is it that much of a game changer or at least worth the price?
>>744547728yes
It's good for gaymen, but it's really phenomenal for movies.
>>744547728>is it that much of a game changerYes>at least worth the price?Harder question to answer since on top of being more expensive they'll also probably have a shorter lifespan, at least on average
>>744547728Like everything you get used to it fast but before that happens yes it is night and day, IPS will be unplayable after you get used to OLED
it aint worth it if you game more than 2 hours per day, you'll 100% get burn in, people even take 1--2 hours breaks to ease the panel. right now oled is a meme, twice as bright half as long
From what I understand after doing some research woled is worse than qdoled at ideal conditions (no lighting in your room) but if there's some light even if it's indirect like sun leaking around curtains or whatever then woled quickly becomes vastly superior while qdoled starts to show blacks as purples.
>>744547996Holy shit what is this stupidity? Dude is just making shit up as he goes.
>>744548046QDOLED is straight up better. WOLED just came earlier and what normies are adjusted to. Go to any big electronics store that has TVs for display and the best ones are all QD from color, viewing angles, the stuff that makes normies turn their head with shopping. WOLED is only recommended if you're on a budget like all the AOC/Gigabyte cheap oleds are WOLED.
OLED is a massive game changer for games and movies. I can't ever go back. It would be like going from HD back to SD. Just don't go 4K like I did. That's a meme and it costs many times more to run games at that resolution.
>>744548046>>744548241From left to right woled, tandem woled (the most expensive by far), qdoled.How they react to a well lit environment. Yes qdoled starts to turn blacks into magenta. Obviously you can have far less light than this, it's just a test, plus you need to account for it not being a naked eye observer.
get ready for 500 posts about burn in from people that haven't looked at a modern panel and just parrot shit they heard 10 years agoalso the random retard saying he'll wait for miniLED when they're over $50,000 and have no indication they'll fix the pixel density issues any time soon
>>744548397any electronics store is going to have bright as fuck lights. the qd in person is still going to have better viewing angles and colors and no grey banding unlike woled.
>>744548397All the tandems I see on reddit have disgusting banding on grey.
I have a 240Hz 24.5 inches VA with 1ms response time, and it just fucking works even after many yrs. No OLED nor HDR meme can make me switch. Manufacturers should make "retro monitors" however. It would sell like hot cake.
Daily OLED shilling thread I see? Gotta earn those paychecks.
>>744547728No. It's scam tech that will fail you, by design. There is no good display tech btw.
>>744548491>viewing anglesI'm sitting in front of my desk when I use my computer.Also, what was it I said? qdoled is superior in ideal light conditions while woled becomes better if you have to deal with some lighting. This >>744548397 seems to corroborate at least the last part of my post. Obviously that's an exaggerated environment but it does show the different behaviors I mentioned.
>>744547728Get an OLED TV if you're going to be a retard.>But muh 2ms response time!!!Isn't fucking real. OLED has so many fucking problems that have been talked about over and over in every thread. If you're going to buy a garbage OLED display just get a TV because the monitors are way overpriced and 4k on a tiny monitor KILLS details, no matter what retard tries to say otherwise.
Yeah. I just have a black wallpaper with nothing on it. Monitor itself will turn off as well as ask to do a pixel thing every day or so. No burn in so far just buy a decent one on black friday
>>744547728Yes. I think led to oled is a bigger upgrade than 1080 to 4k.
>you can get one for 300 nowhttps://www.newegg.com/asrock-pgo27qsa-27-qhd-240hz-qd-oled-black/p/N82E16824028026https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-go27q24a-27-qd-oled-240-hz-qd-oled/p/N82E16824012118any thoughts on these? might bite the bullet
>>744547728Yes. I think led to oled is a bigger upgrade than 1080 to 4k. Im so glad i chanced it and got an oled instead of a mini led. $1200 well spentAlso im talking about a TV, not a monitor
>>744548598>>744548576I use 4k projector with a 110" light grey screen. I have my Switch 2, Steam Machine, and 4k Panasonic Blu-ray player hooked up to it. What's more important for movies is resolution. What's more important for games is visual clarity. And having such a fuck huge screen gives me both.>Quick response timesYou will never use this unless you're some MLG gaymer.>Burn inIt will happen on any display, it's just more prone on OLED because each pixel is used more. Ask anyone about subtitle burn in.>4kBasically useless for games because of the hardware demand, 1080p upscaled to 4k is more than enough. And before anyone says the I'm wrong just a reminder that there are barely any games actually designed for NATIVE 4k. Everything modern runs on fake frames and fake resolution.>HDR Absolute huge fucking meme for movies, but only good for SOME modern games, and only truly visible on OLED that can reach high brightness without washing out colors, which 80% of displays cannot do.
>>744549116Poorfag hands wrote this post
>>744548997Those are woled, see discussion about w and qd earlier in this thread or elsewhere. Can't see if they're glossy or matte finish on a quick look. Some people really prefer one over the other. In my case I dislike how matte difuses the light all over the monitor and much prefer the glass like feeling of glossy.Keep in mind your freensync/g-sync options depending if you're on AMD or nvidia. No budget OLED is going to have enough nits for HDR to really come into play (you'd want over 600 nits) so the poor HDR can mostly be ignored as it won't really matter anyway. 0.3ms instead of 0.2 like most monitors but shouldn't matter either.
>>744547728I bought a 32" 4k OLED for 800 dollars, the trade off was a max of ~150hz but my 4070Ti wasnt going to reliably go above that for games that are worth the trouble to do that anywayI like it, had it for about 15 months now with no burn in even though i practically live at my monitor as a nolife chudI do have to baby it though
>>744548253Movies especially because they really push the HDR. A good 4K transfer with Dolby Vision is better than seeing it in theaters.
>>744549324Sorry babe but my projector + screen + steam machine + switch 2 is more expensive than your Dell PC with your OLED tiny monitor.
>>744550409That's because 99% of theatres still have old bulb projectors with a fucked yellowed screen. HDR/Dolby Vision is genuinely a scam because 99.9% of the films you watched were not made for HDR. Its like people wanting a remastered Dolby Atmos or 7.1 surround soundtrack for Citizen Kane, which came out in 1.0 aka mono. Lawrence of Arabia wasn't shot for HDR. The cinematographer of Blade Runner wasn't thinking about HDR. Its that simple. 4k resolution with no DNR as God Intended > HDR digital manipulation post processing.
>>744547728OLED is fine. If you were smart enough to make the most of OLED, you'd know what to do without OLED well enough to make it not worth purchasing. Don't bother OP. Just get 1 or less ms response time display, HDR is a scam. That's everything you need to know
>>744550826I swear projectors are for poorfags larpers or for people with actual money for a real home theater. You aren't the latter. Don't event talk to me unless you have a LCoS, 3LCD, a 3 chip DLP. Everything else is shit tier.
>>744550993You don't have to have DNR to have HDR. A transfer from an analog source can absolutely be mastered for HDR and look much better for it. I just watched my 4K Blade Runner disc with HDR yesterday, and it looked utterly phenomenal with a shit ton of film grain to boot. I doubt the creatives involved with Lawrence of Arabia and Blade Runner were thinking about OLED panels either, so why aren't you spooling up the original film reels when you view them? You're being very silly with this puritanical nonsense.
>>744550993Film has more stops of dynamic range than what SDR can deliver you midwit.
>>744547996Are you fucking retarded? My LG OLED tutns itself off if it's left inactive too long.
>>744551996I turned all the pixel shift, screensaver, and pixel refresh stuff off because it was annoying.
>>744547996Dude just admit you're poor
Built this early last before the insane price hikes. It'd cost over 3,000 USD now.I regret getting a 4TB SSD, I should I gotten a smaller SSD and bought a 5080 or used 5090.ASUS Prime 5070Ti OC 16BG ($750)Ryzen 7 9850X3D ($400)(Thermal Grizzly KryoSheet ($24) I'm too lazy to do thermal paste)Kingston FURY Beast 32GB DDR5 CL36 ($100)WD_BLACK SN8100 4TB ($450)MSI MAG B850 Tomahawk MAX ($180)be quiet! Pure Power 13 M 850W ($90)be quiet! Pure Loop 3 280mm ($85)Fractal Design Meshify 3 Black Solid ($120)
>>744552070So you fucked yourself. Those features exist to protect your screen.
>>744552481I just bought a pre-built for the first time in forever because it was cheaper than building out a new platform. About 4.5k for a 5090, 64GB of DDR5, a 9900X3D, and two 2 TB M.2 SSDs. This was months back, though. Same tower now is 6.5k. What a fucking joke.
>>744547728>is it that much of a game changeryeah, they're pretty nice.>worth the price1440p 240hz OLEDs are like $300 off sale now, so yeah. really no reason to not just upgrade unless you want to wait another year for them to be ~$200
No. A custom colour profile will do a good enough job. Getting a screen that has burn in makes spending a lot of money on a scree on a bad idea.Micro LED might solve it, it's said to, that could be a lie. MicroLED are made now, just at high prices of $50,000 to $200,000. Also the concept of using multiple screens to build a large one might take off with them. And if so, the same screen available for a long time. A led screen can't be expected to last without burn in for more than a few months. One for a lifetime is not possible. They tech is defective, even intentionally offered knowing it's defects in order for people to buy new screens.
>>744547728>game changerPlasma did perfect blacks 30 years ago.AND they don't have any motion blur....But you all went and bought LCD's for some retarded reason.OLED is a joke. Calling it a game changer when it doesn't even match tech from 3 decades ago is the height of stupidity.
>>744554223I still have a ZT60 and Plasma is not better than OLED. Plasma blacks weren't perfect and they also have phosphor trails. Not to mention burn in was never solved and was much worse than what OLEDs are now.
Only combined with strobing aka black frame insertion aka pulsar.Otherwise you won't get to see the perfect response times in the first place.oled TVs are amazing. For desktop eh, they're the best, but maybe not worth the hassle.If you can buy only a single display they forget it. monitor + TV is the best and there's no way you will burn in if you leave the oled for only gaming and stuff
What is it about burn in specifically that seems to mind break so many people in here?Doesn't seem to be such a massive deal to me that my monitor is going to last 7 years instead of 9 (which is what my last IPS lasted). In fact, 7 years of a much better monitor seems like a better deal to me compared to 9 years of a much worse one. I'm not getting those 7 or 9 years back. I'd rather enjoy them on higher quality instead of saving a few extra bucks. I can make money back, I can't reroll the time I spent on something of lower quality.
I got one and it's really nice until there's a black loading screen and the blacks are so deep it reflects my pale ass titties in perfect HD back to me, reminding me of the worthlessness of my existence.Then the game loads and I' fully immersed again. It's a roller coaster
>>744554929Should have gotten matte instead of glossy.
>>744547728Only on games that actually support HDR and do a good implementation of it. Even then you have to use RenoDX to fix some of those native implementations like fixing the black floor.Injecting HDR into SDR games is where the improvements are more incremental in what you'll notice. I'm more speaking about HDR rather than whether OLED is a game changer. It's arguably alright for SDR and you'll get some benefits with things like being able to get deeper blacks i suppose and the actual response times will be the main draw.
>>744547728I love mine personally, but I almost wish that I had gotten a 4k one
>>744547728yep. i don't even care about burn-in anymore, if this shit breaks i'll just get another one. i think that explains well enough how much of an upgrade it is
>>744553745microled is not even close to being ready for mass production. the manufacturing process is extremely long and expensive, the pixel density is shit, and there's reliability/longevity issues worse than OLED associated with them at the moment. I would not expect to see widespread consumer (affordable) microLED any time before 2035 minimum
OLED is just the best way to experience HDR. Walking along dim caves and city streets, with candles and lanterns popping out of the screen. It's hard to describe why it's so good, the picture is just so deep set and tactile from the combination of perfect black and glossy finish. Having no black floor or inherent underglow makes everything look rich and physical, almost 3D. They are less convincing in bright broad daylight scenes overall, but even then, newer tandem models can hold 360 nits full screen white, and 800+ nits at around 25%.
what means a monitor has proper OLED or proper HDR support? I see everything these days claims to have it but I'm pretty doubtful
>>744553745>A led screen can't be expected to last without burn in for more than a few months.People really fucking need to stop parroting this kind of stupid ass shit. Even the stress tests done specifically to get burn-in that are nowhere near anyone's use case don't result in burn-in after a few months. Actually you know what? If you want to believe it keep going and enjoy years of horrible IPS (I've been there) or shitty cheap chink mini-led's, it's what you get for being retarded.
