It's night time
>>744566043somehow underrated, despite being pokemon
>>744566043>GYM GYMwhat the fuck was their problem
>>744566043Old Pokemon, especially G/S/C, was unmatched
>>744566043Poor Ratata man
>>744566043Criminal that you didn't post the theme alongside
>>744566220Game freak actually having an excuse to be lazy and trying to reuse tile sets as much as possible to fit kanto in albeit butchered
>>744566480Unmatched in being boring lmfaoooo
>>744566043best night
Pokemon fucking sucks because only gen 2 even bothered with this shit, absolute slop series for shit eaters
>>744566043Post the creepy pasta
There's no rain on this route in the original games, but there is in the remakes. This is from a mod that adds rain.
I’m waiting for pokemon that come out during the daytime
>>744568387hoothoot is best gen 2 bord
>>744566220FUCK JOHTO GYMSWE GOT GYM GYMS
>>744568357What was the reason for adding rain to that route? It is very short, has a single trainer and all the pokemon are the same stuff you have seen before. I don't recall any pokemon in gen 1-4 requiring rain to evolve.
What if they did gsc but actually did it
>>744566043it was cool when I was a kid but I hate when rom hacks do it now, because the only time Im going to play vidya these days is at night. and having the overworld always be night (usually the worse looking palette) every time I boot up the game is really fucking annoying. boktai is basically unplayable without hacking the clock for the same reason.
>>744568726Rain gave you different personality traits
>>744568797set your clock +6 or +12?
I'm pretty sure that playing Gen 2 on release day as an elementary schooler was maybe the single peak moment for video games.I've been chasing that high since then and not a single thing has ever once gotten close.
>>744568759That image alone requires more sprites and memory than the entirety of GSC
>>744569794When I went back to Kanto I was literally euphoric. I couldn't believe that such a thing was even possible.
https://youtu.be/Gl8GG3uIWgk?si=69oh1mnNkYzfKJdj
>>744566043Bot thread
>>744566043Realtime day-night cycles are much, much more soulful than in-game day-night cycles.
>>744571768I am not waiting 22 hours to catch a fucking Surfing Pikachu.
>>744571768this, fuck autists that can't see the beauty in it
>>744571825>he doesn't put his alarm to 4:19 in preparation for it to appear one minute later and catch itIs not rocket science anon.
>>744566220It's when you need to GYM at the GYM so you go to the GYM GYM
>>744571825Just drink coffee
>>744568357>innocent lass wandering around>half-naked oji-san frantically looking around for prey in the rain, at night.>(you)What a scene.
>>744566220It's in case you fuckin' forgot the first time
>>744568151>only gen 2 even bothered with this shitTime is in every game but gen 3 you paltard
>>744568759soulless
>>744566043>speak to nurse joy>"good evening! you're out late!"KKKKIIIIIIINNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOO
>>744566043Comfy
>>744576702Pokecenter should ban you from healing after midnight and tell you to go home like a good kid.
Home
*new bark town theme intensifies*
>>744579237I mean, it's a hospital...
I want to go home
>>744566043Why didnt Falk er have a hoot hoot and a noctowl? You could catch them on the previous route.
>>744566043Imagine how god-tier Gen 3 would've been with a day/night cycle.
>>744566043I wish Pokemon was a little more involved with it's gameplay. They made the switch to 3D with very little to actually justify it beyond "it's 3D now." Could you imagine a fully realized Pokemon game that knew it's limits and stuck to what would be easiest to build from instead of half-assed "baby's first landsculpt in blender."
Pokémon news is coming. I can feel it in my bones. In elementary school, a shiny Pokémon card was left in my pocket on a hot day. The foil melted and seeped into my skin. Ever since THAT day, I know when Pokémon leaks are coming.
>>744582991Just make pokemon an autobattler with skills on cooldown that you occassionally use.
>>744582991Legends Arceus and Scarlet/Violet is pretty much a complete realization of the Pokemon concept, the execution sucks dick but it is in essence what people had in mind when they thought "Pokemon in 3D" and let's not kid ourselves if your younger self saw these games running back in the early 2000s you'd shit and piss your pants.
>>744566043what city is that?
>>744568759Overdesigned mess
>>744568759That's why new games from nu devs suck ass:Zero image clarity.If you have to study the image before you understand what is going on, you failed as a game designer.
>>744583674Misty City. Getting 100 coins on this level is brutal, and I still don’t know where the 4th star is.
>>744570286>When I went back to Kanto I was literally euphoric. I couldn't believe that such a thing was even possible.Imagine my disappointment when I realized that Gen 3 was over after Hoenn.
>>744583864>Misty CityThanks
>>744566043>>744568209>>744568309>>744582991soul>>744568357weather system wouldve been soul overload but i bet itd be linked to gay shit like pokemon only showing up in certain weather. what mod is that though out of curiosity?>all romhacks are pointless troon shit or someones headcanon like fakemoni tried crystal clear but idk theres something janky about it. my ideal romhack would be pokemon crystal with gba graphics, customise the player sprite, buying houses/decorating and no HMs. or my gay fanfic tier shit would be that HMs are now key items,>shears for cutting>sledgehammer for smash>surf/hoverboard that gets upgraded for waterfall and flyetc. i hate having to specifically catch a pokemon that can learn the most HMs or sacrificing slots on my main pokemon.
>>744586208Sour Crystalhttps://www.hackdex.app/hack/pokemon-sour-crystal
>>744586625>gen 9 stats>gets rid of ghost and dragon type???>some stupid headcanon shit called swarm idekyeah the only good thing about it sounds like the pager system which im guessing you still need to catch the pokemon, teach it a HM and then page it
>>744568759what's the city in the background
>favorite spritefor me it's houndoom
>>744587276my favs havent changed since i was a kid, i like sandshrew, beedrill and starmi
>>744586928Bro.>gen 7 stats>dark and dragon are made physical types while ghost is made special>enhances the vanilla mechanic known as swarms with more pokemon capable of swarming and a higher shiny chance for swarming mons>also backporting the better pc management from gen 3+ is nothingYou are a retard who is barely literate.
>>744587276251 doesn't look like much on 20x13 grid...
>>744566954every kanto town being fuckin' elevator music was unfortunate. the best thing heart gold and soul silver did was actually completing kanto. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyx1er-ygbc
>>744588191yeah so "how can i make this not crystal and my own headcanon". some of that shit is hardly different than what i said. i dont think its ever refered to as a swarm ingame but mustve missed that crap and i put hundreds of hours into crystal the last 2 years, still theyre just modifying basegame stats and spawnrates to suit their nupokemon shite
>>744568759>visit the real world>soulless, zero image clarity, overdesigned
>>744587276Arcanite, Jolteon, BlastoiseGen 2 designs are the worst of the first 5 gens.>ZOOME...I'm 35
>>744583759>pokefags when the forest isn't the same tree copy/pasted 500 times>jannies unironically defending gamefreak by deleting my postsfuck you janny dont delete my comments ever again
>>744588704nah your not a zoomie, just have no taste (or are a furry), emerald was the game where designs are shite
>>744588793gen 3 is superior to gen 2 in every way other than not including kanto again which was the only saving grace of 2
>>744588780yeah they will delete specific posts in pokemon threads and its fucking hilarious. as if you needed more proof the nintendo fns on the staff team are fucking pathetic
>>744568759The Monster Crown approachIt's not actually very good in action
>>744588867yeah your an autist who goes on about muh bonus map or whatever idec lul, gen 3 mon designs are gay, stay mad
>>744588595>muh headcanonHeadcanon refers to things not stated canonically. What you're mad about isn't headcanons, it's just changes. Which makes it odd that you're trying to consider romhacks at all.>nu-pokemon is dragon type moves all being physical and not all being specialThey could've back ported the physical/special split if the goal was to "update" it you mongoloid.>they're not called swarms in game!!!No, they're called swarms in occasional strategy guides and by most community resources though, because "mass outbreak Pokemon" is an unwieldy phrase in comparison to "swarming Pokemon". Just like how they never technically call the starters that and instead use "first partner Pokemon".
