What do you guys think? Is this acceptable for playing the game at high skill level?
Why wouldn't it be? You don't need more than 60 for this game, I'd argue even 60 is a luxury even for savage.
>FF14>high skill level
Define high skill level.
>>744576241I agree, I'm more concerned about the capped 30 fps for high populated content considering Evercold will have "World Raids" implemented into the overworld.
>>744576198>hey guys buy the base game and all the xpacs again for another console just to be able to loginFuck sqeex for this cancer
another dogshit toaster-specs console holding this game back, another reason to never resub
If the switch has a 120hz screen and supports VRR why don't devs lock the fps to 40 instead of 30? 40 would look perfectly good and smooth with vrr on a 120hz screen.
>>744576198Nigger people were doing savage on PS3 at 19 FPS back in the day.
>>744576198actually embarrassing, but so are the players still playing this in 2026
>not badlol
>>744576198>high skill levelNo need. They are dumbing down the game for new people to join in. The newest ultimate was a step down in difficulty and even the new forked tower magic extreme is much easier than the previous forked tower blood raid because of complaints. The new midcore difficulty and the evolved jobs is the final nail in the coffin for high end raiding.
>>744576285Post your Cruel Legend or gtfo
>>744576603I want to believe the playerbase will riot with evolved comes out but this playerbase never fails to disappoint me.
>>744576652LMAOmost of the playerbase doesn't even engage with the game itself, they just afk in cities or erp
>>744576198>high skill levelisn't the game so hugboxy that you get banned for telling people their DPS is bad
>>744576747>for telling people their DPS is badYes you do but I thought that was because "technically" the only way you could even know what someone's dps is is with 3rd party plugins or fflogs which is against tos.
>>744576198Third parties on Nintendo are retarded, have some self respect.
>>744576747no retard, you get banned for using addons, and using addons is the only way you could tell someone's dps is bad
>>744576198FF14 hasn't been a skill or progression game for quite some time, it's just millennials jerking off and treating it like second life.Releasing the game on so many platforms is developer suicide btw, they are not hiring more people so they are just working the current team harder and harder.
>>744576198>high skill>mmorpgPick one.
Is there hd rumble when walking around, using mounts, etc like in the PS5 version?
>>744577235No clue, I just know the touch screen works as shown in the live demo they did. Not sure what the touch screen could even be used for though
they should close the entire crystal datacenter from switch players
>>744576603Ultimates shouldn't be escalating in terms of difficulty with each new one. Nobody would want to do them if they kept getting longer and more tedious than TOO.Did you even clear DMU yourself?
>>744577045the more platforms they release on the harder it is to put out patches, so it takes longer and longer to make patches and people start quitting
>>744577353Any non combat UI navigation.
>>744576198>30 FPS on a PS3 gameis switch 2 that weak
>>744576603I can tell you don’t raid and you don’t do ultimates, so why are you talking about them?
>>744577438PS4 can barely handle this PS3 game.Funny how that works.
generals belong on /vg/
>>744577628My favorites squinty eyed youtuber said Kefka is easier than uwu.His word is gospel.
>>744576747no
The exact moment they ruined the dark fantasy aesthetic that the first trailer had built up, and as such ruined all my interest in the expansion.https://youtu.be/99uyS9WCV38?si=e-0TAeZ0SghjehZj&t=173
ff14 players don't understand that when they release the game on weak hardware, that becomes the new standard. pc players are going to be held back to that, cause they cannot and will not release multiple versions of each patch
>>744577727yep completely agree that shit destroyed the vibesick of cutesy shit shoehorned into everything
>>744577742All MMO are optimized to run on outdated toasters with graphics set to low, retard.
>>744577780>2 seconds of levity in otherwise more of the same RUINED EVERYTHING>the crystarium section of the shadowbringers trailer RUINED EVERYTHING>the kugane section of the stormblood trailer RUINED EVERYTHING>the sharlayan section of the endwalker trailer RUINED EVERYTHING
Yoshi P is the DSP gaming of game developers.He is fixated with ego and looking successful, without just making a better game to get those players. Instead he just keeps releasing the game on more and more platforms to pad out numbers (it will often be the same players who are already playing, but are on a new platform now).There is no universe where releasing the game on so many platforms is a good thing, he does not have the manpower to make this work without ruining the game and working the developers so hard they leave and go work at another studio.
>>744576747Yes
>>744577912yes
>>744577927He already said he can't get people to come work for him, they prefer working at other studios.
>>744577912>It's only a BMW, a single BMW in a scene where you have tens of thousands of horsemen. RUINED EVERYTHING!Because it's tone clashing you moron, you don't build up one specific aesthetic and tone only to undermine it by introducing a separate aesthetic and tone within the same trailer.
>>744577912none of those sections focused on some random cat kid
>>744578024final fantasy never had a tone you retard, it's "rule of cute/cool (japan)" all the way downif you took this shit seriously you would've been filtered way back in ARR in which we fight the highly advanced garlean empire using guns and mechs with shitty swords and shields
>>744576198>30 fps for field contentunacceptable and it will probably drop frames for certain fights too. the $7 monthly sub fee for existing players that might want to play in handheld is retarded too.shit port for morons that only have a switch 2.
30 fps only how? I tried this game trial and the game looked like shit.
>>744576198ps4 held back the 7.0 graphics update for 10 years. and now the switch 2 is going to do the same for the next 10 years.
>>744578024How does this image relate to anything? You don’t even understand what it means or why it was made. There is nothing out of canon universe in the trailer. It does not clash with the tone, things do not have to be one note. Contrast is not a bad thing. A brief moment to breathe for literally 3 seconds before going back to a city under siege. I know you just want to talk shit, so it’s pointless to engage, but you’re being ridiculous.
>>744578098shut up secondary
>>744578113MMORPGs are CPU heayv games and the Switch 2's CPU is fucking dogshit(understandable since it's a handheld).
>>744578024How is a falconer hanging around with their bird a tone clash?
>>744578015I remember reading Square Enix can't hire new talent, they pay the least of all major Japanese game developers (cause they pay the higher up staff far too much, they have a "superstar" culture), they have almost no creative freedom and they overwork their staff.Capcom are the dream company of most talented young developers.
>>744578024>irrelevant imageyou have exposed yourself as a retard
>>744578172Said the tourist, desperately trying to fit in.
>>744578098>final fantasy never had a tone you retardWhat are you doing? You're either doing this really retarded and predictable thing of pretending to not understand things or you really are this stupid. Go back and watch the Heavensward trailer, Answers, Shadowbringers. They have a specific tone and don't undermine it within the same trailer. Even Endwalker sticks to the tone it's trying to set.Dawntrail has a different tone to the previous expansion trailers, they're trying to be more 'uplifting' and unserious however it isn't undermined with a dark brooding, world ending scene which would tone clash with the more 'fun' aspect of what Dawntrail's trailer was trying to do.This Evercold latest trailer is trying to do too much and it absolutely is tone clashing. Take the first teaser trailer, it's setting up the tone as being series, Dark fantasy, with an existential threat.The latest trailer undermines the seriousness of what the first trailer presented by now having a cutesy PG13 character and mascot, little wand and the change to softer female vocals.
>>744576631>Cruel LegendUltimatefags are embarassing if they think ultimateslop have any prestige. Ultimate weapons are SUPER common because all it takes is to watch a youtube video or memorize a raidplan. If you didn't do your own strats an ultimate clear isn't anything impressive except for sprouts or clueless casuals
>>744577042Just looking at the aggo bar and then looking at the person who is low on list and is easy to tell someone is doing bad dps but you also have to know what each class skill does
>>744578165>>744578217>>744578247Stop samefagging, you're embarrassing yourself with how stupid you're presenting yourself. It's showing how it's tone clashing, which is immediately obvious to anyone with a functioning frontal lobe.
Am I a schizo or wasn't there an iOS version in development? I want to play on my phone.
>>744578317You’re so stupid that it hurts.
>>744578250potkettle
>>744578397That was done by a chinese dev.
>>744578397
>>744578397Yes you're schizo
>>744578397I have good news and bad news for you. It exists and you can play it right now:https://ffxivmobile.com/web202409/index.html#/It's getting shut down in a month:https://ffxivmobile.com/web202409/#/news/detail?lang=en&id=6356384a-2423-46a6-9781-87377895a917
>>744578278Yet you have no clearsCurious
>>744578442No argument just insults, ok then you are what I previously accused you of.This is getting boring now of 'hardcore' Final Fantasy fans, you'd think you'd grow out of making a single game series your personality or at the very least be able to understand criticism for what it is what you see it, instead of having this emotive reaction induced through you having an anxiety attack because someone dared to criticise this game series.You do this every thread to deflect from what the original criticism is, you're hoping that if you keep insulting that it'll be forgotten in all the noise of what you're trying to create.The kid in the trailer with the bird mascot and Amanda Achens vocals RUINS the tone and aesthetic of Evercold's trailer which is what is meant to get a person invested in the next expansion.
>both of the new things for freelancer are fucking useless>the skill reset puts other skills on a 5 minute cool down >the change in combat to a different Phantom job only works if your a freelancer Man freelancer only useful for the buff and treasure detection would have liked it if they just upgrade that to show the chests on the map
>>744578550They should've just moved that version of the game onto the switch 2.
>>744578550Thanks, anon.
>>744577042>you get banned for using addonsNo you don't.
>>744577727You'll survive.