>>744559082>OLED is just the best way to experience HDR.It's my understanding that even if it is OLED, unless it has 500 or 600 nits+ then HDR wouldn't work that well. Most of the more budget options I've looked into are at like 300.
>>744560907Yeah a decent quality OLED is going to be $600 at least. That's not a great deal of money for a monitor IMO, I have a 27" Asus XG27AQWMG. I remember when we got our first flat screen widescreen LCD as a kid around 2004 and it looked massive, felt like having a cinema in the living room. My monitor is the size of that, and cost me less, even less still accounting for inflation. People pay that much for their phones.If money really is tight for you though rather than just being overly frugal with it, you could go as low as $350 for the Alienware AW2726DM. That monitor can hit 400 nits in a 25% window, probably more in a smaller window. You would still get really good contrast compared to a typical IPS display since the black floor is infinite. There are a few others around that price for similar specs.
>>744560907>It's my understanding that even if it is OLED, unless it has 500 or 600 nits+ then HDR wouldn't work that well.your understanding is wrong99.9% of OLED screens can do what he's describing (dark scenes with extremely bright (1000+ nit) small highlights)the 300 nit figure is literally for a full white screen. its a non issue
>>744547728Yup, it's great if you want to escape the shackles of IPS
>>744562289HDR is about range, don't need as bright highlights if the floor is infinite
Oh, fuck yeah it's worth it. Picked one up a few months ago and every game has looked kickass on this bitch. RE9 looked amazing. I notice things look a lot more clear in motion and there's zero ghosting.
>>744562935Which one did you get do you mind linking it?
>>744562093To go a little bit off track here, I really just dislike big screens for my monitor. For tv's, it's cool. But for monitor, 27 is pushing the limit of how far I'm willing to go. Anything beyond 27 I really would not like to have at all. Maybe that's why they start curving those bitches.
>>744551996Are you illiterate? He said actively using it for long periods of time, not leaving it on.
It's nice but you'll never have enough light to take full advantage unless you've got ring lights pointed at your shit, so don't bother stressing over it.
>>744551823>so why aren't you spooling up the original film reels when you view them?Because I'm already watching them on my projector.
>>744551834And yet no cinema in 120 years has displayed those films with HDR. IMAX is just BARELY setting up HDR theaters with Laser projectors. It almost as if.... HDR is a fucking scam.
>>744554223Plasma was discontinued because LCD was cheaper to export from the Chinese sweatshops. Its also retarded that OLED panels for years were literally made only by LG so if you bought a Sony or Samsung you were just paying for the name. I only experienced a Plasma once at a friends house and I popped in a black and white movie on DVD on his Blu-ray player and it looked like HD.
>>744554830Because your OLED is not going to last 7 years. These things are meant to be used for 3-4 years and then replace them with the latest OLED. At least that's how TV manufacturers are working towards because the smart app shit becomes discontinued and apps become unsupported.
>>744564348More realistically in 2026 I would give it between 5 and 6. For monitors. I don't know what's going on for TV's.
>>744559595OLED is a type of panel technology where every pixel is self illuminated. Meaning every pixel turns on or off. LCDs are back lit by several lights that turn on and off groups of pixels. So if a game has HDR where a 4 pixel wide light shines brightly it will make those 4 pixels glow, while on an LCD multiple pixels around those 4 pixels will also glow.HDR is basically post processing that lets the panel do highlights and shadows dedicated to the rest of the image while retaining color. Like imagine a red light, if you add more brightness it becomes washed out and pink. But a good panel can make that red light become a BRIGHT red that glows. ANY panel can do HDR, but it's only OLEDs with high brightness (NITs) capabilities that can actually showcase it properly. And you need to be in a dark room, beucase most OLEDs are not as bright as LCDs. Like the Switch 2 screen is LCD with wide color gamut and it does HDR.
>>744562995LG 27GX90A. Caught it for like $540 before tax as some kind of open box thing. Was mostly looking to get my feet wet to see if OLED was even worth it.
>>744564737Is that 480hz? Do you really need that much?
>>744564129>expanded color gamut is a scamlol the lies poorfags tell themselves
>>744554830>7 yearsAll the oled cocksuckers I've seen have admitted they'll replace their screen every 2 years. When I was young a 20 year old television was still working just fine. I have a monitor that is 7 years old now, about as good as the day I bought it and will probably last me another 7 because I refuse to buy this gay OLED shit that is bad for text and demands twelve kinds of babying just to get me into the planned-obsolescence cycle of constantly buying new shit like a retard. I refuse to spend car-level quantities of money on technology over a decade, it's insane how much fucking garbage I'm expected to have now. Fuck your smart TVs, fuck your OLED shit that has a half life for quality that can be measured in single digit years.
>>744564847>replace their screen every 2 yearsAre we having this conversation in 2015? What's going on?
I got an oled monitor for 900 dollars and bumped it into my monitor arm while plugging in cablesnow it has a small scratch in the cornerit's completely invisible unless I have the screen off and shine a flashlight on it but I still want to violently kill myself
>>744564847yeah I have a 7 year old IPS too and it looks night and day next to my new OLED
>>744564794I don't know if I need 480, but it seems like some games do benefit from having the extra space. I know when I use DLSS it's really smooth, but I don't overdo it. Usually 2x at most.
>>744547728As a modern display? Yeah. It eliminates a significant amount of input delay but not entirely. It also has the drawback of burn in.
>>744564997Explain to me why the biggest fanboy faggots of your shit say it is "bad for text" and "blurry". I am not a 2 year old. I do not need the loudest, most contrasting colors if I cannot also use it to read a fucking document, because I am not a retarded zoomer who uses their shitty mobile phone for everything.
>>744565013>benefit from having the extra spaceIs that true? Is 200 fps on a 240hz monitor worse than 200 fps on a 480hz monitor?
>>744565025I feel like you'd have to be trying to get burn in. I have a bad habit of just sitting on the desktop not doing anything and spacing out or walking off and letting it sit for a while and so far no issues. They have some preventative measures built into the screen to combat that. I think one says it shifts the pixels slightly every so often and you don't even notice it. Then it "cleans" itself when you shut down. I made the mistake of wiping the screen down during the cleaning process and it had streaks all over it. Thought I fucked it up, ran the cleaner again and it was good as new. I think this shit will last a long time, but I'm not on it 5-8 hours a day, either.
>>744565119what you can't afford two screens?
>>744564129Dolby HDR Theaters have been a thing for a literal decade. The fuck are you even on about
>>744565229A lot of monitors are shipping out with 4 year burn in guarantee nowadays, and since they obviously don't want to waste money replacing shit for everyone, you can assume they're pretty confident there won't be much, if any, before 4 years.If you look around, you do see reports of people at 6 or 7 that still don't have any. This really feels like a situation in which the technology is advancing while /v/ is still stuck using the same arguments as 10 years ago. >>744564847>>744564904
The good part about HDR injection tools like RTX HDR is that i can turn a lot of relatively older games from SDR into HDR and makes a big difference in non supported games. But there's a limit i would say on how far you can go with it. Only later 7th gen games most likely before it starts going past what a lot of developers intended since they were designing their games intentionally in SDR spaces for a while and bending the rules too much goes past the intended presentation. But it's certainly a game changer for a lot of things. It can transform your experiences of games that you like: even if you hate newer games. I don't know exactly whether OLED is the factor that changes anything though. I haven't seen the other display tech. And seeing the other display tech on actual HDR supported titles is why i can't comment on how big the differences are. I don't know much about whether the panel type is a big deal on games with good native implementations essentially.
>>744565562>RTX HDRDon't you need windows 11 for that?
Does it start burning in after 3 years?
>>744565348Why the fuck would I want two screens? I don't need some weirdo faggot setup where I can't use my desk for other shit. One big screen >>>>>>> your dumbass smaller games only screen and regular shit screen. I know how alt+tab works, unlike zoomer retards.On top of that, what kind of nigger do you think I am that none of my games have text in them?
there's a difference but you have to ask yourself if its really worth paying more for such a difference
>>744565375I initially didn't want an OLED because there was so much talk about burn in and stuff and everybody made it sound like it was a big chore to have one. Kinda think maybe it was a blown a bit out of proportion. I don't have to perform any dark rituals to maintain it. It's just another monitor except it looks better far as I can tell.
>>744565603I guess so in regards to windows 11.I just used it for Batman Arkham Asylum recently and it looks great in some of those older games like that. Pretty flexible in a lot of stuff.
>>744565671For a goon cave of course. NTA but I used my old IPS as a second screen next to my OLED but after seeing no negative effects for 3 years and 14,000 hours I'm going to just replace it with another OLED that I used as a TV. Yeah my IPS has lasted me over 10 years but it's not nearly as nice to use and I can afford a better screen so why the fuck not.
>>744565713It is
>>744547728>is it that much of a game changer Yes. Compared to my old monitor which was a 10yo IPS.>or at least worth the price?Depends since OLEDs are like GPUs where the actual part that matters is produced by 2 or 3 companies and there are different generations of matrices which burn out sooner or later anecdotal evidence is that it either will burn out completely in days or will work with no issues for years. I have bought a 27" samsung 3rd gen and have no complaints.
>>744552481There's no fucking way I'd have any regrets over that shit. I just got a 5070 Ti for $900, would have loved to get it at $750.I'm just extremely happy I upgraded to 32 GB of RAM like four years ago, just for the fuck of it because it was dirt cheap. Never thought RAM of all things would skyrocket, used to be something you barely even consider in the PC budget.
>>744565671
It is but I see no reason to replace my current monitor till it breaks down.
>>744565848>All desk space is occupied by screensFuck thatI have other hobbies and shit. Even with a U shaped desk setup, one table is for model kits, gun cleaning, any other craftwork, and another is for paperwork / other shit / drinks and storage / general use and gun cleaning overflow.
>>744549116Projectors are such a fucking meme. Always have someone try to get me to play games on a projector and it's always horrendously laggy. You don't need to be a pro gamer to realize that games feel better when they're responsive and your inputs aren't coming out half a second after you press the button
>>744565925>spend all your money on useless shit when your current shit works great, conspiciously consoom pointlessly always, save nothing, buy the new phone yearlyI'm not a nigger. I'm a human. I want to own a house, and I have other hobbies and things to purchase besides. I also save enough to live for a year in case I lose my job and need to find a new one. Because I'm an ACTUAL person, not a drone or a niggerzombie or whatever kind of cattle you think people should be. Kill yourself.
>>744566145go stick your guns up your butt lol
>>744565848I wouldn't want to hang onto a monitor for 10 years. At some point, some new hotness will show up and make me want to upgrade anyway. Right now, seems like the next big thing is cramming AI into monitors, which seems to me like we're about to hit a plateau and the high quality shit that's expensive now will be normal for entry level units, so upgrading/replacing could be cheaper. i had a new $200 IPS monitor that would have probably cost way more 10 years ago and it was perfectly serviceable for gaming in 2025.
>>744547728>is it that much of a game changernot really>worth the pricedepends on youI went for a 37" monitor instead of getting a OLED myself, and it was still cheaper on a sale
I just bought a 5080, which monitor should I get?Currently using this 4k Viewsonic IPS screen I bought like a decade ago. Thinking of getting a 1440p oled, but idk which one
>>744566263>37" monitorI probably wouldn't use that even if it was gifted to me. It's just way too big for a computer screen.
