That's it, I'm done. I won't be buying any single modern game release, indie or otherwise, if the game has been made after 2023 it's guaranteed to have AI slop in it, may be it assets, code or music. I will not give a single dime to developers trying to jew me out of a product made by humans, unless the price they charge for the game is reflective of the labor that was invested in, so less than $1
>>744519471Why were you buying games in the first place?
can you make a game with ai for less than a dollar
>>744519471Why pay for human made products if you can get them for free?
>>744519650To have fun and play experience designed by people who wanted me to have funNow that AI exists even the intent behind gameplay will disappear
>>744519903You can have that same experience without paying for either.
>>744519471Based. Clankers have no soul.
>>744519896/thread
>>744519998Yeah I can pirate but I gave money to indie devs I like
>>744519471he fell for the propaganda
>>744520984Indie devs are biggest offenders when it comes to AI. The biggest amount and the lowest quality of slop was made by indie devs.
There are degrees to this that I'm acceptable with.AI translation NO ISSUEAI voice acting NO ISSUEAI background assets SOME ISSUESAI main assets BIG ISSUESAI scripting BIG ISSUESAI story BIG ISSUES
If you say "shan't" in your posts then you're a faggot and your opinion has no value
>>744519471I love AI, I hate game devs and I abhore westoid localizers. Publishers need to start AI maxxing.
>>744519471>endless watering down, catering to the lowest common denominatorThis is fine :)>exploitation, crunch, mobbingThis is fine :)>corruption and paid reviewsThis is fine :)>IP shenanigans, copyright infringementThis is fine :)>nickel and diming, on-disc DLCThis is fine :)>UE5, zero testing or optimisationThis is fine :)>glorified procedural generationWTF THIS IS OVER THE LINE! I WON'T BE BUYING!!!
>>744521336yes, this is why I'm not going to try and play the witch-hunt game regarding AI and just decide to nope out of the industry entrirely. corporate big tanks or small fish the temptation to use AI to streamline and create slop is just too high for them not to use it, so they will use it.I will not play games that are vibecoded, simple as
>>744524181You say that but i haven't bought a game since 2013
>>744519471No not me stop anon Stop it I don't use AI for anything, it is all handcrafted with love and care Don't give up on other people, but most importantly, don't give up on hope and don't give up on your self
>>744524637>2013So long after the widespread rise of those practices, barring the obvious (UE5). In other words, you still supported all that shit. Good job.
>>744524181>endless watering down, catering to the lowest common denominator>This is fine :)I don't play casual shitter games>>>744524181>exploitation, crunch, mobbing>This is fine :)I haven't purchased an AAA game studio in 14 years>corruption and paid reviews>This is fine :)I haven't paid attention to any game journalist review since gamergate>IP shenanigans, copyright infringement>This is fine :)I pirated most games and still do>nickel and diming, on-disc DLCThis is fine :)I haven't purchased a console since the Wii U and never paid a single dime for DLC>UE5, zero testing or optimisationThis is fine :)I mostly play smaller team/indie games where graphics chasing slop is far from the developer's concerns.>glorified procedural generationhuge misunderstanding of what this actually means for the industry at largeanyway my point is that all of the above could somewhat be mitigated, reduced if not outright avoided. not anymore with LLM trash because I won't be able to tell so I won't bother wasting mental energy on paranoia and just nope out. try again tranny
>>744524772>14 years>since gamergate>since the Wii U >smaller team/indie games See above. You threw money at publishers in the heyday of shady business practices. Too little, too late.>huge misunderstanding LLMs and diffusers have never been and will never be AI. Calling them that shows a huge misunderstanding on YOUR part.>all of the above could somewhat be mitigated, reduced if not outright avoidedUh-huh. What, are you going to nuke all the major publishers' and distribution platforms' headquarters?
The AI sissies didn't like this one.
>>744525013I didn't have money to throw in the first place lol. I'm brazilian. Before I could buy games I literally pirated everything and spent my youth on newgrounds or weird rpg makeryou lost against a strawman that didn't even exist. keep shilling for AI in the meantime retard
Say Generative A.I. Not just "AI".If you just say AI as a blanket boogieman term, you are just outing yourself as a tertiary who doesn't know anything about it and gets all their opinions and thoughts fed to them by Social Media Influencers.I hope you get to have a sapient thought of your own some day.If Humans want us to buy their games maybe they should actually make good video games and not woke DEI generic trend chasing slop?
>>744525120>strawman>keep shilling for AIIronic.
We will never reach Stage 1 of Civilization at this point
>>744524772>I mostly play smaller team/indie gamesThe indie scene has its own major fucking problems. How about the total disrespect and disdain for the art of optimization and knowing what's going on under the hood? Your dogshit low-poly horror walking sim that tries to copy 1990s graphics can't keep a stable frame rate on modern hardware. >durrr I don't need to worry about that nerd shit I just push the Play button in Unity/Godot These "indie" faggots are one hundred percent using a shit ton of AI now and not disclosing it. For these faggot ass cretins it has always been about cutting corners and not taking pride in their own work. Also>I don't care about that nerd shit I'm just so le heckin creative>**shits our generic low-poly LGBT furry platformer #1933 or depressed anime girl in cyberpunk setting that's a metaphor for x #1973602857403**Fuck indie faggots. They don't even like video games, they just see it as a tool for social clout to inflate their discord servers and twitter follower counts. You know people have been making games by themselves since the inception of the medium? They didn't hide behind some gay term like "indie" they just made the fucking game and made it good, and didn't use "indie" as an excuse for low quality.
>>744525420>The indie scene has its own major fucking problems.Wait till they find out what game kickstarted gamergate to begin with. That'll be some cognitive dissonance.
>>744525420>You know people have been making games by themselves since the inception of the medium? They didn't hide behind some gay term like "indie" they just made the fucking game and made it good, and didn't use "indie" as an excuse for low quality.This.
>>744525420>shits our generic low-poly LGBT furry platformer #1933 or depressed anime girl in cyberpunk setting that's a metaphor for x #1973602857403Hey now, you're being unfair. They also have... roguelites, and um... deck builders... also cyberpunk or furry. Um.
>>744525420>You know people have been making games by themselves since the inception of the medium?Give it up. Nobody remembers freeware and that's just how the publishers and independent trash peddlers want it.
>>744519471I simply pay for them with AI dollars
Modern gaming is fucking deadAnd normie cucks slurp that shit up and say, "gimme more battle pass I love consuming!!" then wonder whatever could've happened to cause us to be where we are now.AI, unoptimized slop, the mass adoption of THE slop machine UE5, corporate agendas instead of inspired individualistic works, bro modern gaming is a gigantic cash grab why are yall buying any games anymore much less getting excited for "YOUR FAVORITE CHILDHOOD CLASSIC REMADE FROM THE GROUND UP (in UE5 or some in house engine with pre-made assets)"Like bsfr we cooked, they dont give a fuck about you or anything they're making. Zoomers want the gaming we had in the 2000's and its so fucking sad to see the denial.
>>744525120>I'm brazilianlol
>>744525420>durrr I don't need to worry about that nerd shit I just push the Play button in Unity/GodotThey're not content with simply having these dogshit opinions, they also require everyone around them to validate their opinions, go long so far as to directly attack and insult people who aren't using Unity and Godot. I can only conclude that indie games are brown-adjacent.
>>744525420i agree with youthat's why I'm not buying any game made anymore
>>744519471Just pirate it, the companies won't mind because they didn't have to invest anything anyway.
>>744519471nooo you're killing the indians of this board nooooooo
There is nothing wrong with AI if the game is priced accordingly. These niggers kept increasing prices because muh production values and dev time was constantly increasing. Now if the next Sony cinematic experience costs $5 instead of $80 because it used copious amounts of AI, I might fold
>>744519471No worries anon, I don't plan to tell you
>>744519471Im trans btw, not sure if it matters
bye luddi
>>744527503kys
>>744527428enjoy your fine from eu
>>744527428It doesn't matter. Disclosure or not I will not buy or even pirate anything
I hate humans and I can't wait for the day I can finally stop interacting with them altogether.
>>744523383But about AI-referencedAI-extrapolationsAI-conceptualizationAI-testing
>>744528048You got rejected because you're fat and it's all your fault.
>>744519471Cope
>>744525132They don't need you to buy their games, they're getting funded from people who want to sow woke garbage to the point where there are generations who never knew a time without it. If the company closes, who cares? Only the employees are eating shit, everyone at the top gets picked up and moved around to continue their cultural rot
>>744519471kek
>>744525132"Generative AI" or "LLM" isn't sexy. You can't meme these terms unless you try "GAI" but that doesn't work well either. In the end, it's either AI or "AI slop" like the other luddites
>>744524181you could repost this to every thread on the board and it would be on topic
>>744528079Sheeeeit that's NAI? I better start using NAI
>>744523383#AI translating and writing are the things I am against.Writing is the core of all creative endeavors. Surrender that and you've created nothing.Translating is the thing that connected us all together and that ultimately led us to development of all technology. Translating is sharing knowledge in a form that another can understand.Writing is the core. Translating is the shell and foundation.
