daisuke still got it, 3 days til tokon.how do i play zaheer in avatar
>they buffed blanka>they buffed bison>they buffed lukeall my mains are eating... also those marisa, dhalsim and deejay buffs look scary as shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHH_FGe8h7Ihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPtFKS0rRochttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDrBjA9SCPIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOiYIBlNgTwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLpAIxHwwWAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvCN4tya4Mshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXWUF24p0S0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zhzbww-nuNYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=de2RzR4vsPMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iC9NQsE934
>>744589323Holy cool art
>>744589323Is he still just a emotionless drone?
what are some cool captain america moments? him spazzing out at iron man at the end of civil war a tad silly
>>744591235
>>744589323This almost looks like Daisuke old artstyle although I think his modern artstyle is that varied. Still pretty rad.
>>744591235Civil war the movie.
>>744591235Cap was cool when he was the defacto leader of the avengers, but iron man made more money and redditors liked RDJ better so he got to be the leader and posterboy, as a result movie cap fucking sucks and his shining moments are when he stands out as being the opposite of what captain America should be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B298kdzWl90
>COTW practically the only game other than 2 party games to not only lose players but a significant amount of players at thatWho's the audience for COTW? Casuals don't care, and seemingly not even pro/competitive players care that much seeing as it's losing players every new tourney. Is it really just for SNK's few fans yet again? I don't think the company can persist off of them forever. The Saudis will get tired by then.
>>744589323Felt like with the new spider man movie breaking records it'll have a big boost on Tokon's launch.
>>744591989>Who's the audience for COTW?saudis
>>744592034big boost of players*
>>744592034Would be a good time to throw in Punisher.Make him like Chris in MVC3, just an arsenal of guns.
>>744592140Did you watch that one last kill thing? I dunno what to make of it. My brother and I just sat in silence through the whole thing.
>>744592034We can only hope.Then again it might have a massive drop after the hype dies down.
>>744592346Nope. I generally never watch TV stuff.
>>744592685Well lah dee dah
>>744590043>Evo finals were Blanka vs Blanka>Buff BlankaSo they've just completely given up then?
>>744591235He's got a pretty decent amount of cool bits in Earth's Mightiest Heroes, the show is definitely worth a watch
>>744593347Is that the one with the awesome theme song?
>>744593279I've given up on that game.
>>744591309Guaranteed to be one of the early Tokon mods if the game will actually be moddable.
>>744593279that anon is being intentionally obtuse, they nerfed his two most oppressive buttons
who are the actual biggest winners of this patch? jamie and luke buffs look really nice
>>744595281kimberly. they gave her 3 cans
>>744589323My HERO!!!
>sfg>can't discuss the new patch because there are 50 ritual posts every 5 minutes
>>744598381I don't think anyone actually likes the game there
which games do you play currently?
>>744598381there's a whole sf6 thread up right now you dingus
Is Avatar good? I need a break from SF6.
>>744601032yes, its very fun
>>744601126Just to be sure, it's not a tag like Tokon?
>>744601195no it isnt
Brand New Day was fun. I think I'll main Spider-Man in Tokon.
>lukes sandblast now knocks down on counterhitHOLY BASEDLUKEGAWD
>>744598381the unfortunate state of video game generals nowadays, soon talking about games at all on this site will be impossible
Since garbage like pheonix cyclops are in, maybe we can get age of apocalypse characters like blink.
>>744598381Try asking anything about the game or previous games and you'll quickly notice most of them don't even play street fighter
>>744601032This game is crack.
>>744604596most honest character vs most dishonest
>>744604654That's also in character too.
>>744598871sf6 and usf4
>>744591989the target audience was normies and they failed hilariously to capture them. i'm an snk player but i find the game boring and stopped playing after like a couple of weeks
>>744598871>for honorUh?
>>744591989It's not for SNK fans because they'd rather play a new KOF instead. It's for the one Saudi Prince who really wants Fatal Fury to be a thing again.
>>744598871kof02um and cvs2. i mess with various snk and capcom games on fc sometimes though it's a stretch to say i "play" them.
>>744604415did they really need to nerf him like this
>>744598871god I don't play none of that fucking shit. I did just re-download MvC3, maybe I'll try that again.
>>744605861He's the most hated character in Japan, of course Capcom would nerf him
these luke buffs feel amazing ngl, he feels like an actual character now
>>744589323sit in training and mess with fly unfly until moving and using it in the middle of matches becomes second naturelearn how to space air approaches and when to use lows and flow moves, he is easily anti airedlearn the autistic red lotus set ups for each variation so you can counterpick, some are more useful in certain matchups, for example EX ghazan can cover a lot of space for matchups where your opponent likes to move around
>>744607308qrd?
Blazbluers, what am I missing here?
I like it when Korra does the victory animation where she hugs Naga :)
>>744607838the big one imo is that sandblast has a knockdown on counter
>>744598871Plus R and CF
>>744598871Avatar and Soive
3 days to go to see if they fixed tokon on PC
>>744609121You don't get it, he's the main character, this is why he can do this
>>744609195this is a good buff to alex in my opinion, ddt being projectile immune makes him way more viable
>>744609121why the fuck does street fighter have orbital beam canons
>>744598871Just Blazblue these days. Might pick up Avatar or Tokon.
>>744598381sfg don't play any sf game, go ask for a lobby and see what happens
>>744609121good, that throw was useless, you actively threw if you did it
took an edible time to watch broskis 5 hour patch analysis
>>744608534praying they do, tokon is my last hope. was looking forward to lumina sequel but the sf6 mechanics killed it for me and they probably won't fix the online issues anyway
they buff dhalsim and jamie in every patch
>>744609121
Post Mains
>>744609121Not Alex’s first time wrestling a god
>>744609121>fighting games take skill
>>744595073>*Look inside*>Level-2 unchangedHmm...
>>744612225You have to literally read peoples’ minds to win with Alex in any game
>>744598871actively?starward and blazbluetrying to learn mahvel on the side but idk if anyone will even still play after tokon
>>744591989>Who's the audience for COTW?Mohammed bin Salman
>>744609121I like that DDT might be good finally but I hate that fucking prowler stance bullshit so much
>captain america>no us agent color scheme>no flag smasher color schemeshit game
>>744591989strive having the 2nd biggest increase in players after sf6 is crazy. Game's probably gonna have a season 6 then the final season with 1 or 2 characters like Tekken 7 going into 2028 or even 2029.
spare some playtime?
>>744613639only thing that will take out strive is blazblue strive in 2030
>>744613984Did the publisher funding finally dry up?
>>744613984I saw all the GG player devs and how one of the main guys was a dnf duel fan and immediately ejected the idea of playing this game from my brain.
>>744613984Nah I gotta learn this one Vatista combo.
>>744598871Strive and BBCFSF6 might have not even been patched with how little changes there were, no interest in going back into itProbably gonna hop on Tokon if they fixed the PC perf, beta was fun but unplayable
>>744591989I just want a new KOF man
>>744613984you guys had a good runwell not really...
>>744614634
>>744614492I still can't believe they censored Dizzy
>>744616883its called character development chud
>>744616883Unironically a way better looking outfit than her old one.
Wish I liked tag fighters because I'm bored of SF6 but a reasonable alternative doesn't exist.
>>744617214theres a certain 30$ flash game
>>744591235>what are some cool captain america moments?When he shows up in Maximum Carnage.
>>744591989Ouch COTW
>>744589323do blockstring -> call assist -> do the roll thingt. loses to zaheer>>744604596damn this bitch is crazy
which fighting game character makes you go "yes king"
>>744616883I dont care about tits, give me j2S instead, I need a good crossup
>>744591235>what are some cool captain america moments?
>>744619413>Just give me the single dumbest command normal in GG historyNo
>>744589323Still got what? A tranny cock in his ass?
>>744619657the town inside me
>>744619586I don't care about the throw invuln and frame data, I just want a damn crossupMeanwhile they gave Robo-Ky this fucking abomination
>>744619729Right.