>>744566187I feel like we will get the same treatment as TVs, we will all be fighting for the "dumb" monitors while smart monitors flood the market for cheap , the entire LG situation is disgustingI miss my 4k dumb TV, had to sell it on a emergency and now im looking on pawnshops to get one since I rather just keep the streaming on a box you connect instead of embed on the tv
>>744566329it's cool for vidya, I can see why you wouldn't like it though, maybe its on the perfect distance for me on my setup, I'll probably get a regular 1080p/1440p monitor for general use later this year
>>744566329>37 too bigGet a bigger desk, put it farther back, more room in front for other shit. If that's an ultrawide, it's actually smaller than you'd think.>>744566363>smart monitorsI'm already mad just from the idea that those will exist. All of the fags behind "smart" tvs deserve a rope.
>>744566052It's called desk or wall mounts my guy. None of the screens occupy my desk space and they can easily be pushed away.
>>744566363If they want to have 2 models of the same thing where one has all the crazy AI/Smart stuff and one doesn't, that works. But if everything is going to ship with a bunch of extra crap I don't need or want to use, it's hard to see the point in paying for it. I still have no idea why we need AI in our monitors.
One of the bigger things I've found myself enjoying about my OLED is how there's zero distortion based on what angle you're seeing a part of the screen from, I don't know if the other nu-techs claim that or not too though
>>744566575>I still have no idea why we need AI in our monitors.to tell investors "see its used everywhere!"also collect data on your screenit slike the 3d fad but on crack, but now backed by governments
>>744566410>I'll probably get a regular 1080p/1440p monitor for general use later this yearYeah the idea of having a 1080p say 24 inches monitor for regular usage is pretty appealing. And then a bigger one for gaming.But as far as regular PC usage goes, 27 is my limit.
>>744554830>my monitor is going to last 7 years instead of 9OLED's last about 1 year.
>>744558513That just explains how big an idiot you are.
>>744564794You need 960hz to get rid of motion blur. (ie to catch up to plasma/CRT).
>>744564945based, I remember bumping mine on the desk slightly while getting it on the arm and thinking "yep I fucked it up"
ACK!!!!!!
>>744548540The early batches of the Tandem Giga/Asus/wahtever models had issues caused by LG, theyve since refined them so theres almost no banding on the 2026 models (from March and beyond) after the first pixel clean (the monitor prompts you on first boot) takes 3 min then you can use it as normal. I have the XG27AQWMG, it has none unless I massively overexpose by increasing shutter length on my phones camera. I run it at 22/100 brightness in SDR and 100 in HDR (brightness adjustable enabled) great monitor so far. Runs pixelclean automatically when in standby or turned off. I have prompts off. Make sure to disable the retarded OUTER dimming setting unless you enjoy a vignette.
>>744568582>ACKmeanwhile: overexposed photo of a freshly unboxed display from the early batches before LG fixed the issues AND before running the INITIAL pixel clean.Yep, got my Reddit Gold thanks anon!
>>744568670>Make sure to disable the retarded OUTER dimming setting unless you enjoy a vignette.what does this mean
>>744568860The monitors have settings to prevent burn in. One of those is called Screen Dimming which will dim the screen when static content is displayed for longer times. The other is called Outer Dimming which dims the sides of the screen, like a vignette, which means the entire screen becomes much dimmer at all times, this one, disable it, never turn it on unless you want everything thtat isnt dead center to be dim as shit. Can keep the various other features enabled like Logo dimming.
a lot of times its not burn in but image retention, I remember seeing someone using that option on the monitor and the "burn in" was gone
>>744565369And? You're still fake and gay because "Dolby Cinemas" are not available everywhere.>>744564819>Let's just add this artificial post processing to a film that wasn't shot for wide color gamut and was never what the director or cinematographer wantedAh yes, the I love these blown out reds and neon greens that look normal on SDR.
>>744547996the hardware unboxed guy has been using an OLED monitor purely for productivity, no gaming, for years and has yet to see any noticeable burn in.
>>744569105>m-muh rec709 content
>>744547728Prolly not but they're not that expensive anymore, I got my 65' C5 for 1000 eurosIf you dont play retro shit or care about HDR in movies it is prolly not worth it. I played fast paced shit on a VA for years and it was fine
So if I don't want to be worried about burn-in or having to do regular maintenance on a fucking monitor, what are my alternatives for a decent picture?
>>744566105Its because you're playing on a $50 Chinese no name projector.
>>744569191>regular maintenanceits a 3 minute process, thats done AUTOMATICALLY when in standby or turned off you retard>bbut i have to b-browse 4chan 24/7you can you know have more than one monitor>burn inyou can you know have more than one monitor, such as your current ips/va, you know, next to the new monitor, thats crazy I understand but, please understand saar
>>744569191>burn-inYou either immideately have it or it doesn't appear for years
>>744554223Plasma screens also doubled as a space heater.
>>744569141Yes, as intended by the filmmakers.
>>744569241I don't give a shit. I don't want to think about my monitor. It sits below even the speakers in terms of devices I want to think about. "Oh you just have to do this" my current monitors ask nothing of me and I expect future replacement to do the same thing.
>>744569154>65 foot TV for 1,000 EurosDamn, Europeans are eating fucking good. Trump was a mistake.
>>744569241>It turns on when you turn it off!!>Just get a second monitor!!Lmao the absolute state of burn in fags.
>>744568358OLED don't have any motion blur at all. They have stutter.
>>744569313It was during the final sale before they brought out the C6, but I figured the jump in price wasnt worth because only 77+ are tandem oled
>>744569281>his only movie content is sdrlmao lol >>744569363how come you indians cant afford a desk large enough to fit two displays? >>744569363>it turns on what turns on? the display is off, the process is automatic, the display is off, I repeat, the display remains off.>>744569295so stick with your hand me down TNs for $30
I'm still on 1080p LED monitors from like 15 years ago. They hit 144hz and do everything I want to for the most part. I would like to try out HDR and gsync but I don't think they are worth spending $500 on a lottery with how the hardware is these days.
>>744569397(Their joke was that ' is feet and " is inches, a 66 foot TV would be gargantuan)
>>744569368>stutterlil bro is playing his DOS games still>>744569413>gsyncevery single fucking monitor from $100 comes with VRR you retard
>>744569295Well, if it ranks lower than your speakers, don't worry about getting a decent a good one at all. Just keep using whatever you're using and stay locked out of OLED goodness.
mini-LED VA chads stay winning. Best of both worlds>but muh ghostingthere's no noticeable ghosting at 240Hz
>>744569415Yea I figured but it's still a great deal
Dunno my touchscreen IPS looks good, the backlight isn't very visible unless you really look for it, my second last IPS monitor was one I bought in 2006 and I used it until 2019, i like stuff that just werks, oleds have a limited lifespan
>>744569447That I don't want to think about them doesn't mean I want bad quality. It means simply that I don't want to think about them. My monitors serve me, not me them.But apparently quality and convenience are impossible to get together.
>>744569471Everyone went on about ghosting but I enjoyed my oddysey G5>mini-led VAProlly what I'll get next. My C5 is nice but I cant game on it for long
I have a SyncMaster from 2009. I like it so much, I bought 2 used ones as spares for when it finally shits the bed.
>>744569471>miniled>have to turn off local dimming in desktop/sdr content because algorithm doesnt know what to do properly>in order to solve the sdr issue (but not desktop issue) you have to run the display in hdr 24/7 where you cannot set your brightness anymore>still get blooming or inverse blooming>for desktop content you have to use it like a normal old 2000:1 va monitor>pixel shimmering due to slow pixel response>va smear is still a thing in content such as 4chan with Tomorrow theme or twitter dark modes>terrible viewing angles, even when sat perfectly centered the corners in particular (but also sides) will get washed out, the contrast also shifts depending on your vertical position, leading to either lifted blacks or crushed blacks in a scene>cant do very small highlights, no a 2% is NOT a small portion of your display, 2% is HUGE.
>>744547728No they are dogshit unless you live at a cave with zero light leaking to to your room, there is also issue with how dim they are both in SDR and HDR, garbage white color and everything is washed out at normal conditions during the day/night, wiped don't fix anything as you want glossy finish and it will have inferior colors to qdoled anyway, vrr flicker, burn in will always happen and only casuals could say it won't happen, text fringing plus purple tint is still bad unless you buy newest expensive oleds, grey plus vertical banding/raised black levels, automatoc screen dimming when scene is too bright. Sorry but they are garbage experimental products atm maybe in five years they will remove all those issues while I will stick to Miniled ips.
>>744569440>lil bro is playing his DOS games stillstutter is when content looks noticeably less smooth due to the lack of any natural motion blur from the instant response times of OLED. A 24p movie, or low framerate game, can be a worse experience than LCD without any motion handling like interpolation. I used to be very anti motion smoothing on TVs until I got an OLED.
>>744547728if i didn't have one, i wouldn't actually bother playing games. at least no games with any level of immersion, i would just play indie pixel slop until i could afford one
>>744547996
>>744569616>>have to turn off local dimming in desktop/sdr content because algorithm doesnt know what to do properlyno i don't. you must have a shit monitor.>in order to solve the sdr issue (but not desktop issue) you have to run the display in hdr 24/7 where you cannot set your brightness anymorewin+alt+b bro>still get blooming or inverse bloomingnot that i've seen>for desktop content you have to use it like a normal old 2000:1 va monitorand?>va smear is still a thing in content such as 4chan with Tomorrow theme or twitter dark modesliterally using it right now and see no smearing>terrible viewing anglesnot on my monitor>cant do very small highlights, no a 2% is NOT a small portion of your display, 2% is HUGE.i'll liveenjoy your burn in
>>744569648>400 nits fullscreen white in SDR is dimI doubt you even run your current IPS/VA monitor at maximum brightness ( they top out at 300-380 nits btw, unless we mean Miniled )>>744569654Your TV can literally sync 24, 29, 30, 49/50, 59, 60fps all you need on an LG TV is to enable "Real Cinema", not ot be confused with the true motion shit. Real Cinema just syncs refresh to the content you are viewing.
>>744548598It's more like buyers remorse thread. They wants us too get fooled and become as miserable as them. Oled may be as well reptilian overlord idea how to generate additional loosh from gaymers by annoying them and making them worry 24/7
Until either morden CRTs are invented, or MicroLED become affordable and reasonably sized, I'll be sticking to OLED.
>>744569757>Your TV can literally sync 24, 29, 30, 49/50, 59, 60fpsyou're confusing stutter with judder. It genuinely hurts my eyes to watch a movie on my LG G4 without "cinematic movement" turned on. Even that dude from HDTVTest said he recommended using it.
>>744569518You might be overthinking it. There really isn't much to it. You don't really have to do anything special. On one like I have, it "cleans" the image when you're already shutting down, then it turns itself off shortly after. You'll have settings in the monitor itself for preventing damage, most likely and it's not even complicated at all. If you're already in there tweaking your settings for your picture, it takes just a few extra minutes to go over them and see what's what. Hook it up, do whatever you're doing, turn your PC off, rinse and repeat. There's nothing too intense going on with these things. You can pretty much do your normal thing.
>>744569737Quit lying, there are literal tutorials here on 4chan on how to get your Miniled, even the very best models btw, to run "properly" with local dimming enabled and thats to run them in HDR 24/7 even at the desktop, but the caveat is you still get INVERSE Blooming or regular BLOOMING around bright things against dark backgrounds. Also the rest of your shit is obvious cope, because youre a retard with googly eyes.>enjoy your burn inMy C1 has no burn in despite wow classic being on the display for 8h a day with no burn in mitigations.>>744569851Vincent recommends real cinemaAlso no one else talks about stutter besides you
>>744569737why dont you record your amazing lack of blur/smear when scrolling dark content aswell as your AMAZING viewing angles? SAAR? WHATS THAT? YOU WONT REDEEM THE CAMERA?
