>Hey you, you’re finally awake. You were trying to cross the border right?
>20 years later>still no game tops this iconic openingwhere did it all go wrong?
lawl, quote from thing, indeed.
>>744545523I haven't seen this intro in 14 years because I've been using alternative start mods for that long
>>744545570It's only iconic because playing it at 61 fps causes it to bug the fuck out.
>>744545523>Why you doxxing me, chud?
I still remember being so hyped for this intro and then the slow realization an hour or so in that Skyrim wasn't going to be the Morrowind with Oblivion quests that I was hoping for, and that it was, in fact, the most dumbed down Elder Scrolls to date instead.
>ultrachad nordbro with sick armor saves your ass at helgen no matter what degenerate race you aredid ANYONE pick imperial on their first playthrough?
>Helgen? No, lad, we were trying to swim across to Ceuta.
>>744546028>And that jew over there>Damn spaniards, if it weren't for border control they'd have been halfway to Madrid!
>>744545523agua… por favor
>implying I am not using Live A Life/Custom Starting LocationUHM enjoy the chopping block fags, lmaoing @ u
NEVER SHOULD OF COME HERE
>>744545805you didnt learn from oblivion?
>>744545523I'm an alligator!
>We are but maggots, writhing in the filth of our own corruption! While you have ascended from the dung of mortality, and now walk among the stars!
Kinda random but when I first heard of Skyrim I thought it was called that because it was mountainous. "Sky's Rim"
>>744545523I prefer the "wake up in a dungeon" opening to an Elder Scrolls game.
>>744545570Devs stopped making good games like Skyrim
>>744545798Redditstead, I'm from Redditstead
>>744545523>What gave it away?
>>744546112>We're all brothers and sisters in Islam now, kaffir
>>744546028Allahru Akabaaaar is my favorite shout you explode and die
>>744547073>hay love! LOVE!
>>744547073I kill him not out of hatred for Talos but out of love for quietness.
>>744545523>Another refugee? Allah has really abandoned your people, Morrocan.>I'm sorry. We'll make sure your remains are returned to Mecca.
Why did they put so much effort into Ralof's kino monologue here but then do him so dirty at the end of the game when you meet back up with him? He barely remembers you and there's no closure or comradery later, just coldness. Same with Hadvar too. In fact I don't even know where Hadvar ends up.
>>744545523>First game, wake up in a dungeon>Second game, wake up in a cave/mini dungeon>Third game, wake up in a boat>Fourth game, wake up in the capital prison cell>Fifth game, wake up on a carriageWhat's gonna be the thing from waking up in the sixth game?
>>744546028>>744546112>>744547567
>>744545523>Khajiit was just trying to sell her wares, those border guard planted that Skooma>This one thinks this is fucking bullshit
>>744548306Waking up in a sex dungeon
>>744545570>where did it all go wrong?TES 6 taking forever to come out, since its opening will top it.
>>744548306>>Third game, wake up in a boatYou wake up on a prison ship, and then the imperial census guy is like>WHAT is your name?>WHAT is your class?>WHAT is your minor attributes?>Okay then, off you go
>>744547073>Rise up gamers RISE UP GAMERS>RISE
>>744548306Bethesda is run by the most revolutionary and creative people on the planet. The start of ES6 is going to be (you) going to bed and not awaking up at all. Its gonna be genre defining for the next couple of decades.
>>744545523The music really sells it.
>Ay ay ay ay, this fool finally woke!>My name's Ralph and my pronouns are ze/zir, ya dig? You got caught speakin' hate speech, right? Same as us, and that n'wah over there.
>>744545570Dragon's Dogma topped it less than a year after its original release. Better combat. Better story. Better dialogue. Better classes. Better dragon.Skyrim is for roleplaying, unironically. Unfortunately, the world is so awkward and poorly designed, it falls on the player to write a ton of headcanon and ignore the bugs and lapses in logic, not to mention NPCs repeating the same lines of dialogue every five minutes if you accidentally walk within ten feet of them.Skyrim ain't bad, but it ain't the shit either.
>>744545523What border was he referring to?
>>744548306wake up in soul gem
>>744548306wake up on a camel in a slaver caravanhalted by some noble's border patrolescape thanks to a slave uprisingthe big bad of the game is unironic slavery
>>744548569This shit always bugged me. He asks for your favourite color and that's a completely subjective question. I get that the knight repeated the previous guy's anwser instead of saying his own favourite one but what if you like two colors equally or just can't decide at all? Will you be launched if you can't decide on one? Will you be launched if you say that you can't decide? Can you just go into a long monologue on what "favourite" means like Xavier from XRA?
>>744545523ICE ICE BABY
>>744548716The only roleplaying potential in Skyrim is deciding what quests to not do and what skills to not level, because pretty much every quest can only be completed in one specific way and you can get every skill to 100 quite easily. It doesn't help that the world and every character in it is extremely shallow to the point of feeling like an abridged parody version of a world we should have gotten. Skyrim is the most overrated 5/10 game every created.
>>744548867This is ultra retarded because Redguards are as a whole staunchly opposed to slavery.
>>744548306Waking up in the desert
>>744545523Of course not. I would never try to illegally cross a country's border. It's wrong.
>>744549019some thalmor mindfuck spell makes them do a 360 on it and thats the secret big bad. there solved the plot hole
>>744548715sex with woke aisloppa chibi lydia
>>744548908There is no real logic to it, it's just subverting fantasy tropes for shock value and humour. Same as the Black Beast of Aaaargh suddenly immaterialising out of existence.
>>744548715The right can't meme
>>744549124Emil, why are you posting leaks on 4chan?
>>744549181Parody? It looked like a parody to you?
>>744549051This is unironically the reason I think the Imperials are the bad guys. "Trying to cross the border" could literally have just meant "walked up to an official border crossing, asked to be let it (because you are a Nord who was born in Skyrim) only for the Imperials to just arbitrarily decided to fucking kill you". Its way too vague to mean anything concrete, and the Imperial commander bitch just decides to kill you despite the very large possibility of everything being a huge misunderstanding. Fuck Imperials and Cyrodiil dick-riders.
>>744549408>Nooooo we have to let this random stranger go even though he was found near an extremely dangerous wanted criminalOkay and if you were the soldier woman in this scenario you would be good with being held personally responsible if that random stranger turns out to also be a dangerous criminal, right?
>>744547073Really love his speech and performance.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNhIH9o_P6sAlso, it's a bit neat how they snuck in a bit of Kirkbride-ism in it.
>>744545805All that just to say that you're a faggot. Weird.
>>744549967Hey, retard. It might be too difficult for a dipshit to understand but punishing people for the crimes of others is fucking retarded and evil. Executing some random guy with no evidence or even an investigation because he just happens to be in the general area of where you found a "dangerous criminal" is wrong, and she clearly only did it because she couldn't be fucked with putting in the effort to do the bare fucking minimum to make sure she wasn't about to kill some dude who was just trying to come back to his home country. Like she couldn't have just said "He's not on the list? That's unusual. Put him in the dungeon for now, we'll look into it after killing Ulfric" like someone who isn't an incompetent psychopath who was given more power than they deserved. Imperial fags really will come up with the silliest fucking reasons to justify the retarded and evil shit the shitty fantasy Romans do.
>>744550703A simple "no" would have sufficed, but I accept your concession nonetheless.
First time player, this game can be truly beautiful
>>744551675watch out for bears, anon. those things can really fuck you up.
>>744551770this, don't let your guard down because of the fancy lights and nice atmo, those gay bars are stuffed with sickos
Serious question how come games like the elder scrolls look better than most modern games? They're dated as shit but theres a certain timelessness to them and they still please my eyes and are immersive.Whats the technical technique that went into this?
>>744551962it's called sovl, anon. and you can't buy it in shops.
>>744551770>>744551861Thanks for the warning though at this point I'm not scared of bears at all, I'm happy when I meet them because it's a free common soul.I'm lvl 27 with my combat skills in the 50s, excuisite orc set (aside from one piece) and excuisite dwarf 1h axe and shield combo.
>>744551962A lot of assets are used in many different games, which cheapens the art direction
>>744551962>how come games like the elder scrolls look better than most modern games?SOVL
>>744551998I'm always scared of bears, but I often play at the higher difficulties where they are murder machines with tonnes of health
>>744551962>Serious question how come games like the elder scrolls look better than most modern games?It's called good art direction. Photorealism is impossible anyways, what really matters is cohesion around a theme and a balance between believable and fantastical.
Hello! My name is Inigo.
>Candlelight only lasts a minuteinfuriating
you did buy the latest paid mod right?
