hey /v/ lets talk about musou games
I played Samurai Warriors 3 on my 3DS. It was ok.
>>744556482Dynasty Warriors Origins is the best by far in terms of gameplay which is unfortunate because it has the least gooner content.
>>744556482benevolence
>>744556482Can anyone provide him with a decent challenge?
damn, metal gear AND dynasty warriors this month, can't set aside time for both
I really like Sengoku Basara
>>744557081no wait i'm a retard, they're almost a month apart
>they locked 4xl's xtreme mode saddles behind supply captains on mission 50/55/ectWhat the fuck were they thinking? That shit's fuckin impossible because the kingdom defense missions have you fighting all of china at once, complete with a 1.2 billion archers. Not to mention everything hits like a truck at that point and healing costs like 30k
>>744556815i don't like origins simply for the kpop faggot mc. i need the big roster and different weapons/movesets. i like a lot of what origins does but there is so many stupid talking scenes too. i still prefer older dw's
>>744557753I loved the talking scenes and I loved the idea of Ziluan but: they should have given us the ability to customize and change his appearance, otherwise it's not a self insert (clearly their intention with the dialogue options and lack of voice).If they intented it to be a character and not a self insert, they should have given Ziluan a voice. Silent MC is the wrong choice for a game with so little dialogue that the MC can engage in.Kpopfag MC isn't the issue because at least half the fucking roster of all warriors games has been exactly that for... pretty much forever
>>744557753this has genuinely kept me from trying it out. I am optimistic that the next game will have a bigger roster but use systems added in Origins. I think the DW3 remake is going to be some marriage of new and old. pretty excited to try out DW3re
>>744557971pirate it, you'll have fun for 20-30hrs before the loss of chars and movesets sets in fully. and thats enough time to appreciate the other changes they made. its not bad, but i wouldn't buy it as a "dw" game
One Piece Pirate Warriors 4 is on sale. Should I buy it? I played the 3rd one a few years ago and enjoyed it but I heard 4 has some retarded levelling system.Also, I'm waiting for new Warriors: Abyss content, I hope they haven't abandoned the game, but it wouldn't surprise me since Koei/Tecmo are stupid nowadays.
>>744556482I haven't played a proper dynasty warriors since like 3 or 4 or something on the ps2. I had fun with senran kagura which is in a similar vein.I recently played hyrule warriors again (the first one) and it got me itching for a proper musou.
>>744558638try emulating sw2 empires if you want something different
>>744556964>Fights and wins against Lu Bu in their first encounterWhat were they THINKING? I miss how you have to do the special challenge/objective to unlock characters in old Orochi games. Though some of them are pretty annoying.
>>744556482Anyone play Warriors: Abyss? How's it? Kind of tempted to buy it since it's on sale.
the fuck do you mean Hyrule Warriors 3 came out last year
it's justthatsimple
real men only need Touken Ranbou Warriors.
I've only played Warriors Orochi 3 Ultimate and it was awesome, what else should I play?Also do the characters ever shut the fuck up? That really annoyed me
Are there no more heroes left on the battlefield?
I have not enjoyed musou games since PS2. I don't know why because I really really loved DW 2 and 3
>>744561374according to AI WO3U is the best of all time. I just put it on my wishlist. WO3U is allegedly the pinnacle of the design where the war actually matters.For modern games the war isn't even real and it's just a setpiece.
How were you supposed to know how to get 4's ultimate weapons?
I genuinely really liked this shit. Never played any of the follow up games but I did have all the DLCs for it. Fucking content for MONTHS
>>744556815I felt that way for a start but then got sick of the stagger mechanics really quick
>>744561374samurai warriors 4 fucks.hyrule warriors (the first one!) fucks.
I love Linkle
>>744557753It's painfully obvious Ziluan was meant to be a CaC. I don't know why they pussied out of it? Maybe they thought the MC side plot paralleled Rise of Ronin's too much?
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1913120/Tears_of_Metal/this shit count?
are the early DW worth replaying for a nostalgia wank if you played as a wee cumsprout?
>>744561861its considered a good game in general but is also tendies first big musou game
>>744558367How is Warriors:Abyss? I'm on the fence about buying it cause top down rogue-like (rogue-lite? I dunno the difference)
>>744561861I love this game aside from the bosses. Did they fix them in the switch version?
>>7445583674 is alright but i vastly preferred 3 to itleveling is about equally obnoxious but a lot of the various gameplay changes, and just various gamefeel/fan service stuff is worseits simply way less satisfying to fight shit in 4 despite the scale being larger
>>744561171Nobunaga is truly based>Unified Japan (or was about to, died at 99% and had his proteges follow up)>Goth S+M waifu>Hot twink / trap bodyguard>Has a lightsaber for some reasonAnd even his Nioh version is giga based>Only person who wins against William in a fight>Doesn't kill him because he recognises it's a ploy from the disgusting homonculus, and also because he acknowledges William as a fellow giga chad>Has the most based guardian spirit, a multi-element peacock with super useful abilities
>>744561861My biggest gripe is the boss battles. They're just shit after the first time you fight them due to their long invulnerable periods in fights. That's the one thing the sequel did right
>>744556482I would like another strike force game even though I know it will never happen
Age of Calamity>>>>>>>>Age of Imprisonment
>>744561982What ones did you play? 3 is getting a remake in a couple of months
>>744556482the upcoming Disgaea mousou looks like dogshit sadly. I was kind of interested in playing it because I don't really musou too much unless it's themed by a property I enjoy like Pirate Warriors 3 and 4. What's the best normal ass DW game, been a minute since I've given any of them a shot honestly maybe I'll enjoy em more now that I've played PW3 and 4.
>>744562026nta but i loved the first 2 warrior abyss'. very mishmash of dw and sw (before they made a billion other games too)
For me, it's Wang Yuanji.
Just got this. What am i in for?
>>744562032No sadly>>744562184You're confusing Abyss for the Orochi series
>>744561793I did not care for it whatsoever. Hyrule Warriors Definitive Edition is the pinnacle, no contest.
>>744562237oops you're right. i'll kill myself
>>744562237rip>>744562136if I loved HW but hate BotW is either one worth playing, free or otherwise
>>744561978I been playing it. Put 20-30 hours in so far. They just reduced the difficulty significantly, enemies used to be huge fucking sponges in Act 2.Pretty fun, but it needs it's other 2 characters added.
>>744562172not entirely sure if I say shit like the one with the elephant level maybe they all had an elephant level, empires was probably the last one I got maybe
why does the west refuse to make that type of games?it's a fun and simple type of game to make, easy money
>>744562281It's allgood man. I thought the same thing when I first saw it. I think they're slightly connected
>>744562318botw sucks ass. hyrule warriors is pretty good
>>744562273>did not care for WO3U>loved hyrule warriorsexplain yourself. hyrule warriors is fantastic but it's not so different from WO3U.
>>744557753>i need the big roster and different weapons/movesetsThisCall it ADD or whatever, but I NEED to be able to rotate between a few guys at any given time, and figure out movesets. And goofy weapons with unorthodox playstyles are my jam.
what's the best japan musou?
>>744562386Yea 3, 4 and 5 had elephants. Though only 4 and 5 had empires versions. So we're getting somehere
>>744562395Because western devs are fucking retards who hate fun. They want realistic graphics and le epik stories.
>>744562395What western IP would work? 40k I guess? We already have 1 vs many 40k games though
>>744561861This, and Sengoku Basara were my favorite Warriors games.
>>744562505Sengoku Basara 4.Or Sam War 4, I guess.
>>744562469He's a tendie. Only Tendies put HW at the top of the list. It is great, but not top contender
>>7445625085 empires might be my fav overall dw game. but if you like the EMPIRES aspect, sw2 got it better and might be the best overall empires experience
>>744562318Age of Calamity's biggest strength is being very faithful to BotW in terms of characters and fighting, you have the flurry rush and you use the shiekah slate runes to break armor gauges, it takes a lackluster story and makes it engaging. It's basically BotW fan service so if you hated BotW then I don't know if you will get much out of Age of Calamity. Definitely don't bother with Age of Imprisonment, it's Age of Calamity but heavily watered down, to the point that it reuses cutscenes from TotK and has a roster that is 80% literal who filler.
>>744562634depressing. Will probably just pick up the switch version of HW1 then
>Capcom are probably in their "too cool" phase to ever re-release Sengoku Basara and localize itPain...