>>744578582I cleared the weapon's refrain, the epic of alexander and futures rewritten but it doesn't matter because I'm not going to dox myself to prove it. I'm not a good player either because I copied what a youtube video was showing. The highest level gameplay of this game consists of pulze solving skills and if you're not engaging with it (doing your own strats) you can't consider yourself a good player
>>744577042You don't get banned for using add-ons, which is why the console versions are cucked. You can't even cactbot if you wanted to.Like imagine playing WoW on console without add-ons, what a fucking shitshow that would be.
>>744578605You literally resorted to screeching samefag because your post was retarded. Not everyone that thinks what you posted is dumb is the same person. You spent all of this time posting the exact same thing again with no clarification or amendment. There’s nothing else to say to you. You cannot fathom the concept of contrast as a device in media. Your assertion that the miqote could not possibly fit in the setting is also wrong. You are having a fit about a few seconds of levity before it resumes with a city under siege and being destroyed, followed by a giant looming over the burning city. You are comically absurd and have no interest in any kind of dialogue so I don’t know why you’re persisting. I was correct in my initial assumption that you were not worth engaging with and just want to find something to bait about. Take your final (You) and respond with whatever last word you want to take if you want.
>>744578582Yet your clears are worth only 5 euros on boosting websites.CuriousMaybe put value on more productive things in life, like getting a job.
>>744578642Such a letdown.I was really looking forward to the final Freelancer update.Phantom Jobs could have been so much fun to mess around with if they did not design them all with such a no fun allowed mentality.I'm surprised they actually allowed PH.RDM to grant dualcast on every job.Dualcast Picto is a pretty fun meme way to play the job.
>>744578270Love how you just conveniently forgot about the SB trailer which isn't helping your case at all.
>>744576198Didn't SE themselves say this is basically for crafting and gather while on the shitter
>>744578907I do agree to an extent. Being able to learn, apply information and be consistent are important skills that make you a good player too. The fact that world first players are the best and most autistic players does not necessarily diminish the ability to see a long fight to the end and be consistent. World first players are obviously better and yes, anyone who is boastful about an uwu clear in the last 6 years are retards. It’s a joke ultimate.
>>744578945>Like imagine playing WoW on console without add-ons, what a fucking shitshow that would be.As if WoW wasn't also racing to the bottom.
I'm looking forward to Evolved mode.
>>744578270>dark fantasy>existential threat
>>744579035>I could clear if I wanted to, I just don’t want towhy are you talking about something you have no experience in?do you have anything to say at all?
>>744576198How does it work when I already have a XIV account? Can I connect it with my switch? Also, playing without mods seems terrible.
>>744579241This is Avengers level normie cringe, only Final Fantasy cattle could love this.
>>744577727You don't attack a single living thing in the trailer. It is all abstract ice constructs. XIV left its edgy phase with Endwalker.
>>744579268Don't cry, your MMO clears are worth extremely little, low skill needed, sold for dirt cheap.XIV is a game for casuals.
>>744579198The bosses in WoW are still all designed around having an add-on tell you exactly what to do and when. The game would be too hard for most consolebabs even when they don't need to pay attention to their rotation at all.
>>744579284Buy the loicense again, g0y.
>>744579390Is it a one time payment for the switch 2 version or that AND a monthly fee?
>>744579198modern wow is such a joke
>>744576198I could care less about FFXIV and the Switch 2
>>744579418They treat every platform as a different acc. Unless they changed it now, and I doubt because Nintendo has its own shenanigans, you have to buy your SW2 FF14 loicense, plus expansion plus sub.It's not meant to be a portable alternative for PC players. It's meant to be FF14 SW2 version.
>>744579373Careful, you're shattering all he has in life, his ultimate titles are very important to him...
>>744579442and yet you cared enough to enter the thread AND make a post
>>744579491Well, I will miss out on it then. XIV on Switch 2 means Y'shtola for Smash tho.
>>744579284The Switch 2 version costs an extra $7 a month to play if you already have an active service account elsewhere. You have to buy the expansions and such again too like you had to do between the PS4/PC/Xbox versions.The PS4/PS5 version is the only console version that isn't super cucked if you want to crossplay. Xbox requires you to be subbed to one of their Game Pass tiers because you need their online sub on top of the XIV sub and the Switch 2 version wants you to pay a separate monthly fee on top of the one you're paying for on PC.
>>744579373you could have just said no
>>744577727Mixed like complete shit
>>744579552Just wanted to comment how both are shit
>>744576198This game is like 20 years old and the switch 2 can barely run it
>>744579442>I could care lessI’m glad that you do care, anon
>>744579720>20 years oldThe version that exists now isn't even 15 years old.
>>744578065The Crystarium section of the ShB trailer focused on a random viera dancer that doesn't even appear in the actual game.
>>744579846And neither is the anon you're responding to.
>>744579643Keep coping lil bro
>>744579134The thing is that 99% of ultimate players wouldn't clear if you blocked them access to youtube and google. Being consistent if a skill, sure, but anyone can do it. Does everyone have enough brainpower to solve ultimate mechanics and clear it? That's were the true skill is
>>744577353Prob could set a hotbar at the side that opens the extra menu that has 5x5 slots for actions or something
>lv. 44 mimic on my second chance pot gold chestWell fuck you too YoshiP
>>744579134>Being able to learn, apply information and be consistent are important skills that make you a good player too. The fact that world first players are the best and most autistic players does not necessarily diminish the ability to see a long fight to the end and be consistent.Don't word first raiders have entire teams behind them, analysing footage and basically solving the fights for them? Honestly, what makes high end XIV combat so unbearable to me is that the encounter design is so toxic that it makes your own team mates the worst part of the experience, which is absolutely antithetical to what an MMO should be imo. You should be happy to have others around you and you should be able to support each other, but none of that can happen when everyone just has to solve their own DDR puzzle.
>>744580382I agree completely. I just don’t think that it makes someone bad to have cleared with those training wheels. The only people who deserve some kind of respect are the autists that clear week 1, though doesn’t mean the dorks clearing later aren’t better on average that the vast majority of the player base. That said there are plenty of people who get there through war of attrition after thousands and thousands of pulls. Basically there’s a bit of nuance and levels to the concept.
>human eye can't detect the difference between 30 and 60 fps, let alone anything higher>somehow the "debate" rages on
>>744580734retard
>>744579308ah yes Avengers invented dropkicks
>>744580656Most of the time, ultimates in party finder is a fun experience because people do enjoy the experience of progging with others and puzzling things out. Almost all of the parties I’ve been in have been friendly and had plenty of fun together, who all wanted to stay in contact. The only time you get people being angry at team mates are when you run into someone hardstuck at a certain point at the fight and they’ll just end up leaving quickly. The only time I’ve ever actually enjoyed engaging with the community in the game is through raiding. Shit like limsa, balmung, etc are the real unbearable people. The people actually playing the game are the ones who aren’t faggots mostly.
>>744579916>focuses on a new job and racewow that's totally the sameyou fucking retarded imbecile
>>744577727eh I'll take her over woke lemutt
>>744580897Wow, that is the polar opposite to my experience. Usually its a "3 strikes" rule or the groups just crumble after the first few attempts. Let alone the shitshow that fflogs enables.
>>744581009In my experience, that’s definitely more of a savage reclear kind of thing months into the tier when only bad mindset players and autists are still going. Ultimates I think are mostly different because everyone comes into it understanding that it’s a marathon. Probably also because you know you’re going to see the same people if you’re keeping pace. When you hit clear attempts though, frustration creeps in on people.
>>744580734Todd Howard called you a moron for this opinion before you were born.
Why are ff14 players so angry all the time? Are other mmo communities like wow and runescape similar?
>30fps in big group stuffI guess it would be tolerable depending on the situation. Not buying it myself though, much less dealing with a secondary sub.
>>744576198Doesn't matter. It's dead on arrival.
>yoshida says this will be the last relic we see and they will think of something new to give people the weapon skinsThis will be shit they put at the end of the season pass, right?
>>744581568No he hasn't. They're not going to take away am entire line of weapons.
>>744581657based illiterate anon
>>744581425>Are other mmo communities like wow and runescape similar?Yes, the end game of MMORPGs is running out of content and making up content of your own(it involves bitching about everything.)
>>744581657>https://game.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/2097876.html>Yoshi-P believes that they've hit the reasonable limits of the design behind Relic Weapon series, due to the ever-growing Job count and time investment required in these questlines, so there are plans to wrap up this kind of design with Dawntrail and do something different in the future. Since theres a big gap in feedback between difficulty opinions, the burden being too great, and so on, they want to move onto completely new ways of providing the fun of developing weapons and armour, so the current format will be put on break for now with more details to come in the FanFests. He believes we haven't seen the last of Gerolt and Rowena though.
>>744581717Based retard anon. They're not going to remove an entire grind from the game.
>>744581759Yeah okay, you will get a token from the battle pass and you can trade it in Gerolt's weapon store for a glowy relic weapon.
>>744581759>there are plansI'll believe that when I fucking see it.>too many jobsThis isn't fucking job quests, they're not making unique questlines here. They already don't have you do relic steps more than once anyways. It isn't like ARR where you were suffering the books or light grind for each relic.
>>744581759To be fair, yoshi p talks shit in interviews constantly. He probably had too many plates and doesn’t actually understand what he’s talking about sometimes.
>>744576198XIV hasnt had a high skill level since HW. I am very confused why players think skippers and switch players are going to ruin the game when it has been widely known that 95% of mentors are conplete dogshit and die 6x in a normal raid instance that they had to have cleared already for said Mentor status. Nevermind the amount of long time players who are equally as bad without being mentors sonlmehow.I'm pretty sure it's just shadowbab's having their first pearl-clutching moment.
