>ODST-Spartan rivalry has been established Halo lore since The Fall of Reach and The Flood novels>343i managed to filter the tourists by just sticking to canon for once in their careers
>>744573398Books aren't canon to the games, troon.They even had to retcon shit in the 2010 rerelease because the games changed it.Seethe, dil8 and neck yourself, ywnbaw.
>>744573398I thought we were done with this girlboss bullshit..
>>744573398>novels
>>744573398>liberal pretending not to get it
Fuck off faggot, this supposed rivalry was actually the delusions of some schizo odst that was a villain in the books
>>744573398These weren't ODST, they were regular marines.Nice try, though.
Girlboss? More like Manboss (since she looks like a man LOL)
>>744573785more like manpuss (LMAO)
>>744573583It's all of TWO SENTENCES, jesus christ people
>>744573398Ironically, you’re right. Just not in the way you think.Using books featuring a minority of ODSTs feeling insecure to justify one acting like a toddler years later, in the middle of a battle no less, truly does out you as a tourist.
>>744573714Which is why the rest of the marines weren't schizos and only Williams the Helljumper was.
>>744573785Excuse me it's ma'am, IT IS MA'AM!
>>744573845are attractive women illegal in america?
gaylo was never good but this shit is hilarious
>>744573398Rivalry doesn't mean miss behaving or loosing focus mid top tier military operation during the most critical time of mankind, making dumb poses is the cerry on top.
>>744573934The artist team for literally everything not imported from Infinite was all in China, so you ask them
>>744573874tbf mrs potato head was also in the minority of being an insecure toddler in CEmake too
>>744573398Kek, another troon inserting his "true-self" into a fantasy world.
>>744573398>>744573845>more wokeslop flopsnice
>>744573845Context matters.This butch bitch was a pow. Chief saved her and her bosom buddies. For a thanks, she insults him.
>>744573845>jesus christ peoplekwab
>>744573583these people can't help themselvesthey'll be out of a job soon anyway
>>744574056Right after she praises Johnson on sight recognizing him as a war hero. So it's really just sour grapes about Chief being there, which isn't that unusual even outside the ODST beef since a lot of people were weird about the mystery Spartans appearing and disappearing for the 20+ years. And then not even 3 minutes after the scene you impress her enough to stop being a bitch about Chief in a firefight anyway, so it was just dumb interservice rivalry rather than "fuck you chief".
>>744573957>is the raw sewage oil on topftfy https://youtu.be/qaj4dl_6nLI?si=8sy-UZjQ5mrp_ynX&t=721
people who think portraying fantasy racism in a game makes everyone who plays it a Nazi suddenly realize that context matters and you shouldn't take a smug old ugly "girl"boss talking down to the player at face value
>>744573583>girlboss>girl Boss>>744574150Plus the worst insult she gave Chief was calling him a propaganda tool, which the Spartans literally are with the whole "Spartans are never KIA" nonsense
>>744573398Who the actual fuck would read a Halo novel?
>>744573398>Halo Studios owned da chuds by sticking a tranny in their Halo remake>Asha is busy filing paperwork with HR to fire everyone
>retards still desperately defending this crap>>744574446kill yourself
>>744574150>>744574446it's still a smug ugly girlboss talking down to the male MCdid the game need a moment like that?or do the writers just like the idea of smug ugly boss women belittling men?
>Hurr durr mah rivalryBy the time that mission takes place, spartans have existed for 20 years. Her comments about propaganda are retarded. Also by that time ODST respect the spartans, pic related is ODST saluting a spartan.They clearly just wanted a woman to talk down to Chief, a mistake they have done before and no one liked it (Palmer).
>>744574647It’s honestly baffling that people act like authors don’t control the words they put to page.Unless they’re complete idiots that just vomit words onto a script, those words are there for a reason.
i swear the person who wrote this dogshit is actually ITT right now
>>7445751354chan has a dedicated liberal cohort doing 24/7 overwatch clamping down on icky opinions, they take it very seriouslyi'm deliberately avoiding naming them, the important thing to know is that they're here and they're really serious about influencing opinions
>>744573398>>744573845
>>744575135oh definitelyalways happens when woke slop like this gets universally shit on
>>744573398Nobody cares about the books.Nobody had ever cared about the books.The odst didn't exist until the second game and they were just cool marines. Nothing more nothing less. But everyone knows the real reason she exists, lore was never in the equation.
>>744575402>dont play games just shitpost and then get excited for more shitposting
>try to escape hellworld and enjoy a videogame>suddenly Master Chief is being scolded by a character that reminds me of my mom>throw controller at wall>mom starts yelling
Serious question, wasn't HALO CE remade for the MCC?I didn't even know this was coming.
Chief didn't care about being called a propaganda soldier and just carried on with the mission, and the girlboss didn't belabor the point and just carried on with the mission too, and she doesn't even have a problem with men (she salutes Johnson), so really the only people who get mad are self inserters who think that an attack on Spartans is an attack on their personal masculinity
>be playing the halo remake>things happen that don't happen in halo>instead of being able to point them out you get dogpiled by unpaid hypemen trying to convince you everythings fine and this is betterwhat's the point of remaking a game if you're going to change it anyway? just make a new game.
>>744575723Nigga everyone is done.I don't care about loreI don't care about le context Everyone knows the actual reason she exists is to talk down the 99% male audience because some lead is a troon or fat chick nobody wanted to fuck and this is her getting off on a power trip. It's been like 10 years since this shit started in the industry.The majority is done with this I'm not buying it, halo can go die idc
>>744575779>everyone knows *incoherent schizobabble*why didn't she talk down Johnson then?
>>744575779>Spiderman 2>Guys you don't understand in the comics it actually makes sense for Mary jane to be so skillful and competent, actually you're all fake fans blah blah blah>Actually it's okay for Peter to be made fun of because women are blah blah CHUD blah blah >Look into the writer>It's just a self insert power trip at the expense of the player Every time
>>744575835He's black.You thought you had a point? In leftism being black is a few extra points.Do you think she would have done the same if it was that one white dude from halo 4 or whatever? Haha
>>744575836>It's just a self insert power trip at the expense of the player >at the expense of the player
>>744575902Not buying it. Let the industry crash. hope these game devs go hungry
>>744573398That shit is disgusting. Are you really submitting voluntarily to such visual torture and even paying for it?Are you for real? You're mind broke.
