Owlcat wants to make BG4How does that make you feel?
>>744515684it would SUCK SHIT
who is running scared of bg3 in current year, it's not even culturally relevant anymore
I think they'd be fucked. Owlcat sticks to the core rules a lot and that's fine for Pathfinder's autism but 5e REALLY NEEDED the magic items to make builds because building in system is pretty fucking awful.
>>744515684I'm playing rogue trader right now, they are unable to give players even 10% of choice variants that larian does, their games almost feel linear in comparison. Also the presentation is just sad.
>>744515684I'm not sure which one has worse cuckoldry
gamernormiegolems would never accept the loss of epic hollywood cutscenes and strong girlboss reddit quip dialogue, which owlcat is incapable of replicating because their devs didn't grow up on a diet of palm oil and marvelslopexpanded RPG systems and deeper character builds wouldn't be an adequate exchange since gamergoyim don't care about that, they just want cool zoomed in dialogues where something epic narwhal bacon happens or maybe the homoerotic edward cullen billionaire vampire companion says something sassy and it gets turned into a 10 second tiktok clip or youtube short. thats what modern RPGs are about after all
>>744515684I like Owlcat but there's no way they would be able to reach the same level of production and budget
>>744515684I doubt they'll enjoy the hasbro oversight.
>>744515684they don't have enough budget or talent, they always reuse assets, uis, menus, combat is the same shit every single time, lack of voice acting, garbage wall of texts, boring as fuck pacing characters, owlcat sucks
>>744515918>gamernormiegolems would never accept the loss of epic hollywood cutscenes and strong girlboss reddit quip dialogue, which owlcat is incapable of replicating because their devs didn't grow up on a diet of palm oil and marvelslopkekowlfags are so lacking in self awareness
>>744515684it would be one of the worst games ever made. owlcat is genuinely fucking terrible at making games and writing stories. their soundtracks though are elder god tier, and they MOG larian in that regard.oh yeah and their companions suck too
>>744515684the real question iswould it be more or less tranny mutt filled than 3?
>>744515684They'd make a janky piece of crap. BG3 isn't special because it's Baldur's Gate. It's special because it's a Larian game. Look at D:OS1 and 2.
>>744515869>10% of choice variants that larian doeslarian choices be like>do you want to get cucked by (choose all that apply):>strong womynx lesbian>traveling band of mercenaries>druid in bear form>druid in bbc form>the villain>the narrator>bear in druid form>swen's self-insert
>>744515684i do not care it will be shit like everything else that came out in the last 20 years
Cuck bros we're eating good
>>744516075>trying to complain about cuckoldry when you're an owlfagbro...
>>744516075>owlcucks can't think of anything but cuckoldryChecks out
>Owlcucks pretending that their games are some shakespearean masterpieces compared to Larian's
>>744516175They always complain about things that Owlcat does too, it's hilarious
>>744515969>owlfags are so lacking in se->*karlach grabs you by the throat and lifts you off the ground with one arm as her muscles ripple*>did you just say a homophobic slur?>*anon pisses his pants*>*gale covers his eyes and looks away*>*she drops you to the ground as you lay sobbing in a puddle of your own piss*>so.... THAT just happened!
>>744516075Retard.
>>744515684>decide that from now on their games HAVE to be fully voiced>fall into the same trap as 99% of other modern RPG where the pace of the writing is decided by the VA budget instead of the writersI hate these russian retards so much
>>744516205dude, owlcat has been introducing more and more of those "epic hollywood cutscenes" with each new dlc and game, and now they're releasing a ME cloneas for "strong girlboss reddit quip dialogue" lmao, if you deny this, you haven't played their games at all
>>744515684out of all the options its probably best company but i feel it will suck cause they will try appease the new BG playerbase and double down on Larian faggotry
>>744515684Owlcat and Wizards deserve each other
>>744515971>oh yeah and their companions suck tooThey're not amazing but I don't think you could find six out of the dozens of primary companions across all Owlcat games as bad as BG3's roster
Whats the difference between bg3 and a tenticle hentai vn?Why doesnt owl cat work on a tenticle hentai vn?
>>744516264Don't worry, Dark Heresy has every NPC dumping the bible on you like they always do even when the game is fully voice acted, I thought fully VA would fix that but alas, it didn't
They literally stole vamp and succ companions for lich men.
>Owlshill meltie ittAnd their main Russian schizo isn't here yet!
>>744516419bodied that heteronormative gender binary chud
>>744516463
>>744516513erm... paizo forced them at gunpoint to add this you know
>>744516365For how many years have you been crying lichcelfag
>>744515845Developers. Source: can think and read.
>>744516615I'm immortal and won't stop Liches unlives matter
>>744516685Maybe try not playing the path where it's an important plot point that you have to get rid of your feelings and sex drive
>>744516725Fuck offIt's non canon anyway, OG path is an Archmage they were too scared to add since it unlimate male men fantasy
>>744516820The entire game is non-canon retard, go play the tabletop then
>>744516873I'm larian chad and play as Lich in bos2 and as Archmage in bg3.
>>744515684Both studios are woke so idc
Fae'run has a real Star Wars problem huh? Giant fucking world yet we can only get stuff from the Sword Coast and specifically BG.>>744515869It would just be different. Like BG2 to BG3, the encounter and interactivity is just what Larian does even at the expense of variety that BG2 had.
>>744515684mfw. also they'll never do it, because they know they can't top BG3
>>744515684Bad.
>owlcucks crying>meanwhile TAgawds just dig in and do the workSwen won't we sitting on that throne for long
>>744516264Owlcat ignored this completely and all dialogues are still as massive as in their previous games. They simply made VAs read all of this
>>744515869what do you not like in RT presentation? i think cities and environment are way more atmospheric and immersive than gay shit in DOS3, the only location in that game which made my feel something was grymforge
Owlcat games are pure dogshit.Baldurs Gate IP is currently owned by wizards of the coast, which are going to make the next one regardless, though it may be an offshoot. Wizards of the coast hired the tranny that directed and ruined Dragon age with veilguard.
Owlcat would definitely deliver a better product but I doubt that the masses of mindless goylems would be able to appreciate it since real Rpgs are not quirky Chungus dialouge and abusing explosive barrels everytime in a fight.
>>744517492I think a clear issue would be WOTC would want to shill 5e/One D&D ruleset which even with Larian's immense homebrew, was pretty shit for a video game
>>744517425After BG3s success WotC probably gives away the license to anyone who asks. They have been desperate to diversify the brand and are probably seething big time because Larian doesn't want to work with them anymore.
>>>/twatter/
>>744517492>quirky Chungus dialouge
>>744517293>troonlasta
>>744517492>Owlcat would definitely deliver a better product
>>744517561No one decent wants it because they saw how Wotc treated Larian. It will be all mobile slop.
Owlcat can handle build-autism and that only acceptably when handed a ruleset. The more they can homebrew freehand the more things stumble over a POWER OF BIGGER NUMBERS mania. Their writing is maybe a tiny bit less reddit-conform over Larians, but so far they also never delivered the sort level design autism that Larian did
>All anons say it would be a bad idea and not play to Owlcats strengths >Suddenly someone implies Owlcat would be less woke based on nothing >Other posters pretending the entire thread is just owlcat shilling >Thread is now only pro or anti owlcat shit flinging without addressing how they'd handle Baulders gate or 5e rules at allWhat a goofy thread
>>744517293so far solasta 2 is lame
>>744516559Kinda? I actually played a couple of the original WotR books, that character and their orc wife are both named NPCs from the original adventure path important to the first ~2 books iirc, so they came attached to the prospect of adapting that adventure path to begin with.To give Owlcat some credit, I think they handled adapting that material significantly better than the original adventure path writers did. Owlcat made the effort of making the NPCs more resistant to even divulging the information, since it's some personal life details that are not at all relevant to the situation unless the PC pushes them, while the original book writers try to create easy conditions to compel the GM to give their entire backstory to the players while throwing it at the GM in paragraphs of text in a really hamfisted way. (For even greater context, I'm pretty sure the first adventure path book was written by a former writer for early Guild Wars 2, and I'll leave it at that.)
>>744515745Well, yes... the last 3 sucked as well.