>gen 2 isn't dogshit cope, the threadsad!
Post your favourite romhack.I'm in the mood for some Pokeymans.
>>744589165not a romhack, but i enjoy pokemon infinite fusion.
>>744589013by headcanon i dont literally mean "my fanfic about what happened in the story" i just mean personal changes suited to ones taste, which i basically what id do anyway by replacing HMs so whatever. still dont get the whole split thing or what goes on under the hood but, because im still learning crystal, i dont want stats to change or some nupokemonfag putting their later gen changes in. i just never liked HMs thats it, thats all id change, and id like a different player sprite, maybe more house customisation
>>744566220The actual answer is that they copy-pasted tiles in order to save space.
>>744589060Gen2 will forever remain in my heart as THE best gen. I still remember excitation and little insecurity as I explored the world in game. When I shared what I found with other boys at school. When I carried the game and emulator on floppy disk to play at grandfather PC during summer break. When I actually played it, sitting in dim light, on makeshift desk, at the celling "room", with rain outside and glass of homemade grape juice.I played other games after that but none of them would match Gold and Crystal.
>>744588918Monster Crown is a terrible game attempting to get a free ride off Gen I & II Pokemon aesthetics. I think the second game literally got the person who made that image to do pixel art but it can't cover for bad gameplay and the frankly pathetic "dark" writing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFNHlJ6yvEA
>>744571768There's a beauty to it, but it can be rather inconvenient. I think in-game cycles allow for more mechanics to be tied to the day/night cycle.
>>744589165Clover.
>>744588357The remade Vermilion City theme is actual perfection: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DeemFyiRwo
>>744589165Infinite Fusion. Love my little freaks. And the game is extremely expansive at this point.
>>744589305Personal changes suited to one's taste isn't at all related to the term "headcanon" if those changes are on a gameplay level.>still dont get the whole split thing or what goes on under the hoodIn gens 1-3, every type is hard stuck as either physical or special. So say, fire, electric, and ice were all special types to begin with, so fire punch, thunderpunch and ice punch are better used by Alakazam than Hitmonchan and basically function as lesser versions of flamethrower, thunderbolt, and ice beam. Until Gen 4, where they became physical moves, and actually set themselves apart.If you don't know enough about your Pokemon's stats to understand how whether a move is physical or special affects it, how can you even tell the stats are different from vanilla?>i just never liked HMs thats it, thats all id change, and id like a different player sprite, maybe more house customisationAnd there's someone out there for whom all of this would be intolerable and all of the changes this hack makes are fine.Also, for completeness, lore on the term "swarm": the community term likely became "swarm" because most people started talking about them in the Gen where they're called "swarms of Pokemon" in-game as you're being notified of them, Gen 4. Most people started talking about them in Gen 4 because that's when the mechanic was expanded from basically being a cute bonus way to get a couple Pokemon you've already got to being your main way to catch a bunch of natdex Pokemon.
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>>744589165Disregard any opinion that borders on edgy games that add a vaginion pokémon, just play PURE RED.
>>744566220
>>744589736Bro this shit sounds like Rugrats.
>>744568759I found the vaporeon that wants to fuck, what do I win?
>>744583565>Legends Arceus and Scarlet/Violet is pretty much a complete realization of the Pokemon conceptLol in what universe? They are fucking trash in both execution and ideas, with muh anime character plotlines shoveled down your throat each step you take.
>>744568209https://youtu.be/Ca54RXztHrE?si=_dPl-7ZhMBnqG3NfNot posting the theme is criminal
>>744590549People who turn their nose up at the very concept of story are not to be trusted.
>>744568759That is ugly. An eyesore.
>>744590623Yes they are when the story is dogshit like every single fucking pokemon title that decided to focus on a stupid gimmick or not canon lore
>>744590823Yeah I'm sorry, your reaction to any character speaking to you for any reason other than to deliver a vapid excuse for the item they're about to hand over being "ugh why is this like the anime" reveals you as not worth listening to.>not canon loreWhat fucking Pokemon game are you complaining about not being canon? They rewrite canon every fucking main game to include the new gimmick anyway. They've done this since Gen 6 literally dumped us in a new dimension.
>>744568759>overdesigned>zero level design>east exit is even roadblocked>treats maps as Where's Waldo illustrations
>>744591041>They've done this since Gen 6 literally dumped us in a new dimensionExactly, games are fucking trash since XY, im glad you understand that.
>>744568759how much you'd actually see at any given moment
>>744568759>look bros! this is a videogame straight up from my cardboard johto map!!! This is why fan artists can never make games.
it simply can't be done
>>744589165touhoumon world link revised. it's just hoenn and kanto but all the pokemon and major npcs are replaced with touhou characters, and the songs are pokemon style arrangements of touhou music. also some qol stuff and i think a third custom region
>>744591703And? That still looks good.
>>744591829And? I didn't say it didn't look good. I only cropped it to the GBC res (4x).
>>744589165Peridot
>>744588793>emerald was the game where designs are shitehoooooooooly fuck end your life
Is there any hack that stitches together the entirety of PokeJapan? I imagine that's a pretty tough proposition given no matter what gen you start from you're going to have to make at least one region from scratch. But surely by now someone has, right?
>>744592236does pokemmo count
>>744566043GEN II>weekdays>time of day>radio>calling npc's>pokemon breeding>held items>berries>adds a small amount of quality designs>a whole another map after main story>probably stuff I forgot.<a youtuber said le level curve is badGEN III>removes most of the above>pokemon contests are cool thoughNOW>One bad gimmick per gen shoved down your throat, the whole story revolves around it almost exclusively.At least the character designs have mostly ranged from great to only slightly terrible.
>>744588704>Gen 2 designs are the worst of the first 5 gensThat's gen 5 and it's not even close.>>744588867Gen 3 is my favorite too anon but no. The lack of a day/night cycle and well animated sprites despite being on a new handheld was such a disappointment. Ruby, Sapphire and FRLG didn't have the animated sprites at all, and when they finally came back in Emerald they looked like shit compared to the old Crystal ones. They didn't even bother making the new games compatible with gen 2 despite it being possible to do.
>>744592308>thirdie infested grindfest with restrictions for the sake of le economy and a cash shop that give you in-game benefitsNo, it doesn't count. The regions aren't even connected seamlessly, you just take a boat and load up another rom for whatever region you're in. You might as well just play the actual games and avoid all the lame and gay restrictions the devs put in.
>>744592493The level curve DOES briefly stall out for a period of the game where the player generally wants to get stronger. Chuck, Pryce, Jasmine, and the final Rocket Executives at the Radio Tower all hover within 10 levels of one another. This is the portion of the game where you're set free and allowed to do a few things in whatever order you like, mirroring the stretch of Gen 1 after you get through Rock Tunnel. But gen 1 still had this period span over like 20 levels, because they knew you'd want to be around level 50+ for the pokemon league.
