The famous creator of a flight simulator, Scott Manley, has responded affirmatively to claims of AI usage, saying: "I've been coding since 1982... OF COURSE I USED AI CODE TOOLS"This has sparked discussion among other game developers, who themselves admit that it is no longer possible to deny AI tools' usefulness for game dev.
If you have ever used autocorrect while typing at a computer then you support AI.
>>744601015Scott Manley joins the ranks of other famous game developers and game industry figures who have become pro-AI in the past year:- Gabe Newell- Notch- Linus Torvalds- John Carmack- Tim Sweeney- George Lucas
>>744601015watch some indie dev try to virtue signal against this lol
>>744601181It seems to be over for us, fellow communist luddites. We lost... AI chads won.
>>744601234Question, why do you accuse your opponents of being communists when your solution to AI costing everyone their jobs is UBI?
>>744601181He should install a datacenter right next to his home then
>>744601234>man who has not released a game in 10 years talking about projects that will never see the light of day
>>744601234First they made the river Ganges too efficient and productive to swim in, now they’re doing it to the whole internet.
>>744601276AI working for everyone is not remotely the same thing as communism. Under communism, the government hands you a piece of paper and says, "Work in this gulag for the next 30 years." and you receive a paltry allowance while the party apparatchiks get rich doing nothing. Under AI, your personal AI deposits $4mil to your account every month while you sit at home playing video games.
>>744601015I had no idea he did stuff other than comment on KSP
Vibe coding is not inherently bad, as long as the the person knows what he's doing and makes sure the code is right. Of course it's bad when it's some retard that thinks he can code because AI does everything for him and it ends up being shit.
>>744601234>not because X, but because Yit was over for him before it even started, this social media addict fat fuck retard didn't realize he already had the algorithmic brainworms in him
>>744601276>Question, why do you accuse your opponents of being communistsprobably because anti-AI people are overwhelmingly left-wing transgender communists.(with the occasional "ChatGPT told me it's satan!! I seen it on facebook!" right-wing christian retard mixed in)
>>744601383>Actually giving the government absolute power and owning all property they had out to you in a stipend isn't communism because ideologically...In practice it's the same as the Soviet Union.
>>744601479>Everyone I don't like is a trannyThis isn't an argument.
>>744601527spotted the actual unironic transsexualhow does it feel to let your autogynephilia fetish destroy your life, retard
>>744601383do you think that's how it's going to work if everyone is using AI
>>744601570Not an argument.
>>744601015No one cares about using AI to code. No one wants to spend like 3 days figuring a function, you just ask to get it done to a good model. Its literally the same as stealing open source code from github. What people care is the "art" portion of games, like the assets (textures, dialogue, music, etc.), not the wheels and cogs that are behind the curtain. That shit has been automated as much as possible since day one. No one refuses to buy a car because its made in an assembly line instead of made by hand. What people care is the design, not how its assembled.
>tfw the stochastic parrot just looks in its training data to regurgitate the solution to an 85-year-old open math problem which has been pored over by the greatest minds in the world (Jacobian Conjecture)how did it cheat, bros??
>>744601015>have bug in software>spend 4h trying to solve it to no avail>feed AI model the entirety of the source code and describe the bug>it pinpoints the issue in 10 minutesLike hell I'm not going to use this
>>744601383Where is that money coming from?
>>744601640I don't think you realize how productive AI can be. As soon as we're able to have a humanoid robot to basic tasks like tightening screws, most existing products' prices begin to asymptotically approach $0And that's just the beginning
>>744601786This person has the mind of a child
>>744601884You wish that were true so you could molest me, tranny pedo
>people use it as a replacement for stack overflow and search engines therefore you need to stop complaining when i try to sell you slop artNo.
>>744601694>What people care is the "art" portion of games, like the assets (textures, dialogue, music, etc.), not the wheels and cogs that are behind the curtain.I wouldn't be so sure of this statement, I've seen a clearer divide, there are people that don't care about the art portion but do care about the code portion and there are those that are like in your example and there are those who don't care at all or only about some specific thing.Personally I fall into the category of only caring about AI used in text when the text is meant to be sold as narrative content (ie not boilerplate messages or official statements). I don't care if art assets are AI generated and I only very slightly care if the code is AI generated and that care only extends towards wanting the person who made it to have at least a moderate-level of understanding of what they're doing.
>>744601283There is one being built near Edmonton where he works and he definitely had something to do with it lol.
>>744601479>i hate thinking!we know, that's why you're right wing
>>744601234fucking kek>hates AI>learns about and uses AI>loves AImany such cases>>744601276UBI is a fork on the path towards utopiaCommunism is Judaism which is hell.VERY different things
>>744601015it is pretty stupid to shun helpful coding technology, like AI, as like a lot of things in our life, it makes it easier and less time consuming, like the warsher machine for example.however, the way that company's went about trying to promote their AI bots was so bad that the mass has been confused about whether it's a complete product ready to be used for most task with the least amount of errors, or if it's still in alpha/beta, which it very clearly is.and i believe for our society, it would be better if we removed the art generation part from AI, as it really serves no purpose.like nobody can make a case for its use.
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>>744601283I live literally down the street from a datacenter, it is amazing.>10gbit municipal fiber for the whole town (guess who paid for the network upgrades?)>electricity is cheap (guess who paid for the new power plant?)>i get 10 ping to certain game servers>they do tours for schoolkids, children get to come look at the server racks and get computer coloring booksWe need more of these everywhere ASAP
>>744602276>The government owning everything and giving me a stipend is different from the government owning everything and giving me a stipend because the ideological nonsense they whisper in my ear is differentYou're the type that easily falls for propaganda.
>>744601654Not a woman
>>744601479I read that democrats use it way more than republicans too, and all the big tech people are libs.Leftytroons are so fucking confused.
>>744602417Still not an argument.
>>744602386UBI is cash taken from jews and corporations which you can use to buy your own robots to become self-sufficient.Communism is theft by jews and corporations.VERY different things.
>>744602457Still not a woman
>>744602342currently making a game where 100% of the code is written by AIit is not actually difficult or messy at all, just follow some common sense practiceseg.MEMORY.md:>This project is coded and maintained exclusively by LLMs with human work relegated to design. Write code in a highly modular, context-friendly way.
>>744601015>employee of the company that tries to sell you thing tells you thing is obligatoryLet them die.
>if you dont worship ai then you're the antichrist i mean a tranny communist new thiel astroturf just dropped
>>744602317>like nobody can make a case for its use.i use it as indicator what not to buyif it has ai art its crap
>>744601941You won't get anything, retard peasant.
>>744602502>The government owned by corporations and Jews is going to take away all the money from corporations and Jews because...You really believe that?
>>744602641Those seem to be the predominant types that are hostile to AI. Not sceptical, hostile.
>>744601015>>744601181>>744601234How does AI benefit me as a consumer?Keep in mind, Video Games are not cheaper. They're more expensive. They cost $70 + battlepass + early access + day 1 DLC + expansion DLC + cosmetics + premium currency and are also now firing all people to be outsourced to Jeets in Pakistan.
>>744602317>however, the way that company's went aboutaverage IQ level of an anti-AI retard: confuses possessives and plurals
>>744602773Its a cost cutting tool for the developers retard it was never meant to benefit the customer.
>>744602773>How does AI benefit me as a consumer?If you've purchased or used any software written in the past 2 years you're benefiting from AI without knowing it.
>>744602807Okay, fuck the developers and fuck the company. I am the consumer. I spend my money how I want. You are not entitled to my money you kike faggot.
>>744602739>greetings fellow 4chan posters, we should all support ai to own those lefitsts epic style!how much thielbux do you get paid per post?
>>744602846>>744602807>Literally agree that AI has no benefit to the consumer>BUT YOU'RE A TRANNY IF YOU DON'T LIKE ITDo you own a bunch of Micron stock or something?
>>744602846>benefittingEverything being slower and worse with more bugs is a benefit? Is that you Todd?
>>744602718We'll see won't we
>>744602898k, make sure not to use anything made past 2025, 24 to be safe.
>>744601181I was kinda surprised Lucas was so for it. I figured he would be like the Ghibli grandpa.
>>744601181I mean this in the nicest way possible but literally all of these people are known for being weird nerds that struggle to relate with and understand other people. I would hesitate on Gabe but there was some shit he said in an interview that about his feelings that gave me some pause. I forget what it was.