>>744547527Underrated
>>744552075Since it's my first time I'm playing on default difficulty, Adept I think.What also helps is that I have frost dmg enchant on my axe and my follower can take some aggro too.
>>744549349Peak character
>>744552306Yeah followers makes stuff ezSince every time I play I end up stealth archer somehow I always tend to skip followers so I can be a sneaky guy without them clanking around alerting everyone
>>744552406>without them clanking around alerting everyoneI always assumed they don't count for alert checks, or maybe I was thinking of Fallout 4?
>>744552708I don't know if they do or not. It might be just role playing on my end, but a bunch of times they will Leroy Jenkins right into a fight before I am ready.
>>744549130You will honor the flag though right
>>744553027Nope. I'm taking the evil route.
>>744547343Anon...
>be Khajiit slave>Nords stopped our ship and captured us>Expected to get freed"Something like that"
>>744547343Wait till you hear about High Rock...
>>744545856Yeah.Fuck Nords.
>>744545523Yet people still side with the people who were about to behead themIs it a leftist thing?
>>744554272They were doing me a favor. If I have to listen to one more second of stupid nord shit I'd do it myself.
>>744551675I've played Skyrim since the day it released and it still stunned me today with a beautiful vista as I left a cave. A magical game.
>>744554384>Redguard hands typed this
>>744554272maintain order, lest you fall into chaos
>>744554467Who are you quoting?
>>744551962good game direction and a lot of effort. as in todd told everyone on the team near the end to take some aspect of the game that annoyed them and polish or improve it. and everyone worked on some cool additional stuff and most of it got added and that just adds immersion.good time management + effort I guess
>>744545570>where did it all go wrong?you not launching another game 20 years
>>744554592>good time managementmy how the table tables
>>7445542721) A personal slight is not a valid reason to disregard the bigger picture2) Stormcloaks are racist
>>744548771Helgen isn't far from the Pale Pass, the only official route between Skyrim and Cyrodiil. It's assumed the Imperial ambush was staged near there and (you) got caught trying to hop the fence or something.
>>744554272Hadvar was clearly trying to advocate against the player's execution, but his hands were tied because Rikka was his direct superior and shit was HAPPENING because they literally had Ulfric by the balls.
>>744554272It is a moron thing. I don't think politics enters into the equation.
>>744549408You’d have to be a total cuck to side with them
>>744555342Everything you said was correct.None of it was a legit reason to follow the empire dude.> He would have felt bad after you got murdered is a logical and well thought out reason.No
I never finished Skyrim.
>>744556382it’s not a long game
>>744545690Playing at higher than 60 fps fucks up the game in general, not just opening cinematic.Dragonborn DLC has moving platform that your player character will consistently clip through and die.
>>744548306They will probably copy Skyrim to play it safe. In fact, they will probably copy many things from Skyrim to play it safe
Sneed
>>744551962There is a dev video about Oblivion and how they studied architecture and visited irl places to properly desing the buildings they wanted. Bethesda was truly passionate back then about their games.
>>744556890The one video with the autist talking about making many leaf textures with just slightly different shades of green so that the tree would actually look more realistic from a distance was when I realized Todd was a hack making a living off taking credit for passionate people’s work
>>744549181>>744548715this was better.https://youtu.be/sVn4sBxLokA
>>744551962Style over realism. There’s the rare couple of games that can do both, but if you must pick one it should always be style. If I wanted realism I’d go outside and look at a tree
>>744548608into the ass of ELVES
>>744557458Yeah that one made me LOL often. the sequels really just made me exhale a little from the nose like once.
>>744552172I don't like his wholesome chungus vibe
>>744554508The execution of innocents without due process is an indication that order has already failed and all you are maintaining is rot.
>>744551962It's called contrast and modern devs are allergic to using it, everything they make is a smoggy smear.
>>744554951>2) Stormcloaks are racistThis is why you side with them though. Also everyone is racist. Tullius says more racist things than ulfric
>>744554951>A personal slight is not a valid reason to disregard the bigger pictureYou were about to be fucking executed over that "personal slight". At that point, it doesn't fucking matter how salient your points are, I'm going to remember and I'm going to not listen to you.
>>744545523always wondered what he meant by that. Was the dragonborn crossing the border into Skyrim, or out? They seem a bit far into the mainland to be crossing into it, but then why would the dragonborn stick around if they were crossing out of the country? the road you start on does lead into Cyrodil, but it's not like there was a route in between the countries in Oblivion it was sort of a massive impassable mountain range to the north.
>>744559173Why the fuck was ulfric trying to cross the border? Was he going to stand on a box in Bruma and try to recruit people before being killed by a guard?>huge civil war going on, lemme just cross the border into enemy territory
>>744559276could've been trying to skirt the border to avoid patrols in the mainland, the region is tough and rocky so I bet he thought the imps would avoid it because they aren't big tough mountain men like him
>>744545523>playing Skyrim first time nearly 2 decades ago>escape Helgen and get to Whiterun>fuck around wandering the open world>taking everything not nailed down>find a bandit camp>kill everything easily>"You picked a bad time to get lost, friend.">turn around while Bandit Leader is charging a heavy attack>instantly into an animation of me getting killed>didn't save for an hour>lose all motivation>quit and refund the gameI don't get it.
>>744559498>retard who doesn't know how to save in a videogame gets filtered by skyrim of all thingsbatman couldn't get this out of me
>>744551675Yeah I'm replaying it and it's pretty nice.
tfw still playin this shit
>>744559573Saving wasn't the issue really. It's jarring to instantly die after breezing through without a thought.The combat was something I wanted to see more of and that interaction killed the game for me.
>>744560350Bandit captains have always ALWAYS been a cut above their subordinates in TES. Even if it's just heavy armor + big bonk. That's a controller throw, not an uninstall.
>>744549130Is this referencing Xenoblade 2?
>>744559173>a bit far into the mainlandyeah why would you bring someone trying to cross the border so far in-land just to kill them?
>>744545523Sex: MaleRace: NordClass: Barbarian Wife: Khajiit Yep, it's Elder Scrolls time
>can fast travel overburdened from a horse>but cannot travel overburdened with a carriageBetheeeesdaaaaaaaafaik unofficial patch fixes it but I haven't got it yet
>>744560530Would've felt fair if I could see their level or stats or whatever, makes sense to die to something visibly 10x stronger than me.
>>744549181Does it need more words for you, "Lilith"?
>>744545523>HONOR THE FLAG, D.>I'M NOT ASKING AGAIN
>>744559498The game has auto saves on by default you are full of shit
>>744561004Skill issue.
>>744563114>YOU SEE MY NAME IS ACTUALLY NICK GERR BUT THE GUARDS MISHEARD ME!
>>744560530Bandit captains have never been able to lock you into a cutscene and execute you just by being near you.
>>744546028lmaooo
i played skyrim for like 200 hours and never fought dragons cuz i never did the main quest
>>744545570Iconic opening that's a fucking slog after you've seen it once. Live Another Life or Alternate Starts should be the default after you've played the game once.
>>744564810Yep, this should be a standard in all Bethesda games, one of the most popular Fo4 mods is the one that skips the vault part, gives you all the normally accessible loot from the vault and starts you outside after character creation.
>>744548306In a bed with a Redguard woman.
>>744545523>I'm from Rorikstead>and I say kill'em all!
>>744552201Have you tried dual casting the spell?
>>744554951>A personal slight is not a valid reason to disregard the bigger pictureThe "bigger picture" is that a high ranking imperial officer just ordered the execution of an innocent man with zero evidence.
>>744545523>The experts are smiling on me Imperial, can you say the same?
>>744545523It's funny because the game says you're captured near Darkwater Crossing which is absolutely nowhere near Skyrim's border
where should ESVI take place?if it ever comes out and doesnt suck
>man from Rorikstead goes to the other side of Skyrim so he can steal a horse to ride back to the other side of Skyrim so he can cross the border into Hammerfell
>>744554951>nearly getting beheaded is just a minor slight when compared against the greater goodJust a little bit off the top aye laddie? Don't wanna book you for doing a hatespeech in public.
>>744559498KWAB
>>744569820Like with both hands? No. Does it change anything?
>>744571826same anon, just googled it"When dual cast, the duration of the spell increases to two minutes and twelve seconds."Yaaayyyy...
>>744571920>dualwield Magelight>still only throws out the one light sourceGay
>>744545805>unironically prefers Morrowind over SkyrimHoly based
>>744570452We already know where ESVI is taking place and it was announced years ago during that little 10-20 second reveal. All signs point to Hammerfell, or that's the general consensus.