>>744515684They're the only ones that could do it
>>744516559According to Owlcat themselves Paizo was way, way more lax than GW, cope
>>744517718>Their writing is maybe a tiny bit less reddit-conform over Larians... wotr's prologue outreddits the ENTIRETY of larian.
>>744515684BG3 was just faggotslop, it was never a good game. We're never getting good games ever again, they're all made by faggots and globalists.
>>744517741>without addressing how they'd handle Baulders gate or 5e rulesAnd how exactly are we supposed to debate something that didn't happen yet? Debating theoretical scenarios is almost as gay as BG3
>>744517741That's because there's no discussion to be had. Owlcat is beyond incompetent. Did you see their new Expanse game? The so called spiritual successor to ME? It was stale, clunky, had terrible animations and the writting was AWFUL.
>>744517920> It was stale, clunky, had terrible animations and the writting was AWFUL.so like ME
>>744517337The character models and animations are fucking abysmal. They make bioware cutscenes look professional and that's saying something. Also killed enemies ragdoll uncontrollably and clip through the floor like I'm playing fucking garry's mod.
>>744515684I'd rather they make Rogue Trader 2.
>>744515845Reminder that BG3 being as good as it was represented the biggest loss /v/ and /pol/ had this decade.
I'd probably actually would finish an owlcat BG game. BG3 is extremely unfun for me, I've tried 4 times to finish it but lose all interest with the game after beating the goblin cave. I just don't care for how larian designs games.
>>744517920Including Will Smith to your post was really unnecessary
>>744517920That shit already came out? Grim.
>>744517920>Did you see their new Expanse game?Yes, it's production value is far higher than BG3
>>744515684sure, why notif they build on the game. Fuck 'em if they wanna try making something from scratch.
>>744518023How can it be such a huge a loss if you have to remind everyone it happened? No one even remembers BG3 anymore
>>744518097It didn't. It's supposed to come out next year.
>>744518007>not black crusaderOnly reason to even yet have another RT would be the other end of the spectrum, as poorfag with suicide charta and a rustbucket that barely flies
>>744518178At the very least you do, Ivan.
>>744515684Pretty good. Owlcat have proven themselves to be a top notch rpg studio. We'll see how well they handle their Mass Effect like Expanse rpg. That will likely determine whether or not they can get the green light to develop BG4 from WOTC. I was surprised to learn they have 600 employees now. They're bigger than Larian and Bethesda.
>>744518084Yeah, well that shit makes me cackle every time I see it, so FUCK OFF.
owlcat faggots are the most delusional fanbase in the world thinking their games are anything above a 5/10.
>>744518178>No one even remembersThe publisher suits sure do
>>744518023The vax and Epstein files are up there too.
>>744515925And that's a good thing because then they can focus on the RPG and adding more companions and stuff. Larian is all about cinematics soap opera for normies.
>TFW I see Regongar fucking my wife Octavia
>>744518235>Owlcat have proven themselves to be a top notch rpg studioDunno about that one. They make somewhat niche games that always come out half broken and have to be fixed over the years with patches and expansions.
>>744517919Of course you can. You can look at their previous games and infer plenty. Don't be silly
>>744518286>focus on the RPGThey fail at that too
>>744517991>he needs awkward mocap animations to enjoy CRPGsit makes sense that BG3 faggots think this shitty netflix soap opera and doll house is the best game ever, you people have no imagination and have never read a book in your life.
>>744515918You type like a fucking loserWhen's the last time you spoke to your mom?
>>744515684I couldn't think of a better studio to make the game
>>744518293Regongar is the cuck in that scenario, you at least could try with a better example
>>744515684Owlcat is now working on>4th Rogue Trader dlc>Dark Heresy>Expanse>Unannounced cRPG on licensed IP>Unannounced cRPG on licensed IP 2>They want to make their own IP laterNone of them BG4. That would mean they could release BG4 at earliest around 2035
>>744518385>just imagine the visual medium in your head while we continue not putting any effort in our presentation!Hmm no I don't think I will. Take some modeling and animation classes.
>>744518497>You're not being cucked if he fucks you in the ass tooOwlcat fans are so fucking gay...
>>744518661 they're in a relationship and you're the guy who can come in and steal her away from him
>>744515684Owlcat is a dogshit developer, their games run on Unity, look 20 years old, yet somehow make modern PCs chug and die
>>744515684Let's wait for their not-mass effect game first.
>>744518724above all that their writing is fucking terrible
>Developers are scared of le DirectX 11 gamesad
>we also want to make gayest shit imaginableAnd also it goes into the trash
>>744518259sorry typo i meant to say larian. damned autocorrect!
Does RT have better companions than BG3? I liked the game but they were pretty damn boring and uninteresting
>>744518724no voice acting is the biggest failure from them.
>>744518178>71k players on Steam right now on a 3-year-old story-driven single player/co-op game
>>744518394i talk to her every day when i thank her for cooking me delicious breakfast, lunch, and dinner while i play video games. when's the last time you spoke to your cognitive behavioral therapist?
>>744518997Holy fucking remove your opinion from the gene pool immediately.Also fuck no, owlcat is good at making complex systems heavy unforgiving games. DnD 5 is just absolutely garbage and they would need to make their own system which they cant do im 100% sure.
>>744519042all bots
Would be laughable seeing ugly as sin Unity slop after how high budget BG3 was
>>744519094>owlcat is good at making complex systems>good atNah.
>>744517561>They have been desperate to diversify the brandI think you may have misunderstood.
>>744519094>lol just read this book (uninteresting one at that)no, i don't think i will, owlshill.
>>744518623is the expanse (series) any good
>>744518656casual filth like you need to be gatekept out of cRPGs, a genre in which you do not belong
>>744518992Best companion cast out of all cRPGs>>744518760RT is fantastic>>744518997No cRPG has better VA than Rogue Trader
>>744518084Why? It's a cuck thread and Will is the Cuck King, I could see him voicing a cuck in BG4.
>>744515684
>>744519284I've started with fallout 1 and even though it's from the 90's the presentation shits all over owlcuck's. Your cope is pretty sad.
>>744515684I would open a champagne bottle because as fucked as Owlcat is sometimes, with Kingmaker they showed that they understand what people liked about BG1&2, whereas BG3 had almost nothing to do with those games and barely registers as an CRPG to begin with.
>>744519357insane mogging from larian
>>744519162BG3 looks terrible. Owlcat's Expanse game has better animations and production value
>>744519357Which is better?
>>744519402Best girl
>>744519347>RT is fantasticcarried by the extensive lore.
I mostly wish CRPGs were typically shorter and more focused in scope while going full hog with reactivity to character creation and player choice. Owlcat is pretty much the antithesis to that idea. To be fair so is Larian most of the time but at least the presentation is halfway decent
>>744519393Terrible bait>>744519357Rogue Trader battles literally look like on the left>>744519439best cRPG ever made, in the best setting ever made
>>744519374Nobody should have to see Will Smith
>>744519394>with Kingmaker they showed that they understand what people liked about BG1&2Pressing skip day for like an hour? No, I don't think they did
>>744519357Is this supposed to make Owlcat look bad? Because it doesn't, at least if you actually like CRPGs instead of casual faggot garbage.
>>744519284All cRPGs are inheritingly casual, loser. They're all fake RPGs.
>>744519402Delusional post
>>744519402>Owlcat's Expanse game has better animations and production value
>>744519507>casualOwlcat games are easy.
Why are Lariancucks always so insecure?
>>744519530>>744519545larianigger cope and damage control
>>744519557... it's the opposite, owlbro, larian (and bg3 specifically) lives rent free in your head
>>744519475>Terrible baitTerrible cope.Fo1 has unique execution animations for special NPCs and even extra ones for blood mess perk. Meanwhile in RT it's the same pathetic "take gun and shoot" with broken ragdolls every time. Play more RPGs you fag.
>>744519463>I mostly wish CRPGs were typically shorter and more focused in scope while going full hog with reactivity to character creation and player choice.That's what Star Wars FOTOR claims it's trying to do
>>744515684There is a reason why larian studios told hasbro to fuck off and refused to make buldars gate 4. The studio that has to make BG4 has to deal with a shitload of bullshit from hasbro, not a good situation at all.