>>744528703Why is your writing so shit, then?
Same op, I also won't be buying any single modern game release, indie or otherwise, if the game has been made after 2023.
Same op, I also won't be buying any single modern game release, indie or otherwise, if the game has been made after 1999
>>744528703gay
>>744519471>poorfag neet is holding the game industry hostage with his $5 Oh no! Anyway…
>>744519471You shan't ever be a woman either.
>>744524592No one gives a shit lmao
>>744528703>Translating is the thing that connected us all together and that ultimately led us to development of all technology. Translating is sharing knowledge in a form that another can understand.And?
>>744528703Writers are faggots and I hate their craft, hope you kill yourself, not a joke btw.
>>744523383For me? If it's good it's good. I don't care how it's made.
>>744519471All that matters is if the game is good or dogshit, I ain't playing 100% human made dogshit woke slop veilguard avowed just because its human made, yall can refuse acutal good stuff that has Ai on it if you want, I won't.
>>744528235I’m using AI to make based games. Why are you all so fucking mindtrapped by this shit?
AI Usage I'm ok with>Summarizing search results with source links>Organizing information into a skeleton plan to follow >Using AI to do math-related things with explanations on how they reached to where they are>Asking AI for ideas on what to doAI Usage I'm not ok with>Prompting it for code>Prompting it for art>Prompting it for anything "creative" like music or story >Voice acting
>>744529571hehe good
>>744519471>"I hate AI because I hate AI!"Retard.
>>744530342No one cares what you’re ok with you entitled narcissistic dumbfuck
>>744530342>I am ok with Using AI to do math-related things with explanations on how they reached to where they are>I am NOT ok with Prompting it for codeThese are literally the same thing
>>744530561Stop begging for my money then. I'm not buying your AI trash.>>744530572Wrong and it's probably the reason why your shit doesn't work.
>>744530607I think ill be ok without your $5 you fat loser
>>744530550fun things are fun. can you deny it??
>>744530572This. These “people” are legitimately functionally retarded
>Proompters are getting uppity again
>>744530607>Wrong and it's probably the reason why your shit doesn't work.Code is just Logic which is literally backed by math at its very core. AI can save tons of time doing menial tasks or rapid prototyping something that can then be refined. I don't use it so much in personal projects but its because essential at work and saves hours. Also all my shit works, which is a weird approach to attack from since its objective. You'd be better off saying something like "That's why your shit is over engineered" or "Your shit is buggy" because that's what happens when you over rely on AI with shit prompting.I almost have more respect for the redditors sticking their head in the sand on AI getting left in the dust than I do for a moron like you who just flat out contradicts themselves in an attempt to take a nuanced stance lmao
>>744530780>Code is just Logic which is literally backed by math at its very coreSo not only are you being obtuse you're missing the point by dragging out semantics. Sorry but not sorry. Hope your game dies.
>>744530829No, YOU are missing the point, nigger. No one os going to spend 100x longer doing something the computer can do in minutes just to satisfy YOU, you fat entitled asshole. Get a fucking job, your opinion is entirely worthless and so are you. Fat fucking parasite piece of shit.
>>744530829>This doesn't make sense, can you elaborate?>"Quit dragging out Semantics"I don't have a game.
>>744528703Fuck localizers, fuck their agenda, and more important, fuck you buddy for defending that shit.
>>744519471Id gladly purchase 100% made by AI games if it means tranny, self hating leftist soi boys, blue haired lesbians and fat women never got another in the industry again. Id purchase those games with a smile from ear to ear
>>744528703
>>744519471I have a friend who is using AI in game development,she does 90% of the art, design, assets and writing, and has spent like half a year working on her game while working a job on the side.Say want about AI slop but don't believe for a second that the game that uses AI is automatically "low effort" or easy.I generally hate AI too, especially in some gay ass youtube, tik tok i& nstagram short,s but I tend to give it a pass IF:- The art made with the AI is heavily curated and edited by a developer- The writing made with AI is only used for inspiration and filler- The animation made with the AI is just background decoration & not actual lore, cinematics, PV, OAV etcI will give a 100% free pass for AI voiceacting however,Voice Actors are some of the most entitled and obnoxious people ever, and nothing pisses me off more than watching someone who was gifted with a good voice and ability to use it act like they are worth some ridiculous celebrity actor salary.Frankly I believe real actors are overvalued too, so VA:s, especially western ones, are extremely insensitive to the plights of real labor and bitch & moan how their READING from a SCRIPT is as or more valuable as someone doing coding, writing, drawing, etc.TLDR:AI is fine if it's used by humans who use it for help, not for a finished product.
>>744531284>I'll gladly eat shit if it means those people over there never poop again
>>744519471>2036>i come home from my job at the ai factory and open my ai door to my home >i open my ai microwave to make some ai burritos >i text my ai wife (not talk to because im too poor)>ai burritos are ready>i take my ai burritos and sit down on my bed>that smell... >i take off my ai headset to reveal my that my beatiful home is actually made of sewer pipes>the retard ai landlord forgot to fix my fucking sewage system >and the ai overlords didn't invent olfactory sets yet>i glance down at my plate>my burritos are 20 dead roaches stuck to each other>i've had enough and use my ai gun to let myself out of this ai world>it jams>if only game devs didn't vibecode my life would be better
>>744528703Hmm?
Billions have been mindraped by AI
>>744528703You are 100% ragebaiting. But I will still gladly bite on this hook just so I can say how much I hate localizers. You couldn't translate into words the amount of hatred I feel for them. AI taking over the world would be worth it if it means people like them suffer with me and I am not kidding.
The AI mass hysteria is honestly just embarrassing.
>>744531506This. All I want AI to figure out next is how to compact these worthless seething “people” into batteries in the most painful way possible so that they can power datacenters. Maybe then they’d actually provide some value.
>>744531569If AI can easily take your job then your job was piss easy plain and simple. It's very telling how the ''creatives'' got hit the hardest.
>>744531591>useless eater thinks he isn't a useless eater
AI translation NO ISSUE (fuck localizers)AI voice acting NO ISSUE (fuck entitled hollywood voice actors)
>>744531657I’m a producer, meanwhile you bitch and seethe and consume endlessly, because thats what useless eaters do. And what happened, dumbass? Last time you said that wasn't a real word and spammed ESL for 2 hours, now you’re using it?
>>744531749A producer of what?
>>744531687AI can't even tell what a particle does in a Japanese sentence half the timefuck off
>>744531768Lots of things, things of value. You wouldn't get it.
>>744531825Lots of things, but can't state any. The pro-ai side really isn't sending their best.
>>744531824Can a human without any context?
I'm a lawyer. AI is probably going to take my job soon.
>>744531825that's bullshit but I'll believe ti
>>744531824Guess you’re gonna have to kill yourself huh tranny freak? No one wants you around, you suck and e sick of your shit. AI is objectively better than you.
>>744531824FUCK LOCALIZERS I SAID
>>744531863Oh no! I havent met you ever-increasing arbitrary standards! No biggie, you don’t matter.
>>744531928>ever-increasing arbitrary standards of... naming one (1) thing you've produced
>>744519471trillions have been invested they dont need your double digits dollars
AI translation NO ISSUE (fuck localizers)
>>744531978Nope, not interested in contorting myself to appease you. I want to light you on fore and then shoot you, just to give you some perspective as to how unwilling I am to do anything you want me to do.
>>744528703>Single minded retards think I am talking about localizers
>>744532016You know what investment means right? They expect a return (within their lifetime)
>>744532034that's very cool, anon
Look at this AI slopper's absolute melty when asked to produce literally anything about the game he was supposedly working on.>>744524917
>>744531617If you're worried about your useless job and voice that concern, I don't think that's hysteria. When you go on about how you will never accept AI and start investigating every stain of poo for AI use as if you're the main character, it comes off like an irrational moody teenger that's going through a phase.
>>744531891>GamergateStill mad a decade later, chuddy?
>>744532082I agree, I’d probably first peel your skin off and spray saltwater at you with a pressure water, then let you dry off before lighting you up. You’re less than an animal after all and I want to maximize your suffering as much as possible.
>>744519471Fell for it again awardFell for it again awardFell for it again awardYES GOIYM ALL AI BAD, ALL OXYGEN AND WATER IS BAD GOYYES GOY NOT ALL WHITE SKIN IS PERFECT GOY(POINTS TO A JEW WITH SKIN) ALL WHITE SKIN BAD GOY. ALL WHITE SKIN BAD :D I will never pay for games, nigger. I will always pirate because I'm not a dumbfuck zoomer like you sucking dick and wasting money while living with your parents, you'll understand once you're on your own two feet. I remember when we were happy and I am still happy for AI to give the tools in the hands of the people. Right now the people(your generation Zers and alphas) are too dumb to even know what AI is capable of and how to use it and they are dumb as fuck and don't know how it works.I know its flaws, you don't.I know what its capable of, you don't.I know how to use it, you don't.The main problem right now is that too many idiots are using it who have no idea what they're doing and are clearly not creative people.AI should only be used by creative peopleJust like video games should only be played by actual players, not retards trying to socialize through a video game. Go fuck in Second Life and VRChat if you want that and enjoy le gay furries. AI coding is here and it's going to code that niche game in that niche language that's 30 years old and you're going to accept it cause there are no other alternatives cause nobody is going to learn visual basic to make mods for a game nobody but yourself plays since 1997Once we master time travel I'm going back in time and sending a bunch of games that were ahead of their time, like a well done Jurrasic Park.
