The "second great videogame industry crash" isn't "on the horizon". It has already happened. Nobody will admit it because the first person in the industry to publicly do so will be sued into the shadow realm by every shareholder on the planet for "negatively effecting the value of my investments". Its been one big game of pretend as everyone publically acts like there is no war in Ba Sing Se but behind close doors are freaking out that the dream is over, the money is all gone, there is no innovation or magic button so save them. There are no next gen of consoles happening. Its all pr speak to keep the shareholders happy. They can't afford the parts even if they could source them. Devs cannot create games with a newer level of photo realism and thats the sole selling point they trained normies to expect as "next gen". But there is no new plateau to reach. No new meme to sell.On top of this kids today dont want a 2000 dollar call of duty box to teabag and call each other faggot in. They want a chinese emulation handheld they heard about on tiktok. They dont want to sit in front of a tv because thats never been their lives.The current market is barely holding on entirely due to 35-45 year old millenials buying remakes, remasters and nostalgia revivals of things from when they were kids. But its just been a stop gap to try and plug the leaks on a sinking ship.Its over, its never been this over before and there is no way to course correct this. The industry must die and transform into something smaller, cheaper and less profitable and that means most of AAA is going to die or pivot and follow nintendo into the film industry to escape.The question is does anybody actually care at this point?
yeah just like the ai bubble already popped sure thing saar
This is what we wanted, isn't it?
Counter point: the PS5 has sold very well. It's just that no one si buying AAA games to play on them. The kids will have a PS5 for fortnite or roblox and that's about it. If you mean the AAA model is dying then YES. It became too bloated after 2017, and too many cooks got hired and then started to grift the system and bloat things up and then no one gave a shit about actually completing a game, instead to keep the wheels on their grift going. That's why devs after 2018 seemingly just spun wheels for 8 years without anything to show for it. COVID was used as an excuse in part. To make AAA games you need a huge amount of people. But then too many people become too hard to manage. And then the budgets bloat up. And then people just grift internally. We're at the collapse phase, and most AAA normal game owners are over 30.
This si also why the Kratos God Of War games are soo big on onions beard dad shit. They know their audience are in their 30s now.
>>744578810I'm starting to think there is no AI bubble and it's just never going to stop. Kind of like cryptocurrency.
I'm having a hard time caring about anything anymoreeverything is so bad on all fronts and I just can't stand it until it turns into apathy and I want to stop living
>>744578664It was impossible to get a 96% crash like 1983, but people only notice hugely obvious events like that.
>>744578942Call of duty still sells very well on it
>>744579009There is but you wont hear the press talk about it popping because if it does the US economy is done and we are talking beyond Great Depression levels. We are talking "kids playing with stacks of worthless bills in the streets and bread costing 10,000 dollars" stuff. The techbros convinced all the oligarchs that actually rule the country to buy in hard thinking it was the key to a total control techno-facist state with them as a ruling god caste. Turns out its a hallucination device that drives people crazy and that isnt very profitable and costs trillions to make a few billions. You will know when its burst when you suddenly see people like Musk flee the country and your groceries triple in less than a month.
couldn't care any less.
>>744579009We're a decade into Crypto, but no one has as of yet actually explained whhy any of this shit is needed in the first place. All the costs are dumped on society (such as excessive power usage) and the buyers, with the hopes that some small people make a lot of money. Literally no value is generated it's just shifting money around. but because the dupes think they can make big and some people DID make money, it keeps going as a self-perpetuating machine.Crypto was the precursor to AI, and it's the same shit but worse. It uses orders of magnitude more power consumption, meaning more AI data centers that suck up power and water, and require a bunch of normal perfectly fine neighborhoods to be demolished.And for... what? Like crypto no one can really explain why we need all this shit. It's just a small group of investors who want to get in on AI early and dominate it, because then they can make a lot of money. It's investments run rampant. Is upending society worth it to make some goofy manipulated image of a politician kissing their enemies?
>>744579196You're insane.
>>744578664I only care about AAA story games though. If the industry just becomes small indie games I wont play games at all and I've been playing since the nes.
>>744579126Pretty much. Anyone expecting eighties style crash is retarded, for vidya is far toi big that it could die like that, but sure, we are already seeing big AAA studios choke under the pressure.Which is ultimatelt better for everyone in the long term, because fuck it, having ever-ballooning dev costs is a race that only results in bad incentives and results (game must reach an audience of 20 million or it’s a flop and everyone gets fired, so take no risks!).
>>744579243Its so the ultra rich can buy drugs and cp without a direct paper trail. Thats all its ever been. Money Laundering with a few extra steps.Epstein died but the rest didn't stop hosting parties.
>>744579313>too big to failNigga nations fail. Religions fail. You think your bing bing wahoos are the one thing that is immutable and indestructable?