>>744562075there's a sweet spot distance you can stand at that pretty much queues up their vulnerable attack.or just use your magic boost musou
>>744562075This paired with being required to finish under 15 minutes is why i have no qualms with using a "freeze timer" cheat for adventure mode.
>>744562789I did that a few months back and it was an amazing choice. wish I had a little bit more autism to enjoy the maps.
>>744562615Man I bought SW4 Empires after loving SW2 empires and it was dogshit. Was so disappointed
>>744562914empires in general has been shit for a while now. i really think sw2e was the last time it was solid, but theres so many games maybe i missed some. its what i want most out of any new musou game - good new empires mode
>>744562549You could pick just about any popular franchise and make an easy musou spin offBut instead of being able to pick between a warhammer musou, a dragon ball musou, a cyberpunk, some capeshit, or anything else you can think of its just picking between 15 3 chinkdoms titles
>>744562223Unfiltered kinoWe fight for Hotspur!
>>744562469In general the game is outrageously slow compared to modern musou games. The horse you start out with is the same speed as your insanely slow light jog. You have to accept side missions before the battle every single time even though there's no reason not to accept them, so it just doesn't make sense why it doesn't auto apply it to the battle already. No lock on. Switching between characters is significantly worse since you literally change right then and there instead of being able to switch to another character that you could have sent elsewhere on the map to take care of other shit. Unlocking missions and characters is needlessly convoluted and at times just doesn't work properly. It's unclear what you need to do when you've already spoken to everyone and did every mission available already. Apparently the characters were just ported from their last mainline entry, making the DW characters significantly better than the SW characters. I've seen that you have to do build relationships to unlock stages as well which is retarded. A character cann only hold like 8 weapons at a time before you have to sell or fuse them at an extremely slow rate.This is from like 7 hours of play. I've enjoyed DW2 and SW1XL more than I enjoyed WO3U. I'm sure I'll enjoy it just fine once I decide to go through it someday, but there are a lot of core things here that HW just does significantly better
>>744556482DW 3 was one of the first games I ever rented from Blockbuster/Hollywood video and thought "holy fuck, I might not return this" (you could just buy the copy from the store for cheaper than new)then I rented 4 and 4 Empires and my brain just about explodedit was crazy to 8 year old me how every new title they would put new generals, movesets, character designs, gameplay mechanics and alt history campaigns in every single gamealso Shu for life. Liu Bei my Emperor, true Han revival, Cao Cao a fuck
>>744562903I desperately wish we'd get a switch 2 upgrade. That game needs a resolution bump. If they want to charge for it, then throw a couple of adventure maps and at least 2 new characters and call it a day.
>>744562026If it's your first musou it's technically not a musou game in the traditional sense at least. But I've played musou games ever since DW2 and I'd say Abyss is the game I've put most hours into simply because of the addictive roguelite elements. It's one of my most played games of all time. So I strongly recommend it purely by bias, but objectively it's a game where it is appealing or unappealing depending on your preferences
eagg is ded again
>>744562848>wanting nu-crapcum to release anything belovedIt's bad enough they raped Monster Hunter and Street Fighter
>>744563356How well does it emulate?
Red pill me on "empires." Is it just 4k autism?
>>744563741https://youtu.be/Svq8lvEgZC8
>>744563808>4kno. but its more of a reward to take over a map and do upgrades along the way, especially on harder modes. i cant sell you on it, try it and see if you like it or not
>>744556815I can only hope they continue on with the formula but ditch the OCdonutsteel or at least allow for character customisation to create your own self-insert/wife. The fujobaiting was at least funny with how forced it was. My biggest issue other than the lack of characters and weapons was how some weapons just felt bad to play. Spear was super one note and Staffs damage was too low for me to ever use it willingly. Serpent Spear my beloved.
>>744563741i played some older version of aoc and it was fine, it must be near perfect these days
>>744562210you're telling me this is a 100% chinese woman?
>>744563074You sound like a mad westerncuck and now I'm glad there isn't anything for you
>>744556482No
>>744562395The west did try it once. It was called Troy Musou.It did not do well.
>>744560647For a literal asset flip: the game, WA is shockingly enjoyable to me, so I'm definitely in the favor of you buying it. Too bad supports for the game seem to have ended before they get to insert more non-Musou characters into the game.
>tfw you spend a few months trying to make custom designs for all of the generic officers in DW8:E and then find out if you make a custom replacement for He Jin then the yellow turban event will never fire
>>744567953Surprised I've never heard of this before and from the footage I can find I can see why it didn't do well. A true western musou for the brown'n'bloom era that looks more clunky to play than the early DW games.
Looking forward to 3 Remastered, unless if KT somehow manages to fuck it up.
I've played 4 the most, followed by hyrule warriors. Played a little of 5xl and 8xl, but i feel like there's not as much to those two. Am I missing something?
>>744556482which one is the best for online coop with friend?
he is literally mehttps://youtu.be/gzdI6PQmRrA
I love Warriors Orochi 3 bros. Feels like this kind of game is impossible today. The amount of content, the fucking roster size and collabs, the character interactions with full voice acting.
>>744556482Waiting for 3XL:R to play musou. The gameplay demos look goodI have the PS2 and the emu set up otherwise, and fittingly enough 3XL was my most played.
>>744556482What is there to talk about? Smoke some pot, spam the attack button and watch Sima Yi's hot wife's boobies jiggle around when she kills armies of peasants with piano wire.
>>7445693388 XL is basically "Tekken Tag Tournament" with biggest roster and most content compared to the rest. Also the girls have some of the hottest outfits in the series.
>>744573435(me)Just noticed they also added a musou bar below the enemy officer HP bars, other than a glowing signal for when they are using it anyways.Will miss the Gan Ning jumpscares.
>DQ4>ma chao with L11 weapon>shadow runner>the enemy officer when
Remember when fun was allowed?
>>744556482Empires
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoN30-1rjgMMight be the best track in the series.
>>744575720DW's got so many bangers, it's definitely all taste.That one's not bad, but for "best", I'd go with something like Teary Edge, SOLO, or The Last Battle.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSAr_Ztu2o4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kp_YdUQ17v8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-3O7yoHyP4
>>744575464Koei kneels to blackrock now
>>744575720For me it's whenever the stage bgm switches to thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=323feK4tAhA
Dadudu
>>744560239Maybe he didn't want to look like too much of a bully and beat up a girl who apologizes a lot.
>>744562223I was filtered:(
>>744556815Did they ever add other characters?
>>744563260>Cao Cao a fuck>not Cao Cao a duckAnon, YOU HAD ONE GOD DAMN JOB
>>744573679Lianshi looked better in 7.
>>744576441How would ROTK go if Cao Cao received that letter
>>744576634Kinda the least of the issues that version introduces desu.
>>744575981>Teary EdgeHow do you like Endless Sorrowhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cEYB8d7Yvw
Big KT sale on PSNI own:>DW8XL>SW4, 4-2, 4 Empires>SW Sanada>SW5>DW Origins>Pirate Warriors 3, 4>Arslan>Berserk >AbyssLooking into buying:>Orochi 3/4 >All Stars>DW9Thoughts?
Are there any mods for the modern games to make them more like the ps2 titles?
>>744576691Nothing against the song, but I'm just not into DW music with lyrical vocals. Too image-albumy.I didn't like the ones like Cross-Colors either.
>>744576782orochi 3 is a top 3 musou ever and orochi 4 is crazy underrated
>>744576782I'm still mad SW4E was never ported, but 4-II was for whatever reason, before actual SW4 even.Thank god 3XLR is multiplat.
>>7445767823U is worth it. Wouldn't buy vanilla at this point. 4 is actually more fun than it looks, but the magic system is kinda dumb, and if you do chevos, Weapon Master will make you absolutely despise the game and everyone involved with it to the point of wanting to kyo-ani their headquarters.Pass on all-stars. Only get DW9 if it's really cheap, and you want the DLC to play Dong Bai's brat side-story.
>>744556482How is Origins with a year's remove?
I hate how ever since this franchise left the PS2 it's been a schizophrenic mishmash of mostly twinks and gooner/waifu shit, with some actual warriors thrown in. Before it used to be warriors for the most part with only a bit of lame shit thrown in. Now the ratio is reversed. The character designs have been complete trash too for a really long itme.Make musou cool again.
>>744576782I'm planning to buy All Stars because of Marie Rose and William.