>>744576198now do hunt trains
Funny how hard the hype fell off after the recent fan fest.Everyone knows it just going to be Dawntrail 2.0
>Clearly nordic inspired armor>Next expansion will have a nordic-fantasy setting>FFXIV's identity is referencing past FF entries>Name this BASTION and not VIKINGWhy?
>>744582105HW being harder is a myth outside of gordias which was just badly balanced. Jobs were not that complex and fights were very simplistic overall. The people who wax romantic about heavensward weren’t there to begin with.
>>744582409Viking is a loaded term in 2026 chud. Next you will be asking for a job called H*tler
>>744582416HW still had aggro management, resource management and some pre combat group considerations. All of these are gone now because they really want XIV to be an action MMO for the younger generation who, according to SE, do not enjoy any of those elements since they make you rely on the rest of your group.
>>744582416Players were worse and there were less resources, that’s all there really is to it
>>744582507Aggro I agree with. I miss that aspect of the game. The difficulty of the game is overstated back then. Also I don’t miss tp at all. That was the worst thing about the game in its entire history.
>>744582409This is the kind of person who will accuse others of lacking imagination.>>744582507>>744582667My bet is they removed aggro management less to help noob tanks and more to help noob dps/healers, who had a bit of a role to play in that instead of just going gung ho.
>>744582507Heavensward wasn't exactly critically acclaimed for its gameplay my nigga
>>744582848They removed aggro management because of tank anxiety. There was an actual undersupply of tanks at the time. Tanks got a lot of shit for not holding aggro and sometimes it wasn’t even their fault between black mages not using quelling strikes and healers spamming medica 2. It was pretty miserable when you did everything right and retards would not work with you then blamed you for it.
>>744583000Based trips.Still, dps and healers being unable to do their proper job in not pulling too much aggro ended up fucking things up.Nowadays there is the rare retard tank who will manage to die due to using no mits and the healer will still apologize on chat.
>>744582409Not every expansion going forward is going to be set in Frozen Viking Land retard. They class has to match whatever future locales they do that aren't cold snowy ones.
>>744583203Then why is Samurai a thing if not every expansion isn't Othard retard
>>744582416Jobs were way more complex, fights were simple but still had more meat to them besides half-cleaves, spread/stack, and dynamo/chariot. Thordan EX is an 11 year old fight and it still utterly mogs every EX that has come out after in terms of design.
>>744582370Shadowbringers 2.0*Last fan fest did nothing but reveal Bastion and shill the final ff7r game.Also beastmaster shit.My bet is right now anyone considering getting EC day one wants to know more about Evolved mode and they said nothing about it there.
shitch poo
>>744583000>tank anxietyWestern phenomenon>Tanks got a lot of shit for not holding aggroDidn't happen in Japan, which is the only feedback the devs take into consideration
>>744576198The game has a fucking 2.5 seconds GCD and none of the content is hard until you do Ultimates, there's retards on PC RIGHT NOW with 25 FPS getting carried
>>744582370It was barely there to begin with. I rolled my eyes at the NA reveal when the trailer was just begging players to remember SHB, it even had fucking Wardens.
>>744583379So why did they change it?Nips thought holding aggro was too gay when tanks should be blue dps?
>>744582409When you think of Viking you think more of axes than a dual shield guy
>>744581759This relic set was pretty good but should have had more steps doing inside of OC
>>744583436Ultimates aren't that hard, just utterly time consuming. Like yeah there's a couple challenging mechs but you gotta waste 10 minutes every time to get to them
>>744582667>>744583000It doesn't matter what they removed, it matters what they replaced it with. And it always has been>less reaction time>more mental loadAnd guess what, evolved will continue that. You have less buttons to press/no strict rotation to adhere to any more? Great, now have more mechanics! They even said they despise having to tutorialize mechanics and let the boss start slow with an AoE or tankbuster, so be fully prepared for shit to start with Limit Cut or Grand Cross. The continued trend of harder fights will kill this game.
>>744583379Japan made the same complaintsYou don’t know what you’re talking about
>>744583578Tanks got big axes, magic sword & shield, magic big sword, magic blade sword.I don’t think they’re repeating any class with an off-hand shield althought BST seems to use axe & shield.They had to go beyond for Bastion. I think monk tanks are lame but they’re a thing in rpgs for ages now. And these got dual shields with cannons, lowkey cool af.
>>744583645I’m sorry you’re bad at the game.
>>744582416You CLEARLY did not play during HW.I played religously from 2.0's closed beta through Endwalker. Jobs were way more complex in HW and have been getting dumbed down ever since.Gordias was overtuned but Alexander Savage continued to have multiple complicated mechanics. The mechanics were more creative and unique too, its because of how complicated Alex was that everything devolved into generic "stack, spread, look away" markers in every expansion since (although Tsukuyomi had interesting mechanics in Stormblood, I'd like to see who designed her fight).There is no question that jobs were at their most complex in HW. The real discussion is whether or not those classes played well. I love HW MNK and was eh on DRG and BLM. I didnt heal or tank back then so I dont have much to say about them other than AST was a great Job before it was ruined in subsequent expansions.
>>744583645That fight design wasn’t in the last tier of arcadion by the way, not that you would know
>>744583645What harder fights? They keep saying the fights are gonna get harder and then keep dumbing down everything so trusts and chocobos can do them. I'll believe it when I see it.
>>744583835>I didnt heal or tank back thenHealing was still very fun and engaging and a healer that could pace themself well, keep their MP up and be good at stance dancing was very welcome.Tanks were a lot more fragile and funnily enough the role that was depending most on the rest of the team. Have a good healer that can keep you up, have DPS that didn't blast away mindlessly (or have a NIN) and a BRD/MCH that could help you with TP if things went on for too long.
>>744578907how the fuck would posting a picture of your screen with a timestamp dox you?
>>744584020DT was significantly harder than anything before.>muh ultimatesI really don't think we should consider content for less than 5% of the playerbase relevant to these discussions.
I fully expect the changes like evolved, the battlepass, killing relics/tome gear to go over like a fart in church when EC releases. As a result they will spend the next 2 years trying to unfuck and rebalance everything they fucked up, to appease the angry playerbase, and we'll get another patch cycle of nect to no content. They better hope to God that the MSQ isn't dogshit again because they are going into this this with almost no goodwill after DT.
>>744576198>>744576241>>744576545>no plugins>no Discord supportYeah, good luck with that. NO ONE is playing this shit in endgame content. It’s DOA. >>744577042This is FFXIV, not WoW. Addons aren’t bannable and are in fact encouraged by the developer. And unlike WoW, FFXIV allows you to do way more, like automate your rotation or shorten your GCD.
>>744584173It’s always strange when people say FFXIV hasn’t been getting harder when people still fucking die in zot, it’s just the player base also has gotten better over a decade plus
Video game generals belong on /vg/
>>744584173It absolutely was not, people cried their lungs out about sabotender valley and the carnival one. You know why? Because those two dungeons did not have to be weighed down by trusts. And then one month later the raid and weekly tomegear powercrept those dungeons so hard everyone got over it.oh, and they weren't hard dungeons at all, maybe ARR-HW tier when they were relevant. Modern playerbase needs insane amount of handholding, plugins, etc to play an MMO that hates being an MMO.
>>744584423Post the link to that article of that image you posted, I want to see something
>>744576747You cant say anything that could get interpreted as even slightly critical so the playerbase has opted to dance around the issues in the most passive aggressive way and even then it depends on how mentally ill the reporter is and how the gm handling the report feels on that given day and hour. Bots, cheaters and duty afkers get ignored no matter what though.
>>744584519The ghost one still annoying as fuck if you got bad ping
>>744584519Then why are savage participation numbers still so low?
>>744584519Wait a minute this retard thinks ARR and HW stuff was hard compared to newer stuff LOL
>>744584708You can take any wow style MMO and pull the numbers and raid participation will be low
>>744576198I haven't played this but I'm a lapsed WoW fan who just does 1-60 on classic every year. Is this a good comfy levelling experience?
>>744584926No. Especially since the story quests is required. Starting from zero sounds like the worst thing in the world
>>74458470820-30% savage participation is on the better end of MMO endgame desu. The only MMO adjacent game that had higher raid participation was Destiny and, for better or worse, Bungie did a much better job setting players up for endgame than any other company.>>744584840Sohm Al Hard was like 20 9/11s if you were a healer in 3.5.
>>744584840NTA but it was because jobs were harder. AKA enmity management existed and cleric stance was a thing. The skill cap for jobs was way higher back then, even melee not being able to sprint without losing all their TP made everything much harder for them.
>>744585245Sprint didn't exist in ARR or HW retard. It's a relatively very new skill.
>>744585087>leveling sucks because it makes you play the only good part of the gamek then
>>744576198Playing on a PS5 feels bad as it is. I can't imagine playing this on a Switch 2.
>>744585095>20-30% savage participation is on the better end of MMO endgame desu.Completely debunked by Yoshida himself in the last fanfest, the numbers are around 15%.
>>74458539380%of the story is a drawn out slog.
>>744585371LOL>>744585393He's not wrong in a manner of speaking. The early game has been completely stripped of all friction
>>744585371???
>>744585393People who just want to participate in le endgame (raiders) are the only people the devs listen to, hence the MSQ quality completely tanking and shit like 'auto navigation' getting introduced.
>>744584423I haven't played FFXIV since the PS3 version, doesn't everything you said already apply to the very successful console versions of the game that already exist?
>>744585371The Jog debuff is newSprint lasting 20 seconds is new-ishSprint not emptying all your TP is olderSprint has been around since ARRThese are the people who want yo convince you this games combat is its strongest point.
