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"Team Fortress 3? Nah, have Deadlock instead."

-Valve
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>>744520894
Look at cs2 and ask yourself if you really would want that treatment for tf2
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Why do they keep following video game trends?
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Kill all pedos
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A playerbase as committed to a game as TF2fags would never accept a new game anyway, they would take issue with something, anything. Better to just do a different thing and leave them to enjoy their moldy sandwich.
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>>744520991
What's wrong with CS2?
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>>744520894
Deadlock is also made by fagget troon devs, they are fighting valve tooth and foreskin to make all characters faggets.
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>>744520894
uh ohhh tftroon melty
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more like deadcock
PAINUS
WHUUUUUUUUUUAAAAAAAAAAHHHH
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>>744521018
Joe Biden former president of the united states look out!
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>>744520894
Well yea. Make a new game rather than try and retrofit an old game to be like the new ones, you are utterly deluded if you think TF3 would be comparable to TF2 if it was made today, but if its too close to TF2 then what was the point of a sequel at all.

The game is fine, make something new instead of warping something that is fine for the sake of being new. Make new IPs and leave those older characters and settings alone. For the love of god just make new shit for fuck sake.
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>>744521245
You say that but Long Beach Pete still runs free,

God Bless
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/v/ acting like they don't want TF3 is pretty funny.
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>>744520894
That doesn't look anything like olivia...
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>>744521369
Yeah I don't get this attitude 'please replace my favourite game, please give me a reason to throw it in the bin and never touch it again'
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>>744520894
Other than those two suits fighting over Mann Co when Saxton made them both run the company, what would even be the premise of TF3? All Australium is gone, the Mann brothers are dead, Elizabeth is dead, the mercs have all retired, Pauling is either retired or working somewhere more mundane and Saxton doesn't seem to have any interest in running Mann Co anymore.
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>>744521442
I don't give a shit about TF2 because it's a furry game played exclusively by trannies, russians and bronies
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>>744521442
Made by a present day Valve filled with Campo Santo troons? Yeah, I don't fucking want a TF3. TF2 is fine.
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You only made this thread because you want to fuck that child
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>>744521018
That's very transphobic thing to say
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>>744520894
I don't think most people want TF3, they just want Valve to fix TF2. New content would be nice, but really, just fixing the game is the most important step. They got rid of the bots, but that was only because an outside contractor went to them and asked if he could do it for them.
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>>744521018
Cool it with the antisemitism
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>>744520991
it will happen and tf2 fags will ack themselves because actually refusing to bootlick Valve for one second is a big no no
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>>744521028
>subtick is a disaster
>runs like shit
>raped with bots and cheaters
>half the content from the OG game still missing
I mean, TF2 losing half the content would be a mercy, but still.
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team fortress 2 with 2026 game design and mechanics would absolutely dominate the market
no idea why valve doesnt go for it, theyre probably just too lazy
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TF2fags are the most entitled niggers on this board.
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deadlock utterly and brutally mogs tf2 (which only received updates beyond its launch because of lootboxes btw)
its hilarious to see how fucking mad you furfags and turdworlders get with deadlock, stay mad retards
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>>744520991
all i know is, i looked at my inventory the other day and have like 100 bucks of old items somehow. i don't even have anything good they were all like ~$1 skins before. is it just cuz they are old and CS collectors are crazy?
wonder if i should sell or keep holdin'. i will never play this shit.
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>>744522324
>entitled
Nigga TF2 are literally the least entitled people on the board. No other fanbase would defend their game going down for two weeks because Valve added another 20 or so shitty maps to the already broken matchmaker.
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>>744522324
pipedown newfag
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Valve doesn't do the number 3.
You already know that
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>>744520894
I have never seen this character outside of the oppai loli porn drawn on /v/
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>>744522524
Yeah, they've always been a seiso company. You should be grateful
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>>744521442
I just wish Valve made a normal fucking single player game for once in their life instead of just endless lootbox generators.
The fact that the last proper game they released was Portal 2 in fucking 2011 is a fucking travesty. Since then we have gotten a single fucking VR game.

I haven't enjoyed a new Valve game in 15 fucking years.
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>>744522556
Read the official comics.
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>>744521442
I want TF3 from 2007-2012 Valve
I don't want TF3 from today's Valve
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dont give a shit about tf, much rather get portal 3
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>>744522754
this.
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>>744522324
its actually the opposite.
TF2 has been a rotting corpse for over 10 years and people still stick to it and support it.
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>>744522754
today's valve is a disgrace. see: deadcock character designs and writing
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>>744521245
Donald Trump current president of the united states look out!
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>>744521582
They'll just have to retvrn to the original premise of pointless battles for gravel in the Arizona deserts and not get bogged down with Superman references and trying to be Venture Bros.
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>>744521086
/thread
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>>744522483
>>744522516
>>744522902
>the game is good and we are not obnoxious faggots because... WE'VE BEEN PLAYING THE SAME GAME FOR YEARS AND SUBSIST ON SCRAPS WHILE WORSHIPPING VALVE AND PRETENDING THE GAME IS FINE
lmao actual mental illness
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>>744522435
the main thing with those skins is that they do not drop anymore. so discontinued collections like Assault have glock fade worth hundreds and the lower rarities are in turn pricey because you can trade up. same goes with discontinued cases such as past operations with operation bravo being an example. The case itself is worth 55$ now.

also if you dont have your inventory privated or used to do trading on sites like backpack tf, you occasionally get pajeets/chinks trying to buy your cases
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>>744523098
tdr
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>>744523265
it's a good game that Valve cannot replicate. L4D2 is an example too, people still play that. There's nothing like it today
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>reddit fortress
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>>744522324
dial 8
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>>744523462
I wouldn't call a froondly hoovy pony ERP simulator a game
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>>744520894
Please just give us a heavy update and then tell us your never going to do another content update ever again and I'll be happy valve, just one more wild ride please...
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>>744520894
Deadlocke is a fun game, I like the characters and the gameplay. Youre all fags complaining about shit just cause youre miserable niggers. Deadlocks only problem is that games last an hour instead of 25-35 minutes as they should
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>>744523847
go play tranny simulator
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>>744523880
sorry you cannot convince me to play nu-valve games
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>>744524041
so...TF2?
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>>744522324
Not even close. You look like the kinda Guy who says everyone is literally worse than Hitler, or says whatever thing/person is currently annoying you is "the worst ever".

Pic unrelated.
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Ivy sex Ivy Ivy sex goon Ivy
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>>744521442
>/v/ acting like they don't want TF-
ragebait reply for free (you)s yet:
>would have to port all of the cosmetics without fucking anything up in the process
>would have to get the gameplay down to a T or would piss off the mega autists that've dumped 10s of thousands of hours into the game
>would have to not fuck the fact that the game can be ran on a good deal of toasters
>would have to carry all of the other sub parts and modes made
>this isn't even counting the fact that the game is just spaghetti code
you think the people who participate in these threads actually fucking play the game, have a general fucking clue as to what the state is when the OPs are just shitty participant threads for complete fucking mongoloids who speak like mouth breathing simpletons with cognitive decline.

TF2 doesn't need anything, it just needs a causal rollback to quickplay and that's it, done, the game is fixed and can die a slow death under its own weight as the cream(autists) settles at the top once all the subhuman tourists finally piss off; I wouldn't want NU-valve to touch TF2 when they clearly can't get anything right with their games nowadays with their contractors are people who don't play the game.
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holy LOL
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>>744522194
>>runs like shit
Why are you poor?
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>>744520894
when will be getting more Olivia mann in tf2?
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>>744522095
TF2fags are the funniest case of cognitive dissonance because they react aggressively to any kind of criticism of the game jumping through mental hoops to defend all sorts of bullshit until you bring up MYM upon which they suddenly stop feeling the need to defend everything valve does.
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>>744522095
>>744528354
You two hosted bots and got hit with that thread of account termination, didn't ya
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>>744521018
if i had to line up with every pedo on the planet to get them killed along with the lolicons, i'd do it in a heartbeat, that being said we don't live in a perfect world or the rich pedo's would be getting dabbed on constantly
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>>744522194
Worse of all
>removed short matches
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>>744529137
but /v/ told me TF2 never had bots and it's all Blizzard anti-Valve propaganda
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>>744529416
>sample
pain
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>>744529710
steam stats says it has 50k active players but it feels like only about 5k at max actually play it at a given time. I dont know why dont they pull the plug already. Game is dead.
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>>744522194
>>subtick is a disaster
Better than 64 tick
>>runs like shit
Only if your system is 5+ years old
>>raped with bots and cheaters
Was already happening on CSGO
>>half the content from the OG game still missing
True, but that part of the content wasn't played by almost anyone compared to the main competitive mode and faceit.