>>744549013>The only roleplaying potential in Skyrim is deciding what quests to not do and what skills to not level, because pretty much every quest can only be completed in one specific way and you can get every skill to 100 quite easilySounds like Morrowind.
>>744545805It's better than Oblivion, thoughever?
>>744548716Dragon's Dogma is an unfinished mess that was always forgotten about outside of the autistic niche that would swear how good it actually was and how much better a sequel would be only for Dragon's Dogma 2 to come out and be an even bigger disappointment that was equally forgotten about.
>>744545856Most people on their first playthrough in 2011 probably didn't even realise there was a choice until reading about it online later. Chances are they ran for the first door they saw a quest arrow on
>>744552172All modded companions are shit and he isn't the exception.
>>744552226But East Empire Expansion came out 3 years ago.
>>744554272>nigga crosses the border illegally, is caught next to the n°1 biggest terrorist in the province and goes full "noooooo I dindu nuthing I'm a good boy I was a future engineer please noooo I have a baby aieeeeee I can't breathe"
>>744564810It's like 20 minutes long for what will amount to an 80 hour playthrough. Second fastest after Morrowind.
>>744545570>iconing opening>dragon lands in the middle of the crowd>SENTRIES WHAT DO YOU SEE>UHH IT'S LE DRAGON
>>744545523yeah but i was going the other way, let me go dipshits
>>744570452>>744573153>"Transcribe the past and map the future"This was an official screenshot posted by the main Elder Scrolls Twitter account on Dec 31, 2020 with the above quote. People are somehow still wondering whether TES VI will take place in Hammerfell or not when this image makes it incredibly fucking clear:>"Transcribe the past and map the future">three lights>light nº1 is in Solitude aka Skyrim's capital during TES V aka "the past">light nº2 is next to a bunch of ESO coins representing the-then current Greymoor expansion aka "the present">light nº3 is smack in the middle of Hammerfell aka "the future"
They should make the new elder scrolls setting Israel
>>744545570It's funny that despite how many times they've re-released Skyrim, the dialogue pacing in the intro is still completely out of whack so the Imperial woman is still asking the sentries what they see when Alduin has already landed lmao
>>744545805I like the Skyrim world the most, the setting, size, northern snowy climate, music is all kino. But true, when it comes to actual rpg mechanics and we'll written missions with choices and menaingful lore Skyrim is complete shit at that compared to morrowind. Skyrim is like "here, you got your perfect ready to go sandbox world game, mod the fuck out of it and have fun" while morrowind is for actual roleplay lore experience.
>>744570452Are any other continent than Tamriel inhabited?
>>744545570Iconic opening?
kek
>>744575136>>744575789Prove him wrong.
>>744575354>Morrowind>missions with choices
Why can't you marry her?
>>744575895Because Lydia is my wife.
Ill get around to playing Skyrim VR with alot of mods but I wonder how quick the novelty wears off even with new dungeon designs/questshttps://youtu.be/SDskLkCks24
>>744547073Dead in the first hour of every playthrough.
>>744575053A new hand reddits the narwhal's bacon
>>744548716Dragons dogma? More like Dragon dogshit can't believe I let /v/irgins fool me into wasting 11 pounds on this horseshite
>>744548716>Skyrim is for roleplayingSkyrim isnt even an RPG, the number of quests that allow you to choose what to do can be counted on one hand, your character "build" affects only the flavor of combat youll be using to kill things as you progress trough the game exactly as you always have and yet somehow its marketed as an RPG and people fall for it.
>>744551675Stealth archer is boring
>>744570528Well when you put it that way it does sound ridiculous
>>744545523Why exactly was I trying to cross the border?
>>744579318But its what most people choose to do because thats what the gameplay pivots to. No matter what gear and strategy you choose the result will be the same, why bother boking NPCs that dont react any different to magic, arrows or axes when you can just stealth kill shit a mile away, loot and quickly move on, the game does not reward you for any particular playstyle outside of this one being the fastests and it becomes aparent extremely quickly.
>>744575053I had no idea she reacts if you drop her beacon. I thought it was an undropable quest item
>>744579515True I tended to do that my first time. But even in the same playthrough it got stale. Just lower the difficulty or use warhammers with poisons and enchantments if you really want to breeze through enemies
>>744574294Oblivion was better
>>744579316>>744574262
>Lead Designer Adam Adamowizc died a couple months after Skyrim's release>Composer Jeremy Soule fired over literal nothingburger #MeToo allegations>most of the actual good quest/level designers (Markath, Daedric Quests, Blackreach) all left BethesdaI have zero hopes for TESVI, I saw the Bethesda devs protesting video today and I can guarantee 90% of those faggots weren't even with the company before 2011. Bethesda released two extremely mediocre, lukewarm received games since then.Its even funnier when they have THE most easy, freely available form of market research available on how to improve their game by simply opening Nexus and filtering by most downloaded mods. Todd and his cronies clearly don't give a shit anymore so why should I as a customer.Skyrim was made by a core team of 100 people, Bethesda now has over 500 core employees and DOZENS of supporting studios all over the world and they can't even bring a tenth of the soul they had during the Morrowind to Skyrim era.
>>744579792Nobody that has actually played the games and din't play Oblivion when they were 11 thinks this btw
>>744581970Nope Oblivion was just still a better experience overall
>>744545523How can a game be so mid yet so fun at the same time?
>>744581970Every Elder Scrolls game feels procedurally generated.
>>744545523Skyrim is easily Bethesda's best game
>>744583931>no argument whatsoever >>744551039
>>744545805Yep. That was exactly my sentiment at launch, that slow realization creeping in... Shit was fucked.
>>744584346Easily the best rpg ever
>>744545570It's the Dark Knight Rises of video games
>>744584658Based
>>744581970God, Oblivion really was fucking garbage wasn't it. How did Todd make that game less than 4 years after fucking Morrowind? It boggles the mind.
>>744583931>>744574294>>744581970>zoomoid of all people calls others zoomers for preferring OblivionYou stupid niggerfaggot. You braindead ape. Skyrim has such atrocious fucking quests and static world that it is boring as fuck and a chore to play and no amount of mods can fix it. You clearly weren't here when Skyrim dropped, everyone was shitting on it, zoom zoom. Because it dumbed everything down even more and even removed magic creation and stats, both a staple of the series. The ONLY thing Skyrim proved upon was the world exploration and dungeons because more than one guy worked on it, but so what? I play these games for the quests and immersion, not just the dungeons (which are still shitty anyway and 90% of them are just one long corridor with an exit at the end, which is far more braindead than any dungeon in Oblivion or Morrowind).
>he's back at it again>he thinks changing the filename is gonna make people not realize it's himOh no no no no no no no...
>there are "people" here that are genuinely in love with skyrimI've been here way too fucking long, christ.
>>744584512>>744545805why do they let uncs post in here? facebook seems more up your alley
>>744584920>boomer posting AI slop complains about othersPottery
>>744584919lmfao now this is a whole other level of cope. Zoomie want a bottle? Zoomie need his diaper changed? Zoomie mad skywim isn't actually beloved by real anons and not zoom zooms?
>>744584919Keeek
>>744579536huh.. I never even tried, I think.
>he's mad
>>744545570Modern vidya aren't made to be enjoyed. Hell, fucking Starfield is a prime example of that. TESVI will come out, and people will still be playing Skyrim same way they're still playing Morrowind.
>>744584812oblivion mogs every other game in the series with its quests and dynamism alone
>>744584919That schizo is in every Skyrim thread hating
>>744585183Fallout 3 mogs Oblivion
>>744548219>>744578784holy fucking reddit!
>>744548771The horse thief said he'd be halfway to hammerfell so somewhere on the west of skyrim, probably near craglorn
>do two quests for the mages guild>cast no magic>become guildmasteryup, skyrim is so fucking based....
>>744585229frfr need to finna cap these uncs cuhh
>>744549019In lore the sload buy slaves from hammerfell all the time though
>>744585240Fallout 3 was the very last time Bethesda actually tried with its quests, some of the sidequests in 3 have a lot of outcomes and permutations. Too bad the MQ is terrible. I have no clue why decided to lobotomize everyone when they were making Skyrim's quests.
>in a bandit cave>see imp stool>my character sits on itOkay it was so dark I didn't see there was a chair on top of the mushrooms, but it got a confused chuckle out of me before I noticed
>do nothing but errand quests that have zero to do with magic>play the entire game as a sword and board character that Marks and Recalls every now and then>join and become the leader of every single factionBravo Todd
>>744584919You realize that that image is widely posted because it's a classic and relevant whenever someone brings up how heckin' incredible Skyrim is, right? What am I saying, you weren't even here when it was made.
