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Doom before
>thousands of monsters attacking you from all sides
>MC running around 10000 miles per hour shooting at everything with his GUNS
Doom now:
>1-2 monsters on an arena
>MC walking like he's disabled
>No guns because guns are like evil or something and are used by nazis
>Have to block damage like a cuck

What happened?

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>the future of memes is AIslop
>nobody makes OCs anymore

>>744574297
but at least those leftists have been le owned am i rite

>>744574242
>>thousands of monsters attacking you from all sides
not even TNT hit a thousand, the highest a single map ever had of official releases prior to something like, say, legacy of rust, was 332 pre-pain elementals. and you sure as hell weren't fighting them all at once. it's like everyone conflates modded doom and slaughtermaps with "this is how it always was". doom isn't fuckin painkiller or serious sam, folks.

>>744574372
>it's like everyone conflates modded doom and slaughtermaps with "this is how it always was".
Are you me? I was thinking the exact same thing after reading that post.

>>744574372
>What is "hyperbole"?

None, I have taste

>>744574432
It's retarded is because co tradicts the point he's trying to make. kys

>>744574126
2016, and I'm glad I waited until it was 75% off. It was fun, but I'd rather play a Doom 2 wad/mod

>>744574126
They're all great

2016 for soul
Eternal / 2016 Arcade are about equal to me for gameplay

>>744574126
everything went wrong when they started with that whole marvel "sentinels" shit

>>744574242
I liked 2016. I am no doom expert, but 2016 really impressed me. I dont care about the next games.

I beat Eternal recently and thought it was amazing.

Quickly jumped over to Dark Ages and I genuinely can't beleive how much of a massive downgrade it is in literally every factor. Cheap presentation, multiplayer gutted, awful quality textures probably due to increased performance requirements from the mandatory ray tracing, ray tracing looks like absolute shit and the entire game is covered in darkness and you can't see shit. It's Doom 3 tier. Ugly weapon designs and arsenal that doesn't feel as impactful due to less functionality, gameplay loop revoking around blocking and parrying is fuckng terrible, gimped and removed dashing worse mobility, SHIT fucking music, significantly less content.

It's actually kind of shocking. Did the entire Eternal team leave the company or something? Was Dark Ages made by pajeet outsourcing H1B1 hires or something? How the fuck did it have such an insane drop off in quality?

I'd rather have a straight metal soundtrack playing than dramatic cinematic music that ramps up before boss battles spoiling the suspense

>>744574126
Literally only played the first one. Thought it was great. But it's like 100gb so the second I beat it and got all the trophies I deleted it to make space. And since my internet is so bad it takes too long to download so I'll probably never touch it again.

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>>744574242
dark ages in general has more enemies per major encounter at once than most of classic doom
the fact that you're able to explode half of them with singular button presses is a bit weird though

ban AI across the entire site already.

Eternal but I think 2016 had better writing and presentation.
They should have made Quake instead of DA.

>>744574126
Eternal had the best gameplay

>>744575064
Are you really including the 20 enemies that literally stand there and do nothing in this total? Or the lines of shield guys that also just stand there bunched up doing nothing other than "kill us all at once with your super cool shield".

Take those guys out and the generic mook ammo/health fodder and it's probably the same number actually

I delayed playing Eternal because I heard the ammo system was cringe, but I played it last year and loved it. I think it was mostly just casuals/redditors crying about ammo because I had no issues with it. The movement was also very satisfying, so much so, that I could not go back and play/enjoy 2016 after playing Eternal. Have not played Dark Ages yet.

Kill poojeets.

>>744574126
Eternal > Dark Ages > 2016
Eternal is a very special masterpiece of a game, Dark Ages is an amazing game, 2016 is a great game and excellent reboot.
Collectively they saved modern SP FPS games.
I kind of thought single player FPS was dead until Eternal came out, didn't think something could exist that would ever innovate and feel novel again in the genre.
Meanwhile 2016 was just a great return to form and a reminder to developers that not every FPS campaign has to be a COD clone.

This is the best take there is, if you disagree you're wrong and a retard.

>>744574242
none of these things are true

>>744575874
Also the correct way to play TDA is Nightmare 150 speed, that's the meta, most of /v/ wouldn't be able to hang there. Anybody who's calling it slow is a tard.

>>744574242
All of these things are true

>>744574242
Some of these things are true.