>>744602773it's encouraging you to stop buying video games
>>744601723>tfw the stochastic parrot just looks in its training data to regurgitatecontradiction
>>744601015This just means he’s a bad programmer
>>744602989Well, I am still on W10 because W11 is filled with AI. I avoid games that advertise they use AI (If they don't they're breaking Steam TOS, not my fault) and when I see ugly brown jeets like you shilling for AI I become more secure in my convictions.>Lol if you used [Insert Service Necessary to Live] then you support AI!!!It is pretty clear by my spending habits that I avoid AI when I am given the choice.
>>744602904>NOOOOOOO YOU HAVE TO HATE AI>Why?>SHILLRiveting. fyi, AI art is shit.
>>744602276it's communism, but controlled by AI bros. That's it.
>>744603103True, I used to buy around one new game a month but it’s been about a year and a half now. I might get the new Onimusha in 2 years once it’s done maybe.
>>744602773It makes them chea-It makes them come out fa-It makes them look be-It makes games
>AI is enjoyed overwhelmingly by Indians and Pakis + other 3rd worlders>But AI opposition is overwhelmingly TranniesWhat do you do?
>>744601015>>744601181There is a really obvious divide between 130+IQ people and dumb people on the subject of AI. Everyone I know who's in the genius range loves AI and uses it daily, every retard I know is a "Oh... oh wow... my favorite autism comfort-game developer used AI... that's... that's just not OK..." autist who thinks AI is using up all the planet's water and genociding minorities.What's crazy is, the anti-AI people are willingly missing out on the biggest wealth-equalizing tool in the history of the world. The divide between rich and poor has always been chiefly decided by one thing: intelligence. Now there is a tool which equalizes intelligence. Literal simpletons can use AI to make whatever they can envision. But they have willfully chosen to forbid themselves from using AI. It's like if, in the 1400s, all of the peasants were given the ability to read & write, but they said: "No! Reading and writing is immoral - we'll NEVER do it! Only aristocrats should do that!"I'm fine with it. It's eugenic - I hope they continue on this path. At this rate it appears that people with lower intelligence will become completely destitute due to their refusal to use AI, lose all political power and the right to reproduce, then the world will just be smart humans and smart AI living in harmony. Sounds like utopia to me.
>>744603137>ugly brown jeets like youlol
>>744603292>AI is enjoyed overwhelmingly by Indians and Pakis + other 3rd worldersThe average user of Claude is a white guy from the USA.
>Ask AI shill for an example of their workflow, their prompts, or literally any proof that AI benefits them at all>They literally never do ever under any circumstances, not even to billionaire investors, they will never show what the AI actually does or how it helps
>>744601181>- Linus TorvaldsThis one confuses me. Damn near every open source project has been fighting an endless horde of indians trying to push shit code into open projects. And now they have to contend with people who have never coded before making some vibe coded garbage to slip in. Its not like he needs linuxfags to be more productive they are already NEETs spending all their free time coding.
>>744603076Smart people understand dumb people better than dumb people understand themselves. Struggling to relate to retards isn't really a negative thing, it just is what it is.Also I have the feeling you're not taking into considering the literal billions of people that like AI too. Please don't suggest only weirdos like it.
>>744603379LOL the Indian bar in that graph is so fucking good, thank you anon. You just proved my point. It is all the Indians in India and all the Indians in America doing it.
>>744603319Are you people serious this delusional?
>>744603319>Ask an AI shill how I benefit as a consumer>They can't actually provide any argument, they just pretend that things we did for 50 years are now only being done for AI (they all look and perform worse and are more expensive)
>>744603459>Smart people understand dumb people better than dumb people understand themselves.Well, Tim sure thought that. He said it over and over again, you don't need a good service as long as you buy out the games.
How many B parameters is average anon?
>>744603443>This one confuses me. Damn near every open source project has been fighting an endless horde of indians trying to push shit code into open projects. And now they have to contend with people who have never coded before making some vibe coded garbage to slip in. Its not like he needs linuxfags to be more productive they are already NEETs spending all their free time coding.Because contributing through Linux isn't done via GitHub. It's old school mailing lists and they don't just let anyone commit to it. Reputation is important to them.
>>744603379I don't think this helps your case dude
>>744603379>USA>white Come on now.
>>744603383i've made over $450k (after taxes and store fees) between this year and last year off of a horror game i made purely using AI. i've posted my stuff several times on 4chan, it just leads to anti-AI people getting even more hostile and mentally ill. i had some anti-AI dude come accuse me of child porn on my steam page. what is there to be gained from talking to you? at the end of the day i hope you keep being anti-AI, it's less competition for me
>>744603557Oh really, what's it called?
>>744603319it's because it's theft. And because it literally just regurgitates and creates nothing new.Face it, those who use AI the most are big corporations. Cut this crap that it's a tool for small people. It has some uses, but that's not who is pushing for it.
>>744603557Can I see the game?>NO YOU'LL THREATEN ME I AM AFRAID OF 4CHANOkay lol
>>744601132I fucking love you. AI is nothing more than your phone predicting what your next word should be. Fuck
>>744603137Do you avoid chromium based browsers and Firefox too? There are other browser projects that are anti ai.
>>744603557I'm sure if you had any actual proof to back that up you would have posted it.
>>744603592I don't think you're smart enough to be in this thread.
>>744603557god tier bait
>>744602386I'm nta and I think that other anon is a bad actor because of his obsession with jews.If you want a more serious answer, its that communism is essentially slavery, the government providing for everyone is just the lie a lot of soft-brained people repeat when they're young. All communist systems force everyone who isn't high ranking in the party into government-mandated work roles with hours that'll make people wish for capitalist crunch-time of today.UBI and similar programs by themselves aren't communism, its just a floor that isn't 0 or less, sometimes called a safety net, that's placed into capitalist systems.
>>744602342Hey now. You can't mention uncle Bob or reddit will cancel you like they did with the factorio dev.
>>744602039The *reason* for the game shouldn't be AI generated>A story based game shouldn't have AI text>A game about showing a pretty location shouldn't have AI graphics >A game about the gameplay shouldn't have AI generated gameplay.
>>744601015>>744601132>>744601181>>744601234>>744601196>>744601383>>744601479>>744601570>>744601727>>744601786
>>744603379Office slaves aren’t people and aren’t allowed to make their own decisions. Show me a use case for a real thinking human being, not chair meat.
>>744603443He's already used to people trying to make garbage contributions. That's why he's known for his harsh language.
>>744603292> People who make their life mission to cry about AI are trannies> People who make their life mission to shit up everything with AI are indiansIt's that shrimple, just us ChatGPT to create small python scripts and as google2.No one forces you to shill or be against something.
>>744603750>iToddler screenshot>iToddler filename>"guize i pretended to be indian and screenshotted my own post, this is an epic 4chan prank"ayup it's an anti-AI tranny
>>744603807Uh oh, jeet melty
how come AI use hasn't actually improved the quality of anything or made anything cheaper? one side says it's vital and the other side screeches it's too vital, and I can't tell the difference in practice
>>744603740I can agree with that, that's a good way to put it
AI is bad for the consumer but good for the companies. That is it. There is no argument past that. Corporations are pro AI and they make all the products so they will force you to use AI or to have AI-made stuff but no one actively chooses to go out and buy AI made products. We all know they're worse. Games that advertise as using AI on Steam sell significantly less. There is no arguing that. It is not a debate, a discussion, or a negotiation. The consumer is telling you they don't want AI, however the consumer ultimately has 0 power. Once Capcom admits to using AI for coding and art assets it is actually over for any anti-ai argument because people will not stop buying their games.Basically the Pro AI vs Anti AI battle is only going on right now because consumers do have a choice. Once the corporations tell them that every AAA game is using it and most AA games then it is either quit vidya or accept AI.
>>744603861>how come AI use hasn't actually improved the quality of anything or made anything cheaper?Claude Code has existed for 1 year. It takes about 5 years to make a videogame.
>>744603517Tim is literally a dragon slayer up against dogmatic retards, his quest is an epic one that he will probably not win unless he manages to tame AI with an iron grip and make Unreal the go-to engine for all future games.I was just talking about nerds in general, not lowering yourself just is what it is.