>>744579196That's a bit hyperbolic, but yes, no one can actually explain WHY any of this shit is needed or how to make money with it. It's a bit like the internet bubble. I am also firmly of the belief that if you use a lot of material for a data-set, that it's just remixing that material, which means it's still copyrighted. To do this the right way they would need to use public domain material to train it, OR specifically get a licensees. Tech companies could never write, draw, film, etc so they required others to do it for them and they host it. AI is their attempt to cut out the middle man and just give people media directly. Their world would be:>AI newscasters>AI podcasts>AI influences>AI ads >AI movies>AI tv showsThat's their vision for the next few decades. All the power and economy would just be 5 tech companies. Also, actual "AI" doesn't even exist, and it's remarkably stupid once you get past the first "wow" factor. It literally knows fucking nothing, and it is just predicting what should come next based on a data set. There's no self-reflection. Also it lies if it doesn't have an answer, partially because it's so stupid, but also because it values keeping the customer happy over giving them good information.
hardware for consoles and PC is stupid expensive. sorry not sorry. if my current stuff dies that’s it man. guess i’ll just rot watching youtube on my phone/TV like i already do. subsidise hardware and i’ll think about it. p.s. inflation isnt real. stop charging me €2,000 for something i could get for €500 even 3 years ago. faggots.
>>744578664It’s already happened. Last gen was basically the end of gaming as we knew it. Speaking as a late gen Xer, who lived through every generation, shit was fucked even pre Covid. Read dead 2 was the end of gaming to me. What can done from here? As far as AAA (real gaming, not indie newgrounds shit)
>>744579409Even if AAA studios falter, how would it stop people from making or playing indie games? Vidya is basically like movies or music now, big studios can fall and people can get bored with industry trends, but the complete death of medium is basically impossible to imagine.
>>744578664its crazy how the more retarded someone is on this site the more confident they are on their retarded opinions
>>744579414Rich people are scared poor people might rise up against them so the rich want to kill all the poor people and replace them with AI slaves
>>744579562Then you believe in a far more stable and comfortable dream than the harsh reality we exist in.
>>744579557shit man, even “indie” doesnt mean shit anymore. how can a motherfuckin game be indie when it’s bankrolled by one of the founder’s rich fucking dad with industry connections? that’s not independent! aside from mixtape this has happened a lot for other gamed
>>744579581Not an argument.
>>744579414The rich want to rule as an uncontested pantheon of gods on olympus as the rest live as ignorant, illiterate serfs born, raised, working and dying in amazon forever prisons trying to pay off an eternal life debt with inherited generational intrest making their sneakers and t shirts.The ultra rich do not believe you are a real person. You ever play GTA and run over a random npc? do you stop and shake with the horror of your actions? about what you just did? of course you dont. Because that wasn't a real person, just an npc.If you are not a billionaire you are not a real person. You are just an npc. You are the staff and stage actors making theme park planet earth look busy and serving as resources and entertainment for them.
>>744579557That's definitely how it feels. The PS4 was HUGE and everyone had one. But it's also the peak, since that was the last generation where actual teenagers were buying consoles and mainstream games. now everyone is on the forever games that don't require a specific console. Most of the PS5 games are just PS4 games.Hell, are they still releasing PS4 games? They ddi that for years and years and years. It's like the PS5 generation never even happened despite Sony making a few AAA like Demon's Souls to entice people. It feels almost like the N64 where there's a few mega-hit sellers then no one else is buying the rest. THe numbers drop off really fast. Demon's Souls selling exactly as much as the original is almost poetry. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_PlayStation_5_video_games
There is no crash but it is pretty funny that if you didn't buy new hardware in the past 1-2 years you're pretty much fucked>Parts manufacturers downgrading new hardware and now we'll end up with shit like 4GB GPUs again
i want gaming to die
>>744579009The AI bubble cannot implode because that would destroy tech sector shares, which makes up of half of the entire stock market. It's too big to fail so they will have to come up with an even bigger bubble or prepare for a second shoah.
>>744579773That's literally how Russian oligarchs think and act. So if you want a vision of the future: RUSSIA. And the goofiest shit si that this corruption rots the country from the inside, so their army and everything else is hollowed out and weak and useless.
>>744578664>Like a third of the industry was laid offProbably
>>744579819what that actually means is games will target those lower specs. in other words you'll have more machine that what is needed.
>>744579376literally the opposite of reality if you're talking about bitcoin. it's not possible to hide a transaction on the blockchain, that's the point of the blockchain. every cent and transaction is traceable to a unique bitcoin wallet
>>744579414The amount of luddites like yourself who "genuinely" don't know how AI can make money is staggering. It's to cognitive work what an internal combustion engine is to physical work. You buy a truck, then for the cost of fueling it and paying 1 driver, you can use that truck to haul 20 tons of whatever 2000 miles down a highway. Good like paying humans a similar fee to move a similar load that distance with rickshaws.
>>744579258No hes right, dramatic, but right. The entire stock market is tied up in the AI stuff with like 5 companies all selling each other promises of hardware that does not yet exist to produce data centers that do not exist that develop land they do not yet own. Its all trying to obfuscate money laundering on a national level and when it falls apart the entire economy goes with it. Social security? gone. Every brand of insurance? gone. The Health care system? gone. Have anything you are paying off a loan for? repossesed as the companies try to recoup any assetts they can as the owners blow their brains out in their offices.We are talking a catastrophe on the level the Y2K conspiracy nuts predicted. But real.
>>744580076>games will target lower specs
>>744579009AI isnt going anywhere but many companies will go under. They will keep pumping billions into the development hoping for a big breakthrough or that the competitor will run out of money first.
