What are the realistic alternatives to Windows for gaming in the big 26? After a couple weeks with SteamOS, I think I can say it's not gonna cut it for me. The OS is fast and lean which is a nice change of pace from Windows, but it's ridiculously locked down and hand-holdy(which I guess makes sense since it's basically a console OS first)
Windows 7 with VxKex
CachyOS
>>744542139I dislike Linux but I hate Windows with a passion, enough to daily drive Kubuntu for probably over a year at this point. It's friendly enough that I've never learned bash or the file structure or anything because I've never needed to, and KDE Plasma looks pretty much the same as Windows, but better. Anyways for gaming I've had little to no issues. Almost all games run perfectly using Proton 9 or 10, and the ones that didn't (maybe two out of one hundred) I was able to run by just reading what other people did on protondb. In fact pretty much the only games that can't run on Linux are the ones BUILT to NOT run, i.e. Destiny 2 and League of Legends, whose developers purposefully block Linux users from running their games. Also no forced updates, FUCK YOU OBAMA! YOU FUCKING NIGGER!
>>744542139The problem is that most fun games require an anti-cheat and they only run on windows, until that changes there is really no alternative. Most anti-cheats still run on windows 10, which is much less jeetefied than Hindus 11. Thankfully, linux is slowly Catching up and maybe we will be able to switch completely at the end of the decade.
the concord distro
>>744542139There are none. Microsoft could release a gutted version of Windows 11 with all the critical modern advancements and none of the bloat. Leaving intact high compatibility with 32-bit software and such. They could call it "Windows Gaming Edition" or something and sell it for $300. It'd sell like crazy. I don't know why they don't.
>>744543440>The problem is that most fun games require an anti-cheatLiterally not a single game worth playing in history has required discrete anti cheat software. The fact that there is a population of players who go through great lengths to cheat is in itself an indictment that the game is not fun
Which version of Linux is braindead simple and can run games, emulators and pirated programs?
Nintendo switch
>>744543640none, you need a certain level of computer skill for all of them
>>744543569would they go through great lengths if it wasn't fun in the first place?
>>744543559It would sell like crazy because it'd be installed on PCs and laptops by default. Normies don't CHOOSE to use Windows, they just buy computers with Windows preinstalled. >>744543640The most just-works distro:>https://kubuntu.org/
>>744543640bazzite
Windows 7Windows 10
>>744542139Depends on your goals>I want to play games>>>/tg/>I want to play computer gamesLiterally any computer>I want to play more than a couple dozen computer gamesLinux>I want to play specifically this computer game that is only supported on Windows... ReactOS? If your games are XP-compatible?
>>744543384What does Obama have to do with forced updates?
>>744542139any linux distro
>>744543559>It'd sell like crazy. I don't know why they don't.Because telemetry data sells like crazy too
>>744542843Seconding CachyOS, the only problem I've had with it whatsoever was a frame-pacing issue in Nioh 3's demo and The Binding of Isaac Rebirth (Repentance) needing to pick a different Proton version than its default
>>744543559Win11 LTSC IoT is the one I use, has all the critical modern advancements and none of the bloat and you can disable useless shit with group police editor.
>>744544320https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kwO69OEjQE
okay can someone answer without that characteristic linux user smugness what to actually use if you want to play most shit and use programs like ableton, blender, adobe programs etc? thats all i want and if i smell a single pixel of smug faggotry from your post im bailing the thread and asking a random AI instead as its 97% more useful than most anons on this board. sell it to me as someone who is used to windows pre-enshittification.
>>744544320Old meme reference, newfag
>>744542139>realistic alternativesThere are none
>>744544746Outdated
>>744544724There is nothing, just learn to get used to Windows 11 and debloat it as much as you can and choose toThere is no "magical" alternative and the only thing even close is getting a MacLinux is shit, always has been and always will be. There is a reason most linuxfags dual boot
>>744543559Because that would go against why windows exists in the first place. It is not an operating system, it is an information harvesting platform masquarading as an operating system. Everything that sits on top of the data harvesting is to distract from this fact, to obfuscate it. They give you these little options and sliders to give you the illusion that you can actually stop it, but we know now with the GDID that it is fundamentally impossible to stop windows from spying on you and harvesting your data. Why? Because that is where the real money is. They make INSANE amounts of money selling as much information as they can about you to advertisers. A lot of companies these days also do this.
