Well that explains the quality of recent Nintendo games
Who cares
>>744525249he doesnt even make games anymore so who cares?
Yeah the decline in quality is very noticeable, I think it started midway through the switch lifetime.
>>744525567I only got a S2 to move my games overI dont expect to buy any new games outside fire emblem and xenoblade and maybe the next 2D metroidVideogames feel on the way out
>>744526279>buying 80 dollar fire emblemYou should hurry up & die so the rest of us can start getting good games again
it's because Nintendo died with Iwata. That man was irreplaceable.
>>744525567I'd say it began around 2011 or so.
>>744525567success breeds complacencywhy try to make something good when you know that you've got millions of manchildren that'll buy your products for themselves, a copy for their children, and then every "special edition" you put out?the modern nintendo era started with BotW, that game proved to them that they can get away with making generic slop since their primary fanbase doesnt care if a franchise has been ruined or not.
>>744525249???You said Miyamoto went to work on the theme park mines. Why is it still his fault about the current state of Nintendo toys?
>>744525249And it will only be getting worse. Time to find a new hobby
>>744527337He probably created a culture of non-games people LARPing as him. Which is why nintendo are now struggling to make worthwhile games again, and why they're now using the BOTW template for everything (outsourcing game design to the players)
>>744526494>this butthurt over fire emblemlmao
that's pretty common these days
>>744525249I don't understand this mentality, it's absolutely retarded to not hire people who love and appreciate your IPs. no wonder how literally everything they've made since the GameCube sucks ass
I don't really expect 90 year old grandpas to play video games but I do expect them to get out of the business at least
>>744527683Never gonna happen. Shiggy got cosmic levels of glazing his whole career, which is why he thinks of himself as a god. He needs to impart his immaculate opinions onto everything.
>>744527605
The average fan can't even make a good romhack.You want those kinds of people working on the actual games?
>>744525249All of Miyamoto's best games use gameplay ideas established before they came out.At some point Miyamoto got convinced that the background knowledge of games he was using to build his hits "didn't count" and his actual strength was how little he knew about gaming.Dragon Quest came out only a few months after The Legend of Zelda. At the time, they were seen as incredibly similar games. Both were directly inspired by Ultima and Wizardry on a gameplay level. But these days, Miyamoto swears up and down that the only part of his experiences that mattered to developing Zelda was the real life childhood experiences he was trying to portray, and the gameplay just sort of emerged from the ether.tl;dr: Not even Miyamoto himself is better off not being passionate about gaming, why would a rando hired in 2026 be better off not being passionate about gaming?
>>744528150>All of Miyamoto's best games use gameplay ideas established before they came out.Pikmin was his best game and was wholly unique.But yeah, he's a solid case of Losing The Plot, which i wonder what the japanese term is.
>>744527605The people who made the company and made it great were people who werent Nintendo game fanatics
>>744528397In 1980 someone who weren't particular attached to gaming had a broader perspective of what games could be than a gaming superfan.In 2020, these roles have reversed. People who don't really like games have a narrow and stereotypical view of what they are and can be, a superfan knows that technology has developed in every direction so hard that almost nothing short of true responsive AI is impossible.
>>744525249It's over...
>>744525249>Well that explains the quality of recent Nintendo gamesTheir good quality?
>>744525249People are mistaken about Nintendo, they think it's this based company that only cares about making fun games when in reality Nintendo is simply a decade behind industry trends and cancers, their games have been pretty bad recently because they caught up with the open world meme and now they also caught up with remake culture, they even put millennial writing in Metroid which was a big trend around 2020 but something the industry has slowly been moving away from.
>>744527443If one company could actually benefit from AI usage, it's Level 5. Might help them release a game without six delays.
>>744529468The quality dropped enormously within the last few generations.
>>744530407Botw has been scientifically proven to be the best game ever
>>744530748Sales don't correlate to quality nearly as much as they do to market size and quantity of marketing.
>>744529468I have forced "Nintendo hype train" bot reply fatigue.
>>744527454smells like a smashie
As long as Sakurai keeps playing games it'll be just fine.
>>744530867Watch out, they'll call you a snoy for noticing that Nintendo has a narrative that doesn't match reality.
There's no way splatoon raiders was developed by people who aren't passionate about video gamethis must be for the people who make the mario games
Rhythm Heaven Groove and Splatoon Raiders are both amazing so I'd say we're in good hands.
>>744525567But the switch had no games for the first half of its lifetime
>>744527531They all look like classic nerds? Wtf is your point?
>>744525249This headline is trying to make a connection between two entirely separate things that are presented out of context to paint a picture that doesn’t reflect reality>myamoto says he doesn’t play games anymoreThe context that’s left out is that he doesn’t play them anymore because he’s too busy to, not that he doesn’t like them anymore. He still plays with his grandkids when they ask>nintendo doesn’t hire passionate game fansComplete misrepresentation. It's not that they don’t hire game fans, it’s that they want employee’s who are more than just game fans so they can bring something unique to the table than being derivative. Obviously they want their devs to actually like the work they doNone of these statements presented are accurate to what was actually stated and they have no relation between each other, but the author wants you to think so cause its implications are much more eye-catching and click-inducing. What miyamoto does personally on his own time has 0 bearing on how nintendo operates
>>744528812Also keep in mind that before Nintendo got into video games they were largely a company in the business of selling chintzy toys, so in around 1980 the company was full of people good at that and as it turned out a toy designer mentality in that time period was conducive to experimentation and innovative game design.