>>744593830It'll go hard af
>>744589323that's AI and it looks like shit, Daisuke lost it with Xrd, this is just a parody, entire genre is a parody.
mmm good ass fish hook
hes right doe
Any tips for Yasmine? I sorta get the gist with her. Not really a big fan of characters like her (needing a buff to do damage and it looks like her damage is low where you need execution to do optimals or you can literally lose the match because you cut with too much paper and no sauce)>Get her buff asap by hitting literally anything>iirc everything can go into her 236 SP/MP but not everything can go into 236 HP so gotta find the combos from there>dunno when to use her 214 P (beyblade) unless for combos.>use 236k for some dumb shit, idk her range on this but punch is to hit crossup while kick is to hit same side. >22p for combos or controlling space to force yourself being able to get in.Anyone got a decent combo guide with her? Hit confirming 236SP/MP is killing me though so I gotta get that habit as soon as possible. I'm guessing set a dummy to guard randomly and keep muscle memory up?Anything else I'm missing? I don't get what her level 2 does nor her really beefy combos. She's easy to snowball with in the corner but just getting in feels sorta rough if they don't give you space to boomerang...
>>744609121Dix is fucking dogshit but that was kinda cool.
>>744609121In lore what is the exact reason why alex can do this ONLY if he does for a leaping DDT?
https://youtu.be/ZpltVWShvHE
>>744621853>Red Hulk is a recolorDamn...
>Try to ask for advice on /sfg/>all they do is fucking doompost When did all the /tekgen/ losers start getting everywhere?
>>744621853 children game for actual retards, not a fighting game, arcsys worse since strive. As lame as it gets baiscally.
>>744621949Doomposting is accept the state of the industry and the state of fighting games as they are. It's bitterness, they are watching the entire genre die right infront of their eyes, replaced by a bunch of crayon sucking niggers.
>>744617262Avatar is an anime game. It’s a better GG alternative than a SF alternative.
>>744622201>Avatar is an anime game.It's more Uni than a proper anime fighter desu
>>744591989Why is every fighting game that I enjoy like this?Do I have the shit taste, or is everyone else wrong?How do I get into mainstream fighters if I don't really like them?
>>744621949post 2016 4chan is just like that
>>744621853>Armored overhead>Armored long range unblockable normal>50 meter super that deals 100meter tier damage if in install modo>Even the fucking assists have armor if in gamma install
>>744622236it's not like uni at all in my experience, to the point that I'm confused how you could think that reallyuni is a game about long blockstrings, dashblocking, grounded pokes, reverse beats, consistent but limited mix oki, and low risk low reward defenseAvatar is a game about short strings, fast interactions, air movement, low/high profiles, tech chasing constantly, and crazy mix in the rare instance you actually get hard knockdowns
>>744621853Did devs make it so mouth flaps work with different languages?
>>744621949Hardened schizos
>>744621853He looks great but i dont know if i should drop $60 on this game considering all the Sony fuckery in their PC ports.
>>744622928i miss when you could buy fighting games from key shops cheap before they released, now they're only like 10% off
>>744622353mainstream fighters are fun for like a week but tbqh the numbers arent even worth it for the shit quality matches you get>wifi mains>one and dones & winquitters>ragequitters>the cancerous metafag>the cancerous streamerfag
>>744623585>one and donesnothing wrong with this btw
>>744622715Someone answer me?
>>744623585>one and dones & winquittersNo one has any obligation to rematch you. GGNORE
>>744621853Looks lame.
>>744621949You need to set up like 10 filters before sfg (fgg) is useable. Also helps to post a waifu for attention when asking a question.What kind of advice were you looking for?
>opponent powers up
>>744623756>>744623875Meet the block list then. Nobody wants to waste time with your bullshit.
I genuinely think that DBFZ is amongst the greatest tag games ever especially ij it's current state. Honestly think it's better than UMVC 3 too.Tokon doesn't look to be better than DBFZ at the moment but Tokon at the moment is miles better than season 1 DBFZ. Really looking forward to seeing how the game will evolve over the years
>>744624267i was gonna sleep but fuck it PC NA EC FT5?
>>744591989I have to be honest in saying that i seriously never understood why tournament participant numbers is used to gauge how "alive" a fighting game is. It's just a numher that shows you the 0.01% of players for a game gathered together for a few days in North America. A game like Mortal Kombat 1 will have abysmal tournament numbers but it will sell millions of copies with thousands of people online ready to play and people in the FGC will call it dead or a flop.
>>744624516Not this time friend,It's almost 3am for me, about to go sleep.
>>744623795>>744622715You mean each language has different lipsync? I think so.
>>744614634just play XVthen lose because you probably don't actually even play KOF
>>744624526You're right it's not a good metric. But with CoTW I think it might actually corelate. I've never seen anyone post actual sales numbers so maybe that's incorrect as well.
>>744624593DAMN IT
>>744624758Doesn't this nigga commentate for SF6 too?
>>744624758
>>744624758I know it's common to hate on kontent kreators but Majin Obama really does feel like one of the more level headed guys.
>>744624830>Majin Obama really does feel like one of the more level headed guys.Nigger what
>>744624830>Majin Obama>level headedLmfao
>>744624857>>744624879You could have told me why not but you chose not to.
>>744624758Twi Lumina is doomed
>>744623585But the mainstream fighters are so populated you can flat out ignore wififags existing, the one and doners/quitters you mentioned are minorities everywhere except Tekken because something is wrong with them, the metafags are a genre wide problem ESPECIALLY in anime fighters and definitely not any more so in populated games like Tekken, SF and strive, and what's the issue with the streamerfags you might fight? Them sometimes putting their stupid links as names is dumb but aside from that they're basically like any other random you might fight.
>>744624905He hates every fighting game made past 2017 and will shit on you for it too.
>>744624758>>744624929There's this cope that it'll be different than SF6's like Avatar's flow button and burnouts are different.
>>744624905He's release Melty Lumina's biggest defender
>>744625063SF6's drive mechanic*
>>744625030>He hates every fighting game made past 2017 uh, BASED?
>>744624758How many games have done this? COTW and Avatar, what else?
>fgc clinging to Avatar as the only "real" fighting game>western developershow did it get to this point?
>>744624905Cry more bitch >>744625030Deserved lol, fighting games have been put on hold since dbfz
>>744625232Aping SF6 and barring that, making things too easy/automated
>melty blood fans restlessly shitting on Strive upon lumina's release >has an abysmal launch and shield was god awful >new melty game is dick sucking sf6 mechanics Karma is fucking a bitch shit on Strive all you want but my game doesn't have autocombos, burnout or a drive mechanic.
>>744625190Strive's wild assault although that one got removed fortunately.
>>744625248DBFZ arguably put a hold on itself until Season 3
>>744625190Granblue?
>>744624758isnt he a tekken 8 shill?
>>744625286Gameplay-wise, it's a victory for StrivefagsBut then GGfags have to deal with Bridget and having its existing fanbase replaced with the FGC equivalent of Smashkids.
>>744625286The prettiest turd in the toilet bowl
>>744625386>But then GGfags have to deal with Bridget Don't forget Testament.
>>744625443Oh yeah, him too.
>>744625232I fucking hate the fgc man. Avatar is essentially in early access at the moment and is a subpar product even accounting for the price it's marketed at. I honestly think avatar is on par with SFV's launch with how barebones it is but the fgc has just excused Avatar for all it's shortcomings.
>>744625386>>744625443If you don't browse social media this isn't an issue. Bridget fags don't play the game and testament fags have been buck broken by 2.0's balance patch and hardly play the game or character anymore either
>>744625546I think Avatar's a pretty decent product for its price, even if it is 100% unfinished. SFV was twice Avatar's price and following up the FGC revolution of SF4.
>>744624830He says things that are pretty reasonable from time to time but half the time he's definitely the type to sniff his own farts and be up his ass.
>>744625379he's new Rip
>>744625629>have been buck broken by 2.0's balance patch and hardly play the game or character anymore eitherThat never stopped people from being annoying about it.>If you don't browse social mediaSure but that doesn't stop people here from complaining about trannies despite never going to locals or majors to see said trannies either.
