rambling, point is I can go into detail for days because I actually like the game, I could do it for other ones like BoF3, Xenoverse 2, S3nK, Disgaea 4 and so on, you on the other talk like someone who's being paid to say Palworld is good who has no experience with it whatsoever just saying vague nonsense hoping people will buy it.
>>744526768Is that why you can't post a screenshot of any of this happening?Meanwhile you were the one mentioned Famitsu threads in the first place here so my point is already proven.
>>744526102>They like the idea of combat straying from typical, boring turn based combatPalworld's "combat" is just the pals throwing hitboxes at each other.
>>744526587>The relationship between palchads and digichads is one of neutral respect.Yeah fuck off. You shat in our threads just like you did pokemon.
>>744501361PalGODS wonCope and seethe
>>744527539He's probably never played Palworld so he's not aware that you don't actually control the pals and it's like 90% TPS.
>>744527539>>744527354>nobody says why they like palworld> i just did>THAT DOESN'T COUNT
>>744527665>using an image in the same thread it was used on youLike company like fan huh.
>>744527547Of course the pokedrone gets mad when exposed.
>>744527539>he says when you can't even control pals
>>744526370You've been seething hard about Palworld this entire thread. Maybe you need a break from the internet lil zoom.
>>744527475>show me proof, so i can accuse it of being a snoy falseflag, because that's my only defense against anything that makes me look bad
>>744527747Did nintendo patent the use of reaction images? Uh oh, someone call the lawyers.
>>744527747Now if you were a palfag this would be b the part where you samefag this post into oblivion and screenshot it to repost.
>>744527354Well, I like Palworld because all the systems feed into each other really well. I catch a few Pals to help with combat, but now I need to feed them. So I make a farm but it's a pain to maintain myself so I need to go catch more Pals to run it. But now I need more beds so I build a logging site to auto.ate resource gathering. Now I have enough resources to make better equipment so I can go into higher-level areas and catch better Pals, etc. etc. It hits me the same way Fantasy Life does.But I doubt you'll accept that. I'm curious how you'll strawman my answer.
>>744527932Don't have anything do you.
>>744527628>>744527813>Doesn't even know basic game mechanicsPokedrones aren't sending their best
>>744501361>Malicious imitator blatantly rips assets directly out of your games and launders them through AI to pass them off as original designsNever happened thoughever.
>>744528062Famitsu threads every week. You're welcome.
>>744501953If that Negress can make it to the Supreme Court, anyone can
Pal Domination
>>744503408Yeah but they never used AI so that argument kinda falls apart.
>>744528039>I'm curious how you'll strawman my answer.You like say this phrase don't you.Regardless you're still not going into any real detail. You're just going>I need this so I have to do this, which means I have to do thisI mean, you could do the same thing with a basic game like Sonic.I need to collect 50 rings to get into the special stage so I platform across the level, but I need more for a life and there's some on a loop so I use the moving platform and do a running jump and I have all the rings that were up there. That's nothing.Granted if you actually did go into detail then it would mostly be complaining about how tedious the crafting process in Palworld is.
>>744528219Post it then. Prove you point.
>>744528420>tendie doesnt understand the process of a satisfying, self sustaining game loop
>>744527053She really is...
>>744528480When you can prove that pocketpair is chinese, and used AI to illegally steal pokemon designs, i'd be glad to.
>>744528420You didn't disappoint.
>>744528558I want to train with her! Until I collapse!
>>744504175>It is a big deal, actuallyWould've been had it actually happened.
>>744528517Ah, "game loop" one of the many nonsense phrases made up by kids who have no idea what they're talking about.Also don't act like Palworld is particularly satisfying or unique when that's just the progression every crafting game has.
>>744528558Agreed
>>744528517He said he's a Disgaea fan, so he's obviously aware and just blatantly pretending not to know what I'm talking about.
>>744528575Done.I've proved I never said they were Chinese or used AI by saying I never made that claim making your post irrelevant. Now post Famitsu talk outside of Famitsu threads that isn't just you lying.
>>744528731Criticizing vernacular you don't understand is only a "gotcha" if you're stupid.
>>744528731Anon, let me explain this simply, in a way that even a nintendo fan can understand.>game fosters a desire in a player>gives them tools to feed that desire>this leads to them wanting to do more>game gives you the tools to do so>every thing you do helps your other objectives>eventually you create a massive machine that feeds off of your effort, and produces effort in returnAre you getting it?
