Why is Monolith Soft so ashamed of Xenoblade Chronicles 2?
what?
>>744541580
>>744541580they literally stuffed more xenosaga lore into the switch 2 edition
man people here make the stupidest theories about shitmeanwhile the actual devs just do their jobs and they dont care one way or another about much of anything at all they just want to go home and fap to the latest JAV
not millionsnot billionsnot even trillionsbut many, many more
>>744541580I would be too.
The previous thread died before i could post. Not sure if allowed here, but i'll give it a shot. Could someone draw Mythra in most of Pyra's original costume, but keep Mythra's bare legs and boob window??And if it can be done as part of a PC / DeskTop Wallpaper, that'd be great too! If not, it's fine.Thank you in advance.
>>744541896Was there any truth to the rumor that the Xenosaga IP is back with Monolithsoft/Nintendo?
I love Homura!
>>744541580It's alright.3 > 1 > X > 2They didn't fix merc missions. Merc assault is pretty cool though, I like playing as the blades.
>>744546536>homura
>>744541580Takahashi literally custom-ordered two stuffed dolls of Homura and Hikari. that isn't an action of someone ashamed of his creation.
>>744546485we dont know yet
>>744546637Its the better name
>>744545216one of her proposed outfits had Pyra's hotpants
>>744546545oh hey they actually fixed the grody old portrait icons
>>744546749I wonder who made them and how long ago
I have the Xenoblade 2 collectors edition in the big box and I played the game for like 1 hour and dropped it because it wasn't Xenoblade X.
>>744543460it's kinda surprising how bad the Smash models are compared to the game's, the textures are worse as well, I suppose that's the tradeoff for potentially having eight of them onscreen
>>744547931sorry about your shit taste. X is the worst game in the series.
>>744547929cute
In NG+ do I really have to use shittier Core Chips to not trivialize everything? I don't mind if it's easy but everything dies in 1 hit while I'm level 1.
>>744547978Best One* next to Chronicles 1 on Wii.
WHY YES I L O V E BEING DROPPED IN A FUCKHUGE MAP WITH ZERO DIRECTIONS TELLING ME WHERE TO GO, JUST A SHITTY WAYPOINT WAY OFF IN THE DISTANCE THAT DOESN'T TELL ME WHAT ROAD TO TAKE TO GET TO THE FUCKING OBJECTIVE BECAUSE THE MAP HAS SO MANY ANNOYING FUCKING TWISTS AND TURNS ITS IMPOSSIBLE TO TELL HOW TO ACTUALLY GET TO THE FUCKING WAYPOINTFUCK YOU XENOBLADE CHRONICLES 2
>>744548213nah, there's a reason that they killed the planet with that garbage 13th chapter.
>>744548229skill issuelearn to read maps and plan routes
>>744548229it must suck being as directionally challenged as you.
I just got xenoblade chronicles x what am in for
>>744548229And this is why new open world games suck donkey ass, because of people like this anon.
>>744548412Rap jumpscare
>>744548412garbage music. censored customization, garbage plot, and one mediocre waifu.
>>744548229>Why does my open world exploration game have exploration in it????retard
>>744548412no new game+, apparentlynot sure why its the only game in the series to do this
>>744548412a long adventure if you explore (you should explore)
>>744548229i felt the same when I first played this 6 years ago. Its usually best to just look at the area around you, paying attention to potential paths to take, rather than relying on the shit map. Nowadays Xenoblade 2 is my favorite game of all time, but I won't defend the map system.
>>744541580They're not tho.Mythra's kid doko?
>>744541580They should be ashamed of every Xenoblade.
>>744548229this but unironicallly
>>744548727why? only X is bad.
>>744548412Input Lag The Game
>>744548412They're going to use words like "Nopon", "Japan", and "United States of America" and you have to take it seriously
>>744548412The worst DLSS ever
>>744547790>The previous thread died before i could post. Not sure if allowed here, but i'll give it a shot.>Could someone draw Mythra in most of Pyra's original costume, but keep Mythra's bare legs and boob window??>And if it can be done as part of a PC / DeskTop Wallpaper, that'd be great too! If not, it's fine.>Thank you in advance.thanks for that. Now she just need the bare arms...
>>744548765X is the worst, but the others are still shit.
>>744548412Burgercore aesthetics.
Why is flawless noponstone grinding so tedius? Just got to the land of challenge in chapter 4 and the best option is the pest control - 3 minutes each time for 3 stones ffs2 hours of the same thing over and over agin just for swimsuit pyra and mythra
>>744546485Bamco isn't named in the final credits despite KOS-MOS and now Momo being in the game, but beyond that we don't know anything.
>Want to have a new playthrough with proper progression>literally impossible to have any sort of progression or difficulty curve or anything at all without starting a NG from scratch>90% of blades are relegated to post-game grinding and will never be used... again.I really wish they made a NG+ that resets progression and not just level down. Level down means fuck all when you can perma art cancel, full burst and driver combo from the start.
>>744549595just do max Bringer of Chaos?
>>744549595Same you have to really go out of your way to not make the game a cakewalk in NG+ unlike 1 where you can just lower your levels a bunch and it's still good.>>744550223not everyone has the DLC.
>>744550379sounds like a (You) issue.
>>744550223That still doesn't really fix progression. It just makes the game a chore.
Why the fuck is this bitch making me jump?
>>744541580Does anyone know the best/easiest way to raise Idea levels? Most of my characters have an 8 or 9 in every category (a few 10's here and there) but I wouldn't mind having all 10's. Doing NG+, just unlocked Mercenary Missions and the new Assault mode
>>744548412I tried to get into X and failed miserably. It did not feel fun
>>744551132do it faggot
>>744551132just press the jump button 6000 times, how hard can it be?
>>744541580>Ashamed of XC2>Is the most popular of the Xenoblade trilogy>Switch 2 Edition getting tons of people to try it>Has an entire DLC set in the past along with extra blades including MOMO on S2.>Pyra & Mythra got into the latest Smash game as DLC>>AshamedYou could not have posted a more dishonest statement than this.
>>744551724>>Is the most popular of the Xenoblade trilogythat's probably why.Imagine if Barney was the most popular show of all time.
>>744548412Bad story fun side missions. Racism simulator. The only xeno game with actual mechs(also makes the game stupid easy)
>>744548412Best gameplay in the series
>>744548412Fun.
>be me>play for 9 hours today>finish chapter 3 kino>spend 5 hours of that doing sidequests and merc stuff in chapter 4>game crashes>realize I didn't save>remember there's no autosave in XB2Thankfully the game forces you to save after chapter 3 ends or that could have been so much worse. I've been playing nothing but games with autosaves lately I completely fucking forgot how normal doing regular manual saves used to be.Is there a known memory leak issue with this game or did I get unlucky? If there is an issue the Switch 2 version clearly doesn't fix it.
>>744551724All subsequent Xenoblade games have tried to be as distant in tone from XC2 as possible
>>744552194It's kinda funny that the only game that doesn't have autosave is also the only game in the franchise that likes to crash for some reason. Never happened to me somehow in 2 full playthroughs.
>>744552298All subsequent Xenoblade games to 1 have tried to be as distant in tone from 1 as possible.All subsequent Xenoblade games to X have tried to be as distant in tone from X as possible.
So apparently you can get T-Elos on a normal NG as long as you already cleared the game. Are any other post-game blades like that?
>>744549309If you're trying to get this shit the moment you can on your first playthrough it's going to take forever, either come back later when you have better combat options or eat the fucking timesink
I'm probably getting a Switch 2 soon so I can play the Xenoblade 2 update, but maybe I should play FR again in the meantime since I'm never spending money on that garbage that is Xenoblade 3 to get the update for FR
For some reason they thought a single player MMO also needed a gacha mechanic.
>>744546485>They made Kos-Mos pull rates almost common rate and everyone has been getting her. She and Momo have no dialogue together beyond post-battle interactions >Bamco isn't listed in the end credits anymore despite the fact there are full-on Xenosaga characters in the game whereas they got a special thanks in FR for a namedrop and Vector logo>The mysterious blue speck was on the FOURTH disc in soundtrack collection, Genesis is the fourth mainline game and will deal with animus/anima shenanigans All that is to say we don't know but things ARE happening
>>744554380To further the don't know shit and have 0 evidence but you know what fuck it let's speculate bandwagon: it's not like the /v/ hivemind and elsewhere hasn't spent a year pointing out the release schedule is still extremely sparse and nintendo/monolith have a history both past and current, and somewhat unrelated but still in the ballpark: remastering the shit out of everything seems to work.