>>744625714i would go to a local if i had one...
>>744625286No instead you had Happy Chaos, Wild Assault, tranny propaganda and a franchise raping game that retroactively ruined the series. You're easily the biggest loser.
>>744625696I can't defend avatar for not launching with ranked or multi-man lobbies. Games from 15+ years ago and indie shit fighters made by 1 guy with a shoestring budget have these in their games.
>>744590043Does Luke have new combo routes? Why is SF6 is so lacking in saucy combos? Compared to SFV and USF4. Not that the game needs flashy combos, it's just weird that the combo game in 6 is so dry.
>>744625347What SF6 style mechanics does Granblue have, I didn't play that one
>>744625845Can a fighting game so defined by a universal mechanic attack truly be saucy?
>>744625970They're different but people have been calling Raging Strike, the big flashy move you do to extend big combos, break guards, or defend yourself from said move, to be somewhat similar to Drive stuff.
>yasmine sucks she does no damage>mfw looks at cammy????????????? it's day 1 too. i remember people said cammy was low tier too....
>>744625775>Happy Chaos, Dog shit character too that.too long to nerf, ultimately though it was just a esports problem, you could dodge HC in the tower all you want>Wild AssaultDog shit mechanic that got nerfed over time and ultimately removed.>tranny propagandaIrrelevant if you're not from NA and terminally online>franchise raping game that retroactively ruined the series. You're easily the biggest loser.Most successful, longest dev support and biggest roster for a Guilty Gear game ever. Tekken 8 is the bigger loser all things considered. After Tekken 7's success the game has been spiralling dowawards on most metrics. Fucking lead devs leaving the company entirely is abysmal.
>>744626126Holy fucking cope lol
>>744626113People said Sagat wasn't going to matterPeople slept on BlankaPeople couldn't understand Ed until it was too lateFrankly I can't even remember if people even had Mai right, because her most oppressive tool is probably her fans and that's easy to see. I want to trust people but PEOPLE are fucking STUPID
>>744626126>Tekken 8 is the bigger loser all things consideredThat is true, that thing has been circling for years now and the devs walking out isn't a good look.
>>744626271ryu was slept on until like mid/late s2 and he ALREADY got the fucked up shit in early s2. SFVIfags are fucking retarded as all hell.
>>744589323>daisuke still got it, 3 days til tokon.lol tranny
i hate troon gear strive
>>744626252Stop arguing with me and practice your DI reactions you fucking faggot.
Why is /v/ obsessed with trannies? Literally, I hear more about them on this goddamn board than anywhere else in my life. I just wanna play games, man.
>>744625232Oh so now were shilling western devs?
>>744626398I accept your concession.
>>744626289That season 2 balance patch will go down in the annals of fighting history as one of the worst balance patches ever. And then for them to double down on it for season 3 with the #Back2Basics promotion trailer was hilarious.
>>744626454Because most fuckers here don't play, they just want to complain. They probably don't realize they're grouped in as being the damn casuals we make fun of.
>>744626454it's basically a form of tourettes at this point >I just wanna play games, man.if you ignore english speaking communities you can pretty much avoid it altogether
>>744626252He is objectively right what Tekken 8 did to Tekken is considerably worse than anything else and I wish it wasn't so.
>>744626126Tekken 8 fucked things so bad no one even tries to defend it anymore
#744626572
>>744625030>He hates every fighting game made past 2017based based based
>>744626694the worst thing is that they were given so many signs about how things were gonna play out you can watch the final tekken 7 TWT where they did the t8 gameplay reveal and every time they explain a mechanic the entire audience is vocally against them
>>744626871Ah, X-ism. Now this is Street Fighter.
>why is v obsesssed with trannies? >BY THE WAY GUYS LOOK AT MY TRANNY GAME! LOOK AT IT! LOOK AT IT YOU FUCKING CHUDS! I LOVE TRANNIES! Okay.
>>744626745>no one even tries to defendnakatsu's vision no defend, only AGGRESSIVE
>>744625546the game is that good. you won't understand it until you play a set against someone of equal skill.the gameplay is simple yet so expressive. everything around it will only get better over time as the product improves.
>>744626895Early T8 had you be able to do multiple heat dashes and they wanted to make rage arts less punishable on block. What the fuck were they thinking cooking up T8.
>>744627008I do like the gameplay a lot too. Even though i think it's unacceptable to have a game not launched with ranked I often fight people in 30+ long matches.which i like. But the skill gap due to no ranked means beating up casuals who rage quit on me more times than i get the chance to match with people around my skill or who are competent at the game.
>>744626895>>744627018They likely were not thinking anything at all when it came to 8 due to the success of 7. Mechanics fucked up, characters fucked up, ranked fucked up.
>>744621302bump
>>744625286Yeah it's funny how casual friendly Strive is supposed to be without caving into casual shit mechanics or features>no autocombos >no 1 button specials>no simple/modern control scheme >no gattlings or magic series to mash combos>no comeback mechanics>buffed defensive mechanics over time whilst nefing offense
>>744627282Tekken needs an elo system so bad. The png grind has lost all sense of meaning.
>>744627363it's just fucking stupid that they killed deathmatching because of 'muh smurfs' and ranks are still so absurdly inflated
>>744626958>Japanese devs are chasing full offensive gameplayWhy are the Nips devs keep chasing the modern trend to casuals when it makes everything worse, even SF6 is following the same steps.
what are the all time bad fighting game patches outside of t8 s2 and 3?
>>744619395Poison
>>744621853lifeless shit looking clap. Reminds me of sfv.
>>744627134paramount put a gun to the dev's heads and told them to release. what can you do.they should put out a bare bones elo system and spectator lobbies asap though, it's costing them more than multiple character releases.
>>744627519rev 2
>>744621853He looks like one of the characters I would invest in because I know he's gonna filter 90% of the playerbase especially at day 1. I can easily make it to masters with all these armor attacks. But that's if I was actually interested in the game
>>744626126>Most successfuli.e. pandered to lowest common denominator the hardest. Wow, what an accomplishment. Post hours, faggot
>>744627519tekken 7 after season 2 just slowly got worse over time as if it was a poisoned game
>>744627282I don't get why they added heat and shit at all. Just make Tekken 7 with a new coat and paint and fuckers would've ate that up. Why go in with this nonsense system?
>>744627804Nakatsu leading Tekken project was a mistake.
>>744619395King
Welp. I'm gonna stay playing Type Lumina again. I need to be ready for TwiLumina. I don't it doesn't play the same but I need to get my Melty fundamentals back since it's been a long ass time and MBAACC plays nothing like the HD games. Now I need to figure out who to main. I don't know if I should keep playing Aoko, switch to Ciel or P.Ciel, or learn Akiha.
>>744627952>Aoko, AkihaI think 90% of my time playing MBTL were fighting these two bitches. Sitting through an Akiha mashing through her buttons for the OTG combo after a 623C got old really fast.
>>744626047Yeah with Granblue you have the brave point mechanic which you have 3 pips to either use for Raging Strike or Brave Counter. When you only have one or no pips left you take more damage. One left is 25% more and zero is like 50% more damage.With Raging Strike you can also spend some of your meter to do a Raging Chain to continue your combo.
>>744613984Tokon may have some issue but boy am I glad everyone is going to abandon this game for it.
>>744626047Well that's fucking stupid, it's way easier to punish and comes at a harsher cost if you waste it. Drive is hated because it's easy to spam without punishment and recharges over time so as long as you don't get your shit rocked during burnout you can get back to sliming
>>744627717See>>744627291 to understand how retarded your statement is. Now it's your turn to post hours.
>>744627282I don't know why faggots use this image as a gotcha when they literally added like 10+ ranks after GOD and the true sweats are in the literal 1 percentile of the top ranks. The situation is the exact fucking same and only the truly good players are where they're supposed to be. What is the issue?
>>744624758Can Majin go a day without yelling at clouds?
>>744627697I think he’s going to filter a lot of people in the beginning but I think the top tiers will be fast characters. Recent Arcsys usually balance the fast characters by giving them lower health but with everyone sharing the same health bar they can’t do that.