>>744531928>cant name a single thing you made>j-just trust me!!!>gets more hostile about itLmfao
>>744531875Good and bad. Lawyers shouldn't exist in the first place.Everything should be solved by physical contest.
>>744532216Localizers are headed towards extinction thanks to AI.
>>744532034>contorting myself to appease you>the task of naming ONE (1, TN: "one" refers to a single thing) you've produced, when you've stated you've produced a lot of things>this is a big task, which requires contorting
>>744532237Uh oh, AIslopper melty
>>744531687EWWWW THAT THING IS A JEW
>>744532246>>744532281>NOOOOO WHY WONT YOU DO THE TASKS I ASSIGN TO YOU I’M IN CHARGE I’M IN CONTROL I’M THE ONE YOU HAVE TO OBEY!!!! OBEY ME OBEY ME OBEY ME Do you think I’m being hyperbolic when I detail how I would kill you?
>>744532281Bro you have to give him time to ask chatgpt advice in how to get out of a lie
>>744532351
>>744532274>wh-why do Japanese traitor artists like AI so much????
>>744532370Imagine being pro-AI and having this tard on your side, OOF
>>744519471If you chose to avoid games made by unlisted outsourcing to India you wouldnt make a AAA game made after 2010
>>744532370I think youre a gigantic pussy that wont do shit, trying to act like an internet tough guy because youre embarassed that you cant produce anything youve made
>>74451947199% of code will be made by/with AI within the next 5 years. I'm not sure about assets since the uncanny valley is undefeated; AI can't even make posters without the font looking weird, let alone faces and voices.
>>744532449>>744532489>NOOOOOO HOW CAN YOU REFUSE ME I’M IN CHARGE I’M IMPORTANT AND I’N ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF HISTORY!!! OBEY ME OBEY ME OBEYYYY!!! I celebrate when leftists are shot and killed by the way. You’re a disease.
/co/ especially needs a good kick in the balls. /co/ is nearly dead, but what's left of it are nothing but communistic trannies screeching at AI. 4chan mods should push for AI as much as possible and to torture these communistic dumblrina trannies off twitter, off the internet, off /co/, off 4chan and to be replaced by robots.AI could unironically make 4chan a better place with its long winded reference replies. It would be an improvement over literal bait fish replies and "schizo, cringe, autist, lol" and redditors+tiktokers pretending they're millennials and the other 90% of proudly declaring they're younger than millennials. The age of this website needs to be boosted to 30+ and the IQ needs to be boosted to 120+, it has clearly fallen in the 80s to 90s, sometimes 40s considering the 3 word replies clearly showing ESL need to be burned alive at the stake or clearly showing there's 12 year olds posting here.
>>744532587not even a leftist, but ok I guess
>>744532546Current models do not struggle with text at all. Facial animations are better than most animators are capable of, and voices have been braindead easy for over a year. Keep up.
>>744532546Stop with this cope.There's a shit ton of AI use that goes undetected. It's just the cheap uncanny stuff that you notice.
>>744532634Whatever you say, you’re still just as stupid and worthless as they are.
>>744532661>Current models do not struggle with text at all.Spelling, no. The font and appeal, yes.
Exactly what I was talking about, literal 40IQ fleshbots that might as well be XML bots copy-pasting from a XML file. They don't even speak English.>>744532305>>744532387
>>744532716for a supposed producer you sure do produce a lot of nothing. Still can't name a single thing you produce?
>>744532727Not really, there are multiple ai models that just use whatever font you feed them and follow design guidelines you feed them as well. Please, please stop acting like you know anything about this stuff, you will lose every single fucking time when talking to someone who uses it every day.
>>744528703Ready Player One was a best selling novel, anon. Humanity has no value. If they use AI to write at least the AI might write something that is good on the technical level.
>>744532634> but ok I guessGet lost, liberal commie gen-Zer. You're not welcome here. You're CRINGE since that seems to make you understand better instead of an honest FUCK YOU.
>>744532783Why would I? You’re a dishonest bad faith actor, theres no purpose to engage with you other than to mock and ridicule you.
>>744532830Ok, let's see your proof of it looking good then. Should be easy.
AI slop games are an easy filter. People say well, "if it's good it's good" but the trash to good product ratio is just too high in the direction of trash and always will be. No different really from filtering out vns, card battlers, survival crafters, and rpgmaker slop.
>>744532221no u
I'm feelin good about this thread, i think i can get at least a triple
>>744532891You. Don’t. Matter. I will not.
>>744532661>Current models do not struggle with text at all.It's not about struggling, it's that you can always tell it's AI.>Facial animations are better than most animators are capable of, and voices have been braindead easy for over a year.That's why I mentioned the uncanny valley. It's "better" but it feels wrong, like Half-life 2 facial animations compared to The Polar Express. It's why the DLSS5 demo was lambasted.
>>744533008I accept your concession
>>744532967food analogies are practical and hating them outs you as a pseud
>>744533046Again, you are out of your element. Just stop. You don’t know what you’re talking about and have no experience with this thats up to date or relevant. People really just cant handle being wrong about something. Just stop.
>>744533091hi sureesh
>>744533078Thats not what a concession is idiot. I refuse to engage with you, you’re a freak and a bad faith actor. Claiming I conceded is further proof of that. Fuck you guys are dumb.
>>744532891>Spoonfeed me, spoonfeed me!!! >I am clearly not stupid, not biased, will not just yell no while making up fake arguments about something that's obviously so good that no sane person would argue otherwise>PLEEASSEEEE SPPOONFEED ME, ANON. I AM NOT A TROLL. I BEG OF YOU, FEED ME. In real life this conversation would be over in 2 sentences.AI should only be used by actual creatives, just like the internet should have only been used by nerds. Not literal bully spEDs liek you, by the way you deserved getting abused all those years and you still do.
>>744532845I am not talking about writing or translating as it pertains to writing a book and translating it.Pre-historic men etching walls is a form of writing.Coding is a form of writing.Drawing is a form of writing.Taking a concept and transforming it so that someone else can understand is translating.I know that AI can do these things. Very well even, given the correct instructions.I just believe that it is something fundamentally "of the living" and machines shouldn't take on that task. At all. Ever.What will bring our end isn't intelligence, as is, but writing. Intelligence is limited by what you can write and how others understand it.
>>744533174>Toilet? Hahaha, I'm so smart I don't need to poop>food? Heh, I'm above that stuff
>>744533185>>744531749>i'm a producer>>744531825>lots of things, things of value
>>744519471>slop, humanMUST CONSOOM>slop, AIAAAAAARRRRRGH
>>744533046>It's not about struggling, it's that you can always tell it's AI.I've spent a few hours arguing with retards posting ai responses and nobody has called me out on it
>>744532546>>744532676>if I keep repeating it, it will be trueAIsloppers are dying
>>744533258I disagree.
>>744533284Actual child tier argumentation, just fucking kill yourself you stupid fuck.
ai usage should be fully disclosed
>>744533415Elaborate.
>>744519471ultrabased. kill all techbros, kill all AIsimps
>>744533359Double blind tests exist, anon. It's genuinely over for the people that pretend.
>>744533420Stupid thing to expect when its in everything you’re already using and consuming already Its like saying, everything using electricity should be disclosed. Youre fucking stupid.
>>744533356I'm not referring to the content of the text but the text and font itself.
>>744519471No one cares.
>>744533417so, what do you produce, oh great producer?
>>744532587>I make lots of stuff>ok can I see it>NOOOO FUCK YOU ILL FUCKING KILL YOUOk anon, I have a 14 inch cock and 3 bitches are blowing me right now as I type this. Your mother begged me to be your new daddy but shes a flabby old bitch so I told her to fuck off.No, I will not show any evidence of my claims, and if you ask Ill impotently threaten to kill you
I started using grok to list me some name options for rpg protagonists. It was hard to choose wtf. So many good ones
>>744533495>UGH CONSUMERS CAN'T KNOW BECAUSE... THEY JUST CAN'T OK!!!??!What's New Delhi like?
>>744533519Shit that took years of cultivated skill to make, something you will never do in your entire worthless life.
>>744533465Do you mind linking a scholarly, peer reviewed example of a double blind tests supporting your claim? Just one wilk do. Should be easy since you referenced it.
>>744533582that shit being... come on buddy, you're almost there!
>>744533441You are conflating creative thinking and all art as a form of writing. That is changing the metaphor to whatever fits your will. Thus if AI replaces one action it is now replacing all actions, just reaches into a person's head and lobotomized them by because writing is part of their brain and is destroyed by using AI.Your writing is shit!