>>744545031>There is a reason most linuxfags dual bootthe only reason people who use linux ever dualboot or run a VM has nothing to do with windows, it is because a piece of software they want to use was written to only work with windows. If that software had been written better and not been so locked down, it would not be a problem. No one actually WANTS to use windows. The more that people can get away with just using wine to use windows applications on linux the more linux usage goes up and the more windows usage goes down. You are not fooling anyone but yourself.
>>744543640I think even Debian has basic emulators for genesis/snes at this point. Assuming you don't run into that one driver issue. I hear they have ways to run programs outside the default manager now too, didn't try them..good luck if you do.
>>744542139DOS, XP, 7, Linux, any console from PS4 backwards.
There is literally nothing wrong with Windows 11
>>744545383>the only reason people who use linux ever dualboot or run a VM has nothing to do with windows, it is because a piece of software they want to use was written to only work with windows.So it literally has everything to do with Windows
>>744542139Gentoo
>>744546183RetardIf people actually wanted to use windows then its marketshare wouldn't be going down as it's slowly being obsoleted
>>744543440>The problem is that most fun games require an anti-cheatIt's really only those big multiplayer shooters that require anticheat (Fortnite, Apex, etc.). I don't play any of those games so I've had 0 issues on Linux. And it's not like I only have single-player games, both Warframe and FFXIV run just fine.
>>744542139Niggas buy AMD CPU they arent the brightest in the room in the first place.
>>744545383What have you achieved by being a dualboot Windows other than boosting fake usage metrics for le gud os? If you dualboot to Windows...You're a Windows user. You didn't manage to avoid using Windows. You're using it with added steps. Just skip a step and boot directly to Windows to run your program.
>>744543559The telemetry/AI training data is worth more than whatever you would pay up front for the OS
>>744546594Then why is there software that is written to only be used with Windows?
>>744544724If you want to be able to run everything with no issues, Windows is really your only option. The question is if you think it's worth having Satya Nadella having access to everything you type.
>>744546594>The original LCD Steam Deck was released on February 25, 2022
>>744546183You are legitimately retarded. Is it windows's fault that software is written specifically for OSX/macOS and CANNOT be used on windows?
>>744547039Because back then Microsoft has nepotistically raped the pc marketAnd we're only now seeing a recovery Of course that doesn't prevent Stockholm syndrome rape victims like you from liking the dick so they hold onto that inertia
>>744547039Because it has been the default for so long thats just what everyone uses. They have had extremely sucessful market share for a long time simply through advertising and extremely dubious tactics against their competition. In fact, when linux first came out they did everything they could to sabotage it. Once they realized they couldnt, they shifted to literally having microsoft employees contribute to the linux kernel, presumably to try to subtly enthittify it from the inside.
>>744546867>saar... please... redeem vindows bare metal ok... dont run :(
>>744547130and it's 21.3% of that Linux userbase
>>744546867i have a dualboot with windows because I have a single piece of software that my university requires (lockdown browser+respondus), which is essentially a spyware application that lets them take control of your computer and make sure you dont do anything they dont want you to during testing. It is extremely invasive and legitimately spyware, and beacuse of this it is incompatible with linux. In fact it is so invasive, even trying to run it through a VM is a risk because if they catch you doing anything fishy they can just expel you from your uni.I do this because I have to, because this shitty piece of spyware that my university requires I use for online courses will not work with linux, nor should it.
>>744547178So your saying that the reason a software developer focuses on the OS with a 90 percent market share instead of a single digit user base OS is because they were "nepotistically raped" and have stockholm syndrome?
>>744546594>Six percent in six yearsYEAR OF THE LINUX IN 80 YEARS BROS!!!WE DID IT!