>>744575723It’s cringe and I’m not paying for it lmao. Blow it out your ass
>>744575402this but with gachai wonder why these types of images never appear in gacha threads, curious
How long are you retards going to care about this? Not a single person in this entire thread bought it so what's the fucking point?
>>744573398The rivalry is fine. The character you posted doesn't represent it.
Why does every faggot shill repeat this lie, Chief was like 12 years old when he killed those ODST and the incident was even covered up it happened like 20+ years ago before the war dragged on and Spartans became the last fucking hope of victory.
>>744573398The same books slops that had Guilty Spark resurrected?This is the canon you are bragging about?
>>744575723>self insertersI don't self insert as a quippy redditard tho.
nobody in this thread has played the game
>>744576151Why would we?
>>744576151SAAR
>dumb cunt mouthing off to her superioryass kween slay
>>744576151This is /v/ - Culture War buddy, did you expect something else?
>>744576172because then you'd know she isn't in it
>>744573398So powerfulShe inspired me to become a strong woman and topple the patriarchy so I can go home and have lesbian sex with my anime wife
>>744573845The fuck is that?
Halo 1 is simple>You're a badass in green armor with an AI Chatbot in your head >You do badass thing >People go "Wow, what a badass. I'd die for you" >You walk around >Cortana spits exposition at you and motivates you to do more badass shit with her voiceAdding a character who shits on Chief at his character introduction is retarded especially for a product that is pure nostalgia bait.
Why would non-halo players get this angry at halo players and what they enjoy, you haven't played a single game
>>744576151>Play a worse version of a game release over a decade or two ago>Play the shitty new missions where johnson is your quipped little faggot butt buddy who respawns after dying with his "unique" RailgunKys.
>>744576151basedwhy would anyone play this pozzed and unpolished slop
>>744576216Disingenuous tranny.
>>744574647The most infuriating part being that those moments never let you talk back, you just take it like a whipped bitch and do nothing about it, and it goes against the fundamental draw of vidya: player agency. If whenever this kind of shit happened, we had the option of immediately decapitating her and telling everyone else "the same will happen to the next smart-mouthed whore, got it?", then we wouldn't complain. Instead we get mandatory humiliation rituals constantly.In FNV, you can instantly blow anyone's brains out if you so wish, so any disrespect can be corrected on the spot if you feel like it. If you think democracy is cringe, nothing stops you from immediately massacring some woman commander from the NCR. If you think the penniless dindu nuffin around Vegas are just whiny entitled fucks, you can shut them up permanently.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0tVG8WTW3g
>>744576151Aww smart guy, did you learn that yourself or one of your two female dads taught you that?
>>744576282You are not proving me wrongSeek help
>>744573398lol zoomers never played 2.
>>744576318So you're going to post your Steam play time and prove me wrong, right?
>The veteran Halo dev criticises the remake.Tourist troons call him tourist.
>>744576284because when a strong woman talk, pathetic straight men listen and learn. men are weak by nature.
>>744576151But I already did.
>>744576217She? That's one "she" too much; Fuck off from my hobby.
>>744576284Why would (you) need to talk back when (you) are already a seven foot tall walking tank that can just do the job and change her mind by playing the game as intended
>>744576292based
>>744576332Seek rope tranny.
>>744573398>mfw the ONLY reason anyone cares is because this is infringing on nostalgiaHALO is a dead franchise and it's not even debatable at this point. Just let the damn thing go already.
>>744576407thanks for proving my point
>>744576472After you
>>744575978Non-gacha players avoid those threads and gacha players are too busy gooning.
>mfw accepting the fact that things i used to enjoy will be continually ruined by idiots>mfw finding new things to enjoy instead
>>744575779It's so nice to see general sentiment take this turn. I remember getting called unhinged back in 2015 over similar opinions.
>>744573931Reality is actually 100x worse than your imagehttps://x.com/i/status/2083539151085834613
Meditate with me, bros.
>>744573845>jesus christ peoplewow racist
>>744576372
>>744576151and? its still woke flopslop. me playing it won't change that. don't need to play it to know how embarrassing it is.
>>744576284I'd imagine chief being at least a little more professional about it. Like " we can discuss whatever problem you have after the mission, until then either fall in line or go home. " or something.
>>744575779It's cool that they are getting fired after destroying our hobby.
>>744576217>she
>>744576372>uh oh, this steam roller has gotten to MY political position now, maybe things have gone too farAbsolute faggot.
>>744574465i was a superfan back when the original came out and i needed something to hold me over until 2 released. 'the fall of reach', 'the flood' and 'first strike' make a tidy little trilogy that covers just before, during and immediately after the first game
>>744576372legend
>>744576575Is this Elliot Page's new role in the Full Metal Jacket remake?
>>744576710>she isn't in the game
>>744576284>In FNV, you can instantly blow anyone's brains out if you so wish, so any disrespect can be corrected on the spot if you feel like iti was playing starfield last night and i shot a random security mook in the face for being a catty cunt after i got arrested and it felt great, so you might be onto something here
this is some abysmal damage contro
>>744574465You weren't even alive when Halo started, the books were in fact popular and widely discussed at the time of release, Fall of Reach actually proceeded CE and helped generate interest. There's a reason people still begrudge Reach for presenting a much lamer and gayer depiction of the Fall of Reach than the book did. Now that said it's retarded these 343 sloppers use the books as a scapegoat to defend their own dogshit.