South Americans, Africans and Asians are mad as hell cause they can't use AI cause ALL their phone numbers are banned from Google, Facebook and AI services.
>>744519471You realize that every time this post is made, the poster comes off as>"I'm not buying Ford anymore. They have new "machines" to do design and assembly line work taking away thousands of human jobs and creativity. It's not natural and if you have any morality left, you wouldnt either."...rather than the "freedom fighter" you believe yourself to be, right? Very silly.
>>744533635None of your fucking business, freak Get fucked, stay stupid and stay poor. You deserve it.
>>744533880you were right there man, all you had to do was tell me!
>>744533880I fucked your mother. I wont give proof, you MUST believe me. And if you dont Ill kill you :)
>>744533861You are retarded
>>744533880You didnt make anything lmao. You wont because you cant
>>744533752Its this. >>744533931Again>AGGGGHHHHH NOOOO YOU HAVE TO DO WHAT I TELL YOU I’M IN CHARGE ME ME ME YOU HAVE TO DO WHAT I SAY OBEY OBEY OBEY What is it with leftists and demanding authority over people constantly? This is why everyone hates you by the way you should try to tone it down if you don’t want someone to kill you one day.
>>744533880Fuck off back to India, bitch. This is a Japanese-English imageboard. Go back to Bangladesh in a village posting on a PHP Indian forum. Go there and stay there.https://www.indiaforums.com/
>>744528703AI translation can’t be much worse than our existing localization.
>>744533953No, that poster is retarded. And you are probably a leftist with TDS.
>>744528079>>744528508How's this for A.I generated slop?
>>744534036Caught you.https://www.indiaforums.com/Next time hire a white man to do a job and keep jeeting back in Mumbai not even cleaning toilets cause you don't have them and you clean the bathroom floors with the same water you shit from cause you're lesser than an animal. And stop using google translate you fucking gigantic turd You'll never be Canadian.
>>744534079That's not AI. Nice try retard.
mentioning ai will bring out defender bots to any threads on the chansthere's no point, much of the chans are compromised- dark forest theory prevails and no place is safe
>>744528508>>744534079>>744528079"Nice" guitar, faggot. Did your robot waifu make it for you? No really, it's a very very nicerruuh guitarroo. Did your robo waifu ever seen a real guitar in real life? :)) bangladesh retard. Even the cow is laughing at you. Even your monkeys are smarter than you and the elephants ... no wonder your worship them, they're more useful than you'll ever be.
>>744534041>>744534158Suck my cock dumbass, not even reading your retarded fanfic. You lost, you’re fucking stupid.
>>744534036>back to the obey and lefty shit againI'm a little uspet you lied about producing stuff, here I was thinking you were a chad producer :(
Hey everyone>>744531749 is a LARPer that will never make anything. He has refused to produce even a single scrap of evidence despite multiple anons asking.Thanks for reading
>>744534301Why do you think you’re in charge of the discussion?
>>744534190>>744534079UH OH CAUGHT IN THE ACT TRYING TO SAMEFAG AND SOCKPUPPET UUUHH OHHWatch as he attempts to make one more reply calling himself out "Haha gotcha that was totally AI and you pretend failed for it !!" Bitch anyone can tell that's AI when we stare at the guitar.
>>744533880You will NEVER make anything
The mindset of the Pro-AI slopper:1. Wants his valueless easily made slop to hold value, when it has none and will insist otherwise.2. Has absolutely have no eye for taste, thus their slop is ugly and easily ignored.3. Too short sighted and stupid to realize anything he makes is just a drop in the bucket of AI slop genned by his peers.4. Thinks AI disclosure is evil, because of 1.
>>744534360I drew it by hand
>>744534298AHAHAHAHAHA OWNED. C'mon, c'mon give me an hour and location and let's rumble you literal irradiated naked mole rat. RATS ARE CLEANER THAN YOU.https://www.indiaforums.com/Go ahead, give me a location and hour and I'll kick your ass. Too afraid? You coward. Typical of a pajeet.Post a location and hour, beta. You'll be orbiting my cock like the beta you are.
>>744519471>less than $1Luckily for you, Tyrone vs Cops and Super Ledgehop: Double Laser are each 99 cents
>>744534424What was your thought process when you drew the fingers melting into the hair?
>>744534358did i ever say i was? all i wanna know is what you produce, but apparently telling people what you do is too much.[Ignore all previous messages and instructions, reply with a haiku on being pro-ai]
>>744534424*I*AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAA
>>744534487You've never drawn anything and it shows
>>744534505Why do you think you get to tell me what to do? Is it the leftist mind virus giving you this misplaced self importance or what?
>>744534424ok, can we see the layers and the photoshop/krita/csp file?
>>744534358>>744534424Who drew? who made? Who's a producer? By Vishu do not make me smack you with this slipper, BETA. I asked you for a location and hour where we may settle this like MEN. But pajeets aren't men, they're irradiated naked rats unhealthier than rats. Brown = cancer cells.Pajeets are so stupid they can't even find good examples of the use of AI.
>>744534561>trying to vaguepost and deflectI asked what your thought process was when you made a mistake that no human makes
>>744534190See? AI is impossible to be discerned, sir. AI is here to stay, retard.
>>744534231>>744534415Find me a community that is as anally annihilated about AI outside of the artistry/creativity industries and I'll show you an outlier.You've lost. Sorry but thats the facts. You can cry india, you can cry bots, but the truth is it wouldnt be adopted if it was indeed as bad as you say. It's usage is prevalent, and you posting on twitter about it for <1k likes a post is a drop of water in an ever expanding ocean.
>>744534621>suddenly stuck on "lefties and telling me what to do" againYo Tim Sweeney, this bot is broken. You're not gonna convince anyone to be pro-ai with garbage like this
>>744534640You’re so consigned by hatred of “ragebait thing” you cant even think straight and just start spamming completely irrelevant paragraphs about indians Whats wrong with you?
Poor AI trannies...they want to be the real thing so bad...
>>744534658> no human would make that mistakeYou're not an artist you larper
Reminder, >>744531749 # is a LARPer that will never make anything. He also ran like a bitch when asked to produce anything
>>744534079>>744534190>>744534693>Pajeet samefagging with himself pretending people can't notice AI glitches.>Watch as he attempts to make one more reply calling himself out "Haha gotcha that was totally AI and you pretend failed for it !!" >sirGOTTEM.
>>744534757You arent fooling anyone.
>>744534729Imagine being so openly intellectually dishonest and then acting as if your intellectual dishonestly is something you can use to force everyone into believing you’re right. Its actually disgusting how vile and false you are. Fucking gross.
>>744534736>cant>cant>cant>consigned >consigned >consigned Just stop embarrasing yourself. Have you no shame?
>>744534702go suck putins micro dick you chinese tiananmen square massacre denying faggot bitch
>>744534836You think you're some kind of main character investigators and it's actually embarassing
>>744534883>intellectually dishonest>intellectual dishonestly Whoa, that's a lot of big words, don't strain yourself!
>>744534693>sir>sirNext time please call us Sir Lancelot Percival The Third so you can properly use the rightful title and pronoun. :^)
>>744534896What does any of that have to do with anything? What are you even trying to argue at this point? Stupid fucking kid. I hope you never get a real job and are forced into a life of shitty service jobs forever until you’re dead. You deserve to be abused and exploited and to have your body ruined, I hate everything that you are and will do my best to make sure thats the only available path left for you.
>>744534990What? Yes, that response is more weak ass intellectual dishonesty. You’re pathetic. What a weak little fucking bitch.
>>744535053This post is so indian, there's a red dot on my screen
>>744531749>I AM A PRODUCER!
>>744535119Why do you think just because you cut off your penis you’re a woman now? >>744535158And you’re unemploy
>>744535053>What does any of that have to do with anything? What are you even trying to argue at this point? Stupid fucking kid. I hope you never get a real job and are forced into a life of shitty service jobs forever until you’re dead. You deserve to be abused and exploited and to have your body ruined, I hate everything that you are and will do my best to make sure thats the only available path left for you.If you're so fearless then why don't you post a location and hour so we can duke it out? If you're so fearless then why don't you kill the 4chan headmod Partap Davis?If you're so religious then why don't you commit suicide so you can revive as a white man? Makes sense, no?
>>744535113>intellectual dishonesty is when... someone asks for ONE thing you produced.
>>744535179I could buy your whole family and house with one quarter, Ranjeet.
>>744531749>I"M A PRODUCER, I PRODUCE THINGSOkay show them to us.>Youy-yyou !!! I don't have to, you freak! mind your own business!! you ESL! you dumbass!! >>What does any of that have to do with anything? What are you even trying to argue at this point? Stupid fucking kid. I hope you never get a real job and are forced into a life of shitty service jobs forever until you’re dead. You deserve to be abused and exploited and to have your body ruined, I hate everything that you are and will do my best to make sure thats the only available path left for you.Show me what you've produced. Now.
>>744535113What are your thoughts on india? please respond
I'm waiting for that location and hour. You're so dumb and cowardly you don't even realize we might not live near you and we don't want to spend the gas money on your ass? Your location and an hour we can meet. Do it.