The only part of CS2 that's really worse than CSGO aside from the missing casual gamemodes are all the shennanigans with the weird ebemy body animations that they have been fixing slowly.
You can be a boomer a make the case that Source was better because of the focus on custom servers, but CS2 and CSGO are pretty much the same game with the same issues.
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>>744529906
>game is dead because i don't play casual matchmaking
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>>744530246
you mean the mode filled with bots?
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>>744529416
so the tldr of this character is basically an eldritch abomination that just chooses to disguise itself as a little girl right?
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>>744530417
The mode that hasn't been filled with bots in ages, yeah. It's been the better part of a year since Valve basically decapitated every botter and took down methods of mass-generating Steam accounts. There's more garden variety aimbotters than bots now.
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>>744530519
No Olivia is a normal girl Gray basically had as a bargaining chip against Saxton Hale (takes over the company, Saxton refuses to hit a child)
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>>744530593
whoa, cool. that means that 50k cheaters "play" instead of bots
I will buy a dozen keys to celebrate (keys are NOT lootboxes)
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>>744530695
Pretty eager to write the game off even when you're operating on ancient information. Keep going down that list of bullet-points lad.
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>>744530783
bro, you just told me the game is filled with aimbots
are you a bot?
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>>744530930
No, I told you the game has more cheaters than it does bots these days. Your diseased head is the only one between the two of us that took that to mean "the game is filled with aimbots because all the bots were replaced by aimbots."
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>>744530987
>defends TF2 and Valve
>calls others' heads diseased
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>>744520894
>>744523856
>>744528286
>>744529416
scout marries this (forever)
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>>744530519
My headcanon is they were going to make her the administrator with a huge amount of australium to be young in a plot to take over Mann Co but I was wrong
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>>744521442
i don't think that modern landscape allows for pre Mannconomy Team Fortress to exist
along with custom sprays, maps and gamemodes
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>>744532012
Wolpaw loudly protesting "OH MY FUCKING GOD WHO CARES" at giving the Administrator a deep backstory tickles me
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>>744522324
Now say that without having Valve's metaphorical dick in your mouth
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Deadlock is basically Dota 3. It has nothing in common with tf2 except for having a cartoony artstyle.
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>>744520894
That was the right decision.
Discard the Unc legacy.
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>>744522556
It only appears on the comics, alongside Saxton Hale, his girlfriend, the 3rd Mann brother who killed the other 2, and some others that dont matter much
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>>744529137
Why is it that hard to just accept that f2fags are massively full of shit? Even you had to make up some weird angle of insult instead of just thinking "well yeah, that is really dumb of them".
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>>744532079
My favorite part of the Administrator's backstory is even if you don't like that she had one, it never amounted to anything anyways.
She was just a spiteful old bitch who fucked everybody over for the love of it. There was no point, she didn't learn anything, and on her dying breath she didn't regret a damn thing.
Easily one of the best characters in TF2, desu.
Also she was hot as fuck in her youth.
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>>744532225
>valve turned uglycute ivy into cuteugly ivy
look how they massacred my girl
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>>744533306
Making the Admin's backstory utterly inconsequential was the snazziest bit of writing they could have possibly done, I adore that they tied back into how completely pointless the entire war and everything surrounding it was
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>>744533279
"TF2fags" automatically removes you from any kind of level-headed discussion on the matter, hope this helps.
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>>744520894
i was looking at a mod for halo the other night and seeing all the goofy weapons began to wonder why nobody ever made a tf2 campaign mod
being single player you wouldn't even need to worry too much about the balancing and just let the player pick up any class' primary/secondary/melee weapons
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>>744532225
yaddle looking motherfucker
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>>744533753
>and just let the player pick up any class' primary/secondary/melee weapons
Removing the class design, TF2's biggest strength, would be why
Closest we'll get to the idea is Open Fortress (a deathmatch or Quake style game) or that Lambda Fortress game where you play as TF2 classes in Half-Life 2's campaign
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>>744520894
""""Valve"""" isn't capable of making TF3. They aren't even capable of furthering TF2.
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so where do i find more olivia pics? is this one >>744529416 just AI?
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>>744533694
Yes that's all you know how to you, evade what's said to you and dishonestly pretend referring to everyone as fags isn't the fucking default of this website. Do you wish to continue proving my point?
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>>744534173
What point? Bump to make you mad
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>>744533694
this. TF2rannies is a more apt descriptor
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>>744535248
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If you ever feel bad about your lot in life, remember you could be members of the discord here who are genuinely mad there aren't enough children playing tf2 to molest and are mad at Valve because they're uninteresting losers with nothing to offer on a "videosharing" platform that has had almost entirely fake metrics since like 2016 and that Valve isn't paying them, personally, to stop crying that people are playing TF2 despite a significant portion of their identity is derived from said game.
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>>744527625
Ivan, nobody outside of your village is impressed you can run CS2
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>>744535983
I think the worst is that tf2 threads are full of a sub set of emporium niggers, /vg/ tf2 general normalfags and other types that I don't consider to be "human"; I pit these threads in the incredibly low quality tier even setting aside the individuals having nothing truly interesting to provide here, or whatever the discord grooming faggotry is.
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>>744536630
>emporium niggers
Oh I'm sorry, are the fags that actually make shit for the game hecking badful? Did they steal money from poor poor zesty jesus who deserves it for crying for hours about how nobody wants to play on his server and Valve won't update the game so he never loses?
Anyway how did you feel about several maps being added for the summer made before that community even existed?
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>get official mod tools and good mods as a result
>get a conclusion to the story that's about as saccharine and "your comfort characters lived happily ever after" as you can get right down to ending with 'and you- thank you!' more or less
>NO I NEED MORE I NEED A SEQUEL IN THE SAME EXACT SETTING I NEED UPDATES VALVE CAN'T MAKE OTHER GAMES

don't geddit
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>>744536941
Now look at the emporium nigger having a pissy fit because the value of which their "community" provides is as worthwhile as its novelty whenever the 3 scheduled updates come out for the tourists to play with.

A plight against the game since valve feeds their little laborious empories peanuts to continue the endless feedback loop of bankrolling them via the whales.
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GREAT IDEA I JUST HAD
WHY DONT THEY DO A DEADLOCK v TEAM FORTRESS CROSSOVER*

*if you use my idea you need to pay me
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>>744522194
>>runs like shit
Kek self reporting yourself as a third world brownoid
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>>744537341
nta but even deadlock, a brand new game not created in the 90s runs better than cs2
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>>744533306
>slighted woman
>turned bitter and misanthropic as a result
>does a lot of awful things over time
>this brings her joy out of sheer spite for everyone
>naturally escalates into seeing people die, because seeing people die means they're worse off than you (they're dead)
>how she was slighted stopped mattering
>doesn't even remember the details anymore
>all she cares about is being misanthropic and seeing people die
>eventually seeing people die stopped being interesting
>being filthy rich and powerful stopped being interesting
>hangs herself with a completely straight face
>this fails because it turns out immortality is real
>misanthropic, likes seeing people die, now also likes seeing them come back to die again
>also likes torturing people with this phenomenon
>tortures not just the people who die but the people who care (even if it's for similarly evil reasons, like wealth)
>creates a secret empire of people dying and coming back in gruesome, comical ways
>final moments are spent realizing her existence was spiteful and empty of meaning, completely squandered out of bitterness
>asked if she feels any remorse whatsoever
>"lmao"
>dies bitter and spiteful
Most authentic female character ever written and it was done in 2025. How the fuck
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>>744534889
The point that you'll evade what was originally said, and the answer is evidently yes.
>>744535525
>even pretends to be a women via a gif
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>>744523856
>>744528286
Holy sex
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>>744537308
>AIIIIIEEEE You don't know I'm a total faggot you're in the emporium you're stealing millions of dollars from me by actually making shit for the game instead of crying about people who play it for the thousandth time
Was this supposed to be a win for you?
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>>744537329
jokes on you they already own both IPs so they dont even need the brass balls of chrischan making sonichu a commercial venture
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>>744520894
>NOOOOOOOOOOO EVERY GAME MUST BE A SEQUEL OR PART OF A FRANCHISE, NEW GAMES SHOULDN'T EXIST THINK OF THE FANARINOS AND MEINSTREAM PUBLIC
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>>744538185
I mean in this case the only reason they're asking for a Team Fortress 3 is that they unironically think it's the gateway to getting a new advertising deal from Valve, fresh life support for their boring youtube channels, or getting Valve to ruin the """"""""""balance"""""""""" of the game even further.
They don't really even care about any actual technical reasons or actual material benefits to designing a new Class based shooter or porting TF2 to Source 2. Because they're leeches that make literally nothing for the game already
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>>744537842
>millions
chump change for a bunch of chumps, free labour for valve who do nothing and a community that will eat itself from the inside out over the years as the game bleeds itself out; then again if your "community" does get the boot from a hypothetical scenario where valve stops adding shit tier content three times a year, boy would I LOVE to watch the fireworks go off and watch a bunch of suckers who've gotten too comfortable making trash for a game that's been culturally dead for a long time.
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>>744538481
>chump change for a bunch of chumps
That you're still crying that I am receiving (I'm not, but the literal only way you don't look like a faggot is if I'm part of faggot group B which is definitely totally worse than faggot group A amirite /tf2g/????)
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>>744520894
Objective-based hero shooter games are a dime a dozen, I don't think Valve wants to bother trying to compete in such an oversaturated market. Also TF2 still rakes in money somehow, they have no reason to ever make a sequel.
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>>744538185
>>744538464
People ask for TF3 because it's the easiest way of saying "we've been with tf2 for so fucking long that we've gotten sick of the problems with it, we want something that fixes those problems".