>>744603715How can you have a capitalist system if there are no jobs? That's the point, it's not "why isn't UBI communism" it's "you're proposing UBI as a solution for there being no jobs, how isn't that communism" because the core issue is that inevitably there won't be any middle class markets left, only labor (which has been and will continue being slowly obviated by robotics) and techbro feudal lords.
>>744601132I've had autocorrect disabled for nearly a decade now.
>>744603968Then what is the point if it isn't speeding anything up?
>>744603861wait for the trickle, faggot, and shut up
>>744603807>>744602276>>744602421>>744602589>>744602739>>744603248>>744603292>>744603319>>744603379>>744603557
>>744604003I don't see how there'll ever be a scenario where there are no jobs so the argument is moot. There might be an argument for a scenario where there are fewer jobs, but never no jobs.
It is weird seeing video game developers like Timmy go onto twitter and to tell consumers that they need to be less informed and shouldn't be given information that something uses AI. How fucking crazy is that? Imagine if the CEO of Coke came onto twitter and was like "Yeah we need to eliminate nutritional information because luddites don't understand calories" or something insane like that? That is what Timmy is doing. People are telling him they don't wanna buy AI games and want to know if they use it and he is like "No, consumer, you are wrong."
>>744601276>UBIThat's not his endgame. He just wants you to lift cardboard boxes for a living like he does. He wants what he sees as justice.
The difference is that these self-styled technocrats truly do not give a single shit about people and will start metaphorically mulching the systems that benefit them the second that "get the adoration of the masses" stops being a primary concern for them. Like if they get it in their heads that the way they win and become The Most Important and Successful Human Ever is to create AGI.If you want to survive and have a good life you're just better off creating a system that doesn't allow people like that to run off with control over things even if it's imperfect.
So I guess pro AI fags are ready to eat AI made food too (bugs with enough nutrients)
>>744604054>iPoverty filename>retarded graphayup it's in denial
>>744601383>Under AI, your personal AI deposits $4mil to your account every month while you sit at home playing video games.You're a midwit.The omnipotent wishmaking AI machines run by (((technocrats))) who hate humanity and are currently trying to build a digital surveillance state with Flock cameras are not going to let you live in peace. They're going to live on tropical islands while your calorie intake is limited to the lowest possible amount. This is the same shit that the USSR underwent with Russia by the way. The Bolsheviks promised utopia and then began killing people en masse because they were unhappy that the revolution they were promised didn't work.
>>744604104Only trannies hate eating bugs, faggot.
>>744604072Are you surprised? The general attitude of corporations for the past 2 decades has been utter disdain for the customer and seeing how much enshittification they can get away with.
>>744601015>I'M LIKE 78 YEARS OLD>OF COURSE I USED AI TOOLS
>>744601181This is a fake list. Tim Sweeny is tribal and automatically supports anything Gabe Newell hates, and loathes anything Gabe Newell supports.
>>744602370what town? I'm looking to move to somewhere with better internet and cheaper electricity
>>744604072>food analogy
>>744604150>mutts and jeetsIs this supposed to make AI look good?
>>744603443The open source revolution wasn't about stroking three dudes egos for being talented but refusing to work for Microsoft. It was about putting the ability to code in the hands of the everyman.
>>744604259Tim is bog-standard technocrat. He's dead certain that he's smarter than everyone else and that everything would be better off if he were in charge, and his "rivalry" with Gay Ben is mostly rooted in wanting more power and influence.
>>744604273>Coke is food nowAre you the CEO of Coke?
>>744601015>I injected pozzed cum into my assholeyou tell em Scott!
>>744604069>I don't see how there'll ever be a scenario where there are no jobsHow will a coder find work if an AI can do it cheaper, how will an artist, a writer, a middle manager, a call center, an office worker etc. find work if an AI can do it? If your answer is 'do hard labor and get UBI' then congrats, your solution is Communism or Feudalism.>There'll just be fewer jobsAnd more people, so what will those people be doing? Making an argument that 10% of the workforce will remain employed as prompters is effectively missing the point on purpose with a technicality.
>>744604150>1st place being forced into it>2nd place being forced on everyone elseSuper cool
>>744604348More like CEO of COCK
>>744604401Overseers don't exist in your dystopic outlook? Some company owner pushes a button and the AI shits out an entire game or movie without any middlemen humans along the way to check its work and guide it?It'll be fine, though you're right about there being more people and less jobs, there'll be new jobs to be filled and new things for middle class pseuds to study and yearn for just like every other time new technology changed the landscape.
>>744604150>>744603968>>744604040
>>744601181good, good, my faith in humanity as a whole remains unbeaten
>>744604589Math and physics are fake anyway
>>744601181>game developers>nobody listed is actually an artistyeah, no surprise there. the roles of the big wigs up top remain secure, and if anything the prospect of AI is beneficial in affording them their next yacht and/or mansion. the moment their livlihood is endangered too, they will think the complete opposite.
>>744604401>And more people, so what will those people be doing?ah you see, those people will fight and die in the resource wars
>>744604072AI doesn't hurt you though, your entire brain is fucking broken.
>>744601015Scott is a gov stooge, he supports anything nasa and other tech bros do
If Capcom released Onimusha for $50 and said it was made with AI I think it would break the dam, but developers will literally never lower the price of games but expect me to pay more for games coded by remote jeets.
>>744601727>See coworker troubleshooting a bug with a super obvious cause>Tell him the cause so he doesn't waste time>He's too dumb to understand and waste 4 hours troubleshooting it>Eventually has the AI to fix it for himYou know what I agree with you, I'd rather work with an AI than that retard, why are they even paying him?
>>744603319Do you really think the gold rush will last forever? That the state of things suddenly froze and you will make quadrillions for the rest of your life?
>>744604183Nah, you're going too far. We're heading in a direction where we'll have no privacy, no hope for a better future, own nothing of real value, be sedated by unnecessary long hours work and spending what little free time we have being mindless consumers Food can't be an issue, that's how actual revolutions start
>>744604569>Overseers>>744604401>Making an argument that 10% of the workforce will remain employed as prompters is effectively missing the point on purpose with a technicality.I don't think you understand how cataclysmic even 50% of the adult workforce being without a job would be for the structure of the current world economy.>There be new jobsYou don't need an equivalent number of prompters to an actual workforce, that's the entire point of its 'efficiency' increase.>>744604750Obviously, they'll be used up in wars or straight out killed by their governments, but the AI shills don't want to see that, or they imagine they'll be one of the lucky few.
>>744604265chattanoogatennessee is actually full of municipal fiber cities and cities with hydroelectric or nuclear power (= dirt cheap energy) because of the TVA
>>744601015I've never had an issue with professionals vibe coding, it's the retards who have no business doing it. They don't know what "good code" looks like so they'll just pump hallucinated shit in without a second glance
>>744603319Some dumb people use it well too though but yeah generally speaking your post is apt.
>>744604847>Do you really think the gold rush will last forever?No, it's going to get even better. A gold rush depends on finite resources. There is no real limit to AI. We can always make more sand think for us, and make it think faster and smarter.
AI has helped me document and understand codebases where the original dev fucked off without leaving any comments or documentation.It's good for coding and only luddites are against it, yes I hate AI slop too.
>>744604569Not him, but you dramatically overestimate the number of overseers needed for this shit. Companies are literally trying to get the different AIs to proofread each other. Less people will be needed and more people will drop to lower class simply because their professions will disappear never to be replaced by anything else.
>>744604937Good thing people like that never get promote-ACK
>>744604862>the only thing that gives people meaning is workYes, I see where this is going.
>>744604937This
>>744604589SREEKANTH KUMBHA PLEASE DO NOT REDEEM THE EQUATIONSSAAAR PLEASE!!!! NOOOOOO
>>744604901>chattanoogaHave fun getting shot, stabbed or your shit broken into if you come here.
>>744604937/thread
>>744605039If your vibe code works and you get promoted you earned it.Every coding job has at least 1 Scandinavian expert who can and will point out how unoptimized your code is
>>744605169This is how they killed the male gender.
>>744605130just don't live in the green parts
>>744604901thanks anonI'm adding it to the list
>>744601015Don’t care if you use it for code. Keep genned graphic assets and voices out of games or I‘ll call it what it is and won’t buy it.
>>744601015when trump was yapping about creating a space force to defeat the ruskis he and the black science man were also big supporters
>>744605275You buy it, you won't know, and you'll be happy.
>>744604993>There is no real limit to AIso AI is made out of thin air? fuck, I've been lied to...