>>744576476how much rupees is microjeetsoft paying you to shill here, sakdeep
>Gaylo niggas trying to act like oldfagsmy sides are in orbit
Don't you guys even get tired of getting this mad every time a female character is in a video game
>>744576973>You've not played the game>how dare you call me out on my lying you're clearly paid by microsoft to shill a game
don't you get tired of being a shill?
seething gcj trannies and microjeets outing themselves ITT
>>744573398>SHIT! SHIT! FUCK! THE CHUDS ARE NOT BUYING OUR GAME!>FUCK IT! LETS BULLY THEM WITH MORAL GRANDSTANDING!Still not buying your game lmao!
this sort of antagonistic posting always happens when their woke slop flops
>>744574465Me, I read a few of the books back in middle school because I liked science fiction and never played the games until the MCC released on pc
>release a broken ass glorified Reach mod with a UE5 graphic filter>ah shit people are gonna tear us to ribbons for this, we know it’s not great>quick! stirr up some drama about this female ODST that literally fucking died after 3 cutscenesit’s not even really “girlboss”. it’s so fucking dog shit marvel tier millennial writing. the cutscenes look like amateur blender anims. there’s a weird fucking delay when swapping weapons i never got used to. the fucking sword elites do a quick-flick insta kill move. it wasnt even this non-telegraphed in Reach and i didnt like it there either but the elites are martial art autists and do these kicks and all that so i got used to it. i swear even in Reach that quick flick insta kill is animated / telegraphed better too. man, in original halo 1 sword elites swing their entire body INTO the swing. it LOOKS like it would level a supersoldier in one blow. it’s telegraphed so you can avoid it in gameplay and looks like there’s full force behind it. not to mention some graphics cards needed a fucking special driver update or they crash on the first fucking level of the original story! and no firefight?! FUCK OFF!! YOU DARE CHARGE $60 FOR THIS GLORIFIED FAN MOD? I’VE PLAYED BETTER CE OVERHAULS AND ENTIRELY NEW CUSTOM CAMPAIGNS FOR HALO 1 ON STEAM WORKSHOP FOR GOD’S SAKE!!!halo’s fucking dead dude.
>Halo fans when 343, a studio comprised solely of people who hate Halo and hate Bungie, shoehorned in a scene where Chief gets talked down to by a woman
Do girlbosses have men in their lives or are they destined to go full lesbo?
>>744577258>halo’s fucking dead dude.Just let 343 have one more swing at the ball, sure it's been 15 years without a single success but this time for sure
>>744577412they end up with the cuckChad. the cuckChad is a fictional character that is chad in every aspect of his life but suddenly is a subservient bitch to the mary sue girlboss.
>>744577451>shakes diceC’MONNN DADDY NEED SOME NEW SHOES BABY, CMON!im so damn tired, boss
What if instead of an ugly bitch marine it was.... a soft and delicate UNSC analyst who discovered a crucial piece of Covenant data and Chief must absolutely rescue her and retrieve it
If I was the lead on a Halo remake, I would have talked to the devs that made it happen originally so I wouldn't fuck it up. I feel like this is the minimum I would do
>>744577542This might work if Cortana keeps subtly trying to kill her
>>744577542this cute retard would get herself chopped in half by the first elite she encounters
>>744573398People are too busy pointing out the faggotry in this game and not the true kike nature of it. You have the left and right adjacent players arguing over political shit rather than pointing out the true anti-consumer practice of the game. That is releasing it without it's best feature, the multiplayer, for full price.Last of Us 2 got away with this as well for similar reasons, the multiplayer was the best part of the first game, or at least, a reason to keep playing after you beat it.There's a clear lack of effort thats been going into these big budget western AAA releases lately, gay political agenda shit aside. Funnily enough the political shit flinging is the only reason western games and movies are still alive because if these games didn't have that stuff, people would more likely notice how bad things have become.
>>744575031it's infuriating the lengths 343 just to contrive a scene where Master Chief gets put down by a woman like that's the ONE time they pull from the lore of the series and it's just for a humiliation ritual
>>744577639The lack of multiplayer is getting blasted even by the goyim who enjoy the game
>>744577639>because if these games didn't have that stuff, people would more likely notice how bad things have become.People already discuss this but everyone just accepts that it's true so it isnt brought up as much as something that's actually divisive. It's tough to have discussions when there's no counter argument other than "yeah that sucks I agree"
>>744577639literally, not even Firefight on a few notable maps from the story? like seriously… whats the fucking replay value for new players? old players? remix mode and skulls? dont make me laugh
>>744573398How come no one has a problem with the Al-generated assets in this game? Is it only indie devs that get the heat?
>>744576292Buy an a-…Okay he’s based
>>744577757>no counter argument other than "yeah that sucks I agree"then desu there is no argument. a huge majority just agreeing that it’s shit and low effort
>>744573845That's a man.
>>744576948>boomers still seething over a retcon of a 25 year old bookIn the novel the planet gets glassed in like a day. In the game, it's goes on for a month with some of the best moments we've seen in Halo. Halo Reach is infinitely better at portraying themes of hope, sacrifice and humanity's desperation. Very tired of uncs parroting old = good every single time
>>744573398She's not a fucking ODST you baiting retard
>>744578076You're a goy who probably clapped your fat flippers at the peak cringe of Tip of the Spear
Would be kino if they adapted this scene"Bring us closer to the Pelican," he said. "Right on top. Giveme a hard dock on its top access hatch."Cortana set her hands on her hips and frowned. "Readjustingburn parameters. But you know a linked-ship configuration dur-ing an orbital burn is not stable.""We won't be linked long," he said and slipped out of his har-ness. He drifted aft, pulled himself down to the floor and openedthe Longsword's access hatch. Green lights on the interveningpressure door winked on in succession. He removed the safetiesand popped the seal.A hand reached up from the other side. John pulled the personthrough.The shock only lasted a moment. John's reflexes kicked in—he grabbed a handful of the man's uniform, kicked the hatch shut,and propelled both of them against the hull. With alightning-quick motion, he drew the newcomer's pistol andaimed it squarely at the man's forehead."You were dead," the Chief said. "I saw you die. On Jenkins'smission record. The Flood got you."The black man smiled a set of perfect white teeth. "TheFlood? Hell, Chief, it'll take more than that pack of walkingalien horror-show freaks to take out Sergeant A. J. Johnson."The Master Chief held on to the ship's frame with one hand sohe wouldn't float away in zero gee. With the other hand hepressed the pistol deeper into Johnson's forehead.The Sergeant's smile faded, but there was not a trace of fear inhis dark eyes. He snorted a laugh. "I get it: You think I'm in-fected. Well, I'm not. This"—he patted his chest—"is one hun-dred percent grade-A Marine... and nothin' else."The Chief eased his stance but didn't lower the gun. "Explainhow that's possible."