>>744585485Yes, everyone knows the goal of FFXIV is too rush to endgame as quickly as possible. Endgame being to remember to log in once a month so your house doesn't get demolished.
>>744584926YMMV.Skill learning is spread way too think as it is from lv1 to 100.Even the lv1~50 experience, which used to be the majority of the game story time, is still a very watered down and shitty version of all jobs available.Even worse if you get any later job and get sync'd down to 50, some of them literally have two buttons to press, plus role actions.If you're going to play, maybe wait for EC since the overhaul will affect everyone, even f2p accs.
easiest DPS class for newbie? OwO
>>744585824BLM, it isn't even close. VPR is second but you still have positionals and mechanic execution is harder in melee.
>>744585564I do the raids, because it's content and the music and stories are often interesting (plus rewards) but anyone who unironically finds XIV raids to be the pinnable of gameplay experience has so many levels of mental illness I can't even fathom it.
>>744585087Huh. I'll give it a miss
>>744585908they nerfed blm that much? wasn't it the hardest last xpac?
>>744585604The vast majority of people in North America play on PC, which is why virtually everyone uses plugins. The console version is merely an obligation to shareholders at this point who don’t know or care how the game is actually doing. The console version of FFXIV is like the Xbox version of TF2.
>>744585824SMN and you get a free healer out of it.
>>744576447You get all the previous Xpacks from buying the latest one only you dont need to re buy all the previous ones individually and they already made like first 2 and soon the 3rd one part of the free trial.
>>744585995Yeah, they removed everything that made BLM interesting. You can have something like 17 GCDs of no cast time if you really need to. But it shows that the community will always go for the easiest Job (due to encounter design getting more and more convoluted). At the start of DT you saw absolutely no BLM anywhere and it was basically only PCT. Now BLM is way easier than PCT and its the default DPS job in most groups.
>>744585454Actually he said 20%, which like I said is average for vast majority MMO endgames. It's good that they want to bump the numbers up I guess, but XIV is a coom and goon game and without raid buffs theres no reason for raiders to parselog their excel spreadslop.
>>744585920He's a mentally ill raidtranny. The MSQ/leveling is by far the best part of the game. Just quit after EW because it all goes to shit after that.
>>744578907This.t. cleared merchant's tale hard mode blind two weeks ago
>>744586170>Actually he said 20%Slide reads 14%-20%.>which like I said is average for vast majority MMO endgames.You said 20-30%.You are not very good with numbers, are you?
>>744586250>>744585920If you like leveling in Classic WoW you will HATE FFXIV leveling.
the only arr/hw dungeon i recall being "hard"(boring) was Neverreap shit dragged on for so long because everybody's ilvl was so low
>>744586156man that's crazy, blm was the hardest job for the longest time. life long blms must be furious that they dumbed it down so much, i know i'm going to fucking seethe nonstop and switch jobs if they remove mudras from nin in evolved mode.
>>744586170They have data like this and still they release shit like FT:Blood, CodCAR, Quantum and fucking Criterion and barely any casual content. Why the fuck are they so obsessed with raid shit? Why are they talking about removing the last real way for casuals to work towards player power with removing the relic?
>>744586296Yeah, 14% for NA and 20% for JP. Whats not to get? 20% is in the range of average.
>>744586331Neverreap was fucking boring I hated getting it on my expert roulette back then
>>744586458So one realm (Mana) is the 20% average and the rest is far below (Crystal is like 5%). That averages out at... 15%.
>>744586448The MSQ and dungeons are the casual content. What more do you want? You guys already got island sanctuary and you hated that
>>744586448>barely any casual content. 90% of the game is casual content. What the game really needs is proper (read: not criterion dungeons) midcore content. M+ rejuvenated WoW. FFXIV repeatedly tries and fails to do the same because Crystal Tools was never meant to be an MMO engine
>>744576652Why would they do that? Evolved sounds a lot better than the current button bloat mess we have.
>>744586606>muh midcoreWorthless nothingburger buzzword.
>>744586724That just means raids or dungeons with Ex Trial difficulty.Personally for me Ex Trials are the perfect difficulty curve where its not to hard and not to easy and not to time consuming.
>>744586704No one will riot, people will just quit when they find out that Jobs have gotten more boring. Ignoring the High Jump for DRG (genuinely the only exciting thing Evolved showed) what changed for PLD, WHM or BRG? Nothing. Same Jobs, same skills, just buttons rolled into each other and less utility buttons. Which means grinding FATE or running DF stuff will feel even worse.The only benefit this has it that it makes mapping your buttons easier on console and people don't need to learn an opener and spend time on a dummy.
>>744586448They should release a casual blood tower , casual magic tower is fucking great and a ton of people just go in each time it shows up
>>744586953You’re clearly retard if you seen the evolve dragoon and think it will be boring
>>744584159Not him, but there have been people who have found Xeno and his all his alt with less info.
>>744586953There's like 40 buttons to press for some classes at the moment. There is no reason for the 1-2-3 combo to be on 3 buttons instead of one (like GW2 did over a decade ago) and there's no reason for skills not to be contextual depending on the target selected.
>>744587176That's because Xeno made no real effort to hide that he was playing while banned
>>744587227If retards really care for that they can put the 1 button combo into 3 hotbar slots anyway.
>>744582409No one wants to be associated with Assassin's Creed Vahalla.
>>744587227At least with 123 you get the small feeling that you're performing a different action with each button press. Not looking forward to mashing 1 for 8 seconds to do my 123 combo
>>744587330oh wow that really justifies them taking up 3 slots.
>>744587373Kinda yeah? I never had an issue with keybinds because I'm not a shitter.
>>744587330Agreed. The last thing this game needed was a babbymode.
>>744587330I really feel bad for you if that makes you feel so alive.But I wonder how will SE cope and backpedal if Evolved shitter mode gets a very bad reception. After DT they're not in a position to double down.
>>744587435Irrelevant. People don't like it and they're changing it.Lucky for you though they still have clunky/shitty mode for most classes, so you can pretend to prefer it for a few weeks before you inevitably change.
>>744587330It doesn't matter what you do, that is the point of evolved. Streamline Jobs so you don't need to put any mental capacity to them any more. All that matters is what the boss does. So yeah, dungeons trash will feel even more boring and uninspired and come the next expansion they will drop that as well and dungeons are just 3 back to back bosses.
>>744587524>I really feel bad for you if that makes you feel so aliveI didnt imply anything like that>>744587564>People don't like it and they're changing it.Another reason on my very long list of why listening to your playerbase is a terrible idea most of the time.
>>744579648The first two trailers are always mixed like shit.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAobb8_SzHY
>>744587632>dungeons are just 3 back to back bosses.Perfect.Trash packs never made any sense anyway. They offer no challenge other than to make you use your AoE buttons (which are going away, too).
>>744587641>Another reason on my very long list of why listening to your playerbase is a terrible idea most of the time.Especially this one when a majority of the playerbase doesn't even play the game, just idle in Limsa and masturbate with other men.
why did she do itwhat do we think of the north horn?
>>744587632>Streamline Jobs so you don't need to put any mental capacity to them any more.Except thats where the fun is. Handling the mental capacity of performing the job's rotation while doing mechanics. You cant just have one and not the other in these WoW style MMOs because then it's not engaging.With FFXIV and WoW dumping everything down like this is probably what finally gets me to step away from these kinds of MMOs.
>>744587676Awesome. Since they also remove navigation and movement from the overworld, how about we have each MSQ be a 2 hour movie and after that you have the choice to do savage or log out? I feel that would be your favourite way of engaging with the game. By the way, did you ever try Rabbit and Steel? It has none of the nasty shit like trash mobs, mandatory story or overworld shit, just pure DDR combat.>https://store.steampowered.com/app/2132850/Rabbit_and_Steel/You should check it out! No more wasting your precious time in an MMO.
>>744587641And why should they listen to ((You)), instead?I bet they're betting most endgame addicts won't quit over combat overhaul due to sunk cost.Not unlike WoW and how it shits on its veteran playerbase for what are literal decades now.
>>744577727>tranny replaced with loli>anon finds fault with thisWhat faggot shit are you talking about?What was the dark fantasy in the first trailer beating up crystal golems? The flower wilting?The closest thing to dark fantasy was not!Odin looking at his waifu disappear.
>>744587564>argumentum ad populumYou are not a real woman, troon, nd therefore no one has any incentive to tolerate your braindead takes.
>>744587801If they had trash mobs with different properties, skills, spells and debuffs that made you actually need to engage their packs instead of just evading yellow market on the floor, they could work.The way they've almost always been, just busywork between bosses spammed on the dozens, can be ultimately and safely trimmed.
>>744587905holy schizo meltdown.
>>744587825You're right about retards being attracted to this tranny game and not quitting no matter what
>>744580924>>focuses on a new job and raceSaving this for when it's revealed that is the scene before the falconer job sics the bird on some monsters in the next second.
>>744587847Wuk isn't a tranny in JP, the canon language.
>>744587916Really not beating the Savage Raid Sim allegations there. You do realize we can't have any of the things you mentioned because the devs put all their eggs in the "Action MMO" basket?
>>744587916Every time they try something like that, people complain that it's too much effort and then they nerf it. The daily dungeons need to be designed to be cleared with your brain switched off, otherwise no one will do them.
>>744587916They hated him, because he spoke the truth.
>>744577727I want her to pee in my mouth.