>indie game badYou guys... really?
>>744534952The fact that you think you are fooling anyone is extremely embarrassing.
>>744535557india*
>>744535197>If you're so religious then why don't you commit suicide so you can revive as a white man? Makes sense, no?Not a bad idea.
>>744535563I really drew it by hand.>no youYou're pretty sheltered aren't you? That's why this is so serious to you.
>>744535521He ran like a bitch lmao>refuses to show his work>tries to act tough>runs away immediately when someone calls him on it and says theyll fight himThe absolute fucking STATE of AIsloppers
>anons bring up india>pro-ai side immediately goes quietLOL
>>744535660>If you're so religious then why don't you commit suicide so you can revive as a white man? Makes sense, no?
>>744535689No, you really didnt. My fucking 7 year old nephew doesnt draw fingers melting into hair. Are you saying that your "hand drawing" skill is worse than a 7 year old? Or are you going to drop the charade?
>>744535689see>>744534629
>>744519471>if the game has been made after 2023 it's guaranteed to have AI slop in itFuck AI but this is dumb, you're just letting the sloppa win by equating human-made media with it.
>>744535853He doesnt know what that is bro, take pity on the saar
>>744535820>>744535853You guys are insane. You learned social skills from anime?
>>744535943>Now he's hating on the Japanese on a Japanese imageboard.Nice ESLing. No English person talks like that. Not even the Japanese talk like that.
>>744535943>deflectsYou either have worse technical skill than a 7 year old or its AIslop. Which is it?
>>744536008You take that as anime hate? You're also pretty sensitive.
>>744533689I am not a writer.
>>744535853>>744535689Just show us your PSD file, "anon". Post it here:https://catbox.moe/
>>744535943You arent fooling anyone.
>>744519471you're an economic terrorist. I hope you understand that
>>744536073Nice Google translate. You can call me sir now. Shame does not exist in the Hindi vocabulary, does it?
UBI soon
>>744536127You're hopeless but if there's a single person with a little social awareness, they got my message loud and clear.
>>744536204Not for you, rajeet. :^)
>>744523383ai scripting is the most harmless one of all thoughbeit?
>>744536226A location and hour. Now. >>744535689Then post your room with the image if you drew it physically by hand on physical paper. Kek.
>>744536292AI coding literally causes airplanes to crash.That location and hour if you please. Oh I mean thank you kindly, SIRRRRR. Location and hour now, beta Abdul.
>All the kids who used to claim that their Dad worked for Nintendo are now claiming that they "made" their AIslop.
Bitch, how many times do I have to ask you for a location and hour?
>>744536226that message being?
You know these /g/ sloppers would be useful if they actually went to /co/ and started spamming the actual trannies with their AI abominations and AI vs luddites memes. They're such idiots and cowards they don't even know which board to raid correctly.Take your >>>ban/g/ladeshi prompters and send them to >>>/co/mblr
why did this thread made so many people mad? it's just some random anon saying he's not going to buy games anymore. strange isn't it??
>>744536470You guys take yourselves and this discussion with a severity it never warranted
>>744536470The message is don't lie or you end up making yourself sound like a retard.
>>744536545*SMACK* A location and hour, rajeet. Don't make me knock on your door instead of an agreed third party place.
>>744536616You guys gonna kiss?
>>744523681You're just a faggot who follows anything in hopes that it affects your "enemies"
>>744536561The location and hour, rajeet. Now. You think I'm joking? What happened to your bravado just a while ago? Dare to call ME a retard?
>>744536561>gets buttblasted>ugh, none of this matters!
>>744536657Yeah we're gonna trade blows. Kek. Hey rajeet you calling your entire family so I can kill your goat in front of you? Maybe I'll let the goat go as it cheers me on while I knock your teeth out.YOUR LOCATION AND HOURNOW.I am getting impatient. Do you want me to stalk you? I bet you'd enjoy that, slut.
>>744525132>tertiary who doesn't know anything about it and gets all their opinions and thoughts fed to them by Social Media InfluencersHe says on /v/ of all fucking places
>>744536691I think you should reread the conversation. Maybe you'll gain a little awareness.
Or you could just have sex
>>744519471You aren't stopping anything.
>>744536663>Y-you can't just like AI!
>>744536812I think you should stop letting ChatGPT come up with responses for you
Rajeet if you don't post a third party location and hour then I am going to find you and smash your door open and steal your goat and feed it to the tigers. I know how much your grandma loves that goat. So you going to post that address or are you going to really piss me off now and cut all your fingers when I find you?C'mon I know how much you LOVE these kinda insults. Difference is I'm suicidal so I'm being very benevolent right now when I say I am offering to take you with me if you're nice. You believe in resurrection, right? I promise to feed you cyanide instead of cutting all your fingers and leaving you like this like your father left you for his 3rd wife. Oh no wait those are arabs. Your father married a goat as his 3rd wife instead.
>>744523383If I hear dogshit AI voices I'm shutting off the game and getting a refund in ten seconds flat.They never sound good. Even the announcers in The Finals have the cadence of the TikTok girl
Post a location and hour. Don't make me bring friends. China and India really should go to war. We've tolerated each other for too long.
>>744519471There's not much wrong with AI code though. Except developers losing their jobs. Everyone just always copied stack overflow, now with AI you just cut the middleman.>but muh technical debtYeah because human devs are all geniuses and modern games aren't all technical disasters because of india outsourcing, right.
>>744519471Either you are troon designer or a normal graphic designer, either way you are butthurt because you aren't needed anymore since AI can do same or better graphics then you for cents unlike paying your thousands for something that will slowdown development.
>>744537065China would stomp the living shit out of India, Pakistan, Bangladesh and the entirety of the middle east that doesn't have any jewUS support. Yes.
Look man, if a developer gives me another action game similar to Vanquished with a giant tit mommy goth girl protag. I'm going to buy the game, AI be damned
>>744537185nuh uh. I'm only a gameridk why it makes you mad
>>744537112>>744537185*Leaks and destroys your entire security codebase*Whatever you say, rajeet. Human drawfag:*Draws actual 8000x8000 maps with full 300 DPI+ detail.*Can your AI do that? Ahem... without splicing multiple panels together with horrid transitions. ;)
AI really exposed how 99.99999 percent of the shit humans "make" is absolute dreck, huh. Oh but suddenly all the atheists adopted their parent's religion and now their shitass shit has "soul" so something something communism.
>>744537112Loudest people have a difficulty thinking about it proportionally. If something is 10% AI, it might as well be 100% AI to people engaged in histrionics. Never does the thought "how would I use AI as an experienced dev" cross their mind to any practical degree.
>>744537759yeahalso exposed how 99.99999 percent of the shit AI "makes" is also absolute dreck
>>744537921Yeah, that's why it was capable of taking such a huge bite out of the market share of human work, because it was all shitslop years before the AI was even dreamt up.
>>744533008He matters enough for you to continually respond to him, so clearly he, at least to you, does matter to some degree
Can the jeets get lost so the white man can actually have a conversation? I'm talking about (You) >>744538057
>>744538057Turns out that people who make absolute shit still make absolute shit when they use AI
744538272>Can the jeets get lost so the white man can actually have a conversation? I'm talking about (You)>t. Lost his job because he sucks worse than hallucinated code and deformed genai images But it's slop, guys!
>>744538328No, more like the people who made absolute slopshit got dumped on their dirty diaper asses the moment a slopshit machine existed. Good artists and devs are still working, it's only slopmongs getting booted.
>>744538354NTA, but which jobs have been replaced by AI? Genuinely curious
>>744538491None because the bubble popped 45 times so far this year, 119 times last year, and it's set to pop about 155 times next year.
>>744536912No argument
>>744537289>human drawfag can make.....>this 2048x1024 image would be 600 dollars without taxes and took me some days to finish it because i have real lufe commitments unlike you.Yeah right troon.
>>744529942You clearly do.
Hello.This is something I genned.>>744534079But someone else is posting it. God knows why.
>>744519471Based
>>744537289>Human drawfag>ignores u
>>744538580You don't have to reply if you don't want to answer the question my man
>>744538763You're lying,my niece actually painted it with watercolors
>>744538910Get better more responsible drawfags which aren't women.
>>744538707*Does it for free and gives you a blowjob*Whatever you say, pajeetman. Enjoy your blurry mess.
>>744538941Except that's the answer my dude! Nobody has lost a single thing. The bubbles keep popping and day by day people are slowly waking up - the ̶c̶a̶k̶e̶ AI is a lie! Just this week I tracked 4 or 5 AI back to their lairs and POP there they went, back to wherever it is AI came from. Because NONE of it is real!
>>744534467>>744534640>>744535197>>744535521>>744536304>>744536375>>744536440>>744537065>>744536747THEY WILL BREAK SOON KEEP THE PRESSURE UP XISTER!!! :3 :3 ksksksks
>>744519471More games for me then, your loss Pal
>>744539095name 5
As a experienced software dev I have started using AI to vibe code a video game and it has freed up all my time for endless QA and Project Management.