Really it doesn't have to be a team fortress game or even something by valve, or at least anyone with the kind of IP or company loyalty is a fucking idiot, but if you don't just say "TF3" people won't grasp that direction of game design you want. It's too easy for people to just think "oh, hero shooter!".
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>>744538620
Oh the people on tf2g are, you being an emporium nigger how ever little or for any matter or sense of commending them for making shitty content that exists for its novelty and only its novelty.

TF2Emporium death serves to be a greater benefit to tf2 and a fuck you to valve, less dogshit, less bloat, less money for the company that does nothing and you wouldn't understand that ideal because the thought of the emporium being nothing more than a free labour for 0 cost doesn't register with you.

go on and reply to me trying to pussy foot the matter of them "providing oh such good content for the dead game full of autistic people", you'll do it because this group is legitimate cancer for the continuation of stagnation of gameplay it's had for 10 fucking years now.
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>>744538908
>They want a much more reasonable thing
No, they don't. The topic literally never comes up, and they can't even elaborate on basic shit like what the class roster would be like.
This is because they don't even like TF2 to begin with
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>>744538789
you're reading too much into it
gabe just hates the number 3
episode 3
hl3
portal 3
tf3
l4d3
just watch i bet we get deadlock 2 then the series just get left on hiatus forever
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>>744538983
>I'm here in a thread crying about the game it's about people who play it and you for getting millions of dollars from Valve, but you're the loser look at my cool reaction images you're so mad I'm not a gay loser I fucking hate tf2 and the people who play it because they rejected me waaaaah
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>>744539273
who are you quoting?
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>>744539327
>you can't make fun of me by paraphrasing my post that's using quotes wrong >:(
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>>744539435
hello?
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>almost 20 years and I just keep going back to TF2 when everything else gets old
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>>744539075
> they can't even elaborate on basic shit like what the class roster would be like
It's a pretty safe bet plenty would want something without snipers, personally I think it would be good to have a game that doesn't fall for the healer role meme.
>This is because they don't even like TF2 to begin with
No shit, I literally just pointed out that they've gotten sick of the game. That doesn't mean that tf2 wasn't going in the direction they wanted since they clearly liked the game at one point, problem is the longer you spend with the game the more you see the problems with it.
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>>744540116
>they wanted since they clearly liked the game at one point
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>>744540206
No they obviously did, why else would they ever get into the game? You've stopped making any sense.
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>>744529906
Player trackers that take data from active game servers, both official and community ones report naturally fluctuating numbers in range of around 10 - 15k daily, and that range is expected to lower as time goes on. Very easy to run into same players while requeueing marches on casual etc.
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Do we really want sequels for a game series that's already over instead of more fresh, new and original ideas?
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>>744520894
Deadlock is pretty much TF2 if TF2 was a Moba so whatever
Play Viscous and you can carry your rocket jumping experience over almost 1 to 1 with puddle punch
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>>744542043
Yeah you know, you're right, there's no reason at all anyone especially these days, would attach themselves to something they don't actually like.
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>>744523098
FULL TDS on display
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Hugely obese olivia mann send post
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>>744523098
Any proof you want to point to or do you just squawk talking points like a good little hypnotized leftist slave?
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i like MvM because overwatch 2 completely gave up on having a pvm mode
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>>744529518
You won't do shit, and continue paying taxes to your rich pedo leaders like a good little slave. You're comfortably numb with your internet and entertainment and food provided to you by your pedo elite, so spare us the lame virtue signalling. It's pathetic.
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>>744520991
They already ruined TF2 when they put an official competitive mode in. Who the fuck cares about comp tf2? Cevo had open registration for professional league because there were so few teams back in like 2010 or 2011.
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>>744542289
Deadlock is tf2 if tf2 were fucking gay
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>>744543385
>if
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>>744537329
I would play a Valve fighting game so hard
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>>744543385
you know at least deadlock has at least one female fanservice character
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>>744542289
>Play Viscous and you can carry your rocket jumping experience over almost 1 to 1 with puddle punch
Fucking lol I remember when people kept insisting this, you almost never hear people pretend this these days after getting used to him, certainly not 1 to 1.
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>>744543983
I said ALMOST 1 to 1, the knockback of puddle punch IS different from the knockback of rockets but you can still surf and effectively chain punch jumps with him if you can learn the properties of the punches
Anyone who says this isn't possible is talking out of their ass or is a shitter
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>>744522483
retard
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>>744543876
Nigger didn't you notice the OP?
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>>744544306
Even just making it third person with that fire delay makes it feel different, along with the obvious difference in balancing because the thing is on charged cooldown and the fact that viscious otherwise playing differently to soldier means you're doing different things with the jumps.
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>>744543876
Tf2 has pyro
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>>744529416
Olivia mann my beloved...
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>>744521442
/v/ will want whatever those fags at valve make. If the steam controller doesn't have a built in headphone jack that's perfectly fine because Valve is omnipotent and infallible to the 3rd world south American and south east Asians who inhabited this husk of a board now.
Half life 3? Portal 3? Left for dead 3? Team Fortress 3? Fuck valve didn't even create a fucking tech demo for their steam "console".
I've never seen such a psyop where one of the makers of such beloved franchises literally said "nah fuck this and your video games we're making bank off 300 dollar Csgo skins"
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>>744545247
You know it's not trolling if you're actually mad right?
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>>744545247
Post completely disproven by
>later dota2 patches
>csgo2 not being popular here
>underlords
>shartifact
>people generally not wanting a team fortress 3
>people generally not wanting tf2 to change whatsoever
>deadlock dropping in popularity
>steam machine being laughed at
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>>744545051
It's massive
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>>744544707
You can trivially get multiple charges and reduced cooldowns. It's no different from having to reload your rocket launcher
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>>744533180
god I hate this
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>>744545051
You're right, it should be even fatter
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What the actual fuck is wrong with Valve? Why they buy yachts and shit up internet with shills instead of making video games?
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>>744545051
>>744545861
Going to have to hit you with this.
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>>744548319
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>>744548390
holy based
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>>744521018
based
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>>744548319
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>>744545475
No definitely different. Reloading a rocket takes just under a second. No amount of items brings punch cooldown to that amount. Do you really think deadlock would entertain a viscous moving around the map like a rocket jumper soldier can?
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>>744539723
I think it's time for my yearly return too but I dread to find out what shitty servers await me.
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>>744520894
TF2 has literal magic and shit now, I accept this.
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>>744521018
fuck you transphobe
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They didn't need to make her so hot.
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>>744539723
I had an easier time quitting drinking than TF2
It's the perfect online shooter. Every class feels so satisfying to play with.
We'll never get anything like it again. It's also why it hurts to see the state valve left it in.
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Waiter, waiter! More shitty reference cosmetics! More shitty maps that play like crap! Another 100 unusual effects that nobody cares for!
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Valve could just steal the good weapons from TF2C modpacks like NOWP and Knockout and delete 1/3 of the maps permanently and boom, the game has its lifetime extended for another 10 years.
It goes without saying that f2ps need to be able to fucking talk.
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>>744542482
>Any proof

No proof required for first post, but second post, despite being friends with an uber pedophile requires further proof.
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>>744543474
My brother showed me the original meme video, then a collection of gay bara team fortress images to "get the meme" then video again but with those team fortress gay bara images.
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>>744549079
Yeah it does just not consistently through a whole fight
You can get enough stacks to do a 2-4 punch rollout and have enough cooldown reduction to still have an easy escape, you can't punch jump so much that you're recreating trolldiers
At the same time you have all the movement options built into Deadlock to supplement your punch jumps in ways soldier can't, and you can freely mix them in a way other classes can't match
A good Viscous is easily the most mobile hero in the game, the one downside I'd concede to is that if you really want to movement max you'll have to give up other important items which will make you less good at doing your actual job clearing camps, and that you HAVE to max puddle punch asap for that 7 second cooldown meaning you'll be less tanky
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>>744521024
Not of TF3 removed sniper
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>>744529416
IT'S EVOLUTION BABY
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>>744520894
Why can't they just fucking fix steam instead of making these shit games? I swear it boots slower and slower with each update.
It's evident they cannot make games anymore so they should just focus on what they still have.
YOU HAVE A BILLION DOLLARS JUST FIX STEAM
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>>744542289
>Deadlock is pretty much TF2 if TF2 was a Moba
Except with none of that soul and also designed by a teen from deviantart.
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>>744543385
tf2 is nothing but dudes
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>>744521024
It's worth considering that a TF3 could end up having a relationship with TF2 similar to what TF2 had to TFC.