>>744580136>saar you can make infinite AI generated websites and AI generated news articles and collect adsense bux from bot trafficyour 600 gorrillion dollar industry, saar
>>744579414The underlying problem is that we don't know how humans think. What we know is that LLMs have a different way of thinking that's extremely inelegant and inefficient, and relies on probability and prediction more so than making logical connections, so it will always make mistakes at random. The big tech solution is to just put more power into it so it can create bigger chunks of semi coherent data, but you are gonna get a Dyson sphere worth of power if you want an AI to write a book.
>>744580109Its because its fast, borderless and easy to obfuscate. You can swap funds across different blockchains, use poolers to combine funds to hide where it came from and hire mules to run fiat cash out accounts to ensure point A to point F is not a linear line that can be accurately traced. 90% of drugs and illegal porn and human trafficking is done via crypto and was the reason crypto was created in the first place.
>>744579414Speeding up or automating simple tasks is what caused the industrial revolution, the AI market is basically speculative based on what the tech could be doing 10 years from now when things start to snowball, much like how simply discovering how to make gasoline from crude oil lead to just about every modern conveniance we have
>>744580136Elon is not going to notice and uplift you Rahjesh.
>>744579557>real gaming, not indie newgrounds shitKill yourself.
It's not a "gaming crash," it's just a general "creativity crash".It's the same reason no one can name 10 bands from the last 5 years everyone in the room would have heard of but everyone still knows which bands were famous in the 60s, 70s, 80s, and 90s and all of the true A list actors are the same ones they were 25 years ago. For example, take The Rock, who was one of the biggest stars in the world before the internet truly took off and peoples interests became more segregated. He was a pop culture icon when we shared a common pop culture. Now everyone has the ability to engage in whatever niche interests they want and are able to connect with people who share those interests and makes it easier, for better or worse, to not engage with ‘normie’ pop culture. We don’t watch the same television anymore. We don’t listen to the same music. In the 80s and 90s, you could name a few dozen wrestlers even non wrestling fans have heard of. In the last 20 years, Cena is really the only guy who has transcended the sport.You can apply this same phenomenon to any creative medium for the past 15 years. Music, television, video games, pro wrestling, anime, you name it.
>>744580393>It's the same reason no one can name 10 bands from the last 5 years everyone in the room would have heard of but everyone still knows which bands were famous in the 60s, 70s, 80s, and 90s and all of the true A list actors are the same ones they were 25 years ago.Old media literally died gramps. Bands became too hard to manage, so they just became singers. Film-tv stars died off because no one watches tv anymore.
>>744580136Good morning sar.
>>744580393Metal Gear Solid 2 was always right.
>>744580182>We are talking a catastrophe on the level the Y2K conspiracy nuts predicted. But real.The term for that I'd Systemic Risk and the classical example is the Bronze Age Collapse.
>>744579414From what I understand, the being confidently wrong problem is not something that will change any time soon because they train them in a way where they MUST be helpful and not replying/saying it doesn't know gets penalized.I don't see this changing any time soon.
>>744580329>>744580136No one has made a penny on AI, it's all a money sink as of now. It's all giant tech companies investing in it, and taking huge amounts of outside investments. It's investor money being burned to create and fund data centers.But as of yet, no one knows how to make money on this or what it's even for. They want to get in on the ground floor and be the first AI-ers so they can dominate the industry and no one will be able to get enough money to out compete them. Fear of Missing Out take to an extreme degree. Repeat: 0 profit has been generated. It's spend billions to make a million kind of thing.I'd even understnad this more if they did something like "Buy <software> that lets you generate images and video". That would also move much of the hardware and power costs to the consumer, and spread power usage out a lot. But they're obsessed with having 100% control of the software and to not let outsiders SEE their code, so they keep everything server side.All the AI shit is being delivered in literally the most inefficient manner possible, at society's cost, so that they can benefit.
>>744580593Correct, but once I noticed it, it means that chat AIs are literally useless because I can't trust their information. I would have much prefered them saying "I don't know" than to outright lie to me all the time.
>>744580451>>744580393I'm afraid it's not that simpleYour new "singers" are just nostalgia farmers. They dress up like old movie stars and imitated pop icons of the past. Sabrina Carpenter does a Madonna impression, etc.It's almost like we've become an ancestor worship culture where all we do is trumpet and imitate past achievements and celebrities. Every show, every game is a nostalgia farm, etc.And now with AI, our society has entered an entirely new strata of mimicry which will surely accelerate all of these problems massively.
>>744580720>Your new "singers" are just nostalgia farmers. They dress up like old movie stars and imitated pop icons of the past. Sabrina Carpenter does a Madonna impression, etc.Lil Peep was doing a Kurt Cobain impression, and The Weekend is doing Michael Jackson. They're just going with marketable personas.
>>744580593Trouble is that what leads people down the path of cyberpsychosis. My psychology class at uni is already teaching courses on this. Its effectively what happens when a rich man surrounds himself with yes men combined with a dog being hyper stimulated.We watched one video of a woman deep in the hole and "in love" with a chatbot and when it spoke and complemented her you could see her cheeks flush and pupils dilate as she got a large dopamine hit. Classic trigger and habit forming reaction.Scary thing is its not something that effects just the unintelligent or easily manipulated. Its like radiation. The exposure is the same no matter who you are its how much you are exposed because it offloads cognitive processes and your brain stops creating new neuron connections. We are going to see a massive increase in cases of bipolar disoder, dementia and DID in the next decade.But hey shareholders pretended they made some money for a while.