>>744553707What was the point of keeping up this kind of vagueposting dialogue even in the trilogy-ending final DLC expansion that only fans who've played all the games would have bought?
>>744553707Am I losing anything by watching FR instead of playing it? Couldn't finish 3
>>744541580Femishits or any subservient cucks are retarded death cultists.
I just started Xenoblade Chronicles Definitive Edition Nintendo Switch 2 Edition. I'm doing the little side quests around Colony 9. What am I in for (no spoilers)?
>>7445549843 sucks but FR is definitely worth playing, and you're not missing much by not having finished 3
I still in hopium for that promised Metsublade Logosnicles
>>744541580Lmao what? If anything it's Takahashi's dream game.Tetsuya Takahashi on Xenoblade 1>“…in terms of my own personal goal–my vision of an ideal game–I’d honestly have to say that it’s barely 5% of the way there.”>“To be honest, there are times when I think I’ve atrophied as a writer since the Xenogears era.”>” [I’m] grateful for the game’s positive reputation, [but I and my team] didn’t set out to make Xenoblade Chronicles into the company’s magnum opus. It was made to be an experiment”Tetsuya Takahashi on Xenoblade 2>"Xenoblade 2 is kind of like a culmination of all the things that I have done--and would like to have done--from my past.">"I want to make something that people can look back on fondly one day as something that really shaped their lives. Something like what I loved as a boy, like Oliver! (by Carol Reed) and Galaxy Express 999 (by Rintaro). — That’s why I started working on this game.">"For “Xenoblade 2”, I think a lot of people feel a sense of stiffness and lack of mobility for today’s society, and I wanted to make something that would cheer people up."
>>744554973So you point at the screen and say>there it is! he's talking about *them*!
>>744555163Quests with a Clock are timed. They need to be done before a certain event happens. it will be a little bit after your 5th Hero/Heroine/Party member joins you.
>>744548765>only 3 is bad.Fixed
>>744541580Worthless gacha system that does nothing for the game except arbitrarily lock sidequests and field skills behind it rather than just a good progression system.
why elf of all things?
>>744555516you can tell this is true just by playing itxenoblade 2 feels like something made by someone just putting all the cool shit they like into it, like anno with evangelion the only problem is westerners are retards with 0 taste so when they play a game with a design drawn by the code geass artist or see a fucking mazinger reference their eyes glaze over because they are normalfaggot newfaggots and not the otaku the game was made for
>>744555516>trash writers forced to make a better product under restrictions>makes worthless garbage once unsupervised
>>744555801why not?
>>744546749>Homura and Hikari>>744555481>Metsu
TAKAHASHIIIIIYOU MUST BE A BETTER MAN AND MAKE XENOBLADE 3 AND GENESIS
>>744554973The absolute dumbest point is when Rex talks to Linka about King Eulogimenos like he's some obscure figure, she's his fucking granddaughter
>>744555516doraemon and the new steel troops is deeper and more sincere than Xenoblade 2, just saying.
nobody cares about xenoblade beside the pornit's a shit game all games flopped beside the one had hot chicks in it
>>744555163I feel like sidequesting in 1 is an easy way to burn yourself out. The game's pacing is kinda slow in the first half, so filling its playtime with too many sidequests can make you want to quit before even getting to the big moments.You get a really good art from one sidequest once you get to the arm area.Also, challenge the named bosses. They'll help you build your skill trees.Unique Gear (purple) is just gear you can't change gems for. Blue gear is better because the numbers are hardly worth the lack of customization in gems (unless it happens to be a really good gem)
>>744555804We all know XC1 wasn't even a Xeno title for much of its development and that Iwata basically goaded him into it, X got hamstrung by the MMO requirement, 2 was "fuck it we need something for this oddball fucker console launch give us whatever you got" so he probably said fuck it and went balls out
>>744541580Because it's an embarrassing game
It's easy to forget that XB3's generally well-liked outside of the /v/ Xenothread bubble.>>744555516>"I want to make something that people can look back on fondly one day as something that really shaped their lives. Obviously they succeeded considering the reception the game receives now almost a decade later, and it's all thanks to the Voucher program.
>>744556315>2 was "fuck it we need something for this oddball fucker console launch give us whatever you got" so he probably said fuck it and went balls outmore like he got a blank check and no supervision because they realized monolith are the most talented developers in the world when it comes to world design after they made the best open world of all time in X and cannibalized the majority of their team to work on breath of the wild with basically a skeleton crew making 2 all on their own
>pandering to the gachashit audienceThey should be ashamed
>>744554883>remastering the shit out of everything seems to work.A lot of people ask why Nintendo/Monolithsoft would care about a moderately successful dead series when Xenoblade has basically already eclipsed it in sales and popularity and the obvious reason is because Nintendo relishes the company's legacy. If they gave a shit about any of that they wouldn't have wanted their new rpg associated with anything "Xeno-" right from the jump after XSIII commercial failure and series cancelation. That's why I need Saga's fully coming back in the near future
I love all Xenoblade games!I can't wait for Genesis>>7445564283 is honestly not that bad, it has glaring flaw for sure but that just like every xenoblade game and the worst xenoblade game is still 8/10.watch they're gonna shitpost Genesis & pretend it's the worst games lmao
>>744556428XB3 is a fantastic game and I'm dying to replay it, but everything after the homecoming and some other stuff like repetitive colony liberations and sidequest overuse taints it a lot retroactively. If it wasn't for the final act, I'd be alongside everyone else outside of /v/, but when compared to the rest of the series (even 1 which after replaying it again, I also feel it drops off a cliff near the end where Shulk becomes Poochie where every time Shulk isn't on screen everyone must ask where is Shulk and the power of friendship gets repeated 70 times per minute in every cutscene) it left a very sour taste in my mouth. So much so FR failed to make a lasting impression on me and forgot everything about it.
Isn't 3 the only one without a stupid fake death ending?
if 3 is considered as bad game.I am curious how xenofags will react if they get ACTUAL bad game. maybe xenosaga 2 tier bad or worse than that.
>>744557102nah with how modern Monolithsoft right now, we will never get something as clusterfuck like XS2 at least on technical wise.the better question is what if xenoblade get bad story like FE Fates/Engage
>>744557042It has a fake death chapter climax and a bunch of other fake deaths on top of the entire premise being about dying over and over again in an unending hellscape rendered meaningless once Origin is forced to complete its function at the end, I don't think you can get more more fake death
3tards and their eternal victim complex are such an iconic duo.
>>744557315we have XDE chapter 13 but I still think it's not that bad. not enough makes me rolling my eyes
>>744557404Oh ok, because I haven't played it, but from what I knew it remains ambiguous whether Mio and Noah reunite, so it was less reassuring/closed than 2 where Pyra and Mythra come back
>>744556428>It's easy to forget that XB3's generally well-liked outside of the /v/ Xenothread bubble./v/ is a contrarian shithole full of people with actual asperger's.One of the guys who worked at an EB games near me was addicted to xenoblade 2 and only xenoblade 2. He didn't give a shit about the other ones. I wouldn't be surprised if he's the 2schizo omnipresent in these threads constantly talking about how much he hates 3 for not being 2 again.
>>744557315I never played Fates, what's so bad about it?the only FE I've played was 3H and I will never touch Engage with that gayass ugly design
>>744557675>knew it remains ambiguous whether Mio and Noah reuniteThe worlds were always supposed to re-unite. The ending confirms that they are, but this time it's working as planned without Z and Alpha entities killing it.
Was cutscene music always so fucking loud? Even with cutscene voice slider maxed it the music overpowers it sometimes.
>>744555516Ah yes, Xenoblade 2, the culmination of what Takashi likes, such as gambling, bad writing, horrible aesthetic and artstyles and gameplay flow, horrendous voice acting, a butchered translation, loli propaganda and cucked dogs defending it because they have no taste. How... admirable.
>>744541580Why did you make a ragebait thread?
>>744557315It depends on how much screentime the obligatory god/godlike entity who is bored and or scared and or lonely and copes with an extremist endless death and rebirth of the universe has.