>>744627859>Just make Tekken 7 with a new coat and paint and fuckers would've ate that up. Why go in with this nonsense system?1/3 playerbase left when T8 gameplay was released on the alpha. as the anon >>744627018 said, the alpha released was a broken kusoge with the heat, with the season 2 happened, the steam count was around 16k the the drop off was on 50% of player, half of the playerbase left, it doesn't matter if they get rid of everything broken, it's gone. Bamco did the damage control with Yujiro's teaser to gain new players.
>>744628265>they literally added like 10+ ranks after GOD ranks they wouldn't need to fucking add if they had some common sense, kept all the ranks from the last game and didn't make this fucking baby pandering shitfest not let you lose points until yellow ranks. There is no reality where God of destruction being the most populated rank in a Tekken game makes sense or is ok.
>>744589323I'm trying to play avatar but this game doesn't make sense. I can't get a feel for anyone on the roster
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WX7sMYCUhU this sandblast change is actually nuts, luke already had the best fireball in the game
>>744628249>he screenshot the browser tab instead of his actual steam windownice inspect element>"I-IT DOESNT HAVE MODERN MODE S-SO IT'S ACTUALLY NOT BABBYFIED!!"you know +R is cheap as shit, you could just try it. Unless you already did and this is just you seething from having your ass handed to you by some favela monkey.
>>744628441big bodies are always good in tag fighters and in this one you never lose team members so I can see hulk being OP as fuck in 1.0. He even has an lingering assist for locking down people. I'm already thinking of wake up setups with that lingering assist whenever people try to forward roll out the corner. They fact that >Tokon is anti-instant overhead on large characters thanks to modern limitations like jumping Ls not beings overheads >Big Bodies keep their entire team the entire match, never losing their knowledge check gimmicks and/or mixThese two factors will push characters like Hulk into the S+ tier if someone good enough picks in up. Also Champion is a big body too so there's already two of them that can be on a team. And Hulk has a fuckton of armor. Like I said I can easy push to Masters with him on my team knowledge checking everyone
>>744629420The only thing they could do at that point is to increase the point threshold by a shitload if they kept the ranks the same. I'm starting to think rankings in fighting games are fucking stupid because they barely mean anything. There's demons online who never even touched rank and just use lobbies or quick match, so what the fuck is the point? Oh no, you have an active rank system! What a nightmare! What does it matter to you? YOU are never gonna compete at a tourney or place top 8 at a major, so why are you so anal about it? The ecosystem and ladder is the exact same, they just added more ranks. Quit fucking bitching.
>>744604654>>744605068kino...
>>744609195B-b-but Ingrid is mainstay!
>>744629790tbqh it'd be more meaningful if they did ranking in actual online tournaments rather than who grinds the most mmr
>>744627291playing strive is actually just watching half the time because of all the wallbreaks, RC pauses, and big hitstop
>>744609121Wtf? Ingrid already was dogshit. How did this patch make her even worse?
I hate Azula j.C to an unhealthy degree. I can read it's coming during her backwards jump squat before the airdash and it still stuffs my anti-air.
>>744630112The problem is online tourneys easy to cheat your way in, and hardly ever used as a necessity these days. The only group I can think of that uses them is TNS, but they're effectively a local with broader reach. Ranks are just superflous, and no one in fighting games seem to want to embrace that. All they end up doing is fueling saltiness and people ripping on the game because they're assblasted they lost cookie points to a Hwoarang doing high low strings like a faggot or whatever. Which, admittedly, is annoying (but that's a Hwo design issue more than anything), but rank just breeds some of the worst mentality. Yeah Avatar doesn't have it, but so far no one has been openly shitting on the game as far as I know. There's been people posting of THEMSELVES going 0-60 and LIKING it; why? Because there's no fucking abitrary points to worry about. I'm almost genuinely certain that ranks are more likely to fuck over how people approach and consume fighters on a serious level after seeing how much praise Avatar is getting in spite of a "lack of ranked" and I'm not joking. The devs should seriously test the waters and see how long they can hold it out.
>>744630350Is that the axe kick? Can't you air throw it on startup?
>>744630502I've tried AA jab, 6D to Air Throw, 6D to j.2A, 5D, 2D, 2C, 2D xx C, etc. I guess 4D gets me out of there if I'm midscreen but I'd have to do it early or else it might fucking clip the startup somehow. Azula just gets to bully Kyoshi for free I guess.
give me tips to make +R less challenging to play
>>744629550>muh inspect element Fuck off.I never said Strive wasn't made easier for casuals, it was, but it didn't "pander to the lowest common denominator the hardest" by including all the casual friendly shit i mentioned before. The one time they added a SF 6 inspired mechanic the removed it entirely. I'm sure you feel morally superior to me because you can do a combo with 20 sidewinders in a row but it doesn't mean you're incapable of making retarded statements.
>>744630639At least Azula players are all retarded and will always go for the autopilot blockstring, so you can also block and then fuck her up when she goes for 5M mid string.
>>744628154How many of those Aoko were "good" though? The Akiha's were annoying though. I would even say a bit braindead
the sf6 mechanics era of fighting games is like when every fps wanted sliding and wall runningit will come to pass eventually, surely
>>744630718bodied that freak
>>744631012Until SF7 released and introduced another mechanic...
>>744630751Only one actually used 236[B] routes in her corner combos so not very.Just annoying by nature of playing a character with mines and a triple jump/double air dash
>>744630718ya aight, faggeti don't even hate stroive as a game, I like playing eddie in it. I just fucking hate that it's a GG game that retroactively raped+murdered the series and made its most annoying fans even more insufferable. You ever had to talk to a cunt at locals that tried starting shit over calling ACPR bridget a "he"? I'm not even in NA.
>>744631012Literally only one game in the past 5 years of SF6 have copied DI. I think you'll be alright, schizo.
>>744631163Ugh, god, tell me about it. At my local there were fags unironically referring to Bridget as she and I just shut my mouth and tried to ignore the conversation. Doesn't help I'm not a big fan of the local I'm at currently and desperately wished another one would pop up.
>>744630718How can you play such a babymode game for over 1000 hours. Please tell me you went to majors and you have anything worth bragging about like sending a troon to losers or elim them from the tournament or top 8 placement. Something. If you just played this shit for 1000 hours online only that's fucking pathetic... unless you were bodying fools in online tournaments for money and sending troon to losers or elim them from the online tournament. There's no such thing as playing a game "casual" for 1000 hours. That's not casual. You must have some achievements/accomplishments. I refuse to believe you have absolutely nothing to brag about right now and showcase so I can at least call you based af and super skilled at Strive. I don't disrespect skills even if it's Strive. If you were bodying fags in tournaments you're based. You're more than what 99% of this thread will ever achieve. But got damn you're a miserable fuck if you aren't any of that LMAO
I wish people here would play fighting games with me
>>744631716What do you play?
>>744631163Arcsys added in rollback to +R, it has one of the best matchmaking systems around as well as being the game that invented replay takeover. People in locals being insufferable over pronouns suck but it's just shit you can filter out and enjoy+R. As much as I shit on competitive Smash I'll always respect melee fags for sticking with their 25+ year old game regardless of Nintendo shitting on them or what newer smash games come out. Really wish more FGC boomers followed their example of less complaining about new game bad old game good and actually playing old game they're so passionate about.
>>744631716Okay.