>>744576984it's easily the best gateway into musou, but also clearly an in-between game. dw3 remake is also kinda that as omega updates the roster for eventual dw10.
>>744576782I can't even explain why All Stars was bad except it feels wrong. I wouldn't recommend it. Orochi 3 is maybe the best Musou. 4 is pretty good. Didn't play 9, though I'm interested still if only to see what the heck they did.
>>744577000samurai warriors is far worse for it, at least dw is relatively grounded in comparison to shit like motochika chosokabe
>>744576782I wish they were doing more licensed games, but Attack on Titan 3 is happening so I can't complain much.
>>744561171https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glvnZaC8-tsGets me hard eveytime.
>>744577000>Make musou cool again.what musou needs is real competition again. sengoku basara is sadly dead, though.
>>744577135>no english release>does have an english patch>its only the menus>the translator has been "working on" the story translation for like 3 years now with no update
>>744576782>>ArslanStill find it funny how army battles from a cheap spin-off came back to be such a big part of Origins.
>>744562054Yeah, I tried PW4 and could not vibe at all. The aerials felt rough. The story starting midway through did not help, and maybe I'm crazy but the levels felt uglier too.I honestly was thinking about replaying 3 the other day, so this is a good reminder.
>>744573304a cultured man, one of the most addicting musou games ever
>>744577000Good news for you then, we are going back to 3.Also>all those new girls>none of them as iconic as the Qiao sisters in 3 anyways
Played OG DW3 for the first time to take notes for the remake. Why the FUCK is SHU Yi Ling stage so hard? had little issue until i ran into Gan Ning who kept one shooting me with his mousu.
>>744561978>>744562382Interesting. Is it more like Musou or Bladestorm?
>>744561861As a Wii-u owner, i regret never garbing a copy.
>>744561941They've already talked about it. They did consider using a character creator, but the producer decided he wanted Ziluan instead and that was that. In good news, he has also said he is open to them using a character creator instead of ziluan in the sequels.
>>744576869>hating on Cross ColorsThis is the sort of thing that breaks alliances, my liege.
>>744577439desu I just want to play as my favorites, I don't want OC snowflakes in the game at all
>>744577523Alliances, schmalliances. All falls in the face of Red Hare.
>>744576984Shame the DLC turned out to be criminally overpriced for what it is. Since they stopped releasing XLs additional content has just not been good for Musou games.
>>744576984I disliked it a lot. Whilst at first glance it seemed pretty good, the fundamental game design flaws start showing after a few hours of play. It overstayed its welcome way too much with its awful pacing. Boring maps and lots of re-used assets. Allies that constantly need baby sitting forcing you to constantly hold their hand. Parrying and stance breaking being the main way to deal damage and enemies being way to tanky outside of it made the overall experience absolutely mind numbing.
>>744561861still THE most content stacked musou game yet. shame both sequels were disappointing.
>>744576984I thought it fucking dragged on forever and tapped out when i was still fighting fucking yellow turbans in chapter 3. I heard the game ends early historically too. It's like they choose to make mostly filler.
>>744577852because it was decided both sequels would be tie-ins to two new zelda games rather than their own thing.
>>744562848>>744577135DON'T MAKE ME CHOOSE
>>744577202I didn't have a problem with how 4 played, but fuck I hated the story, yeah. I get why they focused on the newer stuff, but they were making a huge game anyway, they should've just gone the distance. Skipping Impel Down and Thriller Bark felt almost criminal.I did appreciate that tall characters, abnormally large characters, and giant characters, were all appropriately sized in 4 finally though.
>>744578395Basara betrayed its CURAYZE comedy root for yume pandering
>>744558367PW has by far the most varied character cast. If anything it's shocking they never made Empires for it. Custom crew in crazy One Piece world seems like a winning formula. Fact they kept releasing DLC for so long tells me they want to make another game.
>>744578749Well, don't forget Koei also decided to re-release DOA6 after all this time, and try to cash in again there too.They'll probably make another PW, yeah, but I think all it means in this case, was that they were trying to do some cashgrabs.
>>744562223Im not even done with game yet but invest your levels into horses first, trust me
>>744556482i really enjoy the stuff that's important in DW Empires, i couldn't care less about musou games outside of that though. It make me wonder about narrative shifting moments of 'X character has done Y activity at Z location' over a campaign mode in other genres.
Has anyone tested Basara 4 Sumeragi on shadps4? I tried it like a year ago and while playable, there were constant shader stutters. I think shadps4 didn't have shader compilation at that point so it didn't save them to the harddrive.
>Incredible! I am truly impressed by your skill!
>>744578395This needs an update with SW5 designs
>>744583371pretty sure like 2/3 of those are not in SW5
>>744583371could we not? make new designs for sw6.
Abyssbros... Our game isn't dead yet
>>744577202>lose triangle combos and unique actions (to put them as supers thus limiting the ones you can choose) to make aerial combos>half the cast don't have air comboswho's fucking bright idea
>>744577202SO UP HIGH
>>744584215You got to let it go, anon...
>>744584215It's not a Musou title, though.
>>744556482I would sacrifice anyone on this board for DW Gundam to come back.
>>744585650Problem is absolutely nothing new Gundam is actually worth enough to make me want to see it adapted.
>>744584215We had some fun times... the little asset flip that made it over a year against the odds
>>744556482I like(d) these games, but Koei Tecmo has now taken ESG pledge. So women get toned down using boilerplate corporate phrases:>"Dynasty Warriors Origins focused on balanced sex-appeal that doesn’t compromise female characters’ roles and backgrounds, says series producer"male gaze was a big part of the appeal of these games for me. Not really interested if they're intentionally making the women more modest. Which is why I don't care about their next musou games since they'll suffer the same fate.Also never forget Dynasty Warriors Origins gay flirting in-gamehttps://archive.ph/Lrs3G
>>744586948It's so weird how they made the perfect female protagonist choice but never made her playable. The gay stuff would have worked better that way since everyone lusts for the player. Even married women characters have implied sex with Ziluan.
>>744556721No you didn't
>>744562505Basara 4 Sumeragi, no contestBest musou full stop
>>744562549Lots would work, especially something like X-Men But do NOT wish for a western studio to make a historical musou unless you want more blackwashing, womenwashing, and ugly woke revisionism for your heroes
>>744562505If you just want jap warriors in the game it's WO3U and WO4U. 3U if you want content until your eyes bleed of repetition, 4U if you want better gameplay and more modern mechanics.If you actually want Japan as a setting then probably SW2+XL is the best.
>>744561978>early accesswell shit
>>744577289>Why the FUCK is SHU Yi Ling stage so hard?Because its supposed to be.Chi Bi, Yi Ling, He Fei Castle and Wu Zhang Plains are supposed to put your balls in a vice
>>744585791Good thing they still have 45 years worth of good stuff to pull fromWe still never got more than 2 G-Gundam units, THE melee gundams completely ignored for 4 fucking musou games
>>744588875>DW3 He Fei CastleThat stage and DW4's Nanman still hunt me in my dreams.
>>744578395some of the SB designs are so hateful towards the historical figure lmao like sorin otomo and goro matabe
>>744589384Matabe's dinosaur gimmick is awesome though
>game has kino musichttps://youtu.be/tZRxuYfl3Wc?si=0QhEH3llZuD8JgBR
>still no FF Musou, despite having 2 DQ >still no Jojo Musou>still no Super Sentai musou
>>744577289>>744588875(shu) Yi Ling isn't that bad as long as you stop the fire attack from happening. Beat Lu Meng, then instantly run over to the mid west valley and defeat the Wu officer before he reaches the shu camp. This stops the fire attack. Then head to the east side of the map for, Gan Ning, as he's the only real threat to your allies if the fire attack fails.On a related note, this battle should feel quite grand in the Remaster. It's kinda like one long frontline, and with the increased draw distance and troop count (based on the demo footage, it seems the 5 man peon groups have been replaced with 20 man groups) it should look great.
>>744589587no dbz or naruto musou seems crazy to me as well considering the one piece ones
>>744589384Koei did it first with their Zhang He and Yoshimoto.
>>744577289Yiling(Shu side) is certainly a stage.