>>744557681I don't get why 2fags want every Xenoblade game to be like 2, because the reason 2 was special is that it's one of a kind and different from the other xeno games.Monolith choosing not to make another Pyra/Mythra expy makes their existence even more special, and proves they're not massive sellouts, unlike, say, Gust.
>>744557675It's a good game with flaws just like the other three, just play it when the S2 patch comes out
>>744557990That's what I said. All the xenoblade games are tastefully unique. It keeps them fresh.
>>744557681>he thinks his personal boogeyman is making posts he doesn't like Meds.
>>744557990Pyra and Mythra are already the expies
>>744554973Because you're tremendously stupid if you don't understand that he means Pneuma and Logos. Like, borderline retarded stupid, it straight up shows N's sword and Matthew's gauntlets as he says this.
I am too retarded for the style of combat in the Xenoblade series. I am used to either old school turn-based combat or Kingdom Hearts style ARPG combat. The auto-attacks and specials all feel weightless (both player and enemy) and my only strategy for bosses is to grind till I am way overleveled. The strategy of team and special attack composition is completely lost on me. Still absolutely love the worlds, exploration, and music though.
>>744558287I agree that the fine detail of the combat in these games is lost on me and I suck a making an optimized build like the guides on youtube, but it's not hard to beat all of them without overleveling.Break > Topple deals with 50% of the game and chain attacks deal with the other 50%. In the case of X, overdrive deals with 100% of the game and all you really need is augments that give you TP and an art that gives you full animation immunity.1 is the only game in the series I believe has bossfights that require certain setups, like Lorithia.
>>744558237No shit, you're proving my point as to why it was pointless to not just refer to them by name
>>744558584You're right, Rex should stop in the middle of the fight, look straight into the camera, and say "Man, I sure wish Pneuma and Logos, otherwise known as Pyra, Mythra and Malos form the hit game Xenoblade Chronicles 2 for the Nintendo Switch, who were the other two pieces of the Trinity Processor, were here so they could override Ontos' control of Origin and help us shut him down."The others have no fucking idea who they'd be, there's no reason for him to refer to them by name.
>>744541580Because it's rancid dogshit for the weebiest of weebs who feed off pure cringe and dumpster fire gameplay.
>>744558287They need to change the combat for Genesis. Make it more streamlined. Or just go all action-based ala Tales/Star Ocean.
>>744558287I absolutely despise Kingdom Hearts combat.
Don't mind me I'm just standing in front on the shop in Fonsett gorging on Noponcho over and over again to hit S+ on Zenobia, Patroka and Crossette. Don't mind me. I'll be here for a couple hours...
>>744558287I also don't see the appeal. The last time I can think some retard tried to arbitrarily add action onto turn based combat (ATB), people still talk about how it sucks today. And nobody ever said MMOs were engaging to play.I just don't get it. More power to them, though. They managed to find an audience for it.
>>744558287Its because you never played an mmo in your life. Let alone know where the system even originated from.
>>744559657Yes that is true. I have never once touched any mmorpg, I was always more of a console JRPG fan. I admit my ignorance there. The combat is still taking some getting used to for me.
Any chance for the expansion pass for 2 going on sale ever again? Last time was July of last year.
>mocking people for not playing MMOXenofags absolutely lost their mind.
>>744559452I feel like the brown bits should be one of her darker reds and like half those bronze bits should be core crystal green
>barges in >Punches you in the face>Then tells you to drop your fucking pants so she can suck you off to cure her boredom How do you respond?
>>744541875me on the right
>>744560856>kick her in the face>throw her to a big group of male Tirkins
>>744560856I sock her back in the face and stomp her fucking throat completely and toss her body off the sky turtle.
>>744556763"They" have to shit on every game that isn't 2. The discord will be up soon to flood the thread with more 2 spam and shitting on the other games like they've been doing for a decade
>>744559767If you don't mind a little history lesson, the type of combat most mmos along with xenoblade and a few other single player rpgs are "skill" based/focused. "Skill" as in actual ability skills, not "getting gud" skill. You focus more on the character's skills and positions than you do mashing the attack button. The reason why is because old school mmos couldn't handle something like Mario 64 or Spyro being an online game due to how basic internet infrastructure was. Servers wouldn't be able to handle that many type of commands let alone complex combos like something from Kingdom Hearts so mmo developers had to come up with a workaround. What they came up with was queuing a lot of actions like attacking which eliminated the always needing to press the attack button since you're not really doing anything and just blindly mashing 1 button all the time. This leaves the player a lot of room and freedom to manage multiple skills at once which makes it much much much easier to manage 10, 20, or even 30 skills at once. Not only that but also positioning your character better. Xenoblade of course doesn't give you that many skills to work with in battle but they still borrowed and improved on some of the old school mmo combat. Your combos, damage, and sometimes your defenses and evasion come from skills not normal attacks. Blindly mashing skills won't get you very far in some cases and often times you want to time certain skills before or after others. Xenoblade's combat is essentially a rhythm game and oddly enough, requires more coordination than most action games but that's a whole other rant from me.
Anyone have the menu of Zeke with all 3 Xenosaga blades equipped?Kinda funny how their best driver is him.
>>744559452Buy the DLC for the Love Source.3000 Trust per bottle and you can do it on 3 blades at once.E rank to S+ is 20.S rank to S+ is 17.
>>744546545>3 first bait
>>744557990lol ironclad logic>you like game?>well no more of game should exist!
>>744554973Because 3 was made to attract newfags.Takahashi wanted to get more people to play Xenoblade and he used the Ending of the Klaus saga to get newfags like Nomura did with KH3.
>>744548330>skill issue reddit postlearn to communicate without having to use retarded catchphrase to signal that you're part of some gay and retarded online subculture
>>744552298Every Xenoblade has been massively different from every one of its predecessors outside of some themes and the main MMO-like combat. It's clear the team just don't want to make the same game over and over again.
>>744552194When I first played the game back in 2017 I crashed and lost 3 hours of progress. Think it was midway through Uraya, had to do the whole beginning -> Arrival at Uraya section all over again.Goes to show how much I was enjoying myself back then I powered through it.>>7445549843 is overall the most 'okay' of the series but I think Future Redeemed is the best 'game' they've made yet, even if it is a bit bogged down by 3's mediocre combat.
>>744562640I really gotta slide and get the single grass every single time huh? Why on earth do they not let you carry more the one?
Xenoblade 2 is pretty much a top 5 RPG it's really good
Pulled 2 of the 6 NG+ that require bonding core crystals, only used 10 Rare cores so far. Just getting to Mor Ardain for the first time. Feels good /v/ros
WHAT THE FUCK DO I SET THE AUDIO SETTINGS TO SO IT ISN'T BALANCED LIKE SHIT
>>744558075He's probably right because I personally see you posting the same meds posts every single Xeno thread
>>744563864Yup. S+ is a huge boost so the devs probably want you to put in effort.Took me a week but if you're dedicated, you could probably do it in 10 hours. Love Source also has a cap of 40.It's way faster than using Noponcho though.
;w; vandamn just an heroed
>>744541580>Why is Monolith Soft so ashamed of Xenoblade Chronicles 2?It's the face of the series due to it's character designs which cater to straight males, an audience everybody in the games industry (honorable exceptions korea and china) is running away from, despite it being the only real audience video games ever had.They got the suicidal ideation of western devs by osmosis with feminist troon transplants they got from western countries in the last decades, it'll take a while for them to beat this flu, but not before they also start losing billions just like the western games industry has
>>744564759>He's(You) are not fooling anyone
>>744565379It's been 4+ years since 3. People had already long come around on 2 by then. 3 is good but compared to 1 and especially 2 it's a bit of a letdown. The main problem is faggots who try to make it sound like the worst thing ever created which just makes any discussion around its quality go straight into the shitter.
I just wish Pneuma could be permanent.
Xenoblade Fighting when?
>be shulk>go on an adventure to avenge your best friend>you find out she’s alive and dress like thiswhat do???
>>744567995Marry the bird
>>744556728This remind me of the minute detail that the dev made several characters have their locks of hair part at the center so that you can see more of the girls backside. These devs were really professional and passionate about this game.
>>7445567284K version of this and T-Elos?