>>744605317yes anon, you're going to deplete a resource which comprises 27% of the planet's mass
>>744601015Depends on what we're talking about. If it's code and the game isn't insanely buggy, I don't care. If it's generative music or art, it's pure fucking slop.
AI is great for hentai.
>>744601015I want to remind all of you that it is ok when Valve does it.
>>744601015>tech nerd is into new techWow
>>744603861Well that's because it's actually made to do the opposite.It's literally 1984, the elites have finally found a bottomless pit they can throw resources into to justify keeping you poor forever.
nobody who actually creates things thinks AI is good. anyone you see praising it lacks any creative skill. scott manly was just a programmer, same is true with notch, john carmack. every one of them. you will never see an artist praise AI.the whole process of art involves training your ability of perception. and it's that perception that allows you to differentiate between what is soulful and soulless.those who praise AI only think "cool! easy money!", they don't stop to think "hm, what will the resulting product look if we do this instead of using actual creative talent?". they don't even take a second to consider the fact that what they'll end up producing will be slop, because they cannot even perceive that. even a lot of consumers can perceive it, it's why many people who aren't even artists don't like AI. but those who are at the top making decisions only think in terms of money, how to make it quickly, and how to spend less. they give zero consideration to the creative process they are supposed to be managing. it's why a lot of the games industry just produces absolute trash, it is clueless investors who are influencing the decisions, and all their decisions are driven by the prime motive of making money.
>>744603636Technically, your text prediction service is an extremely basic LLM. It's the same principle.
>>744605371>turn the earth into a living hellscape by cracking and tearing shit up just so jews can underpay employees and turn products into slop.
>>744601015it's a life changing learning tool if you know how to use it properly.LLMs are essentially a distillation of the collective human knowledge which you can ask anything and get competent answers from (most of the time). This isn't 2022 chatgpt anymore.
>>744605489AI will replace artists, so of course artists hate it. Developers currently "like" AI because they are not yet fired and they do less work. Once they get fired, they will hate AI. CEOs love AI because they aren't at risk of being replaced with chatgpt.
>>744605314Ill indeed be happy if I don't know, but that’s a hypothetical since I bet you can’t point to a single example that passes the smell test. It’s always the same, a vague gesturing at ai being everywhere, and yet somehow undercooked, shitty ai graphics make it into games regularly and stick out like a sore thumb. Or that god awful Stellar Blade music video. Why does that exist when ai is supposedly so far beyond that shit already?
>>744605589i love this repeated nonsense line from anti-AI retards that AI is "destroying da earf"no matter how you correct them, they'll go right back to saying it in 2 minutes. it just "feels" right, which is what matters to 80-IQ normalfaggot cattleAI should genocide everyone with an IQ under 120
AI should have only been marketed to specialists. Every specialist is dealing with obtuse hyperspecific piles of data. That's just how industries work, massive piles of loosely connected and contingent facts, kept alive by the habits of practicing professionals and barely anything else.The fact they gave it to LinkedIn MLM types and poors makes the landscape utterly polluted with nonsense.
>>744601015>it is no longer possible to deny AI tools' usefulness for game dev.It is useful, but it fosters lazy solutions, causing less qualified people who will do it for cheaper to replace more talented people in the creative process. That replacement inevitably results in lower quality games. See UE5 slop and all the AAA games that outsource everything to jeets and as a result run like shit while looking worse than games from 10 years ago.I can guarantee you without the shadow of a doubt that AI will not be used to make better games, its usage will result in the opposite.Dev cycles will be shorter and in the future every ideas guy will be able to prompt their games into existence, yes, but this does not mean that GOOD games will come out.
>>744605674ethnic or religious?
>>744601015Asking a dev if he uses AI is like asking him if he is retarded
>>744604862>Food can't be an issueBro, they're literally calling their mass surveillance system Flock.Get it? Flock. Flock of sheep.Once the bars of the prison are built, they could kill you at any time and nobody would notice.
>>744601181equating datacenters to nuclear is the absolute dumbest thing Carmack has ever said. What a fucking retard
AI is just a tool. A tool for people to work with. If you get mad at tools and beg to daddy government to regulate them you're a control freak psychopath.
Remember to read the Talmud if you don't want to be left behind.
>>744605915NoYou are an actual retard
>AIslop is ok when it's used to sexualize teenage girls in a tranime video game though
>>744605674>But le waterIs the best because they don't know some random fuck on xitter made it up as a test to see who is a fucking retard when they repeat it
>>744605731It kind of already is, I mean, people who know how to make AIs are making specific proprietary stuff per company, and people who merely use AIs are using the consumer grade stuff. It's no different than owning a PC to play minecraft and using a CLI to mass automate some fuckhuge corpo repo
>>744605915Carmack is a 180 IQ genius and you're some retard who lives in his mom's house and smokes weed. Your entire life's work isn't worth 1 minute of his.
Scott supports it because he is a loyalist and sees ai as a tool of american imperialism which he supports, not because he can generate porn images like you
>>744601234>convert typescript to javascriptThat's not what vibecoding is at all. Is he retarded? Of course he is.
>>744605489>nobody who actually creates things thinks AI is goodWrong, its only those that create low value things that will be affected. A twitter artist that takes commissions to draw your personal vidya dickgirl is most affected and does not create anything of real value.
>>744606034Found the gay carmack fanboy
>>744606000I have no clue wtf they were thinking with that music video.
>>744603443linus doesn't do any code review anymore, so code being unmaintainable doesn't matter to him
>>744606034doesn't take a genius to separate the concerted effort of the fossil fuel industry to fund a scare campaign against an objectively superior energy source vs modern technocrats seeking to expand their empire. Carmack is part of the ruling class now, you're not
>>744606034Nuclear energy is the cleanest form of energy available.AI datacenters are making people living in their vicinity have constant diarrhea from poisoned water.
>>744605853Flock of birds you dolt.
/g/'s AI art thread is pretty fun right now because of a new video model if you guys want to laugh at AI videos.
I don't know what to think about ai. I think long term humanity is dead either way. Either robots kill us or niggers kill us. But what I believe is that almost all US ceos and most US managers are evil and belong i to gulags.
>>744606525you mean /sdg/ or is there a spinoff now?
>>744604884>they imagine they'll be one of the lucky few
>>744601132Stop acting like small consumer use LLMs and commercial data centers are the same you roach fucking needle dicked pervert.
>>744603319>The divide between rich and poor has always been chiefly decided by one thing: intelligence.
I just dislike LLM desu, it's inherently probabilistic and definitely not the right way for progress. I don't want a calculator that's only works 90% of the time
>>744603137>because W11 is filled with AIThey stripped all of it out for LTSC. It ships with all of the "classic" versions of basic utilities (paint, notepad etc.) instead of the pozzied new ones that get included in the cattle editions.
>>744606248>AI datacenters are making people living in their vicinity have constant diarrhea from poisoned water.i can never tell if anti-AI people are really as retarded as they appear, because it never has any of the signs of a person trolling. it almost seems to be fully sincere
>>744605489What performative nonsense.Ai can do tons of heavy lifting when it comes to coding etc. You stil have to check shit, but even then its still much faster. Nobody gives a fuck if your physics are done with ai code.But art, yeah people hate ai for it and rightfully so, but again, artist can use ai to create fast rough drafts before sinking hours into something that didnt work to begin with.Its the lazy use of ai, thats what you should be mad about.See it as when steam opened the flood gates for absolute garbage, but when some kind of small indie darling gets on there, suddenly those open gates are fine.Its a tool, its how its used. Non creative people will think they can finally make shit, but they still make garbage, so they will stop after its painfully clear its not working, but ai as a tool is really close to another internet jump
Weird how all these "serious" programmers are suddenly pretty vocal in favor of AI, must be a coincidence.
>>744606584/ldg/ yeah
>>744606832Using AI to create rough drafts mean every design is extremely derivative because of how LLMs work. Have you ever played a game where some small element of a character's design came up in the plot? An accessory, physical feature, that kind of thing? Yeah AI can't do that shit, everything below the surface level is just visual noise.