>>744531121Splatoon just tells me they need to hire more lolicons and less westerners
>>744525249Yes? It's a business, not a playground. The idea is to sell toys.
>>744530407>The quality dropped enormously within the last few generations.According to who?
>>744531283I was gonna say this post is dumb but then Im reminded of hasbro and the transformers designers who make toys they personally want (which usually suck) rather than what buyers would want. So this is probably right
>>744531303Not a single game has broken 80 in the Switch 2 gen other than Bananza, accounting for Nintendo's inflated scores.
I see this is the valid criticism baldy's been crying that we need more.
>>744531303Anyone who liked their franchises before the Switch. Maybe some can only complain that their preferred franchise has suddenly dried up like Mario.
>>744531212No that's not at all what "classic" nerds looked likeThe people that made good western vidya were more like this.
>>744525328The truth is that gamers often make terrible developers, same as filmgoers make awful movies.Jack Septiceye's "Bloodborne" series is the kind of shit you'll get. The dude has started shilling Digital ID now, because he's butthurt that he can't take down his critics.
>>744531223>It's not that they don’t hire game fans, it’s that they want employee’s who are more than just game fansThat's the same thing. Making a game doesn't require you to enjoy video games at all, in fact it's easier if you don't personally enjoy video games because you aren't even trying to satisfy your own standards, just the design spec you were given. When you make an original contribution it probably isn't something actually new or interesting, it's likely something that was done already, and you're just unaware because you don't really play games.The Miyamoto of old played games without his grandchildren asking him to, and used the gameplay ideas he was exposed to to develop his own games. Because he LIKED games.
>>744531453then say that instead of coming off as a salty botw contrarian.
>>744526565He only led Nintendo through their most nostalgiafagging and safeslopping second act as a leading game corporation after the golden NES->N64 era of the company. The thing about it is that he was the type of CEO who held on to his own decisions and not doing only stuff taken from advisors, which I think the current CEO is doing as a banking/finance moron. But that doesn't mean Iwata is super unique or anything like that. He was a more entrepreneurial guy. I've worked with both types of bosses myself, where there was a CEO clash and the board ultimately ended up in favor of the Iwata-esque guy, because we were failing and the more finance/aggressive guy was always talking about "Muh shortsighted plan" as if it was a good thing, and they just needed something different, so they listened to the other guy who was like "Long-sighted plan, do it my way!" etc.Nintendo is just one rotation away from getting a CEO who has a vision for the company instead of this fucking banking/financializing cabal that's sitting on the company nowadays. Yamauchi ran it like a family business. Iwata ran it to champion that without the family business head there anymore. Shuntaro just runs it like a bank.It's probably why they had such good ties with Ubisoft. Family businesses sticking close to each other. Literally all they need is a leadership change where they take a gamble on a different kind of guy. I think the catalyst to get there is that Nintendo needs to well and truly fail for a while. Either they'll try to go private again, or they'll find someone who "does it differently". That's usually how it goes, and the only reason that's not happening right now is because their business is going well, all things considered.
>>744531537Non-gamers make much worse developers. Look at Nintendo, they're convinced making every possible genre and IP "more open world" will improve them, that's because their devs don't play games and don't know every fucking company already went through this phase to disastrous results.
>>744531801Why would someone saying Nintendo's gotten worse recently be a BOTW contrarian? Are you implying it's contrarian to dislike the open world game with four dungeons?
>>744531474botw and odyssey were high quality games. you can find reasons to handwring about them but they weren't a reflection of the bottom falling out of nintendo's talent.
>>744531918BotW was made by people who know so little about games they can't tell how 3D Zelda ever evoked a sense of adventure. It shows. The parts of it that can be called high quality are mostly the technical parts they stole Monolithsoft to make work. Everything about it that tries to be "Zelda" is subpar.
>>744531212>They all look like classic nerdsHave a pity (you) but get better bait next time
>>744531817What I mean is that a good workaholic or a highly analytical or disciplined person typically does a lot better than either a gamer or a casual non-gamer that wants to "try video games".A huge reason for soullessness other than size is that the last 15 years of fostering talent, especially in California, and parts of the EU, has been done through more and more institutionalized knowledge, where thousands of students are taught the same idiotic design patterns and content methods before they enter a game studio. Companies always look for staying up to date. It's one of the reasons why EA went GaaS. Yes, it's lucrative, but at the time "Software as a Service" was being touted as the new black, so in computer science and game design classes we also started seeing this rush of "How to make Microservices!" and "How to make Enterprises". You had to always do "business analyses" where I went. As much as the campus tried to specialize the courses as "game development" it was ultimately a degree that fell under regular "Software development", so because software itself was moving towards a lot more cloud-bullshit, "service-oriented" design, it made sense that all the newest (and cheapest) talent to recruit had to be attracted on those kinds of things. Couple that with moronic game design classes that has raised an army of ""UX'ers"" who only know how to make the God of War 2018 HUD design, or in Japan the "Yellow paint" disease, that's how you get here.It's got less to do with Nintendo, and more to do with how many people flock to games, and how many normies just learn the regular path to design, whereas in the 80s and 90s there were no verified lessons -- people were self-taught and only the most skilled people actually made it through data science studies etc, and found their own "language" with computers.That's kinda what's wrong. Nintendo is too established, and the source of talent has to be whoever is on the up-and-up.