>>7445654753 hours later you are still here checking for replies, YOU are not fooling anyone
What were they thinking adding this sex beast into a nintendo game?.... and why do I like it..
>>744565526>3 is good but compared to 1 and especially 2 it's a bit of a letdown.Meh, I actually think its better than 2 on the ground that I didn't ragequit it over the dumb field skills, but apparently this makes me an heretic on /v/.
>>744568465I dont have this blade wtf
>>744568465I find her ugly, I prefer Adenine.
This game needs a photo mode
>>7445684822fags are vocal but they aren't as massive as you think.
Admit it, you looked up a Blade Tier list at some point didn't you
>>744568646no, post it
>>744568482>filtered by Field SkillsSo what, is it good now that they fixed it?
>>744541580>Excited to play new patch.>Ah man it looks wonderful.>Fucking audio mixing bug, cant hear voices and no battle music.>No solution in sight, just the words "wait for a patch."OK THEN BUD! THANKS FOR WASTING MY FUCKING TIME AND MONEY!
>>744568728I don't have a switch 2 too.
>>744568728The field skill update makes the game playable
>>744568686
>>744555516>"For “Xenoblade 2”, I think a lot of people feel a sense of stiffness and lack of mobility for today’s society, and I wanted to make something that would cheer people up."Based
>>744568913its missing blades chief
>>744568913Whoops cropped tiers
>>744568646Yes, I looked at a lot of XB2 gameplay stuff including blade tier lists and "how to use blade" from *him*, some speedruns, challenge mode records, and I got links to the datamine somewhere.Did the same with X, and I had fun with both of 'em. 1 and 3 didn't really do it for me instead.
>>744568913>>744568985>old The updated one is this.
He who shall not be named did irreparable damage to the Xenoblade community
>>744569160Lmao poor Electra
>>744568465>You're wercome, anon
Give everyone Kaiser Zone and they'll go to S rank.>120% boost to damage and AoE range
>>744569229Does said person to truly like any Xenoblade game other than 2
>>744569412It's honestly that good.Weird how Crossette is only A tier instead, are we ignoring how she singlehandedly carries any speedrun, and never truly falls off for post game either? She isn't Poppi QTpi or Fiora but come on now.
>>744568482>field skillsWhile I agree this was probably the worst thing in XB2, this isn't an issue anymore with the update.
>>744546485>>744554380>>744554883>>744549449I saw people point out public trademark sites still show Bamco owning XenosagaHere's the thing, that shit takes weeks if not MONTHS to be properly updatedMicrosoft said Double Fine owns Psychonauts but trademark sites still haven't been updated
>>744569519Crossette has no support skills other than the one that boosts the party to Launched enemies.Launch is pretty shit in 2.
>>744569972Alchemy Adept will affect anything related to fusion combos, effectively doubling as a fast party gauge fill as well, and the skill you mention happens to be ideal for Pyra if she wants to set up bigger Volcano DoTs by getting a fusion combo on Launch
>>744570280>VolcanoCouldn't you just do it with Poppi, Fiora and Dagas?
>>744570394>FioraThe other two can contribute to the same strat, but not sure how Fiora would help in this one since you need only a Earth blade for the first stage and you don't even want to finish the combo(but you could with the same Earth blade either way)That said, I wanted to point out the launch skill happens to support one of Pyra's strongest strats, which would be using her LV3 on a Launched enemy to set up a strong Volcano DoT, and then have somebody smash the enemy until eventually the DoT is hitting insane numbers.
>>744563159>KH3Now that dumpster fire makes me actually look back on Xenoblade 3 more fondly despite it being the weakest entry.>no no, Xehanorts evil ass was merely misunderstoodSuck my dick Nomura you pussy ass coward.
>>744557909>loli propaganda
Is the XenoX switch 2 upgrade as bad as they say?The FPS on the switch 1 version is turns me off so I was waiting for when I get a switch 2.... but apparently most people hated it? Did they fix it?
>>744570858that nigga killed universes
>>744569160>no MomoStill outdatedProbably between C and D depending on how useful you consider reskinned Orb Master and the ability to switch element right before a chain attack to double damage her own orbs. It doesn't look like she has much beyond that and maybe that recharge skill. She's a full burst enabler.
>>744570973You have to willing pay for it. Don't have a Switch 2 but I think you can just enable the 60fps and leave the shit upscaling alone. Personally I'd just emulate the Switch 1 version and use the already made 4k+ 60fps mods, but that's just me.
>>744570638I mean, it's probably faster to just use the blades I mentioned to do damage instead of relying on DoTs.>>744571119"He" said B/C. Momo's also a good stat stick. She gives 40% Ether up for some reason.She's also bugged so...
>>744571308I kinda want to replay XB2 with a 60fps mod on emulator. I keep hearing about it but I never hear anyone saying they went throught the game like that.
>>744569160I don't like this Enel playstyle of using only 1 blade and break the game by minmaxing every blade cheating all the abilities in. How does the tier list look assuming 3 rare blades on every party member and that you are actually playing to unlock the affinity chart instead of having it filled in and fighting superbosses for youtube videos?>>744571308I want the online shit
>>744571362>She gives 40% Ether up for some reason.Wait what>She's also bugged so...Wasn't aware of this. Elaborate.
>>744570973Does the Switch 2 update add anything else other than resolution and 60fps? Honestly not a deal breaker for me. Especially when 1 of the options is shit.
>>744571396>3 rare blades on every party memberKinda pointless. You can get full burst with less if you are aiming at that.Also hinders your performance because the AI isn't very consistent with switching, they will fuck you over whenever you need healing, or want to use a certain combo.>cheating all the abilities inIt does make more sense to rank blades based off what they can do with a full affinity chart, but in that case I'm pretty sure Crossette would be considered the best blade in the game out of the box, due to early availability and being able to cap her potion skill at any time. This is again reinforced by NG speedruns relying on Crossette almost exclusively.
>>744571584>Kinda pointlessIt's not because even going through the whole game you wouldn't get enough affinity for all of them even if you don't have them equipped let alone disregard them.
>>744571725!
>>744571661Love Source breaks the Trust grind. The hardest parts are filling the nodes and the fact you need like 20 sources to reach S+
>>744571396>assuming 3 rare blades on every party memberYou don't do this. Only person with 3 blades is the controlled character. The AI will change Blades and you'll lose Kaiser Zone/40% crit rate from Fiora/Monado Speed/Enchant/Vision.>>744571405Every blade gives a stat up. Highest is usually 24% from Common Blades. Momo gives 40% up.The Momo form you start with gets Pouch Item effects. When you switch to the Dark form in combat, she doesn't get the Arts recharge boost if you start with Light.
I cant believe the ship is nopon powered
>>744548412NOT EVEN A DISTANT LAND WE STUCK ON A WHOLE DIFFRENT PLANET
>>744571869Captain Future had an episode like that.
>>744571783>Every blade gives a stat up. Highest is usually 24% from Common Blades. Momo gives 40% up.I know but 40% is insane.>When you switch to the Dark form in combat, she doesn't get the Arts recharge boost if you start with Light.Lame, even if the stat mod sounds crazy enough it would indeed be solid C tier. If we want to rank her before maxing out, I'm not sure much would change.
Should add a little "NG+" symbol next to Pandoria there, because she's only ranked highly because of a skill Zeke unlocks in his second affinity chart. Otherwise she's low tier.
>>744568985>>744569160 >Fiora is S tierOh no no no! Some schizos are going to be mad.
>>744571396>I want the online shitBeen emulating X:DE right now, online was really gutted from what I've been reading, compared to the WiiU version.>no chat>less players due to paid online>paid onlineHell I read some people beat the game and still didn't know the game had online. It was very badly explained in this version almost like they tried to hide it. You don't start with the game asking you to go online. The game just starts normally in DE. They also give more farming tickets for offline players. I think the only online only stuff are just cosmetics from what I'm reading.
>>744572124She's straight "cheat code" tier. Except for the part where you need to beat land of challenge stages to max her out I guess.
>>744571924Momo is basically a useful stat stick. Give her to Zeke to boost KOS-MOS or Morag to boost Fiora.>>744572120She's only broken outside of Challenge Mode. She's pretty bad in it since Zeke can only use his skill once per battle and in Challenge Mode, Rounds exist and is considered as 1 battle.