>>744566043Never read Pokemon's manga beyond Yellow despote being the best thing put of this franchise. I think I'll start reading Gold/Silver now, it'll be a comfy time
>>744592308I thought pokemmo used the actual ROMs to provide the regions. To me that implied you were just sort of maybe traveling by boat or plane or something with a cutscene and a selector, rather than actually connecting them. Does it also include original areas linking the regions together?
>>744568759>no one pointed it out yet
>>744592493>GEN III>removes most of the aboveHence why Gen2 is still the best. The funny thing is the pokemon killers hardly have stuff like this either.
>>744589490Was going to post the same. Alsohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWsLm7mND1k
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>>744568759Comfy
>>744593759Gen 3 kept most of that, though, didn't it? It lost heavy daily function integration but it still had stuff that happened in real time, still always tried to have an equivalent to calling NPCs (fame checker, match call), still had breeding and held items, massively expanded berries, and added abilities.
>>744593638>>744590236
>>744594201aw man
>>744566220PIKA PIKA
>>744594256>>744594101>>744568759what would be the minimum hardware? DS? even then another has pointed out that it is over designed.
Remember this?
>>744594506GBA could probably handle it if you were smart.It's a little overdesigned but I think it still looks nice.
>>744594101
>>744566043RSE not having night time was criminalAny romhacks that add night time sprites?
>>744594545FUCK YEAH SEAKING
>>744594506The largest GBC game is 8 megaBYTES so the bottleneck most likely shifts to dev time/costs.
Day and Night mechanics are so cool but playing these games as an adult (inb4 >playing pokemon as an adult) is frustrating because I literally can only play them at night after getting home from work. Yeah you could fudge the clock but then you get the opposite problem where you can only play during the day.
>>744594894I don't know if they fully made the switch, but I recall discussions about Polished Crystal dropping the real time clock to have access to officially larger ROM sizes. They replaced it with steps moving time forward or something.
You'll notice people bitching about shit like real-time day/night cycles and daily events just want to check off a box and call it good. These games were meant to be fucking PLAYED. You messed around when you could, found Pokemon, discovered shit, etc. Even shit like headbutt trees and swarms were made to make everyone's experience a little different. These are things you'd find and tell people about at school or whatever When you give yourself a checklist and analyze the mechanics of the game and the code for how everything works, of course you're gonna bitch that it's "tedious". Because you're just going through to say you did it instead of simply playing it.
>>744594974yeah ok bitch go get your gen 4 munchlax
>>744594967That's fucking gay. Polished Crystal is novel but it's basically Crystal in name only at this point. There's so many mechanics and bullshit added from every other game that it doesn't even feel like gen 2
>>744595089True to its name it Polished the rough parts. It's not allowed to be an old game, even down to the visual design. An HGSS demake if there ever was one.
>>744595089What would be acceptable additions that still "feel like gen 2" then?
>>744567794No.
Thoughts about romhax that add phys/spe split to gen 1, 2 and 3?
>>744595580Lame and gay. Why even hack old gens if you don't play by old gen rules?
>>744595580Good shit. I like anything that makes your mons more flexible for the most part, it only really went overboard in the main games by Gen 6+, picking ideas selectively from the future games is smart.
>>744589969right understood but i dont want to learn how crystal works, because i was too retarded to over 20 years ago, then have some "qol" changes where i may as well be playing gen 4+. yeah ok but people have been saying "starter" since the 90's, sorry i dont fully immerse myself in the current day autist fanbase?
>>744595330New locations that fit the world or expanding on existing locations is neat. Stat/movepool changes can be okay. Physical/special split isn't necessary. Backporting every new mon and typing overhauls for a lot of them is a bit much.Basically, I feel like if you can't take your team into Stadium 1/2 and play within the normal confines of those games, then you're not really playing "gen 1" or "gen 2" anymore. Again, not necessarily a bad thing. I just think the name Polished Crystal is pretty fucking disingenuous at this point when the scope is far greater. It's basically a "Modern Crystal". >>744595580I get the appeal and it's fine sometimes, but in general I don't get the obsession with porting literally everything possible from subsequent gens. If you don't enjoy the mechanics of gen 1-3, why the fuck are you even playing them?
>>744595580For me it's a negative.I like playing without the split sometimes. It had some sideffects so it's nice to play without it sometimes.No split with Dark being a physical type would be ideal.
>>744595580as a genwunner to this day I still don't understand the split, but I fell off after gen 4 started
Why didn't gen 3 have night time? All the soul child me missed out on playing pokemon emerald because gamefreak is a lazy company
>>744595580I think the later games are more mechanically interesting so I prefer backported mechanics. I won't say no to some pure gen 1 jank once in a while, though.
What’s the best RSY rom that lets you catch them all?
>>744598189nigga it cannot be simpler to understandbefore the split each type was either always physical or always special, now all types have both physical and special moves
>>744598489you lost me
>>744595580type split was best balance change they ever introduced, gyarados sucking at surfing always pissed me off
>>744598189Physical moves use a Pokemon's attack and defense stats. Special moves use a Pokémon's special attack and defense stats.Before Gen 4, a move got whether it was physical or special from its type. So every fire type move was special, and any Pokemon using any fire type move was thus rolling off its special attack. This means that certain combinations of type and stat are kind of inherently incongruous.Gen 4 made it selected per move, so the elemental punches could finally be useful on fighting type Pokemon.
>>744566043
>>744587276Entei, Primeape, Victribell and Tentacruel look cool in this game.
>>744596782>New locations that fit the world or expanding on existing locations is neat. Stat/movepool changes can be okay. Physical/special split isn't necessary. Backporting every new mon and typing overhauls for a lot of them is a bit much.Funny enough, we actually seem to agree here. Is backporting mons and types and moves to such a wild extent really that common in any romhack that doesn't aim to completely keep move pools and such the same?Also, I like the phys/special split, I don't "need" it, I just like to see it in these older games because I like to have the flexibility it offers along with some of the mechanical specifics of these older gens.>Basically, I feel like if you can't take your team into Stadium 1/2 and play within the normal confines of those games, then you're not really playing "gen 1" or "gen 2" anymoreSo... you aren't actually fine with stat or movepool changes then? Or at least, you consider them not to fit within gen 2 at all?
>>744595580I don't like by how much the phys/special split increased the damage dealt in the game, the modern games are one-shot fests.Granted, it's not just the fault of the split, it's also Gamefreak being too generous with their movepools.
>>744594506>>744583759>>744591445>overdesignedMeaningless old good new bad buzzword.
>>744598976Physical/special split is fine and there's a reason they eventually implemented in the mainline games, and it does add a lot more ways to play and use Pokemon and strats you normally wouldn't. I think in general it feels like, at least with Pokemon romhacks, that EVERYONE wants to just add everything they can. It's great to have that ability and freedom, but it's also tiring. If I "just" want to play gen 1-3 with a little more, I basically have to sift through a changelog to see how much shit they added on top. Plus a lot of major romhacks that get popular and gain traction are probably going to be ones that add a fuckton.>>744598976>So... you aren't actually fine with stat or movepool changes then? Or at least, you consider them not to fit within gen 2 at all?Probably kind of limiting, but I've always felt like the Stadium games were essential to the experience of gen 1-2. I guess as long as stat/movepool changes don't go overboard then the "spirit" of those gens is still there.
>>744589165Star Sapphire
>>744599732Yeah, I think if they had re-evaluated movesets a little bit along with the addition of the split, it would've been pretty much perfect. Think of old Pokemon holding pre-split era learnsets with occasional freak shit as a sporadic advantage against the more specialized design of those to come. There's still shades of this, a lot of old learnsets look bizarre compared to modern contemporaries... but they've officially had to pare back available moves for two gens now and the game is still ridden with instant death.