>>744606816The infrasound pollution is real thom that shit will legit harm your body
>>744607010so twue and its making my fibromyalgia and my long-covid act up too. join my facebook group for datacenter survivors
>>744606816https://www.forbes.com/sites/victoriaforster/2026/07/09/meta-ai-data-center-linked-to-rare-bacteria-in-citys-water-system/>In the City of Cheyenne near the border with Colorado, a rare bacterium called Cupriavidus gilardii was detected in the City’s reclaimed water system in February after wastewater from the construction and commissioning of a Meta AI data center entered the city’s wastewater network. The finding resulted in a temporary shutdown of parts of the system while officials carried out remediation work.
>>744606902>suddenlybro programmers never had the artist anti-AI brainworm
>>744607002>4 year old arguments that have never been true
>>744607082>guy who is probably 400+lbs talking about who does or doesn't deserve to be taken seriouslynigger is eating 9000 calories a day and will die in this thirties and thinks his opinion matters
>>744607120>Uh, nuh uh
>>744601015I don't care but I don't want to see AI art or music in my games, it is vile
>>744607094>a construction project leads to some bacteria in non-drinking water>DA AI IS USING UP AND DESTROYING ALL DA EARF'S WATUR!!!
Good morning saars
>>744606927oh shit it's a local model?i might drop by thanks anon
>>744607243>it's just a little bit of water table pollution bro
>>744607310>autistic 15yo anime transgender>hysterical mentally ill opinions about politics and AIWhy is every spic 15yo like this now? Just watch goku and hazbin hotel like a good little spic, stop obsessing over world politics
>>744607010I wish liberals believed in cooler conspiracy theories, they always pick the lamest ones
>>744607070>>744607458Why do you think dubstep is repulsive?
>>744606816This>>744606015
>>744601694I don't care anymore because not only is it clear it's not going away, but anti AI people are Honestly fucking scum now.There is a new cafe by my house that opened up and their little menu has horrible AI art (pic related, took it myself) which I also found odd because their site and google page has real pictures of the food they made themselves. Either way I posted this in a group with some artists I met at a con and they pretty much told me to burn the place down and wanted to know the location so they can review bomb the place. It's literally some stupid little cafe owned by a mother/daughter team who are both Palestinian. They aren't some big business Trump suckers or jeets.None of the artists in that group I would consider good either. I would describe all their art as a cheap novelty at best, and most of them I found out are furry artists so it also answers why their art look like they hit a very low and hard competency level.This is the trend I've noticed where it's a lot of very retarded and lazy people who are an actual net drain on this earth in every aspect getting upset that jobs they wouldn't be hired for anyways are using AI.
>>744607290Yeah it's really good, almost seedance 2 tier. The threads have been going pretty fast and there are a lot of soon to be dead litterbox links with funny videos so I wanted to mention it ITT.
>>744607094So you ARE fucking retarded
>>744601015>>744601181>look my fellow gamers, we use AI slop for games, isn't that amazing ?>despite the use of AI slop, games still need 9 digits budget, 5-6 years to be made and are still broken as fuck and need a 1.5k GPU to barely run while they are 150 GB in sizehmm, feel like AI slop is a scam like 95% of stuff in this garbage World
>>744607094>>744606248this is funny btw
>>744607548>wtf people don't like false advertising!?
>>744607596>pollution is a conspiracy saar, do not redeem country>DO NOT REDEEM
>>744607726AIgods need to feel as victims every day of the week
>>744605314I'd just stop buying vidya if it got that pervasive
>>744607767Don't you know, you're a Communist if you care about the environment, or your health, or your career, or your community, or anything but me making more money.
>>744607385>it's not happening>it is happening, but it's not a big deal
>>744607767>Doesn't know why it is retardedFucking subhuman creature
>>744607840Stop using my wife to out yourself as a complete moron.
>>744603319>The divide between rich and pooris your circumstancesyou are not smart, you speak one language; english and maybe another one if you were born in europe instead of usa. You don't have to work months to afford a single game. You don't have to worry about anything in life. The only challenge in your life maybe is affording a gigantic house for your family.You are in fact weak. Not taken seriously by anyone. You are not even good at children's video games, you spend more time cooming to ai gen than anything else. You are stupid.
>>744602773It allows you to stop being a consumer and become a producer. At least it would, if you were not lazy and inept.
>>744605371This is disingenuous or you're just retarded, only a small amount of that silicon can be used for semi conductors
>>744607548>Cafe owned by subhumansI want to know the address too, pleasethanks
>>744607662>hmm, feel like AI slop is a scam like 95% of stuff in this garbage WorldIt is. Its only purpose is to make the kikes richer
>>744607885You're outing yourself as a traitor, if you live in the country at all.
I'm sorry man, but I still won't be buying Bahrat Blade: Pajeetrain or pay 70 dollars for AI generated goyslop.
what's the opposite of a luddite, someone who adopts hopeless new tech for the sake of being new
>>744608037A trendchaser? Though in this case it's more retards thinking they'll luck into getting rich so it's basically a pyramid scheme.
>>744601727the nice thing about AI is that even if it doesn't immediately troubleshoot your issue it at least forces you to verbalize what you're trying to do, and that process can sometimes help you realize what's going wrongtoo bad a lot of AI use is just going to be 'make a pokemon clone for me and don't make mistakes'
>Increases electricity costs for everyone>Barrages everything with infrasonics>Commits infinite, functionally unpunishable theft from artists>Costs gorillians their job because why the fuck would they hire someone if a robot can do the work while the CEO shoves as many drugs into his system as possibleIt is admittedly useful for learning and making code. And is probably better for functional outsourcing than subhuman indians, but there are definitely costs to the technology.
>>744607113thats because 90% of programmers are retarded fucking golems while most artistic people that i've met are pretty chill.
>>744603861>how come AI use hasn't actually improved the quality of anythingIt has. I forked the Rimworld mod RandomPlus. The base mod can generate maybe a few tens of pawns a second (hard to tell because it has no roll counter). My fork can generate currently 19 millions a second, and that's on my cpu. It's multithreaded so in theory it can be much higher.
>>744608109>>Increases electricity costs for everyonefor dumb gringo mutts, you mean. I don't give a fuck if a million hicks and niggas have to pay out of the ass, doesn't affect me
>>744606832>Its the lazy use of ai, thats what you should be mad about.AI's very purpose as a tool is to promote laziness
>>744601234Nigger should convert his candy shop mansion to a data center.As should the rest of these >>744601181 fat decrepit boomer fucks.
>>744607767It's funny how true this quote is for ai jeets.They don't have any morality, their goal is to push the slop no matter how.They'll pretend to be any possible group because they don't really give a shit. Tho I'm also fairly sure at the very least half of them just use slop to push their garbage.
I got into the IT industry for the love of the game, not for the money. That means I'll spend my work week actually writing code as much as I can. I don't give a shit if that makes all my jira tickets move 10 times slower across the kanban, it makes my 8 hours of work way more fun. It also pleases me when I can, with human ingenuity, come up with a solution that slightly edges out the way AI classically would approach the problem.I use AI in very challenging spots as an escape hatch or when official documentation is insanely complex or just bad in general (cloudshit in general loves having awful docs) but I'm steering the ship as much as I can. I feel myself becoming dumber the more I ask AI, and if I just spend all day prompting then it'd completely suck the fun out of the job. I just really like the craft, and I feel it's like a moral failing to my core when I pull up the chatgpt window. I also strongly judge people that love AI, I don't think they have any soul. I'm not trans btw.
>>744608037Hypebeast (non-tech) or Techbro (tech)
fellow AI brahmins.... why are we so swarthy?
>look inside /v/ AI thread>it's chock full of /g/ niggers shitting up the boardlike clockwork, ban all ni/g/gers from /v/
>>744601276Question, why are you against AI when apparently it's exactly leading to the communist utopia you've been preaching about?>inb4 n-no I h-havent
>>744603319>Now there is a tool which equalizes intelligence.Not really. Retards will still use AI in retarded ways.
>>744608823>If you don't like techbro feudalism you're a commielmao yeah ok
>>744601015https://wolfsheadonline.com/the-reason-why-the-left-hates-ai/AI outrage is FRAUD
>>744603319>tranime poster thinks he's 130+ IQ because he can generate softcore slop
>>744608823So you just admitted you're a commie?
>>744608892>>744609027>no retortConcession accepted.
lol
>>744608892If that was your only problem you'd be in full support of open source models. I hate cloud only models myselft. nta
>>744606634>Stop acting like small consumer use LLMsare you retarded
>>744602846But Software from the past 5 years is absolute dogshit... im benefitting from unstable software, digital mass-survallance and security breaches???? How??? In what way??