>>744572180>the strongest character in 1>the strongest balde in 2I'm tired of Fiorawank
>>744572314>She's only broken outside of Challenge ModeYea that too. Pandoria ranking is a bit overly specific, realistically she's not that good.
>>744563009go play cod or 'EA FC' then; that's what you want. the same game over and over and over, every year, unto eternity.
What other games are there like xenoblades that involve philosophy and exploration of the world?
>>744557990Everything is expy of Elly
>>744572538Fallout 3 and NV3 has a theological focus but NV is more philosophical
>>744572382But outside of Challenge Mode, she deals insane amounts of damage just with Arts.
>>744572758Yea but still only NG+Pretty crazy to put her in the same tier as the Aegis girls, Shulk, Patroka, T-elos and motherfucking Crossette.
>>744572831She's at the bottom of A tier. Her insane damage makes her better than anyone in B.
>>744572538Any western RPG
>>744572538Shin Megami Tensei
>>744572948Feels like the ranking needed better criteria than playing NG+ with maxed out blades and apparently only for main game enemies.
I'm replaying XC2 on Switch 2 and it's way more cringe than I remembered. Every single character is a bad anime caricature.It's still fun to play, maybe even more so than I remembered, so the extreme embarrassment that is the writing doesn't bother me that much.
On the topic of Nintendo buying Xenosaga, I saw some discussion over Xenogears and how Square Enix isn't likely to sellThat's true but it's not as unlikely as you thinkThey literally sold multiple Eidos IPs (including Tomb Raider) and three studios to Embracer for corporate chump changeAmazon paid more to LICENSE Tomb Raider aloneAgain I don't think it's likely but it's not impossible
>>744573063It's an endgame tier list...
>>744573197Yes but why would Nintendo buy it? Xenosaga is at least marketable and Nintendo fans are somewhat interested in it since bamco allowed so many collabs in Xenoblade and Project X Zone. By comparison Xenogears does not even have the coom appeal.
>>744573197They didn't buy it.
>>744573330Yeah yeah we don't have full confirmation and I'll believe when I see it as well but the absence of copyright info in the credits now is still weird
>0 T-Elos or KOS-MOS animationsHow disappointing.
19 minutes is a good time, no?
>>744573980>19 minutes is a good time, no?That's the same game where you can kill the strongest superboss(in main game) in 30 seconds dude.
>>744573980Dawg you are shit at this.
>>744572332>The strongest sword in 3She is too powerful.
>>744546545>pandy clear glassesdisgusting
>>744574796How does she do itHow will Genesis make her even stronger?
>>744574882Simp director
>>744547929PLEASE NOTE THAT THESE ARE ONE-OF-A-KIND ITEMS NOT AVAILABLE FOR SALE :^^^^^^)
>>744548412Japanese people desperately trying and failing to sing in German because sawano is a krautaboo
>>744547929Probably one of employees or his kid
>>744571725God I love big milk filled titties
>>744575253The German songs sound funny, I like them
>>744575347Please kill yourself.
>>744575509Never
>>744575465It tracks with the vibe of the rest of the OST in all fairness
>>744574882No way she is in XenoG.
>>744576141They WILL reference her and Shulk one way or another, just you watch.
>>744575579what a funny gif
>>744557909>horrendous voice actingXenoblade 2 has some of the greatest voice acting in the entire JRPG genre thoughbeit
>>74456264030€ DLC for convenience.They should have sold the items separately
>>744577494>Boreas is HaruhikekAlso I'm pretty sure anon meant the >dub
Mythra My Beloved65 hours played so far on a new saveI fucking love this game
>>744576178They will reference Melia dying alone. And thati's it.
>>744577494didn't know tora, morag and floren all had reverse gender VAs in japanese
>>744577881Boreas too. He's male
>>744541580It is cringe. Xenoblade 3 won
>>744577494>Obrona also plays MammonThat's legitimately hilarious.
>>744577881Mitsuki Saiga is a woman.
Stupid sexy Alvis.
>>744578626I don't care, bros. A's probably the hottest FR character. Her voice work is... phenomenal.
>>744557961
>>744578626
>>744541896qrd?
>>744578626>>744579194>>744578969She is hottest xenogirl full stop for me. I really wish she got a figure but the DLC got memory holed way too fast
>>744541580It's the best oneTorna > 2 > the hugest powergap ever > 1 > 3DLC > 3 > Powergap > X > 1 DLC
>>744577494Kenjiro Tsuda blew up to become a really big shot since XB2
>>744580025He's just so cool.
>>744580025>Kaibaman>not in high demand since foreverBruh
T-Elos, Perun and A.Thoughts?
>>744580025He's literally Kaiba
>>744579785I'm still really glad that Eunie got a figma before Xenoblade 3 merch just stopped.
>>744580171Is the flat brown woman sandwiched between the two big titty brown women?
>>744548229Go back to Assassin's Creed
>>744580184>>744580091It wasn't until like 2020 his name started going into super stardom
>>744580171Yummy.
>>744548412Good exploration, cool world, broken as hell combat once you get how it works (I personally see that as a good thing), iffy everything else
>>744548502>garbage musiclmao fuck off
>>744580558Oh wait, the quests are good on average too, just wish they had better design but at least the ministories are good enough to make up for it
>>744549449This is not true. They are still in the credits
>>744580171Add Emeralda and Elma.Takahashi is a BASED brown woman with white hair conoisseur
>>744548412awful plot, horrible not memorable character designs, the worst quests in xenoblade history but hey you can fly around with a mech
I CAN'T FEEL YOUI CAN'T HEAR YOU
>>744581396But enough about Xenoblade 2
>>744581497It's I CAN'T SEE YOU
>>744581515Xenoblade has a flyable mechs?
>>744581757Sirens are flyable
I just got the game and this might be a minor nitpick but is there a way to stop the other characters from just throwing themselves off cliffs, its kind of immersion breaking
>>744581396This faggot probably hates pizza. Loser.
>>744577673Obsessed.
What do I do with all the fucking money at the end of the game/in NG+? I just spent some minutes cleaning out all the junk from my accessory inventory just so it's easier to navigate when changing equipment and now I have another cool million bux.
>Obses-LURP
>>744582626Schizo
>>744582626i want a sloppy mellyjob
>>744582571money and shops are such non mechanics in all of these games
I don't think they are but they should. Gacha blades and field skills are complete dogshit.
>>744541580The game could not be made today. Thank goodness it was release just before everyone lost their minds censoring everything.
The welsh cat girls ears are backwards and it's so stupid looking and it pisses me off
>>744582982FLORA HEALS AN ACHING SOUL
>>744572161>You don't start with the game asking you to go online.I get asked every time I start up the game.
>>744582982people do not hate the field skills enough
>>744552194I was playing for hours over the weekend and realized it'd been awhile since I saved. I didn't lose anything but I was pushing my luck. It also saves whenever you pull a summon.
>>744541875The kid on the right was actually underaged btw.
>>744555765needs the one of a kind pyra Mythra dolls
>>744583757I heard they didn't fix the memory leak so better save as much as you can.
>>744569160Surprised to see Pandoria that high. Last time I heard she was agreed to be mediocre. Unless this is NG+ with shining eye of justice unlocked.
>>744571584I assume you mean only for true end END game stuff(BoC challenge mode) and hyper optimization. I've played through this game three times and have pretty easily beaten all Super Bosses w/ everyone carrying three blades. Granted I never bothered w/ BoC stuff because it didn't particularly interest me at the time but I'll get around to when I get the Switch 2 version.
>>744586026>Unless this is NG+ with shining eye of justice unlocked.Yea. She isn't good otherwise.
>>744586058>I've played through this game three times and have pretty easily beaten all Super Bosses w/ everyone carrying three bladesYou can, the game isn't hard in the first place. But AI party members will be more useful with 1, max 2 blades.
where the fuck can i find the 3.0.0 update to download for my emu
>they can't keep their dead general alive so they came back to /v/ to post daily bait threadshahahahahahahahahahahahahah
>>744547854Yeah, i remember hating it when they JPEG'd them in a Switch patch so they would load better.
