>gives a "Diversity is the Covenant's strength" speech>brute immediately chimps out and kills every Covenant around him>on a ship called the Triumph of Tolerance>which is then destroyed by a ship called the Burden of ProofWhat did they mean by this?
Is that fucking vitiligo?
>>744538936You would almost think the writers are self aware, but that shit is physically impossible.
>>744539083Holy shit lmao
>>744538936>on a ship called the Triumph of ToleranceLARPer-ass point, the Covenant has always had names like this, the ship you board in Halo CE was called the "Truth and Reconciliation"You're almost as bad as the retards claiming Halo Campaign Evolved is woke because the Covenant are pruple
>>744539083Prophets have always had fucked up dysgenic skin.
>>744539083Hierarchs are all inbred and on the verge of dying out.
Chuds really cant catch a break can they? First Odyssey makes billion now this.
>>744538936Prophets = JewsElites = White goysGrunts = IndiansJackals = AsiansBrutes = Niggers
>>744545546Grunts are latinx
>>744538936No one tell him about truth and reconciliation. Or Foehammer
>>744538936Now that you bring it up, it does sound intentional.Did you know brutes 80% of the friendly fire, despite being only 15% of the covenant?
>Grunts spamming /hijacked/ on the battlenet
>>744543153Okay I’ll biteTruth and Reconciliation =/= triumph of tolerance Religious zealotry does not equal gay and retarded leftoid ideology
>>744546501Oh you sweet summer childhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truth_and_Reconciliation_Commission_(South_Africa)
>>744545546The Flood = mudslimes, spics & commies
>>744547317Covies are mudslimes
>>744545546Grunts= SpicsDrones= Indians
>>744545598Grunts are 100% indian. They are cannon fodder that breed like roaches and die in mass in the most comedic ways possible
>>744541140They are not merely evil. Or stupid. It is thay they are evil AND stupid.So they take a formerly beloved work, shit it up on purpose for their propaganda purposes, but it always backfires because they end up shooting themselves in the foot thanks to their inane idiocies
>>744549253En masse*If you're going to use French loan words, at least use them correctly.
>>744538936Could any Halofags please explain why the alien looks like a car thief?
>>744539083Lighting.
>>744549559Their religion is based on Islam. They want to activate Halo and explode everything
>>744549606Nope, look at the upper lip and the area around his forehead jewel
>>744538936They always unintentionally out the suicidal nature of their kosherly programmed beliefs, like with the recent Tenpenny Towers fallout 3 discourse.
>>744549685nta but I thought they were misguided and didn't know the rings would blow up the universe, or the prophets kept it a secret and promised the elites 72 virgins
>>744538936someone explained this to me as it introducing the covenant to new fanswhy the fuck in gods name would you use the shitty book lore names like the kigyar in their introductions instead of, i don't know, calling them jackals and shit?i don't give two fucks if in the books that's what the humans called them, in halo 2 the covenant call them by their actual names because the script wasn't made by autists ouroborosing themselves
>>744549765The hierarchs knew the rings would genocide everything but were insane enough they still thought they would follow the forerunners to paradise that way. Obviously when the elites caught wind of this they said no fucking way
>>744549765At some point the highest prophets learn the truth, but by that point they are in too deep to back off. The prophet faction of the covenent that separated from their home planet was only a tiny fraction of their species, and their home planet was lost not long after the split. The survivors on high charity suffered genetic degradation over centuries combined with their pampered lifestyles, their species was a broken mess with no home to go back to.
>>744539083They are literally so disgusting and weak they need to float around on chairs. At the very least an ugly prophet is lore accurate.
>>744550929"Ask the oracle about Halo, how they would sacrifice us all for nothing". I remember that Regret in one his sermons during Delta Halo says that activating Halo would make a path to go into the divine beyond
>>744551025They can walk you see truth walk around in halo 3 and in the halo 2 intro the councilors and standing and shaking their fists and shit
>>744550760>someone explained this to me as it introducing the covenant to new fansWhy the fuck would they need to "introduce" the covenant to new fans anyway? No one needed the covenant to be introduced like shitty wrestlers back in the day to know who they were, so why the fuck was this needed now? It's just completely baffling and retarded.
>>744551178The covenant believes the forerunners ascended to godhood and that activating the rings is a way to do the same. When the prophets later discover humans and find out that they are the remnants of the forerunners they had to cover it up by trying to exterminate them, because if word got out that their religion is built on a lie that would completely shatter the covenant.As for why the prophets still want to activate the rings despite that, I'm not actually sure. I think they deluded themselves into thinking that the humans that remain were simply unworthy of ascending or something? Obviously the space jews are worthy of ascending to godhood so activating the rings is fine, who cares if everyone else dies so long as the prophets get to ascend right?
the covenant are the good guys
>>744551589Funny how Frank's fanfic retroactively made this true
>>744551589you might be on to something, it's a shame covies will never be as cool as they were in reach tho
>>744551523I think you're right since Mercy tells Chief that they're going to finish what they started and this time no human would be left behind. So maybe they wanted to exterminate humans before "ascending"?
>>744551509Designers believe modern audiences need everything spoonfed to them, or they'll get confused and overwhelmed.
>>744551797>So maybe they wanted to exterminate humans before "ascending"?Pretty sure he just meant activating the rings. Truth bumrushes the portal to the ark instead of trying to wipe out earth, because the rings would do that anyway once activated.
>>744551523Essentially they have no choice but to commit to their zealotry because their entire civilization depends on it. When first contact occurs Truth is fully cognizant that humans registered as forerunners but chose to wipe them out unlike every other race the covenant encountered because the covenant would collapse if the truth came out. He admits this to Johnson in halo 3 also. The great journey is the covenants entire purpose so they delude themselves out of desperation into believing they will find paradise because the alternative is accepting their civilizations defeat
>>744547317The Flood are LGBT
>>744538936>Triumph of Tolerancethese faggots just can't help themselves, can they? To insert the most thinly veiled political message wherever they can fit their grubby little paws. We had badass ship names like Truth and Reconciliation, Shadow of Intent, Long Night of Solace, etc., and in comes 343 naming their ship after what sounds like a gay pride parade. It checks every leftist stereotype that exists.
>>744552571No the flood are niggers. See: Ceuta, Spain.
>>744552760Please don’t look up where truth and reconciliation comes from lol don’t want your fragile mind damaged
>>744550760There is no reason good enough. The original didn't introduce them this way, and the remake shouldn't either. The original Xbox games came with little paperback guides in the box that told you all the enemy names and some story bits, but reading that was about as hard as googling it like the people playing the remake now can easily do.
>>744546501News flash retard but truth and reconciliation is not a religious phrase, it's a political one about recognizing oppressed minorities.
>>744552942>A truth commission, also known as a truth and reconciliation commission or truth and justice commission, is an official body tasked with discovering and revealing past wrongdoing by a government (or, depending on the circumstances, non-state actors also), in the hope of resolving conflict left over from the pastYeah, this is totally the same thing as something that sounds straight out of a gay pride slogan book, you faggot shill
>>744553137Nigger who just learned the phrase thinks the AI summary makes him an expert on what it means.
>>744553137> The TRC was set up in terms of the Promotion of National Unity and Reconciliation Act,[3] No. 34 of 1995, and was based in Cape Town. The hearings started in 1996. The mandate of the commission was to bear witness to, record, and in some cases grant amnesty to the perpetrators of crimes relating to human rights violations, as well as offering reparation and rehabilitation to the victims. A register of reconciliation was also established so that ordinary South Africans who wished to express regret for past failures could also express their remorse.It’s a white man bad nigger kangaroo court lad. Woke as shit
>>744553250it's called googling, you fucking retard. It's literally the first result that shows up on the screen
>>744545546Grunts are literally called the Ungoy
This is the part of the thread where 343 shills come in say "Halo was always pozzed faggot nigger shit just like my 343 games" while completely ignoring all of the original context and religious undertones that Bungie stuffed their games with
>>744549557Ok thank you
>>744553460>343 shillsThose still exist?
>>744553121>>744546723WAIT, THE COVVIES WERE ALWAYS WOKE!?!!????
>>744543153>the genocidal bad guys have always had "woke" ship namesDamn you sure owned the Chuds with this statement
>>744553460You mean all the religious stuff Bungie associated with the bad guys?
>>744553546We had Veilguard shills, Dead Space remake shills, Bluepoint shills and we got a guy using an anime pfp while pretending to be indian and going into every thread to advocate for india. Mental illness or stupidty on /v/ is too common
>>744553546Look in this thread >>744552942 >>744543153 >>744545620>>744553721Nevermind the fact that covenant names have always been named under a twinge of irony. The prophet of Truth's entire premise for the war is based on a lie that he covered up, and he speaks nothing about lies on the loudspeaker during the gravemind and high charity levels. The covenant having religious names that are hypocritical of their actions is the whole point of their naming scheme.
>>744553721Chief is the bad guy?
>>744553864>We had Veilguard shills, Dead Space remake shills, Bluepoint shillsI suspect 99% of them smelled like curry and feces.
>>744553349Attempt to not be a ai sloppa addled zoomtard. Truth and reconciliation was a famous South African niggerfest that existed to blame whites for all ills and justify taking white land and money. It was a litany of dindus crying about how colonizers bad niggers good yet here you are wetting your panties over how cool it is because ai ordered you to
>>744553964where the fuck is the AI in the screenshot, you blind retard
>>744552802That stretch...I've smell it before
>>744553956Bungie didn't name him John by the way. He was named Spartan-117. And the 117 is something that requires you to go down the Marathon rabbit hole and the whole 7ruth thing Bungie used to do.John was named by the EU writers they didn't want anything to do with but where shackled with because owned by MS.
>>744554119see >>744553460
>>744549557I refuse to use French correctlyexcuse me, let me rephrase thatI spurn to queath french rightly
>>744554084It’s literally the first thing in your results section. Zoomers can’t even realize when they are consooming ai lmao
>>744554119Right, and the good guys' angelic HALO rings and the ARK being used to combat the FLOOD aren't intentional biblical references either
>>744554403newsflash, the link being purple means that's the thing that I clicked, you disingenuous nigger
>>744554403Nigga that's a wiki link not an AI summaryUnless you mean to say that whole wiki page is just sloppa
>>744554413Nigger take it up with fucking Bungie in 2001. Halo rings aren't good things by the way. You might not have noticed that.
>>744545546Elites are Japanese
>>744551509>>744551853every single hunter encounter i've played so far has had someone say "hunters! shoot their unarmored parts to hurt them!"Every single fucking onenu-halo fans that are notoriously retarded because you need to have rock bottom tastes to enjoy the slop they shit out like to point out how halo 3 is apparently bad to 3 people on twitter so they always hated haloIf they released campaign evolved after halo 2 even with the anachronistic 2026 graphics they would have had the fucking bungie offices burnt down with joseph staten and marty o'donnell publicly executed standards didn't get higher, they got lower and you should be genuinely revolted that anyone would even lightly defend shit like this
>>744554559No. That one anime short where they tried to make elites out as samurai was even cringier than Chris Chan
>>744554559>Reach was Humanity's Pearl Harborhrmmm
>>744554517Halo rings are good though, at least their intended purpose. The forerunners had to do whatever it took to stop the flood and paid the ultimate price to accomplish it. Would the alternative have been better? Let the flood kill and consume all life anyway?