i wish nintendo would give up with their exclusivity bubble crap so that i could play raiders on PC.im not paying 600 dollars to play one game.
>>744531879>Why would someone saying Nintendo's gotten worse recently be a BOTW contrarian?he said last several generations which implies going back that far and shitting on their marquee game.>Are you implying it's contrarian to dislike the open world game with four dungeons?I'm implying it's delusional to think your personal distaste is a reflection of nintendo losing their touch with that game. they entered a genre and immediately delivered arguably the most fun, polished entry in its history.
>>744525249This worked maybe 30 years ago when there was a lot of things that havent been done yet but nowadays? Someone who has a certain degree of experience with games should be able to tell when the gameplay sucks or menus are idiotic.
>>744532137Funny, I thought PC gamers were rich and money was never an issue.
Yeah, that's a good thing. You don't want to hire gamers. You want to hire talented programmers and designers and planners
An engineer who creates the architecture for bank backends will be 100x of a better programmer than a "gaming enthusiast" who picked up Unity.
>>744532289money isnt an issue because i dont spend money like a retard, such as not spending 600 dollars to play a single game.
>>744532127>A huge reason for soullessness other than size is that the last 15 years of fostering talent, especially in California, and parts of the EU, has been done through more and more institutionalized knowledgeThis, I agree with wholeheartedly. But I think anyone who can go through even one "game design" class without wanting to tear their eyes out isn't really much of a gamer. If you played a decent quantity of games, and had even a bit of a brain, you'd be able to remember exceptions to every design rule you were taught in class. And unlike painting or sketching where there are rules that you have to learn before you learn to break them, these rules are taught as authoritative, that you should never break them no matter how much personal experience you have. Basically, a gamer with the brain for game development would never take a game design class with more than a grain of salt. Only a non-gamer might.
>>744531817>Look at Nintendo, they're convinced making every possible genre and IP "more open world" will improve themShinya Takahashi is partly to blame, but I believe ever since Breath of the Wild Nintendo has been changed into a corporation that primarily has a "notes from above" system, where it's not Miyamoto or the "Creative Fellows" that pass down ideas anymore, but the "Business & Market Research" group which run it like EA, with lots of focus groups, "risk-aversion" and they CONSTANTLY go like "Hey, Minecraft!" and "...Like Minecraft!"It's like that story about one of the early BioWare devs that quit EA, because he wanted to make new IP and presented a really creative project to the board, and their literal reaction was>We're looking to make a Facebook game. Can you make that work?And he just quit because of that interaction, realizing it's that kind of company.And Nintendo is sorta becoming the same now. They clearly have some hyper financialized department calling the shots now. Just look at every fucking game they make having either Minecraft, Roblox or Fortnite callbacks in it. Even Donkey Kong (which is otherwise quite good) feels way too Minecraft-adjacent, and this doesn't come just because there's developers who are really enthusiastic about it. It comes from people looking at statistics and saying "If Minecraft sells this much, why the fuck is our company not trying to make those kinds of games!!?!" and then Shinya Takahashi has to tell that to the EAD groups.That's also why I can't really stand Breath of the Wild. It's not "magical" to me. It just smells like Nintendo having to take the first notes from above, and putting up with it, but because it seemed so "Un-Nintendo" at the time, people were over the moon with it.
>>744525567Bananza was very good imo. Splatoon Raiders fell flat with the post game, I think a big issue with modern Nintendo is that they are designing their games to be played in bitesized chunks way too often. They're catering too hard to ADHD kids at a base level, even with Bananza it's made with being able to play for 3 minutes and getting a banana in mind. Splatoon Raiders is all 3 to 5 minute stages, I get that the Switch is designed as a portable but it's getting out of hand.
>>744532176>he said last several generationsBOTW, SS, and maybe TP isn't exactly a golden age of Zelda, even if you cut out BOTW.>your personal distasteLmao.
>nintendo head canon the threadyou're a delusional retard
>>744532448Idk, I occasionally got fed up with the core game programming/design courses I took and I've played at least 200 games from start to finish in my life, and developed a very strict and strong taste. You also had to constantly put up with group members who were also "big gamers" but it just means Counter Strike, League of Legends and Hearthstone, and that's all they can point to.