>>744548306Wake up in Cold Harbor
>>744585439In terms of player choice and freedom in quests Fallout 3 mogs every TES game to be honest, but to be fair that's not what TES was known for anyway
>>744554272>Imperials want to kill me but I didn't nuffinVs >Stormcloaks are gonna get me killed despite me not doing nuffin Both work
>>744585549still more magic than the skyrim questline in skyrim you can literally know no magic and still become the leader lmfao
>>744585439>this nigga thinks "blowing up Megaton or not" or "letting the immigrant ghouls in to murder everyone or not" are deep RPG choices
>>744585183>>744585183What quests? You ask someone about Oblivion quests, they always say Whodunit or A Brush With Death. Maybe Paranoia. They never mention 80% of daedric quests which are "go into generic cave and kill bandits", like Azura's or Vile's or Meridia's or Namira's; or 90% of other quests which are that mutliplied. Oblivion doesn't have a Blackreach. It doesn't have a Frostflow Lighthouse. It doesn't have an In My Time of Need, discussed to this very day. It doesn't have a Rise in the East with Japhet's Folly. It doesn't let you find daedric quests organically, like helping a priest with a town having nightmares which leads you into creating a dream potion which takes you to the past, or partaking in a drinking contest which has you retracing your comical steps across Skyrim, or entering Azura's Star in a unique environment where you get to see a soul gem from inside, or what seemed like a random dungeon rewarding you with a talkative beacon, or the uncovering of a secret cannibal cult involving named NPCs in one of the province's major Holds. Oblivion doesn't have a Rebel's Cairn or Lost to the Ages, quests obtained from reading books in the world. It doesn't have a Book of Love, where you're an agent of Mara helping people romantically, or Blood on the Ice where you track down a serial killer. It doesn't have a Forsworn Conspiracy+No One Escapes Cidhna Mine combo, nor does it have you paying an archeologist to dig an ancient crypt for you which slowly turns him mad, or tracing a pirate's old treasure which rewards you with his unique gear, or on the other hand purposefully turning a lighthouse off so you can pillage a boat then track those that betrayed you down to their unique, ship themed giant water cave.No matter how much you may fellate the exceptions to the rule, like Where Spirits Have Lease, Oblivion utterly PALES in comparison to the effort put into Skyrim's quests and dungeons being straight upgrades to what came before.
>>744585606Yeah, seeing the quests go from Morrowind to Oblivion to Fallout 3 I was really excited to see them be amazing in Skyrim. Too bad that didn't work out. And it's been downhill ever since, they completely stopped trying.
>>744585681>still more magic than the skyrim questlineQuite literally false. At no point in any Mages Guild quest in Morrowind are you forced to use magic. Skyrim, and admittedly Oblivion too, force you to use spells. Can you try and use exploits to bypass it like ymfah did? Sure, you can try and fly through a window with a bucket or let companions shoot the magic for you, but none of that changes how elements like the pendant wall in Saarthal, the Mzulft Oculory or the fire/ice walls in Labyrinthian force you to get involved in magics, be them your own or those of an enchanted staff, which is something I was at no point forced to do in previous games sans Vahtacen.
>>744575674Akavir has people and potentially snake people that like to invade tamriel and get BTFO'd from time to time, the ancient ancestors of the nords and basically all humans come from Atmora (which some theorise is actually an flat nirn ice wall with many realms beyond) but who knows if anyone is still thereAnd the other fun thing is that the ocean off the west coast has entire civilizations of underwater crab people called hadolids but sadly the only game they show up in is ESO
>>744585720LMFAO, holy reddit post. Just the DB questline alone shits all over everything in Skyrim. The fact that your guilds are so atrocious, one of the big reasons people play these games, is why I can never bother to replay Skyrim in the first place.
>>744585574No, it's posted because it was easy bait 15 years ago when people unironically took things like the dungeon comparison seriously, inherently telling on themselves as people that haven't actually played the games and their content.
>>744585919Morrowind literally forces you to have skill in magic.
>>744585926>"You ask someone about Oblivion quests, they always say Whodunit">Just the DB questline alone Gottem.>one of the big reasons people play these games, is why I can never bother to replay SkyrimSounds like a (You) issue.
>>744586182Anon, can you read?
>>744548569lol
>>744585719>dumb nigger who never played the game thinks he has an opinion
>>744555342>RikkaRikke wasn't at Helgen. The blame is completely on an unnamed Imperial Commander who you have to fight in the Ralof route in that quest. Tullius had no knowledge of it. It's speculation but I believe that the Imperial commander just wanted to make sure that they didn't leave any room for another future uprising, so they planned to execute everyone there regardless. The Thalmor were attending and we see Tullius converse with them on horseback earlier. Later on we find the Thalmor Dossier on Ulfric so we know that the Thalmor have a vested interest in keeping the war ongoing. They could've easily snatched one of the prisoners, indoctrinated them, and groomed them into becoming another Ulfric. That's probably what some Imperials feared would happen if they let anyone go and didn't rush to kill them. The whole execution was just a facade to begin with so they could please the Thalmor and maintain the illusion of order and justice, a political move essentially that no one really wanted but became necessary.
>>744586306Post your playtime and/or screenshots of your playthrough, anon.
>>744548219I used to as well lol but I've come to appreciate the zealousness of his words as part of the bgm.
>>744554951>>744554272Dark Elves in Morrowind are hyper-racists. But in Skyrim, they're downtrodden, buhu, don't be meanies to them.
>>744586393>unnamed Imperial CommanderWould btw
>>744586256Based Skyrim
>>744586426Oasis was definitely the best quest in the game
>>744585180holy SOVL
>>744546378>SHOULD OFIt's "should've" you faggot.
>>744586256Okay, the Mages Guild questline alone shits all over everything in Skyrim. The Thieves Guild questline does too, both of their equivalents in Skyrim are absolute jokes, a fucking mockery. I was fuming when I played that garbage at launch. And then you have side quests like:>Through a Nightmare, Darkly >The Bloated Float >Shadows Over Hackdirt >Where Spirits Have Lease>Zero Visibility>Caught in the HuntAnd then you have Shivering Isles. Anyone who says Skyrim has better quests is completely delusional.
>>744585183Oblivion was the most boring stale bread entry into this series. What are you smoking? It was generic as hell. Morrowind was like being on another planet, and Skyrim was like stepping back in time to dark ages Europe.
>>744585439Fallout 3 had dogshit quests. The ONLY thing it had going for it was exploration and seeing how fucked up DC was.
>>744586823>stepped out and saw a green field>IT'S GENERIC AAA SAVE ME KIRKBRIDEMANNothing about the quests was generic, maybe try actually playing the game next time, champ.
>>744586890In terms of choice and outcome it was Bethesda's best work, by far.
>>744585919>like the pendant wall in Saarthal, the Mzulft Oculory or the fire/ice walls in Labyrinthian force you to get involved in magics>oh shit this is the mage guild questline, how do we involve magic without making literal barbarian normalfags not drop the game imediately???>uhh, make it so the player has to cast a basic starter spell at the wall, there, instant genius mage>but sir, what if they don't even have that lvl 1 spell?>just put a spellbook on a table in front of the player, duh!?>holy shit, we're geniuses!actually insane to see this trash content being pointed to as if it is good game design and not peak example of what makes bethesda games slop.
>>744586087>thinks anons legit opinions from that time are baitgod this board is so fucking terrible, full of kids who grew up with skyrim and cannot accept it's shit
>>744586818The Mages Guild questline? The one that takes the most barebones, utterly simplistic and childish approach to the necromantic theme, without actually exploring it at all just telling you who's right and who's wrong, and which turned Mannimarco into an utter fucking clown to the point people still make fun about it 20 years later? The same Mannimarco that best case scenario at high levels, knows only four spells, doesn't have a magicka pool big enough for one of them, can only cast the other ones once before running out of mana he starts attacking you with a regular unenchanted silver dagger, while his Necromancer class specializes in Blunt but not Blade? Jesus Christ.>And then you have Shivering IslesA DLC that could only work in Oblivion specifically because of how ugly and stupid looking the NPCs in the base game were, which SI took advantage of, and even then it paled with Dawnguard and Dragonborn's additions.
>>744587139>>744587139Times have changed and now we have anons unironically sucking of skyrim, the poster child of bethesdaslop. At least until fallout 4 came out
>>744587139>no argument over how I can play Morrowind for 80 hours, be the leader of every faction and not have used any single spell outside of Recall
>>744587161Yeah, that same mages questline shits all over skyrim's, effortlessly, even.>cope cope copeI accept your concession, skyrimtoddler.