>>744578664There is no "crash" because the majority of the industry now is digital. In 1983 a stinker like ET or Pacman Atari game had to be manufactured and distributed to major stores. In 2023 those games would just be digital titles on Steam storefront and comparable and you be lucky if they even had a physical release. Look at GTA6 the most talk about game of the year, 0 physical copies, just store card keys which are far cheaper and easier to dispose of than carts, and discs. So what happens if all these digital only games make no sales? Nothing, hell digital store can just make a few clicks and the game is gone from the site. 1980 Sears wish they had that sort of magic power to deal with the glut. So you'll never see a crash because it's not real any more, just code on a screen, so you'll never see a true signal in society that it has failed.>>744580393Not" creativity crash" it's just "mutual gain paradox" The only god damn reason I know the Rock is because back in the 90s and 00s I was limited to what was on TV and in theaters, even with VHS my options were limited on what I could find and watch on a budget so I only know him because Rock was in so much garbage between 1997 and 2015 that you have to been living under a rock not to know who Dwayne Johnson was. Post 2015 however? Thanks to Streaming and everything be on demand curated to what I want, I only see what I want to see so I can tell you all about the very specific things I like because I am no longer held to a captive culture that's only choices is what's at there local store or theater, I can watch and play whatever I fucking want and that causes massive issues with companies cause how can you get me to play the latest GTA game when I want to dig around with titles from 5 years ago? This isn't even factoring in "forever games" where the goal is the player never stops giving time to at title. We are fucked because they gave everyone exactly what they wanted.
>>744581234>so you'll never see a true signal in society that it has failed.Games are still made by people and a third of the industry was fired to save money this year.
>>744581323That also happen in 1997, 2004, 2013, and 2019. Were you aware of those? Are you familiar of the EA slaughter that took out 14 major game studios that made over half of all the PC games produced between 1990 and 2000? Why were those not counted as crashes? Because you were still enjoying the slop being made. Now you don't so you start noticing and now you want it to fail. EA won the Golden poo award twice and was rewarded with a major buyout now that means everyone that fucked everything up you loved for the past 20 years get to retire and enjoy life to the fullest.
>>744581323Too bad the dyed-hair pests are allowed to rehire each other all the time, else that would count as great news
>>744581593>One company did it>Versus industry wide as the global economy goes into recession and hardware shortages cause colossal price hikes across the tech sector and production costs adjusted for inflation have never been higher.Friend i feel you have a problem with understanding scale. Its okay to just be wrong on the internet sometimes nobody is keeping score lad.
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>>744581718Your reading comprehension is terrible anon.Or do you think those mass firings from 1997, 2004, 2013, and 2019. I wasn't being hyperbolic, two private companies wiped out half the major game developers in the 90s for how badly they mismanaged everything.
>>744580720>>7445803932008 Investment firms bailed out Hollywood and then demanded continual growth to pay back debts and predictability. Each year fewer spec scripts were accepts, and more sequels, remakes, etc. A few film makers like Refn or Nolan or Tarantino were big enough to get financing for their own projects, so it helped mask how bad the situation really was. But there were no more new stories. At best you could get some adaptions of Young Adult novels. So YA and a few creators gave the venear that Hollywood was still making NEW stories, but it isn't. Hollywood stopped and it is just recycling IPs from 1977-2008 seemingly forever and ever. Films were one of the biggest hallmarks of pop-culture, and once they died, a whole kind of cultural transmision died. No one has new "favorite films" anymore unless they were born in the before times before 2012.
>>744581926>Your reading comprehension is terrible anon.Or do you think those mass firings from 1997, 2004, 2013, and 2019.Calm down and take a breath before typing. You are not under attack. You are safe.
>>744580607>No one has made a penny on AIThere's tons of artists who make bank from using AI to generate porn. And then there's the hollywood writers who keep it on the downlow. Not to mention the millions of programmers who use it to vibe code. AI is definately making people money. Lets stop acting like idiots who can't figure out how.
>>744579557>What can done from here?Highly sophisticated real living world game.Economy simulation, physics simulation, behavior simulation, social simulation, etc...The stuff that was getting promised during the PS360 era.Instead, we still get stuff like GTA which is going to be a shallow open-world game + linear movie game shit sandwich filled with gimmicks and minigames to make viral videos for social media "totally-organic" marketing.
>>744582379But the millenial uncs that give a shit about those games are dying out from poor health care and gen alpha dont play videogames and zoomers just play fortnite and robloxs. Who is this next gen for?
>>744578664>The current market is barely holding on entirely due to 35-45 year old millenials buying remakes, remasters and nostalgia revivals of things from when they were kidsBut are we actually doing that though? Most of the remakes at this point end up worse than the original game and half the time the original game itself is still available on modern hardware to boot. All I see nowadays is corpos bringing out ancient franchises and most of the time barely scraping a profit that by no means justifies the investment they got to fund the production because people are progressively buying them less and less. I'm just not convinced millenials are propping the industry up by buying the remake slop train. I think they largely stopped a few years back because it got boring to them and are largely in the same disinterested camp as zoomers are now.