>>744554706They only needed to use halo because they were fucking retarded arrogant morons who refused to take the flood seriously until it was too late then got betrayed by mendicant. Humans literally beat the flood while also fighting the forerunners simultaneously
>>744554825>343 loreNigger the forerunners were humans themselves
>>744554646>Culture centered around a strict code of honor>Using swords even when they're considered outdated by use of firearms>Even their armor looks inspired by Japanese samuraiYou're retarded, and that's not my problem that you are.Halo is about how Japan are our closest allies.
>>744554825>Humans literally beat the flood while also fighting the forerunners simultaneouslyAnon, I enjoy Halo 4. But Halo 4 immediately retconned all of Bungies lore in the most egregious way possible.
>>744545440>can’t catch a breakThe odyssey is the only piece of media that the chuds hated that didn’t seem affected by it. Everything else has crashed and burned.
>>744554403>wikipedia is ai now
>>744554706The last 3 missions of the game were about destroying Halo because of the sheer fucking threat of it existing was.The Covenant and even the Flood got shifted down in terms of narrative threat for the ring itself.
>>744554902Sangheli subordinated themselves to another species in a multi species religious alliance. This is literally the opposite of Japanese culture, they are extremely xenophobic and homogeneous
>>744552942>>744553137>>744553257>LGBT groups and racial minorities are comparable topics of oppression, as my extensively brainwashed leftoid brain dictatesEvery single time.
>>744555217So did Japan during WW2, retard.
>>744555252Lolwut are you brain damaged?
>>744554902The Elites are Muslims. The Arbiter was literally called Dervish until they changed it late in development.
>>744555019The rings are undoubtedly dangerous, but that doesn't make them inherently bad. Their intended purpose was good, misusing them doesn't change that.Spark was trigger happy but knowing how dangerous the Flood is I understand why the nuclear option was immediately tried.
>>744538936The proof is that 13% of the covenant do 50% of the crime(brutes) Around brutes, ALWAYS shoot.
>>744554119Wrong.The halo instruction manual had his name.Stop larping you underaged cunt troon.
>>744555252>>744555339https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_East_Asia_Co-Prosperity_SphereYou could make an argument that Japan was trying to ADVERTISE a pan-Asian unity, but in practice, they were genocidal racial hegemonists, same as the Nazis
>>744538936He unironically kinda looks like a 90s rapper here
>>744545546Grunts are wetbacks.
>>744546723Damn, what truth did they bring? That blacks can’t feed themselves or survive without white people?
>>744555427>https://www.halopedia.org/images/2/2a/HCE_Xbox_Manual.pdfCtrl + F "John".Do it. I'll be waiting for your response.
>>744555448Japan never swore fealty to another nation or converted to Christianity and launched a crusade
Sex with Williams.
>>744538936>Prophet of truth lies>Prophet of mercy is a vindictive cunt>Prophet of regret has no regrets its the prophets whole schtick
>>744555673Pretty much. Halo was always woke
>>744555778>Japan never swore fealty to another nationlollmao
>>744555425"Damn your entire barbarous race"
>>744555963Who did they swear fealty to in ww2?
>>744556035The Covenant
Trumptards are saying Halo was le based and hardcore jesus pilled. I don't know what's funnier. 343 ruining the series cimpletely beyond repair or rednecks who never played these games trying to make it political now.
>>744555778>”Japan never swore fealty to another nation”
>>744556096Lol. Disingenuous cunt. Thanks for your concession
>>744552571this. the covenant literally calls them a parasite
>>744553546Unironically yeah. Watch literally any stream of this game, the chat is filled with literal bots defending the game
>>744556097I think it’s hilarious. I mean the characters who have the most dialogue in halo are a stronk woman ai who can don anything, a black yaas kween dropship pilot and a black male Danny glover type
>>744554119>the first halo book was released before CEactually crazy factoid
>>744556097I've sort of come to realize that since Halo doesn't really "say" anything it's incredibly easy to twist it to suit your political agenda.Intentionally so, there's an interview with Joe Staten from like 2004 where he says they don't really want to make any statements or commentary on religious organizations. And this was in the height of the war on terror, where the Covenant started to get more Islam aspects instead of being based on Catholics.
>>744556507Crimson skies also got a book. No one remembers that game
>>744556369>a stronk woman ai who can don anything, a black yaas kween dropship pilotWomen doing non-action womanly things and acting like women. Even the dudebro COD games had female pilots and hackers (of course, females can't actually program irl, but it's a Hollywood thing to give them something to do)>a black male Danny glover typeJohnson is clearly Carl Weathers in Predator.
I really dont understand how you can fuck up a series where some super soldier dude kills aliens. This is like fucking up Star Wars or superheroes.
>>744556369>>744556713Johnson is Sgt. Apone from Aliens. So much of Halo's aesthetic is taken from Aliens.
>>744556096oh shit
>>744556713>this woke shit is okay because cod does itThe absolute state
>>744556097Halo came out around the time of 9/11 you retarded zoomer faggot, most western shooter vidya around that time had analogues to muzzies as villains. That shit got downplayed and toned down as the series progressed and even tried to paint some of them as le misunderstood savages with the arbiter.
>>744556832It's an archetype, is my point. The scary tough black man CO is not "woke" by any stretch
>>744556849It's not woke, you fucking retard
>>744556802>This is like fucking up Star Wars or superheroesYeah, thank God that never happened
>>744556853Religious fanaticism and evil aliens are universal tropes. It would be like someone comparing Sauron to Hitler because both wanted to conquer the planet.
>>744556853Halo was developed before 9/11 dumbass. Arbiter was introduced in halo 2 the first game developed right after 9/11
>>744557035Oh God, now you're gonna get tons of Nazi retards swarming you
For any of you current halo players, can I queue into ONLY swat/tactical in infinite or should I just stick with MCC?
>>744556927Niggers and foids are the definition of woke
>>744556853Turning the Covenant into space muzzies with a le misunderstood savage trope was a downgrade though.
>>744557050Desert Storm also happened before 9/11 retarded faggot.
>>744556853Everyone specifically stated they weren't religious or political games. Most people who made them were liberal. Andypants is a retard.
>>744557101>Gone With the Wind is woke because foid>The Thing 1982 is woke because niggerTruth nuke: You're actually a faggot subversive leftist tourist who came here to deliberately poison the well by playing a caricature of what you think "chuds" act like
>>744557163What’s your point? There was no anti Muslim sentiment as a result of desert storm, desert storm was actually to aid a Muslim nation even
>>744555678!!!John Halo himself designed the video game!!!
>>744557275Yes they are. Women and niggers don’t belong in white male spaces. Kabuki is an example of the proper way to do this.
>>744557163>Desert StormYou mean that thing that had literally nothing to do with Islam?
>>744551523It's a bit unclear what exactly Truth's thought process was when they were trying to activate Halo. I think denial is the most likely case, maybe twinged with a bit of death cult behavior, as often happens when the absurdly, incomprehensibly corrupt are allowed to dictate a society. Regret and Mercy were pretty much just press ganged and along for the ride at that point, what they thought or believed basically doesn't matter. Though, Mercy spending his last couple curses to iterate human extermination as something that should be repeated, does at least suggest they don't have (or don't believe) every single piece of the puzzle. I suppose it's not that hard to believe a hardcore zealot to believe exactly the parts of their scripture that confirm what they want to believe, while losing interest and ignoring the part that explains why that isn't actually the case.
>>744556853Do you really think Halo 1 was made overnight in November 2001 and not in the late 90s?
>>744557341Agreed. Gone With the Wind is woke. Birth of a Nation and Triumph of the Will are also woke
>>744557269>Most people who made them were liberalthey would be considered right wing by modern libtards
>>744557050>Halo was developed before 9/11 dumbassOh god, it's Deus Ex all over again
>>744557275Many such cases of these retards coming around and doing this. It's kind of pathetic, but its best to not reply to them. (You)s are like crack to their retard brains.
>>744556802Halo has less depth than Star Wars so its even harder to fuck it up. With star wars, you have not-jet fighter combat segments which take up about 20 minutes of screentime.Lightsaber-fightsaber shit and the spacewizard powers.And the boots on the ground military shtick.There are games that cater to all of these scenes but to get star wars you need all three of these in one movie.In fucking Halo you just need not-robocop to kill aliens and never look like a weak faggot doing it.
>>744557341>kabukidoes he know?
>>744557275amerikek hours always brings out the trannies cause most of them are from jewSA
>>744557417And yet so many of them ran off from twitter and Staten himself did a white guys for Kamala Harris thing.Keep coping that Halo was always right wing I guess.
>>744553948ThisCovenant names for ships and larger projects are always flowery teasing of parody.A good parallel is shit in Starship Troopers, or Helldivers. Just instead of patriotism and jingoism, it's much more poetic and poncey. But fundamentally similar. Helldivers would call the prison world a Maximum Security CityThe Covenant would call the ship sent to bury evidence the Truth and Reconciliation, and their capital which is mostly built off of hundreds of years of manipulation and exploitation of client species being named High Charity.
>introduced out of nowhere>is a bitch to you immediately>continues to be a bitch to you>forces her team to commit suicide with her>expects a building to be named after herWhat were they hoping to accomplish with this character exactly?
>>744557762Women are AMAZING
>>744554413Right, and NGE was a profound application of Christian theology and not just because it sounded cool.
>>744557269I remember all those tongue in cheek Bungie weekly updates where they made fun of Marty being the boomer conservative in the office.Shit Jason Jones was some weird fucking hippie throughback that went off to China to smoke weed because he got bored during H2 dev.
God this remake is exposing so many fucking tourists.
>>744557762>aliens are trying to genocide our species but Im going to expend the mental energy to sow division with you and other people
>>744557417All of them have stakes in politics and hate Trump besides Marty, but I'm sure if old Bungie were still around Marty would have been fired
>>744557637>2001 liberal is the same as a 2025 libtardyou're retarded and underage
>>744557886I wonder if I can find that post that Marty did on bungie.net shilling for George Bush in 2004.
>>744557836Indeed. NGE is simply too deep for most people to understand the subtle genius of it all.
>>744557762>ODST and Spartans have a nasty history>has been stranded on an enemy ship while comrades die around her>eases up when she sees MC is more than an overhyped child soldier>she did not order her team to conduct a suicide mission>the building name was gallows humor as she was literally about to dieStop hating women, stop being critical of everything, if you think you can do better go do better.
>>744557912NTAThey were liberals who evolved with time and are still liberals today if not more ovcally agressive against conservatives, none of them switch sides or vice-versa. Not sure why you need to make this complicated.
>>744557912>nooo these people aren't the same they have completely different politics now because i say so!!!!!!Ahuh.
>>744555850Amazonian position or mating press with her?
Why do halo devs struggle with the brute rage mechanic? They keep changing how it works. Just make it the brute’s equivalent to having their ‘shields’ popped. In this new campaign you make them range to get them to attack their allies, which is really lame. I want them to cause me so I can blast them in the face with a shotgun.
>>744557407>glorifying niggers and foids is okay because leni reifenstahl was a womanYou are a subversive little kike aren’t you
>>744558058more like they became spineless cuckolds that caved to peer pressure and libtard purity spirals>>744558064even your saint obummer was openly against fags marrying
>>744558142>it's not woke because... it just isn't, okay??
>>744557869Andypants (e-celeb faggot) made a video saying all the devs were hardcore right wingers and Asmondgold reacted to it.Expect covvies = muslims now and Master Chief is Jesus posts from here on until further notice.