>>744528832>doneThen why didnt you condemn op for making those accusations? Sorry, you have to try harder than that.
>>744501361What does anything from this have to do with Palwolrd?
>>744528968>>744529017You don't have to samefag you know. You're not exactly changing the point in either postAnd before you say it 4chan passes and mobile data mean timers don't mean anything.
>>744529237>Samefagging tendie accuses others of samefaggingComedy gold
>>744529091Okay, I condemn your actions.
>>744529331Anon, that's what we call a "reply chain".
>>744502065>Not one single Pal design infringes on Pokémon's IPThe few cases the do people will look at it and say "This is literally a farm animal."
>>744529458So you refused to condemn op for 380 posts, and only do it now because you got called out, and you're not even condemning what he says, you're just making a baseless accusation of samefagging.
>>744529237>i ran out of rebuttals>uh>uh>samefag
>>744504246Anon....
>>744504842Dude, if Nintendo even had a snowballs chance in hell to sue Palwolrd over the designs they wouldBut they never did, curious
>>744529696I'm still waiting for you to go into actual detail. I can't exactly give you a rebuttal if you don't continue the argument.
Anyone notice how no one here is actually defending Nintendo or pokemon?
>>744501361I find it weird how Tendies are incapable of comprehending that the narrative they are trying to push being "it should be morally and objectively wrong to make anything that Nintendo's(already unoriginal mind you) resembles, because Nintendo just deserves the birthright privilege to own the entire genre of anything they decide to make a sloppy shovelware of" it's extremely retarded, and would have never had any chance because people who aren't terminally online are both literate and possess a fully developed frontal lobe.
>>744505354>Nintendo used actual expertsCan I get a job as one of those experts? I don't know much about law, but I would hirt the company significantly less by doing nothing
I just want one of these retards to prove Palworld was a flop without looking like a GaaSfag
>>744529957Because nintendo fans don't like video games. They just shitpost against other games. Sad.
>>744530023So you'd willingly hurt the company significantly more.
>>744530045Or, they just don't care about Palworld as much as you care about pokemon.
>>744530142>they dont care about palworld>he says in the 5th "seethe about palworld" thread today
>>744529902You're talking to the wrong anon bro
>>744530283I mean, given how the OP is trying to push the idea that Nintendo lost the lawsuit that's still going on its obvious he's a Palworld fan so we can confirm that they're making these threads.
>>744529902I went into detail. But I'll put it another way, for your benefit. Okay Disgaea fan, you know how when you start the postgame you'll have one half-decent unit, so you take him to gring the Ordeal map for an hour or two to get them to level 9999? And then you use that unit to run the Item World for Statisticians and good equipment, level up squads, etc. then use the spoils to make it way easier to get back to level 9999 in one shot? That's the same experience Palworld gives.
>>744530375I am certain you have proof of this?
>>744530431NTA but who the fuck ends Disgaea with one good character?
>>744530480You're asking for proof of this thread's OP.Think about that.
>>744530948Yeah, and only a nintendo fan would accuse palworld of theft with no basis for the accusation.
>>744531023Anon, only Palworld fans believe the lawsuit is over and clearly the OP believes it's over.
>>744531102Considering that nintendo will be lucky to even recoup 30k out of the 50 million they spent on the lawsuit, and they didnt even get a permanent injunction against the game that they wanted, it seems pretty over.
>>744531023>>744531102There's also this>Releases a trading card game and rips the assets from your TCG for that tooThe op not knowing how pokemon plays is a big tell.
>>744531243Nintendo fans believe that too. They will lie and shitpost just to attack palworld using any angle they can. Still not providing any kind of proof.
>>744531215You know japan has a loser pays rule right?That means if Nintendo win they get the 30k + damages.The same thing happened in Capcom case against koei where koei had to pay capcom's attorney fees.
>>744531389>Nintendo fans believe that too.Anon, Nintendo fans actually know how to play the pokemon tcg. Palworld fans being tertiary pokemon fans who only watched the anime only know the anime.
>>744504146Why are Nintendo man baby trannies so mad at a game that is better then anything pokemon has ever released? I mean its not even the best monster catching game on the game boys you fucking losers.
>>744531413Assuming they even win. When even the patent office is sick of nintendos frivolous claims, it kinda paints a poor light on nintendos case. >NO NO, HERE IS HOW NINTENDO CAN STILL WIN
>>744530087I don't think it's possible to hurt Nintendo more than their incompetent lawyers have.