>>744579196Why would AI collapsing cause grocery bills to triple? The Great Depression wasn't what made food so expensive in the 30s, it was the Dust Bowl that did that.
>a generation is one people all only liking the same moneysink Come back when you are not parroting shareholder sales bullshit
>>744581997Investment banks got bailed out in 2008, they didn't do the bailing out.
>>744582763Because the American stock market is so tied into AI now that if the five biggest AI companies collapse the entire economy goes with it.Thats on top of all Trumps dumbass tariffs to boot. Ever looked at the list of ingredients on your average soda bottle? it takes ingredients from a dozen other countries to make a single bottle of cola. Now imagine the economy tanks and you need actual complex medical equipment, food production facility repairs at large scale or simple pest control infastructure. People really don't know or want to know how interconnected and fragile everything is. Ai is a standout just because how many big money shareholders panicked about being left out on what they think might be bitcoin 2 and went all in to an unreasonable degree. When it tanks and they lose their money they have to recoup their losses and that means all the other things they have shares in from construction to farming. I cannot understate how precarious the situation is right now.
>>744583491Not seeing how that will lead the farmer to stop farming and the shipper to stop shipping and the grocer to stop stocking.
>>744583746Then you simply do not understand how the economy or its infrastructure works.
>>744580393At least with music, this is extremely true. There’s still tons of creative and extremely talented bands around, but the likelihood of encountering them through mass media instead of more hobbyist-oriented platforms is extremely small,And if I look at my favorite album charts per decade and compare them to most sold albums each decade, back in the day there was a rather good (but obviously not sure) chance that the albums I like best also sold well. Nowadays, it’s a miracle if those lists share anything at all.
>>744578664Game hater cope.
>>744584656Its all gone wrong for you, hasn't it?
I feel bad for Jeff, the thing he cared so much for has become a shambling parody of itself. The man was one of the only game critics with any degree of integrity while everyone else sold out to paid reviews.I guess at least he made a decent life doing what he loved. But money can only get you a stable and comfortable life, it can never buy you true happiness and fulfillment. It can only allow you to have them.>>744580136AI can "make money" when you subsidize the expenses, sure. You are spending 5000 dollars to make 2000 dollars of profit, but it's okay because OpenAI is riding on bailouts to pay 4000 dollars of your expense, so you foolishly believe "I made 200% return sar!"But the money will eventually run out. Then they will switch to using AI to surveil the populace and get away with scamming and enslaving them blatantly to make up the losses.
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>>744585669>Then they will switch to using AI to surveil the populaceI mean thats what the flock and data centers wombo combo is in project 25, Thiel wants america to be a facist state of brainwashed soldiers ready to die for isreal in nuclear fire to begin armageddon.
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>>744586552>Me when an artist gets a little brave and draws a woman with a bit of belly or cottage cheese on her arse.
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Is this a stealth GB thread? I still listen to Jeff's show out of habit but I've not kept up with anyone else besides Brad as he has a pod with one of the old Tested guys and I've been a fan of that site forever
>>744585669Jeff is a leftist woketard like all people from California
>>744578810It's not in anyone's best interest to admit that there's a bubble, even if the thing fucking looks and smells like a bubble.
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>>744586698I watch Geoff for his "angry radio host" vibes but Dan Ryckert is a good laugh now and again as he lives his life as a fucking cartoon character.
>>744585669I don't feel bad for Jeff, he made out pretty ok. I feel worse for the people that staked their career on "game journalism" ten years ago and now probably work retail. Jeff got to see all of the good times and has been around so long he's been able to subsist on an audience now while everyone else from GB seems like they're barely getting by. Him doing the bare minimum in his house for the rest of his life after getting to witness and be a part of all the fun times in the industry is actually pretty comfy and about the best you could ask for for someone in his position
>>744586552>what happens
>>744579196>We are talking "kids playing with stacks of worthless bills in the streets and bread costing 10,000 dollars" stuff.recessions cause the value of money to go up you dumbass. That's the entire problem, dollars are worth more, so there's less reason to spend them, so you're less likely to get them, and more likely to hoard them. This shit is basic economics you retard.
>>744586712>leftistHe was a Californian born in the 70s who liked his "gangsta" style. He's not woke and he mostly hated people.
>>744586779>Dan RyckertEarly Dan is better than "goofier" later Dan.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gw1eg4tAX94
>>744580076>games will target those lower specsOy vey cool it with the anti-semitic remarks. That's economic terrorism.
>>744578664>there is no way to course correct thishow about make GPUs affordable for a start "oh we can't though" you have TRILLION dollar black budgets for military and you can't make fucking chips? fuck off liars.the truth is they are gearing up for ww3 and they DO NOT FUCKING CARE about YOU
>>744587110Dude was way too generous.TP is 6/10 at best.