>>744589642I understand no DBZ musou since there's not a lot of variety between characters' fighting styles. It all usually boils down to throwing punches and kicks and ki blast volleys for everyone (when theres not some episode-long meme attack charging up)
>>744556482 In Dynasty Warriors Origins with Wei The other day I got to the point of the battle of Chibi I think it's the second last battle of the campaign I did not save the officers with those difficult missing things beforehand but I think if I do another playful at the level I'm at now with the weapons I have I can do it what happens when you complete a campaign?
>warriors abyss will probably never get updated again>still missing a bunch of my favorite SW/DW/WO characters like musashi miyamoto, benkei, ding feng, li dianfeels bad man
>>744589684Gan Ning was a fucking menace
>>744562058But he just had to have an African slave so now the modern world can pretend there were totally black Samurai.
nobunagas sexy evil wife is one of my favorite characters to use in SW/WO/WA
>>744589595Depending on your stats/equipment and difficulty setting, Gan Ning can kill your allies even if you literally spawncamp Zhu Ran and kill him in seconds. Don't have high defense, and wear marching drums, pray for morale increases from killing some officers on the left side or the center(I'd leave Lu Meng last though)
>>744590154She was so fucking good in basara, basically girl dante
>>744589995 At most some historians were say it's debatable or depends on your exact definition of Samurai if yasuke was a samurai but they also like to ignore a lot of points that people who say he can't be one They try to say get black people were not allowed to be samurai in the same glass they say but it was okay for white people when Japan didn't even know about black people to begin with for the most part obunaga fought the guy was wearing makeup or something with his skin tone when he was 6 ft tall to if obunaga wanting to make anyone at Samurai he was in the position to make anyone he wanted a samurai and 3 yasuke was at 6 ft tall Warrior Before he got to Japan that sounds like someone you would want on your side.
>>744590392No Shaquan, you wuz not samarais n sheet.
>>744578395I still find it funny that Ranmaru and Nōhime became household names because they both suck Nobunaga's dick when they literally did nothing else, while some officers with actual notable feats are forever generic because they don't fuck with Nobunaga.
>>744562058always found it interesting sengoku basara portrayed him as a straight up villain
>>744589587>FF MusouThis is so fucking obvious, how has SE not turned on this money printer yet
>>744590520There's a TON of characters who could be turned into fully realized characters. More so with Dynatsy Warriors.
>>744590762they took the cheaper dissidia route. hell, fucking fire emblem and dragon quest have musou games.
>>744590775>it took until dw9 for us to get cheng pu and yuan shu
>>744590849I dont see how thats cheaper
>>744590680You got it the other way around. Koei is the only one who portrayed Nobunaga as a straight up hero. Everyone else and their mothers usually have him be a villain, or at best, an anti-hero.
>>744590483I'm not black in Japanese video games have called him a samurai.
>>744578395I do feel like the later Basara games leaned less towards crazy and wild designs in favor of making more "pretty boy" characters. Looking at Mitsunari Ishida, Shima Sakon, their playable version of Ieyasu Tokugawa and...good god.....Katsuie Shibata.
>>744590909I watched some anime back in the day where Nobunaga made a deal with evil space aliens to take over japan with laser blasting robot samuraiJapan really hates this guy, he's like nip hitler
>>744590901Dissidia is a glorified arena fighter.
>>744578395>mfw POWER OF BONDShttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9qUm1-32ms
>>744589834You could still come up with some differences even with just martial arts and ki blasts, enough to justify how well it would sell with the easy fanservice of playing goku stomping the red ribbon army
>>744591024But it had custom arcade cabinets and an expensive online infrastructure for themTheres no way in hell that was cheaper than a musou
i don't mind yasuke existing because in theory it should be fertile ground for a cool musou design
>>744590849>dat feel when DQH2 never EVER goes on discount
>>744591202Same, holy shit. Both Koei games and SE games go on sale all the time so I have no idea why this one wont
>>744591202>>744591416I swear both games probably got removed from the list of existing games and no one noticed. It's like they're specifically being passed over for any and all sales.
>>744591610>>744591416
>>744563260You should read the actual novels.Luis Bei is such a bitch, oh my god. He just keeps running around telling people they have to give him shit because he's the Imperial Uncle, losing battle after battle but then squatting in cities before Wu can make progress, incidentally aiding Wei by being a pain in the ass.Finally he retreats to the Riverlands and dies there.
>>744591871>>744591416>>744591202For me, it's the Arslan game. It's the only Musou game left that I haven't played yet, not counting the Japanese-only ones.
ranmaru is a girl, right?
are warriors orochi 1 & 2 emulatable on xenia?>inb4 hur dur emulate them on ps2no
>>744577289In the stories Yi Ling was a disaster for Lui Bei. He camped out in the dry forest in the middle of summer and mismanaged the whole campaign because he was an uneducated rug maker who normally needed Kongming to make all his grown-up decisions for him. In that battle, Lui Bei was out for a personal vendetta so he personally did everything wrong.
>>744577289On the other hand, it's extremely satisfying when it goes well.Am on a run with all allies alive, Jiang Wei musou mode, hard difficulty. He isn't even maxed out, I just did a similar route to the Xiaoqiao one
>>744592196WO1 was released natively for PC as well.
>>744591965It's one of the more forgettable licensed games.
>>744556482Origin sucks
>>744585791did she shake hands with an indian?
>>744585791>>744589117To be fair story mode from DW Gundam games was fucking horrendous. Good luck getting anything out of it unless you're already familiar with the stories.
>>744592209That's not true at all. In fact, many of the feats attributed the ZL were Liu Bei's idea.Yi Ling was botched, but Liu was a capable strategist.
>>744593116Would have been better if they used Amano's art instead of that moon-faced FMA style
Musou games died when the mooks lost their teeth.Give me the DW2/DW3 mooks where in the late stages of a story campaign the HQ bodyguards were as good as officers, and a volley of crossbowmen could delete your health bar.
>>744594221Believe it or not, but they are coming back. Check out gameplay from DW3XL:R
>>744591023They don't hate him, but he is famous for being an ambitious schizo, so that's how he's portrayed.
>>744593875This is the campaign started to avenge Guan Yu where Lui Bei had an early advantage that he squandered, and then he fucked up so bad that Zhuge Liang asked to have the commander executed until he learned it was Lui Bei behind it all, right?Lui Bei was a man of limited merits who coasted on his surname.
>>744594647Yea it's the one where Liu Bei spergs out because Wu kills Guan Yu, and attacks them in a rage.Then he fucks up big time
>>744585650>>744585791My favorite was Master Asia,In 3 they recast a bunch of characters. I switched it to Japanese
>>744594647Both are true. He coasted on his name to make political moves and gain favors, but he was also a good commander on the field. Everyone fucks up eventually, you'll find all the other famous rulers made critical errors that nearly cost them everything as well. Let's not forget that chaining the boats together at Chi Bi (and launching a naval attack on a naval country in the first place) was Cao Cao's idea.
>>744594842>chaining the boats together at Chi BiThat sounds fucking cool on paper though, so I don't blame him.
>>744594842I can't think of hardly anything Lui Bei did that really established him as a great commander, though. He was granted control of a city until Lu Bu took it from him, and Cao Cao ultimately determined everything important to that event. Then he copied up to Yuan Shao because he thought that was his meal ticket, only to discover Yuan Shao was a hack bigger than Lui Bei was. After that he Moorhead off ot Lui Biao until Lui Biao died and Lui Bei insinuated control of the region only to instantly fucking lose it to Wei. Around this time he finally meets Zhuge Liang and starts to turn things around somewhat, but mostly by leeching from Shu. He eventually betrays Shu by occupying their lands without using his own forces to fight Wei - instead letting Zhou Yun exhaust himself by doing that hard work. Finally, he runs off to the Riverland and usurped the area under pretense of being named Lui.He bumbled all around China and every great campaign always had Zhuge Liang behind it.
>>744577101>I wish they were doing more licensed games,here's one from the left field - I wish they did kingdom.
>>744595202Sorry, I mean he let Zhao Yu do the work. Zhao Yun is Zilong. The romance probably calls everyone by their various self-styled names because it's less confusing that way.That's why Zhao Yu is depicted as dying from fucking anger at Zhuge Liang in the games and the shows sometimes, because he didn't actually die from anger right away but he certainly died justifiably goddamn angry about it.
>>744595442>Zhao Yu>Zhou YunIt's like I'm really back at KW...
>>744589684>>744577289>>744589595>yi ling >from wu side>its all hard as shit >have to do back flips to get the fire attack and gan ning to show upWtf
I miss 7 Empires...