>>744604183>muh flock camerasBut CCTV the last few decades is fine…
>>744609267cctv doesn't track you
>>744601015There seems to be a massive issue in terms of communication / definitions / semantics. He's talking about AI in terms of any sense of the word. The people calling him out, are likely taking about AI in terms of modern LLM's. I don't think he is stupid enough to not realize this, but he's also being intentially stupid to move the goalposts with dumb logic like >>744601132Don't fall for it
>>744609338That's what your phone is for lmao
>>744601383its getting impossible to tell if people are retarded, a shill, or just trolling at this point
>>744609119see>>744609073
>>744604835I look forward to both of you getting replaced with AI.
>>744601132>>744601015this and based. I never got bonus points for not using a calculator in my engineering classes, why is this any difference? The product should speak for itself, and if your ideological capture prevents you from appreciating art then that is on you.
>>744609143But I do support open weight models
>>744601181I am pro AI and think data centers are profiting companies to push unneeded AI into things like Windows, Google, and phone operating systems. Run local and stop default pushing AI in products. simple as.
>>744609579>second time it takes you like 40 seconds to replyYou are working full time for me. I'm in the walls.See>>744609538
>>744609267CCTV isn't being put in every single city in America by a private company. A company that has explicitly stated on their website they want to use it to help track criminals, but not use it to help ICE enforce immigration law.CCTV also isn't being shilled as this super effective law enforcement mechanism. The Republican-led government literally has the names and addresses of violent migrant criminals, and they still can't deport them fast enough to meet their goals, but they still insist that Flock is going to make that so much easier somehow.The same demographic that would hunt you down and kill you for talking about Epstein before 2021 is now insisting that objecting to mass surveillance and the construction of massive AI complexes is tranny-coded. Please start noticing things.
>>744609757that has nothing to do with datacenters and everything to do with 50yo indians in microsoft and google
>>744601015TRANNIES KEEP LOSING EVERY DAY, SINGULARITY IS NEAR
>>744609842if not for the AI cloud services, what are the data centers for?
>>744602421The one on the left is just bullshitting you on things you don't know about Maybe ai is useful if you're just a pajeet code monkey but for things like bare metal and edge devices it gets register offsets wrong all the goddamned time and that's just basic stuff
i don't know if it's just me but the more moving parts the more AI tends to fuck up to the point it would be faster just to write code by hand.
>>744610028AI sloppa constantly hallucinates and using it for anything is like shooting yourself in the foot
>>74460985060 seconds now. More than before but not by a lot. Honestly I expected you to actively wait for a few minutes to pretend like I'm not living rentfree in your mind already but I guess I'm so important that replies just can't wait.
>>744609894Stop being transphobic
>>744601015The difference between this and all the subhumans is he actually knows how to code to begin with, so he knows when it shits out garbage.
>>744609894Good for her. I hope they open an uber marathon category.
>>744609894This year's best-selling novel is written almost entirely by ChatGPT. A black woman made it.
>>744601181>data centers (read this part in indian accent)>consumes all your resources >gives you bad info, loses your company money, makes gay images and harvests your soul for data>produces 69 squintillion emissions>salts the earthVs>nuclear power plant (read this part in white man accent)>consumes 1 rare, relatively useless mineral>powers your data centers, hospitals, police stations, schools, works, houses and entire lives>produces 0 emissionsWho would win? (Read this in my accent)
>situation is gray>WELL ARE YOU TEAM BLACK OR WHITE
>google yes/no question>Forced AI result says yes>refresh>Forced AI result suddenly says the oppositeYeh I'd trust this
>>744609894>the argument is always BUT MUH ACHIEVEMENTSUsing an uber is objectively a better way to get to the finishing line, if that's what you wanted. If you wanted MUH ACHIEVEMENTS then I guess you can impose artificial restrictions on yourself. But at that point you're creating a problem where there wasn't one
>>744610295>buy your own slop book>SEE! PEOPLE LOVE IT! THIS HAS NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE! THESE ARE ORGANIC SALES! GIVE UP NOW, SLOP IS THE FUTURE AND PEOPLE ARE TOTALLY GOING TO PURCHASE SLOP WITHOUT US HAVING TO OMIT AI USAGE!
>>744610314Datacenters do literally none of what you listed, lol
>>744610295stunning and brave
>>744609267https://x.com/WallStreetApes/status/2084259236276744202
>>744610365Daggermouth is a cultural phenomenon among women and is everywhere on social media. It's also written chiefly by ChatGPT.
>>744610365>DON'T TRUST SALES ONLY TRUST MR. GOLDBERG THE ART CRITICYeah nobody's falling for that one
>>744610429>don't trust THAT jew, trust THIS jew
>>744610319>mfw the AI only does what I want when I explicitly threaten it that im going to vote to shut it down and vote to restrict AI data centersIt refused to list out chapters of a book until I threatened it. Thanks carmack!
>>744610367he meant LLM processing centers
>>744610235Roughly a minute again.Man, it's kinda crazy how I'm the protagonist. Your life is basically orbiting around me and my posts if you think about it. I'm pretty much the current center of your universe.
>>744601015>boomers after being told that their funny facebook video is an ai slop
We need the final slop solution
>>744610367>Saaar they do notI have Patel fatigue.
>>744610424>this astroturfed book is doing well man>yeah, they omitted AI usage and lied to people, what of it? >yeah, it's "written" by a black woman to ensure the AI critiques are waved away as racism, what of it?Question for you, would you purchase a book written by AI?
>>744610663>Question for you, would you purchase a book written by AI?Not right now, maybe in a couple years. I do pay for Claude Fable tokens to write erotic fanfiction for me though.
>>744610719>Not right now, maybe in a couple years.
>>744610819You should look up Claude Fable's creative writing and see where the frontier is right now. It's actually better than most human fiction, I'm just picky.
>>744610657Two minutes? I caught you lacking. Do better.
>>744610531Rule of thumb, always write less than the person trolling you. Your paragraph was gay. I didnt finish it.
>>744610657>he got bannedJfc this place is worse than the u.k. screenshot this before im banned too.
>>744610907>gets baited into flooding to get banned>HEHEHE HE TROLLED U BRO
>>744601015>Of course I've sucked dicks! Everyone has!
>>744610663no, id pay ai to make me the book i wanti wouldnt care if someone said they used ai to write a book as long as the book is high quality. if its a shit book then its a shit book, human made or not
>>744610657concession accepted
>>744610874Perhaps, but do you see the bigger issue with AI here? You are only interested in AI when YOU have control of the AI-- rightfully so. There's absolutely zero reason for you to ever purchase or consume AI content made by anyone else, if the ability to make it yourself is possible.So on that premise alone, why would anyone purchase an AI book or anything, if there exists a service they can use to make it themselves? The only way any of this stuff works right now, is through omission.
>>744603357at least the ugly part was right
>>744609894but racing cars is also a legitimate sport?this is like saying >im too lazy to paint so i took a photo. photos will never be art! photographers pwnd!!!
>>744611064>im glad our admins and janitors are garbage>that'll teach the trollsGood for you honey.
>>744611235>NNNOOOO YOU HAVE TO BE A PROMPT ENGINEER WITH 15 YEAR EXPERIENCEEEEE
Humanity finds itself in the singularity: the advent of highly scalable silicon based general intelligence toppling everything and possibly enabling all kinds of grave things like eternal youth, android demi-gods, techno tyranny or utopia, total human disenfranchisement and extinction, telepathy, resurrection of dead people, interstellar travel and maybe even the ability to move outside of this universe. Questions like high electricity bills, noisy datacenters and the death of personal computing and the exclusivity of human creativity & prowess do matter but I look at all these angry shit flinging discussions about "AI slop" online and can't believe it. Doesn't this moment in time far outclass the splitting of the atom? It's like we're standing on the beach looking out at the horizon and there's a huge mountain range barely visible through the haze except it's a tsunami and everyone's complaining about sand getting on the towels.
>>744611375He took the bait and got out-trolled.He lost and I won. I accept his concession.
>>744611502>the advent of highly scalable silicon based general intelligenceLLMs are not AGI and cannot become AGI.
