"We didn't lose, European commission may have denied us, but we are now too big for it!">nothing happens>literal fucking crickets>games industry immediately goes warp speed on shittifying everythingSooooo what was the point of this? What did it accomplish?
>>744577298eceleb faggotry as always
>>744577298Ross was an industry plant.SKG was planned to be a failure at the very start, so it would give game companies full power to enshittify everything once it gets rejected.Pirategaming was right, sorry to say.
Games are not physical products you can "own". They are walks in the park, a ball game with your friends, a trip to an amusement park. They are just things for entertainment to pass the time.You don't gain full ownership of the park or ball game because you spent $20 on a ticket. Funny how that works huh?
>>744577816>Games are not physical products you can "own".that is very interesting, why can I own a monopoly board and hasbro can't break into my appartment once the license expires?
>>744577298The disgusting behavior of the SKG community is exactly why it fucking failed. It's just fucking gamergate 2.0. You don't just swat a streamer just because he dropped some truth nukes about your shitty movement.
It killed a guy's career i guess
Exit-scamming live servce game buyers is ethically correct
>>744577298Showing everything needs to burn.
>>744577816lmao this is a literal copypasted argument i've seen dozens of times already
>>744578042Too bad. You don't have a position of power to negotiate from. The gamer market is locked down pretty hard now, and voting with your wallet doesn't work. So the content of your argument for wanting ownership of a game will always be imposed onto you
>>744578174what did this kike mean by this
Just don't buy shitty live service slop
>>744577908Thor's doing fine
>>744577816>retard can't understand the difference between a service and a good
>>744578231"Voting with your wallet" doesn't work.
>>744577298I don't need a lawyer because I'm morally right type of retardry
The last thing we need is even more legislation and government overreach because it eventually just benefits the big players because they are the only ones that have the resources to comply.
>>744578315Works pretty well for me. I don't own a single video game I didn't want to buy. Except for those I pirated
>>744578237>Average viewers down to 10% of previous high and fallingIs he though?
>>744577816Videogames were goods, until corporations decided to change the label into "services", because that means less consumer rights to worry about. And dumb consumers traded their rights for convenience. It will backfire in a few years, once Steam starts fucking with your accounts and you will have no legak means to prevent it.
>>744577298Controlled opposition
>STOP KILLING uhhh live service Skinner boxesWait, I want them to kill those.
>>744578358We it's for... The market... Ahah.. to regulate itselfWith supply and demand and competitors! Ahahahhaha
>>744578231>Just don’t buy food with woodchips in it>Just don’t buy from companies who still use child labor>Just don’t work for company who locks you into buildingsI can do that, or I can just ask the government to regulate the markets.
>>744578487Unfortunately applies to offline games too should publishers decide to erase them from existence
>>744578476>Steam out of nowhereRent fucking free
>>744578393>/v/ doesn't know how trends workOk, so YOU won't buy a game, but 10 more players will. Then the publisher will assume their way is correct and you are the minority and not their target audience, because live service sells. And the publisher will double down even more into live service slop, until you either have no choice but to comply or stop playing games altogether.
>>744578237I think he's talking about rossHe used to have a good thing going with free abs mind paying for his other projects like game dungeon and "the movie" but it's been years since last time he did one of those and his customer base has been slowly been taken over by activists that don't really care about anything else than virtue signaling
>>744577298I mean it seemed like everything was going well and the EU was on board until>lobbyists hold a closed door meeting with politicians>suddenly the entire thing is killed stone deadCan you really get mad at a consumer movement for being murdered by the powers that be?
>>744578606Maybe if your hobby is shit it's best to do something else. I don't expect a whole industry to cater to me specifically.
>>744578545Steam is a powerkeg of consumer abuse ready to blow up in a few years, once Gabe stops playing a nice uncle.
>Guillemot personally lobbies against the mold lord to stop SKG>Brother dies in a plane crash>Ubisoft stocks in complete freefallIf they will not listen to words they will listen to violence, it always end up like this with hogs
>>744577853>and hasbro can't break into my appartment once the license expiresBelieve me, Hasbro REALLY wish they could do that.
>>744577298Mossad got to him and now he's controlled opposition that very conveniently pivotet to side of digital only just when Playstation and GTA happened to team up to end physical once and for all.