>>744582409Are we really doing the "why don't they use existing names" discussion again? You'd think 15 years was enough time to get over FF14 classes having weird names especially when most subsequent jobs added turned around and made explicit reference to past FF jobs. What is it about this particular point that riles people up? Bastion is just FF Viking but with less axe/hammer and more gun.
>>744588390The only FF viking we had was a literal costume of a bearded barbarian with an axe.What does bastion ever fucking has to do with that? Not even the weapon style, it's closer to mecha anime like sage funnels are.
>>744576471FFXIV 1.0 was a pc exclusive. Pray tell how did that turn out for Square you retarded fat fuck
>>744588512>sage funnelsI know what you are.
>>744588512FF3 Viking (at least the 3D remake version of the game) is a defensive job that can provoke enemies to hit itself, and can equip hammers and axes as weapons... but you can also make it wield shields on both hands for extra defense. Seems a pretty clear throughline to Bastion, combined with the existing FF14 gunshield aesthetic some Garlean fags had.
>>744588727So you think the fact that it was a PC exclusive and not the fact that it was pure unfettered AIDS was the problem?
>>744588727They spent too much money on graphics and motion capture, the game itself was fine.
video game generals belong on /vg/
>>744588242Isn't a tranny in NA either, just had some retard casting by the dumb white hole who made fay they/them explicitly for her fuckass agenda.Regardless it's what she's known as, connotation > denotation.
>>744588727It was always planned to be released on console, it just wasnt at launch (same as FFXI). Then once the problems with 1.0 were made apparently they shelved the console version to work on 2.0
>>744588997Is there confirmation Kate is fired yet? Also is Hiroi still employed?
>>744590630Holy shit people still bring up her? Legitimately haven seen her since DT’s fanfest
>>744590630There's been some shit passed around on /v/ about her working at a theater now and Koji Fox taking up his position as Yoshida's voice on stage again, but nothing a definitive as "We fired that dumb pink haired bitch, please look forward to it."
>>744591179>but nothing a definitive as "We fired that dumb pink haired bitch, please look forward to it."Shame. If they want people to come back for EC they need to give them something to be excited about.
>>744590630There is a new fat translation lady, so chances are she was fired or demoted.
>>744576198I'm just waiting for Endwalker to be added to the free trial and then hang the coat.
>>744578550how far did it end up getting to? i think first set of coil turns was in
>>744578642>battle change only works if freelancerholy shit, they really did everything in their power to make phantom jobs boring as hell
>glamour options completely opened up>possibilities are endless>do any kind of group content>everyone is still just wearing casual slop
>>744583379for as better Japan is across the board in terms of clear rates, they're also paradoxically likely the most vocal about wanting to dumb down jobs
>>744592361The combat feels like trash, so no one wants to re-run old content for new glamours, not that difficult to figure out.
>>744582416cleric stance alone is more complex than any current job lmao
>>744592361yeah im surprised i don't see different types of slutglam either
>>744592361I’m mostly glad personally that I can finally use bits of various AF sets
Raiding is a retarded hobby for mentally ill autists and I hope SE catering to baby casuals after this shit comes out kills them for good.
>>744592361>use my job armor>use my job weapon (preferrably no neon glow version)I'm ready for Duties.
>>744594223Seethe and mald, lil gup. Raiding is peak and here to stay, more players will build up interest with the new middle difficulty and removal of retarded Trick Attack slop. We have never been more back.
my favorite thing about coils was that every floor was cheesed to hell, no one cared about dps just give us the loot
>>744583379>tank anxietyIt's just a problem with shut-in weirdos who are too afraid of being held responsible for leading the fight, for leading a team of people, for controlling a team. It's not 'tank anxiety' it's 'I'm a fuck up with no real life skills interacting and leading people' anxiety.
>le typing minigameThis pisses me off because they could have created a rhythm game instead with the most popular music.
>>744595043>too afraid of being held responsible for leading the fight, for leading a team of people, for controlling a team.If only. Nobody in 14 says anything>fight with a tankbuster and stack markers>go to the stack market just to see what people would say>group wipes>nobody says anything and just tries the fight again
>>744595029NOOOOOOOOOO YOU HAVE TO RESPECT MY PARSE THE BOSS NEEDS TO DIE WHEN I HAVE MY 120s AND 90s AND POTS REALIGN STOP SPEEDKILLING IT
>>744594938But xeno said that the new difficulty needs to be harder than extreme to actually help people get into savage
So if I'm willing to make the switch my main console and only sun there, it'll cost the same as the regular sub, right?Might as well do that for the portability, I can live without mods.
>>744595198Xeno is a bald cuck nigger who is carried by every static he has ever been in and actively made tanks worse by hounding Yoshida to change them until he finally relented. He doesn't know shit and is stuck clinging to XIV because nobody wants to watch him play any other game.
>>744595198People don't get into savage because it demands time and coordination. You will ever rarely just get a PuG and have it work if people who rarely or never do savage apply for the party finder.It's simply never going to happen.
i'll never play savage because it involves sitting in pf for hours, i already went through 9001 hours of cutscenes and you're telling me to wait even longer to get to the ride? HELL NO
>>744582416>TP>cleric stance>aggro management>tank stance dancing>bosses critting>ranged stance dancing>facing target to AA>blood 4 blood increasing damage taken>pretty sure trick attack didn't activate unless it was done from the rearheavy thrust on DRG didn't even give the buff unless you hit from the flank until 2.4 tooand all of the above on top of each job's rotationbut sure, none of those existing now and just having the current rotations, where you can't overcap because gauge pump abilities give you a separate buff and because there's fuck all to do for 90 seconds outside of burst while each fight specifically caters to uptime, is more difficultretard
>>744595574oh and no true north :)
If I use a mod that shows me the safespots like Splatoon or Bossmod, does that make raiding less stressful? Or is it more about coordination with the group?
>>744582416Look at this shit, I fall asleep pressing Broil twelve times in a row.
>>744576198is FF14 a fun solo game if I just want to play the story? I dont mind doing content with randoms when I have to, I just dont want to be in a guild or socialize all that much
>>744595286>>744595493Fucking exactly. I'm not even trying to pull the "le dad gamer with no time" excuse. I can make the time to slam my dick against the wall to prog it and eventually clear but I would rather spend my time doing something that is actually fun for me. I will feel no satisfaction from clearing a fight I was doing for weeks because I immediately think about better ways I could have spent my time.>>744595280kek
>>744595658the way i dealt with no true north as ninja was to end on the slash debuff combo instead
>>744595574>ranged stance dancingRelease MCH was so fucking kino with having to tool around your gauss barrel.
>>744595828release had a cast time for gauss/paean I think, forget if it was quickly turned off or around 3.3 when they got giga buffed and topping DPS charts as BRD was so much funstill the most kino jobs in the game's history; I'd do anything to have them backcan't believe the state of them now, disgusting
>>744592361>possibilities are endless>most of the old gear has trash textures
>>744595069server infrastructure can't handle rythm games please understand
>>744596029BRD player cried constantly about Paean. I really think if they kept BRD as mobile ranged dps and gave MCH the stance dance/pet aspect, you would have had two very different and flavourful jobs. Release AST was also really good but raid autism caused parsers to wait before a pull until the AST had Balance+AoE stored.
>>744596043Yeah, I tried checking out older gear pieces and their shitty textures are very perceptible now.
>>744576198This past year I was just thinking the Switch could use another MMO. I'm sorry for thinking that. I didn't want this faggotry.
>>744595146There's this as well, lack of communication. People are too fucking afraid of confrontation or offending someone I should say that might lead to friction. People don't know how to be 'normal' anyone in this game and simply talk, like a normal person without some agenda of trying to share their 100tbs of FF14 modded porn.
>oh no I have to walk out of the large highlighted circle myself WITHOUT an on screen timer add on telling me exactly when it's coming?! Oh the horror this is too much for me, is this kind of skill even attainable
>>744576198I said months ago that if it can hold 60fps in most content I become a switch mainI meant itcutting the framerate in literal half is pretty drastic though, why not 40-45 fps in larger scale content? 30 is actually pretty bad these days
So if I already am playing XIV on PC and I want to have it on Switch 2 for some comfy FSH action I have to>buy the complete version on switchand>pay 7 bucks additional subscription per monthand>when EC hits I have to buy that expansion as well twiceIs that the gist of it?
Do you think the devs will get rid of the fairy for sch in Evercold with the Evolved mode, because controlling the fairy is janky as hell.
>>744586330It's my favourite part of WoW. What's so bad about this games leveling
>>744596396Correct. Please look forward to it.
>>744596307Back when I started playing I would ask for directions when doing new content and let people get rekt trying to figure it out themselves a couple times before explaining stuff.Nowadays nobody even says anything anymore.
im gonna give the hoes the ick if they saw me playing xiv on the switch
>>744596413Nothing, it's the best part. Xe's seemingly one of those hopelessly mentally ill people who thinks xiv's >endgame is anything other than atrocious.
>>744596441What if I get EC for PC, log out in an EC zone and want to log in with Switch? Will the game just tell me I can't until I move to a non EC zone?
>>744596562Entirely possible. Or, equally likely, you will just sit in queue till the end of time because the small indie team that is CBS3 never foresaw or tested such an occurrence.
>>744576198Chacks the game file size. Its over 100GB and growing. Lmao! I aint buying that shit on switch 2.
>>744596404Just play WHM like all the other shitters, retard.
>>744596404I assume it will be like SMN pets now: Glorified animations.
>>744578024>that picMeanwhile, the game since ARR is more like>dragons and elves and talking trees and Darth Vader leading the Sith Empire from the seat of his Gundam
>>744597101>He thinks this means all other media must be Lord of the Rings with a BMW to match the example or it doesn't work as a metaphor.Tell me you're a retard without telling me you're a retard.