Which is that the diehard TF2fags would hate it because of some of the changes it made. But it doesn't matter because it's not trying to settle for that audience. Meanwhile the masses of people who played tf2 but saw the shortcomings and the people who are coming into the series fresh without previous bias are able to appreciate that the new game is an improvement.
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>>744547446
and the rest of her should be fatter too
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>>744539723
Its comfort food even in the worst of times, nothin wrong with that. Find me a game that matches it even close. Hell i will predict that when we all turn old and grey there will still be at least 10k players at minimum somehow
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hate that Valve is only working on 3rd person Dota
I dont even need TF3 to be actual TF, it could just be a new game thats spiritually that other alternatives just suck ass
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>>744552854
>people are starting to find the killbind button in Deadlock
>this will either get patched out or you get kicked for funny
This is a grim reality
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>>744545051
There are a lot of these, who is the artist?
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>>744542482
lmao retard
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>>744542289
>if TF2 was a Moba
holy barf
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>>744545051
I like this artstyle, I did my best
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>>744553861
based beyond believe
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>>744542482
>uhhh u libtard if you don't like billonare jew plant president that make everything worse
dumb fucking hick retard
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>>744552474
>>744553720
Not an argument
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>>744542289
>this game is just this other game if it were a completely different genre
Not only does this mean they're barely similar at all, they're actually even less similar than that.

>>744554470
Everyone else has been worse, so that's not as much of an own as you think it is.
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>>744520894
Teen Olivia is hotter.
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>>744521018
based
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>>744554549
ASSFAGOTS are cringe
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>>744523462
Damn L4D2 is still played?
Maybe I'll reinstall it.
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>>744545247
YEah, in 2008 maybe
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>>744555060
MvM is already halfway to a Moba, Deadlock feels like a continuation of that
Basically the same engine Source vs Source 2, same lighting, similar setting especially to the TF2 halloween stuff, similar writing, similar gunplay to MvM, and the melee is just TF2 melee if it was good
All you'd have to do to make Deadlock TF3 is remove the adds and items, and rebalance each attack's damage to account for this
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/v/ hates deadlock because you're all uncs who suck shit at everything you enjoy. stick to gachas and jerking off to cartoon girls or whatver
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>>744552170
>the one downside I'd concede to is that if you really want to movement max you'll have to give up other important items which will make you less good at doing your actual job clearing camps
This is probably one of the big reasons people did stopped hyping up viscious as "deadlock soldier"
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>>744555397
>MvM is already halfway to a Moba, Deadlock feels like a continuation of that
MvM is PvE and only played by faggots.
>similar setting especially to the TF2 halloween stuff
By that logic, every game that celebrates Halloween has a similar setting to Deadlock.
>similar writing
It's a Valve game, and even then, I'd just say "sort of."
>similar gunplay to MvM, and the melee is just TF2 melee if it was good
So not like TF2 at all.
>All you'd have to do to make Deadlock TF3 is remove the adds and items, and rebalance each attack's damage to account for this
And make the setting the other side of the country.
And massively reduce the magic.
And change the characters to be classes with loadouts instead of heroes with skills.
And remove levels.
And make it so more than one person can play a character at a time.
And make it first-person instead of third-person.
And add custom servers.
And remove matchmaking.
And increase server sizes.

And the most important thing at all which you're conveniently ignoring: make it so you can join and leave servers as you want. That is THE MAIN APPEAL of TF2. TF2 was designed from the beginning to be an unserious game. If you join a game and people aren't playing the way you want or getting their asses kicked, who cares? Just go somewhere else. Most people don't actually care about winning or losing, they care about running around fighting. Some don't even care about that, they're just there to hang out and have fun their own way. Some people do care about winning, a lot, and that's fine because all they have to do is go find a server where other people do.

Deadlock is THE EXACT OPPOSITE of this. Deadlock was designed from the outset to be e-sports. That's IceFrog's claim to fame with Dota: he made it a serious, balanced, competitive game. He's doing it from the ground up with Deadlock.

So no, if you like playing TF2 you probably won't like playing Deadlock. It has more in common with Dota 2.
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>>744555538
With a level 3 puddle punch and rapid recharge you get 4 punches that have a 6 second cooldown each
That means that if you play well you can have your movement up in about 10 minutes

>>744556114
Not reading all that, happy for you tho
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>>744553861
Tried again
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>>744555397
Even then you've got it so the majority of heroes fight in the same way, a rapidfire pseudo-hitscan, such a bland method of dealing damage that tf2 largely avoids it (the only actual rapidfire hitscan class in tf2 also being considered the most boring), instead of the far more colorful variety had with having proper explosive projectile users (with plenty of opportunities for cool airshots) a class who can bounce them around, and someone else with a notably higher movespeed to make landing hits on them feel rewarding.

Also as much of a janky mess tf2's melee is people enjoy having an actual weapon to switch to for it because it creates the moments where players suddenly agree to melee duels out of nowhere.
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>>744556287
draw her holding a handle on a cart of austrailium
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Deadlock is for TRANNIES.
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>>744556484
>tf2 largely avoids it
Half the classes have a rapid-fire hitscan weapon in their default loadout
>Minigun
>Sentry
>Pistol
>SMG
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>>744556287
Now do normal stuff like these >>744528286
>>744545861
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>>744556608
Heavy is the only one who has it as his primary method of attack, even then the interesting part is supposed to be the movement restrictions that you're supposed to learn to play around. Sentry is also a very different beast due to being an automated turret being the key design, hell even if you pull out the wrangler it's still interesting firing a gun where the gunfire is coming from somewhere other than you.
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>>744556608
The meat of every class is the meaty, hefty damage they deal with their primary.
Heavy, pyro and engi are the exception, but this is because Valve knew someone would like them. Their dev commentary mentions that characters like the engie are there for people who want to be more laid back and let the game play itself.
Pyro got himself the Dragon's Fury too, which is a weapon that rewards precision with meaty single shot attacks. If Valve hadn't dropped the game since then, he would've had another one. Such weapon. Heavy probably would've gotten something like the Anti-aircraft Cannon from TF2C if he ever got his update.
Case in point: No class ever got a machine gun-like weapon as a primary, like scout getting a Tommy gun or sniper getting an automatic rifle.
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>>744556608
Only two of those are high-power and their trade off is being stationary or, in Heavy's case, borderline stationary
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>>744557257
Pyro gets the feeling of big punchy attacks through the reflects and landing those flare crits. Feels especially good due to the crit sounds when they hit.

Even Medic gets to have this feeling landing the crossbow bolts and the bullshit crit saws. This is actually something Lazy Purple mentions in one of his videos, and said Heavy really felt like the only exception.
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>>744545247
All I fucking want is Half Life 3.
TWO FUCKING EPISODES
NEARLY 20
GOD
DAMN
YEARS
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>>744535983
Source on your image? Obviously it is caith sith but Google lense and yandex are fucking worthless in finding the full image and source of it.
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>>744548319
big...
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>>744520894
>"Team Fortress 3? Nah, have Deadlock instead."
Thank you, Valve.
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>>744557240
>Sentry isn't the engie primary method of attack
Uncle Dane please go

>>744557257
>>744557346
You can absolutely use the pistol as your primary with scout, especially if you're fighting a lot of engies (cuz the lack of fall-off) or pyros (to keep further away)
Fan'o'war also makes scout pistol do great damage
Pistol has a max dps of like 130ish which is enough to kill low hp classes in a second of point blank shooting, with minicrits it can get past 175 dps which lets you use it against literally everything except soldiers and heavies
It's a great weapon

SMG is trash yeah
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>>744558903
Weapon spread takes care of that. That's why emptying a pistol mag never feels as satisfying as seeing your crosshair's luscious curves signal that every pellet will connect.
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>>744520894
Valve don't know how to make good games anymore
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>>744558903
You have awful reading comprehension. I said the sentry doesn't count because it's not a rapidfire m1, of course it's engie's primary damage output.
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>>744556936
But what if I only want to draw fatty olivia
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>>744553861
holy fuck finally
unbelievably based

>>744556287
>>744560154
FUCKING SAVED
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>>744560154
>that from behind love handle view
Unbelievably squeezable.
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>>744542236
I love tf2, played it for years but I can say, for me at least, its very much over. And that's a good thing, it ended well
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>>744560154
you can still draw her doing normal stuff. because fatties having trouble doing normal stuff due to being fat is based
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>>744553259
He's a /vg/ drawfag who frequents /tf2g/ and the drawthreads over there
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>>744560872
I dont like fatties doing normal stuff. I like fatties wanting to get fatter forever and being extremely obsessed with that. so if there's any ideas like that for olivia let me know.
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>>744560952
you know what that's also based, even if it's one note
god speed
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>>744560154
You can draw her fat in the right areas
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>>744561050
there are no wrong areas
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Tf3 would never work because 80% or more if the game is coabwrics/collectibles and players would want to have/use their hats and skins in it. Tf3 works in a world without the steam marketplace.