nobody bitched when Cortana called Chief a barbarian
>>744575723>reee why do you caaaaaareThe writers and devs cared enough to fabricate a completely new character
>>744573398Good job, you filtered the Chuds at the small cost of the franchise and your workplace,. Amazing
>>744578138Johnson recognises her company as being from the 92nd Shock Troops Battalion and brings up the service rivalry between Helljumpers and Spartans, at least watch the cutscene on youtube or something if you're not going to give microslop your shekels
>>744578176but people are bitching the cortana now looks like jerma
>>744573398>ODST-Spartan rivalry has been established Halo lore since The Fall of Reach and The Flood novels>343i managed to filter the tourists by just sticking to canon for once in their careersThe irony, the war has been going on for 20 years, there's no way in hell that the ODSTs see the Spartans as propaganda.
>We stick to canon when it means ugly dykes cunts on your screen!Tell it to someone willing to buy your wokie tripe
>>744574446I sincerely doubt anybody would have cared if Williams had been a 60 year old cigar chomping Big Boss.
>>744573398>Breaks lore all over the place, totally okay with it>It's a total cohencidence that lore is 100% adhered to when it serves leftist humiliation rituals though! Don't think about it goys!
>>744578291okay i'm slightly misinformed then, but this proves at least that i didn't pay for this slop
>>744578176Old Cortana's line delivery sounded like a friendly joke. The new one is more condescending and it doesn't help that the new cutscene feels interminably long with all kinds of useless flashy cgi bullshit added to it.
>>744578341they are literally ONI propaganda, where do you think the whole "list all killed SPARTANs as MIA" directive came from plus with the way slipspace works many of them probably spent half that time in cryosleep
>>744573398> the booksHonestly Halo is borderline Star Wars tier for retarded EU
>>744578176In context Chief just tried using a fucking moon sized installation as, well, a cudgel.Chief is sort of a retard, he's basically an obedient big green lapdog you point towards your enemies and he smashes them to death.Cortana is entirely correct in calling the 7 foot fridge of a man a barbarian.
>>744578154>nooo you can't just show the UNSC actually doing stuff Unironically explain why a drawn out battle where the UNSC gives everything to defend it's most important planet after Earth is 'lamer and gayer' than just getting nuked from orbit in 24 hours and its over. Halo boomers genuinely think the series is just the Master Chief show and if you depict anything other than total one sided annihilation of humanity when he's not around its reddit or something
>>744576224>>744576372Why are ODSTs walking around in T shirts and shit that looks like it came out of madmax 2
>>744578176cortana was the brains of the whole operation
>>744578514These days yes but not so much in the Bungie era, you even had Staten write Contact Harvest to depict how the war started
>>744578341The vast majority of UNSC troops have never seen a Spartan in their lives, but they sure as hell have seen the media releases showing them. Of course the more cynical ones wouldn't buy into the hype until they witness that shit for themselves.
>>744573398I will wager that the niggerfaggots at 343 probably did not read either of those books. If they did, they would have made a set of bonus missions that follow the POV of the ODSTs and Marines that set up alpha base during Halo CE.
>>744578526Nigger the super duper hidden invisible Covenant super carrier just hanging out on Reach for a prolonged period of time and the UNSC at REACH being away on a "training exercise" is plain dogshit writing. A cringe ass warthog cavalry charge in a giant DBZ desert is just adding insult to injury. I'm sorry you shed blubbery tears whenever your favorite Spartan Ninja Turtle died a humiliating death and a shittier rendition of Rue and Woe played but Reach is carried more by setpieces than a Snoy movie game in many cases than an actual compelling campaign.
>>744578509>>744578694Spartans and ODSTs have worked side-by-side for 20 years.
>>744578775There's a lot of ODSTs out there and their attrition rate is, by nature, pretty bad. How many dudes who worked with Spartans in the field have actually lived to tell?
>>744578163i feel like even in the books the chief johnson didnt banter as much as they did in the campaign devolved prequel missions. it feels so out of character even if you only ever played the other games (like me). i was actually waiting on a “*gulp* erhm, he’s right behind me, isn’t he?” moment with a invisible elite
>>744578775Nigga there are like a couple of dozen SPARTAN-IIs left alive and a shitzillion human planets out there, 99% of marines have never been in the same system as a SPARTAN let alone met one
>og halo 1 cortana: Analysing… this ring isn’t a natural creation… interesting.>demake cortana: UGUU~ HAI CHEIF DIS RING IS MADE BY ALIUMS TEEHEE LOOK OUT FOR INVISIBLE ELITES I’LL MARK EM ON YOUR HUD <3>halo infinite Weapon: i do NOT sound like that!
>>744578542From what I understand they were POWs.
I should get around to finally playing these games I guess. Is the Master Chief Collection good? With old grafix of course
isn't the first thing Dr Halsey does when meeting Noble Team to bitch at them (except Jorge) and make veiled threats? Nobody called it a humiliation ritual then
>>744573845get the Lord's name out of your ass parasite infested mouth, faggot
>>744579789I really hated that cunt, Jun should have sniped the bitch.
>>744575751>just make a new gamethey're not competent enough for that. everything they conjure up from scratch flops spectacularly
>>744573398The basis of the rivalry is that ODSTs were the poster-boys of the UNSC for the decades-long civil war, then got shelved, shafted, and cucked when Spartans made them redundant.The conflict isn't>hurr durr built soldiers vs born soldiersAll soldiers are built you fucking mongoloid.
>>744575723What purpose did it serve to include it?