>>744587149They are, yes, because nobody that has genuinely played Oblivion likes, nevermind praises, its dungeon design or pretends 90% of Morrowind dungeons have the size and layout of Arkngthand and not https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Zalkin_Grotto
>>744587247But you CAN'T be the leader of every faction. Not without exploits.
>>744586943I beat the game repeatedly, kiddo. It was boring as fuck. Every single questline can be finished in an hour or less, and aside from trying to visit every oblivion portal, which were copy-pasted more often than not, there was nothing to do in it.
>>744585030Because we were here first you little faggot, deal with it.
>>744587247probably because i don't think that's good game design either, retard.i will say that morrowind at the very least had the much better concept in mind having players needing certain skill levels to progress in rank (even if way too low). the issue with morrowind is that 90% of your skill progression is you sitting in a room paying money to a master skill teacher.
>>744587036It's the opposite. Playing Fallout 3 was the moment I realized Bethesda had fallen off, and that they were going to make only theme park games from there on out. 95% of quests in the game just go "Yay you completed it!" and nothing changes in the world at all. Nearly all of my fun came just from exploring until I ran out of things to discover.
>>744587292>YeahWell I knew you were a retard, I just needed extra confirmation for all other anons ITT.>copeShowing how unfathomably, unbelievably, unfuckably retarded it is for Mannimarco, King of Worms, head and archnecromancer of the Worm Cult, cast-off shell of the God of Worms and Daggerfall gigachad to not be able to cast fucking spells for what is meant to be the grand finale boss fight while he talks to you with the same fucking voice as the Adoring Fan is not cope, but rather you denying reality because it makes your childhood game look bad. I'm sorry but the facts will remain the same long after you stop replying.
>>744579515>because thats what the gameplay pivots tojust get a mod that replaces level scaling with encounter zones and you won't have that problem again
>>744587358You can be the leader of every faction but the Great Houses, just like you can be the leader of every faction but the opposing civil war side in Skyrim. Wait let me guess, "muh Blades muh Ashlanders"?>>744587490>probably because i don't think that's good game designSo they're both badly designed but one actively makes you use spells in some of its quests to progress.
>>744586943>heart of the Empire and the Elder Council 5 minutes after the Emperor died>no politics, no Elder Council quests, no Legion quests>nobody cares about portals to hell opening five minutes away from their farms
FACT: the guild quests for all the games sucked ass
>>744587349Who the fuck praised Oblivion's dungeon design? The point is that Skyrim's dungeons seem more involved but they're all literally a corridor sans a few exceptions while the others had more complex layouts on average. Oblivion has the excuse of one guy having to do all of them. Also at least Morrowind's had super cool rewards hidden everywhere instead of randomly generated loot. Plus it had verticality and there were definitely more dungeons than just one or two that did. Skyrim's should've been a step up in every way, ESPECIALLY when it sacrificed so many other things, and yet you just end up with "yeah they're passable and a few are notable".
>>744587714But people do care about the portals, npcs talk about how scared they are in quite a few of the radiant conversations that happenAnd on that note too many people look back with shit tinted glasses, sure its extremely rough to look at in this day and age but for the mid 2000's the npc routines and conversations were fucking groundbreaking
>>744587372>Every single questline can be finished in an hour or lessso you didn't play the game and your opinion doesn't matter
>>744587528You genuinely cannot be sitting here thinking any of the guilds in Skyrim are better. Pffft, that's fucking hilarious. I guess nostalgia does some wild things. There was practically a never ending dogpile on Skyrim's lackluster quest content on here for years and to this day it's widely accepted Oblivion had the best ones. Anyway, you go ahead and be a nigger over in Riften, meanwhile I'll be stealing an Elder Scroll.
Oblivion has charm but it's still the weakest modern Bethesda game not called Fallout 4. The world, as beautiful as it is, is much emptier than the worlds in Fallout 3 or Skyrim. You weren't meant to explore it like you do in FO3 or Skyrim because the game gives you the ability to fast travel immediately to any city. Fallout 3 was the first game to have a dedicated level design team and it shows. Almost every Oblivion gate feels the same or procedurally-generated. Holds are far more varied and visually distinct in Skyrim than Oblivion. Even the cities are more memorable in 3 and Skyrim.
>>744587372>every single quest line takes less than an hourDumb nigger did not play the gameThe first quest for the mages guild is in fact, 7 seperate quests before they even let you in the arcane university
>>744587161NTA, but Manny's fight isn't EVERYTHING that the mages guild questline is about. You're hung up over the final dude when there's a lot of stuff leading up to him(The mana not being enough to cast his spell is a pretty bad oversight though). There's the initiation around the map, puzzles, betrayal, research. You can make your own black soul gems if you've been paying attention to when and where it needs to happen. Writing the whole thing off just because of how it ends is not a good character trait, anon. The fighters guild also mogs everything in Skyrim
>>744548716Dragon's Sloppa is shit, it has decent combat wasted in a boring, tiny, empty world with 5 enemy types. Story isn't even good either.I thought you cultists would pipe down after DD2 was an embarrassing failure.
>>744587512But it actually has the most world changes, though. And potential permutations, by far. Maybe if you were just doing the MQ you could say that yes, it's the worst and they had fallen off, but SQ content wise they never tried more. >>744587896To this DAY there's no other game with a deeper AI. There is no RPG where NPCs travel to other cities and can potentially just fucking die. There is no RPG where people will decide to steal food if they run out and have no money and can then get killed by the guards. It is a huge shame Bethesda decided to just abandon the whole fucking system instead of iterating on it.
>>744587713>but one actively makes you use spells in some of its quests to progress.making a player use a spell they can use with literally zero experience in the needed skill is trash content. gameplay that has zero reason to exist."whoah you did the thing that let your axe-wielder character pretend they were a mage for a second, congrats!"The result is a mage player who rolls there eyes at the baby challenge and a melee player who rolls there eyes at the idea that they "technically" used magic. just padded content that feels like it was made for an actual toddler and would be better off excluded completely rather than insulting the player's intelligence.
>>744588127In the defense of Oblivions dungeons... it was all made by one guy, so no wonder they all look the same.
>>744587853>Who the fuck praised Oblivion's dungeon design?Whoever made >>744584817 and judged them favorably comparatively, apparently.>The point is that Skyrim's dungeons seem more involved but they're all literally a corridorAren't >>744586087 corridors?>Oblivion has the excuse of one guy having to do all of themTheir priorities during development being so retarded they put one guy in charge of dungeons in the dungeon crawler game isn't an excuse, but anindictment>at least Morrowind's had super cool rewards hiddenDid it? Because most dungeons don't have rewards, period. You go in, you eat two bonemeal, loot a cheap amulet, maybe a Scroll of Healing if you're lucky, and you leave. Eleidon's Ward or the Daedric Gauntlets are exceptions, not the rule. Hell, the former is right next to a main quest and the latter *is* a main quest dungeon. Again, if you've played Morrowind you know most dungeons are both short and empty, and the places where you can Levitate to find "le cool loot" are exceptions often directly tied with quests, like meeting Mara during the Imperial Cult. The actual moment to moment looting and dungeoneering was perfected in Skyrim, which is why the game's been played daily for 15 years straight.
>>744588127>not called Fallout 4Forgot to mention Starfield here.I like to pretend that game doesn't exist.
>>744588102>I guess nostalgia does some wild thingsLike pretending Oblivion isn't the worse of the Todd Trilogy, yeah.
You niggas are making me wanna replay Skyrim but I definitely know too much for it to be fun anymore outside of sex mods which sound like a pain to get working,
HONOR THE FUCKING FLAG
>>744585720>It doesn't have a Rise in the East with Japhet's FollyFinding that quest randomly for the first time was kino.
>>744588127Maybe you can call it the weakest if all you care about is going into dungeons. I play these games for the quests. Also, the holds look more varied and can be more immediately visually striking on the surface, but they're pathetically small, especially the capital, which breaks my immersion. I also don't think that's being fair to Oblivion, each city has its own architecture, aesthetic and climate. You had cities in the mountains, near the coast and even in the swamps. Anvil, Skingrad, Bravil, Leyawinn, Bruma, Imperial City I'd all call memorable. I do agree that Bethesda improved on that "wow factor" when it comes to the cities overall, though Oblivion's was always going for a more refined aesthetic which Bethesda never pursued again.
>>744588876W I F E
>>744545523is it weird i never beat Skyrim. I played it for 30 hours in 2011 and never touched it again
Remember what they took from you, /v/.
>>744588728Roleplay, nigga>sex modsWhen will this meme end, 90% of Skyrim players never used mods nevermind porn filth.