>>744569105Am I supposed to care your poor ass doesn't have a Dolby theater near them? I've been going to my local one since 2015. Also doesn't even matter since projected film always had a higher dynamic range than SDR digital so whatever nonsense about nothing being designed for HDR is horseshit. The biggest thing about HDR is getting a clean roll off like film does instead of the hard clamps SDR had. It was a shitty limitation from the very start since film was always better and the first digital projections and digital shot films were always a downgrade.
>>744569281Filmmakers didn't use REC709 dumbass. They used DCI-P3 with a wider color gamut before HDR/REC2020 hit consumers.
>>744569981>Vincent recommends real cinema>Also no one else talks about stutter besides younot everyone has superhuman eyesight like me. I also can't watch a DLP projector because I can see the rainbow artefacts that none of my friends seemed to notice.also the cinematic movement setting on the G4 is genuinely really good. I never used the equivalent setting on my old CX because it looked like shit but the one on the G4 looks great.
>>744570189Not that guy but what should I get for best dolby support on pirated remuxes? ChatGPT is telling me to get a homatics box r plus and to flash coreELEC on it?
>>744568982i have an OLED with that setting enabled and i never even notice itwhat the fuck are you talking about
No just go with micro LED
>>744571218so turn it on and off retard, i doubt its even the same setting cus ur a retard
>>744571130That's for DV enhanced layers which I haven't bothered with personally. If I liked Kodi better maybe I'd bother since that's basically what coreELEC is. I think there's more than that box that supports it with coreELEC but yeah if you're looking for the absolute best quality then that's what you'd get. Not all Blu-rays have the enhanced layer either though.
miniled is cheaper with no burn in
everyone has one, join us in the epic club of screen champions, no downsides or worries, oled now is the perfect technology and mini led can't compete, not even close
>>744565375braindead shill
>>744569241kys
20 months of use btw
OLED is only good if you don't play games, i.e dadgamers who relax for 2 hours a week. Of course they won't encounter issues when they barely make use of their monitors
>>744569191VA mini-led, if you live in EU you're fucked since they're not energy efficient enough to be sold there.
>>744571809What can be worse than using a 10 year old argument? Oh that's right, not using any at all. Keep going lower.
>>744552481You can overclock the 5070ti and it'll be right there with the 50805080 is the worst 80 card in a long long time
>>744572695You don't play videogames, shill.
>>744570189You're talking about digital filmmaking. I'm talking about real cinema. When home video started guess what gamut they were using? Guess what gamut was the intention of the filmmaker. And guess why when we switched to HD SUDDENLY several transfers had fucked up colors that would eventually be corrected with 4k UHD releases.
>>744570054Better image/color is from the massive file sizes of movies we have now. Watch 4k rescan put on a Blu-ray and it still looks fucking amazing. HDR is only for shadow and highlight gimmicks. Yes, it's for making sure colors stay colors while fucking up highlights and shadows. But none of that shit was what the original filmmakers cared about. It wasnt their focus. HDR is a digital post processing. It requires the hardware to process extra data besides the film and sound. Its like a third layer of data. That shit is artificial. Yeah there is a High Dynamic Range in physical film, but it was never meant to be used outside of the color correcting process while in post production. Meaning in the cinema it wasn't supposed to be supported and on a broadcast it wasn't supposed to be supported and on a home video it wasn't supposed to be supported. Its like the software trickery of motion smoothing/frame interpolation.
>>7445719074 years of gaming and desktop. No hiding taskbar or icons or anything weird. Just treated the same as a regular monitor on for 12-16 hours per day.
>>744573812Anything beyond SRGB is a pure meme.
Since I like motion clarity and crts haven't been made for 20 years oled is the only solution for me.
>>744575013Monitors with nGreedia pulsar are also a solution.
>>744575076Pulsar brings additional downsides I do not wish to deal with.
>>744571545Minileds are nice, but still not as good as oled.I had a 27inch miniled panel with something like 1100+ dimming zones. It was better than a standard rapid ips panel in terms of local contrast and brightness, but also after trying a 32inch 4k 240hz oled I can't imagine going back to a standard LCD panel anymore.
>>744575282>Minileds are nice, but still not as good as oled.begone shill
>>744547963OLED is a good buy for long periods of gaming, no issues with my Asus one with the lighting or anything
The people claiming OLEDs will burn are the same ones who think Nvidia GPU cables will melt.It's just poorcope
Gsync pulsar is more important
>>744576001Let me guess, you don't even know the difference between the 8 pin and 12vhpwr spec?
>>744576125let me guess. you've never seen a GPU with a 12vhpwr connector in real life
>>744576001You are a moron. Burn in is literally an inherent nature of the way OLED functions. It will burn in at some point because that's the way physics work in our universe, it all just depends on how you treat the monitor and how much you use/abuse it. If you use it 16 hours every day and you regularly do the same thing(s) over and over, you might start seeing burn in as early as 2 years in.
>>744576185How long does it take? I'm on 4 years and around 10,000 hours. 2 more weeks right?
I'm not a meme consoomer so oled is worthless to me.
>>744576163So you don'tYou don't mind Nvidia saving pennies on the connector because you worship them
>>744576279so you've never seen one in real life. lol typical /v/ retard
>>744576249the burn in is already theredon't kid yourself
>>744576249>I'm on 4 years and around 10,000 hours. 2 more weeks rightLike I said, it depends entirely on how you use it. But the fact that you're using anecdotal evidence of your own personal experience just shows how fucking mentally handicapped you are.It's like someone saying "I've never met someone with AIDS, so it must not exist".
>>744576308>Nvidia has convinced retards to join their cult with no actual logic behind itGo on, name one thing the cable does better without appealing to faggotry and your corporate worship
The main benefit of OLED is that it absolutely skullfucks competing tech in darker scenes, especially IPS will just lose all near-black detail due to the background glow and night scenes look like crap on them due to that. Doesn’t matter whether we’re talking HDR or not, the difference is massive either way and going back is nearly impossible after seeing how OLED handles those scenes.Regarding burn-in, it’s a complete non-issue regarding varied TV and gaming use. I had LG OLED from 2016, used it for 7 years almost daily before donating it to my parents due to getting a larger one, and it’s still going strong there with no burn-in. And modern panels should be even more resilient to burn-in. With monitor desktop use, I’d probably be a bit more careful, but I wouldn’t worry a bit about game UIs.
>>744576371>OLEDs burn in after 2 years, and just because your own personal experience is 4 years without burn in then that doesn't mean I'm wrongTypical poorfag behaviour.
>>744576424Just admit you've never seen a GPU with that connector on in real life.
>>744576436>Typical poorfag behaviour.Damn, you got me.
>>744576563You have a 4090. That's impressive for a seething poorfag
Technology is always getting better every year. There is new models. That's how fast it gets outdated. Do not buy a new monitor unless yours is broken or does not take advantage of your hardware that's it.
>>744576591You got me. I'm such a poorfag that I got to retire at 36.
>>744576734>I'm not poor. I have a 4090, yet I act like a $1000 OLED would be a life-changing event, even if it ended up with burn-in.
>>744547728>buy new monitor>it installs literal malware in your systemt-thanks
>>744576792Where did I ever act like that or say anything like that? Are you a schizo or something? You made a claim that OLEDs don't burn in, and I simply corrected you by stating that burn in is inherent to how OLEDs function.
>>744576451See, I'm expecting some tech literacy from you You're giving me nothing but corporate worship What a faggot cultist you areWhy is 12vhpwr better?
>>744576906I said the same people spreading the end of the world OLED burn in are the same ones spreading the Nvidia cable melting cope. You got triggered. I was correct.
>>744577068>why is it betterBecause you can't buy a powerful GPU without it. I don't care what the fucking connector is. I buy a GPU for its performance.
>>744577119>say wrong thing>person corrects you>heh, you totally got triggeredI can tell that you are both brown and a zoomer.
>>744577227>Say wrong thingwhich was?
>>744576435Yeah, I have a LG OLED TV from 2019, zero burn-in. I don't think it can happen if you just use it "normally". Don't leave it on the same screen for days, turn off the TV regularly, etc...Now I'm using a laptop with an OLED screen and I'm being a bit more careful with taskbars and shit. But it's totally worth it.
>>744577182>I don't careSo you don't know But you defend it because you worship Nvidia You don't think for yourself, you suck dick blindly
>>744577250>people claim OLEDs burn in but It's just poorcope
>>744577361I said I don't care because I don't care. It could have a 12vhpwr or 4x PCIe cables on. It wouldn't matter. I'm not an autistic poorfag who hyper-focuses on a plastic connector or OLED burn in. I buy products for their performance and replace them if they break
>>744577402>they last 2 years which is poorfag cope. even if they did only last 2 years I'd just replace it every 2 years.
>>744577423>I don't care about the quality, i compensate for my retardation by throwing money at itDon't tell me that you're an iToddler too??Trying to squeeze out reason out of you is harder than drawing blood from stone
>>744577480>which is poorfag copeIt's not. You are just refusing to read and understand what I actually wrote. I literally said that if you play for 16 hours every day and you play the same game, you're going to see burn in. This is literally an undeniable fact.>even if they did only last 2 years I'd just replace it every 2 years.Why even bring this up? No one gives a fuck. We are arguing whether burn in happens or not. Your point about cost literally has no validity in this argument, because it doesn't fucking matter to the discussion at hand. You are 100% brown.
>>744577581>I literally said that if you play for 16 hours every day and you play the same game, you're going to see burn in. This is literally an undeniable fact.My screen has been on from when I get up to when I go to bed and has done every day since I got it 4 years ago. No burn in.Your facts are wrong. Poorfag
Even if you consider that OLEDs will feature noticeable burn-in within the first two years, it'll still look better than the out of the box horrid backlighting of an IPS monitor. You'll need like 5 years+ of burn in to match the horrible quality of an IPS.
>>744577646>My screen has been on from when I get up to when I go to bed and has done every day since I got it 4 years ago.So now you are just lying out your ass. Because previously you said you had only used it for 10000 hours in 4 years here >>744576249 which is less than 7 hours per day.You are a pathetic and retarded brown.
>>744577734>your screen will break if you use it 16 hours for 2 years>but having it on for 8 hours for 4 years is doing it wrong so it didn't break retard
>>744547728yes and yes
>>744547728sure if you're okay with getting a new one 3 times a year
>>744577786>7 hours daily use of varied gaming/desktop use/movies for 4 yearsvs>16 hours daily playing the same game with the exact same pixels in the same placesThese are two VASTLY different scenarios that will produce VASTLY different results. The fact that you can't even understand that just shows how incredibly clueless and uneducated you are about OLEDs. You trying to say "BUT IT AVERAGES OUT TO THE SAME THING" just shows you are unironically some 80 IQ brown retard.
>>744577897>he keeps repeating the same thing over and over, despite having been proven wrong about everything already
There's a stench of the londonjeet in this thread
>>744547728No. If you have to even consider flushing that amount of money down the toilet for a marginal improvement then don't bother.
>>744568321telling of how much of a poorfag you are
>If I buy a $1000 OLED and it gets burn in after 3 years how will my finances ever recover?