>>744576151You'll be hard pressed to find anyone anywhere that has
>>744580048Because 343 can't write Halo to save their asses without having human conflict drama of some kind in it.
>>744573398>Novels Lol you expect people to read shit?
>>744576151I have it's fucking dogshit. Did a Heroic + Legendary Remix run. It sucks hot ass. Literally uninstalled it and played through Ruby's Rebalanced on MCC right after to cleanse my palate.
>>744575135>>744575470I don't think that person can be here without getting hypertriggered. I bet it's a beta orbiter.
>>744575751They don't have enough skilled developers for a new game, so they do a remake to train their team.
>>744580208>human conflict dramamore like some shitty writer's thinly veiled grievances with the MC, been noticing this trend with western slop lately
>>744575723They spent money, had multiple drafts, had managment, hired va, did mocap, for this scene. Who's responsible?I think MS is better off without the person deciding to put this in here.
>>744576217>sheYou sure?
>>744579560and they're STILL acting like this? Fucking hell. This is worse than when the Melissa Sheboons were in charge.
>SPARTANs are autistic kidnapped brainwashed children chosen for their ubermensch genes>each one costs as much as two starships and they were made to secretly murder colonists that had wrongthink>directly owned by the space CIA, everything about them is a cover up>they just happen to be almost equal with the religious alien invader hypersoldiers >ODSTs are the super marines that went through badass school>as soon as the SPARTANs got augmented a group of ODSTs decided to bully one and he accidently killed 3 of them before anybody knew what was happening>nobody is allowed to talk about this eventIts not hard to write their one-way rivalry, but just putting a girlboss ODST in the story isn't enough.
>>744573398>Game adds about 2 hours of original content>They're filled with shit like this
>>744579789And Noble 1 shuts her the fuck up
They deliberately wrote and added this character to the game. They made her an ugly woman who insults Chief for no reason. It is clear the people working on the game do not like Halo.
>>744574446Kinda funny how most of the MG timeline was kicked off over two old guys fighting about how to honour their dead pseudowifemom's wishes.
>>744580562MS clearly did not fire enough people.
>>744579789Dr Halsey is bitching at the thought that somebody would spread her eugenicist program to random ass orphans
>>744579789She is arguably the single-most important character in the canon but also her giant ego and god complex are treated as character flaws and she is consistently portrayed as a massive cunt because of it. Also like the other anon said, Carter basically tells her she has no power over him.
>>744580659
Someone post the Elite busting a move.
>>744577016its funny how tourists revisionism created this image as a fact when at the time we were laughing at QUAKERfags and DOOMtards for shitting fps and dumbing it down from Wolfenstein
>>744573398I am just trying to imagine the thought process behind this lol. You're remaking a game and you're like "Okay, they gave us permission to make a few original levels, lets make sure to put a character this deliberately controversial into them"...Why? Was there no higher up who was like "Why are we spending MONEY on creating a deliberately inflammatory character for our nostaliga-fest that is supposed to give people the warm feelies member berries?"
>>744580757Venom and Solid were truly the only based ones.
>>744573845Why does she look like a slightly less ugly version of that Last of Us 2 girl?
>>744573845two too many
>>744580264i’ve been hearing this a lot and i’m the same! i have mcc on steam and just started replaying og halo 1 instead. guess im gonna end up playing 2, 3, and ODST too. might even give reach another playthrough, fuck it
>>744573398Lore outside a game is supposed to be supplementary, not required you fucking faggot. 343i still being retarded by creating a character whose problem with Chief is completely unknown to most players and thus comes off as an unreasonably abrasive cunt. She could have been a better character if they actually expanded on the resentment between ODST/Spartans, but that would require competent writing and greater effort.
>>744573398They could have made a male character for this role, but no, they had to create an insufferable cunt to fill this characters shoes because they're obsessed with gender representation.
>>744576575Why is it trying to force me to create an account just to turn on the sound?
>>744575373Wouldn't even be the first time a large, organised campaign to sway public opinion on 4chan has been run totally for free by ideologically captured useful idiots. A Russian one got unearthed when the war started, and there at least used to be one on the port board dedicated solely to certain marmite stuff under the same fundamentally faulty assumption that underpins then all: The idea that repeated exposure to something people don't like will somehow make them like it.I wonder if they're the same people spamming meaningless nothing threads of girl from game, engagement bait question that just fucking infest this place. Maybe they can claim every post in one as proof of how effective they are at dealing the discourse or something?
>zero genderedness in her anti Spartan butthurt that she gives up within like 10 minutes after MC babysits the entire squad for a mission>schizos hallucinate an anti male agenda anyway
>>744573845
>>744573687many such cases>these two branches of the space military have some abrasion>"so let's have a stronk women treat chief (the player character) like shit and belittle her men for admiring him, that'll get that message across"so fucking painful. it's like the YIIK guy claiming his unlikable characters were art and the audience was wrong for not wanting to endure their unlikable dialogue for hours. unreal how he compared his shit game to TWEWY
>>744575723why the fuck is a lieutenant saluting a sergeant
>>744574465>okay pick a book to do a report on>meathead retard: "okay i pick VIDEO GAME BOOK"i just did not want to be associated with that kind of person. I avoided all vidya books and read wheel of time and michael crichton novels in grade school
>>744576151>nobody in this thread has eaten shit, and therefore has no right to decide whether or not shit tastes like shit
>>744573845incels do be malding
>>744573398>there's an in-lore reason so it's 100% okay!!This is such faggoty disingenuous bad faith leftist bullshit. The writers CREATED an excuse to have an ugly girlboss demean the male hero. It doesn't matter that the text is interservice rivalry; the real-world feminist subtext is obvious. Imagine if someone made a completely justified story reason for why the main white hero has to watch his wife get blacked. You'd say "BUT THERE'S A PERFECTLY LEGITIMATE REASON FOR THIS!! DIDN'T YOU PAY ATTENTION TO THE STORY??"