>>744558053>you should hate groups of people because of false assumptions you have about said group>you should immediately treat people you don’t know like shit until they do something to earn your respect (you don’t have to do the same for them)I mean, if that’s what you want :/
>>744558053>ODSTs and Spartans have a nasty history>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-OcutsxZlg
>>744557886Why would anyone like trump? Even outside of politics hes a fat elite with a narcissistic complex who hates anyone beneath him and advances the goals of parties and factions you dislike. He dodged a draft but also loves sending people to die for wars to advance those same goals. Thats like Disney villain level cowardice.
>>744558114Because making a ranged unit that becomes a melee unit when it is half dead is incredibly stupid, and hard to implement because it makes zero tactical sense. So either Brutes effectively die early, because they accomplish nothing after raging, or Brutes don't even matter until they start raging, because they magically become bullet proof because angy which is mitigated by just killing them one at a time. The opposite would make sense. They run up to beat the shit out of you, but then start shitting their pants and head back to fight at range. But that's not how the thematics of a berserk rage work. It DOES succeed at making Brutes look like the ultimate jobbers of the universe though, who need adult supervision to function as a society, and thus willingly suck cocks while being obviously duped, because their society collapses otherwise when a Brute engineer stubs his toe and breaks the machine that makes everyone not die.
>>744556585Pretty much. Observe.>humans are the chosen ones set to reclaim their birthright as descendants of the "gods">they are beset on all sides by every other species in the galaxy who seek to unjustly eliminate them and achieve salvation>said salvation is a complete misinterpretation of historical truth warped into an organized religion with a strict hierarchyThe halos were promised to us 10,000 years ago.
so what are we just gonna downplay the religious undertones in a series that’s literally called Halo you fags?
>>744558415I hate that Jew cocksucking faggot for the right reasons, most leftards keep bitching about bigotry.
>>744558536Most of them actually have more in common with him than the 'chuds' they hate so much
>>744558053>ODST and Spartans have a nasty historyThere's like one dude in one book who holds a grudge over Chief dabbing on his squad
>>744558415He's very charismatic. If you learned anything from the entirety of history, it's that being charismatic (and having a strong military) is usually the most important thing you can do
>>744558453So Christianity is based now? I thought it was a jewish psyop?
>>744558453delete thisdelete this right now
>>744558053>ODST and Spartans have a nasty historythis is like a footnote in one book that's barely mentioned again
>>744558720even said dude knew to only bitch about chief when they weren't in danger and acknowledged he was a good soldier that deserved his medals, they somehow created a character that was a bigger petty retard than the guy was made to be a petty retard that nearly doomed earth to an early flood invasion
>>744558453There are things about Halo© that not even /v/ understands
>>744558053>ODST and Spartans have a nasty history343 just looking for an excuse to shit on chief
You know what's funny, the Flood has more biblical theming under 343i than it even did with Bungie.Under Bungie it was just "idk that's a cool name for them" and that's it, their origins are never explained. With 343i that shit is straight up divine punishment.
>>744558424>Brutes don't even matter until they start raging, because they magically become bullet proof because angy which is mitigated by just killing them one at a time.This is how chieftains in H3 and ODST work and they’re fun to fightPlus you could always make the rage mechanic a dice roll. Not every brute rages but there’s a chance they might so you have to be on guard.
>>744558262Gotta love trying to correct some bullshit and get called a libtard and/or tourist. Like alright bro, I've been around with Bungie's games since the late 90's (I used to read marathon.bungie.org a lot on my fathers work computer lmao) I'm a tourist alright.
>>744558053>ODST and Spartans have a nasty historyThere was an ODST squad in Reach and I don't remember there being any hostility between them and Noble team.
>>744559602They had one comm call in Alexandria where they said>Welcome to the Bullfrogs, Spartan. Think you can keep up?that's how you write military banter
>>744558415Faggot liberal. Go suck Bidens cock nigger.
>>744559473You literally are. All of them, even Staten said they were liberal-leaning. Marty is the only outlier, granted, he's actually doing something by running to be represinative of Nevada's 3rd congressional district in by winning the primaries.
Brutes are fucking bullet sponges and Elites should NOT be speaking in english.
>>744559856WORT WORT WORT
>>744559782Trump is the same shit as always or even worse minus SOME pushback against tumblr retardation. He's just another lying shitty suit like the rest before.
>>744559602Because there never was any rivalry between the two. Same in Halo 2 and 3 when you have ODSTs with you.There was ONE guy in one book who held a personal grudge against Chief specifically, not all spartans. Lorefaggots blew that out of proportion and now "ODSTs HATE spartans!!1" is commonly parroted.
>>744559856>brutes a bullet spongesthey literally die to 4 needle rifle needles to the body. the standard needler also mogs them. they also only rage if you make them. they're pushovers in this game.
>>744558994>This is how chieftains in H3 and ODST work and they’re fun to fightThey're fucking bland outside of ChieftainsH2 had the right idea, just make the lower ranks more prone to stagger and not have the same hp as a captain on all difficulties (true stroy btw)
>>744560343It’s made extremely clear in fall of reach that there is serious rivalry between them, the odst even try to hurt the Spartans as much as possible in training exercises. Fall of reach came out even before any of the games fyi. It’s not blowing it out of proportion it’s foundational lore, it’s where the concept of an odst even comes from
>>744558053>ODST and Spartans have a nasty historyHere's your nasty history.
>>744560812>strangersfmHis reason for quitting making halo and destiny porn was so stupid
>>744554902>>Culture centered around a strict code of honor>glass defenceless planets from orbit and wear cloak armor
>>744560886>porn artists are psychoticBest to just take what you can get and ignore anything else.
>>744554902Very japanese armor
>>744560514yeah and as foundational lore the fall of reach had a bunch of nonsensical wacky scenes that have since fallen out of favour like spartan shields tanking rounds from a 50mm autocannon
>>744560951>>Culture centered around a strict code of honor>glass defenceless planets from orbit and wear cloak armor>commit horrific warcrimes against civilians and launch a surprise attack before declaration of war
everyone says the problem with halo is that it's too woke but the problem is it's too asexual and neoconservativeHalo 1 - 3 came out during a period of strife against the Bush era government and endless wars
>>744561040Also that they have only just now started to encounter Elites, in 2552 when the war has been going for 27 years so far.
>>744556035are you forreal nigga
>>744561235Yes, go ahead and answer instead of redditing out.
>>744554902>>744560951The elites honor system is a fusion between japanese and norse honor systems leaning more towards the latter. So using artillery and deceit to gain an advantage over your enemy is considered based.
>>744560951Also kneeling to senile weaklings who can barely walk lmao. Elites are cucks. They even let themselves get replaced by literal apes
>>744561342Nah they are retarded reptilian aliens who speak in reverse english, fuck your gay books
>>744561342qrd on norse honor?
>>744561493It's mostly based on aura farming and blood feuds. Oh, and this one time vikings stole stuff and felt bad cause that was a dick move, so they went back later and killed the people they stole from because theft is bad, murder is pretty neutral.
>>744539083Reverse vitiligo. He's 102% jiralhanae with a 2% margin of error
>>744561548Why are you letting american jew authors lie to you about different cultures
>>744561493Anyone who knows anything about Vikings knows they have no honor, literal murder rape machines. So they are far closer to sangheili than Japanese are
>>744561548Based fjordniggers
>>744561595I only let varg lie to me about different cultures, don't worry.
Why did 343 turn the brutes into a Marvel aliens where it's essentially just a human without a nose
>>744560812ODST's never recovered after the Fem-Spartans forced them to lick their pussies and futa nuts
>>744561595>da jooooooooooooooooosYawn
>>744561604based warcrime denier
>>744561657Ever seen Star Trek?
>>744561657Probably some jew shit like not wanting to render the old hairs on newer engines.
>>744561707Yeah their aliens are shit, i like Halo because the aliens are whacky creatures
>>744561493typical stuff like courage, being fair, loyalty to family, self control, when it comes to lying>lying to kin>lying out of cowardice>breaking oaths>slandercringe>lying to gain an advantage over your opponent>repaying lies with lies>white lies to protect your ownbased
>>744561604Everyone at that time were murderous rape machines to their enemies, but what about back home? I've heard about honor being an important part of scandi society back in the day but never looked into it
>>744553257Damn, that was a horrible idea. Why would they apologize to niggers for treating them like niggers? Look how poorly that turned out.
>>744561801That sounds pretty reasonable desu
>>744561379Sorry I know video games are propaganda humiliation rituals but I will continue to believe that I am actually fighting 8 foot tall power rangers and fat goofy alien midgets as a beefed up space marine
>>744561801Thats not norse thats literally everyone you faggot
>>744561902>he says, when his only frame of reference is Anglo-Saxon culture derived from Scandinavia
>>744553451>UNgoySo theyre NOT goys then (unless youre french)
>>744561669Japanese are also faggots, just in a different kind of faggot
>>744554825The fuck kind of schizobabble is this?
>>744561967Jews and muslims totally don't support lying to your enemies and only treating your own better, no wayIt's da vikings who only do that stuff
>>744562037Lorelet detected
>>744554974lmao no
>>744538936
>>744562071You're citing nuHalo "lore" that retcons the original trilogy
>>744562071There is no human civil war involved with the flood. No such thing as a mendicant.
>>744559958He wasn't his first term. But now he's a neocon faggot George "can't let Iraq get a nooclear bomb" Bush 2.0
>>744562213Someone didn’t read halo 3 terminals
>>744561707>old sci fi shit has aliens that are just humans with different skin colors or extra parts because they were low budget and/or special effects were limited at the time>new sci fi shit has aliens that are just humans with different skin colors or extra parts because talentless hacks are just aping designs from the past without knowing why those designs were like thatMany such cases.
>>744562280And other people or companies used to not be shit, but are now.
>>744560951>>744561156they really are Pure Nipponjin
>>744561453>meanwhile in the games>elites fucking win the war for us being the biggest contributor to the covenant’s defeat outside of chief himself>humanity is at the brink of extinction at the end and is essentially left with a bombed out reserve to live on>haha sorry for the genocide guys we’re gonna go kill all the space jews now, bye!>humanity left in ruins while the elites inherit an entire empire and access to superior technology
>>744562313More likeBefore: no budget or tech but creativity so do what we canNow: tech but no budget or creativity so we can't make multiple skeletons or animations that's too hard : (
>>744562305Frank being allowed to write what is essential an easter egg does not make his fanfic real. Humans are forerunners and Bungie hinted at that from the very beginning. Old Bungie devs have just outright said so too.
>>744561207I swear I remember seeing Elites in Halo Wars when I played it and that takes place in 2531
>>744562313Nah, it’s you who doesn’t understand character design. To have a character land they have to be anthropomorphized, so unless you want no compelling personality charisma etc just revulsion like say the xenomorph in alien they have to have human characteristics. Elites are easily the most successful of halos enemy’s and it’s because they are basically scaly humans with humanlike culture and motivations
>>744562487>noooooo it doesn’t count it doesn’t count it doesn’t count Cuckold
>>744538936you can tell campaign evolved was animated by a womanall of 343's weapon animations look so feminine
>>744562542We are talking about looks, not personality.343 made the brutes more human looking because they're low iq marvel faggots
>>744561604I was reading a book about the History of English by Albert Baugh, and he brings up how incredibly malleable the Vikings were. They were always moving around to new places and conquering random lands that it made their ideology super flexible and allowed them to integrate into local religions and social norms very easily. They invaded England and France and were able to adjust to the local customs extremely quickly (and take a bunch of wives for themselves) because of how easily they could adopt foreign principles.
