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Skyward Sword would have been stronger as a prequel/origin story if Link and Zelda weren't chosen ones and were instead just regular people whose descendants are chosen ones because of them.

Instead Zelda is the reincarnation of a goddess and Link is the reincarnation of her "chosen hero".
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>>744553495
Who the fuck would want to help Hylia out of free choice? She's a narcissistic cunt who wants to make everything about her.
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>>744553495
Skyward Sword should never have been made. We should’ve gone from TP to a semi-open world Zelda
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>>744553495
Skyward Sword would have been stronger as a prequel/origin story if it was actually the origin story. Regular or chosen be damned, it's insane its touted as the start when it's actually in the aftermath of events before.
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>>744553495
Zelda inherently worked better as a tale of mankind's capacity for good and evil. Ganon, even as a monster, is a man who will cross any and every line he can in the name of more. Zelda represents the people Ganon is willing to hurt just to stoke his ambition. And Link is humanity's capacity for goodness, an average youth who witnesses great injustice and acts to restore peace and justice, to save those that evil has put into danger.
Fujibayashi has permanently stained the series for the sake of his abysmal fanfiction and weakened the entire thing for MUH HYLIA MUH DEMISE THE MAIN THREE ARE ETERNALLY REINCARNATING AND FIGHTING FOREVER BUT THEY'LL NEVER MAKE ANY PROGRESS OVER ONE ANOTHER BECAUSE MUH CURSE MUH KARMA MUH NATURE OF THE UNIVERSE LE CYCLE
God I fucking hate Skyward Sword. Fujibayashi should've been beheaded for it and instead he was greenlighted into raping the series into mass appeal LCD slop. What a joke.
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The problem is that brainlets don't understand reincarnation.
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>>744556553
the problem is (trying to) retconning ganondorf into a reincarnation, retconning zelda into a goddess's reincarnation, and retconning link into a proto-hero's reincarnation
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>>744553495
Skyward Sword sucks shit out of Bob the Builder's hairy asshole.
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>>744553495
How do you know they werent?
Did you forget that humans were originally on earth? Zelda had a royal lineage of some type before hand because he father was basically the tribe elder in the skies.
Skyward sword isnt an origin story for zelda, but an origin story for the master sword. The "curse" isnt real either, its just a shit treehouse translation as always, originally demise only ever says that demons will never stop coming for the people of the goddess.
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>>744556238
So you got all your information from a low iq video critique, huh?
Nothing you just said was actually in the game. What you said is like critiquing catholicism by saying "you ruined the bible's lore by making it so the entire story is the struggle between the pope and satan", which is obviously retarded and inaccurate.
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>>744555132
>finally get to see the origins of the master sword
>it's just an upgraded version of a previously existing sword
fucking lame, why bother at that point? when you think about the origin of a sword, you think about seeing it, I don't know, the sword actually being forged?
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>>744557390
>"Skyward sword isnt an origin story for zelda, but an origin story for the master sword."
It does a terrible job at that too.
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>>744557560
>So you got all your information from a low iq video critique, huh?
No I thought of this last time I was playing Wind Waker.
Sounds like you're projecting.
>What you said is like critiquing catholicism by saying
Yeah you're definitely compensating for something.
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>>744557390
Ganondorf's "Demon King" form in TotK looking near identical to Demise makes this a moot point, and the devs themselves said they deliberately designed Demise to look like Ganondorf to signify a connection between the two.
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>>744553495
It's better if there's no pivotal canon generation that officially starts all this. like any time you got back further and further there's still more past establishing it.
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>>744557771
>i got my completely made the fuck up take on skyward sword by playing windwaker
lol?
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>>744557771
wind waker was the dev team wanting to make a Ghibli anime videogame with a mainline nintendo budget.
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>>744558725
>wind waker was the dev team wanting to make a Ghibli anime videogame
Wind Waker has a lot of proto-BOTW DNA in it, it makes sense.
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>>744556238
You know that Miyamoto just literally made shit up at random to fit the game he was trying to make, right? The narrative came second as an excuse to mold to the style of game he was trying to make? None of that shit you said is anywhere in the game.