>>744573398Lmao a girl boss and her normie squad think they're better than a spartan
>>744574150>williams praises johnson, but gives MC shit for being a spartan>johnson was literally in the spartan program before john
>>744583843>the real-world feminist subtext is obvious>b-because it just IS, okay??!
>>744583960>the past 9 years of girlbosses emasculating males in media never happened, chuddy. Take your meds
>>744573398Did they HAVE to do the smug eyebrow?
This shit is the exact same arc that the Arbiter went through with the Shipmaster guy just with a woman instead
>>744583843Instead of weirdo sex stuff, it is more like imagine a world where the protagonist comes home and beats the shit out of his wife. Then later on it is revealed that his wife is actually an alien from dimension X who wanted to invade the planet so he saved the day. You can 'justify' it all you want, but the scene in the game is a guy beating the shit out of his crying wife. Just as with this, they added a character who was deliberately controversial and aggressive towards Chief for no reason.
>>744584101The title of Arbiter is literally a pariah. It's like being on the sex offender registry. Spartans fucking saved humanity
>>744584029Point to where at any point in the actual mission the Chief conceded even a single point to her instead of just treating her like a crying baby who doesn't even dignify a serious response while he got on with the job. Some emasculation.
>>744584164spartans haven't saved shit yet at that stage, the war has just been an endless string of human losses and pyrrhic victories until halo 1 happened
From a business perspective, I do not understand this decision.
>>744583663>I just enjoy wasting hours of my life telling others how bad shit tastes, even if I’ve never actually tried it.
>>744584163I think my analogy, while crass, is more appropriate since it ties back into the overarching agenda of deliberately being subversive by using minorities to emasculate the white male lead, but I'm not gonna be pedantic
>>744584170I can at least agree that Chief's graceful "lol ok retard" reaction is surprisingly based and does in fact imply that the writers were writing Williams's behavior as an in-universe character flaw rather than typical girlboss bullshit (same with Chief's reaction to Palmer's girlbossery in Halo 4), but still, it's fucking grating to watch and you just know the writers loved writing that shit
>>744584245shareholders and investors love DEI/ESG/BRIDGE shekels and the diversity hires love to ruin vidya
This is just in the prequel levels, correct? They didn't insert any of this in the regular campaign? The prequel levels are unnecessary and stupid anyway, because when you awaken in the regular campaign Chief is treated like more of a legend who's been away for a long time. Anyway, if it's just in the extra levels it's easily skipped and ignored. Still dumb, though. It's just another piece of evidence that the people working on current year Halo games don't like their main character. And if that's the case, just make a Halo game set in the far future where Chief is gone. Or better yet, just don't work on Halo games at all.
>>744584717I honestly wouldn't mind if they stopped using Chief entirely and just went back to a Noble Six situation
>>744584878I mean if all they're gonna do is shit on him and continue diminishing any value he has as a company mascot, I agree.
>>744584717They changed some of the dialogue in the later missions, but nothing like this. The real issue is performances. Everyone does a pretty bad job.
>>744584717>They didn't insert any of this in the regular campaignSort of. They changed the delivery of a lot of lines and some of it comes off as condescending towards John Halo but it's hard to tell whether that's incompetence or malice. The two could even be the same with 343.
>>744575779Why are you so sure that is the actual reason instead of this just showcasing a detail from the lore?
>>744576562They still call you that, but it sounds more like the desperate squealing of a dying animal than a smug condemnation from someone in a position of authority when they do it now
>>744573398>Retardmaxxing.txtoke fag, you want to stick to official canon from the books? sure, why does the master chief have shields in the three prequel missions? the Mark IV armor he wears doesnt have shields(Ghosts of Onyx,Fall of Reach) did you played the three bonus missions with the no-shields skull turned on for dat lore-accurate experience? Mark V armor is the first Spartan Armor that comes with Shields and isnt in use until Reach and CE(Bungies Official Halo Combat Evolved Lore Nexus)where is Spartan Linda? (Halo Combat Evolved Lore Nexus and Halo:Noldecrux, fires of liberation,the limited-released E-Book where 343 pulls its plot for the three bonus missions from)why is the second player a male spartan?
>>744576562>general sentiment take this turnBut it didn't. Most people still support woke and leftist stuff.
>>744576224>>744578542That's just standard issue olive drab t-shirts. What marines and soldiers wear IRL when they're not in battle dress.
>>744573845>appeal to triviality
>>744588967>>744576224>>744578542It's apart of the battle dress. There's the t-shirt, then the jacket on top of that, and then the carrier vest on top of that. The non-battle dress (i.e. "PTs") have a different shirt
>>744588826This. When Gavin Newsome or Kamala Harris gets elected President in 2028, expect woke repression and cancellation to return full force.
>>744579560Worse, they're kept in a holodeck nature preserve area that looks like New Mexico and hunted for sport https://youtu.be/2xY7MWwx3Co?t=422
>>744589123What does the PT shirts look like in-universe?
>>744589250Idk probably black t-shirts and shorts that say "UNSC" on them
>>744576372>"""veteran halo dev""">only worked on 3 and Reach
>>744579721MCC's fine. There are some bugs, but they're mostly (from my experience) found in co-op, so you should be fine. Get the whole collection whenever it goes on one of its typical huge sales. Start with Combat Evolved instead of going the prequel route and starting with Reach. Reach is a good time, but markedly different from 1-3. ODST is interesting. 4 is shit.
>>744573398Time and place pseud. These ODSTs were nearly raped to death, don't even have their armor, and are dropping smug quips to neg master chief
>its not a big dealthen why change it lmao.
The minority crew
>>744578734>umm this isn't realistic enough it's sci fi nigger. I'm sure the covenant could make a big ship undetectable if they wanted to. and the cavalry charge is cool, going off this same logic there would never be any ground battles ever because they don't 'need to'. Same retards will call CE a compelling masterpiece when its 4 levels played forwards and backwards
>>744589394Ah, makes sense, thanks.
>>744573398idc about her being skeptical of Master Chief, I care that she calls herself a badass.