>>744595521Look, if the games used everyone's self-styled names we wouldn't have this problem, but if I start talking about the time Lui Bei punted his own baby after Zilong risked his life to save it, a bunch of people don't know who Zilong is.
>>744593547Me and my friend have never watched a single episode but we both beat the game as almost every character. I couldnt tell you a single plot point. I know full frontal is a fucking ridiculous name.
I SHALL RETURN REMMEBER THAT FOR YOURS IS THE FIRST HEAD I SHALL SEEK
>>744595671The Japanese who named it probably thought "full frontal assault" rather than the slightly more common "full frontal nudity".
>3R has everything I want in a musou>except my wife
>>744556482BASTARD OF THREE FATHERS!
>>744556721I played it by renting it one weekend with my cousin back when it came out and it was amazing. Did the same with Samurai Warriors and it was also couch co-op kino.
>>744595854I'm actually shocked they'll have the full characters roster. Remember, two were secret and there were XL additions. So likely DLC material.
warriors orochi 4>200 character roster>completely reworked movesets with the new magic system>tons of stages>fun but retarded powerup forms why do we hate thi sgame again?
All I want is a musou game of Ravages of Time
>>744596052I'm more interested in why Fu Xi and Nu Wa never returned after DW3.
>>744596214they did but reworked in the wo games
musou always seems to cover civil warswhere is my romvn civil war series?i wanna be pompey and push around fucking seleucid shits with a marble pillar while riding an elephant
>>744596214because they're not actual characters, they're supposed to be deities.
>>744596121It blows 3U out of the water in terms of gameplay, but 3U has endless amounts of meaningless numbers to grind and some people want that instead
>>744596395Because they tried western history once, gave the project to Koei Canada to develop and just wrote it off afterwards.
>>744596723Still better than Nolanslop
>>744596439So is Guan Yu. I get what you mean but Chinese deities are funny. They're more like mythical spirits. The Romance has Guan Yu return once or twice to influence events as a spooky ghost.
>>744596395>roman musou>have 5 praetorian bodyguards>they kill you and proclaim themselves emperor
>>744596796I haven't seen the movie but from what I hear, it's not really "slop". It's not faithful to the Odyssey, but let's be fucking real, a Musou game isn't faithful to its inspirations either.
>>744561861>>744577852Is there any way to skip through the Story mode?I finished it on Wii U and N3DS and I can't do it again
For me? It's VS. mode with Pang Tong where you let the other player kick your ass to fill up your musou meter so you can 1 shot them with Pangs special magic spell musou attack
>>744596214they're pretty cool in orochi
Where is pirate warriors 5Fuck you bamco
A Water Margin musou could be cool.
are the fire emblem or pirate warriors games any good if i never followed either franchise?
>>744605173they say certain pirate warriors games were good, can't remember if it was 3 or 4. fire emblem warriors is iffy; three hopes is pretty fine but has an unfinished story since it cuts off well before a proper conclusion, while the vanilla FEW was absolutely an adequate, milquetoast game filled with boring, safe roster picks that mostly advertised awakening and fates. you can't really go "wrong", but you could do better.
for me it's oyakodon
>>744605343i think i recall someone saying pw 3 was good. i'll look it up. havent played a musou since origins and something with a new roster i'm not familiar with seems fun
>>7446051733 is great if you've never read any of it, its about as best you could condense the manga up to marineford
>>744578395I actually did choose my preferences ages ago funnily enough, it's pretty even overall but the SB pretty boys bug me a lot more than the SW ones.
Just beat WO3U's story mode an hour ago (still have Gauntlet mode and all the DLCs stages left to go), but I wanna play a new musou game.I already have purchased and finished both DW8XL and DW7XL, which is why they are not on the list.
>>744607258WO4, 4DX, or abyss if you like roguelikes. Spirit of sanada only if you play 4DX first. 4-ii is bad. origins is excellent but you should play the others first
>>744593374are you color blind or something? that's her period blood, it's some sort of lesbian bonding ritual.
>>744607258its crazy how many versions of these games there is now. i started with my friend bringing over dw2
What fuckin moron designed this?
>>744605663I didn't really care for Pirate Warriors compared to Dynasty Warriors and Samurai Warriors. YMMV.
>>744608019HW1 is the most overrated musou game ever, horrible camera, ridiculous filler, 50% of the cast is unusable, you need a walkthrough on hand at all times to do quest mode properly, bosses are insane damage sponges, all the stages are flat rooms connected by hallways because its a 3ds port.age of calamity MOGS.age of imprisonment is better to play than HW1 but i think its the gayest one and i didn't enjoy the characters. age of calamity mogs AOI too
>>744602635After Elbaph arc is over, 7-10 more years!
>>744596121>>744596526The problem with WO4U compared to WO3U is that is disappointing in a couple of ways.Not all the collab characters from the previous game are there, no All Star characters, no Spirit of Sanada characters, very few costumes, menu design looks like a mobile app instead of the comfy camp in WO3, less content...Gameplay in WO4U is superior though, I don't think anyone will deny it. No clones from DW7XL, SW4's characters blow their SW3 counterparts out of the water (you really don't need a horse at all with them), magic makes certain movesets way more viable, even with the missing collabs it still has the biggest roster in a warriors game to date...On the battlefield, WO4 is superior to WO3 because almost everyone is more fun to play with. But overall, WO3U is the better game.
>>744596214They were just bonus characters who weren't even in 3K.
>>744577852Extremely overrated
>>744578395Capcom will never be so based again.
>>744608921What this guy said
>>744608265I never played AoC because I don't really care about botw or its characters, what am I missing?
>>744612281>big roster where everyone has an incredibly unique gameplay gimmick that makes them extremely fun to play>legitimately tense boss fights and general high difficulty if you set it to high>huge map full of side stages, unlocks, upgradesbasically it just feels really really amazing to play, it feels halfway to a character action game
INSUFFERABLE ROGUES
>>744556482>no debooting of Samurai Warriors ever>Dynasty Warriors is stuck with gay DW9 gameplay and even gayer Origins presentation>no more Gundam games, the only good licensed MusousDead series to me.
>>744612813>DW9 gameplaythey are never going back to dw9 gameplay lol
>>744557957>otherwise it's not a self insert (clearly their intention with the dialogue options and lack of voice)He's not a self-insert for the player, he's a cipher for the fujos. He doesn't talk because they can then project whatever gay shipping bullshit onto him that they want, not for the benefit of the non-fujo players who want to self-insert as a chink slaying machine.
>>744561765i play almost all of them yet keep going back to the PS2 games
>>744612909zhuhe was supposed to be playable as well 100% for the fellas
>>7446128899 isnt even the worst of the mainline dw games
>>744613039yeah its probably better than 1, 2 and 6. i think its probably better than 7 too just for being novel and weird
>>744613103i liked it for what they tried but it was definitely rushed. they should have saved the open world (after giving it another year of work, minimum) for empires. it sucks that it failed so horribly i doubt they'll ever attempt it again
I can't fix her because there's nothing to fix
>>744613578Hottest woman in the franchise IMO. Everytime she appears on screen I get a boner, that suit is insanely sexy.
I've been playing Dynasty Warriors Gundam Reborn lately and just finished beating the last Ultimate stage. It took me near the end of my playthrough to remember how broken Master Gundam was. God, I wish Koei could make another mecha musou.
>koei tecmo recently doubled their workforce>they released a statement that they are focusing on mid budget AA games recentlywe're gonna get so many musou lmao
>>744560647it's basically top down musou and you still have the same attack strings and stuff. The fun is trying to build a team together as you progress and end up with a broken build like in other Vampire Survivor clones.
>>744614179i'm ok with this
>>744562058>Goth S+M waifuNot anymore. Now she's Generic Pure Childhood Friend.
>>744593547But the Original story mode from the first 2 games are unmatched.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M61oa3tOsL8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioAAx0z_2jo
>>744589275>dw4 nanmanFuck that stage. I still remember the first time I succeeded at it, happened because they wiped damn near the entire map, and I sat at camp defending until the ikkitousen morale boost kicked in, then just ran through.I don't remember how long that took, but it seemed like forever.
>>744613578It still cracks me up that she became attached to Himiko, and is perfectly ok with being treated like a big sister underling.Da Ji got a lot more depth in later games than she ever really needed.