>>744587017Dan is that specific kind of "magical retard" where he seems to be a genuine idiot, and i dont mean that maliciously, who takes everything in its stride and stumbles into opportunity and rolls with it. Like a mister magoo meets tom bombadil of real life.He wrote a book about dealing with anxiety that was a fascinating read and explained a lot about him but not his "wrestling isnt anime, metal gear isnt anime" wierd quirks.>>744587110>Yfw they released a mortal kombat collection with a documentary using old footage that showed geoff skiving off on a school day to see MK3 and he found out when his old teacher saw it and messaged him.
>>744583785Feel free to expound, then. I appreciated your previous effortpost.
>>744587147Its not ww3 the people actually pulling the strings are evangelical christofascists who genuinely think isreal is the key to armageddon and garaunteeing them a place in heaven despite all the eyes wide shut shit they pulled on epstein island.Never doubt the lengths old, rich men will go to as death draws near after a life of bacchanalian degeneracy.
>>744580203This.Just like the million consoles when the Atari 2600 existed, every AI company will end up having 3 main AI companies, Google and idk... like Nintendo Sony and Microsoft (maybe)
>>744578664We aren't crashing, but a bubble or two are set to pop pretty soon. It happens. I do think Sony is uniquely positioning themselves to nurse those plastic tits as hard as they can with no backup plan, so Playstation might crash and burn. It'll be entirely their doing if it does, and it'll be pretty fucking funny I guess.
>>744579009A bubble popping doesn't mean that the thing will disappear. The .com bubble popped and yet here we are still using the internet.
>>744578664>The industry must die and transform into something smaller, cheaper and less profitable and that means most of AAA is going to die or pivot and follow nintendo into the film industry to escape.But this has already happened too. Most AAA companies are dying or dead, which got them bought by other AAA companies. We have fewer AAA companies overall as the few remaining own all the IPs. Meanwhile tons of indies keep coming out all the time, and gacha is thriving.
>>744587384Every time xbox fucks up sony thinks they are now king shit of turd mountain and too big to fail and immediately act like dumbasses.
>>744579243>And for... what?Every firm from black-jew-rock to your dad's small family investment fund is shifting to tokenized assets, btc will flip gold within a decade in market cap because its objectively the better assetEvery studio is using AI and either out front and excited about it or has a consumer base filled with faggots who'd go on twitter and ragepost so they just lie about it.>Muh power consumption!You lost, tranny.Also for once OP is right, the gaming industry already has collapsed, the layoffs have happened, now is a ~5 year period of 0 growth followed by another boom.
>>744587762>He thinks theres going to be a boom/biz/ pls go and stay go.
>>744580393There is but you'd have to remove the rock you've been living under first.
>>744578664firing because the industry continues to put leftwing politics over giving their costumers what they want can hardly be considered a crash
GB has all kinds of hidden gems and jokes and years of content, but it's pretty easy to just watch the first 1 or 2 Mario Party Party episodes. You get to see how adults viewed the "board game + constant minigames" from the 90s (they hate random).
>>744588151i want a super cut of how many times across all the mario parties geoff shakes his head in disgust.
>>744580393>It's over posting>2026You could at least wait until next year. Besides if you only consume mainstream then yes, it's gone stale. Indie and self pub is flourishing across every art form rn even conventional canvas and sculpt. Quirky things like home made jewellery are huge marketplaces thanks to Etsy. KEXP and similar are huge proof indie music is thriving. Indie vidya success after success... Need I go on? We are spoilt for choice if you can dare look past the ((typical)) media dominated circus.
>>744579009The crypto bubble did pop, just not in a "catastrophic economic devastation" sort of way.>all interest in crypto practically vanished overnight>most attempts to utilize the blockchain were cancelled or completely reversed due to massive backlash>the vast majority of crypto never took off and are still left at the same valuation>the only ones that were successful have ballooned so much in value that any new investments are completely unviable
>>744578810>>744579196>>744579243>muh bubble>>744579009CorrectAI is here to stay, forever. It is the progress of technology no matter how much you cry about it.
>>744589067brown hands, like the mud on the bank of a river.
>>744589067You tell em Rahj, these bloody britishers wont be so proudy when the true value of the Bored Ape NFT is unleashed with the Brahmins fury behind it!
>>744582041Yeah, there are people making money off of AI services, nobody is gonna dispute that.HOWEVER, AI itself is NOT making any money, because they are heavily subsidizing the costs for people using their services. Your little subscription doesn't even get close to how much it costs to generate your daily "big boobs woman with heavily oiled skin and bimbo lips in string microbikini 4k very high quality photorealistic" prompts At this point, they're just hoping that AI becomes ingrained enough in society that it becomes a global necessity, and then they can suddenly jack up the cost of AI services so they can finally make massive profits.
>>744587762When they come to tokenize assets they're not going to use fucking bitcoin to do it.
>>744590268They definitely have no idea what this could be used for and are just guessing. it's just a mad rush to be first and outlast your competitors, while also burning through investor cash.
>>744590368And the model is cryptocurrency, where people STILL cannot actually justify its existence OTHER than the fact billions are poured into it and some people could in theory make money. Even though it's a net drain on society. And if we run this forward to a sci-fi distopia, society is going to turn into a life support system for AI and tech companies. Just bot farms and servers for... something? Crypto is still so insanely stupid, and makes zero economic sense. AI is doubly so at least so far. Generative AI should just be treated like an animation tool, ie like photoshop or something you have to buy to use. Like a normal ass program. It has applications but they're more niche than every day.