You can't have a new game with new classes and new weapons without 99% of the playerbase crying about skins.
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>>744560952
something involving a bomb-less Payload cart being used as either a chair or a belly-wheel
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>>744521018
Watch out your gonna rule them up.
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>>744561085
There are areas that are more correct than others, such as the boobalias
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>>744553861
>>744556287
>>744560154
I haven't seen these ones yet
based
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>>744520894
Who cares? It would suck shit now. TF2 had 8 (eight) white guys in it and one nigger. TF3 would be pozzed as shit; 50% niggers, a few chinks and one white guy if you're lucky (but he's a faggot/tranny).

TF2 is a relic from the golden age of games.
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>>744553259
if you turn Epic Sword Art Online into an acronym you'll get the artist's name
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>>744561097
>if the game is coabwrics
What?
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>>744520894
Gonna be honest people who like TF2 will probably dislike Deadlock having tried it myself I dont like that it feels like Iam shooting spongey targets uninstalled it months ago it just wasnt very fun and I was playing the quick casual game mode.
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>>744523265
>>744522324
these unironically, community is full of whiny trannies and epic narwhal so random bacon redditors
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>>744562829
Phonefag apologies. *Cosmetics/collectibles.
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I'M GOO
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>>744521442
/v/ is mostly corporate shills sitting in a shed in China/India, bleeding heart liberals that hate that Overwatch/Valorant died, and actual 3rd worlders who are too addicted to Dota 2 to play another game.
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>>744522720
>instead of just endless lootbox generators
Because that's where the money is.
Basically every AAA game studio with half a brain is trying to make a massively-popular 10+ year old lootbox game with market trading because it generates assloads of profit when done well.
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>>744530417
I've been playing TF2 for decades and only saw bots for like 3 days a couple of years ago. They never did anything except sit in a lobby wasting space, which everyone fixed by just queuing into a new lobby real quick.
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>>744564323
>Because that's where the money is.
They generate billions per year based on what they already have, and that's going nowhere. They can quite literally afford to make good games until the sun explodes, they just choose not to.
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>>744564694
You must have magically not played during the multi-year long bot crisis where every other official server was filled with 6+ unkickable sniperbots on average at any given time
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I haven't played since January. How has it gotten worse and how more troon is it?
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>>744558620
Why is oppai loli so great bros
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>>744565073
it's not. in fact, it's absolute garbage.
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>>744565073
Because of the contrast in size, it's like a shortstack

>>744565149
Shit taste
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>>744534080
A homeless wife?
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>>744522324
the jannie wishes he was pic related
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Faggots mad that the guy behind Dota wanted to make a new game and the guys behind TF2 didn't. Deal with it.

I bet Icefrog at Valve is a complete stranger to most people. Like everyone else spends 90% of their time at the snack bar and on Hawaii vacations and he's in his own little corner actually making and balancing shit,
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>>744564836
>they just choose not to.
Because a mistake a lot of AAA devs make is feeling the need to shit out endless shitty games 2-3x a year no-one asked for, when people would rather have one absolute banger every 10 or 15 years.
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>>744564928
From what I saw online it looked like it was a US server only problem.
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>>744552249
Sniper whiners are such retarded fucking faggots
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>>744553861
holy fucking shit, you did my artstyle perfectly. im flattered anon :) nice work mayne thnx for the Livias
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>>744566451
Going to need that full images ASAP.
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>/v/: we don't need more sequels and remakes
>also /v/: why are you making a new IP instead of rehash #29572!?!?
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>>744566630
burn jews and stomp on niggerheads
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>>744566573
https://imgchest.com/p/bp45b3mwn45

:)

Im happy you guys like my artstyle , thank u
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>>744566747
it nice
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>>744564836
>>744566148
Flat management system falling apart because they have infinite money from existing live service games and steam. Normally they would direct people by handing out bonuses if you work on specific projects, but when all of your money comes from steam and lootboxes it stops making economic sense to hand out gigantic bonuses to people to motivate them to work on a single-player AAA game that probably has a chance of failing. Alyx only released because they needed a game to sell vr, the profits generated from the game itself were secondary and were most likely not near the margins of steam and live service games.
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>>744521018
>never posts this in shota/trap threads
noticing...
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>>744548319
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>>744567171
Hell yeah, dude.
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>>744566451
>>744566747
and I'm happy to have caused that huge titty Olivia to happen
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>>744567757
Kill yourself
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>>744566176
Then you didn't look hard enough, or you didn't read anything that wasn't in English
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>>744566148
If only there were types of release schedules between 2x-3x a year, and once every 10-15 years...
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>>744567912
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>>744567912
rude
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>>744548319
its pivotal to the tactile senses
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>>744567757
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ajvku_KiwnM
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>>744523856
>>744529416
I'll never forget the buckets of sticky hate paste I dumped to the chatbot I made of Olivia essentially buying my self-insert shota persona as a "trophy husband" and merging our two corporate families. Good times, should do more of it now that local models have improved.
>>744530519
Like that other anon said, Gray challenged Saxton Hale to a fight, but named an adopted Olivia as his champion, thus forcing Hale to forfeit since he wouldn't hit a little girl.
And then they ruined her by making her an annoying butch dyke in the flash forward, but I don't accept that as canon.
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>>744568535
nah shes better flat

https://files.catbox.moe/3737j6.png
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>>744569514
>the text
lmao
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>>744569514
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>>744569514
fake and gay
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>>744569514
god bless /v/
god bless TF2
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>>744539723
No other game has ever beat the feeling of market gardening someone, or force a naturing someone off a cliff or into a sawblade, or hitting an airblast flare gun combo, or saving someone across the map with a crossbow bolt, or crit piping a koth point full of people, or taunt killing someone chasing you, or charging as demoknight and accidentally killing some random invis spy, or or or... it just keeps going. Every time I think I'm done with the game, I think of some random voice line or crazy kill/play I got off and immediately want to play.
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>>744569964
what about mini sentry?
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>>744569964
That's more like it
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>>744570138
what about her?
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>>744570225
she should also get a mention, that's all
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>>744570313
me as the milk bottle
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>>744520894
I want L4D3. One that's not made by an ass studio, out for a quick cash grab with dumb payment quirks.
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>>744570313
Plot twist: right produces more milk than left
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>>744536941
your clique of tasteless autogynephiliacs is a part of the reason tf2 fucking sucks today. I hope you know that
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>>744569491
I don’t remember her being lesbian in the final comic.
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>>744570138
Holy sex I want to glide my tongue across her body.
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>>744569491
>And then they ruined her by making her an annoying butch dyke in the flash forward
Being a whiny teenager with a ponytail is a butch dyke now? Dude you're retarded
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>>744569491
Nigga, she was made into an alcoholic. It opens up scenarios with the bitchy substance abusing rich girl, starting as soon as she took the company.
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>>744569514
ayo this nigga playin snowplow
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>>744571486
actually that's pl_oliviaplow
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>>744521018
Nah, we'll continue ruling over you in government and in the internet.
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>>744571072
>>744571216
>>744571359
Okay I may be being hyperbolic, but I liked her as Gray's successor, as a pretty, dress wearing, prim and proper villain. And they made her into a whiny alcoholic that gets won over by a single act of kindness by Hale. Fucking bullshit. I want the sadistic lolidom little girl I was promised goddammit.
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>>744571638
>And they made her into a whiny alcoholic that gets won over by a single act of kindness by Hale.
This is what you get when they try to wrap up 15 years of lore in one comic and also apparently cut it down from a longer draft.
The whole thing was full of very unsatisfying conclusions. At least it makes sense if she was a random kid he adopted as a patsy for her to not actually care about her dad's plans once she grew up.
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>>744571638
i'd want to joke that upcoming mvm update is her against birdwell and reddy who didn't give her money as hale instructed them, but that's unlikely.
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no more 'liv?
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>>744573132
Erm I have that
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>>744573132
nigga its 4am
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>>744574103
hey, it's 5 o'clock somehwere
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>>744574091
3 dimensional pig disgusting
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>>744533180
>one proud shill
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>>744533753
sounds like the upcoming lambda fortress
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>>744523856
>>744528286
>>744545051
>>744545861
>>744548390
>>744553861
>>744556287
>>744558620
>>744560154
>>744561191
>>744566747
>>744567171
>>744568535
>>744570313
>>744573643