>>744597438Fino Fano is retarded like that since forever. If you don't like it, go play another IP because it seriously is hopeless to expect that kind of setting consistency in this series.Phantasy Star pulls the it's sci-fi with some fantasy tropes actually better if you want a suggestion.
>>744596820The way it should be
>>744597101>golem doesn't understand what internal consistency meansEvery time. >>744597551There's nothing inconsistent about gundams in a fantasy setting if it's established that the setting has gundams, golem-kun.
>>744595493Doing kefka ultimate in PF was the worst feeling I've ever had raiding in my 9 years playing this game. Absolute abysmal hour+ waits just to do two pulls and disband for days on end. Clearing it felt like chaining a lucky streak more than any sort of skill test and if this shit does not change in EC then Im just not gonna waste my time raiding ever again.
>>744595493>>744595789>>744598741then get a static, retardsif you have time to wait in pf you have time to make one
Would (You) play XIV on the Nintendo Switch 2?
>>744596562It teleports you to your origin city. They've had to deal with this since HW so it's handled.
>>744599258As an outsider looking in I don't get why people are excited in the first place. FFXIV is an old game now. If someone really wanted to play it they've had over a decade to do it. Why is it being on the switch suddenly making the game attractive?
>>744599028Not really because most good players already have one. Even as far as raid resumes go, mine is only middle of the pack because it took me just over 1k pulls to clear UMAD in pf, where the bare minimum to be considered decent is 700 pulls.
>>744599375having the game being portable is the main appeal i think
>>744599569That's just a gimmick that will run head first into SE's retarded loicense system and whatever fuckery Nintendo thinks up. If you want portable FFXIV steam deck equivalents make more sense.
>>744599569lmao, at this point, who is addicted enough to this game to care about being able to play portable? "I c-can't wait get home, I gotta get muh XIV fix on this bus ride home!!"
>>74459983170% of most MMO addicts
>>744599375>FFXIV is an old game now.Old games are the most popular games.
>>744599831XIV is a comfy game in parts and being in bed or on the couch doing low stakes stuff like fishing seems like a good time. However, considering how expensive it is and how genuinely bad non modded baseline XIV is... yeah I think I'll pass on that one.
>>744576198Lmfao I just tried to buy the Complete Collector's Edition and the 11$ taxes is really fucking my shit up. I was GOING to buy it today but I'm exactly 9$ dollars short and already went to the fucking ATM to deposit what I thought was enough, so now I'm just going to download the free version and buy the collector's on the last day which is August 8th. So yay, I'm going to be a free2play player for a few days as a Healer, hope to meet some of you faggots there tomorrow at 6am EST playing on the Switch 2.
>>744600120I'm noticing a distinct lack of FFXIV on that list.
I can't imagine doing Rank S Hunts on the switch 2 when even on PC the game shits itself.
>>744576198We used to play mmos at 10-15 fps in the 00s. People have it way too good these days.
>>744600359>i can't imagine playing a game without cheatingWe know, you're not the target audience.
Will they ever give us fantasia again? I used up both and regret it now.Stuck as a fucking rabbit twink. Maybe I should've gone Highlander but they got no eyebrows.
>>744600806They seem to give out a free one every time they make changes to the character creator. EC should have at least one if not more if people complain again.
Why is skill speed always cursed.
>>744600359If people could do it on the PS3 during Heavensward, people can do it on the Switch 2 during Dawntrail.Also, if you're wondering what the game looked like on the PS3, here's a video.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOREASa_ijM
>>744600368And that was ok.
>>744600120>all f2p except for minecraftshocker
>>744584423>be a cheater>complain when you're not allowed to cheat anymorewhat mental illness is this?
I played FFXIV on my Steam Deck and holding down like 3 buttons to show your 9th hotbar gets fucking gnarly real fast.
>>744601682We're talking about the Switch 2 version here.
>>744601089Because it's a shit system that doesn't work with the way job are designed. It's insane that a stat that can be forced upon you can literally break the way your entire rotation works. If you overcap on say, Direct Hit, you're not really punished. But if you get tiered into a bad GCD for your job you're just fucked, shit desyncs and you now have to work around that and know to compensate specifically for that GCD timing, which no normal player would ever how to.The fact that they still don't understand that and haven't removed it altogether is all the proof I need they're going to botch the job redesigns in EC.
>>744576603this game was made for japs with school, work, and/or a family it really isn't meant to be hardcore raiding which is what people have been complaining about for years yoship even revealed on stage with that slide only 14-20% of the population do savage high end raiding should die. Hell there's so much hard content that just collects dust for years because you cant solo it and nobody wants to bother
>>744600368This, I did Heroic Professor Putricide at 10 fps back in the day.
>>744601747Oh do the cross hotbars work completely differently on the Switch 2?
>>744601903Yea
>>744601953You sure about that?
>>744602016100%
>>744602067You're really really sure?
>>744602236I just told you
>>744602284You're positive?
>>744602401>>744602284>>744602067>>744601953
you do understand the only way to lose an internet argument is to admit it rightas such, he's going to just keep baiting you
you know that the game literally comes out in 15 hours , right?
>>744602596so would you say its imminent?
>>744602672it's blasting off
>>744595272yes, it will cost exactly the same and no need for a Nintendo Switch Online subscription , you would need to download the full game/buy it first from their e-shop (only digital) with a 117gb size.
>>744596382Welcome to the Switch fields baka this is going to be my main game until TheDuskbloods.
>>744599258100% , can't wait but unfortunately I can't pre-download it now as I am planning on downloading the free version first then updating to the Complete Collector's Edition later (before August 8th)
>>744599569You can do that on the Steam Deck.
>>744603812I can play it 4k on the Switch 2 60fps
everytime i have to travel from dynamis to ether or primal i always find the most fucking weird people imaginablewhat the fuck is going on over there
Yoshi P backtracked on the main tank/off tank!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZgQ16NWd60
>>744580897Anyone that actually plays the game will instantly know that you are rage baiting the moment you mention PF players liking to puzzle things out.No, PF players will always follow a one established thing instead of puzzling things out themselves, they are going to be constantly changing parties and playing with different people, they don't have other options.Even statics and hell even the world racers are mostly not puzzling things out.
>>744605402>ahh eto sodesuka ehhhh....ano....please rook forward to eet *raffs*Every Yoshida interview ever
>>744605402>Yoshi P backtracked on the main tank/off tank!He didn't though.
>>744606014nanii?
>>744606069>Ahh, but did we remove the RPG elements from XVI?
DT Manderville was pretty great overall
Tanked all my life and tried to test melee dps. Now even expert roulettes are kicking my ass lmfao.
if you are playing a tank in OC you are a waste of a party slot
>>744603903Oh you've done him there
>>744608710If you are not playing a tank who can soak 10 vuln stacks in that laggy bullshit, you're a waste of instance slot.
This MMO is full of troons I mean most are wow/gw2/etc but this one in particular
>>744608927>blaming lagsandbag deluxe
>portable FFXIV now has a $1,000+ entry fee due to the Steam Deck being mandatory for all the community-official pluginsIs FFXIV the most expensive MMO ever made? Buying both a PC and a Steam Deck is a lot to ask for a single game just for community-official plugins. Why can’t Square Enix release an official version for Switch 2? The only thing they’re doing is this unofficial crap that doesn’t even support basic features like bossmod, artisan, aetherphone, penumbra, etc.
>MSQ is a blatant rehash of shadowbringers>new job is anti-hype jokeshit that only quirky memeroes and lalapedos will like>50% of the MSQ is already confirmed to be inconsequential episodic filler>character creator overhaul is a nothingburger>diet-savage in a game that's already drowning in raidslop>mr "whoops all savage" ozma in charge of the new overworld>rebranded duty support being billed as a big feature>auto-pathing being billed as a big feature and yoshit even brags about how much dev time they've had to spend on it>fanbase up in arms over yoshi p whoring out the game to collabslop and not putting out original stories>beastmaster is boring as sin>north horn is a 1:1 copy/paste of the spectacular failure that is south horn>yoshit piss DODGES showing more about evolved and mumbles weakly about showing more at an unspecified date
>>744609575Don't hate on me nigga, I main PLD but been playing Goon on that shit because CEs are taking forever with 18 tanks and 3 healers.
>>744610565then you aren't a sandbag
>>744576198Why would this not be acceptable?>>744584423Addons are great, but your post is like railing against console versions in general. There are lots of prog groups in Japan that play console. There are prog groups that play across multiple devices in the English speaking world. As long as you aren't try to do a world first, there's no problem playing on the Switch version.>>744586009>virtually everyone uses plugins...for stuff like gpose and parsing. Most people aren't even doing high level content. At most, you're losing access to consistent parsing, but if you're in a raid group with a discord, you can just ask another person to share their parser output with you.>console version of FFXIV is like the Xbox version of TF2Most super serious players I know actually play the game across multiple devices. The Switch 2 version will be best for dailies, DoL/DoH grinds, story, and savage. The fact that it may not be *optimal* for Ultimates barely factors into the equation, especially because most Ultimate raid groups aren't even trying to break records.
Did they ever say anything even close to a date or timeframe for the evolved jobs changes showcase stream they mentioned during fanfest?I remember Yoshida saying that they had something prepared for that, but that it'd have to be its own thing because it'd probably be like 4 hours long. But he didn't even give a timeframe as to when it's supposed to be happening
I love time-wasting content, I want more
>>744595574>Bowmage>Cleric stance causing 90% of the healers to not touch a damage spell>STR accesory tanks>Entire jobs and even roles in the cuckshed while SCH and WAR were absurdly overpowered.>Giving almost everyone trick attack leaving to ten years of 2 minute meta.Heavensward was the only expansion I only subbed for the patches until dawntrail.