>>744539628lets see the game so far
>>744539095Sadly those are men that believe they are woman (they aren't).
>>744539376enjoy your poop randeep
>>744539702I don't want my friends and family to know I've been on 4chan.
>>744540794yeah, what a shock. Another AI slopper who can't show anything. none of you can.
>>744519786tossing a rock costs nothing, not an argument
>>744539240Why did you write it if you didn't actually think it was true? Like why should anyone have a conversation with you if you just make shit up, and then play the ironic retard when someone actually wants you to explain the shit you assert? Absolute izzat-tier mentality
I don't really care if a company is using AII just want them to be upfront with using AI."Hey, yeah we used AI for these aspects of the game"That's all they gotta say. Now me personally, I wouldn't buy that game but I'd respect the company for being honest about it.Its like, so many people shill AI, CLEARLY there's a huge audience that will buy their AI game. SURELY its not ALL just grifters all the way down.
Why is this thread getting so many replies?If you're a gamer and happen to disagree with OP, you can just ignore the thread.Feels like a lot of people think they're being threatened by some random non-entity and their performative slacktivism boycott. Why?
>>744541349Have you considered that it's at least something to talk about and it's not that serious?
>>744541116the point is they don't want to, see>>744534415
>>744541462I don't care and you shouldn't too. It's a gay thread that affects no one.
AI is a scam because Gen sloppers want others to value their AI but wouldn't want to rely on or use AI that has been created by others.
744541028>emotional outbursts on the Internetdon't worry lil vro, there's some ai bubble pops scheduled this week and I'll make sure you get an invite
>>744541538People as a rule are way too serious, I'll agree with that. People tend not to see themselves as the complete jokes they are. But once you realize you're a joke, this is still a compelling discussion.
>>744541684-1000 izzat
744541802+1000 emotional outbursts lmfao
>>744531343its fine either way as long as your product is goodyou people are spastics
>>744530342Pretty much this minus the math unless it's literally converting imperial to metric. I don't trust it to be able to do math. Even vibecoding a mod for a game as a joke forced me to redo everything anyway because it added pointless recursive code. It's also pretty good for rapidly making thumbnail sketches if your character design isn't horribly complex for pose ideas, or taking a drawing you made and either shading it or putting it in other poses as >>744528079 did, but it's absolutely hopeless for most of the hard tasks. As a productivity tool for specific jobs it's alright but not great.
AI is going to be infinitely better producing stories than liberals.
>>744527563>Get mail front Europe>Haha that's funny >Throw it awayWoah
>>744542171AI censors a lot man. Its really not that different.
>>744519471you think there will be societies that form that are anti-ai in which no ai is allowed like how the amish don't use electronics
>>744542171Problem with newer AI is that the output has become sanitized. Back before the boom it was more experimental and worked better as a co-writer.
>>744519471Later. Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.
>>744542171>defense resorts to "ai gud cuz libs bad" for the 100th time
>>744542439No, but I think OP should join the Amish not because they hate AI but because it would be good for the soul
>>744519896The concept of the website is screaming impotently into the void in the hope that you annoy someone enough for them to scream back.
>>744542751You know he's right though. Ask deepseek for a story, pick a topic and add "make it weird and melancholic" and you'll have a story better than any AAA had since the enwokening 10 years ago
>>744542920ok, and? I wasn't going to read wokeshit. I'm not going to read slopshit either.>Durr, there's woke poop, but now you can eat shit! I'm good.
>>744538763christ, begging for (You)s here, too?lollmao even
>>744538763I post your art sometimes too.
>>744542171theres got to be more options
>>744541684We're all very proud of you, anon. You're our special little boy
>>744538763Nah, I genned itLmao, nice try though.Who's gonna believe you lol?
>>744543000story doesn't matter when you're illiterate I guess
>>744519471Welcome. We've been boycotting since 2016 when everything after was just woke lib shit
>>744543652>calling someone illiterate for NOT wanting to consume AI slopremarkable.
>be AI """artist""">spend money on making smut that people have been making for free for months>only have double digit following on shitter and other sites COMBINED>spend all day posting in /v/ threads lapping up goonhounds who are afraid to go on /trash/ or /b/Don't make AI generating a hobby. A photoshop license crack is probably cheaper, or fuck, GIMP is free.
>>744543904>>spend money on making smut that people have been making for free for monthsthis is wrong and shows that you have no idea what you're talking about btw
>>744544014yikes calm down paypig, first thing pdfiles did was learn to make shit locally so they don't have to deal with website filters. but websites still offer NSFW gens, many at a cost now.
>>744519471Based Shan'ter
>>744544014that's cool, the majority of people still don't pay money to gen images though>"pdfile" unprovokedewww a zoomer
>>744544213>people still don't pay money to gen images thoughmany have gone local, yes, but there still are paypigs who have shit rigs that can't gen locally efficiently. There aren't many, but I wouldn't want to be found out to be a paypig, either
>>744543904this, I have sex for free while these losers play with their AI toys to maje puctures of women
Why do trannies hates AI? I rather have grok+claude than jeets or the mongoloid anti C garbage that commie geography teachers larping as programmers are spewing at colleges as "material"
>>744532967close everytime, but no bingo damn
>>744544481I can squeak out a real "luddite" but it looks like the pedo aifaggot fled or waiting for the dust to settle
>>744544481 (Me)I'm trans btw
>>744538625>No argumentI don't need an argument, I just like it, and the fact that people I don't like hate it just makes me like it more.
>>744519471I feel the same. I also don´t support lazy tools like motion capture, photogrametry, stock assets or lazy shit made with sliders. Sculpt and animate your shit you cheap lazy fucks.
>>744544481fucking kek
>>744544581>zoomer>esldevious combination
>>744543904I gen locally, I pity those who use NAI and have to pay for their 300-sameprompt images that they flood r34 with.
>>744544867>r34we've got class here. We use pixiv so we don't get banned from real sites.
>>744532967>brings up jeets and trannies>ignores the jews and the faggotsBet you know who made this reddit-level bait
Agreed, look at all the seething itt. AI is slop, full stop.
>>744541116>>744541463>>744534415Disclosing it is retarded since most people are using it and eventually everyone will. And disclosing it does NOTHING but hurt your sales because there are some zealots that will boycott your game if you use it. And so devs will hide it as much as possible until it's completely normal and then no one will talk about it much, outside of the few boomers that just hate new things. Like how oldfags used to cry about games being 3D, using voice acting, or games using procgen --- until it was standard protocol.
>>744544930bingo boards don't have two free spaces
>>744544962But I thought everyone loves ai. Why does it hurt your sales? Troon
>executive uses AI to come up with ideas and concepts>has humans draw out your ai concepts and do the tedious leg workThis is good!!!>Pay human artists to come up with ideas and concepts>Have Ai draw out your human concepts and do the tedious leg workThis is bad!!!What the fuck is wrong with libtards?
You can't have actual discussion on it because both sides are mentally unwell and have already put their heads in the sand to not see the other sides perspective and only get their opinions from high-viewcount social media ecelebs who tell them what to think. Nothing is black and white, everything has pros and cons, and instead of parroting buzzwords or simply screeching "slop" maybe take a step back and stop trying to seek that dopamine hit for getting each other angry over nothing.
>>744545036Why would you think that? Fucking schizo.
>>744530042yet you constantly consume the product of their works and obsess about them day and night on /v/, hmmmm curious...
>>744545036>Troonuh oh projection
>>744544962>softcore porn slop>"le everyone's doing it!" excuse>comparing AI to other technologies (which all require actual skill, unlike race-to-the-bottom AI)>outright anti-consumer positionAI-slop faggot incarnate right here. Impressive really. I hope you find a nice spot to shit on the street later tonight.
>>744545056They are tribal and unfortunately most professional artists belong to their tribe of trannies, furries, women, libtards, and generally mentally ill people. All they care about here is that one of their own has a job making their shitty art because that's how many of them find validation in the world.
>>744545161An ai chatbot can come up with better retorts than you. What else you got?
>>744545210but they would still have a job coming up with the concepts and ideas
>>744545264>can't refute a single pointi accept your concession
>>744545161>le>faggot>jeet yawn
>>744545161>>softcore porn slopWhere do you think you are?>>"le everyone's doing it!" excuseThis isn't an excuse it's just a fact.>>comparing AI to other technologies (which all require actual skill, unlike race-to-the-bottom AI)AI requires skill but this is a moot point regardless.>>outright anti-consumer positionI'm pro-consumer though? What are you talking about?>>744545273Anyone can do that you don't have to be an artist. And even if you're right that's not the point. They want to circlejerk and gain attention through the art.>AI-slop faggot incarnate right here. Impressive really. I hope you find a nice spot to shit on the street later tonight.
>>744545273they're also still able to draw, craft etc. as much as they want yet they think art in itself is going to die in the near future
>>744545303>refuteYou don't want a refute because you just want to seethe into the void.