>12vhpwrno way fag
>240hz OLED >playing at 4K 100fps with VRR>retarded amount of flicker>still flickers locking the framerate because the VRR keeps freaking out and jumping up and down in game even though the fps is stable>but not in the menus because???>lock game at 100fps and lock monitor at 100hz with VRR still on>no more flicker explain thisam I a genius or a retard for fixing it this way
>>744578589It's called a variable refresh rateWhen you cap it to 100 it's no longer variable
I only get flicker on loading screens
>>744578648but I still have VRR on at 100hz and it doesn't flicker if I set it to 120hz with VRR and the game locked to 100fps it flickers again but not as bad as at 240hzwhy doesn't the monitor just match the fps of the game when the game isn't wildly jumping in framerate why does it work that way in menus but not in gameplaywhat is the downside of setting a higher hz monitor to lower hzwhat about the oled anti flicker setting the monitor hasI don't want to use it because I read it adds extra processingalso I tried it and at medium it still flickered and at high it disabled vrr completely
>>744547728I do office work so no, I need BRIGHTNESS during the day
oleds don't get bright enough for modern SDR content. Modern SDR content is intended to be viewed at 400-500 nits and oled screens basically can't do that fullscreen.
>>744578905SDR at 500 nits sounds fucking painful at monitor distances, sounds more like something you’d want from a TV in an extremely bright environment.
>>744569810>i-i-it doesn't l-look that bad in real life, you sh-shill!!!>just use bias lighting!!!
>>744578905why the fuck would you ever have a monitor that bright
>>744578589When will retards realize you literally do not need VRR at high refresh rates?My 360hz OLED has ZERO gamma flickering or tearing with VRR disabled. It's just not noticeable! hahaha! OLED gods stay winning
>>744579021>why would you ever want to view content as it was intended?gee i dunno there chief
>>744579101You're lying. SDR is 100 nit standard.
As a doom 3 enjoyer oled is the only option for me.
OLED technology is for entertainment, and PC monitors are essentially tools.These days, TVs absolutely have to be OLED. PC monitors don't.
>>744579360Wrong.
>he doesnt own a 100k microLED displaylmao, imagine being poor
>shit for text and regular desktop usageI'd get one for vidya and movies but I have more of an ergonomic autistic concern. I want my primary monitor be in front of me, and I want my primary monitor to be able to do all kinds of tasks. So the oled one would have to be secondary and I don't want to turn my head to game on my secondary one. Maybe the solution is to mount them on arms and move them around.
>>744547728I am considering one for retro games and emulators with crt-royale.
They don't make 1080p oled screens so it is a meme technology.
mini-led plaps oled
>>744579512Forgot to mention that I am cognizant of the fact that 4K OLEDs don't suffer from shit text but I can't run everything in 4k with my 5070 Ti.
>>744579512theres nothing worse about using OLED for regular PC use. stop being retarded and autistic.
>>744579591There are, but they are shitty little portable 60hz monitors, which is what poorfags like you deserve. Dance around the little tablet for me, jester!
>>744579431>wrongI use my monitors 18 hours a day. One of them is running practically the same program the whole time. No one in the entire world would recommend an OLED monitor for what I do. Replacing my monitors (which I use for "industrial" purposes), with an OLED screen just because it produces prettier images (relating almost exclusively to contrast) makes as much sense as a factory worker setting aside his safety boots to wear high heels while working, like a gay transvestite.If this applies to me, it also applies to everyone who uses their monitors for purposes other than pure entertainment.PC monitors have other functions besides making Netflix shows look better.
>>744579660>mini-led plaps oled
>>744579793this is a gaming board you fucking tool
>>744579707Are you telling me that sub-4K OLEDs having subpixel layouts that make text look like ass was all lies?
>>744579793I didn't ask, I didn't read, you're still wrong.
>>744579837>Uh... since this board is for gaming, this effectively means that all monitors will be used exclusively for gamingThis is the IQ of consumers who can't resist paying more for technology that's less suitable, durable, and useful for them.
>>744579828bought a shit one with a low amount of dimming zones just like OLEDtards talk about HDR despite their screens not having anywhere near the nits for ita good mini led has blooming you can only notice through a camera lens
>>744579892>Ahhh! Stop using common sense! Just buy the most expensive tech to end up with a less useful tool! Ahhh!The mindset of industry shills is feminine.
>>744579828>when you crank the exposure on your camera to give misleading pictures
>>744579917>Discussing OLEDs on gaming board>"bbbbut my niche use for work"stupid fucker
>>744579858yeah I can tell you for a fact that text looks exactly the fucking same on my OLED and IPS you fucking sperg
as a young thirdworlder poorfag i used lack of vidya hardware as a big incentive to study myself out of misery. would recommend
>>744579917>I WANT to use the shittier tech because I am so intelligent and above it all glad Im not a poorfag
>>744579932>mini led>not micro ledlol
>my job doesn't pay me enough to buy OLED ha ha
>>744547728It's a difficult topic. I have a 45" ultra wide oled from LG since mid 2023 over 10k hours of use.It look nice but most games don't take oled into consideration while making the games. Some stuff supposed to be black are not, it's sometimes too dark or not dark enough. Most oled displays are not made to display text, you need to run clear type and the result is not perfect.Oled anxiety is a thing you have it or not. If you have it don't get one it will be suffering. Also those monitors are higher maintenance compared to a regular monitor, you can't unplug them out of the blue, some have fans built in. LG is currently rolling out bloat ware through windows update...Overall I would say if you use your computer a lot (over 30h a week), have the cash for it, go for it. It shouldn't be a purchase that bleeds you, you are getting something with a shorter lifespan and still in the early adoption.
I'd rather ask /g/ for dating advice than ask /v/ to understand any of the technology it uses.
>>744579932I literally have a 1152 zone miniLED sitting right next to a QD OLED. I know the strengths and weaknesses of both technologies far better than you, because you have a double digit IQ and I have a triple digit IQ. MiniLED blooms, it doesn't matter what zone count or what native contrast the LCD layer has.>muh full white nitsActual idiot.
>>744580026This OLED shortcoming seems to be pretty common knowledge but sure, I'll believe some clearly bad faith fucker on a tibetian throat singing board whose entire argument is "trust me bro"
>>744579978Filename retroactively refuted you. You didn't even check the filename, you drooler! LMFAO! so fucking easy. this is the intellect and power of LCD poorfags? No wonder you're in poverty.
>>744580210i have 1800 dimming zones and its perfect im sorry you were not informed and picked a poor choicei have an oled and mini led tv as well as an ultrawide oled monitor and i pick the mini everytime
>>744578905They doYou're supposed to sit in a dim room with an adequately lit screen, that brings out the contrast and takes advantage of improved photosensitivity
>>744580301I also have a 2304 zone 4k miniLED in my office, sorry, poorfag.
everyone keeps calling mini-led shit when Sony, who have consistently made the best TVs, have ditched OLED in favour of it this year.
>>744580396The average TV buyer is a mindless retard who can't tell the difference anyway. Goes doubly so for "people" who buy overpriced trash like Sony TVs.
>>744580396TVs are made for goycattle and mini led lets them cut costs The average normalfag turns a 4k screen into a 720p screen with their viewing distance
>>744580396Yup - sony makes the best in what field they compete in which is why they ditched physical media for their games console. They ARE the best after all.
Thoughts on LG OLED TV?
>>744580447>hurr durr just glue your face to the screen
>>744580438>>744580447get a new script
Although I have never owned an OLED television and currently cannot afford one, I consider myself knowledgeable on the subject due to having watched a YouTube video seven years ago in which a logo became permanently burned into the screen.
>>744580481I have the G4 and it's incredible. Their software is getting some bad press right now for popup ads but its still the best TV OS out there. Anything else (especially android, firetv, and roku) is utter shit to navigate and usually doesn't give you enough control.
>>744580481Since the last update they are literal spyware sending screenshots of what you have on screen every few minutes
>>744580638What are the TVs like as a monitor? I assume they don't have the auto power on with the PC, but do you need to change channels or anything each time you turn it on?
>>744580662oh yeah heard about that, shame, was thinking of buying one
>>744580662>>744580717Turn off ACR and it stops
>>744580531>you're going off a scriptyour argument was appealing to authority, faggot>>744580517Your eye can perceive 60 pixels per degree5400 pixels covering your central 90 degrees, 2700 pixels covering your central 45 degrees Any more than that and you're wasting the screen
>>744547728>is it that much of a game changeryes>worth the pricenoyou have to be really rich to spend $800 on a piece of gear
>>744580841>$800?https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-go27q24a-27-qd-oled-240-hz-qd-oled/p/N82E16824012118?Item=N82E16824012118https://www.costco.com/p/-/acer-265-predator-x27u-oled-wqhd-240hz-gaming-monitor/4201005878?langId=-1>nooo i need muh 4k maymayhttps://www.bestbuy.com/product/msi-mag-321upxb-qd-oled-g-sync-compatible-32-qd-oled-uhd-240hz-0-03ms-gaming-monitor-with-display-hdr-tb400-dp-hdmi-usb-black/J3P7TXTKPR/sku/6677818?extStoreId=125>ACK!Tranny status: dilated.
OLED is better, but by like 20%. 30% if you have a shit LCD panel.
I really don't like the idea that OLEDs are by the very nature of their underlying technology going to be obsolescent. I still have some older screens lying around that I use as secondary monitors or for specific environments where I happened to need a screen in a location that I didn't initially expect, even if it's just temporarily. Those screens still work fine even if they're old as fuck. With an OLED I can never count on that. It's going to be e-waste at some point and then I have to get a new one.
>>744580662so some LG jeet has to sift through pages upon pages of my goon stash?oh well
>>744581303Sure, there's going to be better monitor tech eventually But you're taking about spending more than a decade of your life looking at a shittier screen
>>744581303>noooo some of these pixels are 1% different if im on a completely gray screen after 4 years of heavy use>now it's e-waste!!!grow up. also LCD is no less prone to malfunctions of this nature>yogore-mura defect>backlight LED failure>capacitor failures>stuck/dead pixels
>>744547963I still can't get used to mine but I'm using properly set up HDR not grey abomination you get out of the box
>>744581486and in the case of bright/hot as fuck miniLEDS, the various LCD layers literally warp and degrade in months in some cases.See: RTings TV longevity testhttps://www.rtings.com/tv/tests/longevity-burn-in-test-updates-and-results
what should i set my OLED hdr brightness to in kde plasmait defaults to 265 and says not to go above that, should i just leave it there?
>>744581486My DELL S2716DG that I got in 2016 for around 600 bucks is still my main PC screen to this day with no dead pixels under near constant use. Would have felt like a bad investment if every couple of years I had to replace it for another OLED that would cost even more at that refresh rate and pixel count.
So will OLED displays ever get rid of the risk of burn in?
>>744581946It's Organic. Organic will die
>>744581405It most likely goes through some ai for marketing purposes to build a better customer profile about you.
>>744554830Wait, you guys replace monitors more frequently than every few decades?Just swap the caps bro. One of my monitors is almost older than me.
>>744547963Fake problem. I've used many OLED screens before and my current phone has an IPS screen, it's still perfectly usable. My current monitors are IPS too.
>>744580396Sony sold to TCL last year. They no longer make TVs
>>744581946No. It is impossible. The best they can do is try to increase the time it takes for the user to notice it.
It's a meme. Just stick to micro led
>>744581486>backlight LED failure>capacitor failures>stuck/dead pixelsThese are almost irrelevant problems, because one of them can be easily fixed (capacitors), one is very rare (backlight failure) and the dead pixels aren't really much of an issue if they aren't factory defect.I have a 24 year old LCD monitor I use daily (that one has CCFL backlight tho) and it had many dead pixels on it from being so old. All I had to do is massage them a bit and all the dead pixels (that I found anyway) started working again.
>>744583052Lmao ok poorfag
>>744547728Depends on whether you work in a bright room or a dark room. OLED isn't great in bright lighting, but overall OLED is better for entertainment and seeing any piece of visual media in its ideal form.
>>744583464Poorfags are people (like you) who buy disposable devices that have to be replaced every couple of years because they can't afford quality.
>>744583990lmao OK poorfag
>>744580127do you think micro led monitors will be a thing before 2030?
>>744584169I don't think so, only a few manufacturers have that technology. The price is also directly linked to the number of zones. A monitor being very close to the user requires a lot of zones and I expect the price to be close to oled.