>>744598514in gen 1 flareon ws abject trash necause it was a fire (then a special-only type) mon with high attack and low special. now flareon is decent because there are physical fire moves it can use with its high physical attack stat
>>744587345Soul...
>>744587276That Gengar is the best look Gengar has ever had. He never looked that cool again
>>744590196The entire soundtrack is like that. Worst soundfont ever made
>>744600042>If I "just" want to play gen 1-3 with a little more, I basically have to sift through a changelog to see how much shit they added on top.I guess I kind of take those "gen whatever but a little more" hacks for granted. I hadn't really checked them out for awhile, only full on "redone game" patches, and it always felt like there was a slightly inconsistent selection of stuff people borrowed from future games, so this sort of crept up on me. I think I know what you mean, though.>I've always felt like the Stadium games were essential to the experience of gen 1-2. I guess as long as stat/movepool changes don't go overboard then the "spirit" of those gens is still there.I'll be honest, I was really expecting someone to make a modified stadium/2 as a companion to their gen 1/2 romhack at some point. Has that never happened? We can decompile N64 games, I would figure Pokemon would be way up on the priority list.
What do female pokemon trainers do at night?
>>744601671Sleep.
are pokemon stadium romhacks a thing?
I miss when Pokémon was good...
>>744576581Gen 3 has time but it's only for berries and events, not palettes :(
>>744586208People who hate on HMs are fucking idiots who completely miss so much of the charm of the series, just like modern gamefreakI WANT it to feel like I'm on an adventure with my bros, and they're actually helping me out. If anything Pokemon needs MORE HMs. Or really, HM equivalents. Make them some sort of tutor you, the player character, visit to learn how to make the most of your Pokemon without the HMs taking up moveslots. And then add way more ways to interact with the environment. You don't get an item finder, you need to learn how to use your Pokemon to find stuff, through smell, psychic powers, whatever. Add in camping elements and make routes way bigger and more complex. No straight shot routes you walk through once and never go back to, as you become a better trainer each route essentially opens up through the ways your Pokemon (NOT YOUR KEY ITEMS) helps you explore it.
>>744595580Good. Obviously with a handful of latter gen moves added in too.
>>744601936There are a couple out there like Stadium Legacy but there aren't a lot
>>744576702why is she a nurse when all she does is push a buttondo you need a degree for thatare there colossal fuckups with pokehealing
>>744602331I feel very much the same. I want my field abilities tied to actual mons in my fucking party. That doesn't mean them being tied to shitty slot-wasting moves is okay. Not sure about camping necessarily, but yes to more and longer routes with hidden nooks to come back for later.
>>744602880Abstraction. HP and restoring it is an abstraction. If she were just a clerk pressing a button, that would imply HP was an actual force in the world that the machine directly restored. Because she's a nurse, we know HP is just an abstract representation of a Pokémon's health and its restoration might be instant on screen in the games, but can in truth involve real normal medicine.
>>744568797This is a bs argument, because you cant be too busy to not find some time during the week to play pokemon roms during daylight hours after all you post here nigga and because you dont arse yourself to change the in game clock and play it the way you want to. Besides, the game progress is not tied to day/night cycle. Only some Pokemon and some side quest stuff.Its also bs because Gayfreak brought the day/night cycle back for DS pokemon games, which means that people actually love it.In any case, good romhacks like Perfect Crystal lets you easily change the in game clock with a button combo in the start screen, so there is no excuse.Like it or not, Gen 2 pokemon games have the most SOVL the Pokemon games ever had, and its a slow dowhill beyond that point
>>744602331>Add in camping elements and make routes way bigger and more complex.I'd love that. I'd also love more side-areas to explore. The abandoned ship in hoenn is pure kino.
>>744599937No, it has a meaning. You just like ugly things and that's fine.
>>744602331that was basically my original point.....
>realtime day/night cycle on the fucking GBC>modern companies like Larian cry about how impossible a basic in-game one isthe sky was the limit back then
>>744605979especially if we were talking about always online drm bs or something. but then what world clock would you tie it to if it was an mmo, if it was singleplayer just tie it to the system clock or country of the user
i like how the game also has morning colors
>>744602331the concept of HM field moves is coolthem being undeletable until you find the one NPC, plus most of them being pointless in battle, is what makes them a problem
>>744606559
>>744606414replying to myself, but having mentioned system clocks and thinking about this fucking day/night autistic argument, if it really bothers you im pretty sure the emulator is tied to the system clock and date so you can just adjust it there lul>>744606559is this a troll and just a color palate change or actually legitt. haven't woken up before 11am in decades kek>>744606778exactly this, id rather them actually be, you know, a move that is hidden(separate) from your attacks or an item like shears for cutting or a surfboard
>>744593962Pretty cool
>>744568759I like the general vibes but honestly feel like the pokemon off the side are kinda offputting.Perhaps because i associate pokemon on the overworld being portrayed with a general sprite, rather than a proper, full fledged one.I guess one reason is size, for example the Honchkrow below the burned tower appears to be of similiar as the Arcanine or Entai.With a general sprite, you can handwave that aside, but a proper sprite makes it difficult to get the size difference across.
>>744566043Mogged by Palworld
>>744607045i actually dislike nintendo and am not the biggest pokemon fan but palworld looks fucking stupid. i dont get why they have this artstyle but then just chuck in realistic WW2 era heavy machine guns. also despite being a fan of building and decorating, i dont like the look of palworlds systems. retarded bait anyway
>>744607305Sorry that the truth hurts you
>>744592493Evil team grunts are so cute.
>>744606778It's a topic done to death but personally, the big issues are.>a lot of them sucked assthey buffed them in later generations but something like Cut was plain stupid.>multiple Water HM'sDo you really need>Surf>Whirlpool>Waterfall>DiveWhy do i need to bring like two water types unless i want to turn my one water type into a complete HM slave?Buff the moves and spread out the HM's more evenly among types, why were all the HM's loaded onto, Water, Flying and Normal?
>>744587345God I put countless hours into that gen. Where have the years gone?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ul-brw07gJo
>>744607426baitbot
>>744587276I really liked Machamp. It took up the whole corner of the screen and was very intimidating. I always got him by trading to my brother's game and trading back.Cross Chop was such a satisfying move.
>>744608659>Weather centre tells you where Kyogre/Groudon areHow were you supposed to know?
>>744607543I forget which romhack it was but I played one that tried to make HM moves actually somewhat useful in battle, like cut was a grass move, strength was fight, etc. I think maybe it was one of drayano's gen 4 roms
>>744608772the weather, if I had to guess
>>744592493This. Zoomers cant grasp just how much of a gaming innovation Gen 2 was. That game literally runs on Gameboy color and has all those features. It was mindblowing back then, and it still is today if you know videogame history.>But muh gameplay is brokenRomhacks have fixed this. Clout addicted zoomers cant bitch anymore about it
>>744566043Gen 2 aesthetic are unmatched. That melancholic and inherent nostalgic feeling Johto creates is nowhere else to be found in this series. The remakes don't even remotely compare.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aP0m-PJozWo
>>744591703You wouldn't be able to see the cool view at the top at all
>Do you know what you just did? You just took your first steps into Kanto!the series peaked here, in this very moment
>>744610407
>>744607305According to one of my Palworld enthusiast friends this is "the Pokemon they always dreamed of." It's not Pokemon in the first place. Only dances around GF's IP with the designs.