>>744589093I have like 100 something hours and after a certain point in the main questline I just don't feel like doing it.
>>744589108I already roleplayed like 5 different characters and playstyles when I was younger, at some point when you know literally every dungeon and NPC even that starts to wear thin. Same thing happened with New Vegas for me.
>>744589153its just a boring game. And I don't mess with mods, thats a copout. A game should be good without mods.
>>744585592ESO did this already for it's opening.
>>744589093Well I'm playing Halo for the first time in my life, it's not like I didn't have an Xbox growing up it just never happened until the demake releasing has made me go and play the originals. Also your average normie doesn't even play 30 hours of any given game.
>>74458909330 hours is not long for a game of its size so no it's normal not to finish it in that time.
>>744589224That's the point
>>744589196Then go and cycle between Daggerfall/Morrowind/Oblivion/Fallout 3/New Vegas/Skyrim until the heat death of the universe like the rest of us.
>>744575895Like nuns are married to God, daughters of coldharbour are married to Molag Bal and his rusty barbed macecock
>>744589196Try a bog standard dragonborn build, nord male, start with melee+shout build then convert to lategame battlemage with masks and basically become miraak tier. on survival.
>>744588712I can see how a casual zoomer would think that.
Skyrim is a white people thing, makes sense most of vee wouldn't understandhttps://youtu.be/pPWVfCtnGyg
>>744588606What are you even talking about, did you play the game? If anything there are TOO MANY artifacts and overpowered unique items scattered everywhere in Morrowind. I'd even say it's bordering on being an issue, since once you've played the game you have to avoid a lot of locations if you don't want to end up becoming broken too quickly.
>>744589297I couldn't get into daggerfall at all, cities and dungeons too big
>>744548306>wake up outside the wheel
>>744588710Kek
>>744589651>did you play the game?No, I'm making up these screencaps with AI. You got me.
>>744589647Niggas will look at this and the massive amount of ambient quests Skyrim has, then say, unironically that oblivion was better, when most quests in oblivion were "Go here, shoot three things".
>the game /v/ used to call people casuals and newfags over playing now has a group of anons that get offended for calling it casualized slop for normalfags that don't want an rpg but a shitty action gameLMFAO
I downloaded Skyrim Net a while ago and it's fucking great, but how exactly do I get my character to stop obsessing over the guards casting spells on each other in cities and mentioning it unprompted constantly? She is completely mindbroken. I have tried thinking "This is normal and should be ignored" multiple times, I have tried adding "does not care about guards casting spells on each other and will never mention it" to directly to her bio and she still fucking does it constantly. Even NPCs will chime in with their "But how does this affect you personally?" comments in response, but she won't stop.
>>744589876Clearly you didn't do a very good job exploring the dungeons then. I genuinely have to have a mental list that includes something like over half the dungeons that I need to avoid if I want to RP a weakling. And that's another thing, Bethesda never fucking went back to having static loot. There's nothing like going to a location with high level enemies and making it out alive with a crazy reward. Unbalanced? Maybe. But fun as hell.
>>744589910Name 5 quests that do this.
>>744589527Talking about sequels appealing to casuals, how come Oblivion has unlocked fast travel to every major city from the microsecond you leave the sewers even if you haven't been to them yet? And why doesn't Oblivion have in-universe fast travel, while we're at it? Because sure you can "technically" not fast travel but quest designers didn't take that into account so quests are designed to take you all over the map without the consideration for diegetic travel that Morrowind had, so in reality you'll just waste time traveling through the same empty road for the 70th time a playthrough while trying to do the Fighters Guild which takes you all over Cyrodiil, with no random encounters or unmarked locations to find and with a world that outside of dungeons seems completely empty and sterile.You know what game changed that back? Skyrim. Leaving aside how the actual world was made that much more detailed in exploration, locations to find, shrines, random encounters, height levels that obfuscate travel, etc. they actually added carriages you can take just like the Silt Striders of old, look at that. And once you've advanced enough in the game's quests you can even fly dragons yourself! Fallout 4 had the same thing with the ability to call Vertibirds and to have them fly you in real time. The official survival mode even eliminates fast travel, and it works for those games in a way it wouldn't in Oblivion or Fallout 3 precisely because they brought some of the Morrowind options back. Why wasn't pic related in Oblivion? Why did I need to pay for Frostcrag Spire back in the day to get access to a basic ass function the Mages Guild operates in-universe? Sounds like a badly designed and thought out world to me.
>>74458991090% of skyrim's quests are going into a draugr cave lol
>>744590221uh oh meltynone of that makes skyrim's quests good or justifies ripping out stats and magic creation
Why didn't the Emperor use Mark & Recall to escape the Mythic Dawn assassins? Is he stupid?
skyrim is trash for retards carried by good aesthetics and music plus mods
>>744590374>cannot argue backFigures kek
>it's a fine day with you around
It's telling that Oblivion fags never create their own threads because nobody cares about their game so they always try to highjack Skyrim or Morro ones.
>>744590571>sells drugs made from a fragment of a daedric flying city>gives you a cut
>>744590571Khajit property
>>744590647Trvke
For me, it's Muiri
>>744591975Simperials..
>could've had Oblivion style Arena kino in Windhelm but it was cutIs there any mod that adds a good arena questline?
>>744545570>A game that sold millions and has the largest modding community has an "iconic" intro. Any other "iconic" scenes from this game?
>>744591975If we're counting modded appearances, Brelyna Marion is peak wife
>>744592582https://youtu.be/c6q2t2GSJb8
>>744592582Fighting the first dragon outside of Whiterun.Reaching the top of that big fucking mountain.Fighting Alduin in Sovngarde.Killing the emperor on his personal yacht.Fighting the three Draugr lords to reunite that pendant.A bunch of others
>>744592582Returning after mogging alduin in heaven and all the dragons are chilling at the mountain with Paarthurnax's skeleton still there
>>744552226I have the Bard one and Coven of Crones one but I certainly did not pay for it.
>>744592582Cornering Mercer in pic related before his boss fight, as he's robbing the Eyes of the Falmer.
I LOVE closing Oblivion gates!FUCK the daedra!FUCK the atronachs!FUCK the Mythic dawn!FUCK Mankar Camoran!AND FUCK Mehrune Dagon!R.I.P. Martin bro...
>>744592714Holy kino
>>744592812>Fighting the first dragon outside of Whiterun.>Reaching the top of that big fucking mountain>restarting the gameftfy
>>744593196He was the first and only person I killed on my thief playthrough
every time i play one of these bethesda rpgs i end up bouncing off of it. should i give the elder scrolls another chance? i'm not someone that cares about mods. i want the game itself to be good.
>>744545523REMEMBER KEKFRIC WAS TRYING TO ESCAPE SKYRIM LIKE BITCH LMAO
>>744592582Keep in mind, Skyrim is a game that never leaves the player's point of view. There are no cutscenes per se, no scripted walk and talk sections (NPCs can walk but at any point you can fuck off to the other side of the world), you're always in control of your character. It's surprising they got enough of these to work, given the restrictions and especially for 2011.
>>744593280
>>744593320I wish we could've joined him, better an actual thief that goes all the way and is voiced by Garrett than a bunch of idiot ((thieves)) that let themselves be robbed for 25 years.>nooooooooo you're a thief you can't rob from Nocturnal noooooooooWhat better than to steal from a daedric prince and get away with it? Mercer did nothing wrong.
>>744593750Skyrim Thieves Guild is a complete sham, it's exemplified by how little actual thieving you do in their questline. Cyrodiil's mogs hard.
>>744593196People shit on the TG storyline but I always thought that it was fitting that their leader in Skyrim was the one that was better at swinging his sword around
>>744593876You must do a minimum of 24 thieving jobs to restore the guild and become their leader. The TG is the one questline you end without becoming the faction's boss by default.
>>744545523Powerful
>>744548306Wake up in a tomb
>>744593868True, the very first actual quest you get after joining can be completed by murdering all the guards who are outlaws in the eyes of the games legal system.so there is no penaltyBut all the repeatable side quests which lead up to specifc heists are cool
>>744592431Thirteenoranges made a pit fighter ‘questline’ (you just kill shit in an arena) way back in the LE days.I don’t know if it’s still on Nexus but /tesg/ always maintained a link in their modding resources (for SE version as well).
>>744592582The fight with MiraakGoing to Blackreach for the first time and fighting the Dwemer construct dragon Getting the bow of Auriel
>>744592582Its not an iconic in game moment but "but then i took an arrow in the knee" was the biggest meme in the world at one point
Some of you are alright. Don't go to Kvatch tomorrow.