>>744573398Why do ODSTs hate them? ODSTs got supplanted as the most elite troops, sure, but that generates at most just some petty jealousy not outright hostility, and they should be disciplined and big enough to keep that to themselves especially in a combat situation. Instead, she shat on a master chief in front of a sergeant major.The only ODST I can remember being outright hostile in the books is Silva, and his grudge at least made sense since John accidentally killed his men decades ago, back when John was recovering from augmentations.
>>744576151Yeah. Tho, this is also my first post itt.
>>744573583It will never go away. The activists are way too deeply entrenched in the entire entertainment industry and they're getting shitloads of taxpayer and investment firm money to spread propaganda. They will at best chill out slightly for a couple years. This dyke only says a couple retarded snide comments your male character just has to take silently. A few years ago it would have been half the game. Progress!
>>744591974John killing those guys is the only reason ODSTs hate SPARTANs. And the hatred spread through the entire branch.
>>744575723You’re a subhuman that has to defend garbage on an anonymous forum because you have nothing else to do with your life. You do not enjoy anything and just languish in some shitcord waiting for the moment when you can do more damage control. Killing yourself would be a net positive on all of society.
>>744578542Retard they are POWs who were being fucked hunted like animals in an artificial testing lab.
>>744573398imagine actually caring for gaylo KEK
>>744573398>books biggest mistake bungi ever made with gaylo
>>744595965literally. i follow a bunch of halo youtubers and they all go MUH BOOKS. nigger. the ONLY real canon is original halo 1-3(+ODST) and the fall of reach book, maybe contact harvest for sgt johnson’s back story. rest is microshart 343 fan canon. i will not accept anything else
That's a good theory, however, I still won't buy it.
>>744573693>Fuck off faggot, this supposed rivalry was actually the delusions of some schizo odst that was a villain in the bookshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyWaeoRr77U
>>744573687This happens so often I'm starting to think they might actually be retarded and really DON'T understand.
>>744576575
>exactly ONE (1) fight between a Spartan and some ODSTS>this event was COVERED UP>somehow this means there is a rivalry between all ODSTS and SpartansOnly an absolute pseud could come to this conclusion and then defend it without a hint of irony.You don't hate lorefags enough. You aren't bullying lorefags enough. You aren't publicly humiliating lorefags enough.
>>744573845It's only TWO drops of shit in your glass of milk, why do you even care chuddie, just drink it.
>>744580785ALL of the writing 343 has inserted into the game is just bad. That's the secret. This probably isn't trying to be deliberately inflammatory, they just have very little artistic capability and it makes everything they do suck. Look at literally ANY of the new cutscenes >Johnson constantly mugs the camera like he really is played by Steve Harvey>the sound mixing is awful and guns often don't sound like they do in-game >the choreography for fights is below hobby Youtube tier >abysmal, likely completely raw mocap on everything Some schmuck on the writer's team just wanted a bad bitch in his Halo game but they fucked the script up so she's just a run of the mill cunt.
>>744595965lol noHalo has the only good extended book canon out of any franchise, ever.
>>744573398>noooo muh book lore pls buy muh slop reeeeee!!!!Nope, still ain't playing it
>>744580785>>744600889A direct quote from 343 faggots: "we hired people who hate halo". They did it on purpose. They have had control of the franchise for longer than Bungie did (RIP, the real bungie died during destiny 1's dev hell). And they have never made a good game.They have pushed some impressively hostile MTX shit, and that's their only success. The corporate overlords value that over quality of product so they continue to exist. Look at how many cattle actually PAID TWENTY DOLLARS just to play the game five days early. Pathetic.
>>744573845Two sentences to many
>>744576151And never will
>>744576530Enjoy repeating the cycle until nothing left to enjoy
>>744576224El Atrocidad de las Americas
>>744575723Wow, that's a lot of text 'm not going to read.Hey, you know what would be even better?If the manfaced bulldyke didn't exist as a character at all.
>>744583680Obsessed lmao
They could have done something with Kelly or Linda, instead they insist on making more woke bullshit.
nyigger. bump
>>744584248Faggot lmao
>retarded culture war bait thread>>744573687>/pol/ immediately pounces on it and references the retarded tweet they've all collectively chosen to use as an excuse to never ever debate or discuss anything with anyone that disagrees with them on anything>>744576575>cue some off topic twitter link about culture war slop>>744574647>and some actual fragile snowflake getting offended by some random bitch in a halo remakeMoot should have never restored /pol/.
>>744573398The rivalry was one nigga being mad that his men were used as fodder by some ONI spook to test the capabilities of a newly augmented, unarmed, and unarmored Spartan against live human targets (which got covered up by ONI and shouldn't be common knowledge every single ODST knows about)Every other instance of ODSTs interacting with Spartans especially in the actual games has been positive or at worst professionally neutral Also a lieutenant being a giga cunt to the most senior of NCOs for no reason beyond pettiness is retarded and likey career ruining
>>744589472Retard
>>744604906Fucking seethe lol
>>744573845>Create a problem>Say its not a problem because its not significant enough>Refuses to fix the problem and actively defends it despite it not being significant enoughHmm where have I seen this before...
>>744573398>this character trait technically exists, so let's use that as an excuse to make an extremely obnoxious character that makes no sense in the context of the setting, our retard devotees will be sure to defend it like good little goysat best it is flanderization garbage that "the fans" should not be defending
>>744573398>Reach has fallen>but I gotta care about this fake rivalry
Lord Almighty, Steve Downes is 76 years old, you could hear it in his delivery in Campaign Evolved. Halo has potential for so many different stories as made evident in Halo 2, Reach, and ODST. I get they are probably dead scared due to 5 being so hated but the problem with that could be easily explained by false advertising, bad writing, and the "modern audience" chase. You can't seriously think we could keep dragging MC's carcass through every single adventure, the fatigue is setting in and the man isn't getting any younger.