>>744547468im NTA but yes. people generally dislike new things and they are so used to using windows that they mere idea of a different operating system causes a nervous breakdown for most. Like even going from windows to mac is hard for a lot of people, even when mac does its fucking best to be as dumbed down and baby proof as possible.
If you aren't using Nobara linux at this point you might be retarded.
>>744547620>Nobarawhy would I use nobara over fedora though?
>>744547605>they are so used to using windows that they mere idea of a different operating system causes a nervous breakdown for most.It's not that, it's just that windows is what comes preinstalled on their computers. 90% of people don't really give a fuck what OS they're using.
>>744547136It's not about 'fault'. If an app is written for OSX/macOS, yes It has everything to do with Mac. (I can acknowledge that Mac has those apps going for them and Windows doesn't.) You're saying if an app is written for Windows, it has nothing to do with Windows...somehow. I won't say Windows is actually great and blame it on Mac for making something that runs on them lol.
>>744543440>most fun games require an anti-cheatIsn't that more the competitive samsara forevergames?
>>744547468They would be making software for whatever os is dominant faggot And you're so retarded you think it's a praise of windows
Why isnt there just one standard linux instead of literally thousands of different linuxes? It would probably adopted more readily if there was some sort of standard
>>744547721Your IQ is lower than your age, its really quite impressive. When I say "has nothing to do with" or "fault" I am talking about the architecture of the operating system. You are a luddite and legitiamately know nothing about them or software.
>>744547579with an actively hostile ecosystem made up of goycorps like Nvidia that desperately want to hold that back it is in fact an achievement They can't quit consumer GPUs soon enough
>>744547732No I was just genuinely surprised that Microsoft employed developer rape squadsPretty based if you ask me
>>744547782Because that would defeat the purpose of open source development. Different people have different goals and different needs and thus different distros are born to fill those. A server distro and a gaming distro should NOT be the same fucking distro. Again, this place is full of fucking luddite tech illiterate retards.
>>744547782Choice is goodWhen you don't have it you end up with a central entity like Microsoft raping something everyone loved, windows 7, and replacing it with 8, 10, 11
>>744547821>>the only reason people ... run a [Windows] VM has nothing to do with windows>I am talking about the architecture of the operating system>>>the only reason people ... run a [Windows] VM has nothing to do with [the architecture of] windowskek, you only digging yourself
>>744547948Npc's/goycattle hate having real choice because it fucking terrifies them. They want people to tell them what to do and what to think. Even people on this very website.
The reality is that windows is the best option and nothing comparesyou can try linux but it's not going to magically double your framerate due to being barebonesit's all just poorfags coping and blaming the OS when their pc is just garbage, that's why you see people with high end computers using windows while the only ones using linux are poorfags trying to salvage their pc that struggles to run a browser
>>744547948>Microsoft raping something everyone loved, windows 7No, no im pretty sure everybody hated windows 7 too and swore they would never leave XP
>>744547995
>>744547828>They can't quit consumer GPUs soon enoughProblem is that AMD is right behind them, and Intel is so shit at making GPUs that they might as well not be doing it at all. If/when they leave consumer GPUs, that's basically going to be the end of consumer GPUs unless the Chinese save our asses.
Nothing wrong with Windows unless you have a potato pc.
>>744542139>After a couple weeks with SteamOS, I think I can say it's not gonna cut it for me. The OS is fast and lean which is a nice change of pace from Windows, but it's ridiculously locked down and hand-holdy(which I guess makes sense since it's basically a console OS first)Use Pop-OS instead.
>>744548047>no argument
>>744548161anon explain the difference in architecture between windows as an operating system and unix based operating systems like linux. dont google it.
>>744542139I've been using Bazzite for like a year now. Honestly, Windows is probably better, but Bazzite runs all my games and I'm too lazy to switch back. The only thing I miss is modding Mass Effect, the entire mod scene for those games relies on a specific mod manager program that only works for Windows. Also I've noticed that Monster Hunter Wilds specifically has significantly worse performance, I've got a fairly high-end system and I still have to disable ray tracing.