>>744582743>Mom Dead >Your escort dies right in front of you>Dad dies right in front of her from getting ruthlessly impaled>Set up to almost be assasinated >Most of your race gets transformed into Telethia killing machines>Forced to kill brother>Crush doesn't reciprocate your feelings >Captured and strung up to be used as a battery for 1000 years and forced to watch the world go to shitI love Melia bros. She stays strong despite all this shit...
>>744582626>>744582743>>744586594Obsessed.
Are they going to fix this audio mixing issue? The sound effects are insanely loud and drown everything out. I can barely hear the battle music over the sound of smacking the enemy and the footstep noises are super distracting at times. I had to turn the voices up in cutscenes too because they were too quiet. I’d almost rather play the old version just so everything sounds right.
>>744587785The original version already had bad audio mixing.
>>744587785Go into audio, press the reset to default button, then change the settings.That helps a bit, seems like the S2 version has some weird hidden defaults that only get overriden if you do the reset thing.
>>744582982People only hate field skills because they ignored them and didn’t level anything up like retards until they got stuck.
>>744587829Well they fucked it up even worse than before.>>744587895Thanks, I’ll try this. That’s bizarre if true though. What reason could they possibly have to do this?
>>744587974people hated field skills because it forced you to grind blade affinities, certain Field skills are tied to rare blades so you need to grind core crystals to get those certain Field skills, and then you had to constantly open the menu when XB2 already has one of the worst UX in modern JRPGs. Which all just leads to a context sensitive prompt to activate. And after all that the reward is just gank you wasted your time for.
>>744587974Field skills only exasperated the excessive menuing this game had. The way it is now is the way it should have been from the start.
>>744588741NTA but first I thought it was going to make it brain dead easy but then realized... no, this is how it should've been.
>Salvaging Mastery caps at 21>just using the 7 rare blades is enough>they'll just keep activating until the last oneBetter release those common blades with that skill or they're gonna make salvaging take longer.
why the fuck does my Vandham have 95K WP on a new playthrough?
>>744555801This bitch looks like Elly from Xenogears
>>744589087A bug I thinkPeople are also losing accessory slots in NG+ if they use amiibo
>>744589095She's called Eleanor so it's intentional.
>>744589451i must...i must CORRECT HER
god this game is unplayable before arts cancel spam
>>744587974I'm not a fan of shit that goes "you need to be this tall to enter this ride"It sucked in XBX and it sucks in XB2, they were mostly acceptable in XB3 because they were one-and-done in that game, no need to check every time you want to climb vines or go up a sandy hill or slide down a rope
>>744589095How?
>>744541580I haven't played that one but I played X and I was embarrassed for them so I'm not surprised
>>744589028Salvaving is bullshit.Do a perfect on gold, get 2 chests 4 grey items on the ground and 3 mobsFuck up last input again on gold, get 3 goldchests 10 items mix of purple orange and no mob
I'm thinking about giving this game another go, dropped because I didn't like that blade gacha shit and swapping them mid battle, can I just ignore that?
How did Rex become an absolute fucking unit in FR?He's more muscular than any other character in the series
>>744590386Nigga, that's the combat system, watch the cutscenes on youtube if you don't want to play the game.
Dub Mythra is just Mori Calliope (cringe).
>>744590386Those are both core systems so hard to ignore them really.
>>744590475He has 3 needy women to satisfy every night, you think he'd survive if he wasn't an absolute fucking unit?
>>744590591
>>744590475he fucked 3 hot bitches, if I could eo that I would go to the gym like him
Finally got Tank Mod III after hours of grinding Tiger Tiger. Now I can finally play the game.
>>744573980As long as you did a lot of driver combos and got a lot of legendary core crystals, you're good.
>>744547951Shulk's model and facial expressions somehow got worse from 4 to Ultimate. Not really sure what happened there.In general Ultimate also has a worse color palette and more washed out colors too.
Was Rex not satisfied with just Pyra and Mythra? Fiora was enough for Shulk and he didn't fuck Melia too and Noah just seemed fine with Mio (but he didn't have many options anyway).
>>744590475Takahashi needed to satisfy self-inserters
>>744590591100% accurate. She literally just sounds like some random american (awful). What the fuck were they thinking?
>>744590475This shit was garbage shota got destroyed because westoids were crying about shota.
Other nitpicks I hope Genesis will improve upon (& should have been patched to even the S1 version of XC2):- The game is too chatty to the point that voice clips overlap when collecting crap and in battle. They should have tons of clips for this shit since it adds a lot of flavor but they need to be more careful with how they play them back. Fire only one voice clip followed by a small pause and use a shuffle algorithm to avoid repetition. An option to adjust the pause between voices would be great too.- Option to show subtitle toasts for all the voice clips. Tokyo Xanadu eX+ and probably some other Falcom games did this. An essential option for us kimono dudes playing the game in a language we don't understand. Also good for cripples and ESLs. Ideally have three separate options for battle, field skill activation and post battle banter.
>>744590780Obsessed.
>>744590761
>>744590998Why is it everytime Melia is mentioned this schizo says "obsessed"?
>>744590379If you have lvl21 on Salvaging Mastery, you can fuck up and still get everything with 0 monsters.
>>744590916I think she’s actually from the UK or something just doing an American accent. That’s why it sounds kind of off sometimes I assume.
>>744591158Why do you, schizo, keep bringing up Melia in conversations that have absolutely nothing to do with her?
>>744591158Because (You) are absolutely obsessed with her. Seems pretty simple to me.
>>744590761>In general Ultimate also has a worse color palette and more washed out colors too.I disagree with this because I always thought the smash 4 was overly saturated
>>744568465Tsuki is a blessing. They talk about her body design but her VA is the real deal. Same as Kagutsuchi.
>>744569412>Dagas casually pulling a chair from his ass and aura farming just because peasants got him bored.It's the little details.Xenoblade 2 has soul
>>744548412UHYEAHUHYEAHAHUH AHUH AHUH AHUHUHYEAHUHYEAHHHHAHUHAHUH
I want Mythra to be my mom
>>744591359>>744591396Seems like you guys are obsessed. Just because someone brings her up doesn't mean they are obsessed. Stop being fucking retards.
>>744592098Very bizarre at first but the track grew on me
>>744592158>brings her up randomly out of nowhere in literally every thread >"I-I'm totally not obsessed!!"Schizo
>>744592158>Just because someone brings her up doesn't mean they are obsessed.It does when they do it every single fucking day, like (You) do.
>>744570895Anything that has a cute Loli these days is Loli propaganda and predator behavior. Disregard that thunder Loli, ice Loli and the few other shotas and lolis shown are cute as a button and not sexualized in any way. The only one that is sexualized is POPPI and Masterpon gets chewed out for that several times. What no pussy does to a mo mo mofo, mo.
>>744590591>>>/vt/ranny
>>744592356Seriously get fucking help. There's nothing wrong w/ asking why they made Rex get a harem and they never had Shulk or Noah have other potential partners shown throughout the games. What the fuck is wrong with you? You Do know that /v/ isn't just one person or is that to strange a concept for a retard like yourself?
>>744592596You get help, obsessed schizo.
>>744592596>There's nothing wrong w/ asking why they made Rex get a harem and they never had Shulk or Noah have other potential partners shown throughout the games.You've asked this a billion times and you've gotten your answers already. You're just shitting on Melia again because you're fucking obsessed.
>>744577494>>744591896
You guys need to stop giving (You)s to this mentally ill weirdo. You can't fix these people. On another, much smaller image board there's one guy who's been targeting a handful of topics like this for at least a decade, noon till early morning almost every day.
>>744592643Ok anon, keep being retarded and assuming everyone is the same person. The person showing her sucking a dick and me asking the question about the harem stuff are clearly the same people.
>>744592719>I-I'm not him!!!"hahahahahahahahah
>>744592717Aren't all topics regarding Xenoblade been done to death at this point?
>>744592717Yes, we need to stop giving (You)s to this weirdo: >>744591158>>744590780>>744582626>>744577673
>>744592715WE WAS BUSHIDO N SHIIIEET
I hate that most things on the affinity charts are not retroactive. I have to do zenobia's and I am just not looking forward to revisiting old places to fight the unique enemies. I'll probably save her for the ng+.
>>744592773>I'm retardedI know.