>>744532392>I don't spend money like a retard >Buys the system that doesn't have the games he wants to play and now acts like if saving 600 bucks makes him look smart in a chinese basket weaving forumEither just admit you're a retard with your own hobbie, or just got a PC to be like your favourite streamer, or that you're a poorfag, there's nothing wrong with any of those
>>744532681it is one (1) game that i kinda want to play.i am not spending 600 dollars on one game.
>>744532681He clearly mostly dislikes the games on Switch and mostly likes the games on PC. Splatoon is an exception.
>>744525249Reminder that shiggy was obsessed climbing the trees in Zelda BOTW that Aonuma got frustrated that shiggy didnt want to go anywhere else in the zelda botw demo.
>>744532628Yeah, you took the game design you learned there with a grain of salt, right? Because they occasionally taught you shit that you could point to direct counter-examples of that were good and maybe even successful. This is exactly what I'm talking about: Only people who aren't really into gaming can go through those courses and come out thoughtlessly parroting the design ideas they were taught.Man, Hearthstone used to be such a big thing. What even is the current digital card game? There is one, right? There can't not be.
>>744532847Considering climbing things is one the deepest things you can do in BotW without having to menuing like if the game was a PS1 FF, I don't blame Miyamoto.
>>744532569>Bananza was very good imofor me it had too many heartlessly placed collectibles just like Odyssey
>>744525567We're you not alive during the wii
>744531170>Breath of the Wild>Splatoon 2>Super Mario Odyssey>Xenoblade 2>Smash Ultimate>Super Mario Maker 2>Fire Emblem Three Houses>Astral Chain>Luigi's Mansion 3>Animal Crossing New Horizons>Metroid DreadAnd that's just what I can think of off the top of my head in the first 4 years of the Switch's life. Also no (You) for you.
When the FUCK is the switch 2 getting hacked? This shit is getting ridiculous. It's been over a YEAR.
>>744532569>designing their games to be played in bitesized chunks way too often. They're catering too hard to ADHD kidsI barely scrapped the surface of Switch library but from what I've seen that's exactly what's happening. Looks like they're trying to make games "satisfying" and addicting which is something I try to avoid in vidya.
>>744531223you got the autism, right? get a clue retard no one talks like that. freak!
>>744533043I will never forget that one of his comments was along the lines of>"that's suspicious, there must be a dungeon around here"To which Aonuma couldn't reply at all and Miyamoto obviously didn't find the dungeon.
>>744527241Doesn't help the fans are mentally ill and shills every frame like crazy
>>744525249Seems to be working out just fine
>>744534957>1. slop>2. slop>3. slop>4. classic>5. meme rating>6. classicnot a good look for raiders.
>>744525249Miyamoto hasn't made any game is in the past 10 years.Cry more, Snoy.
>>744530867>>744530958Snoy hands typed these posts.
>>744535402cute, but billions of PCs have been sold across the globe.
>>744531474>Anyone who liked their franchises before the Switch
>>744535463And most of those billions don't play games on them making your point meaningless.
>>744525249I've noticed that when Western teams consist of or bring in a lot of non-gamers, the product gets a LOT worse. The best Western games from the past five years are made by teams that love vidya and take inspiration from many games particularly Japanese (E33, BG3, Hi Fi Rush etc.)but when Japanese dev teams bring in people who are total outsiders, the game ends up being unexpected, bold and fresh kino. I mean your Itois, Miyazakis, Keita Takahashis (studied sculpture and lost passion for it and then did art for Namco until he pitched Katamari), etc.There is a lot potential in "outsider enters industry and makes art channeling their life experiences", it's how the medium evolves, but the West always puts the wrong people in charge for this at least at bigger studios.
>>744535495>back down to 4million for EoWthis doesnt make the point you think it does.
>>744535495Yeah. They brought in a bunch of people who hated every previous Zelda with this one. The numbers reflect that.
>>744525249>Switch 2 can not be emulated>daily seething threads like this oneSuch is the life of a vegan.
>>744535630made a mistake with this post, forgot Tango Gameworks was a Japanese studio and remembered after hitting submit. it being a Microsoft game threw me off for a sec
>>744535142>Requiem>Slop????
>>744535684EoW isn't a mainline title retard so you comparing it totk is dumb.
>>744535697Nindians love that shit, anon. They only care about sales quantity and nothing else anymore. Sony shitposting in the mid 2010s brainfucked them beyond repair.
>>744536985>erm, it doesnt countnot an argument.
>>744526494If the game is good, the fact they're not giving us ugly hags justifies the $80 on it's own.
>>744537905No the fuck it isn't retard
>>744526494It's 60 in my country
>>744527454>>744530916Rent free
>>744527827His belief on vidya games being products and not art is still applicable and even more important today as we have too many developers getting blank cheques to make their vanity projects that waste people's money.
>>744526565He should have paid better attention to his health. Who dies of tear duct cancer?
>>744536985>EoW isn't a mainline title retardProof?
>>744537949I want to support AA/AAA devs that aren't being eaten by the woke mind virus. I brought Stellar Blade at full price for the same reason.
>>744531814With how terrible managers with a business degrees have been, I begin to think that economics is a pseudo-science.