>>744548716>Better storySkyrim's story isn't great but somehow Dragon's Dogma's story is way worse. Love both games BTW.
>>744595364Dragon's dogma has an entire antagonist completely irrelevant to the plot with that whole cult thingHe had nothing to actually do with the dragon and is unceremoniously killed in a cutscene
>>744545570Skyrim was just too good obviously
>>744587161
>>744552172>paw mod
>>744593750>>744593868>piss of your patron Daedric Prince because one guy wanted the Skeleton Key>said Prince curses the entire Guild with horrible luck>restoring the Key gives the player the best thieving skills in existence >shit like Prowlers Profit will make you the richest person on Nirnfuck Mercer
>dragon attacks whiterun>heimskr doesn't even blink and continues giving his daily sermonwhat a fucking ladhow can anyone hate this character
>>744546028They're hiding in the mountains are are getting ready to spread across europe
>>744593417Ill Met by Moonlight is one of the few decent quests in Skyrim. its a shame that if you do it before visiting the place, Bolar's Oathblade and Bolar's note will disappear, so you want to visit the place and loot it before doing that quest. Also, Saviour's Hide is top-notch, although not as powerful as it should be, and is perfect for female chars. Its not level-scaled, so do ing that quest early will give you a really good boost.
>>744593280>>744593546Martin was the best Emperor. RIP.
Why did he do it?
>>744596113>piss of your patron Daedric PrinceNocturnal is a tsundere, she should be happy that thieves thieve>said Prince curses the entire Guild with horrible luckSkill issue.>restoring the Key gives the player the best thieving skills in existenceYou turn invisible for like 30 seconds. The Key opens every lock ever, from the physical to the metaphyiscal.>shit like Prowlers Profit will make you the richest person on NirnNot connected to Nocturnal's shenanigans.
>>744596531
>>744596432The dungeon resets and you can get the blade afterwards. The sword is not good so you may want to let it stay at the shrine (out of respect, of course)
>>744596141Bro was locked in
>>744596742Nah, i like to use it to kill Thalmor. That is how i play my respect.>katana is in the game>no tanto>no dai-katanaAtleast Oblivion had dai-katana (and i like it a lot).
>>744596915That's putting it to good use
>>744545805sameI was playing oblivion while waiting for launch and had all these ideas about what I'd like to seeand it was all just worse kek
>>744545570I still play Skyrim occasionally but I haven't seen the opening in years. I have a save right before Hadvar and the officer call you up and always start new runs from there
>>744574568I also followed Ralof my first time. I was playing as a Nord anyways because of the 4 human races its closest to my own ethnicity and I was innundated with "SKYRIM BELONGS TO THE NORDS" any time I went online
>>744581796Yet Emil Pagliarulo is still there.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bi51-wjcwp8After I listened to his talk everything suddenly made sense. As long as this hack is working in any capacity for Bethesda, nothing good will ever be made there.
>>744597820Emil wrote Fallout 3 and 4 so he's based
>>744596531It was the medication he was on, for his blood pressure.
>>744598125Don't forget that he also was the lead writer and design director for Starfield.
>>744598934Based
>>744597291>>744574294
>>744575895>so fertile you can impregnate a vampiregood or bad?
>>744587139>spellbookIt's worse than that, every character starts with the basic fire spell.
>>744588597I blame Microslop for them pushing Bethesda to accelerate the development so they could have a better Xbox 360 early lineup.
>>744601143
>>744590374he raped you
>>744592582Walking around at night while secunda plays and a spooky headless ghost rides past you
>>744602438Honestly why did Skyrim not have PBR and parallax occlusion mapping like oblivion?
>>744603091Oblivion didn't have PBR. The first Bethesda game with PBR was Fallout 4.
>>744602438Post Oblivion's caves, or bandits in glass/daedric, or mudcrabs two-shotting you due to level scaling, or meme voice acting.
>>744545523>Hey you, you're finally awake. You were trying to transition to female, right?
>>744604120>mudcrabs two-shotting you due to level scalingThat'sa new one. I know they do a ton of damage if you max out the difficulty slider, but I've never heard of level scaled mudcrabs before.
>>744596609>>744596531QRD?
>>744581970>TES3: nuanced imperialist Romans you can join>TES4: goody two-shoes medieval knights you cannot join>TES5: nuanced imperialist Romans you can joinWhat did Bethesda mean by this.
I downloaded a pirated copy and none of the script extenders work. Do I really need it?
>>744545523 A NEW HAND TOUCHES THE BEACON! LISTEN! HEAR ME AND OBEY! A FOUL DARKNESS HAS SEEPED INTO MY TEMPLE! A DARKNESS THAT YOU WILL DESTROY! RETURN MY BEACON TO MOUNT KILKREATH! AND I WILL MAKE YOU THE INSTRUMENT OF MY CLEANSING LIGHT!
>>744605235
>>744605235in my vesion it was a buttplug that was vibrating from time to time hahah
the dragonborn crossed state lines with an ar-15 he should be hanged
I wish playstyles centered around crafting/consumables weren't so tedious to play in practice. This goes not just for skyrim but for other bethesda games like NV. My favorite playstyle is actual an alchemist, but then you're at the mercy of what ingredients you can buy/scrounge, and you're always going to be cucked by carry weight. So that means constantly needing to manage how many potions/poisons you're carrying, and every time you want to make more stuff at an alchemist table, you need to travel back to your home base, take all your ingredients out, make whatever you need, then put them all back in storage. Same goes with other craft-centric playstyles like focusing on survival, explosives, or thrown weapons in NV.
>>744596609That guy who made the deus ex video everyone quotes still trooned out years ago aswell
>>744605179>Do I need the thing every mod uses Idiot lol
>>744606484That doesn't sound right.. You must be carrying a lot more than just alchemy. But anyways you can increase carry wait by leveling up stamina, carry weight enchantments, and getting that pickpocket perk.
Reminder Skyrim is a post-apocalyptic game and that is rad as fuck.
>>744545571>le 'deconstruction of meme'
>>744586721It's "should have" you faggot.
>>744585180soul
>>744592582>>744585180
>>744585180Based RP walker
>>744586721>>744608282newfetchers
>>744545683kek me too,I used Arthmoor's mod for ages then eventually switched to Realm of Lorkhan.
>>744550703DON'T question the girlboss. Don't make me warn you again. *bares teeth*
>>744551962There's not a term for it as far as I know but the older methods of rendering are a lot "cleaner" than modern rendering. Back then a polygon was just a polygon. Slap a texture on it, maybe a bump map if you're feeling fancy, and let the lighting engine apply a darkening gradient on it.Now rendering is about how much you can obfuscate all of that. That simple polygon is now subdivided at a pixel level, each of those sub-polygons needs to have 20 different light mapping textures so the new lighting engine can simulate how rays of light interact with the specific material, and all of this gets slathered with temporal anti-aliasing which basically just copies the previous frame and sets it to 20% opacity, leading to a smeared complex mess of lighting effects that are all competing to turn a pixel dark or light.
>>744545570I've played Skyrim twice. The first time I got sidetracked too much, and couldn't bother exploring anymore. Couldn't even finish the main quest. The second time, I just rushed through the main quest as best I could, along with the Legion first, with the occasional side shit here and there. Did the Vampire DLC, but then was too burnt out to explore anymore and do the other DLC.Both time I went back to playing Morrowind. Played it for the first time in Iraq on deployment a couple years ago and loved it. Replay it every now and then with Tamriel Rebuilt and it's great.
>>744549181Troon
>>744605007The Imperials were imperialists in every province except Cyrodil
>>744545523Ay, coño. Me picarán la cabeza.
>>744548306Sailing is going to be the big ticket item this time around, so I presume a ship.
>>744548807kek
>>744545523>Skyrim memesPlease just fucking stop. It’s been 8 centuries since this game came out, and I love it, but I’m tired of seeing anything about it.
>>744613120Never shoulda come here!
>Shit-ton of Mods>Vanilla+ Mods Only>Vanila OnlyWhich way?
>>744612791Yeah instead they let every imperial fort in their province be occupied by bandits.
>>744613616Vanilla+I want to enhance what's already there and add to it, not turn Skyrim into some Souls slop with anime titties.
>>744570528Right. How much does a stolen horse even sell for? Can't be worth what's probably a solid week of travel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uj4u4aB-ElE Who, are you?