>>744548940>specific mod manager program that only works for WindowsI actually got that one working on linuxbut I dont remember how. Aparantly if you join their discord they can help you get it running. IIRC i just had to install a few prerequisites with protontricks and install me3tweaks itself using protontricks as well so that it gets installed inside the mass effect legendary edition directory.
>>744548018saar... pls upgrade... I want bitcoin from ur pc.... my brother vignesh work rly hard on very butiful webap dekstop element
>upgrading pc le badLinuxfags have lost it.
>>744548034windows 7 had majority marketshare on steam when it was discontinued xp was already a minority
>>744542139What are the cheapest PC's to test different OS's on?
>>744547782Because the linux you adopt to begin with won't be your forever distro. You can get your grandma to use Mint without big hiccups but it absolutely doesn't suit a gaming environment. Distros are minmaxed for different use cases.
>>744549653no amount of upgrading is going to cut through jeets turning everything into a fucking webapp, faggot
>>744549708live boot from a USB stick
>>7445476801. It just werks.2. It's stable as fuck.
>>744542139>locked down and hand-holdyIf that's your only problem with SteamOS then just install literally any other Linux distribution.Generally speaking, the alternatives to Windows are just Linux and MacOS, and the later has been all but completely abandoned as a gaming platform. So if you hate Windows then you want Linux, and SteamOS being "locked down" (by which I assume you mean immutable) is the exception when it comes to Linux.
>>744548034Retards liked Windows 7 because it wasn't as bad as Vista, even though it was worse than Windows XP, which retards liked because it wasn't as bad as ME, even though it was worse than 98 SE, which retards liked because it wasn't as bad as every version of Windows that came before it, which retards used because they couldn't handle MS-DOS raw CLI, which retards only used because of anti-competitive practices by Microsoft
>>744550278>latterFixed
>troonixno thanks
>>744547782Ubuntu was the de facto standard for a long time. In fact you can still just install Ubuntu and run games on it without much trouble. There's no need to be freaking out about choices if you don't even have the knowledge and experience required to make a good one. Never had ice cream before? Just grab a fucking vanilla so you at least know whether you like frozen dessert in the first place before you waste everyone's time by asking for recommendations on all the 9001 special flavors.
>>744549708use VirtualBox iirc
>>744543717that's not true nowadays with AI, even the shittiest browser AI will solve all your linux problems
>>744550329XP just works. That's why people liked it. 7 also werk'd. They are fine despite a weirder nu-interface. The problem is from then on they werk increasingly less. Even tho It's the whole selling point of the system.
what's not really mentioned is that if you go to a non windows/mac OS, trying out different OS's becomes a hobby that takes up time and effort on its own
Something very simple like a fucking console.
>>744551150Distro hopping is just a worthless time sink for neets with nothing better to do
If xp had modern compatibility there would be no reason to upgrade. 25 years and literally no useful advancements to the user experience, and plenty that have gotten worse.How can that happen? How many untold billions have been spent to simply degrade a product?
>>744543640people recommend mint or cachyalso there was monjaro or whatever it's called
>>744547371doesn't count? classic
>>744551037(((ai))), fuck off kike.
>>744542139The best and realistic alternative to windows is Linux, whether you hate it or not. It's free and as bare as software of that caliber gets. The fact that it runs most regular things is a miracle in itself. As much as I believe in it, I'm not using it and probably will not in the near future. You just gotta sit down and learn it and accept that certain things just won't work or won't be supported. Im not even sure what have to happens for Linux to blow up into the masses if PewDiePie couldn't do it.Microsoft have to pull of some outrageous shit for people to finally snap, something alongside what happens to unity game engine. They almost did it with all the forced AI bullshit but rolled back a litte...
>>744553701>You just gotta sit down and learn it and accept that certain things just won't work or won't be supported.This is why troonix is still shit after 30 years.
>>744542139I've been using cachyos and I like it. Give it a try OP.
>>744542139FedoraCachyOS if you want malware