>>744515684On one hand - it will have a better plot than bg3On the other - gameplay will be ass and if the writing is more similar to pathfinder where paizo was choking them then characters will be ass as well
>>744519530>>744519545BG3 animations are terrible. Expanse indeed looks objectively better. No wonder, they got CDPRed devs for it>>744519616I did, RT is the best cRPG ever made. Fallout is a garbage next to it
>>744517991This anon cannot picture an apple in their mind
>>7445157455 non optional bestiality scenes but they only trigger if you romance someone, and they all involve your waifu
>>744519681ok but why arent you posting expanse clips? kek! we both know why
>>744519624We'll see
>>744519773Obviously, game isn't out and there aren't many of them. But it does have far better animations indeed
>>744519606>Owlcat wants to make BG4>NO THEY SUCK AND THEY'RE SHIT AND ALL THEIR GAMES ARE BAD ONLY LARIAN MAKES GOOD GAMES LARIAN SHOULD MAKE ALL THE VIDEO GAMES FOREVER >why are you so obsessed anon?>IM NOT OBSESSED YOU ARE OBSESSED, I BET YOU'RE THAT OWLCAT SCHIZO! FUCKING POOPDICKOWLCATSCHIZO!
>>744519732This man gladly eats hot shit because he can imagine it's ambrosia.
>>744519882>seething this hardyou've been seething at bg3 since it came out, cope all you want, but it's the truth
>>744515852It's not only the magic items. Larian also made other changes to classes and base weapons. They added the weapon skill, in base D&D weapons are just stat sticks, Larian changed that.
>>744519871>Posts clip from the highly edited and nitpicked TRAILERLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!!!!!!!!
>>744518997theres a decent text to speech mod if you are really this desperate
>>744515684it makes me laugh a little because the core audience of BG3 would bitch up a storm that the game wasn't cinematic enoughbut I see no real issue mechanically with them making it
>>744519882Reread your post and ask yourself if it's the kind of thing that would be written by someone who isn't mad.
>>744518997lol voice acting is a waste of resources
>Baldur's Gate 4 is not currently in active development, as Larian Studios declined to make a sequel and moved on to their own Divinity franchise, leaving brand owner Wizards of the Coast struggling to find a willing successor.Why.jpg?
>>744519402So damn ugly. Which I don't get since you can make a lot more beautiful female Drows yourself in cc WITHOUT mods. And besides the fact that Larian gave us semen demons like Mizora (literal one), Shart, Isobel and Orin anyway. Which more or less proves that the butchy-like face and voice they chose for Minthara was intentional.
>>744519956Throwing things and people as a barbarian is pretty fun. To a point it's a little annoying Ability Score Increase is tied to Feats, because it wound have been fun to have that extra freedom building your character.
>>744520169>Why.jpg?Why what?>following up on BG3 will be almost impossible since the bar was raise incredibly high>WotC have garnered the reputation of being shitheads and not many studios are willing to make games for them
>>744520169probably a combination of forgottenslop being the worst fantasy setting by a mile, and rabbis of the coast being infamously awful to deal withdivinity mogs, and i say this as a dedicated anti-larian schizo who has contributed to roughly 50% of all bg3 discourse on this board
>>744519552They have a lot of options added with no eye for redundancy. It's a kind of complexity at face value only. It makes it easy to make a bad build.If you manage to navigate the fake complexity, yiu quickly realize it's simpler gameplay than BG3, which is insane. Difficulty difference is mainly just tuning the dice rolls differently. Larian is just stupidly forgiving with the tuning.
>>744520230Why are they saying is the project is barely a wish inside WotC? They don't have jack shit about this game. It's probably going to fall short and become a fucking joke compared to BG3. There's just no way the game delivers given how successful Larian was at making their version.
>>744515852Bg3 is buggy af, owlcucks would produce a mathematical conundrum and their game would implode, it would have more bugs than bytes.
>>744515971Disagree, wotr and km are much better than the adventure paths, that's for sure.
>>744515684They'll be driven to bankruptcy if they try to work with Hasbro
>>744515684Owlcat is yet to make a good game
>>744515852I think being bound by 5e might be a good thing for owlcat. As a learning experience, not as a game.
>>744516323Almost all of them? Do owlcat players not realize how dull and inert the cast in those games are? Every single time you can instantly figure out exactly what their arc is going to be, and then OC drags in out for 20 hours snd expects you to act surprised or to care. Larian banter alone drives up character quality immensely.
>Owlcuck thread>Look inside>BG3 seetheMind BROKEN
>>744520689sorry meant to write larian but my fingers slipped during an intense sissygasm! confounded autocorrect!
>>744519357Larian does have great encounter design most of the time. That is one of the things that makes BG3 fun, even if you don't care about the story. The fighting arenas usually give you a good amount of flexibility of approach and be smarter than just moshpitting your characters into the enemies.
>reddit shittery is quality nowLMAO
>BG 3 has>a tranny (necromancer clown in act 3)>gays (every party member + like half of the gnomes)>browns (boring warlock man)Pathfinder Wrath of the Righteous has>a tranny (one of the first characters you meet)>gays (Sosiel and the tranny lover)>browns (Sosiel, boring paladin chick)I don't get why chuds champion one over the other.
>>744520809Larian writing suffers from frontloading too much character dumping. They could've taken it a bit slower. The writing quality is good. You're inherently more limited since it's voice acted, and can't have insane George Lucas dialogue.
>>744520937>enter room>explodey barrels at 3 o clock and 9 o clock>*visibly sweating* ok quickly i need to make sure i dont go near the barrels when i blow them up or else ill blow up too!! >*blows up the barrels*>AAAAAAAHHHHHH IM ENCOOOOOOONTERING
>>744521025better than owlcat
>>744520953because we're not tranny/brown obsessed losers like you?
>quicksave>enter room>rape demons at 3 o clock and 9 o clock>*visibly sweating* ok quickly i need to make sure i quick load before entering this room or else i'll get raped>quickload>prebuff>enter room>*kill rape demons easily*>AAAAAAAAHHHHH I'M OWLCATTING
>>744521124If you're not either of those you're not a chud
>>744519961Why are you pretending to be retarded? Expanse is a console, casual, action moviegame, that's how it looks all the time. That's all it has going for it.BG3 looks terrible indeed, especially compared to it. Owlcat can make better looking games than Larian, took them faster to get to that point than Larian too>>744520689Rogue Trader is the best cRPG ever made>>744520953Pozzfinder =/= Rogue Trader RT is one of the chuddiest cRPGs out there
>Cuckcat>Little bit masochisticUnderstatement of the year
This faggot is a massive shill.
>>744521182>Rogue Trader is the best cRPG ever madeHoly shit taste zoomergroid
>>744516270Me is more than this shit will ever be
Larian and Owlcat are both shit. Neither company has ever managed to give the player any meaningful choice, neither can write interesting companion characters and neither actually manage to tell entertaining stories, because they're too caught up in appealing to the very worst parts of the WRPG fandom; fujos and coomers.The only interesting thing is how the two are basically proportionately inverse versions of each other when it comes to game design.Larian games are massively frontloaded but lose all momentum during the second act and practically have nothing to offer for the latter half of the game.Owlcat games start simple and then keeps piling on more time-wasting management shit that bogs your playthrough down to extend the game until it doesn't even feel like the same game towards the end.
>>744517293That solasta 2? Any word on editor? 1 was OK, but too cheaply made. Idk what they wasted 5m euro for.
>>744521182Rogue Trader has>gays (both techpriests, Jae, Marazhai, Kibelah, Solomorne)>browns (psyker chick, solomorne)I don't get why you chuds champion this one either
>>744521358cope
I couldn't give less of a shit. Haven't played any of their awful games since divinity. Always the same formula with these dudes. >front loaded with loads of dialog and walking>suddenly you reach chapter 2>2 hours of endless battle>little to no dialog >game abruptly endsI don't know who this appeals to but their games always feel half baked, half finished. Over-rated and underhated.
If Rogue Trader is the best crpg ever made, then this genre is dead. Just shoot it and bury it already so it stops limping around.
>>744521462damn, you even had to make shit up with "examples" you provided
>>744521491Anon... OP isn't talking about larian...