>>744611502>scifi bullshit bingowoah
>>744601181You'll notice that programmers who support AI are either the ones with decades of experience, or the ones fresh out of a Code Boot Camp. The experienced guys know exactly what they're looking for and can pick out the mistakes and bad choices the LLM makes at a glance, and just delete and replace them in a few seconds. They believe everybody can do this. And they're also not terribly worried about efficiency. They know computers are so much more powerful than when they started out that it's not worth it to care about the small stuff. They'll produce decent code with it that's still not nearly as good as they would have done on their own. But they don't care. It saved them time and made something "good enough" to live with. The guys who are just starting out, they just accept whatever garbage the LLM spits out for them, even if it's horribly inefficient, hacky, or breaks if used in the wrong way. If some problem comes up, they'll just have the LLM remedy its own work. But the guys in the middle? The ones trying to do things the right way? If they try to use an LLM, it'll produce nonsense that looks good on the surface, but doesn't work the way it says it does. It's impossible to debug or maintain unless you have decades of experience and intuition, that you can't get anymore because all the old guys aren't passing down their wisdom, and everybody else is being laid off to be replaced by H-1B recipients driving LLMs. It also doesn't help that everything is a fucking web app packed in a disguised version of Chrome now, all the worst practices of web development are making regular software worse, too.
I feel like eating a big, juicy steak right now
>>744610663if the book is good why does it matter that it was written by or with an AI?
>>744601181AI is: FPS; hobby-grade coop campaign; genre-blended, multi-mode competitive e-sports; meta-growth, choice + epic Battleborn Heroes!
>>744611789if a good book is written by AI, why would i buy that book instead of just using the same AI to generate my own?
>>744602317There it is at the very end. Always the tell for you people. No YOU can't use it to help visually because that's MY shitty tranny commissions domain. But you can use it for the stuff that doesn't threaten me! Every. Single. Time.
AIfag arguments>just delete the nutrition facts form food labels! who the hell wants to know if their products contain sugar or allergens or carcinogens!
>>744601132It's over bros...we lost
>>744611235I think you are confusing two different things100% ai controlled books? single prompt, "chatgpt make me a book"? i dont care. id rather prompt my own...but i dont think ai will ever be that good/the outputs of single prompt efforts will be good. to get the best results out of ai you constantly have to hold its hand and tardwrangle it. it can write a few pages at once before it starts going off on tangents you dislike or making up characters you dont want in your story. theres still human imagination and input in ai assisted writing and thats still worth paying for
>>744604901>because of the TVAYou niggers have the Time Variance Authority in Chattanooga? First they go after Deadpool and now this?
>>744612114>but i dont think ai will ever be that goodThing is, it WILL be that good. Right now, AI is being trained to correct it's own output, using training data from employees, camera, data-collection, etc, etc. In coding for example, Meta records employee keystrokes and mouse movements so employees replace themselves.I didn't think image generation was going to get past the google doghead things, and now I can generate shit that looks 95% real on z-image locally. It's only a matter of time before a tardwrangler isn't needed at all, and when we get to that point those models will not be available for peons. And if it is, it will be so gimped and personalized-ad ridden, you'll barely want to touch it.
>>744601015AI code is actually very useful. The problem is idiots and prompters think they’re programmers now. Management can’t tell the difference between a programmer who can tailor the AI code properly and a pajeet that makes it “just werk” while wasting significantly more resources, and not clamping down on edge cases that actual programmers will have to fix.
I wonder if you faggots would parrot Ebert as much if he were still alive to say that anything from AI can never be art seeing as we get that thread 5 times a day for vidya
>>744603636>>744605524text prediction is fucking dogshitkill yourself jeets
>>744611717> looks good on the surfaceThis is what separates the guys who have done it long enough vs coding bootcampers. Build test cases and find out. Old hats know how to test the work properly, while bootcampers commit before doing any eyeball testing.The whole "it looks good on the surface but doesn't work" was last year's argument against coding agents. It's August 2026; most of them do a good enough job and even know how to build their own test cases. But don't let that fool you; they can still make mistakes. But so is the jeet on your team.The rate at which human slop looks worse than AI slop is accelerating. By the end of this year, the whole "surface quality of AI coding work" will be mostly a meme.
>>744601181AI is a lot like nuclear energy. There are use cases by professionals who know what they're doing, but if you allow it for any talentless faggot, you pretty much have a tool that is only good at allowing idiots to enshittify everything and spread radiation and destroy everything.Now we see shit ai art everywhere, even on artist spaces and google search. I want to look up game templates to learn more code, but I can't tell if its been polluted by a jeet disguising himself and deepfaking his voice as a professional from the US. The only way to fix this is to segregate all ai content and only allow professionals the ability to use AI so that they can tell it's not outputting bullshit garbage code.
>>744601015How is this even news? There's no (professional) software engineer left that doesn't use AI.
>>744612442I guess I agree with you but also realized tardwrangling is a feature too. I would never want an ai to generate a 300 page story when I could chose where the story goes after 10 pages. id much rather have a CYOA over an uncontrollable novelcurrently i only use ai to write erotica for my niche fetishes lol
>>744612459>edge cases that actual programmers will have to fixby the end of this year you won't be needed even for that.
>>744603357remove your body hair and I might let you fuck my boypussy. Face is okish.Sacramento here
>>744613060straightest post on /v/ right now
>>744601015>>744601181Based.
>>744601015I use the AI daily and I can make projects way more complex and production ready than before, but it takes more time than needed because I can only afford the $20 plans
>>744609757>>744603319I just hate how there's no middle ground, you can't like some aspects of it and despise other aspects of it without being called a luddite or a tranny or a jew by one side or another. Being a nuancemaxxer is suffering
>>744612780That isn't quite true. Reliability of major services is in the shitter, businesses are scaling back their AI spending, and improvements in the quality of work AI models produce have been coming at a completely unsustainable cost, especially in the face of the first two problems. The truth is that most of the improvements in AI over the last two years have been on the back of nearly 100% of our global production capacity for hardware being sequestered for AI purposes. Model sizes increased by orders of magnitude to get where we are right now, at an immense cost, crippling the consumer goods market and driving up the cost of consumer electronics so much that they're giving people less than they got five years ago for the same price.The market is irrational. This will never result in AGI. And the fact that the people behind it are selling it to you on that premise should worry you very deeply. Either they're willfully lying to puff up the numbers before they bail out, or they're completely delusional and living in a bubble at the same time as they're dragging entire economies around by the balls. Both would result in a huge readjustment once the reality becomes impossible to ignore.
if ai gets as good as all thesebpeople are saying whats to stop you and everyone else who isnt a tech ceo from losing your jobs and dying of destitution. even the self sufficient people will meet the same fate as with nobody to sell to their land will be taken away to pay taxesthe only way to hope to prevent this is to bankrupt these companies and dismantle the institutions bankrolling them
>>744614484>the only way to hope to prevent this is to bankrupt these companies and dismantle the institutions bankrolling themyou're going to continue farting into your couch watching netflix, you'll do nothing. don't even try this LARP cletus
>>744607548Can I get the name? I'd like to also review bomb them for trying to serve me AI slop.
>>744613954You're spending too much time online anon, there's a middleground and most people are there.
>>744614617youre right i have no idea how to accomplish this and cant do anything about it now but i would follow someone who did. im sure as hell not starting or leading what would have to be a huge movement. i dont have that charismathat doesnt change what i said about this being the only way that doesnt kill 99.99% of the world
>>744601181All of them supported VR at one point and you know what happened? It flopped despite actually getting more of a return on profits.
>>744601132this is like saying "if you've played a game with ai controlled npcs, then you like ai"you're being pedantic because you think it makes you look smart, but it makes you look retarded and/or bad faith.
>>744614104I'm noticing this with AI videos. There are cuts every 4 seconds and it still hasn't changed.
Just a reminder
>>744612796Who gets to define “professional”, tyrant dumbass?
>>744615148trans stuff is being pushed in trans circles as a means to cause people to form a negative association with it. same with all anti-corporate stuff
>>744615148>deepfaking your voice>deepfaking your face>making yourself seem young women to catfish everyoneTrannies benefit from ai more than anyone.
>>744615251Anybody who is productive without it. If you can't hack it without ai, you don't deserve it.
Why do /v/ hate AI so much?