>>744607305I think Palworld poses a few interesting ideas but people got attached to the deliberately inflammatory and eye catching parts and not the interesting ones.I want a game where I can go outside the current guardrails on how the trainer interacts with Pokemon.I want a game where I use them to more directly get around. No, I do not want to automatically summon special Pokemon that don't belong to me whenever I touch the terrain I need to use them to cross. I want to USE the Pokemon that I CAUGHT to deal with a PROBLEM in the WORLD.I want a game that doesn't feel the need to be written for three year olds just because it's not rated M.Palworld put us in a universe where this game might come about, but Palworld itself is very much not what I'm looking for either.
>>744608802that's like literally every romhack
>>744610841>if you can't buy a train or boat ticket, moving between regions is forbidden to anyone who can't climb waterfallsHow very problematic
>>744611573I mean, the road from Mahagony town to Blackthorn City leads through a literal ice cave, a proper road network, let alone free public transport, is off the table.Then again, can't you jump down some ledges from the Kanto side, so it's a one way trip to Johto is at least possible.
>>744611246anon, GF cant copyright "whimsical elemental anime animal" ffs. loads of series have shit really similar to pokemon if you want to look at it like that but its retarded. welp shut it down boys nintendo are the only company who can have anime fantasy animals. if palworld has turn based battles i dont see the problem, what i take issue with is the fact it looks like simple 3d models for the mons but unity asset store minigun>>744611526i agree with all of that. id like an open world pokemon game with base building but palworld just doesn't do it for me. it looks like conan exiles but with cartoon monsters. still not as seethingly against it as most nintendo fans though
>>744610407Going to Kanto was already the hypest shit and the music going so hard there really accentuated it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJZBLs0-mEE
>>744612086Wait sorry, wrong one.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxkWDt8XSZ4Much better.
>>744605019It doesn't. It's an arbitrary criticism whenever something's more detailed than your nostalgiafag brain can comprehend
>>744612303No, you're still wrong. You don't need to be so offended though, it just means you have a wider spectrum of things you like. That's perfectly fine.
>>744568759Crass; ass
if i have a GBASP and want to play crystal handheld, should i get one of these cheap flashcart things or get a chinkheld like "someone" recommended here?
>>744592493Gen III didn't remove any of those?
>>744569991>>744612437>>744607032>>744591706>>744591445Alright lets see you do better you pieces of shit
>>744612720Except for having the ability to go to a whole region-sized space for the postgame, which to be honest there wasn't much of an excuse for. Making maps, encounter tables, and NPCs is the easy part of Pokemon game design. And they had 100 Pokemon with no natural place in the wild! It should've been a slam dunk. Would making the map twice as big really absolutely fuck FRLG or RSE?
>>744568759I don't like the "visual greebling" these pixelartists do on objects that should have simple colors, like the fucking MOONthere's something to be said too about how original pixel art was meant to be blended by a CRT and how we don't plan for that anymore so pixelartists just do whatever their sick mind wants
>>744613330That's called dithering. It's a real technique that was everywhere in more detailed older pixel art, usually the type meant to be a mostly still spectacle shot rather than moving game pieces. It's used to soften the edges of solid color blocks and create better lighting and texture. The moon isn't simple, it's got a bunch of craters and stuff.
>>744613446The moon also has a light on it at all times unless it's a lunar eclipse, kusogakia simple color for the main moon, then you stylize with the colors of the craters unlike what that dude did just highlighting whatever with that ugly teal
>>744613330>isual greebling
>>744613560>>744613330If you can't tell the difference between what they did with the stone vs what that dude did with the moon idk what to say
>>744613548He literally did that but with two shades instead of just one. This is what that detailing you requested looks like in the style the image goes for. You're probably picturing a specific moon in a specific game boy game that looks different.He started with a very dark base shade and then stepped it up to a lighter highlight shade.>>744613623I can tell the difference: the stone is meant to tile regularly and the moon isn't. That's literally it.
>>744613827Idk how else to tell you nigga, that shit looks bad!
>>744568151Anon, were you one of the poor kids who couldn't afford a Gameboy and the Pokemon games?
>>744614078And that's your opinion. You probably wouldn't like how many old PC games look either.
>>744614202haha
>>744566043looks great
>>744614202But anon, I do.That artist just has a bad grasp on what makes a cool pixel moon.
>>744614361where the fuck does castlevania take place
>>744614361This is the exact same thing you clown.
>>744606939its legit. pokemon gold actually has morning colors, not just day and night
>>744614410On real hardware, the screen would be blending that """visual greebling""" you want to throw back into my face like it means anything.That artist designed that moon to look shitty, the game devs designed that moon to blend and look pretty.Fuck you.
>>744614361That's way higher graphical fidelity. Also doesn't look very good.
>>744614504damn it really isnt just nostalgia this games soulful as fuck. i wasnt sure because the emulator i use lets you fuck with the colors, actually it reminded me of the supergameboy because you could change palattes on it
>>744614604That artist designed the moon to do the same thing as the sprite you praise. Fuck you.
im reading this moon discussion with anime voices in my head like generic male hero, older low tone voice of reason, empathetic emotional young girl, raspy evil villain and its fucking hilarious
>>744615168I think this would make most of the discussions on this site far more interesting. I'm gonna start doing this.
>>744598514Other anon explained it retardedly. Before the change, certain element moves were always considered either a special attack or a physical attack. With the split, now only certain moves can be special or physical. So you can have both a special fire attack(Flamethrower) and a physical fire attack(Fire Punch).This would also split the stats into >Attack>Defense>Special Attack>Special DefenseKind of like how most rpgs have Attack+Defense and Magic Attack+Magic Defense. Some pokemon are just built for physical only moves while others are built for special moves. Looking back it never really made sense to merge them like this but I never really looked back into the older mechanics.
>>744616248Special was split into special attack and special defense in gen 2.
>>744616574My mistake, yep you're right. I don't remember much about past gen stats and mechanics. 4th gen is when I actually started paying attention to it.
>>744589165I just the other day patched in the expanded dex and higher difficulty trainers from Storm Silver into a Japanese Souls Silver rom. It's absolutely great so far.
>>744618391any rom hacks with hard level caps? i've become a fan of exp being accelerated, but also being hard capped if you don't have the right badges.
>>744618507Pokemon Reborn
is there a way to play with only a mouse
how come the pokemon crystal pc port isn't as extensive as the rby one.
>>744619635of course
>>744567312it's not that they're lazy, they were retarded. satoru iwata fixed their code that was so fucking terrible that the game went from barely working, to having enough space to cram in a cut down, truncated kanto, complete with 8 more gyms is a fucking marvel on iwata's part. game freak has always been talented in the design, art, and music departments. their coding and writing was... questionable.
>>744589165I liked emerald seaglass
>>744619907iwata's contribution to crystal is overblown
Crystal vs Emerald - what's the goat?
>>744602615Why play romhacks that make games easier?
The PC port is awesome.
sleep...
>>744625069But I like night time!
whatever happened to that pokemon clone game, monster crown or something
>>744628008and night time likes you, anon
>>744620405QoL features that improve on shitty dated mechanics. Like QoL hacks for Metroid 1 on NES.
>>744589165Clover
>>744583508this but no skills on cool down that i have to click also remove leveling
>>744628163wait a minute... that's just zero mission
So I completed the Gen 3 dex for the first time.I'm seeing a lot of these sprites for the first time in Emerald and I can tell you the FRLG ones are generally better than their counterparts. Some of the animations were surprising though.
>>744587276What's the deal with Raikou?Could he not have enough colors until Crystal or something? Even then, he's head is different.