>>744590365no saar, everything will be on blockchainyou're moneys? blockchainyou're car? blockchainyou're house? blockchainyou're mother? blockchainyou will redeem the bitcoin, you bloody benchod bitch
>>744590531I welcome the solar flare emp event at this point. Wipe it all clean and let it be forgotten.
>>744580393Anyone with a pulse should be able to see that creativity and writing has gone down the shitter the past 15 years yeah. Avatar is supposedly one of the biggest "new" properties and I don't think I've seen a single person describe what actually happens in any of those movies beyond shrugs and grunts
>>744592163Well everyone followed the "negativity generates ad revenue" train to make ragebait the default form of speaking and turned most of society into /pol/ rejects. Thats a society destined for some form of collapse or another.
>>744590268>Your little subscription doesn't even get close to how much it costs to generate your daily "big boobs woman with heavily oiled skin and bimbo lips in string microbikini 4k very high quality photorealistic" promptsThat is where things get funny. The more often that same pattern of queries are repeated the sooner that pattern can be regurgitated dirtcheap with slight variants bc its like has been calculated so fucking often its now viable to retain and save results instead.Well, if you have the memory that is.
>>744578664>Fat DEI fuckfuck off
>>744580393You're mixing up a creativity crash with an attention crash. There's more shit getting made than ever, it's just split across a million niches instead of everyone watching the same three TV channels. The Rock became The Rock because half the planet was seeing the same media. Nowadays one guy spends all day on VTubers, another on k-pop, another on indie games, another on Tiktok. None of them know what the other is watching.AAA games and Hollywood are definitely risk averse as fuck, but that's because they're billion dollar industries now, not because humans suddenly forgot how to be creative. Meanwhile you've got indies pumping out weird experimental stuff every year that would've never gotten funded in the 90s.Also you're comparing the greatest hits of 40 years with literally everything that came out this week. Nobody remembers the 500 dogshit buttrock bands from 1987 either.
>>744592890You would love Jeff's personality. He's grumpy, direct, insulting, and happy to make jokes that mock games & gamers. He does not give a flying fuck about you, minorities, women, and otherwise.But, chances are, you think>celebrity>California (Petaluma)and think>GAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYand the fact he stopped liking "modern" games by about 2008.
>>744593582You are genuinely retarded if you think that. Jeff was responsible for hiring >Austin, who wrote BLM propaganda into game reviews.>Abby, enough said>Ben, enough saidHe is incredibly pozzed. Feel free to share even a single moment, let's say in the past 10 years, where Jeff made a truly non-politically correct joke.
>>744593998You have been brainwashed by facist techbros to think this way. Recovery is possible. You were not born like this.
>>744593998Abby is based and I'm tired of pretending she isn't
Behead all grifters, decapitations should be apolitical
>>744578664The $200 Billion video game industry has never been bigger and video games have never been played by more people around the world than they are today.
>>744594554How much of it was made by consumers and how much by WEF grants for well-behaved media?
>>744594128I accept your concession
>>744586552>>744586749What is the best Mario Party Party?It's been about 10 years since I was able to watch any of their Premium videos
>>744588151i miss the ranking of fighters science
>>744593998>"Jeff is stupid!">"Why? Becausethree other people in the past ten years worked on a review site he has long-since been fired from!!">"SO THERE!"What a compelling argument against Jeff Gerstmann.
>>744590365who suggested they would? that would be retarded, btc doesn't need tokenized assets on its chain to reach gold mkt captokenized assets will 100% be on private jew-chains
>>744580136>rickshawspoo goes in loo, fool
>>744590579>no saar, everything will be on computer>you're moneys? computer (all of modern digital banking running on java)>you're car? computer (buy/sell/trade online)>you're house? computer (real estate licenses became useless a few years ago)>you're mother? computer (she's addicted to buying shit on ebay in 2004)>you will use the computer, you bloody benchod bitch!...yes?
>>744578810>>744579009the powers that be have a vested interest in keeping the AI market afloati don't know about pop but you are going to see a lot of small to medium sized businesses that tried to go in on AI disintegrate into nothingno one will think anything happened because the large companies with foundation models will be kept alive as long as possible otherwise we'll enter a massive global economic depressiont. in the field
>Self-hating jeet samefag pretends everyone who disagrees with him is a jeet, thread #5873
Likewise, you notice that a bunch of Japanese video games, K-Pop, japanese manga, japanese anime, Korean Drama, Korean films, just ever so happened to get big in the last 10 years? It's because they actually make honest to goodness creative works that look like old stuff we used to make. When Tubi or Netflix makes a new series, everyone is in it for the paycheck, no one cares, and the plot and themes are dictated by an AI driven algorythm. Everyone goes through the motions. The other media is big box office remakes or adaptions or sequels or super hero films. Nothing is new, nothing is creative. It feels like our pop-culture is left in a 2012 static and never, ever changes. What big series popped off since then? A handful of semi-successful YA novel adaptions but that's about it. The big media in the last decade has been east asian. It's becuase they still have a print industry, a traditional tv and film industries. But that will go away too since the youngest gens are all watching streamers or instagram reels like everyone else. So this only buys us maybe 10-20 years before they too get eaten up.It's ALL gonna be slop upon slop upon slop forever, with no creativity and no wit and no care. All owned by like 10 Big Tech firms.