>>744531471>nintendo fans play the tcgLol no they don't. They just buy up and scalp the cards.
>>744506757Show proof then faggot
>>744531595>Assuming they even win.Lets be honest, there's almost no way they won't . From what we know Pocketpair hasn't even really been arguing the case properly bringing up games that have the concept of throwing instead of mechanically similar games as well as trying to throw mods under the bus and trying to say that Nintendo's patents had poor wording to force them to change it.>When even the patent office is sick of nintendos frivolous claimsThey aren't. I don't know where you even got that from.
>>744530431As a disgaeafagThis is why I cum from PalworldExcept even better because the cool Rifle Demon who got you through the main story, is no longer dead weight afterwards. You send him to the farm and he cooks your ingots and you pet him and he calls you a fag but doesn't stop you.
>>744531649If that were the case the no one would be complaining about scalpers.
>>744501953>suddenlykeep on licking the boot tendiethis was obvious bullshit the moment they made it about patents
>>744531786>I don't know where you even got that fromThat rebuttal from the patent office, for starters
>>744531827>As a disgaeafag>This is why I cum from PalworldThey're like two different games and grinding in Disgaea means actively playing the game where Palworld is waiting.
>>744531786> as well as trying to throw mods under the busFunny thing, the patent office agreed with palworld and threw out one of nintendos patents because of a precedent set by a fangame video of all things.
>>744531843Nobody really is. Pokemon fans just treat the games and cards as nfts. Sell them for markup and never actually play the games.
>>744531939Completely different thing unrelated to the case mind you. That's about a 2026 patent and while the fangame was brought up no actual example of prior art was found.
>>744531920You can say or argue whatever you like, but my undies have cum in them regardless, and my noppai Etna mousepad supports my Palworld endeavors all the same
>>744501361The fact that Nintendo had to sue for bullshit patent infringement shit instead of asset theft means Palworld didn't actually steal any assets from Pokemon games.
>>744532000Anon, the scalpers aren't pokemon fans.
>>744532051The patent office seemed to disagree.
>>744531843The only real complaining about the scalpers is the sort of third hand embarrassment and offense at someone for doing something stupid. Nobody actually cares that they can't buy the newest sets, except slower scalpers. Even then, I see tons of pokemon cards just off the beaten path, in more fringe stores, and nobody's buying those. If people were actually looking for cards to play with, they would be all over those, but I have seen the exact same stack of cards rot on the shelf of my mall's weeb store for like 3 weeks.
>>744532202Care to prove that?
>>744532094Uh huh. Sure they arent. Just like how you are certain that pocketpair is chinese.
>>744532229>Even then, I see tons of pokemon cards just off the beaten path, in more fringe stores, and nobody's buying those.Gee I wonder why no one is buying from small unknown shops.
>>744532265It's weird how you Palworld fans are convinced that Pocketpair is Chinese.
>>744532303Because they aren't actually looking for cards out of an interest in them, they're trawling the big easy access stores to scalp
>>744501361AI wasnt nearly good enough when palworld to come out to make this claim. And your entire argument kinda hinges on that. Therefore...(you)
>>744524896Have tendies claimed that nintendo invented pandas and panda anthros yet?
>>744532243The patent office themselves rejected it due to there being proof of concept prior..
>>744532509Or actual fans aren't going to be looking in offline mom n' pop shops for stock that they don't expect to be there.Don't have any common sense do you.
>>744532581Can't be far off, they already tried to say they invented vehicles
>>744501361japanese artists have been ripping off each others designs and changing hair color for literally 40 years. none of the design shit would ever hold up in court because there are unlimited fucking examples of no one giving a shit in the country and it not effecting sales. Eat shit and die you corpo nigger and take your hanafuda card seller yakuza faggots with you to your grave
have modders made outfits or skins or whatever that work with the pal dressing station?
>>744532612Which they didn't. Almost all of the reasons they gave were>any skilled person can do this.
>>744532964And the patent office agreed. What are you not getting?