>>744578691Idk why you retards keep doomfagging about Gabe kicking the bucket and Valve suddenly turning evil. Gabe is for all intents and purposes retired from Valve and has been for a while.
>>744578739They have actually tried one time, using PMCs and fucking Pinkertons.
>>744578691Doubtful. There’s too many years of public statements and precedent. They’d get sued all over the world and lose their golden goose. There’s zero incentive there.
>>744578753Because on Steam, you have no consumer rights whatsoever. You only play videogames, because they allow you to. And if one day they decide to shut down your Steam account, there is fuck all you can do about it, because you don't own anything.You will lose any case in court.
>>744578735>heartbreaking:
>>744577298>Sooooo what was the point of this? What did it accomplish?It helped trigger Pirate Software into self destructing
>>744578751... Or, wait for it, he may have seen that physical was the losing side BECAUSE GTA was too big to fail even without dics!
>>744577298personal army shit
>>744578878False. You own the licenses.
>>744577298>Showed that every AAA title should be pirated if you really want to play them or risk them being taken awayI really don't see AAA industry endgame here.
>>744578830Steam's not going to last forever, keep that in mind.
>>744578948Either way he's a sellout and a turncoat
>>744578751QRD on this?What did Moldman say?
>>744579007That can be revoked at any time, for any reason. You actually own nothing.Which is against the law, but last time someone tried to regulate that law, Ubisoft bribed the European Council.
>>744578878>this post
>>744579014Yup and there’s public statements and precedent about that as well.
>>744577298The point was to show the system doesn't work and it accomplished demonstrating that democracy doesn't work. Will of the people my ass.
>>744579106>couple Ubisoft gamesVs>Steam‘s entire libraryYeah I doubt they’ll bribe their way out of that one.
>>744579068>"digital ownership is the only way to own"He flopped to side of licenses
>>744579121That can be changed at any time. Is that a legally-binding declaration? If not, they can change their mind at any time and you have nothing against them.Just because they said something in a random interview, does not make it legally binding.
In a weird twist of cosmic irony SKG might end up being pointless as the industry is crashing so hard that big live service projects are getting shelved.
>>744579068Basically that buying a digital license is the only way to own things aka only way to own is to have nothing.This came off the same day as Ay station announced stop to physical discs.
>>744579179They won't have to, because you have no means to sue them anyway. You'll sue them under what conditions exactly?No such law regarding the costumer digital rights have been regulated, that's the issue. Common sense and precedent is not law.
>>744579220>>744579347It’s funny to me you’d believe that.
>>744578878I don't intend to fight it in court, that's why over the years I've collected almost 30 gallons of high potency laxatives. If Gabe ever nukes my account and destroys all my games, he and his entire family will regret it.
>>744579482I don't have to believe that. That's how it works.
>NO YOU DONT UNDERATAND NOTHING HAPPENED AND NOTHING WILL HAPPENThe EU discussion is scheduled in september, OP you colossal faggot
>>744579558>myThose are his games. You are just borrowing them. Get used to this mindset.
>>744579347Very odd line of logic. A lawsuit would become the precedent for further lawsuits. The lack of precedent doesn't mean you have a case, it means you have a fresh canvas to set new legal precedent.
>>744578878>Because on Steamas opposed to? only gog lets you keep shit
>>744579572They're not paid to tell the truth
>>744579615>Get used to this mindset.lmao no, nta but i'm just gonna pirate everything and keep it for myself, stay mad bitch
>>744579068His preferred form of ownership shifted to licensing aka digital only.
>>744579559It’s funny to me you’d believe that’s how it’d work.
>>744577298suggest something else
>>744579615And he better get used to shitting liquid fire then.
>>744577298>What was the point of thisTo bring attention and donations to Ross for personal gain.>What did this accomplish It painted people arguing for consumer rights in software as insane retarded children that have no idea how anything in the world works and convinced lawmakers that such calls are to be ignored.Also it was co-opted by Bannon's ill to push vulnerable angry young men farther right and expose them to cretins like Asmongold.
>>744579329>Basically that buying a digital license is the only way to own things aka only way to own is to have nothing.And he's right. A digital you can copy, mod, move around and play wherever and whenever you want is true ownership. How disingenuous can you get? A disc that needs corporate approval to run isnt ownership. After all, if you truly do own it, why do you need Sony/Nintendo's approval to run it?