>>744608183>using "le">disparaging meme deconstruction
>>744612245Based Iraq/v/roI already played Oblivion and Skyrim a few times (only finished the main story for each once tho)Just started Morrowind last week, which I was always hesitant in playing bc the barrier to entry is a lot higher than the other games, but been really surprised by the level of depth and maturity in the writing that isn't quite as present in Oblivion and Skyrim. I do miss the NPC simulation from the other games tho
>>744613616>Vanilla+ Mods OnlyThis sounds good in theory until you realize that almost all of Skyrim's base mechanics are dogshit and can be vastly improved with mods.
>>744613616This:>>744613856is the only correct answer.Skyrim Animeporn moderns are autistic or mentally ill and if I wanted another game, I'd just play another game.
>>744548257they both offer a bunch of dialogues after the helgen escape and while they stay in Riverrun. They also talk to you during all civil war missions where you two are assigned to the same post. I believe they even comment on you advancing in ranks and they themselves also advance. They treat you like a friend during those lines and are happy to see you still alive after meeting you again since the last posting.they are total bros with you man..they are the canon best friends for your character
>>744594921Yeah, Skyrim had a massive impact on internet pop culture in the early 10s. Fuck, I still see Nazeem memes from time to time. It was the last culturally relevant game Bethesda released.
>>744613616Vanilla + unofficial patch
>>744575895Daddy issues.just download the serana dialogue expansion mod and romance her
>>744594921it's hard to believe it became such a meme but it took me like 30 hours to hear this once in gamemaybe guards had fewer voicelines when it released?
kekk
>>744601243>every character starts with the basic fire spellOh yeah. I was on a mission in Riften to set beehives on fire but I wasn't a mage so I got a fire aspect weapon and that didn't work out :((( but I opened my magic menu and it turned out I have a Flame spell
>>744548306wake up on a beach, ship wrecked on a small island off the coast of hammerfell, and it's basically tutorial island
>>744592582going to Mora daedric realm and soul cairn
>>744547073I always found odd such iconic npc has no quests
>>744616137Closest is stealing shit from his house for the Thieves Guild
LET'S FIND OUT
>>744615546To be fair people play skyrim 30 hours a day for 15 years so a line may seem more common than it is
>>744593750kek
>>744578784salsa?
>>744616137Nazeem doesn't either
>>744615546>>744618589I've heard "Let me guess, someone stole your sweetroll?" at least 10 times more than the knee thing personally. Maybe getting an arrow in the knee is more memorable.
>>744620950No lollygaggin
>>744615810That's just ESO.
>>744545523Why didn't Ulfric just use his shout in this scene?
>>744622261His one weakness: a small piece of cloth
>>744548306>black history be like
>>744545570>20 years>Skyrim came out in 2011>2026-2011 = 15You're retarded
>>744622261He would lose aura and get unalived
>>744570452It will never take place outside of Tamriel. Everything else is simply for lore.
>>744579000Digits being noticed
Orc wife
>>744622919Is there any in the game?
>>744602168Oblivion, FO3, NV and Skyrim all came out before Microsoft bought them. Bethesda is notorious for talking big and failing to deliver. When you see what they had planned for FO3 it would have felt much more alive than the boring empty nothing it turned out to be.
>>744623019Borgakh the Steel Heart
>>744616137I think its better he doesn't have a quest. Sometimes a character can just stand out from their presence alone. Hes also in the first city you'll enter so that already has a lasting impact than anyone else. Theres a reason nobody remembers the other Jarls beyond Balgruuf.
>>744623778It's time my bard pays her stronghold a visit
>>744623924>It's time my bard pays her stronghold a visit
>>744554951>Stormcloaks are racistNot really
>>744624861kek
>>744545570Lots of gacha ARPGs have dumb action openings like this
>>744547073I LOVELOVEMOIST TOWLETTES
Anyone here try the skyrimNet plugin yet?Haven't touched Modded Skyrim or Skyrim at all in over five years.Been thinking about doing a Nord mercenary traveling with a Khajiit caravan Romance play through. Seeing as how all the vanilla characters in the game are mapped to the plugins memory database.
>>744614216>I do miss the NPC simulation from the other games thoMe too. Luckily there are a lot of mods that attempt to reintroduce such things. I really do think that Morrowind has a much better foundation, and if there's anything from the other games you want, chances are there's a script or something that will do it. I love how active the community for it is after all these years
>>744623907>Theres a reason nobody remembers the other Jarls beyond BalgruufAnon, plenty of people remember Maven, or the crazy Ravencrone grandma in Morthal, or the asshole young Falkreath jarl, or the bald ass Markarth dude that's beefing with the Silver-Bloods, and obviously Elisif and Ulfric.
>>744624861
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/179824Game over ENB fags
>>744584668absolute kino and an instant cult classic?
Which one of you niggers killed my main man Paarthurnax? Reveal yourself now.
>>744631350Obviously canon since the quest is forced on you, and there's no alternative way to complete it.
>>744627645And yet you didn't mention the asshole Jarl of Dawnstar and the Jarl of Winterhold who's entire personality is hating the college.
>>744548306Wake up in a womb.
>>744616137Makes sense. He's in the first big city you enter and he just screams all day. Pass by him enough times and even the most dull of normalfags will actually stop to listen to what he's actually saying.
>>744631437I'm just not gonna do it. Sorry bro, I'm just not gonna do it is all, haha
>>744548908The guy got his own favourite fucking colour wrong. That's all there is to it and it's funny.
>>744631350NOOOOOOOOOOOO HES HECKIN WHOLESOME NOW HE SHOULDNT PAY FOR HIS CRIMES!!!
>>744549013>Skyrim is the most overrated 5/10 gamethe aura and vibe were killer back then, and the engine itself still lets you do things other games cant. Its difficult to herd a simulated open world into being a game. >>744547059kek
>>744586393>>It's speculation but I believe that the Imperial commander just wanted to make sure that they didn't leave any room for another future uprising, so they planned to execute everyone there regardless. The Thalmor were attending and we see Tullius converse with them on horseback earlier. Later on we find the Thalmor Dossier on Ulfric so we know that the Thalmor have a vested interest in keeping the war ongoing. They could've easily snatched one of the prisoners, indoctrinated them, and groomed them into becoming another Ulfric. That's probably what some Imperials feared would happen if they let anyone go and didn't rush to kill them.Ulfric being groomed only works because he was a jarl's son. The Dragonborn at the start is just some nobody, he'd be worthless to the Thalmor. And killing all the prisoners so there'd be no witnesses would make more sense but doesn't work since the people of Helgen were all watching the execution of Ulfric. She was just a lazy, evil bitch.
>>744615801you can also just bash them with a torch to set them aflame
>Skyrim's concept artist died of cancerLife is unfair
>>744545570That's what happens when Skyrim is one of the best games of all time
>>744548716dogmas combat is kind of shitTES combat isnt the main draw but atleast its over quickly generally meanwhile you find some fish niggers in a well in DD and they take 200 swings to kill on normalpeople just soiface over DD because they can stnad still for 10 seconds to cast a totally EPIC spell
>>744592582It was an iconic intro right when it came out when neither of those were true, zoomer.
camelworks died
>yeah, Skyrim is a shithole and I was trying to get into Cyrodil, the home of the TRVE rulers of Tamriel
>>744631350Paarthurnax gets the axe, every time
>>744548219This
>>744624861Worry not my friends. I had to win the trust of her clan, pickpocket a briarheart, retrieve the magical gloves, but now I have returned and melted Borgakh's steel heart, with the art of speechcraft.
thoughts?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCgl4a6uemU
>>744545523Hey does anyone have that edit of the comic with the group talking and a guy walks up, says something, followed by one of the group members doing a massive thumbs upThe edit is instead of a thumbs ups, its a giant hand grabbing the dude and pulling him into d group for a gangbang
>>744626153They feel so GLOOOOOOOOOORIOUS on my sweet ass!Watch.
>>744545523Best opening in The Elder Scrolls
>>744636357There was actually a cut conversation between Elenwen and Tullius that would've been heard as you rode past them as they're on horseback where Elisif demands that the prisoners be taken into Thalmor custody per the terms of the White-Gold Concordat, and Tullius flat out refuses and tells her to fuck off. Some of it was actually restored in a mod for the game:https://youtu.be/l9keT2jYi0s?t=155&is=bzkNAK1BIN_I44SK
>>744593750He's in the ground so I'd say he was pretty wrong.
>>744545523"No, I was trying to cross the street, but the that truck came out of nowhere. Where am I? this isn't Japan..."
>>744545690>>744556529there has been a mod fixing this for years
>>744548716>Better combatI'll give you this.Everything else is horseshit.
>>744579318Combat is more boring. I always go stealth because of this. And archer is the only viable vanilla stealth path. Although I also had fun on a modded stealth spellcaster playthrough