>>744562610Frank's fanfic does not count more than the rest of the fucking series you utter retard. Spark straight up tells Chief that he is a forerunner. The original ending of Halo 2 was Arbiter discovering a forerunner sarcophagus with a human skeleton inside. Spark in CE is excited to learn about "our lost time" (human history), and humans are the only ones who can effortlessly use forerunner technology. While also being called fucking reclaimers because they're taking back their old technology.
>>744562713They made the brutes more human looking because they wanted to give them important characters like atriox that people found compelling. Considering atriox is one of the very few things that have worked in the 343 era that was a smart choice. And yes I know 343 didn’t make hw2
>>744562610hmmmm do I adhere to a trilogy’s worth of games and a shelf’s worth of extra universe books of Bungie screaming at us from the sidelines that humans are forerunner? or 1(one)(UNO) fucking terminal that is contradicted by the same game it debuted in and a botched arg ad campaign?>retarded lore fag: I chose the terminal!
>>744562845retard
>>744562761Viking was a profession or job of young men, not a people group. Do you mean the Danes or Saxons? Some other related group? You come across like a retard.
>>744561657Look at the fucking retard on the right. What's he gonna do, tell me how much I hurt his feelings? The one on the left doesn't have any.
>>744562845No one even knows who that literal who is, everyone was confused when he appeared in Infinite.Bungie never struggled to make memorable alien characters, everyone likes Arbiter, Truth and half-jaw, 343 marvelifying halo aliens is them just trying to ruin halo and chasing the phantom market they think exists
>>744562845>atriox>compelling HELLOOOOOO /hg/
>>744562815>you can’t cite nuhalo lore that retcons the original trilogy >well actually the lore in the original trilogy doesn’t count, only the first two games do as well as an ending that got cut and didn’t actually make it into the game Retard
>>744562313erm, well, actually, we've done some double blind test screening experiments and have found that the average person actually relates better to characters they perceive as more humanoid *pushes up glasses*
>>744562845Nobody gives a fuck about Atriox so much so they got him confused with the one from Infinite.
>>744562953Arbiter and truth are extremely anthropomorphic. The gravemind is the only character that isn’t a “marvel alien”
>>744562946>You come across like a retardyou may very well be correct
>>744562997You mean Escarhim (?) isn't Atriox?
Why are the shitskins and shills so angry about the humans being human in the human centric game? So what if they built the rings? Why does that anger your pathetic jeet mind?
>>744563018>arbiter is anthromorphicYou are too retarded for this conversation
>>744563108looks just like my mom
>>744562963Frank vagueposting in an easter egg is not lore that can outweigh the rest of the trilogy.I mentioned the cut ending (that was only cut because of time constraints) because it reinforces my point that Bungie has always considered humans and forerunners to be the same thing.
>>744563205Somalian?
>>744562956/hg/'s worship of the banished was born out of hate, when infinites script was leaked along with first gameplay trailers the banished were considered so ridiculous it looped back around to being funny. combine that with an annoying autist who worshipped master chief who progressively and hilariously got more and more BTFO as it became evident that chief got raped by a gorilla and you got a perfect shitstorm for a forced meme.admittedly /hg/'s memes were probably the only reason I got through shitfinites campaign, couldn’t help but smile like a retard whenever we got a close up shot of one of 343's monkes screaming>BROKENat the screen.
Halo suffers massively from never having a consistent vision for writing.>halo 1 was written as totally-not-marathon 4, the eu was it's own thing that bungie never took into consideration>halo was a massive success, halo 2 throws away 99% of the marathon connections and starts to take the eu into account>joe staten got into a fight and went on sabbatical so halo 3 was written by committee who weren't interested in consistency and just wanted to do whatever they wantedYes humans were forerunner (although there was disagreements internally about if it was a 1:1 thing or humans were descendants). But it's just another case of "oh all the problems started in Halo 3 again".
>>744563326Faggots like you need to be culled, bet you unironically make posts like>is this real?When you see ai slop of a cat dancing
>>744563108>two arms>two legs>two forward facing eyes on a head>walks and runs upright>speaks >uses swords and guns held in a hand >wears armorYes you fucking faggot
>>744543153Your post is absolutely superfluous and has nothing to do with the discussion.fucking bozo
I am going to fucking beat the shit out of you faggot culture warriors
>>744563326More like from two shitposters forcing a meme
>>744558053>ODST and Spartans have a nasty historyGuess you never played halo 2.
>>744563429>t. got broken, scattered, hunted, defeated by anons making fun of 343's dogshit writing
>>744563476I hate twitterfags so goddamn much bros
>>744563348I really wish they had taken an extra year to actually finish halo 2 campaign. The halo 3 campaign ended up being such a let down
>>744563442creature acting like a human>oh my fauci this is literally just like a lazily designed recolored human, no difference at allLike i said, you are too retarded for this conversation
>>744563543>broken, scattered, hunted, defeatedHow the fuck did they let this line get through
>>744562845You’re the equivalent of someone naming off a “totally important” character from the sequel trilogy.
>>744563578You are the one crying about 343 making aliens look like humans but then you literally glaze humanlike alien design. Gravemind, the xenomorph, the monsters in pitch dark, these are actual alien aliens but you are unable to comprehend this conversation
/pol/ should be nuked its taint has to be burned out
>>744563476I get to watch anon get media-gaped in real-time. What a year to be alive.
>>744563734>xenomorph>actual alienIt's literally a black human with an elongated skull, i guess if a human that is raised by wolves is not a human because he only speaks in growls?Fucking retard
>>744559850Zoomers won't believe this but being a outspoken republican in the 2000s wasn't a great look due to bush. Look how far standards have fallen
>>744563742/pol/ is more popular than kosher faggotry and you are crying.
>>744558415It's all theater for retards anon. There is no republicans or dems its just the oligarchs and everyone else. Unfortunately Americans are incredibly stupid
>>744546501>Religious zealotry does not equal gay and retarded leftoid ideologyit literally does
>>744538936every time halo tries to have lore its gay as fuckwhen they made 1 2 and 3 they just did what they thought was cool
>>7445616573 ruined their aesthetic first. And don’t get me started on reach. Then halo wars 2 made them cool again with atriox, but infinite took us back to dogshit faggy brutes. It’s baffling. They should be the easiest aliens to design since they’re just space orcs.
>>744562845People found the prawn from District 9 compelling and it's a fucking space shrimp. This is a retarded reason.
>>744563476Oh fuck off man I was hoping for a couple of laughs and then for the thread to get archived, now it's been up long enough for the x*tter ghouls to repost it
>>744545546I agree with this
>>744563889Apparently they're literally humans to that retard because they're not feral like xenomorphs which is literally just a guy in a suit
>>744563889People also like this literal fucking rock. Dude has to be baiting.
>>744563886Their initial concept was where they peaked honestly. They're fucking bear rhino men.Then they devolved into space apes/orcs over every game after 2.
>>744561657cause brutes are fucking stupid and they never figured out what to do with them
>>744563476Reminder this absolute tourist faggot thought 343i added Sentinels to the Library.He had to delete that post lmao.
>>744563886>3 ruined their aestheticFaggot alert, chieftains are the coolest brutes have looked, hw2 ruined them by flattening their face so they can be mocapped by a human actor
>>744563997>entire movie revolves around the idea of trying to humanize and extremely inhuman character designThis is my entire fucking point. They have to go to extreme lengths, scene after scene after scene to make you care a little about the rock and the message that you are supposed to suppress your instincts and realize inhuman alien is still pretty human like is the whole theme of the film. Even then they cop out and show lame shit like oh the rock aliens actually have high school just like us
>>744564032It’s literally just Chewbacca why defend this derivative bullshit holy shit
>>744563889>remembers the rumors of the District 9 dude wanting to do a Halo remakeAnd you just know if it happened Sharlto Copley would play Chief.
>>744550760>Wahhh spoonfeed me! I don't like lore! Just call them the names that humans gave to them!Retarded babbling faggot. Go play Fortnite. That might be more your speed.
>>744564229Because elites are literally Predator
>>744564231I always thought it was curious how most of his movies eventually come back to S.Africa being a shithole, and the Africans are the reason why....but "racism" is somehow the problem and not the solution. Shit, even District 9 had 2 variety of them, alien retard and regular "human" retard.
>>744564351And unsc are colonial marines. taking halo seriously is fucking stupid it’s baby first fps and it should be treated as such
>>744564231The elites would have looked like this.It's one of those things where it's for the best that it didn't happen honestly.
>>744563880The first book preceded CE's release date you fat illiterate NIGGER.
>>744564180No 3 brutes are ugly. So are 3 elites. The concept art for brutes in 3 looked cool and their armour matched their weapons, but then for some reason they just decided to make them all blue, and have their armour completely disintegrate when you shoot them, and they shaved them, and their armour in general just looks really flimsy and tacked on. Also the chieftain is a single brute variant and does not represent how all the brutes in 3 looked you fag.
>>744564435Mogs the halo tv show
>>744564435I genuinely can't tell what shape it's mouth is
>>7445644623 is way better than this mass effect garbage
>>744564358I can’t remember did they ever explain how the retard prawns built a starship and why they got retarded?
>>744564406>baby’s firstErm, actually that’s doom…
>>744564470Halo show is a crime against humanity
>>744564445aint nobody read no fucking BOOK
>>744564462Halo 3 is when they decided they didn't give a fuck and just pumped out mid. I still think of those legionnaire looking Brutes in the Halo 3 concept art.
>>744555678Where are the "letters"?The manual had in universe letters in the back.Why is that manual different to my manual?
>>744564559It's not important to the movies story, but I suspect the prawns actually had a caste system, and the deuteragonist was from that caste, as he's the only prawn in the movie that isn't a cat food eating moron who would sell out their fellow prawn for a 12 pack of cat food cans.
>>744564567Imagine arguing that health and armor packs are the same as recharging shields
>>744564509At least they have short faces again like Halo 2
>>744564509It’s really not
>>744564745>like Halo 2wtf
>>744564846Short vertically, anon
>>744564607I don't think anyone disagrees there. I'm so glad it is non-canonical because that shit is garbage. I don't think even the most ardent 343i fans would defend it. Though then again I don't even think 343i had much of a role in it.It baffles me why they didn't just make an animated series set within the canon. Like an anthology series just retelling various stories from the books or something. People would have appreciated it far more. Look at how well the first season of Arcane was recieved. Or how the Cyberpunk anime was recieved. It CAN be done. Paramount is just fucking shitty.
>>744564676Yeah one lets you recharge your health instantly and while the rechargeable shields actually require you to put in the effort to not take damage
>>744564435Classic Hollywood always changing simple designs for “artistic vision.”
>>744564745>short faces again like Halo 2There are fags here who only played the anniversaries apparently
>>744564780Looks...fine?Whats the problem
>>744556683Microsoft put it on PC a week ago.