>>744579636Precedents don't work in most courts. In fact, they are only recognized in America. In every other country, there is no such thing as a "precedent". Valve can just take the case to a EU court for any reason and you can shove your precedent up your ass.
>>744577298goyim lost
>>744578614Ross chose to court chuds for quick cash, no one should feel sorry that that's the audience he's left with.
>>744579667That's the point. Steam's monopoly on the PC market is a gargantuan problem if the digital consumer rights are not regulated. So far, nobody bothers to regulate them, because that's convenient for corporations and lobbyists.
>>744578660>Post hoc ergo propter hocIt was always retarded and was never going through. We told you this from day 1.
>>744579854... And the reason you can't own anything and need a license for any of this is???
>>744579989Except that's wrong.There are regulations on digital services, you just don't know what they are.And, for the record, at no point has end user software ever been a good. Ever. EVER. Software is not a good.
>>744580028What the fuck is this ESL shit? Stop casting spells at me.
>>744579572>he thinks there's gonna be a discussionlollmao even
>>744579854Why can't you do all of that with physical tho
>>744580034Because copyright laws exist.Yes, the same copyright laws you contrarians defend and cite in your arguments against SKG.
>>744580034Why are you listening to this retard try to redefine ownership?You can own software - that's called being the rightsholder. You're talking about being an end user.Literally just google how software copyright works
>>744580074>Software is not a good.And why is that? It should be a good, otherwise it leads to a potential consumer abuse.
>>744579872Your posts are so uniquely retarded that I'm starting to think you're an ayy lmao trying to fit in.
>>744580175>Why is this ephemeral set of instructions not a goodBecause instructions aren't an object you dumb motherfucker.
>>744580086Because megacorp says you're not allowed to. To do so anyway, you'd need to break DRM and extract the digital files within, which is legally speaking, a "grey area" (read: a problem to solve when the corporation wants to)
>>744577816you are a gay retarded nigger
>>744580265>You are correct and have been all alongFTFY
>>744580170>that's called being the rightsholder. You're talking about being an end user.Those terms are defined by copyright laws, btw. Thanks for proving me right
>>744580305>They told me I was retarded, but I proved them!SKG threads are amazing.
>>744578358Lol indies aren't releasing games built on central server dependancies
>>744577298Prohibition was established after decades of activism and it accomplished quite a lot: burgers stopped being a nation of drunkards, and started being a nation of bitches to organized crime.
>>744580226What does that have to do with anything?Book is a bunch of words printed onto a page. Does this make it an object?If so, saving a software onto a pendrive will make it an object, if you follow that logic.
>>744577816You can own a lifetime license, if it is sold as such it should be honored or reimbursed
today i will remind them
>>744580442>defending copyright laws I honestly want to believe you're paid for this, because the alternative that you actually stick your prolapsed anus out for the corpo lawmakes to enjoy for free is just depressing.
>>744580568>if it is sold as such it should be honored or reimbursedBy which law?
>>744580557Anon I am not going to explain baby's first copyright to you Google it
>>744580760lmao sharty out of arguments
>>744580634nonewhich is why we're trying to change it
>>744581027So far, you are not doing great. Face it, anon. Corpo lobby is too great, you won't do shit.
>>744577298Pirate software won.
>>744580634By the most basic law that once you sell a thing, it is no longer yours.
>>744581117Ok. So the publisher/seller won't be selling you things from now on, they will just rent you the licence.Now what?Don't tell me it's against the law.
>>744581103corpo shill postkill yourself>>744581185then i'll just pirate shit like i've done for decades. FUCK corpo arguments bitch
Goyim really thought they can negotiate with jews lmao
>>744578614Ross has always been lazy with FM2. FM1 was completed in 7 years and that was with him going through a bunch of legal hell with Machinima towards the end. FM2 was started in 2017, it’s been almost a decade and he’s only at 19 episodes.
How about publishers put the minimal number of years/months a game would be available to play right next to its price tag, like for example "guaranteed playable for 2 years for 69.99 $US"
>>744581185Now you put it upfront that it's not for sale, only for rent. Go on, bitch. Let's see the "purchase" butten replaced by "rent"
>>744581513>>744581185All online retailers spell out in no uncertain terms that you are buying a limited license to use the software. They do so multiple times including on the store page and on every terms and payment processing page.This is always how software has worked since software began to be a thing.You are both idiot children.