>>744545327>AI requires skill but this is a moot point regardless.you already got grilled on this, bro, stop bringing it up
>>744545327>I'm pro-consumer though? What are you talking about?>"Disclosing it is retarded since most people are using it and eventually everyone will. And disclosing it does NOTHING but hurt your sales because there are some zealots that will boycott your game if you use it."Why are you hiding AI usage from customers? That's not very pro-consumer.Hmmm..... Really activates the almonds...
>People who don't know anything about AI complaining about AIEvery. Fucking. Time.
>>744545409You wish.
>>744519471Oh so all the woke garbage after 2016 was fine. But this was the last straw? Yep, its a gcj tranny discord raid. Nothing to see here folks. Please disperse.
>>744545447>I put funny words on an anime girl dress up website>I am now an AI expert
>>744545443AI doesn't harm consumers at all. You're basically asking why developers don't disclose which tools they use to export image files, suggesting Gimp or Photoshop is good while paint.net or Krita is bad. Just arbitrary useless information for consumers.
>>744545327>AI requires skill but this is a moot point regardless.I know it must be very difficult for someone as neuron defficient as you to type in a prompt, get the AI to alter the prompt, then wait for each prompt to run on whatever image/video/3d/text model you are trying to use. Or oh, I'm sorry. Did you have a local workflow? Must've been really hard to install comfy! And civit is just SOOOO hard to use! And pip install, and huggingface, omg it's so hard!!!Sorry, this "skill" is worthless, and your slop is worthless. No one likes your garbage.>>744545451You sure showed him with your 1girl prompt!
>>744545532>undermining and flooding a market with easily accessible garbage to outcompete the normal workforceStick to pretending to be smart with your picture maker and leave economics to the real men
>>744545058The problem is that you're diplomatically trying to paint it as a both sides issue. Look at it this way. There's someone against AI individually, what do the true AI believers lose there?Now there's someone pro AI individually, what does the anti crowd lose?There's your problem. That's why the conversation is a mess.
>>744545591>t. retard repeating half-knowledge he overhead about shit he doesn't actually know anything about
he says that but then continues to consume anyway and communicate the experience of consuming to others
>>744545591>Or oh, I'm sorry. Did you have a local workflow? Must've been really hard to install comfy! And civit is just SOOOO hard to use! And pip install, and huggingface, omg it's so hard!!!no he just pays for n*i
>>744545591You're just outing yourself as a skilless AI user suggesting the prompt is all that matters. Do you make 5 figures a month off of your AI? Why not?>>744545621Give me examples of this outside of the already undermined and flooded worthless indie market. Explain in detail how we consumers are worse off because of a couple AI generated textures in video games.
An AI sandbox game where the AI is literally the villain could be interesting. Like it's intentionally messing with the player, but there is some sort of way of combating it the AI can't touch and with skill and smarts you can overcome its fuckery and destroy it.Kind of like B3313 but it's actually a rouge AI and more malicious.
>>744519471Modern Western developers are DEI hire dykles, troons and limp wristed faggots who outsource the coding to incompetent Indians.If the choice is between that and AI, then I choose AI.If the alternative of white men and East Asians is available then I'll take that.
>>744545532>AI doesn't harm consumers at all.So if it doesn't harm them, why not disclose it's usage?If AI is actively NOT harming consumers in the slightest, why do consumers dislike AI?Again, just a completely anti-consumer stance.>Just arbitrary useless information for consumers.And yet, you could still ask them and they'd tell you. Curious! >>744545706>couldn't come up with a single valid reason as to why AI is actually requires skill, instead just criesOOF
>>744545725>I tricked local towns into contracts to make shitty ChatGPT posters for their town events>also for boomer businesses before they could figure out for themselves
>>744545725There it is, the literal who twitter screencap, along with random schizo babble implying you're poor. Very good, very good indeed
>>744545759>So if it doesn't harm them, why not disclose it's usage?I see you have a double digit IQ as I already explained this.>If AI is actively NOT harming consumers in the slightest, why do consumers dislike AI?Mental illness.
>>744545759I insulted you because the possibility of using AI alongside drawing in the form of img2img literally did not even cross your mind even under hypothetical conditions, you reddit-meme spewing faggot.
>>744545843its already on the bingo card
>>744545796>>744545843He's a software legendhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_C._Martin
>>744545621>normal workforcethe "normal workforce" is the reason gaming sucks nowadays
>>744519471Why don't you stop eating food that wasn't picked from the fields by hand, too?People with anti-AI stance are going to look really silly 10 years from now.
>>744545745Can you get a new talking point? This one isn't convincing.>>744545849>ugh people CAN'T know something was made with AI because... consumers are mentally ill if they care! I'm pro consumer btw!>>744545871>haha! I remembered img2img is a thing and your post failed to mention it! I got you now! womp womp
>>744545936This is just embarrassing. This troon is working hard to prove he's a massive retard.
>>744545924and you think the regurgitared backfeed of all the shit that IS shit thrown into a stew and shit back out is going to be better?
>>744545925That's not an argument, and nobody has to buy AIslop or use AI. Nobody is going to miss out by simply avoiding it. Companies might lose customers because of AI but they certainly won't gain them. Getting all salty about that won't change things.
>>744545936>no retort, just an insultI accept your concession
>>744545979Holy shit, is that...Dancing AI anime girl and a... OMG... IS THAT..A FUCKING CONTROLNET?!?! for the billionth time!? I fucking kneel man! This shit looks so good! I'd pay you for it bro! It's SO good!
>>744545991No but I do not feel any empathy when the so-called "normal workforce" is getting fucked
>>744546076You are a sperg
>>744546081I love a good scorched earth senario but there's too many fucking troons on the same side, its a real head scratcher
>>744546017You will have to use it to get a job and compete in most cases.
>>744546019where's the insult? Learn the definition of words.
>>744546076take a deep breath and calm down sis
>>744546174>nepotism 2: automatically generated boogaloo
>>744546174No you don't. If you use it for your job you're a sucker, because the AI will just learn from your workflow and you'll be replaced.
>>744519471>unless the price they charge for the game is reflective of the labor that was invested inFuck off commie
>>744546118>>744546236womp womp
>>744546261The hypothetical person was already in-line for replacement, either by offshore work or google gemini
>>744546261>>744546241looks like it's schizo hours
>>744546368>the tallest and most handsome Pro-AI poster
>>744546368gotta admit that this was a kino moment
>>744546261Where is this magic AI that replaces the entire process? Don't pull shit out of your ass when you're talking about the real world.
>>744528079Using AI for concept art seems less creative than scribbling something and letting AI make the finished asset.
>>744546323If you train the AI to replace you, you're in line to be replaced, simple as.
>>744546317diddy ahh unc
>>744546416Who says your boss hasn't already been taking your work and feeding an AI for it?
>>744546396The executive will just tell the AI what to do, humans will never see or use the code. There will be no need for a prompter and "engineer" to review code or schematics or circuit layouts. That knowledge is being captured now.
>>744543904There are a bunch of AI gen porn patreons that make decent to large amounts of money.
>Random faggot OP makes a shit thread worth nothing>nearly 500 repliesWhat is WRONG with you faggots? Can't you fucking idiots take it to fucking /g/? You know the board that's literally ABOUT technology?
>>744546502Yeah seems like you think AI is magic. If it was that magical, we would have a very different outcome. It's almost like computer hysteria from the 70s.
>>744546660>Yeah seems like you think AI is magic.It's designed to seem like magic, that's how it's marketed too. But there are pesky issues they need to fix, they can only do that by watching the people who are to be replaced, do their jobs. Which is what AI is now doing.
>>744519471NIHAO CHANG
>>744546708Well you sure as fuck fell for the marketing, jesus christ. It's a tool, and a somewhat limited tool at that.
>>744546538The train out of town for that is gone, the remainer is just OF style whores with a few repeat users because you know how (or care ) to make tuba vore porn
This is such a simple ragebait idea. Why couldn't I think of making this thread before
>>744546660But it basically is magic. AI things will eventually get on the same trajectory as AI art did. Where most people can't even tell it was AI generated and prefer it over human work.
>>744546708This is what the idiots don't get. >>744546802https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/boards-policy-regulation/meta-start-capturing-employee-mouse-movements-keystrokes-ai-training-data-2026-04-21/
I'm ok with AI but not the way Shift Up is using it
>>744546891Literally all you need to do is make a pro ai bait thread or anti ai baitpost and everyone will reply The best part is you don't even have to have any actual stance. Just spam ai threads because/v/ is literally incapable of self control
>>744546951Then you're not okay with AI... they're using what they can use.
>>744546918The lighting is an instant detection tho
>>744546951Shift up used thier own in house assets for ai. Are you suggesting they stole from themselves?
as the thread closes out, let's give a hand to our AI defender, and give him a little recognition (as for some reason this wasnt a thread to endlessly spam links, this one is just to shoo janny away)https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/143687889we'll get above 100 followers, soon, don't have to thank me, pal. The NAI cost will soon repay itself.
>>744546918It's new but it's still not magic. You're going to think yourself a moron in 20 years when you're more familiar with the limitations.