>>744528812The old geezer that was running Nintendo before Iwata understood how to cultivate a workforce that could create interesting and popular games even though he never liked games himself and even saw it as a massive waste of time.His vision was essentially:>Hire people with skills that wouldn't get them a job anywhere else>Cultivate their skills and give them what they need (not necessarily what they want) in order to keep improving and staying focused>Give them a reason to stick around that isn't just based on the paycheck they get at the end of the month>Start recruiting people who have no fucking clue what they are doing (essentially blank slates) but that show a willingness to learn and improve>Be extremely aggressive towards competition and try to outmaneuver them as cheaply and smartly as possible>Look for talent where others wouldn't>Trust your employees to handle everything work related while you steer the company away from large blunders>Be hard but fair, never back down but never be afraid to admit fault if your proven wrong, let people prove you wrongEssentially, Pre-Boomer CEOs actually knew how to run a company for longer than a few years at a time and put more devotion towards the companies mission statement and employees than its financials.
>>744525249"Super passionate game fans" in Japan only care about gacha and fantasy slop. They need people who see value in Mario etc to make games otherwise they would never be made. If the super passionate game fans took control of Nintendo it would make nothing but Xenoblade, Fire Emblem, and Kirby.
>>744538498>against woke>gonna buy DEI EmblemCan’t tell if Nintengoy or an Indian market-Saar
>>744538771>Pre-Boomer CEOs actually knew how to run a company for longer than a few years at a time and put more devotion towards the companies mission statement and employees than its financials.For real bro. Company watches after 30 years of service used to mean something lol
>>744538916It's not DEI if they're hot.
>>744539049>they don’t count if I use fanart and pretend it doesn’t countYou’re a lesser being. Please stop replying to me.
This look like the new Eric seetge thread. Lots of retarded handwringing and samefagging
>>744525249Sounds like Hayao Miyazaki and Ghibli and anime. It's OK to have non otaku opinions. Otherwise you can get insular otaku slop like wish fulfillment isekai.
>>744527605Hiring fans is the quickest way to get nothing but an IP circlejerk and give the IP in question a self-referential existential crisis
>>744539180Is that the cope you cultists use after that Pauline retard revealed that tendies are crippled dysgenic retards?
>>744531537>gamers often make terrible developers>t. passionless faggot
>>744526494Doesn’t matter anyway, Three Houses was fluke success, people really wanted Persona on Switch and now it’s here so I doubt the reheated 3 Houses for $80 will even get close to original 3H sales.
>>744525249>recent Nintendo gamesDK Bananza is the best game Nintendo has released in a decade
>>744531121Based
>>744526494$80 makes sense for a series with rabid fans, they will buy it.
>>744539271Rhythm Heaven Groove had people who played the games as kids on board. It turned out to be a hitEat shit and die
>>744539259miyazaki is a closet otaku,
>>744539172She's hot in the game, too.
>>744539320Stupid attempt at deflection, little wheels
>>744539442It was also still overseen and managed by WarioWare/Rhythm Heaven alumni who've been working on the games for just as long
>>744534957Meanwhile OG Ocarina has a 99 scoreAnd motherfucking Conker in the top 10
Miyamoto isn't doing shit anymore and hasn't for a while so him playing games or not hasn't really anything to do with the games quality.He is too busy doing paperwork management stuff and focuses on Nintendos growing movie business. Only occasionally you have Nintendo devs approach him going "Oh great Miyamoto sensei we wanna do X can you give us your valuable input - we value your opinion more than anyone elses"And thats when he actually plays a bit and gives feedback.
>>744539546>moving the goalpostsconcession accepted
>>744539494>this is the absolutely pathetic coping attempt subhuman tendies will be making moving forwardLmfaooo
>>744535142I SHALL NOT ACCEPT THIS BADMOUTHING OF THE *CLASSIC* THAT IS DISNEY CORY IN THE HOUSE!
>>744537905Lol nope
>>744538652Big Money has all the incentive in the world to obfuscate how money works so they can be on top of a fradulent system.
>>744539049Looks like Camillia 2.0 with the blatant cleavage
>>744539596>>744534957metacritic is a joke, so naturally tendies gravitate towards it
>>744539613C' mon Paikine cag, nobody believed you were a tendy, you acted like the usual snoytranny.Why are snoyim always so easy to spot ?
>>744539798Come on now, i haven't posted your asstrobot cope image
>>744539347KT was the reason 3H was such a success; they're not involved with FW at all.KT was also the reason Pokopia was such a success. Nintendo is getting mogged by any third-party they let develop for their IPs which is just embarassing.
@744539886what's this tendie schizoing about now
>>744539738I don't think you realise, some of us have money to play videogames, can afford a switch 2 or even a pc stronger than a 1060.
>>744539945I'm talking about the game of the year, of course! (snickers)
>>744539843>tendies expect us to believe that the crippled autist isn’t a tendie, but instead a snoy putting up an elaborate act going as far as buying tendie hardware and software Lmao man this embarrassment couldn’t have happened to a more deserving cult
>>744539957>goy proud to be cattleGood goy
>>744540067I don't think having disposable income makes me a goy, I think it does make you look like a jealous retard tho. Mayeb they'll pick up your loud house thing and you'll upgrade to a bigger, better cripple chair.