>>744564940>>744564435What did Staten mean by this?>Entertainment Weekly quoted H2 lead writer Joe Staton, "You could look at [the story] as a damning condemnation of the Bush administration's adventure in the Middle East" (Keighley, 2004). After this story was discussed on the ultra-conservative blog Free Republic, Staton posted a clarification:>Let me be really clear about this: there is no intentional political message in Halo2, anti-Bush or otherwise. While I tried to be mindful of folks' sensitivities as I wrote its story, I knew that the game was going to scrutinized by a large, diverse audience, and would, therefore, be interpreted (or mis-interpreted, as the case may be) any number of different ways. The EW journalist chose to include one of my examples of possible misinterpretation in the article, but not all of them. Most importantly, the journalist left out my closing statement: "Look, you can read anything into the story that you like - call a damning condemnation of the Bush Admnistration's [sic] adventure in the Middle-East, for example. But you'd be wrong." …Halo2's story is non-partisan. Any meaning you ascribe to it is yours alone. And remember, at the end of the day, whatever some journalist says I said really doesn't matter. The proof is in the pudding. Play the game, and I think you'll see it's just that: a fun game with a good story. https://gamestudies.org/1401/articles/gvoorhees
>>744564903Because the SAG would've probably thrown a fit about having their paying members NOT spread their genius onto the project. A lot of modern media have like a full on squad sized element of dipshit writers that there's no way having that many cooks in the kitchen isn't causing problems.
>>744538936Why did the Brute even chimp out? Why did he need some kind of controller when Brutes blindly follow the prophets no matter what?
>>744564903What's funny is there is a nonsensical show reference in the remake.This isn't a thing on the 3d asset for the show either. Someone went out of their way to do this.
>>744565092Stop asking about 343's writing. Just consume product.
Back in 2005 and 2006 the biggest anticipation was the Halo 2 Soundtrack CD.>The most common question I get asked is, "Where is the Halo Soundtrack Vol. 2?" Well, I just went over to the very fount of aural pleasuring, Mr. Marty O'Donnell who looked me straight in the eye and with a glint of wry, grandfatherly wisdom said, "The soundtrack is done, and mastered and ready to be shipped off to the factories. It is not being held up by me, Nile Rodgers, or by any of the artists signed by Nile Rodgers, contrary to internet rumors." With a twirl of his cape and a tip of his top hat, he rapped his cane and bid me good day!>Pete Parsons and Joe Staten are, as I write this, in New Zealand, at WETA, with Peter Freakin' Jackson, where they're brainstorming the Halo movie, and more importantly, walking around in a starry-eyed haze, marveling at Orc costumes, Centaur swords and giant gorillas. Every ten minutes or so, uberfanboy Pete will instant message me with some new bulletin, like, "OMG I just saw Andúril, the Flame of the West!" Or, "Oh wow! I stole some soft leather green point-toed boots. I am Elvenshod! See how I prance, as light and airy as an Elf in his aerie." Yep, that is just how Pete rolls. >Sound tools are a big deal this time around, since there's no dedicated audio processor in the Xbox 360, so there's a lot more "book keeping" for our audio wizards. This time around they have to keep better track of what goes where and when - on Xbox they could rely on the hard drive for sloppy stuff, but this time around everything has got to be buttoned up real tight.Bungie loved Dead or Alive and Japanese gameshttps://halo.bungie.org/bwu/index.html?item=42https://halo.bungie.org/bwu/index.html?item=51Frankie jokes about ritalin kids and DBZ. Somehow this guy got to be in charge of the Halo franchise?https://halo.bungie.org/bwu/index.html?item=38
>>744565135So the "evolved" part of this remake is taking retarded lore from a dumbass show made by people who openly said they didn't know anything about Halo and wanted to make something else entirely is possibly canon to 343 Studios Halo games? Damn, that's....quite a decision.
>>744564980I reiterate, short vertically.
>>744565079I don't like what I just read.
>>744562497Bungie famously took the George Lucas approach to (the majority) of the books. In that if they liked something they might include it in the game, and even then it was like pulling teeth. The one exception is Contact Harvest, which was written by Joseph Staten, who directed the cutscenes during Bungie's era and wrote the scripts for them and missions.>During the writing of Halo: The Fall of Reach, Bungie almost cancelled the novel but was convinced by Trautmann to approve it in exchange for himself, Matt Soell and Brannon Boren writing an estimated "80 percent" of the in-game dialogue of Halo: Combat Evolved. The dysfunctional relationship between Bungie and the Microsoft team working on the game created some disconnect - the notorious "this cave is not a natural formation" line was caused by Bungie promising that the environment would not be immediately obvious as an artificial formation. During development of Halo 2, Trautmann and Boren argued for the inclusion of ODSTs in the game, although Bungie questioned their recognizability to fans and the in-universe role they served. 343 aka Halo Studios (though arguably they are 343 almost in name only since most of the 'leaders' at 343 have since left) famously treat the books as gospel. Some people even say the books are telling the more interesting parts of the story vs like Halo 4, 5, and Infinite
>>744538936>Purple hoop earrings
>>744565431>343 aka Halo Studios (though arguably they are 343 almost in name only since most of the 'leaders' at 343 have since left) famously treat the books as gospel. Some people even say the books are telling the more interesting parts of the story vs like Halo 4, 5, and InfiniteThe problem is that they treat THEIR 343 books as gospel. They don't give a shit about Nylund's work because Kilo-Five shits all over it.
>>744565292You're blind
>>744565431Well that's because Halo 4s story doesn't make a lot of sense without having read a fucking book to get the critical context for what's going on. Which I would call a damning indictment of any film or games story if I need to read something unrelated to have full context to what's going on. I didn't care for it with Prometheus, and I don't like it for games.
why didn't master chief kill the prophet while he was giving the big monologue?
>>744551509its not rocket science. they made new levels. They tried for a creative angle "what can we show that hasnt been shown? I know how about chief being introduced to the covenant army types"thats it. thats literally all it is.
>>744559782Speak English.
>>744565595Ironically it would've been information any Spartan would've learned from combat footage and ONI files used for training about the Covenant long before they ever saw one in person, so it's still comically retarded.
>>744565516>sandy petersonCan't trust anything that nigga says. There's massively contradicting stories about what Halo Wars development was actually like so we'll never know for sure.
>>744565431>>744565536From Eric Nylund himselfhttp://halo.bungie.org/bwu/index.html?item=91>The Master Chief was a complete mystery. In fact, many people (names omitted here, so I'm not assassinated) wanted the Master Chief to remain a blank, faceless solider. Terminator-ish as it were. They weren't convinced any writer could portray him as tough as he is in the game and make him, for lack of a better word, "human," too.>One complaint I hear a lot is that the novels aren't canon and do not mesh with the game. From the very beginning the novels were designed to be optional, but official, material. Bungie didn't want people to have to read the novels to follow the game. That would be silly. The novels are designed to be an official companion pieces, and if you read them you experience a richer back story and understanding of the Halo universe. This strategy, however, necessitated that references to the extra material be minimized in game so as to not confuse people who hadn't read the books.>People got the impression that the Master Chief was the only Spartan (in the Halo:CE game manual it said he was the "the last known Spartan" or words to that effect), but people wanted more of a good thing.Writing the Fall of Reach was actually really rough for Nylund. He had around 7 weeks to write out the entire book for a deadline of two weeks before the game released - by then the story of the game was probably sealed and it was just last touches being made - and halfway through writing the book Microsoft executives wanted to cut it since they wanted Chief to be everybody's self-insert. (Thank god for Eric Trautmann otherwise the Halo EU wouldn't exist.)
>>744565092The prophet was torturing and starving the brutes on that ship. They were genetic experiments.>>744565135That's very odd. Is the UNSC Gladius a ship in the show's canon?>>744565268It isn't canon at all. It was confirmed officially but also, the show is completely retarded. I have not seen the show in full but it is contradictory in hundreds of ways. It could never be canon without baaically ripping ALL of the prior lore up.>Captain Keyes and Miranda are black>Sgt Johnson doesn't even exist>Kelly, Linda, Fred and Blue team don't exist, but "Silver Team" exists>Master Chief is always taking his helmet off>one character is a human girl the covenant abducted and raised for some reason>Master Chief has sex with this covenant raised human girl and Cortana watches>Chief chimps out at Dr Halsey and tries to kill her>Chief dies at one point and Cortana uses his suit to kill Covenant bad guys>Arbiter and Atriox both appear but I don't think they do much>one of the main plotlines is that UNSC bad and human insurrectionists good>a Chevy Tahoe makes a cameo>Chief is super emotional and is always disobeying orders>Capital of Reach, where a lot of the plot goes down, is called "Reach City" and not New AlexandriaBasically they got almost nothing right. From the clips I have seen there are maybe a couple of decent action scenes and the visual depictions of the Covenant and the Spartan armor are ok. That's literally it. Everything else is complete trash. They spent multi-millions to make this, by the way.
>>744565516Good morning Sandy.
>>744565734>From the very beginning the novels were designed to be optional, but official, material. Bungie didn't want people to have to read the novels to follow the game. That would be silly. The novels are designed to be an official companion pieces, and if you read them you experience a richer back story and understanding of the Halo universeFrank O'Connor and Brian Reed had the opposite approach. They wanted people to have to read the novels and comics to follow Halo 4 and The Reclaimer Saga.>Greg Bear: Cryptum, the first Halo novel, and so anyone who’s a Halo fan is going to enjoy the collaboration between the people in [Microsoft’s] 343 [division]—Frank O’Connor and Kevin Grace>Frankie: I was always doing little tiny incremental things with development throughout, but where I really started working on things going directly into the game was Halo 3, when I worked with (engineer) Damian Isla on the terminals that explained the deeper lore. So I was doing more and more story as we got towards the end of it, and as we started Reach, I got the chance to actually write the script.>Frankie: Most of the books for the last two years have dealt with building backstory for Halo 4, rather than fixing canonical errors or mismatches. We've bought ourselves a little bit of latitude with the terminals in previous Halo games. We knew that the fiction was going to evolve when we were writing the terminals for Halo 3.>“Every novel that you’ve read in the last couple of years, every comic book, the Terminals in Halo Anniversary […] everything is feeding directly into the story for the next Halo trilogy.” [Frank O’Connor, Halo Fest 2011 – Halo 4 Panel (2:50)]The problem was not >the books, it was Frankie.
>>744565761>That's very odd. Is the UNSC Gladius a ship in the show's canon?Yep. It's the main frigate or something that is featured in S1.The name does not exist in any way in the "canon" universe.
>>744565853I think Brian Reed was the bigger problem. That dude fucking SUCKED at writing and it showed. He used to make Marvel comics and he wrote both Spartan Ops and part of Halo Escalation where Master Chief has to kill the Didact a second time, which was very stupid and nobody even cared about it. He also wrote Halo 5 and I think that was too much even for 343i, so he got fired during Infinite's development.
>>744565516>The problem is that they treat THEIR 343 books as gospel. They do treat some of the lore from the Bungie books as gospel but yeah it does heavily skew towards their books.>They don't give a shit about Nylund's work because Kilo-Five shits all over it.That's not necessarily 343 though, that's just Karen Traviss. Basically everything she touches she corrupts or ruins. She did it with Star wars and then ragequit after the cartoon George Lucas made retconned her Mandalorian lore, and called Star Wars Fans who like the Jedi 'nazis'. Then she went and did the same 'special unique squad' shit in Halo. The only thing she's managed to not ruin was the Gears of War franchise, her books there were semi-decent and Gears of War 3, which she wrote, turned out great. I don't know if she was just being tard-wrangled there or what.