>>744566314Best of both worlds? 1440p performance and nice immersive screen? Go 3440 - 1440p, ultrawide.I'm having a blast with ultrawide 34" on my 5080:MPG-341CQPX-QD-OLED- But if you're shopping now for 34" ultrawide, there is no doubt that the new Dell Alienware AW3426DW is the best bang for buck monitor out there. I'd get that one. Look up some reviews.
>>744583052>I have a 24 year old LCD monitorlol lol lol
>>744583052>I have a 24 year old LCD monitor I use dailyThat's not the flex you think it is, early LCDs were pure garbage but we all wanted one because they looked sleek and futuristic >>744583990Holding onto something that was never good even when new is not smart or financially prudent. If you're going to make that argument you should have switched to a cheap LED backlit monitor ages ago and saved a few $ on electricity by now.
It's really good, but the monitor space is advancing really rapidly. I bought my 1440p OLED in 2023 for $1100 and I'm now planning to buy my next 4K OLED monitor for $1200 while my old monitor has halved in price. I would suggest getting a $500 OLED which are plentiful now, but do your research as modern 1440p tandem OLEDs have had banding issues. They are being rectified with things like RGB-Stripe, but those aren't available just yet. Just another indicator of how in motion the whole field is.
>>744568670It's not an early batch thing. It's a feature of WRGB layout that LG uses for its tandem WOLEDs and isn't going away. RGB Stripe fixes this but has visible green shift at pure white and grey screens. Granted, that shift is much more subtle than the ridiculous banding and dirty screen WRGB tandems have.
>>744583052Wild destitute build, I'm sure. Is your floor dirt?
>>744585193That monitor was fine when it was new, also expensive. over 2000 USD in 2002. Yeah, it's pretty bad compared to a modern wide gamut monitor, specially when it comes to the speed since early IPS is really slow. It does very good at displaying yt and other things I don't need on my main monitor though. I don't need to save money on electricity.Also OLED would be a better choice for saving electricity than a LED backlit monitor since I use that monitor in dark mode all the time.Too bad an OLED monitor would burn in 1 year if I subjected it to the same level of abuse.Replacing this with a brand new IPS monitor would cost about 860 USD right now. I'll do it if it stops working.
>>744586193>Replacing this with a brand new IPS monitor would cost about 860 USD right nowAnon what are you talking about? You can buy 4k/120 Hz IPS monitors for under $300. If you're going to look me in the eye and say that your 2002 LCD tricycle is better then I suggest spending money on meds or a pair of very good glasses instead.
>>744573812Real cinema isn't REC709 you dumbass and home video isn't fucking cinema except for nutcases like Lars Von Trier or Danny Boyle but even those retards that shot on DV have shot with a full HDR workflows today. The film industry created DCI-P3, which is what the majority of HDR is, because REC709 didn't cover what film could create. They've been using what we call HDR for 20 years now which was 5 years after the first digital intermediates were made for film. Before that they cut the film straight with moviolas and those prints you saw in the theater had a wider dynamic range than SDR. >>744573965HDR is a standard not some post process. Film highlights and roll offs are absolutely what the DP intended when they composed the film and SDR clips these roll offs. Filmmakers have always shot and graded for the theater and then a home grade might have been done after that. When you watch HDR today that is closer to what the DP originally intended for the theater.
>>744586193>over 2000 USD in 2002LCDs were very expensive in the first place, unless it has a polarising filter to mitigate IPS glow it has zero advantages over the cheapest modern IPS you can get now. Ghosting sucks, low resolutions and refresh rates suck. I did try switching to an LCD in 2006, then I saw what it looked like at night, felt the input lag and choppiness of 75Hz and returned it to the store the next day.Ended up sticking to my high-end CRT until 2012 when it became impractical to keep a 30kg monitor on my desk in the apartment I was living in.
>>744547728>PC gaymingjust let it go faggot, you wont be able to even buy new parts for you PC, you won't be even allowed to use your PC because it consumes too much power
>>744586392I am not buying cheap trash like that. I need a square-adjacent monitor just like this one. 5:4 or 4:3 at least. I could get a cheaper 5:4 one that has similar specifications, but if I'm spending money anyway I might as well buy a better one and that's gonna be around 750-860 USD.>>744586584I'm not playing games on that. It's my second monitor, for stuff to display beside the game. 60Hz or 280Hz would make no difference.
>>744586831Why the fuck would you be on LCD if you want a good 4:3? My Nokia 445 Pro takes an insane liquid shit in every metric on your IPS.
>>744564847Got my LGC1 for 4 years, no burn-in, cope.
>>744587070I'm not buying a fucking CRT lmao. I don't have time to repair that crap, nor do I have room for one. CRTs also make my eyes bleed unless they are above 85Hz.
>>744587263>I don't have time to repair that crap, nor do I have room for oneContradictory, if you had a job you would have room and if you were unemployed you would have time.>85HzMy brother in luddite my 445 Pro reached 180 Hz with motion clarity comparable to a 480 Hz OLED.
>OLED screen burns in after 15000 hours of use >oh well>checks store for latest model Imagine not being able to do this
>>744587463>we ignore the warping geometry. the edge fringing, the fading image, the size, the weight
>>744587597Just calibrate your shit, have space and don't lift it daily despite the temptation.
>>744587649I'd rather not have any of those issues
>>744587463>my 445 Pro reached 180 Hz with motion clarity comparable to a 480 Hz OLED.What resolution and what connection was it using?
>>744587707Sounds to me that you don't really care about monitor performance.
>>744547996Unless you leave your monitor running 24/7 and disable all firmware level burn-in mitigations; no, you're not only wrong, but retarded.
>>744547728imagine being to poor to afford a 800€ monitor lol
>>744547728For TV yeah, absolutelyFor a desktop monitor no, dont even think about it.OLED is not the tech for that
>>744581946Make it last as long as an lcd backlight failing or losing brightness? I think they can if it isn't already, it's a matter of heat management and stronger material. There's a reason why Oleds are now brighter. Tandems stacks are a big deal they should be x2 more durable than standard woleds, the organic materials themselves have been chemically upgraded, MLA gets more brightness for the same output, etc
>>744587774I don't really care about a CRT performance. The last CRT I owned was around 2004 and it was some large Sony Trinitron 21". It was supposedly one of the best CRTs you could buy and it was shit
>>744587463When I said I don't have room I mean my desk is placed in a way where I can't fit something that large on it. I'm not moving my desk to a different location for a boat anchor nor buying a new desk to move my computer somewhere else for that matter. CRTs are awful.>My brother in luddite my 445 Pro reached 180 Hz with motion clarity comparable to a 480 Hz OLED.I'm sure it did.
>>744587929they do refresh 180hz. But that's with severe image degradation/noise and running 400x360p
>>744581587Depends on what specific brightness value it is asking for - 265 suggests fullscreen brightness (as about 250nits~ is what most monitors do). If it is asking for peak value that is way too low.
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What would be the overall best current OLED monitor thats:27'-28'2560x1440obviously at least 120hzcan buy in europeThose specs only.Dont want ultrawide, 4K or more than 28'
>>744588012Yeah that's the problem usually, 85Hz usually results in a pretty decent resolution but getting a good resolution requires going below 85Hz. Doesn't matter though, I don't think you can buy any decent brand new CRTs at this point. They aren't being made.
>>744587764480p as it can't display anything below that and 180 VHz is out of spec, it's supposed to cap at 165 Hz but will actually accept any VHz you feed it within dot frequency. I usually kept it between 1800x1440p 80Hz and 1440x1080p 120Hz for desktop and everything old or emulated was at said 480p/180. The connector was Displayport to VGA.
>>744588106the cheapest 27" 1440p 120+ Hz OLED
>>744588106Asus XG27AQWMG. Tandem OLED panel, over 1,5000 nits peak luminance, 360 nits full screen white, 280hz, 26.5". It's the best monitor in that market space by a fair margin and reasonably priced compared to others as well, you can pick one up for €530
>>744547728It's hard to gauge from random posters because most people are morons who don't even calibrate their displays and use everything on factory settings.
>>744588373>1440p tandem Why would you recommend a monitor that will only give people buyer's remorse the instant they open a gray screen?
>>744588373>Tandemnever buy first gen hardware
>>744588373thxWhat year is that model?Anything special for anti burn-in or all modern OLED monitors are the same in that regard?
>>744588336Need full model name
>>744588497This. RGB Stripe tandems are coming out this autumn/winter so it's better to wait if you want explicitly a tandem WOLED panel. Get QD-OLED unless the text fringing gives you a meltdown or just wait (tm).
>>744588494>oh no, it has faint imperfections in laboratory test scenariosYou will literally never, ever see a grey banding issue while playing a video game or watching a movie unless you walk up to a grey wall and stare at it on purpose in order to reproduce the issue.>>744588536All decent OLEDs from reputable manufacturers have anti-burn features, pixel refresh, logo detection, and proximity sensors. Budget panels from tertiary brands may not have these but any proper monitor from the past couple of years is going to have them.
Will OLED monitors ever solve VRR flicker?
>>744588775Discord is gray background. You can probably see it if you open discord.
>>744588742Can i just get regular old WOLED?
>>744588784Probably not but VRR flicker isn't really a thing outside of loading screens unless you're doing something very wrong like running a game at an unstable 30-50 fps. The assumption is that you have the sense to tune your game to a stable 60+.
>>744588775damn son I wonder what color your post is displayed on right now
>>744588085Let me guess you're one of those guys that will defend sRGB to death because you still use a CRT. Real life isn't in that color range. Go outside and touch some grass. You'll see it's actually greener than what REC709 can cover.
>>744554223I still have a 2008 full HD Panasonic Plasma, I quite like it. But I recently got a cheap 180hz IPS monitor and the refresh rate makes a bigger difference to me than the Plasma's picture qualities like high dynamic resolution, good blacks and stuff like that.Even for movies I switched to using the monitor because I can run it at 144hz and no longer get any camera pan stutter that I would for watching 24fps content on a 60hz screen.The freedom you have in getting smooth content at any refresh rate on a gsync display far outweights anything else to me. Haven't turned on my Plasma since getting this monitor.The color calibration that came out of the box was complete fucking garbage, however. I was afraid it would be unusable to me before spending a long time calibrating, didn't think it even could look good, but it ended up close enough to what I'm used to from the Plasma.
>>744588106you need>BFI/ELMB to remove sample and hold motion blur>no DSC unless you have the rtx5000s (even then I don't recommend using DSC except for 240hz+ where that's unavoidable at higher res)>No QD Oleds because they burn in faster and have fake blacks, except the latest gen but I'm still not sureHere's a rough list>Gigabyte AORUS FO27Q3 (or MO27Q28G) >ASUS ROG Swift OLED PG27AQDP / PG27AQWP>Sony InZone M10S II>TCL M27H36B (or 27X3B)I didn't check these 16:9 models too much myself because I'm focused on ultrawides (so I'm looking at ROG Swift OLED PG34WCDM or PG34WCDN personally) but fuck any gaming focused display that don't have a BFI option and fuck DSC as well (increase input lag in certain cases and can introduce microstutter, so stick with DSC off unless you're running a res and refresh rate that not even the true DP2.1 bandwith can't handle)
>>744554223Oleds don't have motionblur if you know what to look for. They have perfect black as well. They aren't stuck to 60hz 1080p also.
>>744589030>>744588814>oh no when i'm talking to some indians on 4chan or getting groomed by a tranny on discord the background color will be imperfectMeanwhile for people who actually play video games, it's the correct choice.
>>744563068Same. My current one is 24 and that's more than enough to me. I could go 27 if I needed for better specs but I'd rather stay at 24.
>>744589163ngl I am a bit concerned about my upcoming AW3926QW upgrade due to needing to run HDMI 2.1 with DSC. From what my research it shouldn't matter, even the manual for the monitor says it can run full speed with HDMI 2.1 without issue.