>>744540173>I have disposable income so I’m not cattleLmao you’re one of those useful goy that they parade around
>>744539957>>744532392
>>744540067shouldn't being goy cattle be poor to the point you have to put you in debt to buy shit? redpill me shitposter golem-san
>>744540314I can walk on my own 2 legs, cripply. I doN,t need people to push my chair
>tendies have to pretend that their greatest warrior is now not one of themLmao
>>744541479Snoytranny (forma cripple) pretending his retarded falseflag actually worked actually, and the people calling him out every single thread didn't exist.
>>744525249What recent games? Nintendo's whole business model is selling 30 year old games to children who don't know what an emulator is.
none of the great games of the past were made by people who were super into video games
>>744541738Love the current snoytranny dilemma. They were stupid enough to believe retardss like deen saying the switch had no game, yet nintendo is outselling the PS5 5:1. SO either they admit they were easily swindled cattle or they keep acting like fools.
>>744541720>tendie will really try to convince others that it was a snoy and not a tendie who bought the switch 2 and all the switch 2 games
Uh ooohhhh, SNOY MELTY
>>744541997Convince?Everyone saw through your shit instantly. Everyone was commentating when you got banned that paulinigger was dissappearing too. Come on nigger, you are a dumb cripple, people are simply, genetically better than you. Your brain is as mushy as your legs.
>>744542376>tendie schizobabble Zzzzzzzzz
>>744542454C'Mon, it's okay, you were born a cripple. There was nothing you could do. You should redicrect that anger against the people who made you believe you could pass as a normal human.
>>744539925We need KT to work on a Star Fox, Xenoblade or Kid Icarus if that’s the case.
>>744542703>more tendie schizobabble Zzzzzzzz
>>744525249I wouldn't peg this as the reason for poor game quality. It is like art schools, the ugly truth is that nobody who teaches art there actually knows what they are doing because the ones who did retired or quit. So even the people who don't dilate wind up learning fuck all about being a good artist.
>>744539957I spend my money on actual good games that deserve it
>>744534957>a bad SP mode for a WiiU game>9.3/10It would be funny if it wasn't so sad
>>744542809Cripply copeyFeels good knowing that you will never again infect the boards with your bullshit. Any trip you make will also be directly linked to you instantly.Such is the fate of the crippled snoytranny.
>>744543051Why did the posers latch on to this rhythm game specifically? In a world where they could be playing Synth Riders, Beat Saber or Pistol Whip in VRIs it the art style that attracts that undertale poser crowd or what
>>744539798>metacritic is a joke thats why its so funny that snoys spam metacrtiic and praise it, up until a nintendo game gets a higher score pic related: snoys bragging about horizon zero players getting a high score right before zelda raped it also to not the days of spam for astroflop's score before the game was even out, also the pathetic spamming of SMT5's photoshopped metacritic page in the laughably sad attempt to say the game was bad
>>744543336>more schizobabble Zzzzzzzz>>744543416To a tendie a game being exclusive is more important than a game being good
>>744543517You're just sides of the same retarded coin. How about all you consolefaggots just fuck off?
>>744543517Why are you guys so obsessed with Sony? The entire board shits on Sony and yet you've imagined Sony fans everywhere around you. The fuck would they be doing here, have you seen a positive thread about a single Sony game?
>>744543517>point out how every single switch 2 game is subpar using the same metrics tendies use, metacritic >tendies shit themselves in rage for pointing it out, conveniently forgetting them going >97>for years
>>744543574>post proof of snoys endlessly praising metacritic >he instantly seethes and pulls the "y-y-your both bad now LEAVE MY FRIEND SONY ALONE"lol
>>744532569Everything is doing this, just like modern movies and shows. Modern kids are all ADHD addled retards who do nothing but doomscroll tiktok and bounce between 5 minute Roblox games. All media is scrambling trying to pander to these dumbasses. In 20 years all entertainment will just flash random lights and blare random sounds every 5 seconds as children no longer have the attention span for anything more complex.
>>744543653I told you to fuck off, consolefaggot.
>>744525567>I think it started midway through the switch lifetimeYou mean after the Wii U ports ran out?
>>744539172This is her in game model
>>744543608>shits himself and cries trying to spam metacritic to "prove" nintendo games are bad>game gets a 9.3 >he goes ballistic and starts screaming the reviews don't matter, except for the pedo island news paper
>>744543675you first snoy
>>744543543>To a snoy a game being exclusive is more important than a game being goodFTFYthe dozens of examples of a game being defended by the cult then instantly turned on when it gets ported to nintendo proves this
>>744543869>defends latest $70 + $30 day one dlc pokeslop in your path
>>744544030>he can't actually post any proof so he just tries to lie and project reminder snoys defended trash like destruction all stars, tralalelo jumper, maraflop just because they aren't on switch
>>744544030>strawmans then seethe endlessly.
>>744525249SPOILER ALERT retar no one with a job plays video games that goes double for game devs who have to work overtime. Everyone just bases their visions off what they played as kids.