Musou bros, whats the best one to start with and what's the best one in general? Would rather just buy something off steam then emulate
>>744617251do you want dw specifically or one of the spinoffs? hard to go wrong with 8xlce
We will wipe out the whole Sun clan of Wu!>>744617251Actually 3
>>744617251If you really want to get into it, I recommended starting with DW3 and go from there so you can experience the changes and updates.
>Koei-Tecmo would rather soft-reboot Dynasty Warriors than actually do late Wu stuff giving us losers like Cheng Pu whose main accomplishment is "being that guy who's been at a job forever but never risen above his entry level wagie position" because all the interesting late Wu characters like Luban completely destroy the Big Happy Family role they shoehorned Wu into
>>744591024Dissidia NT was good and I'm tired of single player babies crying about it.
>>744617498If anything, DW3 Shu maps really captured the feel of being the underdog.
Musou is held back by war of the three kingdoms. Let it go KT. If you can't get an interesting license, just make up your own shit.
>>744617381willing to start with any i have a passing interest in it all even Pirate warriors if it's good i don't mind but i have heard 8 is a good place to start and old enough where i can play newer ones after>>744617498>>744617672If you're on about the upcoming remake wouldn't that make the older ones seem worse if i get into it and wanted to play more in the series though?
>>744618291I mean the original PS2 version.
>>744618291i havent played them but i was interested in pw too so that might be a good starting spot. 8xl would be my next vote because its a pretty polished dw game in general with a lot to do if you enjoy these games
>>744618632Well what i can tell from a glace 3 is better than 4 however it's a shit port>>744618421Oh, isn't there two different versions?
>>744618813>however it's a shit portthis must be your first koei port. they are notoriously lazy
>>744619073yeah thats why one of my original questions was which is best because it seems majority have problems in some way apart so it's hard to tell whats worth buying
>>744618813There's DW3 and DW3XL. XL is essentially an addon and requires you to use the original DW3 disc to unlock base DW3 while playing 3XL. Speaking of which, an anon has already made isos that combined them for DW3, DW4, DW5 and SW1.https://mega.nz/folder/x3xUgAwR#YzWG94u6B3Kk6xLuXiSQ5w
>>744619232going all the way back to the original dw 4 pc release it lacked options, but i never had any issues with crashing or any bugs with their games. and dw games aren't exactly the latest and greatest graphics so almost any game should run on even old hardware
>>744619232>>744619337Not so much bug problems, but the early steam PC ports were ports of the PS3 versions instead of the PS4 versions. Also bad UI with buttons being labeled as numbers instead of controller buttons because they were behind on the times on that front. They did eventually get better.
>>744617929The games focus on the story. Most of the story's focus is on the two primary generations of wu/shu/wei, who are the best-known and popular. Stands to reason that's what the games want to coverHonestly, I was shocked they even bothered to work some of the later Jin people in. Zhuge Dan kind-of did something dramatic, so yeah, maybe, but Wen Yang was a participation award, basically only included in the story to surrender and make Zhuge Dan look stupid.
>>744619613>Also bad UI with buttons being labeled as numbers instead ofi forgot about that. man they were so fucking lazy. but at the time, having dw 4 on pc was so cool because it was dw on pc without emulating (ps2 emulation wasnt even good then, nor the hardware needed anyways). but it wasn't xl or empires, and i still played the hell out of it anyway.
I like Samurai Warriors 2. I hope it can get the remaster treatment if DW3 turns out to be good.
>>744619267Thanks anon>>744619613>>744619337Ah i see i don't mind small shit like that as long as they're not crashing sounds like 8 is probably the place to start on steam but majority are worth playing then? From a quick glance it seems like 8xl and Orochi 3 are the better ones though right?
>>744620098i havent played the new orochi games so i'm out of date there, but those are basically a mashup of other games like dynasty warriors and samurai warriors. they come up with their own convluted plot for how all the characters end up together because orochi, a demon guy, split up the timelines so everyone is drawn together. i really enjoyed the first 2 just seeing the crossovers and it gave them freedom to come up with new missions and stuff. dw is kind of stricter and more about romance of the three kingdoms (tho some games have other modes and what if scenarios). i think you'd like either but orochi should be the more bonkers of the two. pirate both and buy whichever you prefer
https://youtu.be/Fv2OhXuJBpk
>>744595671>>744595792Nah, those names are intentionally sexual.Full Frontal, Quattro Vagina,...
>>744596121There is one single reason I hate WO4. It's the worst Orochi for sure and that's because of the pacing of the battles. Literally - I really mean literally - every mal is:>fight your way to a checkpoint>wait for dialogue until next objective or enemy spawn>repeatOn your first time you might not think about it much. But on repeated playthroughs where you just wanna mow through the map you literally can't because of this start->stop pacing. Also getting endgame weapons were very very boring as fuck and boring endgame generally. Also it's a boring "camp" compared to WO3.If it weren't for that, it would've been on par with WO3.
>>744622189Unfortunately that has been the Musou formula since DW7/SW3Koei has forgotten how to do anything else. It's one of the main reasons I hate everyone saying DW8 is the best one when it's one of the biggest offenders of this.
the best DW is?
>>744623061you'll never get one answer. sw2 empires is my personal favorite. 3xl for dw (not remake)
DW1 was underrated.Almost as good as Soul Edge (outside of sheer content, of course), which is saying something.
>>744623432its alright but nothing special. there was a lot of 3d fighters out at the time similar
>>744623583There was Toshinden, which was hot garbage, and...?
>>744623825dead or alive, tekken, virtua fighter, bloody roar, even sailor moon had one. 3d fighters were a dime a dozen at the time. dw 1 was one of them
>>744624236Weapon fighters are not the same category as 3D fightersI can see you are not a fighting game player
>>744624418i enjoyed them into the ps2/xbox/dreamcast era but thats also when they lost their luster for me, so no i haven't been a 3d fighting game enjoyer in a long time. since you mention weapons yeah soul edge/soul calibur was about as good as it gets
>>744593547I appreciate that they let me play as my waifu.>>744595792No, it's supposed to be nudity as an in-universe means of conveying that he "has nothing to hide." It's basically just the kind of retarded shit you'd get from a guy writing an entire story based around Zeon apologia who then went on to ruin the Space Battleship Yamato 2199 sequels.
>>744573490what game
Sell me on WO4U vs WO3U if I only care about fat tits and good gameplay
>>744560239I literally refunded the game because of thisI just assumed it was a portent of things to come
>>7446254594, easy
>>744626251done, time to see if its better than HW
>>744576357Nope. All Ziluan, all the time. They did fucking nothing with him either - they could have actually given him a future seeing as he's completely fictional to the RO3K setting, and made him an interesting character, but nope - amnesia, forced drama with your mate and that's yer lot.Leading on from my "forced drama" bit from above, I went Wei first because I REALLY like Origin's iteration of Cao Cao. The JP voice actor did a fantastic job. He's still calculating and ruthless, but he's charismatic, empathetic and relatable as opposed to his cartoonishly authoritarian previous representations.
>>744626295Good choice
>the only good Hyrule Warriors game
WHY THE FUCK DO THESE GAMES STILL NOT HAVE ONLINE MULTIPLAYER?Omega Force is literally fucking insane and so is Capcom for not stepping in and forcing it. Like MH : Worlds totally blew up as babby's first MH on steam, imagine how it would have done without multiplayer.MP makes hack and slash games better, no question. It's LITERALLY just adding a force multiplier for the game's value to the consumer.
>>744626570They did have online multiplayer - on consoles.
megaman warriors
>>744626609Are you suggesting that Sony is stepping in to deliberately reserve the best features of the games for their consoles to try and compete?I mean... it sounds conspiratorial at first, but the more I think about it...
>>744626538is this really the only good HW game? I have this one. Considered the other ones.I also play some pirate warriors 4.
>>744626538insane that they made three and only one was worth playing
does picrel count?because it was a great game
>>744626765No. That's just a generic hack and slash that was very common in the 6th gen.It's one of the worst ones, too.A proper Omega Force made SC Musou would be straight dimes
>>744607258Spirit of Sanada is kino
For those curious, this is the only actual Western produced Musou game outside of Troy
>>744626524are there any good blonde hoes
>>744627571yeah athena has pretty big tits
>>744627598kino
>>744568091>>744614237I see, thank you, any dlc worth getting too? Seems like they are just extra costumes.