They're all trash

>>744576604
Contrarianposter trying to bandwagon after one shitty game completely ignoring how well received 2016 and eternal were by all

>>744574126
2016, all I wanted for it was bigger kill boxes and more movement tools
Eternal gave me that, but took any fun out of glory kills

>>744574126
Doom the dark agers and its DLC.
Eternal is close but overall Dark ages is more fun

>>744574126
Doom eternal is fun but the weapon swapping is a pain in the ass on controller. I wish i wasn‘t a consolefag growing up

>>744574126
I don't like FPS games, I want to see my character

>>744574297
You said the same about wojaks. You deserve this

>>744574126
Dark Ages

>>744579145
Enough sharty

>>744574126
>doom 2016
>spiky armor
>clearly earth, not mars
fuck off

>>744574126

1st: DOOM 93
2nd: DOOM Eternal TAG 1&2
3rd: DOOM Dark Ages Revelations
4th: DOOM Eternal
5th: DOOM 2
6th: DOOM TNT/Plutonia
7th: DOOM 64
8th: DOOM (2016)
9th: DOOM The Dark Ages
10th: DOOM 3

I still fucking hate the "Suleya" plot of the new games.

>>744574242
Dark Ages has tons of enemies now.

>>744579830
It’s AI slop. What did you expect ?

Eternal, especially TAG1. Best levels I've ever played of any shooter.

>>744574126
Reelism gold. It's not even a contest or debate.

>>744581128
He said Nu-Doom.

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>>744574297
literally a thousand times better than wojaks and frogs, good riddance

>>744582137
They’re objectively worse.

>>744582298
ok frogposter nobody fucking cares about your opinion

>>744578580
I put the 4 heaviest weapons to the dpad.
Up Double shotty, right chaingun, down ballista, left rocket launcher.

And then the 4 "lighter" weapons you simply flick weapon wheel+up/right/down and that gets you shotgun/machine gun/plasma really fast.

Takes no time to get used to and you can swap them super fast.

The Impaler is the best weapon.

I like Dark Ages the most for the visuals and combat mechanics, but the cutscenes/story are too indulgent, the minimalism of Doom16's presentation is unmatched. A complex story that Doomguy is ignoring to just kill demons is the goldilocks zone.

>>744575874
I'd swap Dark Ages and 2016, because 2016 hit like a bomb when it came out. Going back to it its the weakest of the three, but you have to consider its time and place.

All 3 are good and Dark Ages has the most fun weapons of the whole trilogy too.

As an aside if you lads want more of Eternal's combat Metal Eden from Reikon should be cheap, it's middle market.

>>744586693
Dark Ages doesn’t lock you in a room with a fake ass Optimus Primus.

>>744586693
But Doomguy isn’t ignoring the story. I have no idea where the meme is coming from, but he clearly cares. If he didn’t, he wouldn’t be enraged over the Hayden’s callousness towards the thousands of people that died on Mars, or back up Vega of his own accord. He cares, but he just hates Hayden and his greater good bullshit.

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>>744574126
2016> Dark Ages >Eternal

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2016 and its not ven close

the rest is just garbage
>press f for instakill animation
absolute garbage

2016 at least had a story
gunplay was great

>>744590963
Are you acting like 2016 didn't have an insta kill chainsaw?

>>744591062
that was a weapon
not a finisher that you basically needed to use to get ammo

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Best doom bar none

It did something fresh

>>744590212
Why did doom even need a fucking skill tree and gun customization
People are so fucking drained of dopamine nowadays jesus

>>744591231
More variety and play styles while also incentivizing and rewarding you for exploration and completing optional battles. Dark Ages ended up toning the upgrades down massively by mostly having straightforward upgrades for your guns, with the occasional choice between two upgrades.

>>744591103
Its primary purpose is to get ammo, you silly cunt. You can kill any enemy in the game aside from the bosses as long as you have enough chainsaw fuel. Quit being delusional.

I'm gonna be honest it's TDA for me. I was sick of glory kill animation but 2016's 2nd level. TDA is a gigantic improvement if only because they removed that shit.

>>744574126
Stinky jeet thread

>>744579145
>>744582137
/qa/ lost and died, and so will AI slop.

>>744593692
They aren’t removed, they’re just used more sparingly now.

AI sloppa.

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>>744574126
Definitely Dark Ages with Revelations DLC. That spear is fucking amazing. It feels so fucking good that I'm amazed how well it got implemented in the Dark Ages. With spear you are somehow a tank with a jetpack.

>>744595924
It’s basically just the Meat Hook mixed with the Sentinel Hammer, but with some of the effects of the other guns in the game, and the Eternal dash.

>>744574126
There's something demonic about this aislop style, and no, it's not because it's doom

>>744597980
It’s soulless.

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Unusued design for a Cosmic Mancubus.

>>744599586
greasy bastard

>>744574242
>The reddit opinion
No, this is not what doom was or ever was.

The reality is, doom was oringally about map exploration, secret finding, and to a degree speed running.
The biggest more pomanent feature of DOOM, Master levels, and door II was finding secrets and unlcoking them. Modern doom fucking SUCSK at this, its jsut arena tied to arena of combat, its shit.