>>744580231DRM only exists on physical?!?
>>744577298The current cope is>we didn’t want to win actually, just wanted to raise awareness Many of such posts itt
>>744581513But Steam has already done that. You are buying a license to use a game, that can be revoked at any time, without explanation. The PC cattle were so happy with the convenience, they ignored the fact they have no consumer rights left.
>you don't own shit goy and your rights end where my profits beginHopefully this gives moldman closure so he can go back to making game dungeon and talking about he movie.
>>744579787>Suggest something elseOk. Cloud gaming. At rip-off prices. So you niggers bankrupt yourselves into poverty, because you're the problem for being so wallet-happy and normalizing customer rape by corpos.
>>744581669>All online retailers spell out in no uncertain terms that you are buying a limited license to use the software.really? where do they spell that? front and center when i buy said license? cause i can't see it anywhere on steam and such
>>744581669And yet, I can run my 20-year-old retail game from a CD or physical drive with no issue without Ubisoft PMC's breaking into my house. Yet somehow digital consumer rights don't work this way. It's because the publishers designed the games in this way.
>>744581776>But Steam has already done that.>go to steam>click on a game>"Buy game"why are you lying?
>>744581965Read the EULA.
>>744581909>Where?On the store pageOn the licensing agreementOn the purchase agreementOn the confirmation screenIn the confirmation email they send youIt's not their fault that you're illiterate.>>744581942>And yet this old game without strong drm and with no enforcement mechanism for the rightsholder is different from this new game with stronger drm and an active mechanismYes, that's called a practical difference. Not a legal difference. Are you aware of the difference?
>>744577298None of this matters. Moldman is tired of helming the ship and is now crashing it to get out. >b-buh muh turncoat11!!1Yes, moldman had to do a U-turn to crash to nearest reef and that reefs name was asmongold.It's not that deep.
>>744582095So, remove the intrusive DRM?Because your argument is "we've defeated piracy, by removing your right to own anything". And that's a shit argument.
>>744580568>makes up a rule after the point of sale to take away your licensewhat now digital cuck?
>>744582197>Your argument is (shit nobody said)My argument is that the legality surrounding copyright and software hasn't changed, what has changed is the publisher's capacity to exercise their rights in a way that isn't prohibitively expensive.If you can't understand that then you're too stupid for this conversation.
>>744582183Everyone is too blind to see this. Ross has been talking about his movie for ages and now his own age is catching up to him rapidly. Also this side quest (that he never wanted to be MC of) has been eating years from his life and finances that he was planning on using on the movie.
>>744582454>H-he never wanted this burden!>He never wanted all this attention and publicity and donations and increased traffic to all the things that make him money!If you actually believe that I've got a bridge to sell you
>>744582008You mean the scrap of paperwork that nobody, not even the court, gives a fuck about?
>>744582183Is there a single service that offers digital ownership of your purchases?
>>744578660>ill buy a yatcht if you kill this bill
>>744582603no and that's the point. License of it's very nature is something that can be taken away, and that what makes it not ownership.
>>744582603>Digital ownership That's an oxymoron.
Obviously Lobbyists and big People from the Gaming Industry- if not whole Studios bribed the EU Government, like i mean this unironically.SKG is done for in the EU. The only way they can accomplish something now is if SKG should have success in US-America or East Asia.But for now Anon enjoy having an account for every random ass game and make sure to have an active Internet connection and subscription!And if the game shuts down, has Server Problems or they just ban your account? Too bad!
>>744578660Ross didn't make himself any favors by going off-script at the official hearing and blabbering on making himself seem like a retard.
>>744582732I could see a platform that sells digital "goods" that lets you sell them later once you have no use for them.I'm sure it would be immensely popular but I don't see it making much of a profit compared to selling promises like Steam and every other store does.
>>744582915>Did we jump into this without understanding the parts involved, leading to a poorly defined ask and the impression that we were just angry children and not respectable rights activists?>No. No, clearly the entire EU was bribed. We did nothing wrong and should not reexamine our positionDumbass.