Pro CS players don't use oled and they sure know a bit more about gaming than you do.
>>744583052notice how defensive OLEDfags get whenever you mention tech that isn't designed to actively try to brick itself
>>744563068>>744563068https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3p_vIsXpATQ
>>744589537>Pro CS players don't use oled and they sure know a bit more about gaming than you do.No they don't. They know about e-sports. I played, enjoyed, and appreciated far more video games than any one of them.
>>744589537They know more about CS
>>744547728Yes. I dismissed oleds as a meme until I actually got one. I still have my ips and it looks dogshit next to the oled. Once you experience it you just cannot go back.
>>744589537Pro Smash players use CRTs and they sure know a bit more about gaming than you do.
>>744589537If you don't care about picture quality then yeah you can use a 540hz TN panel like they do.
>>744589760You've made a bit of a mistake there - pro smash players know more about being child molesters, not gaming.
>>744590117There's no difference.
>>744590117yeah he said CRT, child romance techniques
>>744589163DSC is only broken on nvidia under certain setups.
I haven't controlled shutter speed or anything so it's not a perfectly accurate comparison, but this is my (quite good) IPS vs my OLED TV in Reanimal.I'd say OLED is worth it for media consumption/gaming.
>>744590598now come back in two years when that oled looks slightly worse due to some mild burn in
>>744590702Without abuse you can easily get 10 years out of a modern OLED without any burn-in or notable image degradation and even then it takes a wild shit on that IPS in its prime. Some top of the line mini-LED IPS might fare better but that's not being compared here.
>>744590702We'll see about that, I've had my laptop for almost 3 years, doing work with static content every day and there's still no burn-in yet.
>>744590328It's fundamentally shit in all setups Nvidia or otherwise.
tempted to splurge on an LG G6 55" as a sofa set up computer screen
>>744590974>incoming poorjeeter rage
>>744590974You're doing it wrong. You have to satisfy the anti-oled poorfags specific test by keeping a static WOW GUI present for 20 hours per day for 2 years solid.
>>744591117At max screen brightness.
>>744590974What are those splotches?
>>744591039i have never seen a KB/M setup on a couch that looked comfortable
>>744591226These or just a controller with gyro
>>744591226All you need is a big glass mousepad and a pillow to support your keyboard arm
>>744591091>>744591117Why does OLED trigger people so much?>>744591195Reflections, it's a glossy screen
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>>744589137Oh yeah, another thing that makes me like using the IPS monitor more than the Plasma is that it doesn't get the room nearly as hot. Is this an issue with OLEDs or are they cool as well?I used to think I was a image quality over anything else kind of person but quickly found out that wasn't the case after getting this monitor.
>>744591841Plasma was notoriously power hungry, everything else is a massive improvement. Also 120Hz is better than 144Hz since it's divisible by 24, 30 and 60 which are the most common frame rates for video, you're not going to see much of a difference in games going from 120 to 144 anyway.
>>744579837>ThIs Is A gAmInG BOARD11!1And some of us aren't console plebian negroids / phone goblin zoombies, that have actual things they use a computer for besides gaming.
>>744591973I just set MPC to switch it depending on the video's framerate. For general use I like to keep it at 180 because even though it's true that for most games past 120 it doesn't really matter that much, for rhythm games specifically I feel like it's worth it, and I like playing those.Even FPS I don't really care much past 120, but the constant scrolling of rhythm games really benefits.Well, more like 171 than 180 so it stays in gsync range always and keeps input lag to a minimum, but yeah.
>>744580638>TV OSUnacceptable and the people that pushed it are vermin that deserve death. A screen needs to translate signal, nothing else. "Smart" vomit is slower and worse in every way compared to old tvs that just turned on instantly.
>>744592039What do you do on your PC anon?
>>744592164>MPC I hope that you meant to type MPV
>>744591398Same reason why any new tech like dlss triggers people. They cannot afford it so they need to sour grapes the tech and then project it on to everyone else. Sad really.
Glossy WOLED doesnt suffer from purple blacks anymore, atleast not Trueblack coating
>>744592474where did you get the stand for your phone?
>>744592474>nice monitor>that fucking desk
>>744590702What effect would burn in have on that scene?Light burn in is basically invisible outside of solid colorsEven heavy burn in is hardly noticable in most scenes
>>744592474As long as they keep the white subpixel the brighter the screen gets the less colour volume you get precisely because it is the white subpixel that is pushing brightness.and not the rgb parts. Of course though washing out a screen is a GOOD THING as only peak white matters.
>>744575610said the miniled shill>>744571907My C1 is like 6 years old and has had wow classic on it for 8h a day since, with no burn in, sounds like a you problem
>>744576734"retiting" and living off of neetbux isnt the flex you think it is
>>744592510The new model doesnt come with phone stand anymore, but with better coatingIts really good even in bright light>>744592621I was worried about that a bit, but atleast the way I use it, in SDR with low brightness it seems excellent.Default calibration is acceptable, I measured with colorimeter.What the white subpixel does do in reality is create absolutely flawless text with no fringing
>>744585502No, it was an early batch thing as has been proven by the latest batches from 2026 not having the issue after the initial first-boot clean.
>>744592474You mean QD oleds right? But yes, it's a bit better now.
>>744592595youre on /v/ on 4chan where they think that slight burn in means your display is unusable, despite them having way worse clouding (and dse) out of the box on their ips/va monitors (that also grow worse over the years)
>>744592947Based fellow C1 chad. Also same, but only 4 year old.
>>744593057>in SDR ...means nothing as the upper limit of brightness in SDR mode is what all of the subpixels can reach. What matters is when HDR is in use and the screen goes bright does volumetric collapse come into play which is why you can have a woled outputting more light than a qdoled but is not perceptually brighter. Problem is understanding this is getting into the weeds of how these displays work and isn't an easy number to slap on the box.This is why statements of "oled doesn't get bright" is a critical misunderstanding of the difference between how manufacturer numbers are reached and how people actually perceive a displayed image.Some further reading for anyone who actually wants to learn moar;>https://tftcentral.co.uk/articles/comparing-oled-and-lcd-brightness-and-exploring-samsung-displays-truebright-certification>https://tftcentral.co.uk/articles/exploring-oled-brightness-improvements-woled-vs-qd-oled-and-the-need-for-new-metrics-and-specs
>>744593271Its all a bit tardedThe OLED on my phone is burned in a fair bit, and it still looks way better then any LCD phone displayOh no, a bit of ghost UI scary id rather have my entire display be washed out with no proper blacks thanks
>>744593536That looks like retention because your "burn in" has color (purple) burn in doesnt have color
>>744593873It sure is burn in.Got the phone for a few months now, and the mobile game UI is still visibleBurn in on OLED can have color because its actually burn out, and its possible for only certain colors to burn out>>744593523Yeah I know about HDR issues with WOLED, but I dont use HDR anywaysSDR >50% brightness gives me a headache on this screen, its plenty bright
>>744592178you never want to change the settings on your TV?
>>744594484thats not the OS you dumb faggot, even CRTs form the 90s have a OSD where you can change settings
>>744593523>when screen goes bright>color volume dropsas compared to what.. QDOLED TVs?Because QDOLED monitors cant even get bright in the first place, theyre TB400 monitors and need literal bandaid "fixes" like EOTF boost to fix their HDR1000 modes lmfaoTheres no real scene scenario where a Tandem WOLED is worse than a 4th gen QDOLED monitor in HDR.
>>744594682thats literally the OS retard. you have to navigate the OS to change the settings on a TV.
>>744576125>>744576279>>744576424>>744577068>>744577361>>744577557nta but what's the difference between two?
Anti OLED pajeets are bad, but its like this for every display techI used to browse CRT threads and the amount of misinformation retardation there was unbelievableWhat is it specifically about displays that attracts the dumbest loudest retards?
>>744594870no faggot, the OS is the GoogleTV shit webOS etc. that is built into the fucking TV
>>744594979i dont even know wtf it is you dont understand about my very simple statement
>>744594871One catches fire and the other does not.
>>744588106>Dont want ultrawideYou are missing out.
I just cant believe they still havent fixed banding
>>744594871One connector is found on budget GPUs, while the other is used on high-end GPUs. In other words, it’s just a poorfag cope.
>>744547996>bro tells the truth>"no u poor"shills mad
>>744595342>people take a break to give the panel a rest >he tells the truth third world education system at work
in the last week i have seen 10 OLED shill threads... whats going on?
>>744595460We get paid to post OLED threads.
Shitskins mad about oled
>[item] is expensive in india>/v/ shouts that you don't need ithmmmmmmmmm
>>744593271There was someone ITT earlier trying to suggest that somebody shouldn't buy one of the best OLEDs on the market because of grey banding which outside of test patterns because it would look slightly worse on 4chan and Discord. As if anybody should ever be deciding what monitor to buy based on how those two things look.
>>744595915>>744595760>if you dont buy oled you're a jeet!!lol the ironing
>>744596074
>>744596098>instant seethei accept your concession
>>744596074Let me guess your hand me down TN from 2004 is still slapping?
>>744596167>you're seething because I can't afford an OLEDnah bro. you're good
>>744596202>>744596172>saar pls redeem oled expensive is good for izzat pls buy
>>744596269I'm sure you shrieking out over OLED proves you're a fellow white
>>74459487112vhpwr is a much shittier cable with much lower safety standardsi'll start with its benefitsit takes less space for the amount of power it deliversthat's it, it was made entirely so nvidia's faggoty founders editions look betternow for the drawbacksatx 8 pin is made of 3 wires that each transfer 50w, 150w totalthe entire connector and wires rated for 250wthat means that even if one of those 3 wires fails it's still within specif 2 fail then you're delivering 150w through a wire that was rated for 83w, it could cause a problem but it won't be disastrousmeanwhile 12vhpwr is made of just 6 pins and the connector is rated for 684w, 114w per wireif one of them fails then you're immediately going over the rating and that can cause a cascade of failures1 wire gets unseated and you're immediately pumping 125w through a wire rated for 114wthe 8 pin is also much safer because the plug is better engineered, it's robust as shit and the lower wattage delivered by those cables is way more forgiving
>>744547996Literally just have the screen protector settings on and have it at like 75% brightness instead of 100. Congrats itll never burn in
>>744596351>no saaar im white pls redeem
>>744596450why are you quoting yourself
>>744554223Plasmas were also expensive to repair and replace the bulbs
OLED clearly looks better than LCD so why is this an issue?
>>744596009banding actually sucks.Its the one thing I was dissapointed about with my OLEDSure its not THAT bad, but I cant believe they havent solved that yet
>>744596552you clearly dont know how plasma even works.CRT is the only display type where you can really "replace the bulb" apart from early CCFL lcds
>>744596582Just like how people were refusing to acknowledge SSDs got significantly better at not failing, people refuse to learn that monitor OLEDs have rapidly gotten better
>>744596686Plasma's are capped at 100 nits mad brightness
>>744596686I had a 60 inch plasma tv in 08 that had the bulbs die out at least twice
>>744596376The pins on 12VHPWR are notably smaller than 8 pin PCI-E connector too. Smaller pins, more current per pin, more current per wire. It's just bad in so many ways. You'd unironically be better off delivering 600W through 2 8 pin PCI-E connectors than you would be delivering 600W through a single 12VHPWR and the former is massively out of spec.
>>744596628I don't get banding. Do you have yours set to 10bit or 12bit?
>>744596628This looks more like a source material problem to me, Im assuming youre not downloading proper remuxes but instead getting the lowest sized, most compressed h265 hevc shit you can find also remember to set your display to sRGB and disable windows auto color management
>>744596783if it's out of spec then why does the Nvidia RMA chart only occur in spikes after new GPU launches? Surely it'd be a steady flow of failing GPUs.