>>744573398>uh the rivarly exists in the bookswhich they promised to stop doing (which is the entire reason they refused to make said prequel missions about what Chief was doing on Reach during its fall despite it making far more sense), and even in said books said rivarly is far far less severe that the prequel missions suggested so not only did they go back on their promise but they also got said books wrong as well
>>744605520Didn't he say a while ago that he was going to retire after Halo 6? Surely he doesn't need the money anymore
>>744573398>ODST don't like spartans so le epic girl boss>*game bombs*
>>744579996also the built vs born soldier line gets more retarded when you remember the spartans being abducted as kids was and still is extremely classified with only a select few outside the program and higher ups knowing about it, in other words to her chief would have just been like any other soldier just with more training, gear, and augs
Why is everyone so hung up on this bitch? She barely does anything then dies. A bigger issue is that the new levels are filled with shitty arenas where they throw loads of enemies at you with hardly any cover around. And the new brutes suck ass to fight. On heroic they can tank point blank shotgun blasts and energy sword hits without even staggering.
>>744605586He might have, but MS needs thier mascots so push units. Just like E-Day going back to early days of Gears
>>744573398Whatever, even if this lore is true, now is not the time to bring it back up since it's a touchy subject.
>>744583949no one knows of the SPARTAN-I project outside of ONI. it's simply not a "thing" anyone would know
>>744606059Because it's post-2016 4chan and filled with retarded election tourists and thirdies who don't actually play games and only care about whatever nontroversy they can get offended by.
>>744589472Retard.
>>744606719Bitch more lmao
>>744605586>>744606249They're probably gonna kill off master chief in H6 if it ever happens, wouldn't be surprised if he's replaced by some ugly turbodyke by the end.
>>744607525Fuck meant H7, H6 was shitfinite.
>novels
>>744576151bring back the og devs and I will
>>744573398Why is a marine LT (aka an O-1 butter bar) disrespecting an E-9 with more years of experience serving than she was alive?
>>744604674
>>744608890While they are in the middle of an enemy ship and in an active battlefield while she was a prisoner of war and needed rescue.Very, very stupid writing no matter how much the shills try to spin it as ODST rivalry
Does Cortana call me Studmuffin in this one?
>>744573845ever heard of zero tolerance policies? well that is what normal people are operating under for this after decades of girlboss shit.
Why couldn't they at least give her a fat ass?
>>744604906damn, didn't realize just talking about it now is enough to send lefty fags into a meltdown seethe.
>>744609952It is haram!
>>744604949>>744606885>"""""""veteran halo dev"""""""">only worked on 3 and Reach
>>744573398>xbox's flagship franchise sold like avowed to support this>they burned it all down to shove a angry dyke down your throatsare all the bean counters locked in the basement?
I've noticed this before, where they'll be some woman with a gripe against the main character. And she'll talk all this shit. But the main character will just stand there and say nothing at all. Chief among these examples is TLOU2 with Ellie.Furthermore, what is this dumb bitch talking about propaganda? She mentions it twice and does not elaborate. Spartans put planets to heel, that's not propaganda, that's what they did. You can't really cover that up so she wouldn't know about it.It's dogshit writing with a dogshit ugly character, she might be an lt because 343 said so, but Chief is still an E-9 with far greater connections than she has.
>>744610251Fag lol
>>744578694And when they finally see one in action they should be awe struck, not casually saying "eh, you're not so bad"It's a god damn super soldier
Humans are Forerunners.
>>744610593>giant monster man saves you like a damselno woman would be able to resist, but all women are written like trannies with chips on their shoulders, so it makes sense when you think of it like that.
>>744611035>no woman would be able to resistI'm a man and I wouldn't be able to resist
>>744611120Ass we can!
>>744610593It's a huge 7-foot man wearing 705 pounds of armor, wearing a cutting edge energy shield, runs faster than anything you've seen on two legs, can flip tanks, and is capable of throwing whole ass vehicles at ayylmaos>Eh. Sure, okay, you're not so badMake this writing make sense. This shit is clearly written by people who don't think Halo is cool to begin with, so no wonder it's turned out shit for 343's entire tenure.
>>744611475>halo 3Spartan walks by marines and the effect on them is so strong one of them says "were gonna make it">nu-haloSpartans come to the rescue of captured marines. They call him lame and complain about propaganda
>>744606719>touristsays the libtard tourist
>>744573845so it okays for a character to scream NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER if its only 1 sentence in the entire game?
>>744573986They took their orders from America though
>>744614853Oh, so NOW China listens to America? Only when it's convenient to insert retarded identity politics?
>>744615108If it's 'do what we say or don't get paid' I'm guessing they usually listen
play 3 and reach multiplayer you don't need anything else
>>744605520At this point I don't care who they replace him with, I just want Steve to retire for his own good.
>>744573398ODST and spartan hate has been a thing for years, but that doesn't give shitty DEI writers at 343 an excuse to shove in an unlikeable character into their bonus levels. Most halo fans, even the few still buying the new games, do not give a shit about extended lore. Pandering to the books has always made 343's stories worse - less engaging, more confusing, filled with boring exposition dumps by non characters.Bungie took the literal opposite approach and ignored the books when making their games. There wasn't a single negative interaction between ODST and spartans in any of their stories. They never had retarded drama like that.
>>744578694The difference is only a retard thinks soldiers let alone officers would talk that way, especially considering it’s the equivalent of soldiers coming across each other in their homeland as a foreign power is occupying a large portion of their land, has been kicking the their ass and is on the cusp of invading the capital and ending the war resulting in their genocide. At MOST it would be a sardonic remark or two. They made ODST seem like complete retards when they’re supposed to be the best humanity has to offer before the shift to a complete war economy and militarization of the population up to and including conscripting children and genetically modifying them. If an ODST has a problem with Spartans they would have a problem with the ethics of ONI, not a Spartan who is effectively a piece of biological equipment.
Being required to read books to understand 343 """lore""" is fucking retarded when that lore is just full of the plot threads 343 abandoned between each of the abortions they called Halo games.Also fuck them in particular for killing Rookie off in one of their books.
>>744616902>hmm the self insert player character that doesn't say a word and hasn't taken his helmet off yet >yeah lets kill him off in a book ludicrous levels of subversion garbage. 343 millennials should be all be roped for being trannies and bugmen