>>744573079I'm 42, and as the years go by I actually embraced Anime tropes, stopped cringing and now thorough enjoying games and animes that would make.me.vomit when I was more "mature and sophisticated". I can still recognize actual kino from Romcom/powerfantasy slop but now I watch and enjoy them both. If you love Shonens, romcoms and gag mangas its almost impossible to not love XBC2
>>744592919Why are you quoting yourself?
>>744591158Some people hate when she is brought up, for some reason.
>>744592995You only bring her up to shit on her, obsessed schizo.
>>744592826Anon I'm only one of those people (the one about Rex). I am asking this seriously and call me a newfag or w/e you want by why is bringing her up a taboo when I mentioned Mio in that very same sentence?
>>744591158>>744592995Samefag
>>744555516Why doesn't Takahashi talk about his games subjectively as much as he used to?He doesn't give interviews nearly as much as he did and he tries to stay objective and leave his own opinions out of it.There's next to nothing out there about how he personally feels about Xenoblade 3, but there's loads of random lines from interviews of him expressing frustration over Xenoblade 1.
>>744593108>>744593035
>>744593229Who the fuck cares?
>>744593267Someone who wants to hear a creator's opinions on his creations?Why are you sperging out at that post?
>>744593108We just discussed it to death and didn't come to any conclusion. And there was the actual schizo. >>744593229Takahashi is on the corpo side now.
>>744593124Next you are going to claim Photoshop right? Go ahead and confirm you're a retard anon.
>>744548229Wait, I could say that about Xenoblade 1, which had very little reward for exploring and not many waypoints.2 had smaller maps, more waypoints and at least they had chests too.
>>744593527Well ok, fine then. I just find it interesting the most initially kinda lame looking protag for the harem ending over the other two.
>>744593534Yeah I also know how to use inspect element
>>744593678That has nothing to do with Melia, obsessed schizo
>>744547929IIRC one of the Monolith Soft employee is a girl that's really good at sewing plushies and the like who made a lot of Nopon plushes, including one used as the avatar of their Japanese social media account. Wouldn't surprised me if she was the one that made the Pythra plushes.
>>744548412Not a different world but a whole different planet.You better stay quick with your guns and cannons.
>>744593678Well, Shulk loved only Fiora for 14 years, Melia moved on anyway and MS called Xenoblade a "story about Shulk and Fiora". Any reasoning beyond this is just an assumption which can't be confirmed.Let's leave it at this.
>>744593723Anon, I'm not sure what's so hard to follow. >Initial point brought up about Rex getting three girls>Question about why the other two weren't potentially written to have a harem if they had no problems making Rex fuck three girls>Aiiiiee schizo>Another Anon answers it's a tired subject>Close it off with okay but it's interesting/funny that the protag everyone clowned out got the most pussy There you follow? It's not hard. This is your last (you)
>>744593229>>744593527Takahashi's never been a very public person, and Xenogears, Xenosaga, and to a lesser extent early Xenoblade (let's define it as before the remaster era and before XB3) were personal to him and generally still niche/cult classics until after Xenoblade 2's popularity.He was more talkative and personal about his beliefs and philosophies and what he liked and disliked while talking about Xenogears all the way through to Xenoblade 2 because he didn't really have to tip-toe around potentially upsetting or letting down fans, and the core audience he garnered through Xenogears and Xenosaga stuck with him specifically because of his writing style and interests that seeped into the games.He doesn't really do that anymore and keeps his personal thoughts largely to himself when publicly talking about these games, because otherwise retards will dig up him doomposting over Xenoblade 1 and use it as fuel in shitposting wars.
>>744594097>This is your last (you)Yeah go on and run away retard. Concession accepted.
Didn't read. Posting Homura.
>>744594146I didn't read a lot of his interviews. What did he dislike about Xenoblade 1?I only read that he was dissatisfied with people praising it too much with barely any criticism.
>>744594290>Homura
>>744594290>>744594382kill yourself
>>744594456*seppuku
>>744594290>>744594382I’m still convinced these are people from a discord server replying to each other.
>>744594331There's an old interview from the early 2010s where he goes on that Xenoblade 1 was never intended to be this critically acclaimed magnum opus and that he begrudgingly conceded and held back on writing the kinds of characters and themes he likes to write because morale at Monolith Soft was really low over Xenosaga failing and was only written and paced the way it was because they needed a "success" even if it meant making a much more straightforward shonen game, and he was really disappointed that Xenoblade 1 became his most successful game (at the time).I'm not sure if he changed his opinions or not because I can't grasp why he sucks off Xenoblade 2 almost a decade later when Xenoblade 2 in theory should embody everything he disliked about Xenoblade 1 ten fold.
Do we have enough confidence in the writing team to think Eleanor will be a good protag? Pyra/Mythra were pretty strong writing wise and Mio was too even though I've seen some sane she was boring (I think that applies more to Noah). Fiora was kinda weak on the writing end but at least she was cute. Given the highs and lows of FR and Chapter 13 of X, do we have anything to worry about?
>>744594660>Mio was too even though I've seen some sane she was boring (I think that applies more to Noah). It applies to both of them
>>744541580They are on XB3. Not 2. Nintendo forced them at gun point to make 3. They did not want it. Thats why 3 is shit and has shitty characters.
>>744594958What made her boring to you? I thought she had just the right amount of emotion, occasional humor and boldness compared to Noah who was kind of muted.
>>744594660This might be a controversial opinion but Monolith Soft hasn't written a truly compelling female protagonist or deuteragonist since Xenosaga.This isn't to say that Fiora, Pyra/Mythra, Elma, Lora, Mio or A are bad, but they don't really compare to Elly or Shion/KOS-MOS.A large part of this is because of Soraya Saga not being involved with Xenoblade.I don't think Eleanor will be a terrible protagonist but I assume she's going to be very boring at best, or a poorly realized Shion clone at worst.
>>744595092The only things she cares about are Noah and flutes. She's boring >occasional humor ????
>>744595141>Fiora>protagonist
>>744594660>Do we have enough confidence in the writing team to think Eleanor will be a good protag?Yes. Takahashi has never written a bad game yet and knows how to write great female characters (Elly, Emeralda, Shion, Elma, Mythra, etc.) so I have 0 reason to doubt him.
>>744595259>reading comprehension
>>744595294She's not a deuteragonist either. She's absent for half of the story
>>744595224The stuff w/ her hair, her being super uncomfortable in the heat, her w/ the baby and being so fascinated telling everyone else to join in. Things like that work to not make her completely flat IMO like Noah felt a lot of the time outside of the prison stuff. There was other stuff like her punching the Moebius after the Ethel/Camm fight help her stand out s bit.
>>744595696You consider those things "humor"?Stuff like her liking babies is just textbook anime heroine tropes.
>>744595141Granted I don't remember much about Xenosaga since I haven't played through those games since High School but I do remember liking Shion in 1-2 (though not really like 2 itself) but hating her in 3. Some of that probably has to do w/ me being a retarded teen and not seeing nuance. I can't remember much about KOS-MOS other than Mary ended up inhabiting her.
>>744595390Look faggot, I'm not here to play word games with you. You've understood whatever point I was trying to make without semantics. Whatever pretend argument you think you're fighting for internet points, you've won. Don't respond to me or my wife's son ever again.
>>744596026Concession accepted, retard.
>>744595390Does Takahashi actually have a Fiora bias? I've seen it mentioned before. I never got the impression he truly favoured any girls over the others, except maybe Sharla and Sena. They got fucked. Sena felt especially egregious given all the Shania stuff.
>>744596209>Does Takahashi actually have a Fiora bias?....yes? Is this a serious question?Melia gets treated like garbage in every game she appears in
>>744596209Maybe not Takahashi himself but someone in high position definitely does.Initially the story was about friendship between Shulk and Ryan but they turned it into story about Shulk and Fiora.The only Xenoblade character who appeared in Project x ZoneBroken gameplaywise in both Xenoblade 1 and Xenoblade 2Appears in Shulk's ult in Smash, her spirit is 4 startsDon't even try to hide her roboform because it's supoosed to be a selling point of her charactter.Probably something else I forgot.
>>744596527>they turned it into story about Shulk and Fiora.She's absent for half of the game. Cope.
>>744590761I should clarify. I do think they look accurate, Sakurai was fucking merciless about getting the girls just right, but they're way simplified. I dunno why I'm expecting the 3D depth eyes but it's really noticeable when they're missing.