Halo Writers>Fall of ReachEric Nylund (Brannon Boren created the character Dr. Halsey. Eric Trautmann created the Spartan I and II detail)>Halo CEJoe Staten>First StrikeEric Nylund>Halo 2Joe Staten>Halo 3Robert McLeesLuke SmithFrank O'Connor (Halo 3 Terminals that were used as a base for Halo 4)>Halo WarsGraeme Devine (Joe Staten and Marty O'Donnell supervised etc)Eric Nylund (Halo Wars: Genesis - Comic)>ODSTJoe Staten>ReachLee R Wilson, Marcus Lehto, Peter O'Brien (Campaign)Eric Nylund (Dr. Halsey's personal journal)343>Halo 4 Transition BooksForerunner Saga (Greg Bear)Kilo-Five (Karen Traviss)>Halo 4Armando TroisiChristopher SchlerfJosh Holmes (Cortana's rampancy was inspired by Josh Holmes' experience with his mothers dementia and incorporated by Chris Schlerf)>Halo 4 Spartan Ops and Halo Escalation (Jul 'Mdama, Janus Key, Fireteam Majestic, Sarah Palmer)Brian Reed and Frank O'Connor>Halo 5Brian Reed and Frank O'Connor>Halo InfinitePaul Crocker>Campaign Evolved Operation: MeteoriteTroy Denning
>>744566040I don't know what the fuck that dudes problem was.>didact was clearly not dead in the end of h4>"killed" off in the post-h4 comic>the key thing that was a big plot point of spartan ops>got taken away in the same comic>jul mdama elite antagonist guy set up a bit in spartan ops too>dies in the opening mission of 5If all that didn't happen we'd have only been in "yeah the story is kinda just bad in the 343i trilogy" instead of the story being utterly schizo and each game detached from each other.
>>744565135HAHAHAHAHAthey literally reused the asset from the fucking tv show and neglected to change anythinghttps://www.rsvfx.com/projects/halo-s2 (watch the reel, time 3:19)
>>744566340sasuga 343…
>>744566340If you want to see another "what the fuck how did this slip by" here's this.The ring is an utterly different asset in the maw end cutscene for some reason.
As a casual Halo enjoyer, I feel for you, Halobros. It's one thing to watch your favorite series die, but it's another thing entirely to watch your favorite series be murdered then watch as the corpse is continuously desecrated, AND retards with pronouns in their bio celebrate and encourage further desecration.t. System Shockchad.
>>744551523>As for why the prophets still want to activate the rings despite that, I'm not actually sureUnfortunately I think part of the problem here is Truth's character got completely bungled in Halo 3.You can listen to a Covenant radio transmission on the Ark where Truth tells his troops that he brought them here to be "safe from Halo's fire", openly acknowledging that the Halos will kill everyone.But everywhere else in H3 he is acting like a religious zealot. Also he sent Tartarus to activate the ring in H2, so I guess he counted on Tartarus failing?
Why was Halo 3 so badly written compared to Halo 2? Redpill me Halo lore bros
>>744566695Joe was busy writing a book or some shit
>>744566676from what I recalled from the original script for H2s ending, Truth revealed that he wanted to completely wipe the slate clean where it was just him and his most loyal followers who wouldn't question why the halos firing didn't ascend them
>>744566695More to it, but they were also extending the missing backhalf of H2 into a full game.And also still somehow ran low on time to finish some missions - if you ever wondered why Floodgate was so short a level, it is because its 2nd half, which would have been a long trip through the crashed Flood infested carrier, was repurposed into being High Charity for the entire level of Cortana.Which is why Cortana does not feel much like being in High Charity - and they originally had unfulfilled plans for that level like going through the Mausoleum of the Arbiter and having to fight through Flood resurrected Arbiters, and then fight Gravemind using a Scarab's laser cannon.
>>744566676>Also he sent Tartarus to activate the ring in H2, so I guess he counted on Tartarus failing?Nah this is when things start to get messy with earthark being cut from H2. And slipspace was basically teleportation in H2, that shit taking a lot of time was basically never in the games until Reach of all things.Sent Tartarus to activate Halo, Truth teleports to the Ark which was on Earth to shield himself and his most loyal followers from the firing.
>>744566695Writers started shitting the bed. A slow fall into 343 halo
>>744538936Calling your ship the "Burden of Proof" is peak Reddit.
>>744566695Bungie had basically no idea of where they wanted to go, so they took the scrapped ending for Halo 2, removed some aspects of it, and cobbled together a story that only gets a pass because they just methodically went plot point to plot point with big epic reveals and sequences.I still mourn the Halo 2 we never got
>>744566976Game suffers from a lack of Guardian Forest too. The campaign is really short and the massively bigger Covenant fleet just kind of dies offscreen because "dude Elites are badass they can 10v1 Brutes!!!", instead of getting shredded to shit by these enormous Strato Sentinels that you'd activate and unleash at the end.
>>744566695cause halo 3 is missing a monumentally essential piece of story that got cut that explains everything, and that’s the forerunner data vault. I truly cannot understand why this got cut outside of time constraints. it’s the final piece of halo 2's original ending and since halo 3 is just halo 2's final act it makes it all the more excruciating that this was cut.>forerunner data vault contains all of the forerunners accumulated knowledge and a genetic template to recreate a life form(human) and restart civilization>for some unknown story reason it never activated leaving humans as they are today>truth learns about this at some point>despite popular belief truth did have some religious belief in the great journey despite being told what the rings do by guilty spark>upon learning what the data vault does especially with the genetic template he makes the most jewish plan possible>he believes the great journey means only the strongest become gods>therefore the strongest=last one standing>intentionally let his prophet rivals get killed off>let the retard brutes take over>start a civil war>reach the ark>activate the rings killing everything>put himself into the template>start a pilgrimage back into the empty galaxy with a newly revived prophet race and what’s left of the covenant with him and rule as god with all forerunner knowledge at his disposalit suddenly explains all his schizo behaviour in halo 3 because he was this close to succeeding and becoming "god" by using the entire galaxy as sacrificial lambs before getting cucked
>>744566561The bleakest reality is that its happening to everything around us. Soon all forms of media will be so awful newer generations wont even bother to try and fix it.
>>744538936They think they’re xerxes but they’re just a common pimp
>>744538936Would've been a funny joke if the writers intended it, honestly. But look at the rest of the slop the game is filled with, it's just their OC clashing with old canon.
>>744567207 This is pretty much what happens you dramatic, retarded, faggot.
>>744565485Wasn't the context for this when Ricky Gervais called everyone in the room pedophiles?
>>744567020>>744567207The potential Halo 3 that followed up to this ending has been a fun thought experiment. Since the storyboards end with the Arbiter talking about the fires of civil war still raging, and the threat of the Flood was just never dealt with.So I feel like it would have been Arbiter missions dealing with ending the civil war, Master Chief dealing with rescuing Cortana/the Flood before it all culminating in destroying the Gravemind.
>>744543153You're conflating two different branches of puritanism. Wokery is the evolution of protestantism, so the present day rendition of the death cult that seems to be ever present in the west.
>>744567386From what the files talked about he was underselling it. And everyone there knew it.
>>744567358yeah except for explaining WHY he was doing it fag. leaving fans mystified as to why the sneaky calculating politician of halo 2 was suddenly making a zealous seemingly retarded suicide run. one extra mission was all that was needed to get this point across.
>>744567613No it's pretty fuckin obvious you fucking retard.
>>744558989under bungie there is the flood.... and the ark.... you are a fucking retarded person.
>>744553864>We had Veilguard shills, Dead Space remake shills, Bluepoint shillsThese are mostly discord trannies that do it for free not shills.
>>744567663people were pissed that truths current canon plan was just to activate the rings out of spite and hope that the brutes wouldn’t immediately eat him afterwards. would’ve been far better received if we knew truth wanted to become what was essentially space jesus and uplift what was left of the covenant with forerunner knowledge, this isn’t canon because it was cut you nigger.
I think the writers are really bad at coming up for new faction and new villains with motives that do not directly involve the covenant. like look at the covenants explanation in halo 4. basically nonexistant you have to go looking for it.Then in infinite 'theyre like mercenaries isolated from the rest of them' and their forerunner enemies were just horrible. Do not expand on the forerunner stuff. Have humanity face another existential threat after trying to rebuild civilization. Have a human civil war where all the ONI shit blows up in their face. Show elites/humans trying or failing to coexist. Have spartans make their own militia factionn or something. Its like with disney star wars refusing to drop storm troopers and the same handful of siths and the skywalker family. When the best expanded material actually made new villains and heroes. And Halo Reach proved you CAN do it without chief they just have to be tacticool and serious feeling without relying on book knowledge. But 343 thinks since locke was rejected the issue is not using chief himself.
>>744567207Given the fact that Halo 2 & 3 are on PC and that modding for games is going crazier than ever since machine learning tools let you disassemble game code easier than before I'm wondering why nobody's started a project to restore a lot of the plans for Halo 2/3.
>>744567853You mad retard? Halo sucks ass anyways, it's all fake and I'm glad you're buttmad about your fake shit.
>>744568128schizo moment
>>744546501Without the Brutes the Covenant will not survive.
>>744567114These niggas are big as fuck.
>>744568035all of that sounds gay.Halo's story ended with 3. It was the perfect ending where humanity averted certain extinction, all loose ends were tied up, and Chief and Cortana had a fitting and bittersweet ending. You can't have another conflict in that universe anywhere close to being as epic as trying to prevent a bunch of genocidal aliens from activating an ancient ringworld that will wipe out all sentient life on the galaxy in a bout of misplaced religious fervor, all while a near omnipotent parasitic lifeform threatens to assimilate all life in the galaxy anyway.
>>744561298not my job to do what k-12 already should've
>>744557275>>The Thing 1982 is woke because nigger
>>744554974Serious copium
>>744568749He was taught wrong, as a joke.
>>744568035Locke was retarded because they woke chief from his peaceful slumber to then immediately replace him. Also yeah 4 would have been the time to rip the bandaid and do something completely crazy.
There's actually only 1 Earth level>Level 1Cairo station>Level 2Covenant Ship (CUT)>Level 3New Mombasa>Level 4Gas GiantAlpha Moon (CUT)>Level 5Delta Halo / Regret>Level 6 Quarantine Zone (Most of it was CUT)>Level 7Forerunner Tank (CUT)>Level 8High Charity>Level 9Delta Halo Control Room (Halo 2 Retail Ending)>Level 10 Earth Ark (CUT)Roughly 20% of the geometry developed for alphamoon was later reused in the final game in the end zone of Sacred Icon and the later Quarantine ZoneEarth Ark was fully blocked out and in some way implemented in-game. The level was to involve a fight with two Scarabs - something later seen in storyboards for later revisions of The Great Journey before ultimately being realised in Halo 3's The Covenant mission>Marty: It's like you strapped a bomb to stencil shadows and used it to kill the last level in the game>Joe: You know, even at the end of Halo 2, we never planned for the Master Chief to make good on his promise to Cortana to come back and get herJoe Staten confirmed that the retail Halo 2 epilogue cutscene, depicting the Flood overtaking High Charity and Cortana being trapped with the Gravemind, was always intended in the original script.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBi_xx26ClMHalo 3's Sierra 117 only exists because Marcus Lehto wanted to make a jungle level
>Alpha Moon (CUT)Joseph Staten: Well, the Heretic leader would be a Hunter. And most of the Heretics that you fought in the next level were all Hunters. And don't forget that early on in Halo 2 days, where you went to go attack the Heretics was actually the moon near the first Halo ring, the old infamous Alpha Moon environment. And that Alpha Moon environment, which became Gas Giant—where they killed the Heretic leader—or a gas mine... I think some of that geometry actually got used again—I mean, completely tweaked—but for the Sentinel Wall level, right?Joseph Staten: Same sort of design. But yeah, originally in Halo 2, you were supposed to go as the Arbiter to the moon that you saw in the first Halo game, and that's where the Heretics' head hold up, and they were going to be Hunters. God damn, that sounds cool.Joseph Staten: As much as I think we all have mixed feelings about the Arbiter decision...Joseph Staten: ...and we absolutely didn't execute on it in the way that we really wanted to. But Halo 2, because we made this choice, I mean, all of a sudden, just blew the doors open on the Covenant in this interesting way that now, in Halo 3, I think we can go back to the Master Chief, that singular perspective. And we just, as people making the game, know so much more about that other side of the story. We can create something that's richer. And I think people who played Halo 2, you know, it's kind of this—we took the knock, we made the investment, and then I think we're a lot better off for it.Joseph Staten: But I remember the conversation, I think I had it with you and Jaime, where I said, "Hunter Heretics!" And you and Jaime looked at me and thought, for some reason, that a whole level populated by Hunters wouldn't be very much fun. I don't know why.