>>744525249This is a good thing. Fanboys only want homages and references to their youth, look at any Hollywood blockbusters recently. https://youtu.be/dg-qaeIcuyI?is=YQ750n0-tPBgbhJC
>>744543667Idiocracy really was predictive programming.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAg1r6zw7Bg
>>744544676Knowing nothing about your medium just makes you produce something based on second- and third-hand impressions of it you've picked up elsewhere. Ask a random normalfag to make a video game and they'll produce something flagrantly based on either a recently popular game or an old stereotype. The key isn't to ignore your medium, it's to engage in it enough to understand the "whys" and not just the "whats".
here's my official journalist BotW review:>0/10>open world games are badnow tendies have to kneel and admit that botw is bad because journalists say so.
>>744545224The key issue I find with game developers is that anyone good at it falls under two extremes: >tech literate and does the code grind; absolutely dogshit sense of taste in looks and appearances>bad at tech related tasks; good sense of aesthetics and even knows how to use artistic expression to elevate thingsWriting for either of them can be decent to hot garbage but they consistently fall within the first or second group.
>>744526494>2026>Nintendofags still have a hate boner for Fire EmblemIt's been years since Smash Ultimate you guys.
>>744525567Started with botw
>>744552324If tendies really had a hateboner for FE, "scrimblos" wouldn't be a word.
>>744525328>>744525475(you) do.
Good like Splatoon Raiders?
>Rhythm Heaven Groove and Splatoon Raiders both highly rated, Splatoon Raiders now one of the highest rated games from users of all timeoh yeah, decline huh
>>744543240>Goalpost movinglol
>>744525567the decline started late n64
>T-There's a decline guys I swear>sells another million consoles by the time you finish crying
why the fuck does it matter, he doesn't work on any games himself, people basically just ask him, "How does this sound?" and ask if they can use Mario and that's it
>>744525249Miyamoto is completely irrelevant. He is just the old man making his dumb movie slop now
>>744552656>switch 2 sells great>its games don’t for whatever reason
>>744552768>its games don’t for whatever reasonSounds like retarded cope on your part, surely you got some source ?
>>744552959>tendie ignored the quarterly report in favor of his gay little famitsu sermonsFigures
>>744525567Decline started with the Wii, nigger.
>>744527443ENDACOPIA MENTIONED
Nintendo won.https://youtu.be/npqPtHX4It0?si=jU7r9GU6VE9TkH16
>>744541479Its also a bad sign. Nintendo is so unpopular that all the threads now bombarded with stupid schizo talk and drama.
>>744552768The hardware only sells in Japan from what I remember.
>>744553498
>>744553732Japan is huge Nintendo fanboys. Like there are more Nintendo fans in Japan than Sega fans globally.
>>744525249If games are made by people who only play games, then they will all become derivative and stagnant, like AI when it starts learning from AI. Gamers can't make games because they produce AIslop.
>>744553050Please post the quarterly report, lets see those numbers
>>744553818Yup. Its also why conversation is so autistic, because the thing is just not popular anywhere else. It doesn't sell in America, doesn't sell in Europe. And this was before they even upped the price of the console. Honestly, software probably played a big part of it besides price. The Switch 2 lineup is mediocre, there are games that appeal to certain subsets. I hear Raiders is good, allegedly. And you see Nintendo fans brow beat their chests when the game is on the top of charts for like one week, like Star Fox 64 remake.I think this will only change when Wind and Waves drops. That might be the second most bought game on the system, could even dethrone World if they play it properly. I could even see it giving the system a big bump. Pokemon is always in high demand.
>>744538076Obsessed..
>>7445530932007 had at least soul, Decline started with the HB era (gamecube) autist.
People ITT are fucking stupid. The era of innovation in the 80s and 90s happened because people came to game development from different fields with life experience unrelated to vidya. Miyamoto wanted to be a cartoonist, Koizumi came to Nintendo fresh from film school, Kojima had a background in film, etc. For a recent example you even have Miyazaki coming from finance or something. Getting people with passion's outside vidya is important. A big issue with contemporary vidya, and other creative mediums like anime, is that the people creating now are largely only into vidya and little else. It's why gaming is pretty stagnant now, it's mostly all navel gazing now. A snake eating its tail.
>>744525249>>744525567NSMB2 was the decline.Fucking gold coin gimmick.
>>744555854This, AND, old devs relied or were system engineers making their own engines and coding, every studio had their own engine(s)Now you have graduates that have no passion, are not egineers and only know how to use unreal slop, etc, also way too much inner politics and guidelines
>>744554251Jesus, look at this snoytranny coping. How about you stop dilating and look outside
>>744554251Isn't the Switch 2 the best selling console in most of the planet? Japan, the US, Europe, South America... That's most of the video game market. I don't know how to describe that as anything other than popular basically everywhere.
Fartendo is so embarrasing, glad they lost the palworld lawsuit lol
>>744555854If real gamers were in charge of everything, shit would cost less money or data, have more physical content including sexier rather than being uglier movies, run smoothly and be organically challenging with rewards that don't need Jewish microtransactions. This is demonstrably a fact.