>>744515684I aggressively don’t care. You asked, I answered.
>>744521528I like how you didn't point out which ones were "made up".Are you denying that solomorne is both black AND gay?
>>744521491Dragon Commander is the best showing of Larian being lazy. That game is a literal job half done.
>>744521528I can't believe some people will spring the line> it's just politenesson you
>words words words words words wordsThey should just write books, their "games" suck ass.
>>744521462Pasqal isn't gay
>>744521528That tweet says "MORE" representation. As in there's already representation but they want additional.Retard.
>>744521629He is 100% a homo over the other techpriest. It doesn't matter because Solomorne and Jae both allow same gender romances. That's gay.
>RT is one of the chuddiest cRPGs out thereright...
Why are low iqs saying you can only like one studio. Owlcat makes more classic style combat crpgs and larian is good at making more imsim crpgs. 99% here have not played any larian or owlcat game. Even worse not even a single infinity engine game
>buy RPG>make character>choose background>allocate stats>mandatory colony management>mandatory resource balancing >mandatory ship combat>mandatory backtracking to your shitty colonies every time they are under attackRoguetraderbros...
>>744520169>>744520336Wizards was originally planning to have their own 3D D&D simulator video game. This may have been a big reason they fucked with Larian. Because they didn't want Baldur's Gate 3 to steal all the audience for their own in-house virtual table top. However, that itself died and Wizards is totally SOL now. No BG4, no VTT.
>buy RPG>make character>choose background>swen teleports through your screen and lectures you for picking a white male
>>744515684It'll be a downgrade in every way. Also, Owlcat has never delivered a game without massive game breaking bugs on launch.
>>744521574>I like how you didn't point out which ones were "made up".Why would? Anyone who played it knows you are a lying kike>Are you denying that solomorne is both black AND gay?yes>>744521716there isn't any, which is why they have to cope and seethe>>744521809Yes
>>744522041>there isn't any
>>744520873Kek
>>744516024is that even possible?
>>744521831Narcissism of small differences
>>744522212yeshence the constant seethe
>Owlcat>BG4Is WotC going to give them the story? All Owlcat do is shitty tabletop campaign adaptations (zero creative work). Basically remakes like Beamdog.
>>744519475>best cRPG ever made, in the best setting ever madeAbhorrent bait. Kill yourself. Wrath mops the floor with 40babby's first XCOM clone.
>>744522348Rogue Trader is completely their own story, not an adaptation of tabletop adventures. Only element they got from tabletop is Calligos, whom they retconned anyway and places like Foulstone and Footfall existing.
>>744522345>wan't
>>744515684The fact no one batted an eye at 3 means 1 and 2 are also shit. Lost all interest and dropped them from my backlog, don't care.
>>744522448Nothing is better than Rogue Trader and no setting is better than 40k40k is the Titan and Savior of gaming. All the best video games are 40k games. Only video games worth playing are 40k gamesRogue Trader is the best cRPG ever madeIt's between Space Marine 2 and Darkitde to be considered the best action game ever madeAll Strategy games of all kinds are completely cornered by 40kTotal and complete 40k domination
>>744515684i want an owlcat Fallout more than anything 2BQHWY
>replaying BG3 with AMP and difficulty boosting mods>burn out again right at the start of act 2There is something about these long ass RPGs where I can never really finish a second playthrough.
>noooooooooooooo i can only enjoy game from one single studioI pity you faglords.Actually, no, I don't. I'll just play all the video games while you niggers cry and whine like women
>>744521929But I made a buff lizardman.
>>744521724No, he's not. Eogunn is the one that acts like a faggot with his "friend" Pasqal never does nothing of that sort
>>744521929>"We made ALL THESE interesting choice for you, and you pick white male??"The interesting choices:>Human (black)>Human (gay flag colour /w ren faire devil tail + horns)>Human (green + tusks)>Elf>Elf (black)>Short races (you're not going to play these, they don't matter)>Alien frog (joke race with 3 unique dialogue options, otherwise just human)
>>744522456Yeah and it's dogshit
>>744522345>posts an unironic reddit memenot helping your case
>>744522041>>Are you denying that solomorne is both black AND gay?>yesGotchahttps://roguetrader.wiki.fextralife.com/Solomorne+Anthar>Solomorne is available as a Romance option for the Lord Captain of any gender.If Solomorne isn't gay, then neither is anyone from BG3 since they're all "player sexual".>the chuddiest RPG is full of brown and gay peoplelmao
>>744522683inXile would be better than Owlcat for Fallout
>>744522345>Solomorne isn't in the pic>will wait for his DLCOh, I get it, you didn't buy his DLC. His dialogue is full of gay romance bullshit.
>>744522776Most people pick elf actually.You can go look it up in the stats they published.
>>744522881that's how faggots seethe at Rogue Trader, yes>>744522781It's fantastic>>744522894>Gotchanope>If Solomorne isn't gay, then neither is anyone from BG3 since they're all "player sexual".he isn't player sexual. He is straight and written as a straight, just like kebab is, hence the seethe>lmaoyes>>744522982No, it isn't. It's a straight romance for women, just like Kebab is straight romance for men.
>>744515684It would certainly be more into the roleplaying aspect, they're good about that.I understand why Larian had to cut corners in that respect because of the presentation but it sucks doing a second playthrough and seeing what you thought was a bespoke interaction was actually just one of many paths to the same line of dialog.
>>744515684Well if it's RTWP it's a instant skip for me, fuck that shit.
This owlcuck shill is embarrassing
>>744522776Drow aren't black
>>744523032>He is straightWhy lie? Anyone can google this.
>>744523332What he's trying to say is that the character is clearly straight coded, with a romance that was obviously meant to be for women, and that you can only romance him as a man because he's DLC. He's Russian so he struggles putting it into words, forgive him.
>>744521926Fuck Wizards, i hope that company dies.
>>744523112owlcuck only value is in making 40k games. They are useless without it. Which is why I want Expanse to flop and will make sure to destroy it reputation too. Similarly, wasting time on making some garbage dnd turd is not good for them either. They should make more 40k games instead>>744523332Toybox cheats do not count and you know it. You feel it. It's why it bothers you so.
>>744515684owlcat wouldnt be able to match the production values of bg3
>>744515684I think they would be the best to make BG4. As long as it is 3rd person like BG3, they are making The Expanse game in 3rd person so they should be able to make BG4 in 3rd person.
>>744523434>Toybox cheatsYou can start the game right now with no mods as a dude and you get the romance lines bro, why are you lying?
>>744523552Expanse has better production values though
>>744523032Who cares about romance? Are you women?
>>744523581why are you lying? He is straight and american white, hence the cope and seethe>>744523613Not the point. People here lie that Rogue Trader isn't one of the chuddiest cRPGs ever made.
im GAY!!!!!!!!!!!!@!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>744515869I think BG3's story suffers because of all the choices Larian gives you. They have to account for so many different dialogue options based on class, race, path taken, quest completed and all the other variables that the story and the pacing just feels off for the most part because of it.
>>744523613>muh womenOnce again repeating the cope that romance isn't popular among men when the romanceable girls are always the most popular ones.
>>744522647BASED mexibro
>Playing Rogue Trader>Almost finish act 2>Save file got corrupt
>>744519357Worst part about right is you have to do the same combat over and over again on every fucking map and it's always the same>Buff up with mod>Cast pit/CC if needed>End combat
>>744515684It will be shit
>>744521947Larian has never released finished game without bugs either, they patched BG3 for 3 years for fuck sake
>>744523679Absolutely this. However, comma, it kind of forces then to design the encounters better at the same time.
>>744515684It would be low budget as fuck compared to Larian's gameLarian cursed this series with its masterpiece
>>744521182>woman>woman>womanwow so badass and coolI remember talking to a soccer guy when one of the latest FIFA games came out. he was really mad that they'd added female players with stats equal to or better than the men, because it was so OBVIOUSLY RETARDED it insulted him so much he couldn't enjoy the game anymore.it really shook me out of this what I guess actually is unironic brainwashing that's been done to me, through sci-fi/fantasy media, where women are always presented as equally capable to men. when in actuality, that's absolutely fucking retarded. they're not even remotely close to in the same league as men.I legit can't see these games the way I used to anymore.whenever I see these man-women acting tough, I just recall that conversation about the female soccer players being given the same stats as the male ones and my immersion instantly breaksand yours should too
>>744524294True
>>744517293>nigword character in partykys
>>744519042Women aren't people
>In bg3 a "lich" shames you if u dont involve yourself into romance faggotryi really hate character model art style in this game, it has this weird non serious appearance which adds to their weird and cringe dialogue and story writing.