>>744583090Congrats you invented NFTs
>>744582293Now we sueBut if skg wins we could keep playing with or without license
>>744582008not enforceable in court, got anything else?>On the store pagehttps://store.steampowered.com/app/220/halflife_2/point to the place where it says that
>>744583201>Now we suelolmaoyou click "agree" and do nothing
>>744577298It showed that publishers are in politicians' pocketsDon't be jewish. For example, >>744577816 is jewish.
>>744580028>NOOOOOOOO HOW DARE YOU, IF X AND Y ONE AFTER THE OTHER THEN X IS NOT THE CAUSE OF Y RRRREEEEEEThis shit doesn't hold when you've got lobbyists striking back alley deals against consumer interests
>>744583136I'm sure you don't need blockchain bullshit to have resellable digital goods. The platform providers would make doubly sure that you can't generate illegitimate copies, because that would cut into their profits.
>>744578606>pirates your game???? What now?
>>744582994It was funny watching the guy next to him despair when ross was supposed to finish reading his script and shut up but instead he kept talking like he's talking to his youtube stream members.
>>744583090You're thinking of NFTs.
>>744581776>You are buying a licenseEULAs like that have been struck down in court countless times for having illegal shit in them. They don't have severability clauses for nothing. Publishers know full well they're full of shit
>>744583405So something we already know? Wow! Crazy progress!
>>744582183>bring up asmongold out of nowherealways a good move when courting normies!
>>744577298>what was the point of this?e-celeb getting more followers
>>744583285I don't buy games with drm so I'm good
>>744582183I fucking called it from the very start.This is the industry trying it's hardest to turn this into another gamergate, so lawmakers will never pass it.
>>744583545>I'm sure you don't need blockchain bullshit to have resellable digital goods.Anon that is literally the whole point of blockchain: to create a digital "good" that is unique and fungible and cannot be copied.
>>744582183>asmongoldFunny thing I just saw him on news the other day, something about him advocating shooting immigrants "or worse".
>>744583995>Did we, the retards of 4chan, whip ourselves into a frothing retarded frenzy and thus fuck ourselves over?>No! This is someone else's fault!Dumbass.
>>744582603Yes, GoG>>744582710>>744582732Jesus christ paid shills are in full force today
>>744584063Ok but picture this.Tomorrow steam allows for reselling of their games and opens up a marketplace.You sell a game to someone, it appears on their account and disappears from yours, and it's in Valve's interest to ensure that it does.No blockchain needed at any step.I guess you could argue it's not ownership because you still need Steam, but you also need a CD player to listen to the disc that you own.
>>744578174>and voting with your wallet doesn't work.But it is working. I haven't bought anything I can't own. Are you a shill?
>>744584352>GOG>aka the store with DRM on multiplayer games>aka the store that steals your money when you say word>aka the store with games behind on patches and dlcNice self-own.
>>744584352Sell me one of your gog games.
>>744577298We lost, but it was worth a shot. All it took was a measly signature that takes 3 minutes to make and a bunch of shitposting.
>>744584063Sure but the proposed solution, the blockchain, is retarded.
>>744584367>but you also need a CD player to listen to the disc that you own.but the CD won't magically disappear when the CD player stops working. i can put it in a different CD playerother than that yeah, that'd be a nice feature on steam
>>744584424Wrong store, shill. You're describing steam.>>744584429Sure. Post your email id, I'll mail it to you :^)
>>744584352itch too
>>744584367>Ok but picture this incredibly illegal scenario that allows Steam to basically cut publishers out of profits entirelyYou tried?
I want Europe to make it mandatory to disclose AI use in vidya, and if you get caught you get raped by fines
>>744584424>GOG >doing any of thatAnd this is why people dont use AI. If you dont know enough to tell it's hallucinating, you'll embarrass yourself like this retard
>>744584565In 5 years, every aaa and aa game will have the disclosure.
>>744577298idiotic idea founded by a smelly manchild who thinks you should be fined for the grave sin of making an online game and closing it when it isn't profitable anymore like virtually all enterprise on earth piratesoftware won
>>744584514>>744584609There's a spreadsheet that lists every single game behind on DLC and updates compared to Steam.You're subhumans.
>>744584539No but someone else did and got away with it.
>>744584775none of the games on GOG are behind DRM and all of them can be downloaded with all updates at once. But sure, post that spreadsheet assuming you didnt just hallucinate another embarrassing shitpost
>>744584775Can I get a link to that spreadsheet?