>>744564069From a digital source.
sorry shills but i still won't beta test your overpriced OLED monitors
>>744596948post your hand in front of your current monitor and tell us what the monitor model is
>>74459680110 bit, but doesnt matter.Its a panel defect.Do you have qd oled?Seems more like an issue with LG panels>>744596816???No, banding is visible regardless of the content in grey imagesNot talking about color banding in media, different phenomenonIts not bad on my panel, but noticable if you look for it>>744596761Plasmas dont have bulbs saar
>>744596993>Seems more like an issue with LG panelsI have LG panel. It's got perfect banding. Just tried this. Every colour is smoothhttps://display-test.app/
>>744596980post a pic of your nose first
>>744596993You should tell us what model you have and if you have the latest firmware or not and I mean firmware not whatever windows installs for you.Asus XG27AQWMG has a firmware, MCM107 that reduces gray issues a bit. But that model from march 2026, doesnt really have banding issues on gray after the first clean.
>>744597126>they never do the hand test I wonder why?
>>744597063I am not talking about colors, its grey bandingOled has issues with grey uniformity
>>744597206It sounds like you don't know what the fuck you're talking about
>>744597206Gray is a color.
>>744597202>they never do the nose testinteresting...
>>744597252It sounds like you sont know what grey banding is kek>>744597179XG27AQDMGRPixel clean did nothing for banding, still looks the same after 2k hours
>>744597351Do the colour gradient test and set the resolution to 256 steps you fucking mong
>>744596628It doesn't bother me remotely. I have an Asus panel so it's not exclusive to LG. When I first noticed it in dark theme websites I thought "oh, that sucks I guess" and that's as much thought as I ever gave it. Because I bought it to play games, not to admire how pretty and uniform grey backgrounds in apps look, and games look exceptional on it.
>>744597398dude shut the hell up you dont even understand what we are talking aboutThis is the issue OLEDs have with banding, nothing with colors
Why is the top monitor much more expensive than the bottom 2? Is it worth the price?
>>744547728People say OLED is really bad for reading with unfocused fonts at pixel level, so I'll stick to my IPS until that's fixed
>didnt fall for the widescreen meme>didnt fall for the curved meme>didnt fall for the 500hz meme>didnt fall for the 4K meme>didnt fall for the OLED memefeels good to not be a stupid goy
>>744597519>here's my shit $400 OLED which can't do gradients fucking lol
>>744547728Yes, just bought a glossy QDOLED and it's a game changer, I almost fell for the matte meme but reflections are nowhere near as bad as fearmongers claim
>>744596902I said that 2x8 pin PCI-E providing 600W is out of spec.Each 8 pin PCI-E connector and cable is rated for 150W. 12.5A at 12V. That means the maximum 2 of them can deliver in spec is 300W.600W would not be out of spec for 12VHPWR connector, even though in theory that connector has lower power limit with the same safety margin as 2x8 pin because it has more amps per pin (2x), more amps per wire (2x) and smaller pins. If you don't understand what that means, it means that the 8 pin PCI-E connector has a very large safety margin, while the 12VHPWR connector has razor thin safety margin. If you pulled 300W from a 8 pin PCI-E connector, even though it's only rated for 150W you'd be about as fine as you are if you pull 600W from a 12VHPWR.It's not exactly surprising that there are failures with 12VHPWR. It should be a 300W connector.
>>744597580That's a flat color. It would actually be imperceptible on a gradient.
>>744597510>Asus PanelMy monitor is Asus too, if its Woled its an LG panelonly LG and Samsung make OLED panels at the moment, if you have QDOLED you have Samsung, if Woled its LG
>>744554929>>744560907Do you guys just not have indirect ambient lights? Why tf would you want to use your computer in a bright environment. Even microsoft word has dark mode now. Just buy some light strip and protect your retinas.
>>744597557>he fell for the 240hz meme
>>744597673this retard isn't looking for truth, he thinks 12vhpr is good because nvidia uses it and nvidia knows bestan actual cultist
>>744597580For you my ESL retard.Nothing to so with thr issue at hand but enjoy my beautifull panel
I still play console games on a TN 1080p 60Hz monitor from 2012. For PC, I use an IPS 1080p 240Hz monitor from 2023. I will never buy a meme burn in OLED monitor that requires breaks and cooldowns
>>744597752this looks so fucking gay and trans coded, why would a man want his room to look like this?
>>744597673>It appears there is a misunderstanding. I possess unparalleled intellectual capacity, surpassing even the expertise and knowledge of engineers at leading technology companies such as Nvidia and Intel.
>>744597787>futaopinion disregarded
>>744597787>>744574034
>>744597585It is a legitimate issue, not fear mongering. I game in bed on my laptop's OLED panel, and I could see my face like a mirror with any amount of ambient light in the room. Even the light from the screen itself was enough to reflect off the magnolia walls behind me and lift the black levels. I covered the wall behind me in black foam acoustic tiles and now with the blinds closed, I can only see a faint smudge where my face should be, even on a bright sunny day, because there is not as much light bouncing around to illuminate it. The difference is humongous. So it depends entirely on your room setup.
>>744597860https://www.techpowerup.com/348229/nvidia-paid-out-1000-more-for-warranties-in-2025-compared-to-2024
>>744597681Your shit $400 monitor can't do flat colours then lol
>>744597351XG27AQDMG(R) shouldnt have any gray banding at all
>>744597997>Nvidia paid out more warranties >because they sold 100,000,000,000 GPUs to data centres.
>>744597860fucking predicted, faggot >>744597779
>>744597787>covers camera lens in vaseline to smear out the gradients so they appear smoothholy shit some of you guys are literal cavemen retards, also very brown coded post, holy fucking shit lmfao
>>744598039>datacenters use consumer GPUSyou tried
>>744598039This connector is not used in data centers.
>>744597752>buy a super bright monitor for a premium>buy a bunch of extra lights to make the monitor seem darkerJust buy a darker monitor...
>>744597997>when it averages out AMD actually has more RMAs than Nvidia lmao
>>744598103And? The statement was RMA. Not specific RMA due to a cable
>>744598006Flat gray specifically. Colors are fine, certain shades of flat gray display banding.
>>744598128Thats a very high figure for AMD considering AMD gpus make up like less than 10% of the market
>>744598187literally every product on the planet has a 1-2% failure rate
>>744598159RMA isn't even a B2B process. Nvidia isn't selling broken hardware to data centers.
>>744598187>nigga doesn't understand per capita Haha classic!
>>744598128that's an accepted warranty rate, not how many are claimednvidia has professional oven dodgers like asus, msi, gigabyte that are pros at declining warrantiesamd has sapphire, xfx and powercolor which are nowhere near as hostile and soulless so they will accept those warranties
>>744598007mine didnt get the memo it seemsBut fantastic monitor nonetheless
>>744597997>AMD is blue. >Nvidia is green>AMD sells GPUs at the rate of 5% of what Nvidia sell >By the retards own link it shows AMD have more returns while selling less GPUsha ha ha
>>744598398>only the graphs which prove my point count lol
>>744598449londonjeet lmaowhy don't you get yourself banned again? jannies are itching to do so, no one wants your bootlicking here
i got my chinese 1440p IPS for $200 and its amazing, went to check my friends new AOC oled (the top seller on amazon) and for more than twice the price its absolutely not worth it, even more when you factor burn in, my last ips lasted 10y
>>744596582>OLED clearly looks better than LCD so why is this an issue?Burn inVRR flickerGrey uniformity, dirty screen effect
>>744598705Curious, no OLED user wishes to switch back to LCD
>>744598705>Burn inBy the time it happens I'll be buying a new screen anyway >VRR flickerOnly happens on loading screens >Grey uniformity, dirty screen effectNever seen it/don't suffer with it on good screens
>>744598784>Never seen it/don't suffer with it on good screensits a thing on most oled panels, but its not that bad anymore
>>744598705>burn inDSE/Clouding, same thing, except from day 1 and grows worse over time, seen across most content, especially panning content>VRR Flickeroccurs on VA, Miniled IPS and VA aswell (not to mention zone flicker on the latter 2)>Grey UniformityNot an issue because 99% of content isnt solid gray and the tandem issue was solved from March 2026>DSEDay 1 issue on IPS/VA
>>744598754People lie on the internet.
>>744547728It'll seem like a cool upgrade for maybe a week, then you'll get used to it. Before that though, the dopamine hit from your desire to spend money will fade. Before long you'll be seeking your next fix.
>>744598754I used to have an OLED phone (Samsung Galaxy Note 8) and I switched back to an IPS phone.
>>744598930Is this what you tell yourself in order to cope?
>>744598974>ips phone>in 2026what is it, a DORO?
>>744598930why would anyone lie about what monitor they use?Delusional pajeet go play in shit some more
>>744599007CAT S62 Pro and it was years ago that I switched.
>>744599007best girlbest phone
>>744598506>if i'm ignorant to the fundamental difference between amd and nvidia board partners then i can keep copinglol
Just done the grey uniformity test. All brightness levels. No dirty screen. No banding. Just perfect.
>>744599142>I need to defend buying a midrange GPU Have fun I guess
>>744599152You're lying you bloody bitch benchod!
>>744599152what model?
>>74459921348GQ900
>>744599192>i need to defend nvidia raping me and shaving off pennies on a $2k gpucultist
>>744599326Whatever makes you feel better about not having something. You carry on. There's nothing you can say that will ever make me wish I had something different to what I already have.
>>744599276interestingmy panel is much newer but has some level of bandingCould you post an image of grey?
>>744599420
>>744599537now show which ever is 1 step away from the darkest either 5 or 95%
>>744599410>there's nothing that can make me think analyticallyi already know you're retardedbut no one makes you fanatically defend a corporation that's shaving off pennies off a $2k product, that's entirely on you, you're a cultist
>>744579793Normal people with one or two monitors aren’t “using them for work” for 18 hours a day—or even eight. And even if someone works eight hours a day, that still leaves roughly ten hours for gaming, movies, browsing, and other non-work use. So why the fuck would eight hours of office work be treated as the only use case that matters?If you need a display showing the same static content for 18 hours straight, buy an industrial monitor. Consumer monitors are general-purpose products, and for most people, entertainment and other non-work use outweigh office work by a mile.
>>744599603It's near black. I don't have banding. I went through all of the brightness slider and it's perfect
I will never buy an OLED unless they solve burn in (they never will)
>>744599641whatever? Nobody cares about your poorfag cope.
>>744599537I can see banding in your image, looks about the same as my panelThat pixelated grey look is grey uniformity issueBut yeah its not a big issue
>>744600085you can see banding from a photograph taken off a screen and then compressed to a .jpg
>>744599962if you want to worship nvidia you should do it in private where no one can point out just how much of a retarded cultist you are12vhpwr is indefensible, londonjeet
>>744600139yep>>744599537greyh shouldnt be pixelated like thatBottom left area has a clear band if you scroll around
>>744596376>>744597673So, nvidia should have used two of those 684w connectors or the safer 4x8 pin. Is there any reason they don't do this? Is it not feasible?
>>744600513You're seeing artifacts from the camera
>>744581517I know nothing about HDR, been meaning to do a deep dive to set it up right, even used the windows calibration tool but every time I turn on HDR it always looks worse, on every screen, I don't get it. How'd you calibrate yours?
>>744600759post a close up shot thenIts not artifacts, 99%
>>744600836>do this >do that>do thisnah I'm done. fuck off
>>744599797its not supposed to be that dark lmfaohttps://oledtest.org/screen-uniformity-test/Use this set it to 5% and unfuck your camera
>>744600683failure sells more cards and nvidia can blame their users because it technically fits the spec so they can decline warrantyoh and it looks better when you have less cables going around as if anyone gave a shit about thatNvidia is genuinely ideologically committed to that shit, they're not letting any of their AIBs fix this
>>744600820If you can't get HDR working try this if you're on Nvidia. Go to control panel and turn the image scaling to GPU rather than monitor. Also Disable RTX HDR, If you're on AMD, then ha ha , good luck