I can assure you, if I put one thousands hours into Strive, I would be a Top 16 player at the least. No ifs, ands, or buts. Any of these Modern games. I ain't gonna throw my sanity away and not make money from it. I'd be streaming, taking money from retards over twitch, all that shit. I would build a market for myself before I get cancelled by one of these trannies. Get in and get out strat. Most hours I put into one of these babygames is 100 in Granblue. I was SSS+ in vanilla and Masters week one in Rising. Now imagine if I put 900 more hours into that shit
>>744630718>it didn't "pander to the lowest common denominator the hardest"It kinda did, that was daisuke's stated goal for most of the shit he actually talked aboutlike the big COUNTER thing is explicitly for stream watchers who otherwise can't tell when someone hits someone, the wallbreaks were never about balance or actually adjusting the average reward on neutral win or any high level shit like that, it just makes the worst players happy that they don't instantly lose when they get cornered and refuse to block you're allowed to like the game, if you didn't like the older games much it makes a lot of sense that changing stuff would make you like it more, but it did pretty explicitly pander to the lowest common denominator, at least as far as fighting games go. Consider how you'd feel if Daisuke announced that the sequel to Strive would be another arena fighter MOBA thing and after it made 5x as much money as Strive ever did in its first year that was declared proof that actually it was the better game and all the lol players that got into it and outnumber the Strive players 10fold decided that Baiken is a lesbian and Zappa starts using therapyspeak and calling himself a multiple system.
The new Spider-Man film has me even more excited for Tokon. Also very fucking happy I don't have to play Rivals for my Marvel video game fix anymore.
>>744630718>put 1000 hours into a fighting game>cant do sidewinder combostragic
Gamers are waking up
>>744628241>Well that's fucking stupidyep.
>>744632114Yeah well gamers can hold this meaty
*Ribbit Ribbit*
>>744632289hawawawJEDUAR
>>744631934>and calling himself a multiple system.zappa would have a pretty valid claim to that honestly
>>744632114not a chance
>>744631934Are you saying wall breaks and counter hit slow downs pander more to casuals than autocombos and 1 button specials? Casuals who have never touched a fighting game get instant gratification and are handheld way more with the latter imo. Mashing buttons and seeing cool shit on screen panders way harder. I don't get your strive sequel being an arena MOBA thing either. Strive is still a 2d anime game, it didn't abandon the genre of fighting games altogether...
>>744632395>Are you saying wall breaks and counter hit slow downs pander more to casuals than autocombos and 1 button specials?in some ways yeah, Xrd and CF have stylish mode but they keep it out of the "real" game for a reason. Strive built the game around it.and if Strive had released after SF6 it would absolutely have modern controls too>it didn't abandon the genre of fighting games altogetherNo, but it abandoned most of the things that made it Guilty Gear, it hasn't got much left to abandon but the rest of the genre.
when's zohar
>>744632812nobody knowssame for the nerf patch everyone begged kamone for
>>744631221>rev blow>raging strike>wild assault>heat burst>advance strikeit's harder to find a game that doesn't have a drive impact
>>744632395>Are you saying wall breaks and counter hit slow downs pander more to casuals than autocombos and 1 button specials?Anon, the MAIN reason fighting games aren't as popular as shooter slop from a viewing standpoint is that there is a lack of spectacle. This is a huge, huge, HUGE reason why Tekken 7 popped off, because of slowmos and counter hits getting HUGE zoom-ins and emphasis, like Kazuya's df2. This is literally a major reason, and that's why shit like DI is good from a viewing standpoint and why SF has large viewers. The fact devs seemingly don't realize this is why fighters are still seen as third rate in the west.
>>744631721>>7446318403S and KOF15
how many hours do you need to know if your gonna make it in a game or not
>>744633416What do you mean bruh?
>>744633176I think SFV and it's abysmal launch along with Akuma being a launch guest character were reasons why Tekken 7 was successful right of the bat but yeah you're right casuals do like a a spectacle but I dunno if thats the main reason why fighting games aren't popular. SF6 has avatar shit and the world tour mode which casuals love and for Japan all their zoomer e-celebs and vtubers got involved with the game and took it seriously.
>>744633445if I got 2000 hours but still play bad
>>7446334161500
>>744633501lmao
sfg is unusable so I’ll just ask my question here.I’m new to SF6 but not to fighting games, only started playing 2 days ago. How the fuck do I defend against Zangief and Marissa? Even their normal specials, like the piledriver or rabbit punch, do more damage than level 1 super arts. It just feels unfair because no other character apart from these 2 can do it
One time I was playing a new game, my friends were all reaching the high ranks, I was getting filtered in the mid ranks. I seethe so hard I made it into the high ranks with pure seethe
>>744633176Not to mention, the visual impact also transfers to the player themselves; people want to FEEL like they're doing something and that they have control over the game. This is why shooters are popular, because of the aspect that you have control over everything and can maneveur on your own skill. The counters feed into that. I'm not against it entirely because really even Xrd had that similar design theory with bigger counter hits having larger hitstop and a huge fucking ground bounce, so it could work if done tastefully, and it was refreshing to see in T7 as well. >>744633497I mean yes that's why but only T7 in particular rose to claim the #2 spot and has stayed there ever since. No other 2D fighter has even come close to Tekken's numbers except for DBFZ, even with the brand power behind it. The avatar stuff is purely a japanese aesthetic. They're all fucking obsessed with that shit and building a social media type of interaction in their lobbies, it completely baffles the fucking mind. You know how japan still has photo booths? They're like that. It's something to do stupid shit with, upload it to your IG going "sol-chan look particularly kawaii today www" and that's it, and they hope it'll be enticing enough to get them to do it again. This is the design philosophy behind it EVERY time, even though NO ONE OUTSIDE JAPAN FUCKING LIKES IT. Even in shit like Fortnite they all make their meme poses and shit and it's forgotten after a week, and then with all seriousness they'll play as Peter Griffin wielding a buckshot to win a battle royale with a serious face and think nothing of it. The avatar stuff is purely done out of japan's obsession with that bullshit. As for WT, people like it because it's an ACTUAL single player mode which fighting games DESPERATELY need. It ain't rocket science to figure out why people like it. Compare to everyone else when all they have are just shitty storymodes where they make you do the fighting game stuff inbetween story.
>>744633747Having friends interested in the same fighting game as you is one of the best motivators for getting better.
Anybody excited for VF Crossroads? I hope it’s better than Tekken 8
>>744621641It don't work for him brother
>>744633747games have ranks?
>>744633674Character? Mostly to deal with slow heavy hitters you have to play slow and zone them to force them to take risks approaching you. Command grabs can't be teched but you can avoid them with a neutral jump or backdash and get a huge punish after.
>>744633674you have to backdash or jump spd and anti air with a dp marisa's superman punch, sometimes jab works on it
>>744632812>>744633053Summer 2026™Hopefully I learn this Vatista combo before then.
>>7446334162-300?Idk Im at 2500 in KOF15 and my ass still goes 2-2 at majors like a clownas far as majors go, you make 95th percentile or you're a fucking joke
>>744633902Thanks anon that’s sensible advice. I basically used every character I had available against them, but I was only able to defeat them with each other lmao. Btw I’m a casual and this was in offline mode and difficulty level 5.I think this speaks more about my playstyle than anything else, which is close up rush down.I think I’ll spend more time in World Tour just to get a feel for SF6
>>744633416For modern>"""""""""Fighting Games""""""""""""Around 100-300 hours
>>744633843I'm always interested for new fighters
>>744633998bro... that's nanase>no nanase fuzzy setupbro... this webm is ass
>>744633998I noticed something. Why do you always use this stage?
>>744634078I don't have the Vat combo, I'm trying to learn it. These are merely corner combos with no frills attached made to gauge the cast's general damage in the corner as a self-study.>>744634109My favorite stage used to be Highrise, this new stage is clearly in an even higher elevation.
>>744633497>why fighting games aren't popularthey're 2 player games while other popular competitive games go from like 8 to 99. if you're a normalfag and have more than one friend you're not gonna play a fighting game
I like COTW
Should I main Sagat?
>>744634047Yeah, characters like cammy who are normally all about getting as close as possible and sticking to the opponent historically struggle against gief just because his piledriver is just that good. Grapplers in general tend to force you to play in an off way which is one of the reasons why they are so infamous. Marisa is another can of worms but the broad idea is the same. If you're still at the point where it feels like you're fighting the controls more than the opponent then any time playing the game is going to help out a bit, WT, arcade, versus, casuals, doesn't matter as long as you're trying to just get a feel for it. That said don't be afraid to jump into ranked or online since it really is a way different experience and frankly by far the best and most engaging part about these games.If you can stick with one character then that will make learning a bit faster as well. At least it is for me. Some people can switch really easy, but I can only play one at a time. >>744634405If you like him, why not? He's crazy good in sf6 and will be for a while.