>>744584906https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14haGnU2kcY6wV6ssBeyW6_mMk6kkVqZX-QvMKlgXGu0
>>744584806The way licensing on discs worked before online DRM was that the license automatically transferred to the owner of the disc rather than being an untransferable license to a single individual or account (you can't make that agreement in advance not knowing who will buy the disc), and first-sale doctrine means regardless of licensing you can sell the disc.
>>744584630Indiegods win again
>>744585007I will save this and consult it when deciding whether to buy or pirate something, thank you.
>>744585007>list of games that arent behind DRM The fact that the biggest complaint in that entire is "missing online" in a list of singleplayer games that dont need them in any capacity is pretty clear that you're a fucking idiot, like all shills that argue against GoG (aka actually owning your games)
>>744577816You can own everything. You are not smart for parroting big business lawyers who tell you that having rights is cringe. They are lying to fuck you over and the only way they get away with it is if you accept what they are saying.
>>744578739>Believe me, Hasbro REALLY wish they could do that.Yeah, and the only reason they don't is because "we" decided that that's horseshit and made laws against them doing that. If Hasbro were to install a device into their monopoly board that sets the thing on fire after 3 years we would outlaw that too.
>>744578614>I think he's talking about rossYou're retarded and should never explain anything ever again.
>Ubisoft is nearing bankruptcy and still used its money to reunite behind doors to cuck the initiativeInsane commitment to the grind
>>744585191You don't own gog games.
>>744578487>live service game bad, right?>do I fit in now?>pleace updoot me Anon, soon your car will no longer start because the license for its shitty touchscreen expired. More and more single player games are becoming online only as well. Denuvo infected games only work if they can talk with the Denuvo servers every so often.
>>744585634Tell GOG to bust down my door to take back my DRM-free installers. I'll wait.
>>744578660>Can you really get mad at a consumer movement for being murdered by the powers that be?I think it's shills.
>>744585687Try and sell your GoG games. Lemme know how that goes.
>>744585706If you were part of SKG and you genuinely think they did nothing wrong and were simply "crushed" you are part of the reason it failed.
>>744577298>What did it accomplish?"""influencers""" got views and got paid, the actual consumers got nothing, just like any other stupid ass social media movement. You are all fucking tools.
>>744577863Hi, Chet, hope you're doing well.Back to troonsky with you.
>>744585647Stopped reading after the 2nd greentext, shit eater.
>>744582183>>744583995The text on your picture says "discs are not enough, because they can just always put online DRM on them." "We need more ownership than just a physical access token". They mentioned your personal antichrist because he was in the news for saying something similar. There is no way none of you fags can read. >>744582603You download a gog installer, you own that gog installer. Which is better than having a physical disc because those can have stuff on them that bricks the game. Concord, the Crew, Diablo 3 and all that.>b-but the ToSDoesn't matter. If they want to take it away from you, they'll have to break into your house and the government will side with you if they do that.
>>744584152I think he also wanted to outlaw waffles.
>>744582183>>744584152>>744585917>>744585973>I'm sure europeon normies, that are still shell shocked by WW2 and austrian painter, will take kindly to me endorsing this right-wing nutjob constantly dog whistling actual neo-nazis!
>>744579872>in every other country, there is no such thing as a "precedent"what the fuck are you babbling about?I don't know about the other EU countries but here in Italy we have a case-law system where lawyers can actually quote past sentences to have legal grounds. Lawyers can quote past decisions, especially from higher courts.
>>744584565That disclosure stuff won't do what you want it to. There used to be laws about radio stations having to disclaim if they were playing soulless anti-art recorded music instead of having proper humans playing it live. Didn't stop people from realizing that recorded music is a good idea.
>lost to lobby and corrupt systemSucks, but he tried. People here only complain. I pirate everything so I'm not influenced.
>To fight piracy we enstablished a system where we can take away your games at any moment and only if you pirate the games you will own them permanently???What's the plan here?