>>744613330> gameboy>CRTBASED RETARD
Some people say GameFreak have been shit at making games since only Gen 3. To them I say,
>>744629469then what is it mister smarty pants
recommend a pokemon hack romhopefully something that offers a new territory but grounded on either gen 1 or gen 2
>>744630029
>>744568759Love this picture. The retards who are acting as if this is too busy are retarded.
>>744630006tendies do tricks on it but he didn't do much for gen 2
>>744602880>why are you a doctor if all you do is put blood into the blood test machine
>>744630201He literally fixed their game so that it could both work and fit on a cartridge when they were at the end of their rope. Meaning GameFreak couldn't have actually finished Gen 2 if left to their own devices.
>>744630320if only
>>744589165Radical Red - it's a tryhard version of Fire Red that's actually difficult.
>>744612720>anon got a special gen 3 that nobody else had I'm jelly.
>>744622526how do you do this
>>744622526>absolutely_FUCKING_disgusting.mov
Quinoa
>>744630201Bro it ran at single digit FPS and Kanto was a single screen before he redid it himself.No, that isn't an urban legend. That's what actually fucking happened.
>>744612931>the ability to go to a whole region-sized space for the postgameJohto and Kanto together are smaller than Hoenn alone in gen 2, Kanto was added for miracle by Iwata but they had to size down everything
>>744631796I believe you
>>744568759I am enjoying Lazarus actually
>>744589165Moemon star emerald. You're welcome in advance.
>>744632241is there a flag patch
Why do we not have all gen 1-3 games on Switch 2 with home support? What's the hold up? Do you really need to optimize every single cent earned by spacing out the releases of games you don't even need to develop
>>744632346Not for the latest release AFAIK. There's some turk working on it though, also replacing lesbian couples and making the male protag white. I'm a grown man and don't care about things like that though.
are there zoomers in the thread right now anons?
>>744632676where did you get this pic of me
>>744592493>time of dayTimegating wild Pokemon is so ass. What if I wanted to use Teddiursa but my parents only let me play at night?>radio>calling npc'sPointless waste of time. RNG calls also cockblocked you from finding evo stones when they were buyable in gen 1. Not to mention gen 2 gave you a bunch of stone evo Pokemon when the easiest way to get stones was in fucking Kanto.>breedingRuined Pokemon battling for several generations and is why PkHex is still so prominent today.>held itemsLike Quick Claw? Brightpowder? Gen 2 introduced the most anti-fun hax held items to this day.>a whole another map after main storyAt the expense of making the original map half-sized. Masuda said in an interview that Hoenn is larger than Johto and Kanto combined.
>>744632793zero lies detected
There is a new rock by the water
>>744600042I think there is a decomp for Stadium 1 or 2. Most I've really seen is a hack that enables the debug menu for Stadium 2
>>744605979It also killed your internal battery, which wipes your save. Imagine having that happen in a gen 3 game.
>>744633067I love a good win-win situation.
>>744633463It does happen in RSE. It's just not tied to your save.
>>744633523now think about this. what happens if in GSC the battery dies but the save is still intact? does it default to day only? what happens to the morning and night-only encounters?
>>744633638Pretty sure the battery powers both, so the game won't save anymore. RBY has the same problem, but it's not as bad since it's not also powering a real-time clock.The GBA games use a type of flash memory for the saves, so when the RTC dies, the saving still works.
>>744633737you're missing the point
>>744633638Gen 3 was when they wanted to make the games last, so I don't blame them for omitting features that would've otherwise made stuff unobtainable.
>>744633771Like if the battery drained while playing or something? GSC doesn't update graphics for the time of day or anything until you enter a new area or building, so I guess in a sense you'd probably be "stuck" at whatever daypart you were in. Unless the game continues to update the clock based on whatever it last was. You'd still lose everything once you reset or power off though
>>744566043The first time I played Gold in 7th grade and it went from day to night it blew my fucking mind, absolute kino
>>744632793*Real time* day/night cycle was a huge mistake. These games aren't very long if you know what you're doing. It doesn't feel right leaving your home in the morning and reaching the E4 in the afternoon on the same day. Or if you're like most kids and only played during the night, what kid only goes on an adventure during the night?IMO one full day in-game should be like 90 minutes.
>>744594256den of KWAB
>>744634246Nigga you are not getting 8 badges in 8 hours unless you're adult speedrunning loser stop the cap
>>744634579this nigga sucks at a children's game lmao
>>744634579Let me guess, Kanto is also over 8 hours too? When in reality it's an hour-long boss rush with level 15 wild Pokemon?
>>744634246Because you're supposed to just play the fucking game and not haul ass straight to the end. It's a handheld game. You can take it anywhere. Even as kids you had time before school, after school, every weekend, breaks, etc. to experience every time of day.
>>744634640>Adult proud he can beat a game for 8 year olds really fastWhy are Nintendies like this>>744634693What are you even talking about
>>744634812and the larper award goes to... (you)!
>>744634848Schizo moment
>>744634848>buzzword the postLiteral n*ntenyearold
>>744634782Play the game how? By exploring all the nothing in Mt. Mortar? By looking for 1% encounters when the common Pokemon like Fearow are way better on your team?
>>744634887>>744634937>one minute apartsamefag harder lmao
>>744634887>>744634937Least obvious samefag
>>744634812Johto barely even has 8 hours of content
>>744635010>>744635019Nice samefag
>>744634942gotta catch em all until the internal battery wipes your save lol
>>744635070>22 seconds apartok retard
>>744633067What is this zoomer meme?
>>744635093I like to think this was them apologizing for viridian forest
>>744635607Creepypastas are an early soilennial meme
>>744635607It is a new rock and it's by the water
>>744635607Their website clearly looks like it's from the early 2000s.
>>744635042I have like 30+ hours on my Silver cart that I've just been playing off and on during downtime at work or at home. All I did was maintain a main team of six, play through the game, go out of my way to catch some pokemon I've missed, raise up some other mons, breed a little, whatever. I haven't even caught everything I can yet. I still haven't even fucking caught the box legendaries or the beasts even. I still want to trade over some exclusives from the person playing Crystal with me, everything we have from Red and Blue, and I plan on eventually finishing some teams that I want to take with me to tackle Stadium 2.I'm not saying GSC or Johto are fucking perfect, but there's shit to do if you actually play the game and not over-analyze every single detail and mechanic. When you go into it just trying to check off boxes, worrying about which pokemon are the best and their encounter rate, fucking with the clock or whatever to get THIS pokemon or THIS event or whatever because you want it RIGHT NOW, obviously you're gonna have a bad fucking time. Just play one of the modern games then
>>744587276Murkrow.
>>744636171holy low iq>Stadium 2far more interesting with rentals only
>>744636423Round 2 Little Cup can eat my ass with rentals.
>>744568759Damn that's lovely.
>>744583819If you have an hard time figuring out the spritework here, I suggest checking your eyes
>>744568759This would look like shit on a Game Boy.
>>744568759Can't believe I'm breathing the same air as people who say this looks too cluttered. Gamefreak buckbroke you into thinking good graphics are too complex I guess
>>744638952Post a game that looks like that then.
>>744587276>>744601461 is correct but I also love how the pinks look in these images, I think on the Gameboy screen the colours don't look that vibrant but it always strikes me how they look here.
>>744566043>>744568309Most buildings in this game look so fucking ugly, even a kid I felt somewhat disappointed by them. Specially since the pokémon sprites looked so cool, so I didn't understand why the overworld towns looked so utterly mediocre and were full of stuff like tiny houses with no doors or plain square boxesAnother thing I disliked was the fact you couldn't go behind the Silph building in RB, but I don't know if that kind of stuff is actually possible to do in a gameboy game, you probably can with some tricks but I'm not sure about a more out of the box approach
>>744568759me too
>>744639202I keep being surprised that the sprites have white and two other colors, usually black and one other actual color.