>>744610690Virtually everyone in the NA community uses plugins. Not only are you missing out on optimal rotations and callouts, but you’re basically missing half of the social experience by not having mod sync or aetherphone. No one’s going to be your friend. Also, >DiscordSwitch 2 doesn’t even have Discord VC. How are you supposed to be on a call? Your phone? Putting that shit on speakerphone? At least PS5 has built in calls so at least the game is somewhat playable.
>>744611306I still need to do that Doubled Trouble CE but it never fucking spawns.>>744611370Can anyone give me the QRD on plugins? They're like 14's weakauras? I honestly never used any and sometimes people move so perfectly during content I doubit it's just muscle memory.
>>744611370>Virtually everyone in the NA community uses plugins.For gpose and cosmetics. Yes, also parsing, but "everyone" here barely means anything because high level raid content is niche. If you're trying to make a quality assessment on a port here, then you've got to talk about the content people actually do.>Not only are you missing out on optimal rotations and calloutsThis is relevant to world first groups, not prog groups. EVEN among the Ultimate raiders, many groups are doing progs based off of guides on youtube, not rehearsing for WF.>you’re basically missing half of the social experience by not having mod sync or aetherphoneThis is absolutely not true, especially if you have friends to play with already. I have always used discord to keep up with my friends and acquaintances in-game. Social media updates can stay on my IRL phone>Switch 2 doesn’t even have Discord VC...and?>How are you supposed to be on a call? Your phone? Putting that shit on speakerphone?Sure, phone, desktop, anything. This is like any other console version. People use discord effectively for everything in FFXIV, especially for serious raids. If that group wants you to use the PC version for parity, then that's literally a use case for < 1% of the actual game population, much less raiding. The whole point of the Switch 2 version is that it's FFXIV handheld, which gets you through 90% of the content with no compromise, 9% with some compromise, and then 1% is left to the table (oh no, I can't check if I'm orange parsing Alex and Kefka, the horror)
I skipped 11 and 14, hopefully the next mmo they make is worth playing
>>744611971>Can anyone give me the QRD on plugins? They're like 14's weakauras? Nothing as powerful as weak auras, but basically unlike WoW, FFXIV has explicit telegraphs for all of its boss mechs. People use plugins to make things easier and offload mental load>dot in the middle of the screen>script to call out a boss mech (it's already on timer in the screen>PRESS THIS BUTTON INSTEAD TO DRIFT YOUR ROTOthe reason the conversation veers into cheating is because FFXIV is designed around being transparent about mechanics, and the addons that got WF a couple years ago blatantly undermined that. Contrast with DBM suite in WoW, where it's not even clear what's going on in-game without the addon telling you what to do, and even then Blizz has been trying to fix this.
>>744612212>skipped 11, the best MMO ever maderetard
>>744576198Isn't this a game originally designed for the PS3? Why can't the Switch 2 even run PS3 games at 60fps?
>>74461228711 looks like shit, if they actually made the graphics nice it might be worth looking at
>>744612212>hopefully the next mmo they makedude...
>>744612595Isn't ff14 single handedly carrying SE right now? If they made that much money then surely they will
>>744612713lollmao
As if playing with ps4 players on wifi wasn't criminal enough now we have to suffer from s2 kiddies? jesus christ why do they hate the playerbase so much? this is clearly an attempt to grab as much $ as possible. they are going to be floor warmers
>>744612713>Isn't ff14 single handedly carrying SE right now? If they made that much money then surely they willthey were during the shadowbringers/endwalker times but SE being SE started cutting budged and the game when into a recession mode and now they have a panic attack and are trying to bring people back
>no containment server for tendiesNOOOOOOOOO
>>744612514>blaming a game made in 1999 for having dated graphicsok retard, keep us posted about your terrible zoomer opinions.
>>744585908i would NOT say blm over viper in any fucking capacity loli wouldn't even say blm over fucking summoner>>744586402it's a little lacking imo but it's still fine and you can still do whacky stuff. the job's rotation has ALWAYS been easy, it's the fact that you can't do the rotation while moving that makes it tricky. modern blm has lots of tools for movement but you still need to know when you need them and when you can use them for damage or whatever.
>>744612713Dawntrail literally cut 14’s profits in half. Remember that in the future when you hear trannies saying it wasn’t actually that bad.
>>744585908i would say that WHM is the most brain dead job at least until 50 were I drop it
all this baw baw just because the Switch 2 release will unironically bring real girls to the table (girls don't play on pc, they play on the Switch 2 btw), lmfao get help.
>>744613747given the hit in performance the only thing it will do is open up possibilities for big fishing windows
>>744613747>women in mmosthis is a bad thing for anyone looking to do end game. thousands of statics will die...
>>744613747Only a retard would play XIV on switch, period.
>>744613859>>744613898time to get a real girlfriend for armpit sex boyos, you have less than 12 hours. protip: make a healer for those hello and hi sessions because this is unironically how mmorpgs are meant to be, thank you Nintendo.
>>744614039Those bitches can't even voice chat with everyone without leaving their mic streaming on phone discord because the Switch 2 is locked down and can only use GameChat.
>>744614087you want them to voice chat the whole party, instead of specifically you? why? you ask for their friend ID first, have you no Switch 2?
>>744614196I have one but your e-gf is gonna get her ass kicked from groups if she can't join a general voice chat for raids. There will be a heavy stigma against Switch 2 players in the same way there was one against PS3 players when they couldn't join voice chat.
I can't pre download unless I buy the paying version, and if I fucking buy the 20$ version now (to pre download) I have to then pay 90$ more if I want the Complete Collectors Edition, what the fuck am I supposed to do? The other option is unironically putting up an alarm at 6am and let it download while I sleep...but fuck...
>>744614351>Switch 2>raids>real girls doing raids, something you need 1000 hours to reach>game releases in less than 12 hourslaughing my ass out so much at this post right now thanks.
XIV generals allowed to say up on /v/ all day? say it aint so!
>>744576198To this day, I still can't tell the difference between 30fps and 60fps. If you care about this stuff, you are gay.
>>744614517switch 2 board zoom zoom
>>744614420Don't buy anything, the free trial goes for the first 4 expansions. That's a shit ton of content and you don't have to pay a monthly fee like you do if you buy the game.
>Graphics updates? >Um, please think of the Switch 2 players!MMO's are and should be PC exclusive.
>>744610721nope, it would be after tokyo fanfest so late november or december. Probably close to the job actions/media tour shortly before the january launch.
>>744613968>Only a retard would play XIV on switchso women?
>>744614709I have until August 8th for the discount though, I'm just going to let it download while I fuck around in the house doing neet things. I seriously want the CE extra mount and items, so I'll just download the free edition, then buy the collector's later. It fucking sucks that I can't pre download it right now though unless I pay.
>>744614739You JUST got a graphics update, retard.>inb4 um actually um uh that doesn't count
i want a range dps classso machinist or bard?
>>744614994If you really want all those mounts then go for it but if you're not no lifing, you might make those costs back up with the monthly fees. >Hitting the end of the Shadowbringers expansion from the start of the Final Fantasy XIV free trial takes roughly 200 to 350 hours of playtime.
>>744576603>The newest ultimate was a step down in difficultyWhat? FRU isn't the newest ultimate anymore
>>744615253Actually, it doesn't count because you literally can't even tell the difference in any of it unless you have before and after screenshots of the area/armor.
>>744614925>rework all 20-something jobs for the next expansion>show off 3 of them for about an hour>mention the rework for all the other jobs is basically finished but refuse to demonstrate furtherThere is no way they don't mess this up. Either half of the jobs are going to play like garbage or a bunch of jobs are going to feel like copy-pasted design within roles
>>744615375Another important aspect that I have been thinking about, I won't be able to use the mounts UNTIL I finish the previous expansions right? Because you can't just use a Mount until like level 60 right? Or am I replacing memories from another mmorpg lol?
>>744615574sorry sweety this has been debunked. the game is saved, luckybancho chart (which is now ACCURATE way to count subs) is showing a slight increase so the game is saved, you just have to give yoshi a chance you doomer
>>744615574yes, that why the talked about reborn mode, they will fuck with evolve the whole 8.x patch circle until they find something comfortable or that people like
>>744615703You unlock mounts at level 20. Level 60 was epic riding in vanilla WoW.
>>744615814>WoW mountsOh yea, you're right, I was confusing it with Project Epoch mounts. So I can use every mount at level 20, no matter from what expansion the mount is from? Excuse my ignorance and thank you so much for taking the time to teply.
>>744615574the fact that they described main tank and off tank as "main tank has defensive capabilities" and "offtank has stuff to help the party" and then showed off pld having all the same party mitigation and utility it has currently and saying bastion will also have all that idk how the fuck this is gonna unhomogenize tanks and healers which have got it the worst.
>>744615759They're stripping raid buffs from Reborn mode regardless, so they're going to have to give rDPS jobs something to compensate and of course there's no way they nail the balancing on the first try. I have a feeling job balance is going to be completely screwed although I suppose this won't be the first time it's happened and it won't be the end of the world, but with literally ALL jobs getting a rework (BLU doesn't count) I feel like the issue will compound itself>>744616261I'm really curious what they're going to do with OT/barrier healer but of course they refuse to show that either
>>744616171You can't fly until near the end of the X.0 MSQ for each expansion. You can still use it for ground travel
>>744616261Unless they show an offtank I have no idea what that split would mean.Yeah, PLD got a reaction parry/counter whatever it's called by getting hit and you need aggro to get hit more often but that isn't exactly a new thing in FF14.
