Visual novels are videogames...
>>744559930For my penis
>>744559930ur brown
>>744559930wrong, also >>>/vt/ with that ironmouse bullshit
>>744559930>books are board games
>>744559930Visual novels belong on /jp/ because they are weeb shit and not vidya. If they aren't weeb shit maybe they belong on /co/?
>>744559930not at all
everyone saying no is coping.
>>744559930true!
If they aren't vidya, then why does Steam sell them?
no they aren't
>>744560330>lame attempt to refute argument>provides no justificationshut up kid the adults are speaking
>>744559930visual novels are like jrpgs without the combat, if jrpgs are games then so are visual novels. visual novels are closer to games than books.
>>744559930Weird looking Yuno, OP.
>>744559930fuck off to /vt/
Damn bro I just reacted to this wall of text dude WOOOOOAH was that a choice? That was RAD I just selected the option to get cucked and now I'm a cuck! Woahghggg now that's some bad mammajamma gameplay right there my brother
>lots of text>puzzles (i.e. player input to "solve" something is mandatory for progress) and/or minigames>failure statevideo game>lots of text>only player input is to pick story branches>no true failure state (besides bad endings)visual novelformer is ace attorney, 999, danganronpa, gnosia etc.latter is steins;gate, umineko, ddlc, katawa shoujo etc.a lot of fans of the former still like calling them VNs because they are insecure about their hobby and believe the term elevates its artistic value>"ugh it's not a video game mom, do I look like I'd waste my time on League of Legends? it's a ~visual novel~"
>>744559930If it has puzzles it's a videogame
Are VNs a dead genre?I haven't seen people talk about IPs which were made after 2015 except for streamerbait meme games like ddlc
/v/ros i hope you like my vn when it's out
>>744561081>no true failure state (besides bad endings)as opposed to puzzles which reset immediately upon failure or lead into a bad end themselves? i get your point, but then once you can simply put a buffer for your mistakes and suddenly all the negative choices become "management mechanic"
>>744563586no
We're never getting Red Garden. Curse you, Nasu.
>>744563414Gacha absolutely destroyed the genre. Why bother making a VN when you can make a gacha and reap infinitely more money?
>>744563414>Are VNs a dead genre?Yes, it's a genre that now lives entirely on the players' nostalgia. See the long awaited Tsuki remake coming out, mahoyo getting into steam, the S;G remake, etc.
>>744560892Nope.
>>744559930Kinetic novels, definitely not. Even multiple route VNs do not qualify. Adventure games like Phoenix Wright or 999 are crossing that threshold for most, and I do believe that for anything to be called a game, it needs to have ruleset or framework that guides the development of a skill for the purpose of entertainment. You could argue that deduction and problem solving are a learnable skill that can be tested within these games, but some will disagree. So no, for the most part, straight visual novels are not video games, but games with visual novel like presentation, usually in the ADV style, that have actual gameplay utilizing applicable skill, like Sengoku Rance or Utawarerumono, are considered video games.
>>744559930nay.
no they're not and if you "play" them you're trans
>>744559930We don't want VNs to be popular in the West.Imagine the shit they would put in.
>>744559930No.
>>744565518yeah one could only imagine
>>744563794):<
>>744560892>visual novels are like games without gameplay
>>744559930NoMusou aren't games either, mashing square for a couple hours isn't gameplay.
>>7445634141000xResist was excellent.
>>744560892>visual novels are like jrpgs without the "combat"that's why they are good, unironically
>>744569513>spoiler RAPE YOURSELF
>>744559930Visual novels are dead...
>>744563414Hundred line was last yearMost vn/ln are writing for gacha which led to westerns picking up the space with vns like Citizen Sleeper, Of the Devil, Bird Detective and Slay the Princess
>>744563414Gachas are modern Visual Novels. Some are even done by actual VN devs.You're gonna hate it but it's true.
>>744577230I want to read an interactive book, not play slotmachines for a chance to get a meta-jpeg
>>744577519These slot machines come with interactive books. This is the reality, bud.
>>744577230gacha is live service slop so bottom of the barrel as every other title under that model
>>744561081I'd say that DDLC is a game but otherwise I agree. There is that poem making section plus the entire point of it is that it's on your computer forcing you to interact with the files which is far more engaging than just choosing an occasional story branch
>>744563414DDLC barely clears 2015, it came out in like 2016 or something