>>744627571Zhu Rong is forever
>>744628021yeah but have you seen the size of the guy who gets on top of her every night
>>744556482They've all been dogshit since 5 and koei won't make another samurai warriors empires.
>>744628057
>>744628021holy moly
Oops, sorry, just pissing and shitting all over your faggot series, my bad, I really have to piss and shit, it isn't going to stop for another three years so just bear with me as I continue to piss and shit all over dynasty warriors and samurai warriors, it just keeps coming hahahahahahahahaha pissing and shitting it just doesn't stop hahahahaha damn my bad I am just so sorry hahahahahaha
>>744556482The gundam ones were the best and there hasn't been another for over a decade, which is a damned shame. The only real question is 3 vs reborn "totally not 4 because we used some dumbass subtitle". I thought 3 had a better story mode, IIRC that had the multiverse story thing and 4's was more of what 2 had.
>>744628314If you want story you play 1If you want game you play RebornAnything in between is just a worse version of those two
>>744629912Unless you want to play as Gundam 00 suits that weren't nerfed.
>>744556482slop genre, only slightly better than rollslop
>Defeat the Giant Bosses!>Enemies grow stronger over time!>Enemies regenerate HP over time!>Limited Warriors: Tingle, Great Fairy Link, Baton Zelda>(A-rank required to obtain item needed to unlock remaining 95% of map, which has characters/gear/etc you really want)this fuckin gayme i sware
>>744630928This is why i cheat the time limit to never move, because when A and B rank comes down to "where did these randomly spawning manhandla stalks spawn" or "how long will it take for king dodongo to open his mouth" i run out of patience.
Why isn't there any indie musou?
>>744556482I like musou roguelikes
>>744631681name 1
>>744627115>Spirit of Sanada is kinoI'm hopelessly waiting for aging characters to make it into the main series.
SW 5 when. No not that turd game, i mean the real SW 5.
GIVE ME BACK REGULAR MOOKS DOING MEANINGFUL DAMAGE TO YOUGIVE ME BACK NOT OFFICERS HAVING AI THAT LETS THEM ATTACK INSTEAD OF SHUFFLE BACK AND FORTHGIVE ME BACK ARCHER FIRING LINES OF DEATHGIVE ME BACK LESS RAILROADED STAGESGIVE ME BACK NON FUJOSHIT DESIGNSGIVE ME BACK EARNING MY FIRST HORSE (unless i play a ccommander like liu bei)GIVE IT ALL BAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK
>>744628021The only woman in the franchise who actually was fighting in battles in real life.
>>744635857Do anons not know there's a 3 remaster coming?You can see the gameplay too, the mooks apparently have full strings again, can stagger the player, but haven't seen them using musou like actual DW3 yet.
>>744636476i dont care about a remaster with roster regressioni want them to do better going forward
I'm the anon who asked if OPPW 4 was worth it. It seems to be one of those games that are really divisive, a pure 50/50 division. Not only here but everywhere I search for opinions. Therefore I'll wait until it's really really really cheap. It's not worth the risk of getting disappointed.
>>744635857>GIVE ME BACK REGULAR MOOKS DOING MEANINGFUL DAMAGE TO YOU>GIVE ME BACK NOT OFFICERS HAVING AI THAT LETS THEM ATTACK INSTEAD OF SHUFFLE BACK AND FORTH>GIVE ME BACK ARCHER FIRING LINES OF DEATH>GIVE ME BACK LESS RAILROADED STAGESRaise the difficulty. For some reason KT decided that difficulty doesn't just raise stats, easier difficulties also make enemies dumber.
>>744636696You asked literally DW3, you got DW3, stop complaining.At best if the remaster does well, they may use it as a base for their next mainline.
>>744636910its not going to do as well as originsfujoshit spectacle forever
>>744636947We can only hope. 3 was their best selling game after all.
>>744637056no it wasnt
>>744637108Which one was then?
>>744592196Unironically, you should emulate the psp port of WO2. It has more content than the PS2 version
>>744590947SW5 also turned Katsuie into a himbo, so they were already halfway towards the super pretty boy of Basara.
>>744592196What's wrong with PS2 emulation?
>>744637314even 6 sold moreand the ps4 onward games have a lot of unkown numbers for some reason so its probably not even in the top 10 at this point
>>744637504the ps2 versions have some issues when rendering above native resolutionit can be fixed with patches but many people are too lazy to do soif you go to the musou discord there are many patches for pcsx2 from framerate the resolution fix harder ai and even more enemies on screen
I fucking hate the battle system where you have to take over attack/defence points by killing mooks over and over and over again. Didn't particularly like it in Empires and when Gundam Breaker 4 was just that kind of mission over and over again I just tuned out after finishing the game.
>>744637582It was a rhetorical question
>>744637974nigger
>>744638552No u
>>744637537KT seems to believe otherwise, and I would hope they have more accurate numbers
>>744640981what makes you say that friend
>>744635857A lot of these became impossible as scale of the battlefields and number of enemies went up. You can't have mooks be anything close to a threat when you regularly rack up 1000 KOs in missions.
>>744635857>>744641645You can damage representative by assigning it to group charges and things like that. Just a matter of changing how the game's handling mob interaction and behavior. Honestly, treating every single mob as an individual instead of being leashed to groups, in the kind of numbers the game's dealing with, seems idiotic to begin with.Archer lines of death are just math - as numbers go up, scale individual damage down until equivelent result.Don't see an issue with officer AI other than clear sight. The game really should be doing things like the spontaneous duel rings from 6 whenever officers fight anyway.Railroaded stages... that's probably impossible due to KT not giving a shit. Orochi showed them it was fine to get lazier and lazier about it, and they took it to heart.>fujoshit designsIf someone's shitting around calling designs like Huang Gai's as pandering to fujos, their opinion is inheriantly untrustworthy and brainrotted. DW's got a good mix of everything and it's fine, barring two or three character changes always pissing someone off between games.I drgaf about the horses. Just make the gimmie horse even more broken-ass and cracked-hoof than the slow fucker already is now.
Atelier Musou when? They already had the 3 in Abyss and Sterk in WOAlso between WO4, Wo Long, and the 3 Arland games, I went with the atelier games in the KT sale.
Just popping in to say that Samurai Warriors 2 was the best musou game, and I will die on that hill. I played so much of it that I don't think I can ever say anything topped it. I'll just call it my personal favorite, and if that means I have shit taste, then hey I don't want to have good taste.
>>744630928>>744631130Play better, I got 100% on all maps.>but the giant bosses!Play better>but the time limit!Play better
>>744636717PW4 is good but temper your expectations, especially if you’ve played 33 is phenomenal and just has a better battle system, better story presentation, and more content with the dream log4’s emphasis on aerial combat is a little clunky, and in general character progression is simultaneously over complicated and weirdly simpleThe story is rushed, and all of the extra characters they added have no real content to play through because there isn’t much to do beyond story replays and a few challenge mapsI’ve platinumed 3 and 4 twice (ps4 and the recent next gen ps5 port). 4’s ultimate edition goes on sale for half off or more pretty often, and at that price if you’re a one piece fan, I’d say go for it. But if 3 ultimate is on sale (usually under $15), that’s a far better game
>>744645375is the dlc worth it for 3 only the base game is on sale atm
DWG2 > Orochi 2 > Orochi 3 > everything else. Change my mind.
Oh hey, the thread is still not dead yet!>>744628002Only the Origins collab DLC add something meaningful to the game in the form of extra characters and bosses, rearrangement of the stages and their form of giving you extra rewards. But even then, the thing it added to the gameplay don't differ too much from what you already have in the base game (Origins' Lu Bu and Dong Zhuo are mad fun, but so are a lot of other characters already in the base game)The rest are just extremely overpriced cosmetics (in a game where you can barely see your character), so only buy those if you want to show support to the game.
Dream Musou game? For me, I want the Punic Wars.
>>744647892I am genuinely baffled that we still haven't got a Precure Musou game yet.>this article was 11 years agoFuck!
>>744648332>Precure MusouNow we are talking
Cao Cao did nothing wrong
guan yu did nothing wrrong
>>744556482Musou games are only worth playing if it's got character creation
>>744556482 What happens after you beat a campaign in Dynasty Warriors Origins? Cuz I think I'm too main battles away from Cao Cao historical campaign I'm at chibi now.