>>744616171I'm 99.9% sure you can use any mount once you unlock them at level 20. I've never bought any of the CEs so I'm unsure of how cool the mounts from them are but imo Demi-Ozma is still peak. Getting him requires a bunch of effort from the 3rd expansion(and can be gotten while on the free trial). You have to do a zone inspired by FFXI to get him, but if you like old MMOs you might be interested in it. Here's the mount, in changes forms based on if you're flying/on land/ in water:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oE4A--tWtE
>>744616493>third expansionWait, it's the 2nd expansion. I'm retarded and keep counting ARR as an expansion.
>>744578024okay but the example in that image is literally Final Fantasy's aesthetic, there's been robots and shit since 1.
>>744578024holy shit you are retarded kek
>>744616420>>744616493Thank you so much, this helps a lot. I like looking cool.
>>744616384I hope that since it’s apparently the one dude doing Evolved, that he’s figured out how to keep them relatively balanced but still distinct. Will just have to wait and see I guess, though I do really wish they had shown more at EU fanfest
>>744615297it depends. Are you just doing roulettes? Machinist. Pretty fixed rotation, no RNG involved, damage output is... ok. Doing high-end content? Bard. Why? 3 words: Party. Wide. Buffs. (And also higher damage output than MCH. They got a slight buff in 7.3 but it isn't enough to put them in league in BRD)
>>744578270>Even Endwalker sticks to the tone it's trying to set.>The latest trailer undermines the seriousness of what the first trailer presented by now having a cutesy PG13 character and mascot, little wand and the change to softer female vocals.your song of hope does what again?
>>744617364Machinist is such a cucked class, man. It has Deep Dungeons going for it and that's about it. Fun rotation, cool aesthetic, but the damage is always behind the other physical ranged DPS because it can't buff.
xiv is a crafting game that is why they are adding it to switch2xiv is a story game secondcombat is third, an afterthought
>baaaaaw the Switch 2 is holding back graphicsNo it's the rendering pipeline. FFXIV will always look at iteratively better with some better armor layering, but fundamental model complexity won't change much until the next FF MMO. XIV has always valued stability
>>744618491Why would combat be worse on Switch 2 than any other console release? It runs at 60 FPS for all conventional content except alliance raids. Even ultimates and savages target 60.
I still stand by 11 looking like shit.The combat looks horrible too, no one wants to play that ugly game
>>744619435>"I still stand by 11 looking like shit.">"The combat looks horrible too, no one wants to play that ugly game">t.
I will give this game a last chance the next fanfest because for now they showed zero new content, I'm not going to stay subbed for more than a month to play sastasha again but now linked to a battle pass
>>744576198>high skill level
I'm pretty sure they are gonna change the S ranks Hunts as CEs with limited players so people can cheese them anymore.
The FFX thread died before I could beat her.Get fucked CUNT.
>>744620893i'm in favor of removing power from cartels
>>744615574>mention the rework for all the other jobs is basically finished When was this because I swear they said they are showing them all off next fanfest
>>744621296he made it up
>SHB>CU>EC>NGEthe chimp out is coming bros
>3 second GCD>"high skill level"
>>744619617Avatarfagging is against the rules
>>744615574>Either half of the jobs are going to play like garbage or a bunch of jobs are going to feel like copy-pasted design within rolesHow is that any different from what we’ve got currently?
>>744621821It's not, but the people who have a sunk cost fallacy with the game have to hype it up as if it's going to save the game.
>>744621821It's not, but the people who have a sunk cost fallacy with the game have to doom it up as if it's going to destroy the game.
>>744619435>I still stand by 11 looking like shit.
i cant wait to see my wife when i play evercold on the switch 2!
>>744622247>11 is good because 14 is badlol. is this the peak of your power?
>>744622396>11 is good because 14 is badWho are you quoting?11 is good because it's good.
Anyone ITT thinking of starting FFXIV now that it's coming to Switch 2? Even though I have a PC and a Steam Deck, I never had a particular desire to download it cause I felt the filesize might feel stifling. I guess I'm not overly worried with the Switch, since I won't use that for anything but games ever.
>>744622440then why post the comparison?
Sheeeeeeesh uncs really played this and saw nuthin wrong with it? Y'all cappin!
>>744622523XI looking good in that picture isn't reliant on XIV looking like shit in that picture. XI just looks good. The comparison is there to display the incompetence of XIV's cutscene direction.
>>744622247i love ps2/gamacube era games, they look just good enough without having to go full hyper texture on everything
>>744622876it's a very comfy balance of colors
Hey 11tard, sorry but it looks like shit.You play as a woman. That makes you a tranny. That makes you mentally ill. You are blind too. Faggot!
These games being 30fps is due to lack of developer skill. Xenoblade 2 is way more demanding and runs at 60fps because Monolith are more talented than Square Enix. Honestly that's a 2017 game and it makes FF Rebirth look like a joke still.
>>744622612and what does the ffxiv cutscene direction have to do with ffxi's graphical quality?
>>744623249sorry is this more your speed?
the netcode in ffxiv is still dogshit it makes segas MMORPG in Japan look like it has better ping in America.
>>744623373It's inferior. What are you confused about? 'XIV looks bad and XI looks good' is not the same as 'XIV looks bad therefore XI looks good'.
XI mogs the fuck out of XIV even 23 years later and it's not even close lol
>>744623538but why even bring up 14 anoni think its adoarable how you're trying to pretend you're 'arguing' in good faith
>>744623806This is a Final Fantasy XIV thread as you may be able to tell by the OP.
>>744623943gg no re
>>744624039Well you stopped even pretending you had a real rebuttal. That's progress.
>>744624090anon let me explain this to youyou just admitted you are off topic posting by talking about ff11
>literally NOBODY talking about North Horn not even a week laterThat's what I call G R I M
>>744624165i tried earlier no on wanted to talk about it :(
>>744624154Even you don't believe the bullshit you're spewing, come on now. By the way can you tell me what your post has to do with the topic? Or video games at all?
now that the dust has settled, was the dawntrail world tour a good final step for the relic?
>>744624230It was inoffensive.
>>744624230targeted endgame is content is only good when its heavensward
>>744595029>tfw we'll never have another dungeon as fun to speedrun as Brayflox's Longstop (Hard)Chainpulling all the trash into the boss rooms for ~7 minute clears was peak funFuck the content respect barriers they added to every dungeon after
Do we know what time XIV comes out on switch tomorrow? I'm almost tempted to get it but I want to see if it's an automatic login because it's linked to your Nintendo account or whatever, as well if I can use a bluetooth keyboard with it. Oh, and if it runs well enough to bother with.
>>744624165most people hate this relic but if you say anything about it you get apologists barging in SHOULDN'T HAVE SAID ANYTHING ABOUT THE ENDWALKER RELIC WE TOLD YOU SO WE'RE HAVING FUN TOO CASUAL FOR YOU? THEN GET OUTit's world of warcraft all over again
>>744576545>irrelevant game brought upMore shade thrown at the best console ever made i see
how will they add sexo with alisae if they have to appeal to nintendo?
>>744624487I think it's supposed to be 7PM JP time. Not sure if that means 6AM on the East Coast or not.
heavensward endgame ps3 footage is lost media
>>744624954I used to run alliance raids streaming from my ps3 to my vita over fucking 3G at work. It was BAD FUCKING TIMES I loved it so much.
>Oh boy I can't wait to play this slowly dying game that's been out for 13 years on a inferior handheld because... uh because sometimes I have to shit and I can't take my PC with me ok??? now I can do bothLITERALLY what is the appeal, can someone explain it to an adult that isn't a shit eating nintendie?
i admire the engagement driven anon, as there's no money for it like there is on twitter. does it for the love of the game
>>744624763wasn't talking about the relic.
>>744624230IS any relic step a good step? I feel like the only time the relic was good was Eureka, but then people complain they have to do content even though its just fates in an instance vs fates in the overworld.
>>744625383Sorry anon-kun. Only a shit-eating nintendie can explain the appeal.
>>744625805
>>744625985The eurka zones were pure SOVL and full of danger, they were beautiful all around.
>>744625985Bozja was good, doing the Bozja-specific alliance raids as a primary progression method was a good call and it's infuriating they not only didn't take lessons from Bozja but actively rejected lessons from Bozja
>>744624230I guess it was better than just "grats, you've reached the next content patch, here's your new relic for 1500 tomes" without any work needed.Still feels lacking compared to Shadowbringers and Stormblood which required you to be involved in Eureka/Bozja. The DT relic never once required you to be in South/North horn.
>>744624230It's still monstrously stupid that 99% of the relic takes place outside of the area its story is tied to, but could've been way worse and I thought Dawntrail in its near-entirety made for a good relic victory lap
>>744601381More like free to hue
>>744624230i hope they keep the only 1-time grind for the weapons, having to do the whole anime or zodiac questline all over again for other weapons is not fun, at least here you just dump your tomestone after the grind
>>744624165I haven't even started OC
>>744627458Well hop to it already, you little shit
>>744627458Why not?
>>744624230any step is fine as long as the reward is goodI do not care for an ilvl stat stick without any special skills or passives even for the fucking foray that doesnt need balancing
>>744627565I've been playing other games. I'm fucking hooked on Splatoon Raiders, man. My brain is gonna meltNumber go up