>>744640036White is just blank, innit?
>>744589165Emerald Rogue v2.0+ (most ambitious and polished hack ever)Radical Red (on minimal grinding mode)Polished CrystalROWEElite Redux (completely retarded hypermode kino)I'm more of a difficultyfag because I love Pokemon'd mechanics
>>744641427I've poured hundreds of hours into Emerald Rogue v2.0 and Radical Red, what's the appeal of Polished Crystal, ROWE and Elite Redux?
>>744639202God DAMN I love the gameboy sprites. The colors and poses are just perfect
ok, night time
>>744589165For romhacks that just try to improve the original games, I really like Drayano's versions of Platinum and HGSSFor original world and story romhacks, I enjoyed Gaia, Unbound and Scorched Silver. FireRed Rocket Edition is kinda cool too but there's literally no endgame of any kind
>>744566043Comfy as fuck
>>744612086Huh. I never realized how big Jasmine's tits were.
>>744619931I liked that one too. Very pretty.
>>744592493Let's be real, the level curve is bad. It's really bad.
I wish there was a yume nikki / pokemon hybrid romhack/project. Specially in the graphic style of 2kki's Wataru maps.Dreamworld setting with nature, abandoned cities and civilizations, abstract spaces, rusted machinery etc. No towns other than the starting area, need your pokebros to survive out there. Scavenging items, camping in safe areas, ambushes, non battle hazards.YN effects as HMs that make your pokemon help you navigate the incomprehensible landscape. Vending machines serving as the PCs.Though pokemon needs a lot of trainers for the gameplay to make sense, and abundance of people doesn't fit the setting. Maybe small groups of pokemon instead of trainers.
>>744568759>>744594101The problem to me i think is that its just too cramped, it looks cool but you can never imagine actually playing a game like this. It has to be on a larger scale. I think people calling it overdesigned are fucking retarded and just parroting each other; this would be glazed endlessly if it was a megaman-esque low poly 3d game with the same aesthetic and texturing. Midwits playing at critique when they dont have the capacity for it, like people who 'improve' comics by cutting out all the supposedly extraneous dialogue and pacing because they read "brevity is the soul of wit" somewhere
>>744591445It's from an artist collab showcase; no shit it's eye-grabbing and "over-designed".
>>744568759I think the problem with this is determining how it's meant to be playedIf you see the whole picture it looks amazing, but if it was an actual pokemon game where you only see a tiny patch of terrain at a time instead of the whole city then yes it might feel like it needs more clarity and there's too much stuff on screen
>>744644802>>744644518it looks totally fine though
this also looks totally readable
>>744644802that's called having autism, bro.this IS just pixel art with no attempt at realism. not that deep
>>744568759are there any romhacks that actually make the game look something like this
>>744645761Nothing looks that goodLazarus and Sea Glass are clearly trying that way
>>744632415No need when you can already trade from gen 3 officially and gen 1&2 unofficially already up to home.
>>744566220it's real
>>744566220It's where the gyms go to train
>>744636423>far more interesting with rentals onlylololol found the pleb without transfer pack
>>744632415The answer is yes. Heres your free market bro
>>744645761it's not feasible within the constraints of a rom to even get closeif you want to play something similar for the aesthetic, the guy who did that picture is the artist for Monster Crown (it's shit though)
>>744646883>it's not feasible within the constraints of a rom to even get closewhy?
>>744647362Any sprite based console has a limit on how many individual sprites can exist at once. The image implies too many moving parts. Background tiles also have limits that aren't being respected here but that's more of a cartridge space concern.
>>744647476is that also a problem when making a romhack meant to run on more advanced hardware? or is it something like hardcoded in the base game or something
>>744568357Me on the left: Ugly bastard staking out the middle of a route between cities with an over levelled team to challenge exclusively JK trainers and makes them pay with the bodies when they lose.
>>744648117The console is still only built to manage X sprites at a time. It might have better hardware if you're running an emulator, but the engine of every game that's ever been made for it is built on the assumption of a certain number of sprites, its code only manages that number of sprites, and many parts of the game are already designed and optimized around it.In theory, I can imagine a modern developer pushing that limit with a game built from scratch intended only to run on emulators, but in practice, that's probably not gonna happen, especially not as the basis for a Pokemon romhack.
>>744645026>>744644930that's not how big the GBC's or even the GBA's screens were
>Black and White? Now that's a classic!
>>744648652Pretty sure that's meant to be a pompadour and not a broccoli haircut
>>744647362>why?
More time has passed between the release of BW and today than between the release of Red/Green and BW.
>>744650494here's a better GB vs GBA comparison
>>744653775at actual pixel size
>>744654051I don't think that's the size of a GBA screen.
>>744654391based on where you're viewing it from, I agree. it is however the GBA resolution and the red outline contains the GB resolution.
>>744653775ah yes, the 960x640 GBA, an underrated retro machine
>>744654051>>744654492looks completely readable
>>744655001you're almost there anon
>>744654492Sure, but on a modern PC monitor, this is a postal stamp.
>>744646160>needs to cheat through actually hard content with a mash A teamWhy though?
>>744655506What are you retard mumbling about now? How do you cheat little cup mashing A now? Did you take your meds today?
>>744568759Cool as a piece of art, wouldnt be possible to run on gbc and its too detailed / noisy
is Claude playing gen 2 now?
>>744658393Whoude?
>>744661647Wait, where'd Magnemite's top screw go?
>>744566043>Beast of reincarnation was outsourced to the US and India It's fucking over for gamefreak
>>744654051>anon posts this not knowing everyone's monitor distances, resolutions, and sizes are differentpokefags will literally do ANYTHING to avoid demanding competence from gamefreak
>>744658317this idky everyones been getting bent out of shape for the past 12 hours and ive seen this pic dozens of times over the year. it looks great but at the same time is too noisy, i almost wonder if the artist intended for it to be viewed in bit size chunks (ironically like a handheld game would)
>>744662638I posted native and 4x. 3 anons with 2 different opinions. YOU figure it out.
>>744658393That paid anthropic psyop was fucking cancer
If someone is interested in these pixel redraw, here there are the whole Johto and Kantohttps://retroredrawn.com/johto/https://retroredrawn.com/kanto/
>>744663239overdesigned slop
>>744663239this one's way less noisy than the pic everyone was arguing about running on a fucking GB ffs. i like it a lot more
>>744663239There's zero style consistency in the overall maps.
>>744566954all pokemon music sucks unless it's mystery dungeon
>>744664259I wonder why that is
>>744568759i hate this 2010 tumblr pixel-barf shit
I love this 2010 tumblr pixel-barf shit
>>744663239I overall enjoy the spirit on display here. People pick a town or a route or just a spot and draw it in roughly the same scale as each other, then staple it together.
>>744664259maybe because each are is made by a different artist?
>>74466323910x improvementnintendies coping so hard
>>744590567hg/ss mogs it
>>744664515No shit, that doesn't mean it's pleasing to look at.
>>744664491again this one feels too noisy, theres only like 5 colors in the whole pic but that on side of the roof on the poke battle area thing has all of them. it still looks good tho just almost hard to look at
>>744664829Disagree, this is the right amount of detail.