>>744647892X-Men Musou with cel shaded comic book graphics
>>744647892 I kind of want one for the end of the Roman Empire with Julius Caesar as being the equivalent of Cao Cao or Nobunaga but they plan on making it a series so they don't have his successor nephew playable until at least the second or third game.
>>744649034He kicked off the downfall of Liu Bei and for that he's based
>>744649313>What happens after you beat a campaign in Dynasty Warriors Origins?You bin the game and never touch it ever again.
>>744556482why no musou/rotk/sengoku games general?
>>744556482Ain't much to talk about. DW5 and SW2 era on the PS2 is peak for this and Musou Orochi Z was never translated into english which is bullshit. I haven't found the enrgy or interest to give a shit after that. If there is a way to use emulator for PC for DW5, DW5:EL and DW5: Empires and actually use the "import save/insert disc" function in order to actually unlock everything, please share your magicks with me chief. Same goes for SW2 etc. The only other musou game I've been interested at all was the Berserk one, but I didn't bother.Also, I am a Gan Ning fag, he was coolest rice nigga out of the DW5 roster, even above Lu Bu.
>>744647892Arthurian seems like such a no-brainer.Thirteen canon battles, multiple smaller scale conflicts, fucking massive roster nine legendary artefacts and depending on the way you want to use myths you can even have Pwyll and Arawan show up to test Arthur.Feels like I'm screaming into the void over it.
>>744649757>Gan NingHis Musou attack is sick. Fighting him and Ling Tong (both of them raged up) to stop them from setting ablaze to Shu's main camp at the Battle of Yi Ling was gnarly.
>>744649817I don't think anyone, much less Japs could get the spirit of Arthurian tales right these days
>>744650230His musou is sick. As in ill. As in I can't hit shit with it.
>>744590909That's because koei is an odachad company while capcom is a tokugawafag company who feed the people with the lies of the tanuki clan
>>744590909>>744594623Remember an Onimusha dev interview from an American guide and they asked "so why is Nobunaga an evil villain in this game?" and the response started with like "Nobunaga is a very influential person in Japanese history, like Abraham Lincoln is to America..."
>>744650230>>744650302It's an excellent movement tool. DW5 extreme legends opening is pure kino. Then again so is SW2 and WO1>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NAON6fnExE
>>744650634>Musou game set in America>You fight the British and the InjunsKek
>>744650250I don't disagree but I just find it so odd.Like the game is waiting to be made but nobody wants to notice.
Could a new company successfully make a tabletop game based on Romance of the 3 kingdoms of China ?: And how should they do it? And how how full An influentials should name General models and other levels of name models should be and how should they get started probably smaller scare not so many name people probably a with yellow turbine Rebellion people ?
Do i need to play the prequels if i want to play Orochi 4?
>>744651027no but you will be a little confused
>>744650908>Like the game is waiting to be made but nobody wants to notice.Musou is an Asian market (keyword being "market", slums full of colonial rapebabbies who make 100 dolla a month not included).And Asians don't give a rat's ass about Arthurian legends, the Roman empire, Punic wars, Troy, all that other crap.They have their own shit that they're interested in, just like normies over here know fuck all about what Wei is or which plains formed Japanese breadbasket regions.
I'm hoping to get Dynasty Warriors 3 remastered or we done or whatever they call that level for my switch 2 but I want all the extra content besides special outfits I don't spend money on outfit that do nothing in game . Should I buy the base game for that or something extra thingy like ultimate or Deluxe edition?
>>744556482Senran Kagura games are the best musou games and it's not even remotely close
>>744648332if it ever happened, it would be dumped on bandai's Z-team, like the kamen rider ones.they won't let koei near it
give me more warriors abyss updates...
>>744645375Do I have to rebuy the next gen version, or is it one of those free upgrade patch things?
>>744651730I wish they would at least let the Z-Team make a Sentai Musouthe Battride games were honestly not nearly as bad as they should have been
>>744649354so just delete the entire field with cyclops, or be functionally invincible with wolverine?
>>744651007could be done but the likeness of chars that we're used to from koei would have to be different, or pay to license them
>>744652117What's your problem, friend? Have you never played a video game before?
There's no physical release in the west for 3 remastered, right?
>>744652201>>744651007they do not own anything about RotTK except their exact character models. And since those models themselves, aside from a few meme characters, are based on historical portrayals, they would have a real hard time suing over lookalikes anyway.
>>744652105there was that gokaiger on on wii
>still no 40K Musou>still no Warhammer Fantasy Musou>still no new Gundam Musou in 12 years>still no Marvel Musou (MUA3 doesn't count even if it was okay)>still no Azur Lane Musou (Manjuu and Koei are pretty chummy)
>>744652581>no new Gundam Musou in 12 yearswhat are they smoking? i thought the gundam musous always sold well
>>744652328There's no physical release for 3 remaster anywhere. Even Japan's Treasure Box is digital game only.
breaker 4 might as well be a musou desu
>>744652684there hasn't been a decent gundam show in 12 years, either
>>744653025There's still decades worth of content to pull from that Musou never touchedThey could even make up game-exclusive suits and stories like the EXVS games do
>>744652684Gundam has grown so big since Reborn they could make a new Musou set in the continuity of a sepcific series.A Musou set in the UC, CE, or PD eras would sell gangbusters.
>>744653301It's baffling to me how 4 musou games almost completely ignored the ONE gundam series where every gundam was a unique melee fighter
>finally make the Donger badass and cool>can't play as him
Hmm, another army?
>>744562026If you're interested in it because you like roguelites or you hope its going to be like vampire survivors you will hate it. I played for about 30 minutes and the game would pause every 5 seconds so some bitch could yap at you. The levels are very small and repetitive, the same enemies spawn in the same patterns, each level only lasts a few seconds (when the characters shut the fuck up). Overall runs feel very samey.Overall you might like it if you already love musou games, but as a roguelite it fucking sucks.
>>744654609It gets a lot better after a couple of hours and have unlocked a few more characters to make some actual decent builds.
WHERE THE FUCK IS HYRULE WARRIORS 2?!??
>>744647892One with character creation set in somewhere not China
>>744654869wasnt aoi just released?
>>744656467samurai warriors 4
>>744656775Played, need more, need newer
>>744657886Good goy
>>744557753Every new character look like they're kpop faggots. The last good character was Deng Ai and that's a decade ago.
>>744658152What about Han Dang
>>744647892Kingdom Hearts Orochi+Dissidia clone army. Or just go full silly and let me musou Goering's Xu Zhu ass as wheelchair-clad FDR
>>744651007Tabletop how? Like those wargames?
>>744647892SRW OG Musou
>>744649757>>744619267
>>744652684No new Gundam Musou probably because of Bamco.>>744654869No new actual Hyrule Warriors because Nintendo keeps asking for games around specific games (like the FE Three House Musou). Even then, it was sad how the FEW roster was kneecapped.
>>744658952YES. Something like that.
>>744658295Bit too heavy on the joke character. Forgot about Lu Su, he's pretty cool too but he's a strategist
>>744658295nta but i like his design
>>744658152>>744658295I hate that they made such a great design for Cheng Pu only for him to be wasted being in the terrible DW9 as his only playable appearance.
>>744659484He's like Canada from that series about all the countries.
>>744659737I actually don't really like Cheng Pu's design. Don't know why. Maybe it's the lack of an elder statesman beard like Huang Zhong
>>744660335 And by that I mean the anime Hetalia .
>Fire up Orochi 3>Unlock pic rel>Solo the entire game with himYep its gaming time.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jaIUlz-wNU
>>744663754how is wo3 in terms of quality? i enjoyed the first 2 but that was so long ago
>>744664104Bar none the best musou game on the market.
>>744664669thanks, sold
>>744664669Wrong, 4 beats it in quality.
>>744573304>Momiji side boob>musou ultimate attackCan never get enough
>>744649426This could work. First game ends with a Vercingetorix, second game is about saving Cleopatra, third game about taking down Brutus and Cassius, 4th game you are betrayed by Antony and take him down
>>744647892Asterix and Obelix
>>744669212>>744669370These two posts back to back really had me confused.
>>744663754he is absolutely broken as shit in warriors abyss
>>744621482Tomino names are the best.Its Shot Weapon for me.Also Tomino Warriors would be pretty great.Or SRW Warriors, I guess.
>>744654359
The bump limit has been reached.
>>744674807>>744674868op here. it was a good thread, one of the most genuine i've seen on /v/ in a while. thanks musou bros.