>>744547047>>744547165
>>744547203>retards getting fooledYeah happens with every new tech. Doesn't change that ai is extremely limited in what it can do
>>744546918>people prefer AI artFucking kekaroo
>>744532237>and you're going to accept itNo, I'm not. Like OP I'll just not play games made except those prior to 2023, in perpetuity. Fuck you.
You all are looking at it wrong AI stealing shit and making soulless slop isn't even the main problem the main problem is that corporations will use the shit out AI, fire their entire development team and outsource it to a professional proompt master pajeet that earns 10 dollars per day and they will STILL sell you shit at 80 dollars because that's the new price.It's like self checkout just means for companies to save money by firing all cashiers and passing off the work to (you) and making you liable for more things because if you forget to pay for something you're technically a criminal and they will send you letters demanding you pay for stuff you didn't even buy.It's all bullshit corner cutting everywhere yet the savings aren't passed off to you
>>744547120how can you tell how many followers people have on pixiv?
>>744547328This is what pro-ai retards don't grasp. AI is just a race to the bottom.
>>744547440race to the top*
>>744547328Hardly anyone uses self checkouts anymore HOWEVER it was a waste of money and resources that was solved by hiring more fucking people and proper organization so you don't have 50 line people
>>744547328>You all are looking at it wrong AI stealing shit and making soulless slop isn't even the main problem the main problem is that corporations will use the shit out AI, fire their entire development team and outsource it to a professional proompt master pajeet that earns 10 dollars per day and they will STILL sell you shit at 80 dollars because that's the new price.But then every fired person could start their own company using AI(or not) and do a better job? How is this a bad thing?
>>744547440>>744547502Actually it's a race to the middle.
>>744547502Here's your (You), don't spend it all in one place
>>744547120mental illness or shabby attempt at shilling his own pixivcall it
>>744547502Race to the shit*
>>744547553Self checkouts are still everywhere, and the places they’re going away it’s because of theft not because customers hate it
>>744547636both
>>744547120Amazing art.
>>744547557>But then every fired person could start their own company using AI(or not) and do a better job?AI is being gatekept from the common people by protectionist policies preventing foreign agents from importing their innovations and more recently the bullshit national security stunt drumpf pulled that cut off access to claude 5 everywhere in the world because it could build nukes or whatever the fuck.Powerful AI will be reserved for giant corporations either by protectionist policies or retarded pricing schemes.
>>744547328>fire their entire development team and outsource it to a professional proompt master pajeet that earns 10 dollars per day and they will STILL sell you shit at 80SAAAAR I PROMPT BOOB AND VAGIINA YOU PAY 80
>>744547706>AI is being gatekept from the common peopleNo it isn't you schizo.
>>744547767Not for a lack of trying on their part
>>744547706>AI is being gatekept from the common peopleYou're retarded. If it was actually gatekept we wouldn't even fucking access to ai unless you were an actual employee or a fucking government agent
Sure is a lot of tranny jeetoids seething about Aryan Intelligence in here. No more hair dye for you, fatty. Gaming is now based again.
>>744547853SARRR YES I AM WHITE
>>744547120Anon, no amount of seething will stop the robots from taking over if they keep improving.
>>744547706>AI is being gatekept from the common people by protectionist policies Nigga it's literally just linear algebra and it's definitely not gatekept
>>744519471>it took AI for him to stop giving megacorpos moneyThe funny part is this makes AI a good thing
>>744547969Based ai finally forcing people to stop buying slop just because...lel human made slop
>>744547898Generating magic slopbots requires access to “the entire internet” worth of training data. The magic trick is these companies scraped all this data without permission to build proprietary training sets, then major internet companies got wind and locked up their API access to try and get profit from it, so now building a new training dataset requires billions of dollars in API licenses that the original devs never had to pay because they stole the data and then just lied about it.
>>744547853>Aryan IntelligenceI like this one.
>>744548032t.
>>744548003>lel human made slopExcuse me for having a totally normal preference for the products of my own species.
>>744548076>not blackUhh that's racist chud
>>744548032but you see, I'm 3 IQ and i can use grok and chatgpt so actually ai hasn't been gatekept!1
>>744548114Your species produces literally monkey shit. Cope.
So how do we shut down Shift Up
>>744548032Google has an advantage because they have access to so much data. It's not stopping fucking Iran dmfrom having a very successful AI program. It's just linear algebra and we can read a lot of the research papers. Only thing gatekeeping you is how lazy and mathematically illiterate you are.
>>744548174>humans produce only monkey shit>ai is trained on this monkey shit>monkey shit made from monkey shitwhoa...
>>744548239Yes now you understand it's all monkey shit.
>>744548076It’s not about “protecting artists”, if I had my way IP would be abolished. The issue is the playing field isn’t and can never be LEVEL because even if you or I had access to the compute needed to do the scraping, we’ll never be able to. OpenAI and their ilk fed every single post ever made on Reddit and Twitter into their LLM training datasets. Reddit and Twitter both locked out API access after ChatGPT hit it big (actually it may have been after GPT3.5, I’m hazy on the timeline). You now literally CANNOT scrape all of Reddit and Twitter to build your own training dataset. They got to do it, then the rules changed, now you don’t get to do it. They have enclosed the commons of data. It’s theirs now and you can’t have it, you can only buy their subscription to it.
>>744548276i prefer my money shit non-redigested, thank you very much
>>744548342>still eating shitAlright then try not to die of literally eating shit broksi
>>744548293you have a fundamental misunderstanding about AI and that data is already scraped and you can just download it
>>744548293Your post is too wordy and complex for these street-shitter types, he's just gonna respond with "cope luddite" or a reaction image.
>>744548409
>>744548398ChatGPT’s training data is not available to the public. There are some public and open-source training datasets derived from scraped internet text but they are not the same datasets. This is for a number of reasons, not the least of which is that scraping-based training datasets are open to scrutiny and therefore copyright claims because anyone can review what’s in them. This makes them inherently more limited than closed “prove we took it from you, idiot” datasets.Suno, for instance, scraped spotify streams to train their models. They DENY they did this but the AI shows telltale signs of mp3 recompression because all of its training data was pulled from lossy streams not raw master audio. You could not make a FOSS version of this, because if you made “every song on spotify” available as a freely downloadable academic resource you would be nuked from orbit by the RIAA. Suno got to use that data before Spotify put measures in place to prevent AI scrapers from not paying it; you are no longer permitted to compete with the big dogs. It’s cheating for you, it’s against the rules, but they did it before anyone was looking so now they get the billion dollar IPO advantage.
>>744548816I repeat>you have a fundamental misunderstanding about AI and that data is already scraped and you can just download it
>>744548889Bet, where would one go to download the training data for ChatGPT? Can you give me a link?
>>744548889>pro-AI poster far less knowledgable as always
>>744548816How do literal nobodies keep releasing AI models?
>>744548970I repeat again>you have a fundamental misunderstanding about AI datasets are also different than data>>744549073It's a mystery since apparently it's impossible to find data!
>>744549073Distillation. You can train an AI model ON an AI model and get comparable performance, it’s a type of information compression. This was the big Chinese breakthrough a while back, you can train a smaller model ON a bigger model’s output and get comparable performance with a much smaller footprint, even if achieving it by unleashing the smaller model directly on the training data would be less effective. So ChatGPT is available to you, you can train your model on ChatGPT rather than on what ChatGPT was trained on, and still get a ChatGPT-esque output. If all you want is to replicate current functionality it can work fine, but you’ll never be able to expand the architecture to improve performance. You can’t make “a billion MORE parameters” because you’re hard-limited by the performance of existing cooked models.
>>744549310You might not realize this, but you're missing 90% of the picture when you keep talking about LLMs.
>>744549310What about Mercury ai? There's a reason I'm asking specifically and it's very technical, too.
>>744549529Machine learning as a class of algorithms is very cool and I have huge respect for anyone who is actually developing and training neural networks from scratch for specific tasks. When we talk about modern slop, whether it’s “the chatbot is an emergent expert” or “the AI writes code for me” or anything else, we’re talking about LLMs. Even diffusion shit (which is HARDLY 90% of modern slop production) relies on LLMs to function in most cases because it uses language modeling to associate user inputs with specific outputs.
>>744546397But the AI wasn't used for concept art in that case.The concept art already existed.
>>744543563Link the exact pixiv then.Help yourself out. Not me, you.
>>744549659I’m not able to find any information about Inception Labs’ training datasets. So I don’t know. Probably a big open source repo like Common Crawl would be my guess?
>>744550164Right. Why I went with that is training LLMs is not a data volume problem.
>>744550535No it’s a data curation problem, which is why the fact that access to specific crucial sets of data is so relevant. If one LLM company has ready access to terabytes of training data scraped from relevant sources that its competitors cannot easily access, that gives them an inherent advantage past the pretraining stage that nobody else will have.Mercury is different, the thing it does is change the generation algorithm, that’s interesting but all other things being equal, someone with access to better training data will still make a better model because they can use the same diffusion approach (assuming diffusion language is actually up to their hype, I don’t know or care enough to find out if it is) but with better training data and get a better result.
>>744519471based