>>744532657Actually the exact opposite.It's not like these stores have no traffic, they have plenty. Pokemon is not a small fanbase, I would expect that, especially in something like a weeb oriented store, a good 1 in 2 walking in at all, are pokemon fans. And yet these cards are gathering dust. What I would expect, is that people looking to scalp cards are either only looking at the lowest common denominator stores, or only looking at places with a web presence so they can quickly scout ahead, and aren't wandering into stores they haven't heard of. And, this appears to line up with the distribution of cards stripped from shelves, and cards rotting on them is. But the actual rotting of cards means that regular people aren't buying them at all. It's not even like the shop isn't selling CARDS at all, they do slowly sell Force of Will and Weiss Shwarz cards. Not exactly fast, but they do move them.That glup shitto card games are moving inventory, but pokemon cards are not, I don't even entirely know what to make of that, besides pokemon people just don't play their card game.
>Strike gold with autismcrack japanese dog fighting collect-a-thon>Nose grows three times its original size as you file patents to copyright stuff like throwing balls or elemental fantasy animals>Milk the IP dry with the weakest, lowest effort, laziest, basic bitch games that get by on the name alone>Someone makes a similar game>Rather than welcoming the competition and stepping up to make better games, sue them>Lose>Still have a writing mass of fanboys that harass the new gameI wonder if they ever thought about suing baseball for having the gall to steal their ball throwing patent.
>>744533007You don't seem to understand how the patent office works. It's not a unanimously agreement with a group, it's one examiner and his opinion, that's why you can appeal.And your claim was that they found an example of prior art, that screenshot shows that prior art isn't a reason for any of their rejections.
>>744533175TLDR it's a niche shop and fans generally do not know that these shops exist.
>>744533208When did they sue digimon?
>>744533218>that's why they can appealSo... it got rejected. Like i said.
>>744533373Look, if you're going to be retarded on purpose just say so.I bet you Palworld fans are proud of having more chromosomes than the average person.
>>744532964YesThat is how patents work. Any process, technology, or other patented thing can be challenged on the grounds that it is something that can easily be independently invented. For something to be patented, and keep its patent, the process needs a sufficient degree of complexity, convolutedness, or otherwise non-intuitive design that it becomes incredibly unlikely that anyone would make it accidentally.Because for a patent to work, you need to PROVE that someone copied you, not independently came up with the same idea.If someone can prove they independently came up with your patented idea, then your patent does not apply to them. Patents only protect against deliberate, intentional copying, and because it is very difficult to argue intent in something like this, the next best solution is "if any reasonably experienced person in the field could come up with it, the patent is invalid"And the only reason this shit is getting dug up now, is software patents as a whole are basically a cluster fuck that nobody really knows how to handle, and are pretty much exclusively misused, because the people running these shows are overwhelmingly geriatrics.
>>744533517>nintendo fan accusing others of retardation
>>744533517Maybe if you tendies had more than the average you'd like Palworld.
>>744501361I am a subhuman retarded fat pedophile and say this
>>744533272If fans of goddamn Force of Will have no problems finding a shop, but Pokemon fans can't, that's a bigger condemnation of Pokemon as a fanbase than anything you could say about their proclivities towards card games.
>>744533718Oh my fucking god.I'm done.
>>744533859Back to your famitsu hugbox.
>>744533618>For something to be patented, and keep its patent, the process needs a sufficient degree of complexity, convolutedness, or otherwise non-intuitive design that it becomes incredibly unlikely that anyone would make it accidentally.This is wrong by the way. The many patented inventions that were created accidentally laugh at your argument.
>>744516195I want you to know I appreciated your post.
>>744534090Sure thing, sweetie. Palworld is surely doomed this time.
>>744534258This has nothing to do with Palworld.
>>744534090Yes, you can try and pass off an accident as a patent. It might even work. But, if too many people, or one or two well educated peipme, start getting hit with claims of infringement, and can collectively prove they weren't trying to copy you, your patent will almost assuredly come into review, and likely be denied. Like what is currently happening to Pokemon, funnily enough.
>>744501953every tendie thread since palworld has been like this, shit's hilarious"ripped assets" lmao open your eyeballs, retards
>>744502293>rather than actually get rid of the gamethey absolutely wanted to kill palworld in its crib, don't kid yourself
>>744519053the nintendo ceo is an autistic pokefag, he worked in tpc first
>>744533718kek you got him good.
>>744534905the reason nu nintendo is garbage
Why is my cute daughters fully condensed passive so horrifically overpowered?also, why does she "nya" when you select her in the party menu?