We're in August and the fucking UNI2 patch is still not out lmao. The fuck does "summer" mean to Japan?
>>744634645September 20th.
>>744630718Strive did something worse than throwing in some half-assed casual friendly mechanic. It fundamentally changed so much unique cool shit that make ASW games and GG specifically what they are so all you're left with is a slow gray sludge whose only value is being a really good entry point to airdashers. SF6 is the only game that's offended me more with its modern control bullshit, but other than that Strive is probably the sorriest treatment of a fighter I've ever seen. I don't even dislike the game that much and think it's fun for what it is, but I wouldn't want to see any other FG IP under go strive-ification in a million years. It's kind of sad to see.
>>744634645Maybe they're September believers?
>>744634645If EVO wasn't done early in June, this wouldn't have felt so long.
>>744634721Non fighting game IPs keeps choosing arcsys now instead of other fg devs. Avatar was lucky.
>>744633815t7 and xrd are pretty similar in that most of the new ideas & mechanics in them were highly questionable but the game was good in spite of that due to being a highly polished repeat of an older game (t7 & dr, xrd & accent core) and then the next games doubled down HARD on those new ideas and forgot the old ones.strive is danger time all the time and now everything from counterhits to the wall completely stop the game like yrc. t8 is all of t7's powercreep & meter bullshit dialed all the way up with michael murray movement philosophy
>>744634721>I wouldn't want to see any other FG IP under go strive-ification in a million years.You wouldn't want a fighting IP to become successful, loved and better? Damn that's rude.
I worry when BlazBlue gets a new game, it gets the Strive treatment where the girls are all covered up and an influx of Twitter and Reddit users flood the game and somehow ruin Mai when she's already a tranny (No idea how they'll do this).
>>744624758I respect this guy for standing up for old school values instead of selling out like jiyuna but...his latest youtube vid shows up in my feed and lmaothis guy is crazy for defending tanukana, I mean he's basically a dwarf isn't he?and he's black too, I know he's a huge simp (like for that girl who cancelled mike z) but bro is not getting tanukana-level pussy there's no reason to appear tough like what she said don't hurt him
>>744634796What other dev are there to choose from
>>744634875You should worry more about the possibility of a CF balance patch.
>>744634875I do not care if they make the game easier, what I do care is if they'll add an English dub as it's one of the few anime games I like in English as well as not having that awful desaturated colors + brightness Strive has as that shit hurts my eyes.
>>744634705>September 20th.>Fire Emblem, Eden, and Trails SC Remake on the 16thIt's over.
>>744634954>CF gets a balance patch out of nowhere>This confirms a new BB is in the worksWhy would this be a bad thing?
>>744634981Jesus anon, those are some dogshit ass games, not going to lie.
>>744634721The "striveification" has happened to street fighter multiple times though? I really don't get why people are allergic to playing old fighters and feel obligated to play the newer ones they don't like or to constantly whine about them.
>>744634875BB fans and their victim complex i swear...
>>744634863Please kill yourself.
>>744634875Mai is a biological woman though.
>>744635029i play old gamesi just want to have hope for the future of my hobby. i want to like tokon because i want to like arcsys games again
>>744634971Strive has english dub to attract the maximum amount of people so BB Strive will definitely have it
>>744635102As usual, go play Xrd if you like it so much.Oh right, you won't. And you know why.
>>744634931LETS SEE>CapcomBusy focusing on SF6 for 10 years. Retards really think there's going to be a new MVC lol?>Bamco100% guarantee to be arena fighter and who the fuck wants to be with bamco now especially after what they did with Tekken.>SNKThey haven't done non SNK IP fighters in a long time.>French BreadA good choice but too unpopular and after Twi Lumina's combat reveal... idk
>>744634618This is good advice. Thanks!
>>744635067>Me worrying that BlazBlue gets censored due to Strive censoring the females is me having a victim complexWhy is this a bad thing exactly?
>>744635168I'd rather play with nobody than play with trannies in a tranny propaganda game. Again: kill yourself.
>>744635213So in the end you don't care about the quality of the gameplay but just retarded coomer shit. Got it.
>>744634863Man I know this is bait but even then, honestly? No. I don't want it to become popular if it comes at the cost of a really fucking fun cool game that only some autistic fans liked. I don't like the normalfags and troons infesting GG now. I genuinely liked the world pre-strive more than whatever we have now.
>>744635257>tranny propaganda gameTrue, Xrd? Black propaganda game because it has Venom.
>the sf6 patch was actually goodit looked so lackluster on paper but every character got some cool new things and mai is fucking dead
>>744635258>Only gameplay matters, nothing else>Coomer shit is bad apparently in fighting gamesSo tell me, why is the Halo Combat Evolved Remake flopping hard when the gameplay is good?
>>744635323THEY KILLED ED
>>744635350What does Halo have to do with fighting games? Holy fucking shit you're so dumb.
>>744635168bodied that freak
>>744635350did they at least put jubjub in that pile of shit?
What if Mori gives blessings on the new Blazblue game and actually liked it?
>>744635489>no argumentKEEEEEEEEEEEK. Strive won.
>>744635257bodied that freak
>>744598381I'm not going to look at it but it can't be as bad as the Tekken general.
>>744591235In the MCU? Not really. He didn't get anything cool until End Game when he used Mjolnir for like 5 minutes, and even then it wasn't super badass since they already spoiled it years ago when he was able to budge the hammer in ultron.I dunno, I like Captain America but in the MCU they never knew what to do with him. Chris Evans is very handsome and looks like Captain America but he is a really bad actor and was never inspirational. Captain America is supposed to be the leader of the Avengers. He is not the strongest, fastest, or smartest, but everyone recognizes him (even Hawkeye) as the natural leader of the group who embodies the Avenger's principals and is able to rally them with speeches and his own actions. All attempts to give him speeches and heroic moments in the MCU fell flat, primarily because of a combination of wooden acting + bad writing. You just can't beat that.
>>744635405Because you said only gameplay matters and if the gameplay is good, no other factor should be the problem with the game. So I was giving an example of a recent game that came out thats flopping from making Cortana look like Jerma and adding a grunt who belittles Chief in every scene she's in but despite it all, the Halo 1 Remake has good gameplay but it's not selling well because of those factors I listed. Unless of course this should only apply to the fighting game genre and giving an example to another game from a different genre is considered cheating to you of course and that it doesn't count?
>>744613984It's truly impressive just how much people have forgotten this game even existed, when it was gonna be the so called "savior fighting games" and people insisting it was "gonna be big"Now look at it, even its own subreddit is full of people calling it dead or are very unsure if it will even get a season 2.
>>744624526NRS games have always been the weird outlier. It is universally true, aside from NRS games, that the most popular competitive games are the most popular fighting games.>NO DUDE IT IS JUST A COINCIDENCE THAT STREET FIGHTER AND TEKKEN ARE ALWAYS AT THE TOP OKAY>AND ALSO IT IS A COINCIDENCE THAT GG STRIVE IS THE BEST SELLING GAME IN THE SERIES AND ALSO HAS ITS LARGEST TOURNAMENT SCENE IN THE SERIES>ALSO ALL OF THOSE GAMES THAT GET BARELY ANY ENTRANTS ACTUALLY SOLD MILLIONS!NRS games are the exception that proves the rule. The cultural capital of Mortal Kombat is strong, and then they proceed to make DC games.
>>744598871Only SF6. I am not interested in tag fighters, CotW is actually just bad, and I do not like 3D. It sucks, because I basically am forced to only play SF6 since everything else is bad or a tag fighter.
>>744635659man those thumb-and-pinky gloves are really gay looking
>>744635682Upon rereading my post, I should have said "Kultural Kapital" and I apologize for not doing so.
>>744635745He'll get a female loki skin at some point. His existence is a humiliation ritual.
>>744609121>SF6 implementing KOF mechanics.