>>744524527>brainwashingthe myth of the amazons is literally thousands of years old. People have been fantasizing about warrior women since at least the bronze age.Is it realistic? No. That's why it's fantasy.
>>744525109He also shames you if you do. He shames you no matter what, retard.
>>744519736I will now buy your game.
>>744525109Withers uses the mummy model, he's not a lich
>>744515684Owl cat does the stories justice but doesn’t have technical/gameplay expertise Also bg3 is an excellent game (with flaws) any contrarians are outting themselves
>>744515684Unsurprising, retards are usually unaware of their own mental deficiencies.
>>744519736As a beastchad it pisses me off when you retards call it bestiality. Bestiality involves actual animals, Halsin isn't an animal, he's shapeshifted into a bear
>>744525207and thats supposed to make it better? At no point i felt like i was playing serious game, at the start they tell you to make your dream guardian and give beautiful Drow as default to later reveal hes a mindflayer but also hits on you and offers sex. Fuck larian sex pest writers.
>>744515684When will Owlcat make their own original IP?
>>744525150>it's fantasy, fuck realismIt's such cop-out for bad writing.Right, it's made up so you have endless options to make a thoughtful story. Fantasy writers should be forced to study Euclid's Elements. It's fine to make any kind of shit up but it all needs to flow together like math. Why Euclid's elements? It teaches you one valuable lesson: If you choose to make something true, it will NECESSARILY make other things true/false accordingly. This kind of thoughtfulness is sorely missing.
>>744515684I´ve played Owlcat games so i see no problem with this. They give less roleplaying freedom on how to solve issues than Larian but their builds usually have more variety and are usually more robust. This was true even when Larian was not limited by 5e.Romances could be an issue though...
>>744525808>and thats supposed to make it betterIt directly addresses your complaint, yes. Now you're just complaining about a completely different thing because you lost your previous complaint. Seems to me you just want to bitch.
>>744526005>It's such cop-out for bad writing.Are you calling the greeks bad writers? They invented the amazons.Not gonna read the rest of your rant because it has nothing to do with anything. A setting having warrior women or not doesn't have anything to do with writing.
>>744526192>but their builds usually have more variety and are usually more robustNot really, they give you a ton of options yes but the balance is all over the place and you have some clear outliners that are just better while some options are literally not viabel at all.It's like giving you the option be the best boat captain in the world, but then not giving you a boat or water for the entire game.
>>744526192>Romances could be an issue thoughLarian girls suck and Owlcat ones even with their own stinkers are much better
>>744526302>complain about some retarded shit in game>hey but similar retarded shit also happens even if you do this how does it solve the issue I have with the game you retarded faggot
>>744519357/v/tards will pretend right is better
>>744515684So BG3 but even more woke
>>744526392The rant has to do with that attitude.>it doesn't have to be realistic, it's fantasy I actually agree that warrior women are a reasonable archetype in many settings. Just that you used a braindead cop-out. As you're also doing now in another way All archetypes don't go togetger just because of precedent. That's a really dumb way to think. Braindead.
How the fuck this game never got an expansion, any sort of extra 'trials' 'wave survival' or 'boss mode' from either the dev or mod community is the biggest wasted opportunity in gaming history. all that time spent on this combat system and rules just to never see an extra fight from modder or dev alike?
uh oh larianshill schizomeltie
>>744526709I'm denying your notion that accepting warrior woman in a fantasy setting requires any sort of "brainwashing". The only time warrior women wouldn't fit is in a realistic setting, which D&D has never been. Even back in the 80s, people were statting Sonja for AD&D1e.There's no reason to complain about warrior women in a thread about any baldurs gate game besides being retarded.
>>744521503nah, Underrail is
>>744527141I'm not that guy. I butted in because your attitude is retarded and makes everything worse. You appeal to precedent. Do you not understand how fucking stupid that is? It's a cop-out.
>>744515684you already get cucked in BG3, so nothing changes
You're never going to be able to have a normal conversation on Baldur's Gate outside of gooning on /trash/, huh? Anyway, Karlach is best girl. Would hold hands with and lick her abs.
>>744526448Every Owlcat girl is a stinker. Even the most vanilla girl in the entire game is an ex succubus who has taken the world's circumference in cock.
>>744527908It utterly mindbroke too many schizos, I look forward to what the next Divinity will do to them.
>>744527607>I butted in because your attitudeEat 5 billion cocks you faggot
>>744527607>I'm not that guy.Fuck off then, retard.
>>744527992>ignores that all the girls in BG3 are also sluts>including unironic cuckshit like ShartYeah give me the succubus I can impregnate, thank you
>>744515684They shouldn't waste their talent on shit like 5e.
>>744515684how so? It aint a new red dead redemption
>>744528140All girls from both developers are active or ex sluts. So that leaves the only remaining space of discussion to be the actual quality of writing and the story arc of the relationship. In which case every single Larian girls absolutely humiliates each Owlcat chick.
>>744528110>>744528126You severely underestimate how stupid the statement was. Ironically, because there's precedent to people saying that kind of shit and not thinking about it that much.
>>744528369>All girls from both developers are active or ex slutsFactually incorrect, Cassia is a virgin for example>In which case every single Larian girls absolutely humiliates each Owlcat chicklol
>>744515869This is completely made up. Bg3 has two paths, good and bad, and the majority of your choices impact nothing. RT gives you plenty of variety and your choices in the sidequests come back to affect things later, you also get more opportunity to rp your character whereas Bg3 forgets your race/class was a thing halfway through Act 1
>>744528479And half of Cassia's endings involve the player getting cucked unless you choose a specific sequence of dialogue options.
>>744520169because wizards of the coast love fucking themselves overit's honestly amazing they haven't been bought out but i guess the nerds who play their shit still accept it begrudgingly, where else would they go? pathfinder? lol
>>744528182that's right, we need more pathfinder slop.
>>744528598>halfJust one, and getting cucked in an easily avoidable bad ending (that she herself wants to avoid) beats having your romance constantly wanting to fuck the bear her writer self inserts to
>>744528656>J-JUST OneThat's great champ. I hope the corner chair is comfy.
>>744517741There's a lot of mentally ill schizos upset that people continue talking about Owlcat games
>>744528598You don’t “get cucked,” she rejects and leaves you and goes through with her arranged marriage. You failed the romance
>>744515684I think they'd do a much better job making nwn3
>>744528721I'm sure yours is
>implying BG3 girls would be worth a second glance without the mocap and full voice investmentLMAO
>>744528038It's a great litmus test. BG3 is one of the gayest games ever made, but it's also actually good. So, it's funny seeing politispergs out themselves because they want BG3 to be bad like Veil*uard or L*st Of Us 2 so bad.
>>744528369Not true though about Owlcat romances, there are some horrendous examples but a few are in fact virgins, and those are some of the most recent and most popular. Bg3’s female romances were pretty terrible in a vacuum, no need to compare. Karlach is biologically a man. Mintharo has testicles. Shadowheart is generally normal but is laced with unnecessary humiliation ritual garbage like the ugly gnome talking about he French kissed her as a trainee, or the intentionally awkward sex scene. As to the “actual quality of writing,” Owlcat has better world building and more believability in its characters
>>744528928I romance the frog
You retard shitposters on year 6 of nonsense complaining about both games.Meanwhile i'm still wondering If Durge would shack up with Camellia
>>744529119>and those are some of the most recent and most popularOnly Cassia is, nobody gives a flying fuck about Galfrey. And no there's no reason to assume that Kibellah is a virgin.>Shadowheart is generally normalShart is literally the worst one of them.