This is why all their games are turning into candy crush
>>744525249>the best game makers are gamersi am sick of this stupid ass blatantly wrong shit constantly being parroted. its not just not true, but its completely opposite to reality. exceptions aside (since i know people will bring it up), the vast majority of the time, NOT being a gamer actually helps. you need to be objective and study games and deconstruct them. being a gamer has absolutely very little to do with it. in fact, you would probably have a higher chance of having someone being a better game dev who has never played a single second of games before, but has strong analytical skills and a strong work ethic than someone who has played tens of thousands of hours and his a worthless piece of shit.
>>744555854i thought it was a proven fact that the people in charge of high profile games now arent gamers in the slightest, and just parasocial fags that want to be 'in on it' without actually participating in it.
>>744552324>All coming from a CorrinshitterOh the irony…
>>744525249FACT:every game you wont shut up about was made by people who werent "le epik gamers"ocarina of time? made by pencil pushersmgs? made by a wannabe directorpikmin? made by guy who thinks games are toys and prefers to gardenunless youre telling me your favorite games are from sakurai then you are absolutely full of shit.
>>744552427Anime Swordsmen was a valid remake that exclusively applied to Fire Emblem characters. They just tried to rub it off on other sword wielding characters.
>>744557716>made by guy who thinks games are toysHe's right tho
>>744557232And you faggots have happened to never show any evidence towards this once.
>>744557007If real gamers were in charge of everything games would never fucking come out and everything would be clones of whatever was popular....ohoh shit, gamers are in control.
>>744554251So funny how you can just sit here and write lies
>>744557769I know he's right, im not arguing it, just pointing it out.games are not art, that whole conversation was the most homosexual thing to happen to the millennial gamer.games as toys = all your favorite gamesgames as art = depression quest, quanticslop, endless homosexual browns.
>>744556334The most soulless sequel CASHGRAB ever
>>744558185I liked it a lot. it is like my hobby of picking up pennies and loose change from sidewalks and parking lots
>>744557716Iwata at least would keep them in check as he wasa super nerd programer that would make games and install them on his friends calculators on the 80's
>>744525567>Why make another completely new Zelda game and spend millions?? we can just selll the same old one and add nuts and bolts mechanics and people will buy it!and they did. nintendo won't change if customers are this stupid.
>macaco threadLmao kwabooty what a raped aids ridden lil niggy-638584 karma to ziony btw fraid so
>>744539925Nintendo outsorcing games is not a new thing, some of their most beloved games were like DKC or the first two Paper Mario were made by third parties.And even then Bananza is the highest rated Switch 2 exclusive so I dunno wtf are you on.
>>744557819if you want proof, look at all the "epic gamurr" millennials currently ruining gaming right now
>>744535697Previous Zeldas were fucking dogshit so that was a good idea.>MUH EIGHT LINEAR DUNGEONS REHASHED FOR SIX GAMES STRAIGHT NOOOOOOKill yourself you shit eating faggot.
>>744562839I rest my case.
>>744563112yeah its put to rest cuz your case got dismantled and buried, nigga
Some of the best games in history were made by people who knew fuckall about game design. Granted, it was during the time the industry was still fairly new, but you get the point. Anyway, is anyone surprised that a nearly 80 year old man isn't playing videogames anymore? Frankly I can't be mad about Shiggy just enjoying whatever time left he has on this earth watching his creations come to the big screen and theme parks, he must feel like it's a dream come true. And the further away he is being kept from meddling with a game development, the better it'd be.
>>744525249Well that explains basically everything about why modern Nintendo is soulless as fuck and just coasting off the brand created by their superior predecessors.
>>744563036>actually the legendary franchise was shit until they radically reworked it into a basic bitch open worldNo.
>>744525567Nintendo has been declining in quality for 25 years, but yes, there was a noticeable drop in quality midway through the switch when they ran out of the better wii u games to port. KI:U was the last truly good and respectable nintendo game, and nintendo didn't even make it.
>>744533197>We're you not alive during the wiiYes, I was 16 when Mario Galaxy came out and it was amazing
>>744532069Someone get this pity hothead bot outta here.
>>744525567I'm a hardcore fan but we can admit it was the middle of the Wii U life cycle that started it. >Star Fox>Mario Tennis>Amiibo Festival>FTP games on 3DS like Nintendo Badge Arcade and Pokemon Shuffle
meltdown status?
>>744531527If they posted this today you would make a basedjak out of it in 5 minutes. I would wager 90% of this board hasn’t actually played the original Doom or Quake, they just suck it off because they have been told they’re supposed to.
>>744564990like 10 three mile islands hes been spamming anti-nintendo threads for days looking for any cope that sticks
>>744531814>Iwata ran it to champion that without the family business head there anymore. Why are poeole trying to glorify iwata's era like he didn't almost run it into the dirt.
>>744566069Because Iwata was likeable and had a soul and the current head is a soulless unlikable bugman.
>>744557517I said people with interests outside of just vidya but are passionate about vidya. The people running vidya right now are only passionate about money.