>>744635659>but despite it all, the Halo 1 Remake has good gameplay but it's not selling well because of those factors I listed.It doesn't.
>>744635595remember when he played the human torch
>>744635856We all try to 5get that.
>>744635350no multiplayer
>>744613984not with the anticheat
>>744635350>Why is the SINGLE PLAYER ONLY remake of a multiplayer franchise failing?Also the MCC exists? I mean they literally did a remake that was totally unnecessary.
>>744635856the thing was good in those movies
>>744613984I DO NOT LIKE TAG FIGHTERSWHY IS IT THAT EVERY DEVELOPER DECIDED TO MAKE A TAG FIGHTER SIMULTANEOUSLY?
>>744636017games go in phases, tag was trendy in the early 2010s too
>>744636017FighterZ sold a gazillion copies and had the FGC/tourney scene in an organic chokehold.
>>744636017>WHY IS IT THAT EVERY DEVELOPER DECIDED TO MAKE A TAG FIGHTER SIMULTANEOUSLY?my guess is they don't want to compete with SF6
>>744636017you can play 2xko and tokon as one characterwon't cut it at tippy-top high level, but you're not getting there anyways
>>744636017because 3-5 years ago everyone developer thought 'hey, there hasnt been a mahvel game in a while'
>>744636184my neuch clean
>>744636184you leave a gap and I see you charging that shit? 150 meter super.
>>744635532I don't argue with trannies. Go talk to the rope in your closet.
>>744590043I play Bison and Blanka and Luke so this is good for me
>>744636295GG was a dogshit franchise saved by Strive.
2cocks would be a lot more interesting if it had tekken tag's style of health
>>744635856>>744635998i really liked Julian as Dr. Doom in the movies, unfortunate he passed away last year
>>744636184HULKings we eating good.
Every fighting game would improve with a gem system.
>>744637049what's up with that director loving minigames and fall guys
>>744627291Thats actually shows how barebones and braindead Strives inherent fundamental battle system design is. Game is insanely casual with very low skill gap and ceiling while it doesnt need any of these casual systems. How I described Strive is a fact but that makes it very well designed game unironically enough. It always wanted to rape GG gameplay design wise without even micro care about legacy players which was a good thing long term.
>>744637049Gem system? As in SFxT gem system?
Hey if you see a guy talk about censorship and then immediately start talking about another completely unrelated game in another completely genre like halo or whatever while using mobilenigger filenames, just ignore him. Reminds me of that one mk nigger who flat out admitted to not playing any GG but would whine about strive 24/7 while comparing it to other fgs he also didn't play.
>>744591235Cap is always cool.
>>744589323Decided to check out Marvel due to Tokon, and chose to start with the X-Men. I'm on the last issue of the original Phoenix Saga. It's kino as fuck
>>744637485A bit sad Phoenix is now with Cyclops and not an unique character in Tokon but I guess she got her time to shine in MvC3
>>744637485Based. Enjoy the capeKINO.
>>744637485Good shit anon.
>>744590043>Ryu buffed>Blanka lvl 2 untouched Well at least they gutted Ed.
>>744621853Looks gay
>>744635595>but he is a really bad actorI liked him in Knives Out though
>>744637339While also posting this image, AND YOU STILL REMEMBER MY PRESCENCE AFTER 5 TO 6 YEARS!
I don't get how to do Rachel's>Anti air>J.C>jc.>2D>dl.J.C>66 6A.It feels like I don't do 2D into the delay properly
>>744637485based, I'm doing the same, it's been really fun so far, love these guys, I really like Chris Claremont's writingsadly I can't play tokon because sony won't let me
>>744621853I think this game has done a good job of making characters feel unique, but Hulk looks pretty basic and boring.
>>744637485>>744641317>millions of timelines and parallel universeUnironically, how do you even navigate among big comics series?
>>744631716me too but I'm in a far off region :(
>>744641753this is all just 1 continuity and straight forward, I'm still in the 70s, idk about the more modern stuff
They managed to get people to care about Magik by making her a cute anime girl. Next up is X-23.
>The Hulk>no command grab>no air dashDo these japs even know the Hulk?!
>>744633674>stay out their range>wait for them to get impatient and make a move first >neutral jump and proceed to fuck them upin that order
>>744642164It's Hulk SMASH, not Hulk GRAB or Hulk DASH
>>744605861he'd been getting baby step nerfs for ages despite being the most hated character in japan and he proceeded to win capcom cup, at that point it was over for him
>>744633674gief and marisa are both sorta momentum based and will start mauling you off of small mistakes. at a lower level the answer is to play as passively as you're able and have answers to their gimmicky ways to avoid playing neutral like their armored moves (grounded armored moves generally lose to lows for example) and be ready to anti-air their jump-ins. if you're at the point where they're pressuring you they've sorta already won. if you get a knockdown of any kind you need to relentlessly pressure them. sf6 them to death. throw loop marisa 8 times if that's what it takes
Stagnation fighter 6. Why won't capcom change something?
>>744642851game is perfect
>>744642851Change what exactly? Viewership, sales, brand appeal, all time interest, they've never been higher.
>>744643150>>744643186Tokon will steal all its players.
>>744641753Marvel's continuity and multiverse generally isn't that complicated (unlike DC's) especially prior to the 2000s. You can just kinda read in order by writer for the most part.
>>744643332Yes, I'm sure you said the same thing about Tekken... and Uni 2... and City of the Wolves... and 2X... and Invincible VS... and Avatar. Surely this will be the one to do it. Surely. Surely!
>>744643332You don't understand that people who play Street Fighter will only play that until they die.
>>744643332Just like any other fighters?
https://www.youtube.com/live/JlohhNzv8ds?si=Ys8lxE3HSjOGHG7nhttps://www.youtube.com/live/7SPPMmuaRUE?si=L_3J2TRs9o_-thbN
>>744635017I wonder what your concept of a good game is, 2XKO?
omfg yas trasil sc remake lets fucking GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Wrong thread?
>>744637485what omnibus is that?
all threads are trails threads
>>744645851>Tfw they finally learn
>>744645930Uncanny X-Men Omnibus Vol 1
How hard is getting into +R or Xrd these days? I was going to play Jam and Faust.
>>744646854entirely possible. you just might have to spend a little time in training mode instead of expecting to mash out easy wins on scrubs
>>744646854Ultra mega omega hard because those are real epic hardcore gaems and not soive you need to spend 200 hours in training room just to learn how to move Also jam is piss easy in both games go play her Xrd faust too
>>744646854The games themselves are not as hard as you might expect, but their low playercount means getting matches at your skill level may be tough, though +R at least has a lobby system that makes it so just getting a match shouldn't be trouble, how ideal an opponent you get is not as reliable.
>>744646854You want an actual answer? +R is hard, Xrd is like bashing your fucking face into a wall. +R at least has a wild and loose system where you can get around just actually having fun and doing random shit, Xrd forces you to learn if you want to be good and all your competition are wannabe trhard sweats who have thousands of hours, ONLY play Xrd (or had a major history in it), and are generally fucking scumbags to you if you just want to try learning the game through gameplay because they'll just abuse all the stupid shit they know and you'll be frustrated and won't have a good time and they'll pretend like it was or make a snide remark and leave because they're fucking assholes. Just play Blazblue, at least it has an active fucking online...
>>744647713just projectile yrc bro
>>744637485Based. Read Hulk CHADmics too.
>>744646854>Faustpretty easy. Abuse god normals and get to create even more advantage with items. His +R conversions are a bit jank.
>>744591235Current run by Zdarsky is pretty good so far.
>>744646854there's new people starting +R all the time now that people are gravitating more towards these timeless games, Xrd is probably a lot harder to start because it's functionally an abandoned game right now
/our/ guy Jeff.
No pre load for Tokon and AOF3R closed beta?