If you don't mind, could you do the admin lady from TF2 next? And maybe even a female Heavy too?
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>>744533753
>tf2 campaign mod
Play quake single player campaign
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>>744542236
I can't believe that Spy was Jean Dujardin all this time
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>>744538620
Emporiumtroon having a melty lmao
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Would you, Vaultbros?
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>>744566451
those brush icons
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>>744520894
>trans pedophiles and autists that can't let go of a game
You're somehow even worse than meleefags because your game still gets support
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>>744577024
Did you often masturbate to old ladies?
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>>744577608
nta but once when im in the mood
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>>744575318
>>744574091
More like 3 dimensional penis enlargement
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>>744575601
there are 4, maybe even 5 different artists' works being quoted there
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>>744565974
>actually making and balancing shit
this has to be bait
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>>744520894
Need a loli character in deadlock
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>>744521018
Seconded
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>>744578223
true, but it's never gonna happen
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>>744576410
femclasses are troon shit
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>>744578223
You can't find anything appealing between graves and rem?
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>>744578593
Rem is cute but he's a boy and Graves is also cute but she's old.
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I went through this entire thread and I am genuinely crying, if I had a gun on me I might be tempted to kill myself this very moment.
I really need to learn how to draw.
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>>744579380
>really need to learn how to draw.
START NOOOOOOOOW!!!!!!!!1!11!1!!!
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>>744579380
seek out the drawthread on /vg/ and ask for pointers
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>>744521018
Hey now, cool it with the antisemitism.
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>>744579380
just use ai, luddite
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>>744580229
0/10 bait
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>>744520894
TF2 was never good
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>Open TF2
>Fuck around as melee Heavy spamming Dispenser Here
>Close game
>Open game later and repeat
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>>744575601
I don't think they/them would ever come back now.
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>>744556604
They really wish it was, as soon as that game it out of beta the floodgates will open and the troons will rope
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>>744524869
>nu-valve
Isn't the same old-valve who thought that Meet your Match was a good idea?
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>>744564283
>bleeding heart liberals that hate that Overwatch/Valorant died
They aren't liberals, they're porn addicts. That's why they made that overlook died.
The only liberal here is the unhinged anita tranny phoneposter shitting up every Slay the Spite 2 threads.
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>>744582625
>made
*mad
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>>744576410
No. But I would definitely enjoy murdering people with her as much as I would regular Heavy.

Heavy is friend.
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Deadlock is genuinely a 1/10 disaster of a game.
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>>744583257
I agree
Deadlock is great, and will be huge
Hardly a disaster at all. Only like 10% of a disaster.
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>>744582442
no, not at all; there're team shifts or ideals between years that're extremely apparent if you look at the updates and compare them to each other.

between 2008 to very early 2012 things were tailored towards the main game with new weapons and maps, setting aside the balance which never came to extreme forms of balance because you can note that fact from certain weapons like the sandman, how shields functioned (crits would always happen after a bash at any range, turning was affected by tricking the game in a certain way) and other things; the game's focus was PVP and pvp only whilst addressing issues with patches but that's a lot to go through. putting aside the F2P update.

2012 - 2013 is them testing the waters with the new MVM update which doesn't translate at all to the main game whatsoever with very little focus towards adding more core essentials to the main gamemodes in gameplay prospects.

Then you've got the love&war and end of the line updates, these two updates are also test beds for valve to see if they can push things in certain ways for more profit
>L&W is to allow for more wackier cosmetics and additions to be put in the game which will follow as a seed planted to fester, Cold line also comes into effect but being a failure of an update by fucking up immensely with valve pulling the map that everyone anticipated with it being "too confusing", serving for the potential larger community formed updates

That is where people like robin walker or people more or so whom had an idea of how to keep TF2 interesting with borrowed ideas from before like the tide turner to the airstrike.

2015 is 100% the shift in who was developing TF2 with the gun mettle update showcasing it in major respects
>gun skins: cs:go
>contractor for rewards: cs:go
>competitive beta
this was a team shift like no other and this is where TF2 derailed into the state that it is due to the people who had a hand in it being told to make it a successor of sorts.
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>>744520894
>need an invite from someone to play deadlock
why does valve hate autists?
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>>744583689
Nigga just join the official discord, get an invite and get out
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>>744520894
What could TF3 even add that simply updating TF2 couldn’t?
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>>744583678
even putting aside the invasion update, which mind you was on the greed of the "community" or select individuals whom have a major had in the emporium or workshop scene; if invasion went without an issue, tf2 would be ROYALLY fucked as a result even if now the updates being nothing short of seasonal ones being bad in their respect but at least don't tamper in any matters other than cosmetic ways, invasion could've led to the dictation of heavily content typed focuses that the community had to obeyed by them being able to call shots by having good relations with valve but unfortunately for them, since they're all greedy backstabbing subhumans, it would've eventually blown up on them but they struck a bad note too early.

We all know the song and dance about meet your match but jungle inferno is a great showcase to the other side of their incompetence:
>pyro changes initially were busted to all hells
>2/3 weapons were shit tier overwatch designed tier weapons that're utterly fucking useless with the dragon's fury being an exception by just copying a easy aspect to run by: connect shots to deal more damage until they fucked that part up by nerfing it
>the valve made map, mercenary park, played like the usual choke heavy hell that were their maps from 2008 - 2009~ and is regarded as a shit map typically

Jungle inferno to them was a failure and for good reason, it was incredibly underwhelming with little to nothing new that changed anything overall outside of pyro becoming actually quite unique as a result of the changes but outside of that was just lackluster.

Everything around and past 2015 for TF2 was directed by a theory of higher ups issuing their new devs whom had interest for TF2, whilst barely understanding it, to follow in the footsteps as their other titles for the potential larger form esports success, which doesn't work because TF2's audience is casual by nature. Casual continues to rot this game away slowly, that's it really.
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>>744539723
How the fuck did valve manage to make a game with
>Popular 6v6 "fox only final destination no items" compfag gameplay
>The patricians truly competitive highland 9v9 gameplay
>The majority's "fuck about doing whatever you want because playing every class is fun" gameplay of quick match

Genuinely how. 9 Classes, never adding a single new one and they're all still fun because they added a couple sidegrades over the years to customise them a bit
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>>744583613
He actually thought this was clever
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>>744583678
Honestly you could probably simplify this to "at what point did robin walker stop calling the shots?", not to say he wasn't making his own share of mistakes and didn't end up contradicting himself over the years
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>>744523098
nigga never read the file lmao
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>>744586416
No way of putting it better than you did since he was the man responsible for the original mod, then again he's the reason there's a lot of fun things in tf2 because he just thought it would be fun.
His method of thinking is why TF2 was as fun as it was before, throw shit at the wall and see if it sticks or if something seems fun then just add it to the game even if it's shittier than the other weapons and if anything goes wrong or seems busted, address it that's comfortable for everyone and see if they work out.
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>>744537329
Demo, soldier, pyro and engineer would actually be good heroes
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I have 3000 hours of tf2 and as much fun as I had,
I cannot fucking believe I put up with random crits that long, holy shit man.
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>>744587006
RARE HIGH MOMENTS
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>>744539723
There's still good things about TF2 despite the fuck ups over the past 10 years. It's as if it's timeless.
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>>744587006
post the webm of the melee heavy uppercutting the medic
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Valve should just kill Team Fortress 2 so we don't hear anymore bitching from TF2fags
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>>744587819
Shut up emporium nigger
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What the FUCK is emporium nigger anyway? Is some kind of shitty tf2 trade website?
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>>744587006
tell me anon how should crits be handled?
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Finally, olivia posting in a tf2 thread, i saved every single picture, good shit
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>>744522194
>half the content from the OG game still missing
I just fucking want Danger Zone back. For all of the bitching the CSGO devs had about having to work around Source1 mapping limitations for that mode specifically, you think it'd have made a return after the first year, but the game is turning 3 in a month.
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>>744588386
NTA but I would made sure to implement it in a way so that crit hacking wouldn't be possible.
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>>744584598
>Casual continues to rot this game away slowly, that's it really.
Nah, that's all the sweaty try hards. The game started going to shit when valve began listening to those unwashed losers.
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>>744522324
But they don't have their own board like nintendofags do howeverthoughbiet....
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>>744537548
Sadly this sounds exactly like GALDUS from portal. Valve really has a thing for spiteful women, huh?
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>>744584598
I still find it funny that tourists like you can't figure out that TF2 could have been saved 1000 times over by now had they just removed the play now button and the meat your match (overatch shit) update.
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>>744587006
i think they are funny. imagine a heavy, pyro and pocket medic getting crit rocket from behind. fuck you ya payload hoggers
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>>744589775
I think it's in my best interest to say giving the community servers the full power over the player base isn't the best idea, not with a player base this mentally ill and a rollback of causal to quickplay is more than enough to patch the wound that has been bleeding for a decade now. you're simply not in touch enough with the game to understand this and not even in the respect of heavy advertisements, but generally how egotistical or biased the people have become.
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>>744533753
I've always wanted one too after End of the Line even if the update was mediocre and it's shocking they never considered it. A campaign where you infiltrate bases, search for Austrailium, and fight robots where you swap through the different classes in maps designed to best fit them would've been great.
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>>744588021
It's a clique of tf2 cosmetic item creators. The tf2 invasion fiasco with unjust percentage cuts to contributors was because of leads or just people from tf2 emporium. And also there were other dramas around it. Before discord tf2 emporium was just a thread on facepunch forums (which was publicly available), now it's a discord server.
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>>744520894
>Nah, have Deadlock instead.
Yes, I prefer MINA HAAAAAAAAA
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>>744553673
MJ has like 2 pics with Epstein, but everyone says how they don't mean anything/don't matter though. Or just straight-up don't care.
>>
NEEDA
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>Dead hours in NA so end up in a Luxembourg server with Russians and Japanese players
comfy even with 120 ping
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>>744590939
>with Russians
a fate worse than death
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>>744590181
forget valve doing it they only like their tech demos
the bit that surprises me is that there arent whole amateur auteur stories made already given how moddable valves stuff is
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drew an oppailivia for shits n giggles
https://litter.catbox.moe/a8nsa9.png
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>>744590347