>>744595224The sole reason she cares about the flutes is because of her initial survivor's guilt over Miyabi, she didn't give a fuck about offseering in her flashback and the entire crux of her character for the first half of the game is coming to terms with her impeding death.It's equivalent to ignoring the in-game context and stripping Fiora and Pyra's characters down to Shulk and Meyneth, and Rex and suicide.
>>744596527>but someone in high position definitely does.>but they turned it into story about>her spirit is 4 startsESL saar
>>744596672Everyone in the party has someone they lost. It doesn't make Mio interesting or unique.
>>744596651>We originally pitched the game as a story about two inseparable heroes with clashing personalities, but in the end, our priorities shifted to making the player care about Shulk and Fiora’s relationship, and Reyn sort of fell by the wayside
>>744596209Sena gets Segiri's story and the entirety of Colony 0, she's not remotely underutilized
>>744596527I guess from that standpoint yeah. I've always judged the quality/screetime of a characters writing a direct connection to the creators like of the character. To me Fiora had a cute personality, but that was it . You could argue that her getting Meyneth was pure favoritism, but writing still felt weaker than a Melia, Pyra/Mythra and Mio. Hell probably even Eunie too.
>Fiora is the favorite>Meanwhile Melia is a major character in 3 and is the protagonist of FC.
>>744596672>It's equivalent to ignoring the in-game context and stripping Fiora down to Shulk and MeynethLmao. Cope
>>744596943>FCThe part of Xenoblade everyone hates the most
>>744596897>our priorities shifted to making the player care about Shulk and Fiora’s relationshipimplying anyone cares about that
Any EUfags want my Torna DLC bonus code? I bought a physical version years ago but didnt see that it wasn't a US copy and when I tried putting in the code it didnt work. Not just throwing it out there so first come first serve, use phoney email or whatever method youd before and attach it to your post.
>>744596943There's no contradiction here, retard.
>>744541580>Still 720p and 368p What in the fuck were they thinking
Is Xenoblade x good if I've only played Chronicles?
>>744596930>You could argue that her getting Meyneth was pure favoritism, but writing still felt weaker than a Melia, Pyra/Mythra and Mio. Hell probably even Eunie too.Being poorly written and being a writer's pet are not mutually exclusive, so your point doesn't make any sense.
>>744596909Well to be fair, it has been a long time since I've played through the game. Seregi was robo loli right?
>>744548412Best open world exploration ever
>>744596865Neither Eunie or Sena lost anyone. It's starting to sound like you didn't play the game.
How did we never get a Fiora scale figure?
>>744597215Eunie lost Joran and Sena lost Miyabi
>>744594597>why he sucks off Xenoblade 2 almost a decade later when Xenoblade 2 in theory should embody everything he disliked about Xenoblade 1 ten fold.Because in one of the interviews he said that he added everything he wanted into the game.
>>744597261She isn't popular enough for that.
>>744596930She's weaker because in the terms of the plot she's an afterthought, it's not like Vanea or anyone else expected Fiora to reassert herself, her body was meant to be a meat puppet. I think her personality is plenty strong but the writing for her is still a kind of collective "oh shit, what the fuck do we even do with this girl" kind of thing between all the other characters except for Shulk, who will sooner die than let her go again
>>744597335>think her personality is plenty strong Her "personality" is just being Shulk's girlfriend
>>744596982Fiora was the damsel, Melia is the actual heroine, good point.
>>744597261They couldn't even make Riki plushies back then.
>>744597129Yup, the whole thing is Sena finally finding a purpose for herself even if it's just to be a big sister to her and the colony, fighting so they can have their own lives
Is it OK to get MOMO early or is she meant to be gotten later? I already have her but not sure if it was a mistake or not.
>>744597459I didn't know hope this helps
>>744597459If they let you have her earlier then it's fine.
>>744597095X is basically unrelated to 1-3 so go nuts.
>>744597095Help I've got money to burn
>>744597459She's not that great so it's whatever.
>>744597418Christ, why the fuck hasn't GS made a Mecha-Fiora statue, there's so many armor options they could pick for various levels of lewd/cool/cute, but then again I could be asking that in general, they should have nendos out the ass of all the girls, figmas of at least the Aegises and Rex, Shulk and Fiora or Melia, I genuinely don't get why they're holding back, that shit would print money
>>744596865But their reactions are unique, namely because of how those deaths played out? Mio's story is not the same as Taion's, who is not the same as Lanz and so one.
>>744597775>implying Taion and Lanz have any character development lol lmao
>>744597743>why the fuck hasn't GS made a Mecha-Fiora statueShe isn't popular so it wouldn't well. See>>744597315
>>744597459She's a blitzball so it doesn't matter when you get her, she's always got to suck unless you keep her exclusively on Zeke
takahashi probably doesn’t know english that well but I do kind of believe soraya saga lurks these threads (or used to)
>>744597967Taion learns to unclench his butthole and to love the cloaca, both of them have to accept forgiving themselves for shit that happened that was largely out of their hands. Lanz has a serious need to sacrifice himself for a good chunk of the game
>>744594597>when Xenoblade 2 in theory should embody everything he disliked about Xenoblade 1 ten fold.That isn't really true, the characters for example are already more complex compared to what you could find in 1 or X and closer to his older games.Before people blow a fuse I'm not saying they are better or whatever, just that their mental states, psychology, thought processes, etc are significantly more explored, akin to the older games. Contrast Pyra/Mythra with Fiora or the main antagonists.2 is also where they really started pushing the pedal to the metal when it came to rescuing old concepts. You could argue 1 and X had whiffs of it but 2 is where they lost their inhibitions.
>>744598464>Taion learns to unclench his butthole and to love the cloacaThe most basic cookie cutter "development" I've ever heard Eunie x Taion isn't even canon
>>744597459She's clearly designed for newfags. She has skills that make chain attacks easier and she also increases the drop rate of items
>>744598447Why? I believe her when she says she has nothing to do with the property outside of whatever she did for Gorg, honestly that girl is ill-equipped for the internet, I wish she'd stop paying attention to what people say and just post goofy fanart and obscure trivia about the Figaro brothers
>>744598447Meds
>walk outside by the pool>Sena looks at you and does thisHow do you respond
>>744591158Smelia
>>744598902Go to the doctor immediately, I am hallucinating a fictional character making sexual advances at me; clearly some medication and further professional help is necessary as my grip on reality has slipped entirely
>>744598902Slap cheeks or pull fabric, you ask stupid questions
>>744577494I literally don't recognise anyone on this chart.
>>744598902turn 360 degrees and walk away
>>744598902Fuck off, whore. Where's my wife, Shania?
>>744577494I don't know who 99% of those characters are nor do I care, I play with EN voices.
>>744577494>Main cast>pretty small VAsAt least Dunban was voiced by Bejita
>>744599235Not shitting on you or anything, but what do you find attractive about Shania? I personally never once looked at her with any thoughts of sexo. Guess everyone has a type.
>>744599463Metal Face was Cell IIRC
>>744599235>ShaniaThe worst girl in the entire series.
>>744599587He's a contrarian faggot.
>>744598447We know she used to, given that she exposed herself, quoting a comment from /v/ word for word on Twitter and she later deleted this post. Also, she used to lurk the Jojo SBR threads on /a/
>>744598984Obsessed schizo.
>>744598902
>>744599769Why is she still posting?
>>744599587nta but I like crazy evil girls, I had a chub whenever she went full schizo school shooter modeHopefully Genesis has a good female bad guy, this is an area Xeno has struggled with after Miang in Xenogears
Reminder that Melia had a much, much worse life than Shania did, but Melia never turned evil.
Great shitpost thread my fellow /vg/ refugees! See you in the next one!!
>>744594660I mean, I guess. I don't exactly play Xenoblade for amazing female characters but I have no reason to doubt the team.
>>744600283>but I have no reason to doubt the team.XC3 is more than enough of a reason
>>744600352>XC2*
>>744600432*XC3
>>744600496Xenoblade Chronicles 2*
>>744600283They're way better than most other JRPGS at least.
>>744600546Xenoblade Chornicles 3*
>>744600563Only Nia and Elma are good.
>>744595141>a poorly realized Shion clone at worst.Shes gonna be this, like how Noah was Temu Fei
Last for Nia a shit