>BIG BODY GOD>savage brawler>not a GrapplerSISSY>5 starsMY HEROOOO!!!
the possibility of the grappler character in tokon being the one guy that loses a resource when using assists is either incredibly smart or incredibly dumb but im leaning towards dumb
reposting... hopefully someone with more experience has tips:Any tips for Yasmine? I sorta get the gist with her. Not really a big fan of characters like her (needing a buff to do damage and it looks like her damage is low where you need execution to do optimals or you can literally lose the match because you cut with too much paper and no sauce)>Get her buff asap by hitting literally anything>iirc everything can go into her 236 SP/MP but not everything can go into 236 HP so gotta find the combos from there>dunno when to use her 214 P (beyblade) unless for combos.>use 236k for some dumb shit, idk her range on this but punch is to hit crossup while kick is to hit same side.>22p for combos or controlling space to force yourself being able to get in.Anyone got a decent combo guide with her? Hit confirming 236SP/MP is killing me though so I gotta get that habit as soon as possible. I'm guessing set a dummy to guard randomly and keep muscle memory up?Anything else I'm missing? I don't get what her level 2 does nor her really beefy combos. She's easy to snowball with in the corner but just getting in feels sorta rough if they don't give you space to boomerang...
>>744649960Eat some pagpag with your lolo and kuya
>>744650549uma delicia
>>744649960she's a really simple char stop overthinking it just do drive rush, she's simpler than juri imoyou do boomerang then dr and when you're feeling random you do 214hp since it's +ob or feint it
>>744651009reddit post>>744650549god even that shit making me cringe they're REALLY hitting the culture signaling with this character
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLIu7ssRdm0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eez7ItZUTa0
>>744591989Not a very good looking for COTW
>>744651989random japanese dudes playing rumble fish 2 at 11pm on a weekday you love to see itif only anons could be as enthusiastic and willing to play "dead" games
Marvel Tokon is gonna do gangbusters
sakura bonding with sagat
>>744653854Its going to be first fighting game to pass 100k peak on Steam.
>>744636145This is not true at all. You'll, at most, progress to the stage of beating literal noobs. Juggernaut is awful in 2XKO and Tokon is a game about spamming 100000 assists in the final round.
>>744653854>more install/stocks/stance garbageIt's so tiresome
>>744653854>Hulk is a fucking chores character and has no command grabDoes this game even have a grappler in it at all?
>>744654584Unironically Storm and Magneto, maybe Ghost Rider
>>744654584it's hulk smash not hulk grab
how the fuck did Ms.Mudslime have more people playing her on point than Doomdid they make her OP?
>>744589323>how do i play zaheer in avatarschmix them with fly unfly blockstringsschmove around the screen and spam p'li to cover yourself in neutral
>>744654419It plays like a hate letter to fighting games and it's gameplay is complete fucking dogshit so yeah i think you are right.
>>744624526because the modern /v/ posting meta is focused on numbers and charts
>>744654989enough about sf6
>>744654584Not really no. Some characters have command grabs but thats it. Im sure this means that one of DLCs in S1 is going to be grappler.
>>744598871roa2 and avatar at the momentkinda wanna get back into uni2 but i dont have time for 3 fighting games anymore
>>744637627same thing happened in COTWnuked one top tier and everyone else got next to nothing
>>744655132both are garbage for people that hate fighting games
>>744637049sfxt was a disaster
Am I the only one that doesn't feel anything too special with Tokon? It hasn't clicked for me in the beta and the rest of the content in the game is sorta bland. I know story and shit is a huge afterthought but at least DBFZ had some fun character moments even though the story was dogwater.
>>744655768you're on 4chan and you think you're the only one hating on something?
>>744655870It's not autistic hate it's just I'm wondering what the hell other people are seeing in that game
>>744654927She seems decent, you just do the grabby lunge + assist and you're in, and she has a command grab and a decent overheadBut also, people are saying Wolverine sucks and yet he's even higher
do the SF6 devs even know how they want the game to be played? i feel like the thing with the game being popular with JP is a boss baby situation where it's being played by a lot of people who just dont know anything else about other games because they're favoring the universal mechanics meta since japan loves to clap for throw loops instead of actual unique character identity
>>744655959the cool char kits, fast airdash and gatling
>>744654927Pakis always be OP not only Kekken
>>744655768it's a modern fighting game
>>744653854kewl
>>744621853>what if he was green
>>744656137>fast airdashstrive really fucked you people up, huh?
>tfw 2xko will die before it gets a switch port so you can't even play it handheld, the only thing that might make it palatable
>>744607950You just know
how exactly do you pressure someone when your character has no grabs or overheads?
>>744658141I mentioned last thread but the last 2xko sponsored event I went this weekend had to give away spots for free because no one was plying it competitively. there were more people playing grand blue and way more people playing SF2
>>744655768Everyone who played the beta felt it was missing something. Most of them still intend on buying it simply because it's a fighting game with Marvel characters.
>>744658117i have 500 hours in cf and xrd and the airdash is fast not my problem your pc was running the game at 40 fps pedro
>>744658429not me :)
>>744658314Normal grabs, frame traps, reset strings
>>744658429I am disinterested in Marvel enough that I always lamented that MvC was MvC instead of just being Capcom vs. Capcom and I'm still getting Tokon because the beta was fun.
>>744658314crossup, chip damage
>>744655768i'm very underwhelmed with the roster, but i have to remind myself i was underwhelmed with the DBFZ launch roster, too. i just have to settle in and wait for the season passes to stack up.
>>744653854I kept mistook gamma rage the same as Jack 8's gamma charge wut
>>744658141Was there ever an f2p fighting game in switch?
>>744655768Nigga I just wanna play with Phoenix cyclops and Wolverine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwPklJucFqw
>>744641753For the Chris Claremont era, the Omnibus's collect all the important issues (main and side stories like Magik). You just need to use a guide to know where the spin offs like New Mutants, Excalibur, Wolverine and X-Force/X-Factor take place. I'm using picrel and this https://www.canva.com/design/DAGiHWzqpuY/2e7vU1Cbf3OdyLXFXAKt_g/view?utm_content=DAGiHWzqpuY&utm_campaign=share_your_design&utm_medium=link2&utm_source=shareyourdesignpanel
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How do you guys pick up non-shotos? They always feel like gimmicks to me in comparison.
>>744662849Gimmicks are fun and variety is the spice of life.
>>744662849>How do you guys pick up non-shotos?with the throw button
>>744662849Just play what you like. If grappler mains are cool with playing grapplers in every game there's no reason a shoto main can't do the same thing.
Why are 3D fighters so much more niche than 2D fighters, bros?Having lateral movement is just so much better for the footwork game imo
>>744663806Something about a jab juggling people mid-air in 3D looks way ridiculous than it does in 2D.
>>744663806Because the current 3D entries have even less movement than 2D.
If I preorder tokon do I get it tomorrow?
>>744663869>it is physically impossible to make combos look reasonable, stop thinkingWell the devs being all retarded and creatively bankrupt enough not to think up unique systems that fit 3D better could be an explanation I suppose>>744664283No, no. I am well aware of the decay, but 3D has ALWAYS been niche. There hasn't ever been a time where 3D fighters were as abundant and as varied as 2D fighters.
>>744662061this nigga zesty
>>744664532>There hasn't ever been a time where 3D fighters were as abundant and as varied as 2D fighters.Straight up not true. ps1-ps2 era you had tekken, doa, soul cal, bloody roar, and even street fighter and kof tried 3d.
>>744664726Were the 3D games of that era as abundant and as varied as the 2Ds of that era?
>>744664802Debatably, yeah. 2D fighters were niche for a while during the 3D era before SF4 came out.
>>744664532>There hasn't ever been a time where 3D fighters were as abundant and as varied as 2D fighters.I feel like in the PS1/PS2 era there would have been as many popular 3D games as there were 2D games
>>7446638063D is shitTekken is a mashfest party game and gets regular releases, hence why it is consistently the most popularVirtua Fighter has the veil of being hardcore, but it just has esoteric cumbersome controls and is really fucking boringDOA is a better Virtua Fighter, but it has been marred by nonstop bad executive decisions that heavily crippled its popularitySoul Calibur has always had bad mechanics and only gets worse in later entries, it's better off as a single player game