>>744549765Depends on the game.In 2 as originally written the Hierarchs (maybe all the Prophets) knew the entire religion was all a sham they used to control the other races, they wanted to wipe out humanity because if the other races learned that Humanity was the Forerunners it would expose the entire lie. Activating the Halo Rings for them is just a way to kill everyone else so they will have the galaxy to themselves.In 3 this is retconned. Now the Hierarchs fully believe their religion and that activating the rings will ascend them to Godhood and kill the "unworthy". They still know that humans are Forerunner and want to kill them to hide that fact, but apparently think current humanity were the "unworthy" ones who were left behind when the rest of the Forerunners ascended to godhood.Halo 3 itself had a writing conflict where two of the writers vehemently disagreed over Humans=Forerunners and wrote their own version into the game. The original writer went with the original plan where Humans were Forerunners who were reseeded along with the rest of the galaxies races after the Halo's killed the originals. The new writer instead wanted Stone-Age Humanity to have been discovered by the Forerunners who chose them to become their successors after they killed themselves with the Halo's.
>>744543153>pruple
>>744569575There’s already only 1 earth level. The game feels like all the levels are split into two:Cairo StationOutskirts + MetropolisArbiter + OracleDelta Halo + RegretSacred Icon + Quarantine ZoneGravemind + High CharityUprising + Great JourneyAdd:The storm + floodgate (as chief)The ark + the covenant (as arbiter)Halo (as chief)And you basically have Halo 2 and 3 as one complete game
>>744565323Why? Games achieve platonic communication through simulated experience, which means they don't need to have a perfect contextual lead-in for the player to sublimate. It's one of the strongest arguments for games as a distinct art form, with only children's fairy tales able to achieve similar ease of induction ("Once upon a time...")
Imagine telling someone in 2006 both the Halo series and Bungie would die. They would call you insane.
>>744569641Joseph Staten: ...but the worst thing about Halo 2 for me was that... in Halo 1, it was all, look, I could go in, I could script it with AI, I could do playbacks, and I could fix stuff, right? But in Halo 2, we definitely went to the system, where it was a lot of custom animation, really long lead times, and you just... sure, something like the Monitor, if you caught it, you could fix, but it was really hard to go back and fix simple things in Halo 2 cinematics, unfortunately. But the thing I was going to mention before, and I'm not letting you off the hook, is remember what Miranda was going to do to the Master Chief. Would you like to tell the children what Miranda was going to do?Jason Jones: Yeah, should we wait until the right moment? I think it's still a few missions from now, but I think the phrase "arc-welding a thermonuclear bomb to his armor" comes to mind.Joseph Staten: That's right. Miranda was going to strap a bomb to the Chief's back after signing a—Jason Jones: It was going to be awesome.Joseph Staten: ...a deal with the devil—with the Prophets. And why was she going to do that?Jason Jones: Why do you need to do that?Martin O'Donnell: She was mad about Captain Keyes.Joseph Staten: Still mad.Martin O'Donnell: Her father's death.Joseph Staten: Punched her dad in the face.
>>744570530Jason Jones: But now, I think we can go to the— we can go back to the bomb thing where the Chief's been kind of taking Miranda's orders the whole game, and he comes back from one of his little missions with some little trinket he picked up for Miranda, and he finds her, like, in congress with the Prophets in the back of some Phantom. And it wasn't just 'cause of her dad in Halo 1, but she chose not to trust the Chief because of this, he's going crazy. He's all worried about the ring going off. And... Sorry.Joseph Staten: It was going to be cool.Jason Jones: We have listen to the line.Martin O'Donnell: "I am the monument to all your sins." There's the line. And no one knows exactly what that means except Jason.Jason Jones: And then it made perfect sense that Miranda and the Prophets get together and say, "Hey, let's send your tin man down with a bomb to take out the Gravemind." Oh, that would have been genius. The most genius part was when the Chief has the bomb... Jaime's going to kill me for even talking about this. I hope he never listens to it. There's no way he'll get this far into the movie.Jason Jones: ...you with the bomb arc-welded to your back, with your back to, like, this big hole and a bunch of ODSTs, like, backing you into the hole until you jump, and then them throwing, like, a SMG down after you. Oh, that would have been genius.
>>744570530>Forerunner TankJoseph Staten: Preceding this cinematic was where Forerunner Tank was going to take place. That's why this is such a long cinematic stretch. Remember, we would fight through Sentinel Wall—Martin O'Donnell: Most of the time, the reason there is a long cinematic is because you decided to make them long cinematics. That's what I remember.Joseph Staten: I'm trying to explain. Arbiter would be kicked down the hole by Tartarus, right, and then, bam, Forerunner Tank. You'd see the Chief's side of the story. They would meet up at the Gravemind. But when we lost Forerunner Tank, we had this really big, big cinematic—big, important cinematic that unfortunately could go nowhere, but right next to another big, long cinematic.Martin O'Donnell: It's not a plant. It's not Audrey. Although I don't know why I keep thinking about Audrey.Joseph Staten: Well, there was a big discussion where, you know, as originally designed, the Gravemind was this seething mass of corpses, right?Martin O'Donnell: Right.Joseph Staten: His teeth were skulls and he talked from the shadows. And when we moved to the world where we wanted him to have lip sync and actually... Maybe not the best decision in the world, but one, which in the world where we didn't have Forerunner Tank to introduce him properly, we sort of needed to have the moment still, the long moment of the Gravemind introduction.
>>744570660Martin O'Donnell: What is that thing in the middle of High Charity, Joe? What is that?Joseph Staten: That is the Forerunner ship. The Forerunner dreadnought.Martin O'Donnell: Forerunner Ship sounds like the name of a level we should have had. Hmm...Joseph Staten: Hmm... we'll get there. Oh, here it comes.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xEB0r8TV8MJoseph Staten: Man, the Covenant really just vacated High Charity. They got the hell out of dodge when they realized what was going to happen. And I remember just these lines that Truth is saying, remember? We wrote just like a whack of, I don't know, 40, 50 sort of one-off lines for the Prophet of—Martin O'Donnell: It was... 2,000. Yeah. But go ahead.Joseph Staten: It wasn't that bad, but actually turned out to be really helpful. Lesson being, Marty, always better to write some cool stuff, record that stuff, and—Martin O'Donnell: ...and always find a place to use it.Joseph Staten: ...and always find a place to use it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJAygIzAMHc>Prophet of Truth (loudspeaker): "Fear not, my brothers! The Sacred Icon is secure. It was Tartarus and his Brutes who took the Icon from the Flood, and for that they have our thanks.">Prophet of Truth (Loudspeaker): "Shall we let the Flood consume our holy city? Turn High Charity into another of their wretched hives? No enemy has ever withstood our might. The Flood too shall fail.">Prophet of Truth (Loudspeaker): "Whosoever is gripped by fear, take heed. I am the Prophet of Truth... And I am not afraid. Noble Mercy is here at my side. His wise counsel ever in my ears.">Prophet of Truth (Loudspeaker): "This crisis will not be the end of us. It is but one last hurdle before the Journey and salvation!">Prophet of Truth (Loudspeaker): "Now is the time of our unworlding, in a moment we shall all become...as gods.">Prophet of Truth (Loudspeaker): "If you will falter, know this...one final effort is all that remains."
so bungie was always retarded
after all these yearswas he right about your IP?
>>744570719Not really. Bungie Halo will always be good. But I do love me some Chad Warden.
>>744570067None of what you said is a retcon between 2 and 3. Only the Hierarchs know of Halo's true purpose. Regret and Mercy die. Now Truth has to pick up their slack and maintain bombastic sermons for the troops. He is always constantly lying about Halo's purpose and the nature of Humanity whenever his troops are in earshot. The only true thing he says is to Jonhson ("But that secret dies with all the rest") when activating the Ark. He is committed to maintaining the lie to stay in power, even if it kills him.
I just want to say that the prequel missions set an insane precedent for what 2 men can do to a covenant ship. If this mission was done by the OG writers, the boarding party would have been at least 4 whole ass teams of spartans.
>>744570873>If this mission was done by the OG writers, the boarding party would have been at least 4 whole ass teams of spartans.Bungie actually didn't want you to be with more than one spartan NPC in Reach because it would have felt overpoweredWinter ContingencyJorge and Carter>ONI: Sword BaseKat>NightfallJun>Tip of the SpearKat>Long Night of SolaceJorge>ExodusNone>New AlexandriaKat>The PackageCarter and Emile>Pillar of AutumnEmile
>>744570530>>744570626>Miranda betrays Chief with the Prophets and sends him on a suicide mission because she's mad about poppaThis sounds completly retarded and I don't know from whose ass are you pulling it from. I'm glad nothing of this dumbass plot remains.
Halo 3 was gorgeous in 2007 especially via VGA
>>744571013>This sounds completly retarded and I don't know from whose ass are you pulling it fromJoseph Staten.The idea of Cortana being evil was also from an early idea of Combat Evolved.
>>744553964You're a mind broken faggot
>>744570995That's not true at all>Winter ContingencyJorge and Carter, then the entire team, then Jorge>ONI: Sword BaseKat, then Carter, Jorge and Jun, and Emile on the roof>NightfallJust Jun for real>>Tip of the SpearKat, then Jorge>Long Night of SolaceKat, Carter and Jorge, then just Jorge>ExodusNone>New AlexandriaAlso none, you're on comms but never alongside a Spartan>The PackageCarter, Emile AND Jun for the latter half of the mission>Pillar of AutumnEmile, the last one
>>744570995breezing through the beach with the whole squad on long night of solace was cool. short but sweet
>>744571068Well it's good to stop writers sometimes.
>>744538936If I say what you want to hear would it make you go away?"
>>744563476>bharat solid
>>744571286>>744570995Reach was pretty kino
>One of the big challenges on Reach was establishing the cast of Noble Team, their human side, how they depend on each other, their relationship to the planet, etc etc. Without that, their death and sacrifice would be empty. But selling nuanced emotion can be very challenging in an action game. It's hard to get to know the subtleties of NPC characters with non-stop gun fire, grenades, and all that Halo sandbox chaos. In addition, the experience needs music to drive the emotion. Without music/audio, the experience itself will feel flat. Also note, that music/audio is added at the very end of development. So there needs to be a lot of faith that "the music/audio/VO will sell x moment" and designers need to give space for the music and story to live within the game.>We were a few months from completing development. I was building the opening mission, which was designed to introduce Noble Team. Music was still not present and I was getting a lot of pressure from above that was pushing me to borderline panic and illness. I was hearing "You're failing" "This is no fun" etc etc. I was beat down and felt alone.>At my lowest point on the project, I went to Marty for help and guidance. I explained my design intentions, confided my fears and the pressure I was getting. We sat down and played through the opening mission together. He then turned to me and calmy said, "Niles, everything is going to be fine. This experience is going to be great. This will work. Don't worry."