>>744586194>People here only complainIt's only shills that make threads complaining about SKG. They want you to think that you're powerless when their desperate efforts to convince of that prove the complete opposite
>>744585830>"""influencers""" got views and got paidRoss would have made more money doing his videos, the other people who talked about it could have just talked about something else, you'd have to be a dishonest faggot if you think that 1 out of 300 videos they shit out per month made the difference. >the actual consumers got nothingA bunch of companies already got scared into being less hooknosed announcing offline modes for older games. Ubisoft with the Crew 2 for example. And it might even have made one or two half-retards understand that laws are what you want them to be. If enough people believe that companies fucking you over is legal then it is legal, if enough people believe that someone can get away with stealing your shit then he will be. All that's stopping you from having rights is you believing that you do.
>>744585997I wonder what he was talking about... we may never know
>>744585917>You download a gog installer, you own that gog installer.Put it up on Ebay pls
>>744586269gabe says it pretty plainly. the service of steam is worth the price for most people. i don't pirate new games because i can't be bothered to patch it myself
>>744585721Sure. Got a clip with the Cyberpunk installer here. Want it for $20?
>>744586401sure, plenty of bootlegs on ebay
>>744585973He really was in the news in Spain tho. He and few other far-right agitators were included in a bit from police about advocating violence against immigrants.
>>744586401>engage in my retarded strawmanfuck off shill. i will always pirate games and always advocate against megacorpos. KILL ALL CORPORATS
can you post a link to the discord, sisters? this one will 404 soon
>>744578735They didn't leave Ross any other choice
I think the radio silence suggests there's some legal shit going on since Ross has been pretty public about wanting to be done with SKG one way or the other since it's killing his channel
>>744577298The purpose was to give players ownership over their games and a means to keep playing the games they spent money on in a rapidly developing industry that is extremely easy to manipulate since there are no established rules on the concept of digital ownership.But because boomers in Parliament are old and retarded, they don't know how to use computers let alone regulate corporations that use them, so they tossed it out so they didn't have to think about it too hard.
>Corposhill stopped replyingI love how these rats absolutely LOATHE gog because it completely destroys their helplessness narrative. You actually can own your digital purchases, there's a provable market demand for it, and companies actively choose to not address that demand because it goes against their WEF agenda. And shills cant refute ANY of this
This was always going to be a pipe dream until they found a way to address the "what happens when the dev/publisher goes insolvent but wants to keep their IP" question because you can't really force a failing business to either open back up or hand over their materials because someone else wants to use them.
>>744586501Now do it legally and not in the form of software piracy like it’s the early 2000s.
>>744587032>nooo based ross is based and definitely in this for long haulerino because he's based based based and he doesn't care about his onion movies anymore meds meds meds!!11!!!
>>744587413It is legal, corposhill. Take me to court and prove me wrong
>>744586657This is basically honorary twitter screencap thread so it's "le /vee/ cultur"
>>744577298Maybe they shouldn't have tried to pursue their agenda in a way that would require copyright laws to be completely changed
>>744577816I own a ball and can choose how to use it. Why can't I own my game?
>>744588345corpo shill
>>744587703who are you quoting
>>744587105actually the parliament response was really supportive, some even expanded the discussion into making public archives for preservation.so even the boomers understand how this goes against consumer rights.in the end it was the commission that they cant do shit legally "at this stage".i was rereading https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_26_1369 and they say they will commit to it (never ever)
>>744588240but i need the posting material/bait
Every day epic keeps unreal champion servers online is a day of money that could be spent on further content drops for fortnite.
>>744583101You don't try to get legislation done with this type of stuff, legislation either fucks shit up, does nothing or doesn't get passed because it would be too complicated or require rewriting of existing rights (copyright in this case)You use the threat of legislation to get companies to comply with your requests
>>744588503nta but >>744582549
>>744588507Just because some parliament members expressed support to look good doesn't mean they'd have done something, skg supporters are delusional
>More than 1/3rd of the industry has been laid off with more on the horizon>component prices skyrocket and will likely kill off XBOX and PlayStation consoles for good. Nintendo is already in the process of diversifying their portfolio because they know the future of gaming is bleakAnd yet you have people like OP claim that Ross did nothing.
>>744588426I'm right, though
>>744577816Then games should be $20.
>>744588348You will "own" a digital license and you will be happy when it's taken away.
>>744577298>wasted my teen years and 20s gaming>grew out of it just in time before the industry kills itselfI owe God a few words of gratitude
>>744588740you are brown though
>>744588910>pirates gamego on, take it away from me.