Also, unironically, Demise was pretty sick and making a chain of fate actually makes the story better.
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>>744561096
A lot of the games are proto BOTW. The item durability and alchemy/cooking shit for example came from Skyward Sword.
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>>744558181
I was literally about to post something about that. He's bitching at Skyward Sword for something that started up with OoT and solidified in Wind Waker. Talk about a secondary.
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>>744553495
I hate how Hylia has taken over the lore and replaced the golden goddesses and triforce.
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>>744562396
They came back in EoW didn’t they?
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I’m in the latter third of my replay. I barely remember the dragons section. I think people hated them but it was pretty basic to finish this one. Didn’t bother me and was chill.
I’ve been doing all the sidequests and collectibles and even upgrades asap too. Only Gratitude Crystal I have left is Beedles. And only one goddess cube left to get too.
Used this checklist for all the stuff. It was nice to learn what the missable are like some big rupees.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wlk97nhec63wjtEg-7lgIWT5aw49rRM7o_kxxRIQuAc/
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>>744562662
>I’m in the latter third of my replay. I barely remember the dragons section. I think people hated them but it was pretty basic to finish this one. Didn’t bother me and was chill.
I remember watching a few streamers play this near release way back when. I don't remember if it was all of them, but I remember 2-3 of them stuck out to me because they would get to this part right here, then before they had played it for 5 minutes, before they had hit the water, before they even LEFT the leafpad, they were saying "Holy shit I fucking hate this!!!" Like, what? They just heard the word "underwater" and "collecting" and immediately turned their brains off.

I think Skyward Sword near release day really exposed how many people just simply fail and stubbornly refuse to adapt to their surroundings and want to just mash an attack button on enemies.
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>>744562934
When I was a kid, I actually played TMNT on NES and figured out the underwater bomb defusing stage all by myself.
What’s sad is I never really played past the part when you finally get the van. Stages were insane with enemy spam.
But yeah, I think my main critique of Skyward Sword is that the traveling back and forth between waymarks like the Isle of Songs and Skyloft just feels like silly padding.
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>>744562686
At this point, even if you got rid of Hylia, nothing would change. Even if you managed to get rid of Ganondorf for good, something else would come along to replace him. The only reason it doesn't happen is because Ganondorf kills or subjugates all other contenders.

Hyrule is just too juicy, too desirable. Fuck, even if you left Hyrule completely, there are STILL other great evils. Any land worth inhabiting us also desirable to every would-be villain ever.
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>>744563463
>The only reason it doesn't happen is because Ganondorf kills or subjugates all other contenders.
This actually got reversed in EoW.
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>>744553495
post blue girls
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>>744553495
>>744563632
Sex with Fi.
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>>744553495
I didn't mind the origin story in SS, but it needed a lot more development between the two before I can accept that they are destined to be the Princess and her Knight for all of eternity. Unironically BotW does a better job of showing character development of the two and how they grow closer together throughout their adventures.
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>>744562215
>Right-handed Link
>Crafting upgrades by collecting 9 quarts of Goblin semen
>Hylia
>New precursor magitech race
>Zelda has a story in the past while you are in the future
>Stamina system
>Durability
>Deferred reward Goddess cubes and Korok Seeds
>An obnoxiously bad handling of spoken word dialogue with SS forcing you to sit through text scrolling and BotW/TotK having fully voiced dialogue
They're both very similar.
>>744562934
The game's underwater controls are pretty annoying.
>>744563839
That's because the right-handed hero never reincarnates and is instead replaced by the left-handed hero to avoid triggering Demise' curse, so Hylia/Zelda is eternally cucked by a lookalike. BotW/TotK have more Zelink development, because they're just thirsty daydreams of a goddess denied dick for all eternity, which is also why they just rampantly mash different timelines together.
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>>744553495
Link isn't a reincarnation of Hylia's chosen hero, he IS her chosen hero. That manga in the hyrule historia isn't canon
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>>744553495
I like the furry dragon sex stuff that made the world
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>>744565674
>"You know, they say that the goddess gave the Sailcloth to her chosen hero long ago. Of course, the one you're holding isn't the same one."

Maybe not, but there being a hero before SS Link is canon, it's stated in the game itself.
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>>744563632
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>>744553495
Zelda's story was better when the characters recurred for different reasons.
Ganon/dorf is functionally immortal, forcing himself back to life repeatedly. Zelda is the royal family name, passed down to the daughter in line for the throne. Link is whatever hero rises to face evil, apparent coincidence belying the favor of fate itself.
Now they're all reincarnations of an original trio of individuals with roughly the same roles, all perfectly symmetrical and equal.
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>>744570450
The only time Ganon was ever brought back to life was in the Oracle games and as a mindless zombie and before you start, no. He wasn't brought back to life in ALBW, it literally just his corpse.



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