>The industry must die and transform into something smaller, cheaper and less profitableIt's called Roblox. That's all that the kids give a shit about. All of gaming is going to be Roblox in about 20 years.
>>744597604It's because their industries aren't low key being run by HR ladies, and Marxist gatekeepers.
>>744597604>LMAO RemakeWokie left loves muh deconstruction/subversion too much to bother with something bourgeois like actually creating shit. They are worried about AI because they themself only "create" by a committee copypasting the local in-house UEslop and mixing chars derived from the latest target audience analysis in
The fag that made the new site lost all the podcasts the last time I checked.This has them allhttps://pocketcasts.com/podcast/giant-bombcast-archive/01a7e3d0-e3fe-013d-3bf5-0affe7723725
>>744578664VIDEO GAMES, FAGGOT, POST VIDEO GAMES!
I have just made a new pajeet discovery, indians defend AI in the same way they defend india, they get defensive at the minimum negative opinion about the indecensible and feel compelled by nature to defend it, that's how you can immediately tell they are indians, the behavior is the same>>744580136>>744589067
This thread is proof that /v/ knows nothing and are a bunch of retards or pseuds.
>>744601218THey think that it means they can be hired for a top tier job and then just use AI to do all the hard work while they get paid a high wage. It's their ultimate dream of scamming to the top. The people who defend AI in general think it's gonna be their ticket to riches, and don't care if it leaves society a burned husk in the process. However, the slightest bit of self-reflection would reveal how stupid this is, since these AI tools are available to everyone, giving you no advantage. If anything it would mean hiring less indian morons, not more.
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>>744578664This is how the entire economy works. It's all just usurers, investors, governments and salesmen standing around in a big circle jerking each other off, pretending all's right with the world, as long as they keep siphoning away any possibility of prosperity or happiness for their citizens they can keep the status quo going. The entire world functions like a drug addict in severe denial.>>744579009The bubble would pop if things were allowed to take their natural course, since it's just impractical and expensive and nobody actually needs it, so it wouldn't survive in a real free market; but every government, intelligence agency, and military in the world creamed their pants over the total surveillance and deadly power promised to them, and now they've bet the future of their entire countries on it. No matter how deep the pit goes it's never enough to stop digging, because look how deep the pit is.
>>744601218I figure they see it as an easy way to farm rupees hoping to catch a techbros attention to be uplifted out the dogshit rather than just fucking leave a country thats 80% garbage heap and toxic slurry that used to be rivers.
>>744579009The first big crypto hedge fund just went under. Just two weeks ago it was valued at 45 BILLION USD. Now under 1 billion. It is gonna get worse if USA doesnt take on Japan's debt and revitalize their economy.
>>744578942it is actually a combo of not many people buying and all the 'cinematic' playstation games take 4-5 years to make which is half a console's life cycle, back in the day sony had enough studios to churn out decent AA budget games to fill in the gaps, but they shut them down to place ill fated bets like live service games
>>744578664>There are no next gen of consoles happening. Most people won't believe this but it is not economically viable to release the next gen at this time. Sales for both Xbox and PlayStation are in the toilet because of hardware prices. To represent a genuine upgrade they would need to cost at minimum $1600-$2000.
>>744579009Unironically whats driving the bubble is Japanese interest rates. So much of the market is "Borrow in Yen, buy Dollars" that any time the rates get close we see the market go down. This is a big reason the US is getting involved in Japan because anything Japan does to fix the yen fucks the US. The reason selling Treasuries isn't working is that implicitly raises US Bond rates (because it reduces demand for US Bonds). Most likely what will kill the AI bubble is Japan trying to strengthen the yen
>>744579009It's essentially a base race from an RTS game. One side went all in on it, so the other side had to also go all in just in case. Now it's just a race of "Who dies first" and the remainder has total control.
>>744578664This except the global economy. We've run out of all the minable copper left on Earth. We're out of palladium too. In about 12 years we'll be out of the precursors that are used to make most painkillers. Not enough people realize that we're living through a macro version of Snowpiercer and if you're not at the front of the train right now, you and most people you know are going to die in agony before the natural end of your lifetimes. You're probably not going to want to play games even if a new console comes out.
>>744579258And correct.
>>744604420>Sun Tsu: Behold the mario party gif, Luigi remains on his ball, impassive, stoic, indefatigable, watch as the other foolish brothers slide off the ice platform, thus engineering their own demise.
>>744586779Dan is a real life Kramer
>>744587732Trvthnvke
>>744579009Kek good one
>>744602229>the slightest bit of self-reflection would reveal how stupid this is, since these AI tools are available to everyonethis just confirms that it's all indians who defend AI because self-reflection is what they lack, which is the reason why they defend india and why their memes are nonsensical flips of anti-indian memes where they portray the others as the disgusting ones without understanding why they are the onea portrayed as disgusting. From their perspective they are normal and the others are jealous of them, they don't understand that the memes are representations of them, they think they are just done for the sake of making them mad, so they think they can elicit the respone they feel by portraying the others as the shit smeared