>>744664829>that on side of the roof on the poke battle area thingYou can see Blaine using a fire type pokemon right there, it's the gym.Also, that looks pretty much correct to me. There's only like five colors on the screen and it uses all of them correctly. That gradient from using the darker to lighter highlight color is good work.
>>744665142>>744665621fair enough dont get me wrong i like it and its way less noisy than the japanese night one but its not as easy to look at as the lighthouse pic
>>744665931I think you just have specific taste in pixel art. That's fine. A lot of people do without realizing it. I'm very used to "noisy" pixel art, to the point that I find the way Pokemon itself looks overly simple and symbolic. It has benefits, this simple art is the reason romhacks can be made as readily as they are, but it's not the objective best way for the games to look.
>>744614410>>744614716Not even samefagging, but if this is your honest opinion, you are fucking retardedWon’t even argue or get creative with it, you are fucking retarded
>>744666392It looks like a photo of the moon that got crushed down to a limited palette and put into the game after maybe slight editing. If that's your standard for where dithering is allowed and you think it's just visual noise for no reason aside from that, then you're retarded.
>>744665075looks terrible
>>744665075That's kind of neat honestly. Just replace the shitty voxels
>>744666314well yeah to each their own. i find crystal a bit too simplistic but still good looking. i cant remember if theres a phrase but its like how you use the screen space to place things so that its always interesting, like instead of a straight road make it bend and have a well decorated grass patch beside it, i feel like crystal mostly does that well. my ideal would be gba graphics but i dont like anything after gen 3, FR/LG are ok but lack some of the features that make crystal enjoyable to me
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>>744666991I think I know the concept you're talking about but I'm not sure if it has a convenient name either. "Framing" maybe? I agree that a well done grid of standard tiles can be plenty detailed and visually interesting, I just think Pokemon leans on the simple side for the design of those tiles even long after the hardware limitations justified it. Gen 3 looks WAY simpler than almost any comparable GBA game. Not to say it should look like Minish Cap or something, but it definitely could've been more detailed.
the final gym gym leader should be Mario
>>744668004Mario should be your rival, then you team up to beat bowser at the end
>>744668004>>744668279guys you're not gonna believe this
>>744666392No u, it looks bad. Undefined pastel mush, bad composition, incorrect perspective, fuses badly with the foreground elements. It's shit.
>>744664902>my level 3 caterpie vs articuno
Pidgeot looks sick, also gotta mention my boy Feraligatr cause he's never looked better since :(
>>744664772>reee I can't enjoy this picture because there is a different picture of something different that looks differently autists aren't human
>>744664829>againplease don't double post
no game gives me that childhood feeling like pokemon gold/silver. just something about it
>>744672718tf is a double post you double newfag, kthnxbai
nintendo needs to stop fucking around and make 2d pokemon mmo a reality
>>744566480Emerald was the best pokemon aside from the ones on gamecube.
>>744676785stop double posting
>>744677570it was the first gen of pokemon games that had shitty designs for the mons yeah ill give you that
>>744663239Thanks for sharing. I get the "too busy" complaint in some areas, but a lot of them look pretty good.
>>744582991The people at Gamefreak seem barely competent at making games. You'd think Nintendo would whip them into shape considering Pokemon's popularity
>>744679404They can't, Gamefreak has an equal share in the property.
>>744641159Might be, battle screen always has white background so they can just use it as the sprite transparency color too. I can't remember if transparency can be in addition to the three colors or if it is one of them.
>>744665075>go! charizard!>surf>strength>fly>bite
>>744583345Kek
>>744665075Gamefreak, hire this man...
>>744663239>Wingull in johtoRuined
What would the world be like today if Pokemon games were good?
>>744589276>>744589840fusion was a better idea than gf has ever had
>>744684425Gross.
>>744663239I really like the style on route 4. Almost has the prerendered SNES game look.
>>744684395Directly better. Pokemon was one of the only phenomena to reach the size it did, if it had stuck the landing it would have had a dramatic impact on global morale.
>>744588595>i dont think its ever refered to as a swarm ingamegsc trainers literally called you on the phone to tell you on the phone to tell you a swarm was happening you fucking teenager
>>744688094theres like at least 1 dialogue where they "swarming". silly little cunt, i was playing pokemon before you were born
>>744688365one is enough to say you thought wrong, larper
>>744566043https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XjouKSkSeMBURSTING with soul
>>744688094Don't forget that by Gen 4, where it became a real fucking mechanic behind which mons you might want to use and otherwise not be able to were locked, EVERY notification came with the term "swarm". All of them.
Why do zooms and alpha babies hate Gold & Silver so much?
>>744688418you got btfo they dont call it a swarm. "hey these pokemon are swarming" isnt the same as "hey we time travelled and are referring to it as a swarm like little retards in the future will" ands its official name is mass outbreak so go piss your pants kek
>>744568759Vaporeon.....
>>744688660Does anyone in their right mind really hate gold and silver? At most I hear people moderately overblow their gameplay faults.
>>744587276Pinsir is cool.
>>744688660sharteens are obsessed with /vp/ and pokemon so all the fan favorites need a way to be torn down to fish for as much butthurt as possible
(You)'re almost in your forties anon.. (You) don't ACTUALLY still buy/play/collect Pokémon... Right?
>please give )me( attentionpity attentions for anon here
>>744689204
Your mother and I are getting older son... when are you going to grow up and be the man we'd hoped you would be?
>>744587276Gengar
>>744689894ghost pokemon are too scary pick something else!
>>744688812they always get extra loud when they're called out
>>744690082auuuuh auhuuhuuhuhu hummmm feraligatr
>>744690267B A S E DASED
>>744690267*tsk* that ones too violent, anon! why dont you pick the one that looks like a nice little pine cone, hes inoffensive and christian
>>744690390Togetic
>>744690450Togetic has satanic sigils emblazoned upon its body and is a product of the devil obviously...
>>744690957i like them all EXCEPT for pineco and forretress!
>>744691092wow now i actually feel bad for it. it even had that one episode where theyre all chilling in the tree and probably explode team rocket or some shit actually i dont remember a thing from that episode other than the mental image of a bunch of pineco in the tree
>>744568759/v/ is so anal about the weirdest things
>>744568759wait till everyone realizes this is AI
>>744587276CUBONE Kabuto SCYTHER
>>744691395epic bait i swear this pictures old as fuck
>>744691674you swear? on yo mama?
>>744691307You might be remembering a random isolated nature shot of them from one of the movies or shorts, actually? I have a similar mental image that I can't place. Bulbapedia usually covers this pretty exhaustively, but none of the appearances they list seem quite right.
>>744692128found it, johto journeys - going apricorn. ah yeah its where team rocket are trying to steal apricorns and ill bet the pineco drop down an explode them
>>744598884Sovl
>>744619931Same. I think gen 3 plus the new gen 4 evolutions of previous mons is a perfect dex.
>>744665075Hmm...HD-2D would look better.
>>744566043gsc fucking sucks>t. just nuzlocked yellow and crystal this year
>>744631538underrated post
>>744566043https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xm4e6qWmXUgZoomer nostalgia coming through
>>744698457sounds like two songs at once
>>744698457Oh yeah.
>>744566494
>>744566043when is this getting the HD2D recomp treastment
>>744698856Maybe never.
>>744566043testicle flowers lol
>>744699862Huh?
>>744698608There's a lot of syncopation going on, so that's probably why
>>744690267Still mad this was cut
>>744698457sinnoh has amazing route and environment music, but none of the city bgm were among my favs. i do like canalave though, https://youtu.be/6q4REbVu2cI
>>744587276The other gen 2 Articuno
>>744566043Pokemon will never be soulful ever again