RISE UP
AND TAKE
WHAT YOU
DESERVE
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>>744589670
>GALDUS
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>>744592203
neat
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And thank god for that. TF2 blows.
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Why TF2 players became pedos so suddenly?
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>>744520894
is deadlock even officially announced yet?
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>>744593970
>suddenly
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>>744533753
Because that would actually require effort and sovl and TF2 modders are soulless troglodytes.
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>>744570313
God I love big titties
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AUUUUUGHYADA
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>>744597134
FATMAN is not functioning!
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>>744589432
Comofags ruin everything they touch but casual is pure ass.
>whoops! Accidentally put you in an empty server! Vote for the next map, but oh this vote thingy broke again! The server's now empty btw. Queue again!
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>>744575601
How important was she, though?
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>>744520894
this game would be a lot better if has more sexy female characters than picrel and pauline imo
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>>744600017
true
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>>744593970
violent players like cute things and vice versa heavy
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>>744600169
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>>744597134
i love how i can hear these voicelines in my head
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Is this the thread?
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>>744600658
uh, no
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>>744575601
Sorry, no one likes hags anymore.
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>>744602068
what website is that(i only use sadpanda)
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>>744542406
Meanwhile you are defending a pedophile.
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>>744569964
>>744570142
What is your secret, my good man?
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Why do you even want a TF3? To say it sucks and go back to TF2?
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>>744536167
kek
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>>744603756
I'm pretty sure it's N-hentai, Sadpanda and Pixiv, i don't know what the fourth one is though. It's older too video too, it's over 2 million these days on Pixiv at least.
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TF2 gets stale after 100 hours.

I have no idea how it appeals to weeaboo babyfur autistic retards for so long. Must be the cartoon art style.
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>>744605162
guys that roleplay backwards-hat CoD dudebros on /v/ all day are really funny
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>>744605204
Yeah I'm cool and you're autistic (retarded)
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>>744605309
stay in school, mitch
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>>744523098
Rent-free
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>>744553861
>>744556287
>>744560154
>>744573643
I'm so glad I clicked on this thread, god bless
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can we sexualize something else other than a child
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>>744605672
there's always pyro
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>>744605373
20 years ago called

They want their 20 years ago game back LOL
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>>744605672
Literally right there in front of you, my good man.>>744575601
>>744576410
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>>744600520
kek nice one

>>744602068
words out of my mouth

>>744605672
but she's 20 years and not real
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>>744605821
no they will get gaped by my rocket in their piehole
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>>744605821
it will impress me forever the sheer speed with which mods still reply to pony posts for deletion/banning, even a decade later. utterly mind-raped
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>>744606194
Have you ever masturbated to old hags before?
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>>744605162
Just play randomizer and smoke weed.
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>>744606724
whenever you see a total fucking garbage thread on the catalog stay up, just remember that it only stays up because mods allow it to
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>>744574091
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>>744606845
how well i'm aware, as somebody that also goes to FFXIV and deltarune threads. mods moan they're doing the best they can and then it's pretty fucking obvious they laser-target specific threads and couldn't care less about the catalog
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>>744585334
Valve as a gamedev has a gilded reputation for a reason. It's also why people are quick to shut down others when they call them on their bullshit like bloating the game worh content nobody likes, because Valve made good games over 20 fucking years ago
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>>744607592
That's
>>744604130
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>>744605739
start posting
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>>744606724
Deleting pony posts faster than actual CP. It's crazy.
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>>744606782
Shiho Nishizumi
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>>744608375
>muh loli is pedo
You have to be 18+ or older to post here.
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>>744608560
no, martyr complex, he was not talking about normal loli porn
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>>744608560
lolicons do their uoh meme to children on /tv/ and realistic children on /v/
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>>744608764
and you would know because you enter in said threads?
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>>744520894
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>>744608560
Nigger, i said actual CP. Nothing about lolis. I think lolis are based but i also think pony porn is also based and hot.
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>>744608375
Well, GR15 is still there but is MLP fandom really that big anymore that they could spam the whole site with shit tons of ponies or is it because there is still some autists like Lee who can't stand it and spam the threads until they are deleted?
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>>744609010
it was never actually a huge problem, the INSTANT REPLIES and instant pants-shitting is why we have a global rule against it, why the ponies have their own board (that's somehow so poisonous they don't have the sheer braindead trolling concentration most other boards do after Lee was slain and so retain some semblance of board culture even now), and why mods reply to pony reports faster than they do actual US law violation reports they're legally obligated to respond to

it was never a matter of ponies being big or inherently volatile, it was a matter of ponies living rent-free in the heads of people with power on the website
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>>744609010
lol mods dont give a shit about what the actual rules say, things get deleted based on how they personally feel about the post. if gr15 was removed tomorrow pony posts would still get instantly deleted
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>>744608764
if you haven't noticed over the last 10 years real pedos have infiltrated lolicons, because they think if they manage to equate real stuff with fiction they gain acceptance or at least tolerance. they don't really care that it actually will have the opposite effect and fictional stuff will be shunned/banned because of them since they have nothing to lose.
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>>744522324
I will never see another game with a class like spy so I'm sticking with the game until it shuts down for good
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>>744563173
>>744522324
samefag, transfag
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>>744609447
>pedophiles infiltrated and ruined the rep of the lolicon community
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>>744609010
Barneyfag or lee hasn't actually been a thing since forever and is actually coordinated discord strikes amongst an individual group to fabricate the nature of his posts by selectively picking images that are related then dumping responses in kind to derail or kill threads.
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>>744608764
>>744609447
>>744609704
pedo website
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>>744608591
>>744608867
OH fair enough lol sorry about that anons
This place is so full of shit and irony that I don't see any sincerity at all.

>>744609447
Did you know that the MAP community is mostly filled with trannies? Judging by their bios...
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>>744592203
Thank you for your contribution to the oppai cause
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>>744609738
>is actually coordinated discord strikes amongst an individual group to fabricate the nature of his posts by selectively picking images that are related then dumping responses in kind to derail or kill threads.
But why though? Do they hate some threads so much that they want to kill them or is it a group that still has hate towards bronies?
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>>744609704
i don't care if you believe me or not. if you'd do your research you'd know i'm right.
>>744609914
i try to stay away as far as possible from them. but it wouldn't surprise me since anyone who makes their sexuality their personality, has no other character traits other that having to tell everyone what arouses them.
the problem is that casual users and newfags don't do their research and spread absolute bullshit because it looks right or it doesn't matter to them since for them it would be kind of like defending pedos. the truth is just the whole lolicon thing has so many nuances that you could write several encyclopedias. you'd have to have been there the whole time or be the biggest autist and spend days researching internet history of which quite a few things aren't as easy to find if at all, so i do kind of get them, but it's still irritating.
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>>744609601
cry tranny
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>>744606970
>FFXIV
I know about the janny seething about deltarune but did he really chimp out over FINAL FANTASY?
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>>744608867
>I think lolis are based but i also think pony porn is also based and hot.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/I9knvF6XSi4
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>>744570026
>No other game has ever beat the feeling of market gardening someone,

The only thing that beats this is other shit i nthe game

>dozens of played out path finding movement scenarios calculating in the background as I release the hunstman arrow at nothing in the doorway and watching an enemy scout jump into it head first.
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>>744608375
>acting surprised the jannys are actual pedos
anon…
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>>744610239
tradition and just selective targetting for threads these deem worth their time; they could care less about bronies and are probably ones themselves from having to specifically find images from the booru in order to cross reference for the derailment.
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>>744521018
That's islamophobic, kaffir.
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>>744610834
literally me
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>>744610672
>projection
lol, melty
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>>744578592
No they're not, you're just obsessed. Femclasses were invented in 2008 before troons existed on the internet. That Femheavy was made by a biological woman, who also did a lot of the other femclasses. Fempyro was made by a straight man with a biological wife.
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>>744610946
The Huntsman is such a retarded bullshit weapon
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>>744610239
It's moreso weird motherfuckers from "trolling sites" like the sharty or Kiwi Farms that want to keep Lee's memory alive, Lee himself hasn't been active in years after getting out-autismed (and doxxed)
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>>744612224
Seethe more
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i still need helen
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>>744612924
>Hale got to fuck that
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>>744610569
It's just some degenerate fetish, it's not that deep.
It that got the attention of children and mentally ill internet users trying to pull up a "video game causes violence" bullshit, but instead it's "drawings causes pedophilia". Which by the way, the number of these people are hilariously small.