>>744528369>All girls from both developers are active or ex sluts.And once again you dumb motherfuckers don't want to acknowledge that Rogue Trader exists.Firstly, ALL tabletop RPG are for FAGGOTS. ALL of the tabletop companies cater to ultra-leftist gay shit, from Gameworkshop to WotC to Pathfinder's fruits. ALL of them. This is why you will never get a cRPG that doesn't have girl-boss shit or outright gays and tons of "racial diversity".Yeah, it was also in Shadowrun, but you wanted to fuck (and couldn't) the chick so you don't remember, or all of you are zoomer idiots who never even played these games before.So, considering that ALL these games will be rife with faggotry and diversity etc. which company produces the best / least worst of them?Owlcat. How? Because the storylines are factually more interesting than anything Larian produces. The influence you have on the world is also massive, though of course it's told via slides, whereas there is only ONE path you can take in BG3 and it has a single fork of divergence near the end: Kill the brain, control the brain, control the brain but for Baal.Pathfinder WotR you can be a heavenly warrior, a demonic legion lord, a lich, a manifestation of predestination, a living swarm of life-consuming locusts, etc. And each of these listed paths have drastic differences along their narrative routes, how characters interact with you, the choices you can make and the endings you can get (and you can have minor variations all throughout).Then there's the cast, where you have a cute sexy Succubus whose arc is about literal divine intervention causing her to awaken to her sin and, with your help, she gains a soul like that of a human's.--Astarian is a vampire Spawn. He either becomes a super vampire with no morals or he gets catharsis by killing the dude who super raped him for a hundred years and then becomes a vigilante.
>>744529178Durge would fuck Camellia and then eat her corpse.
>>744523434damn... truly rent free.>stalks threads for a certain dev that he HATES SO MUCH including incomprehensible schizo "receipts" AKA reddit screenshotsare you the same guy that spams BG3 threads with chinese ownership stuff?
>>744529120*the toad>>744529178Cam would be a lower ranking cultist that attempted to seduce him, thought she had him under control after having sex a few times, and then got herself killed by attempting an assassination
>>744529230Damn bro. I'm happy for you. Or sorry that happened
>>744515684it would probably have more/better build options but a significantly worse sandbox and environments. I'd probably still try it out though but I think it'd be worse than 3
>>744515684I hope the amount of swarms stays consistent with Pathfinder.
>>744527286Based
>>744528906Truth, but the hope that ez use "make your own story" kits are getting released by established publishers are slimTurns out forcing your own future products to compete with free shit made by fanbois for the 10 year old release that isn't making profit anymore gets really nasty for biz
>>744529230But wait, there's more! How about the fact that basically the entire cast of BG3 is just the cast of Divinity Original Sin 2 but slightly altered and just as shit, or how NONE of the characters but Lae'zel and maybe Gale have any actual stake in the plot?Astarion is a glorified DLC character as he has NO CONNECTION to the events of the game and his arc is concluded by entering an area that feels like an easter egg.Wyll's dad gets kidnapped and he either dies or doesn't.Shadowheart has the special object that you need. Kill her and take the thing, and nothing in the story changes. Her entire arc has one crossover with the plot and it's with killing or freeing the Nightsong, and that's only really to do with Nightsong moving HER plot along, not her plot having anything to do with the narrative and stakes.Minthara has no character and no plot. Which sucks because blue elf > half elf.Karlach knows what's-his-face and wants revenge.Jahira and Retard are just nods to BG2. Halsin's entire reason to exist is for Act 2 in the shadow lands and has no point after that nor any real connection or interactivity with the plot either.That's it. In Pathfinder WotR, every character has a thematic tie to the overall theme of revenge and redemption. The tiefling's revelation about his origin and power, the succubus's repentance arc, fucking EVERYTHING about Ember and her lore implications and effect on the world, even the assassin dwarf and his little arc. Your Hellknight companion's focus on order at all cost, too, is a reflection on the gods' action (or inaction) in the narrative's affairs.All of this stems from the story really being about one maniac's attempt to subvert the very laws of the universe to get their revenge and reclaim the one they've lost to sudden, senseless tragedy. And even THAT has a secret ending to it (which blows but it's there).Meanwhile you can be good or evil all BG3 and the cast only reacts if you kill the Grove
>>744529213Lae’zel literally tells you she’s happy that she’s sterile because it allows her to enjoy unlimited sex. Women obviously can’t impregnate other women so the implication is as explicit as it can get. On top of that, she’s ugly and boring(My people this, My people that, Me very strong Me no stand for that etc)Then you have Minthara that is like somebody decided to press and distill his mommy issues into a single character, except he didn’t bother sweetening the concoction with an idealized appearance, a smooth voice, or a suggestive outfit. Instead, you get someone’s aged, unattractive, grating mother with a smoker’s voice and cagey personality fully intact Then there’s Karlach who literally throws your legs apart and slowly brings her claws toward your forbidden zone while your character giggles and shivers in anticipation. Karlach is built like a man and talks like a reddit millennial screaming “FUCK me” and “Cheers!” every other sentence Shadowheart however has an appearance and a voice that is attractive to most. That alone makes her not only superior to the alternatives but the only true “young female romantic interest” and I don’t see the point in going any further, anything negative about her is immediately canceled out by the state of the alternative
>>744530020>and I don’t see the point in going any further, anything negative about her is immediately canceled out by the state of the alternative
>>744529970>That's it. In Pathfinder WotR, every character has a thematic tie to the overall theme of revenge and redemptionlmaoreally stretching it here
>>744530081Yes, obviously. Nobody forced you to open the relationship and fuck two men Fucking Lae’zel is like fucking 2 thousand men. Mintharo actually is, literally, a biological man with fully intact testicles and an Adam’s Apple. Karlach is on T
>>744530268>schrodinger's cuckoldry once againShart WANTS to fuck Halsin, she constantly fantasizes about fucking him. She flirts with him. And she's the only girl that's willing to engage in orgies
>>744515918But Owlcat isn't capable of that either, they just do the same thing that Larian did. The primary difference is that Owlcat does it while invoking Infinity Engine gaming. That doesn't make it better!
>>744529970Make no mistake, I really like BG3 once you mod the faggotry out of it, but this game's story is still shit. Pathfinder's is far better, though again it needs a lot of Wokeless mod magic and even then it's not like you're play a novel or something.BG3 is upgraded Divinity, and anyone who says otherwise is retarded. Roguetrader is even better than WotR, to an extent in some areas, but even that can't be free of faggotry and is limited in scope, whereas WotR is in my view far better because of the divergent paths and narrative turns you can have.I mean, once you turn off the stupid crusade shit.But again, Larianfags are such newfags to RPGs they think BG3 is high art narrative writing with three dimensional characters. LOLGood luck finding any game with truly well written characters. It's vidya. Digital toys. Read a book if you want a good story.RPGs are about roleplay, and Wrath of the Righteous and Rogue Trader actually offer that.Not that I think Owlcat can make a game like these again. Just look at the shit Dark Heresy or their Mass Effect knock-off they're making.Ungay BG3 and Pathfinder and have fun and stop shit-flinging you assholes. RPG HQ and BasedMods.
>>744526930so you literally have never opened the mod page included in the fucking game?
if we pretend bg3 is bad russia will stop losing!
>>744530328Nobody forced you to convince open the relationship because you wanted to have sex with a man. Pride month was a few months ago but dw, any day can be come out day
>>744515684Owlcat can barely make what they make. BG4 is far, far outside their reach.
>>744530538>exact same NPC replyAs expected from a Shartfag
>>744515869yeah, i know what you mean.
>>744517293I won't buy it if they made the characters ugly again, fucking horrible models, none of the hair fit those potato heads. All my party looked like shit, but still it was a comfy drama free game. My party made me kek constantly with how little they cared about anything in the world besides finishing their quests. It was like real rpg players.
>>744530157Alright "every" character is a stretch but the cast actually more than not does tie into the themes of the game. Whereas BG3 is mostly just daddy and mommy issues: the game. Makes sense considering it's made by gays and trannies but still.
>>744517293Sloasta was one of the biggest piece of shit games I played that year, I was genuinely upset when I saw the overwhelmingly positive reviews on Steam.