>>744534428>if too many people, or one or two well educated peipme, start getting hit with claims of infringement, and can collectively prove they weren't trying to copy youThat's not how that works otherwise copying and claiming you didn't would work in court every time and patent trolling in America would be far worse than it is. Generally you can't prove it either way, that said, this isn't a case of accidentally creating an easily combustible compound and putting it on a piece of wood, game mechanics can't accidentally be created in the same way. You might look at street fighter's combos and say otherwise but that came out of a single glitch where you could attack without allowing the opponent to react, a glitch wouldn't be able to produce a full touch based capture mechanic, maybe something minor like curling your shots.
>>744534905>>744535195Except that's a lie. He joined NoE in 1994 as an accountant, became an outside director of tpc in 2012, meaning he didn't actually work there and then, moved up in Nintendo until he became the CEO.
>>744535458Tl:dr your shitposting campaign lost. Pocketpair isnt chinese, they did not steal assets from nintendo, and you have been thoroughly humiliated.GG
>>744535408Based team btw
>>744536674Thanks.I sometimes make a change here or there, but it's mostly the same setup.
>>744501361>Tendie rectums are still bloody and rawKek. Revenge status?
>>744532362Did you have a stroke, anon?
>>744501361May I see it?
>>744518771Splatterina says she can do that, too!
>>744537279Very nice team.
>>744533859>3 inches is average, OK????>Shut up shut up shut upMost hung tendie ITT omg
>>744501361The funniest part of all this is Palworld probably would've ended up with a small cult following but Nintendo Streisand effected it into a full blown competitor
>>744543089Doubt it, Palworld had the crazy numbers before nintendo did anything.
>>744540181I wish she had a good combat passive because she has my favorite design in the game
>>744543223Something like a universal drop increase would be great, so she can at least be used in farming alongside element-specific drop pals.
>>744543203Maybe, but you can't deny the controversy gave them a lot of attention
>>744524896bald lmao
>>744535408Your team comp leads me to believe that you're a thigh guy
>>744501953More proof that /v/iggers will do literally anything besides play games
>>744501989This may be true...
>>744543746Sure, but the 2 mil players from the first early access launch was before the lawsuitI think the lawsuit happened sometime after the Sakurajima update
>>744506284lol!
>>744504246Oh...
>>744501361Are Nintendo Pokefags still mad about this? Yeah you gassed yourselves up and larped as lawyers with the knowledge of TikTok armchair scholars and mumbled something about "Japanese Courts" while posting screenshots of the biggest corporate slaves in existence (Japanese twitter posters aka NTR lovers) a year ago. PocketPal changed a few graphical effects and they kept their business instead of the insane larp that people thought they would be taken down. Maybe the fact that they kept getting business with big players and announcements on stages without being ousted should've let you known that discourse here wasn't reality. Get over it and make a steam playercount thread or something in a week.
>>744545738NTR lovers is irrelevant, whatever NTR means.
>>744545738>Are Nintendo Pokefags still mad about thisWere they mad in the first place? There's a palfag in the tcg thread trying his best to samefag as a pokefag even though he edited his screenshot wrong.
>>744546195Huh...interesting Palworld fan.
>>744545167I don't really know about Palworld updates. I played next to nothing between the early access launch and 1.0. It's been nice discovering all the new stuff in a single playthrough
Bump limit!
>>744528415The part where they shipped stolen assets is unaffected by whether they used AI or not.
>>744533175>People who respect the hobby aren't buying from scalpers, which have overtaken the second-hand market>Second hand sales decrease>Therefore nobody but scalpers cares about the hobbyThing is, you're wrong.
Another Palworld VICTORY.
>>744546512Experiencing the whole game at once must be a treat yeah. Although I did enjoy discussing each EA update with anons too.
>>744545738They will never recover, they will forever seethe, cope and dilate.But alas you can unrape the raped and ungape the gaped.
>>744505160>>744532756>>744516525that's only autism
>>744515764It was bullshit when Crazy Taxi did its guide arrow. It was bullshit when Shadow of War did its nemesis system. It was bullshit when Namco did their loading screen minigames.You think nobody complained about those because you don't notice anything that happens outside of Nintendo's sphere of influence
>>744539564yes just like my dick in your mouth lol.
>>744519715Confession denied lol
>>744548186And none of you cared until now.
>>744548532Way to prove my point
>>744547472KWARB
>>744527617>>744547472>>744505350>>744506694>>744506974so tell to your blind uncle to stop going to bed otherwise police officers arrests you