>>744570995The other spartans at Reach were still doing something during those missions. For the prequel missions in Campaign evolved, the other teams would be inserting at different locations, or immeditately splitting up to do their objectives.
>>744571034How many rounds is the AR supposed to hold? I thought it was 36, but here it's 32?
>>74457167160 in CE32 in H3, Reach and H436 in H5, Infinite and Campaign Evolved
>>744571671in the original CE it held 60 rounds, in 3, ODST, Reach, and 4 it held 32, it was Halo 5 that changed it to 36
>>744571428At least they had that 'other spartans in randomized gear' moment in the finale when your objective is to "survive"
>>744570827Truth made it very clear in 3 he believed he believed he would become a god if he activated the rings.
>>744571816You never hear Truth's real thoughs in 3 besides that brief moment at the firing of the rings, and when he's about to die.
>>744571928He literally whispers that he thinks the Halo's give godhood to Johnson. His literal last words are him saying he'll become a god.
>>744565201>Dead or AliveThere were several crossovers with DOA and Ninja Gaiden like the female Spartan in DOA4 and Hayabusa armor in H3.
>>744563997>le highly advanced ancient ayy is a fucking rockThis shit is so retarded that it baffles the mind, modern audiences are truly cattle.
>>744566340That's a cute ship
>>744572793Silicon-based aliens isn't that weird, and they didn't even know what radiation was.
>>744572218He yells everything else so the Brutes can hear, he whispers "that secret dies with all the rest".
>muh fpsHalo PC on Geforce 4 Ti 4600
>>744567235nta but I suspect that this is the goal, to completely ruin, destroy and subvert beloved IP's to the point that it becomes normalized because at that point its been shit far longer than when it was good.
>>744562542>To have a character land they have to be anthropomorphized
Bungie devs were wizardsCE's assets were actually designed with static baked lighting in mind. It's visually cohesive. That's why it has aged significantly better.Halo 2 was originally going to use a Doom 3 esque lighting system that was fully dynamic, and featured inky stencil shadows. They had to drop it midway through development, and fall back to an updated version of CE's renderer. They didn't redo the assets, so the final game just looks really flathttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00zI2ryLp5sSpecular on bsp is all kinds of broken in Halo 2, different ways depending on version of the game. Bungie disabled it on many surfaces because of this. In MCC it has a broken directional computation, in Vista it just doesn't work at all. Halo 2's maps were so big the original Xbox couldn't handle it. Containment is the biggest map in Halo 2Halo 2 had to run on a GeForce3. Doom 3 was made for GeForce 6800 Halo 3, they wanted to finish everything they started with Halo 2's development from 2002 to 2007, that's 5 years, and make it as good as could be. Stuff like warthog tires, scorpion treads, ect are parallaxed in 3. rendering the water as a piece of geometry with havok physics effectshttps://www.artstation.com/artwork/EvGlWnReach pushed the Xbox 360, roughly ATI X1600, as far as it could go, hence the 20fps and object motion blur>Automated Level of Detail Generation for Halo Reachhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnzcuJOT1ek
>>744545440odyssey is anti woke
>>744574065H3 Cortana was smoking hot. I wonder if DOA devs helped Bungie with Cortana's design.
There are people out there who named their baby girl Cortana
>>744551749Just ignore the culture war arguments for a second and look at this chicks face objectively; what the fuck were they thinking!? She looks like she is straining to shit 24/7 and is unlikable from the very first microsecond you see her.
>>744574282Is that the new narrative your paid shill packet is telling you to push? I mean, that's an insanely retarded push, but keep trying, "Lilith."
>>744574337>if you’re a military woman you not only look like a man but need to act like a beligerent asshole to people around youYou know what I’m gonna tackle this from a new perspective…its obviously being done on purpose BUT as a joke. No one can do something so silly and have it played straight.
>>744574347youre the tranny not me
>>744552760One four inte rocka here
>>744574065AFAIK people have attempted to restore Halo 2's lighting with mods.
>>744563476kek sjw trannies triggered rofl
>>744572929The full line is "I see now why you were left behind, you were weak and gods must be strong" aka he believes some ascended and some (us) didn't.
>>744553592kek
>>744574584Well they shouldn't. Non-baked in lighting is the worst thing that ever happened to graphics.
>>744566319this explains a lot in hindsight
>>744566319Canon: Joe StatenNon canon: everything else
>>744566319What's with all the washed up book authors after bungie left?
>>744566323You see this a lot in comics, TV and other collaborative fiction. Lot's of writers just do not play well with others, and hate having to account for other peoples stories and ideas when writing their own. These types have a nasty habit of taking all the plothooks and narrative threads the last writer left for them to build on and blowing them up in the opening scene or saying "Oh we already solved that in-between entries" so they they can write the story THEY want to write. The reason characters always come back from the dead in comics? It's new writers coming in and not wanting to account for a character they wanted to write being killed off by the previous writer.
>>744566319i liked silent storm by denning, felt like finding a nugget of gold in a pile of shit
>>744575737nta but you basically answered your own question, they are washed up talentless nobodies who couldn't write themselves out of a paperbag
>>744575737343 was trying to make it a multimedia scifi franchise instead of game-first like it'd pretty much always been. Of course, Halo had its books but they were never at the center until 343 happened.I did like the Forerunner books on their own, but I don't really think they were very Halo or really belong in it.
>>744566319Saying "Frank O'Connor was the base of Halo 4" Is massively unfair. They reused some names from his work and then wrote a completely unrelated and contradictory (and shitty) story with them. It's like accusing George Lucas of having a hand in DisneyWars.
>>744559759>Pleasure jumping with you, SpartanI really felt the hate, there.
>>744574337these people are so rotten ugly inside they just cannot help but project this onto everything they create. they're intimidated by beauty and reat it as a personal attack. see: everything they (not just 343) create. just sad
>>744576837>They reused some names from his work and then wrote a completely unrelated and contradictory (and shitty) story with them.Explain?
>>744577212He wrote the Terminals in Halo 3, and in those stories there are of course characters, and being Halo they of course have fancy ridiculous names like "Didact" and "Librarian" and such, and gave the origin of the Flood as the end result of evolution creating an intergalactic "apex predator" that consumed other galaxies. Well the people writing Halo 4 and its multimedia tie-in novels/comics/etc decided to retcon the entire backstory of the setting (such as making the Flood an evil science experiment from the Milky Way) and they rewrote these characters in ways so contradictory to how they were in 3, not just in characterization but in what they even did or where they were, that later Halo media had to create a second retcon that said there were multiple different people running around with the same names to explain the incompatibility.
>>744565761>Master Chief is always taking his helmet offOr they're doing the Iron Man in helmet close up.
>>744558053>Stop hating womenNo.
>>744565761>Chief is super emotional and is always disobeying ordersTo me the dumbest part of all of this is that the show went with there being this magic emotion suppressing implant in all the Spartans (located above their ass?), and if the Spartan finds out about it and goes and cuts this little implant out, they just instantly start getting all their human emotions back.So the Spartans are the way they are not because of conditioning and indoctrination, but because they have an easy to remove thingy, removing any nuance you could have from a plot delving into the ethics and psychological states of the Spartans and it makes everything that much sillier.
>>744564116he's such a lil slut for acceptance
>>744549253They also breathe methane so they're stinky boys too
>>744545440>billionsWhat is this cope?
>>744566319I tried doing an observational drawing of that cortana but it came out so bad :( how do I get better?
>>744568556You don't have any job.
>>744543153I think he is just making fun of the fact that the brute was not very tolerant
>>744571536but hes a bigot
Master Chief was such a zoomer for falling in love with an AI.
>>744571536Based Marty, also loved the somber music in Reach.
Why would they put the berserk mode powerup on the front of the Brute where it can be shot at? Why make them at all if damaging them makes the Brute go insane and attack allies, especially if you are going to put it on the front where it will be shot at?
>>744546723ive been using wiki since 06 and thats the first time ive seen so many lock icons in one place. seems like a very well researched article with no sign of propaganda.
>>744568035In Halo 4 and 5 the covenant species were part of Jul Mdama's faction. Jul faked believing in the Great Journey but used it to get power. In the main game of Halo 4 they're mostly just seen as pirates but in Spartan Ops and Halo Escalation, Jul had his own storyline that WAS going somewhere but got dropped in Halo 5 after Locke assasainated him in a cutscene on the first mission (thanks Brian Reed). Then thr rest of then were called the "Remnant Fleet" and were basically just pirates aside from sone of them who you fight on Sanghelios alongside Thel Vadamee.The covenant species in Infinite are not just mercenaries. They're the Banished, led by Atriox. It is a different faction introduced in Halo Wars 2. They're not religious and don't believe in the Great Journey and there is a lot more I could explain about this. For example Atriox was basically a cannon fodder Brute who got sick of being treated like shit and started a revolution and his own faction led by Brutes but including a lot of species. He's a pragmatist for the most part and despises the prophets for lying to everyone.>>744574334>it peaked in 2015 when Halo 5 came out and Cortana was evilWhat does this mean
>>744545546so wholesome and relatable
>>744545546Now this is the type of diversity and inclusion I can get behind.
>>744573103I bet I could still run it on my ancient 8800 gpu
>>744571536Marty is *the guy* you need to bring up if you want to make tourists seethe. It's actually a good way to quickly spot tourists. >Do they seethe at Marty's existence and feel the need to downplay his involvement in the series? If yes, then you've got yourself a tourist.I don't even like trump, but Marty was absolutely important to the series and is overall an extremely talented guy. It's okay to like the work of someone you don't have the same views as.
>>744565538Retarded writers.
Bump limit!
>>744588020It's so hard seeing him fall into that shit man like an uncle on drugs
>>744551523By Halo 3, Truth's plan was to ride out "The Great Journey" on the Ark, then reconquista the purified galaxy with his brutes. He gradually loses his sanity as that plan falls apart. What never made sense was Halo 2's part in it, why have Tartarus activate delta Halo? There was no way Truth could make it to the Ark in time. The failed attempt was neccesary to prime the Halo array for remote activation from the Ark, but that means assuming Tartarus would succeed in starting the procesa but failing to finish it. Would have made more sense if Tartarus knew he had to sacrifice himself to start the process.
>>744585398And the funny thing is that he barely knew Cortana for any length of time.Like a day on Reach for the initial test, however long Halo CE, First Strike, and the opening missions of H2 (about a month), and then he ditches her on High Charity, not seeing her for several months until the end of H3.
>>744571068It was actually an idea from Marathon but you haven't played that.
>>744590063>The failed attempt was neccesary to prime the Halo array for remote activation from the ArkI always wonder why that is though.Seems like a pretty shitty system for the Ark to require an individual Halo to fail halfway through firing for it to send its command out.
>>744572218Truth isn't exactly wrong. He says that on the Ark, where he and his supplicants will be safe from the Halos. Had the flood and elites not followed them, he have an empty galaxy to conquer.
>>744564567>>744564676>>744564934I like how easy it is to tell apart the retards that never even played CE because that game had health packs and you could waste them by grabbing one and taking damage before your shield recharged.
>>744590283You do know the flood was defeated simply because MC showed humanity could care deeply even for an AI, unlike the forerunners?
>>744590847Even their constructs hated constructs
>>744591032Halo really is just old testament vs new testament