>>744515918>expanded RPG systemsowlcat does not have that, you have far less interactivity with the game world and npcs, far less ability for the player to express himself through roleplaying than in bg3>deeper character builds lots of complexity, but no real depth because the simple combat system does not support it
>>744530520Kek
>>744529970>as he has NO CONNECTION to the events of the gamewrong, he has plenty of perspective on the fear and results of being transformed into something unwillingly, which gives alot of texture to the "should or or should I not" debate in regards to the brainworms. He will insist on using the worms up until you're asked to become a partial illithid, and eating ANY worm means you have to pass a check to resist doing so, meaning that if you listened to him in regards to eating the worm, you may unwillingly become partially a monster. I dunno where the notion that companions NEED to be a part of the main plot is coming from basically no WRPG has a cast wholly made up of people who are important to the main plot.
>>744522647YUeah no . 40kgays is a dogshit setting .fantasy is the better warhammer setting.
>>744518661this is gay, where are the choices in this rpg? Can't you kill the orc in an accident or something? This is a war you know haha
>>744530575But to be at that point, you need to have already had the “But babe please, hear me out.”conversation with Shadowheart because Halsin had approached you and said “Damn cuh that’s a fine bussy you got there, you offering?” and to that you answered “Oh gosh darn I’d love to but idk if Shadowheart would be ok with it.”No offense but you’re giving closeted
>>744517293based, the lack of Solasta discussion is proof that /v/ doesn't give a fuck about actually playing video-games and only culture war baiting
I mean it was pretty obvious to anyone with a working brain that it was gonna be either Obsidian or Owlcat.
>>744530781You genuinely can't read, it's impressive
>>744521462It also has a space marine voiced by a tranny
>>744530841Ulfar's VA trooned out after RT released
>>744530665>I dunno where the notion that companions NEED to be a part of the main plot is coming from basically no WRPG has a cast wholly made up of people who are important to the main plot.Why the fuck are characters written for a plot that don't affect or have any personal connection to the plot? Videogame writing is so shitAs for the perspective thing, that means nothing. I didn't say Astarian is a shit character with nothing to add, just that he doesn't have any actual connection or influence on anything. If the game shipped without him and you had to download him as part of a Season Pass he'd feel just as included in the narrative. That's the same for most of the cast. That's my point.And his and Karlach's and really most everyone's storylines are so poorly accomplished in Act 3 that it boggles the mind how Larianfags really think this game is the superior WRPG in anything other than aesthetics and graphics. Not even the OST compares to Pathfinder or Rogue Trader by miles. I like being able to smash through a locked door, so there's that, but still. As a roleplaying game? Come on, man. It's lower tier for sure, below Pathfinder and Rogue Trader but honestly maybe that's a testament to how sad WRPG games really are that those are the narrative benchmarks.
>>744531029>Why the fuck are characters written for a plot that don't affect or have any personal connection to the plot? Videogame writing is so shitin the case of an RPG it could be to fulfill certain mechanical roles, or further flesh out the setting by providing smaller side stories centered on them, obviously. RPGs aren't usually laser focused on the main plot and feature all sorts of side stories and adventures man. this your first WRPG or what?
I think we've had enough Baldur's Gate. How about some other locations or settings?
>>744530821You bottomed for Halsin. If you got there, you had solo sex with another man. You let another man bend you over, take you by the hips, and let him beat that bussy into the next century. Idk why you’re pretending to care about Shadowheart, it’s obvious you’re feeling “weird” about men>>744531029All of this is true. RT with DnD money would be incredible if Vermintide is anything to go by, bg3 is so lacking in depth it confuses me why there are those who continue to place it over alternatives. I played bg3 dosII and RT to death and while all games have appeal only RT offers me something close to the amount of reactivity I would expect from an rpg. Unironically I think FNV is better than most crpgs for this reason
>>744531305Hahahaha holy shit you're still repeating this, Shartfags are something else. No, Halsin chimes in even if you don't romance him, that makes it even worse (and Shadowheart disapproves if you reject him btw)
>>744519042Don't bother, anon
Larian would never make Arue a romance option if they made Pathfinder and would have instead turned her into a girlboss.
>>744521025>it's another "BG3 combat is about barrels" episodethese reruns are getting tiresome
>>744531674He just saw the epic meme webms but never actually tried to do it himself
>>744530863still makes it woke.
>>744531381You need to accept his proposal and bring your party to the brothel with the intention to have sex. Literally, what were you expecting? It’s also so laughably retarded to argue this scenario validates the other romances. It’s ok bro, I’ll keep your secret.
>>744515852I think even they'd fuckin veto a lot of rulings from 5.5e
>>744531781No, you don't have to accept anything. He tries to join in even if you never romance him, as long as he's in the party, if you try to do the orgy with the drow and Shadowheart, Halsin interrupts and tries to join, you genuinely have no idea what you're talking about
>>744519042>check top played non pvp singleplayer games on steam>500k Palworld>120k zomboid>75k BG3>70k Stardew Valleyhmm, Im detecting a pattern here
someone get these owlcucks out of here.
>>744515684Would it be good?
>>744515684I don't want a BG4 prior to 6e.
>>744515684>Owlcat wants to make BG4Bad idea owlcat. Stay away from WotC
>>744531893Yes. Your point being what? You’re mad that you propose a gay-coded orgy in front of your companions and one of them wants to join in? Wake up bro, you’re gay
>>744524115>comma
>>744519439>carried by the extensive lore.Damn, who'd even win in a book-off between 40k and D&D? Both settings are shitting out sourcebooks, novels and corny movies without end and must be among the IPs with highest amount of vidya
>>744531561
>>744515869picking which homo will fuck you in the ass isn't "choice variants" faggot
>>744532938It is when I can magma-dunk the faggots the whole game. Still bit miffed the druid has to be dragged along until the boat-landing if you want the curse gone
>>744515684>owlcat makes BG4>Forever shown to imbe inept compared to larianBig fucking talk owlcat. Fuck it let's see it
>>744530081Those animations look like an absolute garbage. Stiff, like puppets on strings. How the fuck people delude themselves this has some amazing production values?
>>744529286nah, that guy likes pozzfinder, I only care for 40k, owlcat is inconsequential to me beyond thatI don't care for dndslop and don't bother with ballsgays3, this case only matters because it could deny me another 40k cRPG if owlcuck is retarded enough to make bg4>>744530734cope
>>744515684Will be even more unfinished and ugly
>>744531674>>744531713i never played bg3, i just shit on it for funbeen doing it every day
I only want a game that respects my sexuality. I should be able to choose my sexual orientation on the character creater and avoid flirting attempts from people that are not my preference.
>>744533881Why? That's not how people work
>>744533935Are you implying that people in your party, that travel and fight alongside you, will not know your sexual orientation?
>>744515684The only reason 3 was partly tolerable was because it played off of divinity original sins combat ( the best). Would absolutely never play an owlcat bg4 (or any owlcat game).
>>744521809Why is Heinrix between the 2 brown girls lol
>>744517293>nigger>jeet elfdisgusting, wish I hadn't bought the first game.
>>744533935It is?
>>744533251It's funny because fucking oblivion of all games has equal or even better facial animations and idle transitions most of the time, and that released 20 years ago and didn't even use mocap like this garbage did. That's how you can tell the people pushing this shit didn't actually play it. Most of the "emotion faces" have literally the same quality as oblivion's persuasion wheel minigame, that's sad but also par for the course for them, always miles behind, and takes years and 100's of millions to even catch up to where most other devs were decades ago.
>>744519357remove the explosive barrels and left would be 10x betterbarrel bullshit completely killed my enjoyment of bg3.
>>744519402they hated him because he spoke the truth
>>744533881mans is mad pussy-o.
>>744525635yiff in hell furfag
>>744534427>furryshit>bestiality
>>744533202>if you want the curse gonei do not save or destroy the Druid Camp because i recruit Minthara in Act 2. i have never solved the curse because i have never met Halsin. everybody's problems are not my party's problems. my party's problem is tadpoles.
>>744519402If you fucked this you are gay
>>744515684Thats not what he said twittertard.
>>744515869What the fuck am I even reading.BG3 is literally good/bad and an occasional dialogue flag from a sidequest with your party members butting in to remind you theyre interested in gay anal sex.Like typical Larian its all style/presentation and no substance.