If we're talking about the government, keep in mind that it's only 3 nations that are like this (said nation who banned trivial stuff btw). Otherwise most of them are fine or at worse in a gray area.
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>>744589432
>>744597352
you two actually agree with each other, you just don't know how to speak english so you're getting confused
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>>744609447
>last ten years
/l/ had to be deleted because anons kept posting real cp.
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>>744610834
hi turkroach
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>>744615829
And I shit you not, the same schizo shitposter from that dogshit board was found in most /v/hu threads i believe in february
If you were there and wonder why they post cp in some of the eosd threads, this is why.
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>>744612224
Until you try and use it, then it becomes actually hard to land headshots on people
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>>744535983
Sauce on the furry porn?
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>>744612224
It's more fair than any sniper rifle
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>>744616290
The more you TRY the worse it works. With the hunstman all you need to "vibe aim". >>744617482
Yes, Sniper is such an awful fucking class that its jankiest weapon is also the most balanced.
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>make a post a second ago mentioning sniper
>get reminded of a sniper that seethed at me and his team when I backstabbed a medic with Kunai, he headshot me and left me with about 60 hp, I backstabbed his pyro, healing me, he headshot me, I backstabbed a demoman, finally a soldier turned around at the demos death yell, hit me with a rocket that I surfed and I flew backwards and landed behind the sniper, backstabbing him and then taunting as I died to a crit rocket
He called me a nigger at least 7 times in the next 3 minutes
God I fucking love Spy and this 20 year old engine that's still somehow alive despite the developers best efforts to kill it
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>>744617542
Sniper is the best class in the game.
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>>744617898
Max skill level he's AIDs of the highest caliber, especially since razorback exists, but if you mean class strength it would still be medic edging him out
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>>744617981
Razorback is fine as you can just shoot him with your gun, and Medic is one of the weakest classes.
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>>744617898
play him in vs hale
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>>744615414
it was not that deep 10+ years ago. now there are all kinds of groups trying to set the narrative for everything (whether they are successful or not is a different topic)
>mentally ill internet users trying to pull up a [...] "drawings causes pedophilia"
in part they are just that. but the other parts are people who see the connection but don't know and/or don't care where it's coming from. they don't want to see the nuance because they believe that there is no difference between liking lolis and liking real kids and partly you can't even blame them anymore nowadays with how many real stuff terms have become popularized to refer to fiction as well
>the number of these people are hilariously small
you underestimate their numbers and power. if payment processors make rules aligned with their sensitivities, they are not "hilariously small"
>>744615829
>/l/
i can't really comment on that since that was before my time (2008 eternal newfag) but from what i remember /b/ and /v/ was like back then, my guess is that whole /l/-thing was just a result of the internet being new and overlooked by law, and 4chan itself being new and not yet having an established userbase and culture, so it was basically a free for all. i'd say moot was right to delete it but he should've brought it back later with strict rules and strict bans, though this would have also required heavy security measures to prevent abuse, especially nowadays. i guess he just didn't want to put in all the effort only for it to be circumvented somewhere down the line. on the other hand imo if he hadn't sold off this site to someone who doesn't care, all the problems the site faces right now wouldn't exist. that goes for everything that emerged after he left. election tourists wouldn't have this much impact, sharty and the proxy site(s) wouldn't exist, and of course the moderation would be more transparent, the rules would be clear and the userbase would self regulate everything else.
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>>744618684
my point was paedophilia and lolita complexes have always gone hand-in-hand, and the claim they didn't was purely a pragmatic thing to get normalfags off the trail.
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>>744610820
Their seethe knows no bounds anon.
Apparently Snoot Game pissed them off too.
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>>744523098
seething migakeks replying to this kek
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>>744592203
erry noice

https://files.catbox.moe/z1e4ih.png
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>>744521018
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>>744619275
plr_pipeolivia
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>I found the Dazzi Olivia image
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>>744617981
>>744618649
you're replying to a troll schizo from vg, sorry you had to find out this way guys
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>spamming dogshit art to finish the thread off
poetic
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>>744619570
I don't know why he wandered in here when the thread is entirely about Olivia. Maybe he secretly likes loli
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>>744619590
the olivia drawfriend lives rent free in your turkroach head to the point where you follow wherever it's posted
he owns you lil bro
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>>744607786
i love fat latex ass so much
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>>744619618
cuz he's jealous of the artist, just look at the post above yours
>590
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>>744619689
Me too
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>>744521442
>launch TF3
>main menu takes a minute to load because it's rendering a 3D model of the game in Source 2
>open matchmaking
>get to choose between CTF, Payload and Control Point only
>games takes another minute or two to load after finding a match
>choose class
>5 male characters, 4 female characters
>explosive primaries removed from the game because they were too strong, soldier uses a machine gun with a grenade launcher attached to it that replaces rocketjumping, demoman throws heavily limited grenades and the stickies are replaced with mines that beep from time to time
>explosive jumping heavily nerfed, far less horizontal force except against enemies
>all the classes have the same speed because being speedy is too strong, scout gets reconnaissance weapons instead like tagging enemies to give them an outline
>pyro's DoT heavily nerfed
>sniper's headshots only deal 1.5x of charged weapon damage, cannot instakill anyone except on a headshot and only some classes
>spy's backstab deals heavy damage and stuns an enemy for a few seconds instead of instakilling them, then goes on cooldown
>sentries nerfed, engineer can only build a tier 1 sentry for area control, arbitrary restriction where sentries have to be a certain distance from each other due to "balance"
>medic's ubercharge drains with damage taken because being completely invincible is too strong
>can't join an ongoing match, can't change loadout after a match started, only a quarter of the weapon options and most of the weapons either have negligible differences or have severe drawbacks
>players buy upgrades between each round
>8v8 at most
>far smaller maps with far more corridors and side paths
>balance patch every week or two and the developers are only looking at winrates so they keep doing micro-nerfs and micro-buffs
>no option to have matchmaking without keeping rank in mind
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>>744619786
me three
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>>744619761
It's sad how easily he was mindbroken over someone else getting popular, now he obsessively stalks the olivia art wherever it's posted
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>>744619786
damn that's some juicy animation
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>>744607786
post fempyro1.png
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>>744619952
Juicy animation for a juicy ass
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>>744620008
why can't pussies that fat be real
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>>744619820
don't even joke like that
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>>744521018
Based
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>>744620030
They can but they're rare look up Candy Cameltoe
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>>744619820
>spy's backstab deals heavy damage and stuns an enemy for a few seconds instead of instakilling them, then goes on cooldown
Lol even in CS2 you can backstab
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>>744618756
you are partly right but my point was that too many don't act pragmatic anymore and openly say it. and this being the result of a somewhat coordinated effort. and now we are beyond the point of no return. because too many feel like going back to being reasonable and keeping your mouth shut about certain things is like having their rights taken away or something. and the fucking moralfags really pour oil into the fire as well, causing many to act that way even if they aren't really are like that just to spite them. you cannot even imagine just how much moralfags help the real pedos (the criminal kind) with their cause, even outside the drpizza memes, it's like they want to feel good about themselves and be seen as good so much that they are willing to literally sacrifice real children for that. and those who moralfag ironically for (You)s and thread derailment purposes are even worse since they make the real ones feel welcome, thus enabling their lunacy.
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>>744620092
ain't no way that shit's natural
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>fucking around trying to get people to melee fight me
>get uppercutted by another Heavy
>game exaggerates your own ragdoll and my Heavy flies across the map
TF2 is literally the only game where you dying is funny.
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>>744620674
It is, IIRC she had some condition that led to it growing bigger than normal. Genetics are weird
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>>744600169
pls gib sauce before the thread dies
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>>744520894
You either walk into the sunset as a TF2, or live to see yourself become a Fortnite.
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>>744621584
>become
lol
lmao



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