>>744515869And Larian's combat mogs Owlshat into outer orbit
>>744522041Are you the Russian who screeches balls hurt gay?
>>744536049I'm a different schizo
>>744515684Literally the best possible developer for BG4 other than Larian. I hope this gets confirmed.
>>744536107Ah ok. I should have realized by you being relatively pleasant to talk to even if I disagree
>there are so many choices!!!>every dialogue option leads to being called a cuck and attackedbut thou must
They'd need a lot more money and people to make a game with a presentation as good as BG3 though. I wish they'd be the devs of BG4, but realistically I think some shitty big devs like Ubisoft or Bioware might pick it up.
>>744536516Has owlcat even made a multiplayer game? That's kinda a huge step and it's not BG without multiplayer
>>744515684>hasnt released RT last dlc and their 2 upcoming game
>>744536578Is BG3's multiplayer even good?
>>744515684Nothing
Owlcat's devs are Russians but they added trans and woke shit to their games, fucking why?
>>744536729> fucking why?They're Russian
>>744536627I liked it
>>744536729and they love blacks.
>>744536729Russians love trannys more than any other group in the planet
>>744515684Would be kino
>>744537271No? They literally kill faggots there.
>>744515745This. Owlcat makes barely functional early access games that they call 1.0. Rogue Trader literally didn't have a complete intro chapter until over a year into the game existing. Kingmaker took 3 years until the first two chapters were normally completable as there were horrendous game breaking bugs that didn't make sense based on your order of exploration that would lock the game into a defeat mechanism that was bugged.>>744516323Roughly six of the companions in Wrath of the Righteous alone are the worst companions in an RPG I've ever endured, including the one in the post you replied to. Kingmaker companions are almost as bad. I can't play either of these games without a party of mercenary characters. I killed three of the companions in Rogue Trader and it made the game better.
>>744536578The Expanse.
>>744537551Yes, they kill Russians there
>>744537551so why is there a pandemic of gay porn in the army?
If they hire Chris Avellone to write the story I'm all in.
>>744537670is he not blacklisted
>>744537661That's probably European propaganda to destabilize the Russian army.
>>744537594>literally didn't have a complete intro chapter until over a year into the game existingLol! and RTfags act like their game is the best rpg of all time>I killed three of the companions in Rogue TraderLet me guess Idira, Jae and Yrliet?
>>744537820lol
>>744537731No, he proved his innocence sometime ago, he worked in Kingmaker and WotR.
>>744537874Only Kingmaker
>>744537869Lol what? Did you forget how much they tried to force in the media that Putin had terminal cancer? That type of dirty strategy is nothing new for Western superpowers.
>>744537943Just Google it man, he wrote for WotR as well, I'm just not sure how much.
>>744521182Looks like a cheesy action flick and that's a good thing.Get rid of the gorilla though, nobody but a handful degenerates like muscle women. Was it mandated by netflix?
>>744537989Powerful
>>744520953I blame it on paizo, RT doesn't have that kind of faggotry.Give it time though, games workshop will push for it in time
>>744537594>Roughly six of the companions in Wrath of the Righteous alone are the worst companions in an RPG I've ever enduredWhich ones?
>>744515684I couldn't care less.I only bought BG3 because Larian developed it, I won't buy 4 with Owlcat.
>>744515684If Owlcat made a Shadowrun game I'd cum so hard.
BG4 should be developed by Atlus and they should turn it into a Persona-like.
>>744542942Powerful
>>744542568>I only bought BG3 because Larian developed it,I bet you were a real big fan of Dragon Commander back in the day, huh? Come off it. You bought it because it was pretty to look at not because Larian is good at anything. Their games are 50% meme anyway and with the advent of their AIDS they've gotten gayer and dumber
Well I want them to do fantasy stuff again and really anything as long as it is not 40k so I am down for it.
>>744545391yeah, what's up with that. Those guys have been around for decades making some actual slop, discount, inferior versions of games which were a current flavor of the month at that time. And now people pretend they are some venerable studio, wtf.
>>744545576>>744545391You probably forgot because you don't play video games but they made DOS2 which might as well be the second most popular CRPG (after BG3)
>>744537594>Rogue Trader literally didn't have a complete intro chapter until over a year into the game existingWhat are you talking about, all they added was some cutscenes; the dialogue, plot and encounters play out exactly the same now as it did at launch
>>744545645and that is supposed to excuse all those decades of slop?
>>744515684>jpeg everywhere>barely any companion reaction or commentary on things you do>not voiced>shitty choices>but dont worry, there will be 15 party members with no depth to choose from and maybe one of them will happen to be a niche fetish you love!
>>744545458jej
>>744545458You keep spamming this but what's your source? It's just some random tweet of some random woman saying it
>>744515971>fucking terrible at making games and writing storiessame as Larian then?
The hubris of Owlcast to even suggest they can follow up BG3 is insane. Bioware can handle BG4. I can't think of many other devs who could.
>>744545813do you speak russian
>>744518023But I didn't lose anything, no money, no time, didn't play a tranny furry game, didn't worry about it. People who care about sales are depressed business majors who don't play videogames.But me? I didn't even do anything I just played my backlog as usual.
>>744515684Why couldn't they just take something small and pretty safe like shadowrun?
>>744523679Yes, obviously, this is a big reason for them not wanting to make a DLC or a second game, because they would need to account for every fucking choices, meanwhile Bioware just lied for 10 years and gave the same ending to everyone with Mass Effect 3
>>744515918>expanded RPG systems and deeper character buildsYeah, add 1 point into monk and then spam 20 sabretooth is really peak design
>>744515971>oh yeah and their companions suck tooCorrect, but Larian isn't better in that regard, since of the companions from BG3, only 4 are tolerable and just because they are fuck toys
>>744530753>Can't you kill the orc in an accident or something?He'll sacrifice himself if you don't fix their relationship and he wishes you a happy life if you romance her.
>>744545813It's true, and that's his wife or something like that (they're in an open relationship). It doesn't really matter, since he's a coder, not a writer or a designer.
>>744515684I dont care to be honest, good for them and for Baldurs Gate fans, i'm a Larian fan, i like their game design, for me Baldurs Gate is just another setting, they could take any setting and make it fun. It does matter a little bit for the setting, but its not a huge deal to me.I also think the original Baldurs Gate games are not that amazing, they are solid RPGs dont get me wrong, but not something im a huge fan of, so for me i dont give a single shit about BG4, i may play it if it ends up a success but im not a fan of the series.
>>744547009nice!but it would be cooler if I could kill him in secret! that would be devilish!!
>>744547117He's evil so killing him would be good
>>744519357I will take left every day of the week
>>744519357
>>744547595i miss my mage with one gorillion situational spells.
>>744532606It's canon because the writers wrote so. This means Shart is so. You avoiding seeing her true personality doesn't change the 'written as so'
>>744519042dude it's literally all women and vtubers, just look at twitch. this is the audience the game caters to.
>>744519042>>744549279botted and shilled by tencent. the game lost millions after license fees and marketing costs.
>>744534303>t. never played a larian gamebarrels were a staple in DoS2
>>744518286There is more rp options and character development in bg3 than the last 10 final fantasy/Atlus/Owlcat slop games combined. Shut the fuck up retard.
>>744520748Overcorrection is also an error. 5e is too limited owlkek systems are too expansive. Nobody understands balance anymore, but I guess we can cope and just stay away from overpowered builds still though the user shouldn't have to curate his experience like this.
>>744549598You know i'm right. Player-sexual also means everyone is canonically gay. It's terrible writing and Larian are hacks. The game is girl-coded af, most of the gamers playing BG3 right now are women.
>>744515684>more gay bear sexPass.
>>744549856>most of the gamers playing BG3 right now are womenLarian released statistics showing that the three most popular romances were the girls, not Astarion, or any other guy
>>744516024More
>>744520962>and can't have insane George Lucas dialogue.That was the fun of Rogue TraderThe only issue I have with BG3 though is that it feels like literally everyone is trying to fuck you. You are an uber special boy and everyone loves you. Besides that I loved the game.
>>744515684Is calling the Girdle of masculinity/femininity a cursed item problematic?
>>744549997That's not now. The only people playing now do dress up.