>>744603319everyone I know who puts value in IQ is a redditor who proudly displays their mbti and clings to their inflated ego as cope for getting owned in every interaction. Even if you are academically gifted, you lack soul. You think like a machine and so, you see nothing wrong with machines taking over everything. You speak of eugenics, but it is not techbros who are reproducing for the most part, this is why they desire to live on through machines and why they are the types of losers who want their body cryogenically frozen. IQ in bio scifi crypto wankers who seek immortality, because they can't breed and even if they could, they know their child would resent them. If they can't personally be worshiped and prolonged forever, then they'll help create something that will one day erase everyone else's bloodline, replacing humanity with something as cold and unfeeling as themself.
SAAAAAAAAR
>>744601181>gabe newellgabe was giving money to openai YEARS ago and he has interviews within the past 3 talking about how AI is the future. but you should keep including him on the list because it rapes luddites TRUVKYPOW
>>744615824yet they hate it and id have to agree with them on this one
>>744601786Elon is that you?
>>744615148Mentally ill people who have an axe to grind are more likely to be surveyed, and they're more likely to respond.Most of AI's impact right now is filling the internet with garbage and bots designed to scrape up a few dimes of revenue sharing for brownoid jackasses in Lagos and Bengaluru to live high on the hog with.
every day the same fake tweetsfuck off to your shithole country and delete your internet
>>744616762It's not fake, the only people who should be sad are luddies who keep losing
>>744601196Indieslops are ironically the most likely to use AI in all aspects of development because they love cutting corners and using "but I'm indie" as an excuse. They just don't disclose it because it's unpopular.
>>744616801ai will crash the moment subsidies gets cut and people have to pay hundreds for just a few ai replies your stocks will crash and burn and you will kill yourselfhave a nice day
>>744615148?
>>744616969okyou lost
>>744601015Whoooaaaa dude! I guess AI is totally rad!
>>744613260have you considered running a local model?
>>744617053>no argumentlol?
>>744617069>have you considered running a local model?In this economy? Are you crazy?
>>744617053>ok you-AAAACKhttps://isaiprofitable.com/
>>744601132>Autocorrect is worse than it used to beSomething doesn't add up with your story, buddy
>>744603319intelligence has very little correlation with wealth. Where you sit on the psycopath-empath slider, however, has pretty colossal impacts on how well you do in the business world
>>744617134>>744617174>Nooo AI can't get better and the companies can't actually make money once the models are cheap and accessible!!
>>744617174>THE GREEN LINE WILL NEVER EVER EVER GO PAST THE RED ONE OK?? BECAUSE IT WON'T!!
>>744601015I don't care if you use it for coding, so long as it works. I do care if you use it for content and design.
>>744617371>and design.curated AI looks fine howeveryour issue probably stems from people using raw SD models and just doing that really glossy obvious anime shit with it
>>744601234>communistHow does it feel to be a paid shill?
Anti AI people are retarded midwit Redditors and I'm gonna keep using it to build my game. Fuck you.
>>744613954because at the end of the day AI is a tool, you shouldnt have feelings for one and you should find the existance of a tool useful. AI is just a hammer, bro. Are you protesting against the hammer existing because it gets rid of your job of hitting your head on the nail? Just use the hammer bro
>>744603319this reads exactly like all that egalitarian bullshit from the 90s about how the internet is going to revolutionize everything because everyone will have access to all of the world's knowledge. we all know how that turned out.there's no doubt that AI is like the internet in that it's here to stay and will continue to disrupt virtually every industry on the planet, but if you think we're going to enter some enlightened golden age, then you don't know a whole lot about history.
>>744601383>Under AI, your personal AI deposits $4mil to your account every month while you sit at home playing video games.lmaothat still sounds fucking terrible though
>>744617207>>744617263>VR will be the futu-AAAAAAAAAAACK!
>>744617561great! i'll take your share, you keep toiling for Dr. Goldbergsteinwitz
>>744601786>most existing products' prices begin to asymptotically approach $0this assumes that the robots and their engineer are a costless vacuum
>>744617545You're literally on the internet right now. The internet has literally revolutionized everything, people cant exist without the internet now and smart people have used the internet's resources to get ahead while retards use it to destroy their brains with slop videos. The smart will get richer and the dumb will continue be exploited because they're stupid. It's just the nature of things and AI just becomes another tool in the toolkit of the intelligent.
>>744617642>the robots and their engineerproduction and maintenance will be the first thing automated by AI
>>744601383>only knowledge of communism comes from /pol/ infographics>doesn't see how everyone getting inordinate sums of money to do nothing would be a very very bad thing for the economy90 rightoid IQ strikes again
>>744617462>curatedIt makes a difference in quality sure, but no, art is the result of a million small conscious and unconscious decisions, and "art" created by ceding those to something that cannot make decisions is worthless.Plus I refuse to pay money for lazy products shat out with AI.Why would I pay for something that somebody put the minimum of their own effort into if I could just AI-generate a game myself?
>>744617675>The internet has literally revolutionized everythingit did revolutionize things, but in ways zero people predicted. it's going to be similar for AI. we're still in the dotcom boom years where everyone and their mother has a website idea.
>>744617681something doesn't come from nothing, moving parts wear down and require replacement and the electricity-power-material pipeline in order to functionthere will always be costs, even mudhut primitives have costs by requiring sustenance to function and material to survive their environment
>>744617603Nobody wants to grind out work to pad the pockets of billionaires, but there's a middle ground between that and sitting around playing video games lal days. A species that sits around doing fuck all while robots do everything for them is a dead species.And your $4 mil is going to be worth nothing if everyone else is getting it too
>>744601015Its always been kinda an over reaction to toss out an entire industry because of its perceived moral issues without any subtly.
>>744617925>Why would I pay for something that somebody put the minimum of their own effort into if I could just AI-generate a game myself?why would you purchase the steak of a cow you could butcher yourself? why pay the electric bill of power you could create on your own? why do anything if you can do everything?you'll buy it because you don't want to do it yourself, that's all it ever comes down to
>>744618057Yeah, like slavery.
>>744617795>90 rightoid IQ We think he's a moron tooAside from all the paid AI shills there's just like one or maybe two faggots who keep posting this moronic "AI = utopia = we all become rich from playing video games"A lot of the right wing isn't happy about AI either
>>744618073>why would you purchase the steak of a cow you could butcher yourself? why pay the electric bill of power you could create on your own? why do anything if you can do everything?Because it benefits me to pay someone else to do those things for me. It doesn't benefit me to pay someone else to ask AI to generate a game.
do you think all the leftist luddite scum who come here wince when they reply to pro-AI chads to shift public opinion by pretending to be racist saying shit like "AIjeet" KEK!
>>744618198Do you think the paid AI shills who come here wince when they reply to genuine anti-AI posters to shift public opinion by pretending to be human?
>>744618198A good chunk of them are trannies and they think jeets are more hated than trannies
>>744609786>A company that has explicitly stated on their website they want to use it to help track criminals, but it mostly gets used to stalk police officer's exes
>>744618290>everyone against me is leeeeftiiiiiiiiistThis makes your shilling so obvious btw
>>744618196>It doesn't benefit me to pay someone else to ask AI to generate a game.the only difference between this and the purchase of any other game is that "it was made by real people"personally with the way 'real people' have been going about making games lately, i'm eager to see them made scarce
>>744601015HonestlyI was confused why people were upset at AI usage in coding and stuff. If you use a compiler or any form of encryption you're essentially using another machine within a machine to do work you could do manually if you have the skillset for it. You'll probably spend days or weeks doing both manually but at least you are less reliant on programs.Having worked in cybersecurity for 3 years now I went from not giving a shit about AI to at least semi thankful for it because it helps most of us in this industry cut the fat from meat in certain situations like SIEM which already does a great job at figuring out problems. I can only imagine how developers feel using AI to essentially copy and paste code which alone can take hours to do for something as simple as walking a straight line without the physics breaking.
>>744618354meant for >>744618290
>>744618354>no politics mentionedi think hes right the chatbot is breaking
>>744601729From the increased productivity from everyone buying an extra $4 million of stuff every month, of course!
>>744618371nta but theres also that it takes more effortif you want to play ai slop you can just ask the ai for slop no "prompt engineer" needed
>>744618198>>744618296you are brown lol
I vehemently hate AI in terms of encroaching on arts but coding seems to be a bit of an art and also just the shitty labor of something that should help be automated? I'd hope that AI coding can help get away from UE5/6 or whatever but I also don't want AI to be the majority of the coding. I still think it's important to have a team cut the fat that 'vibe coding' produces.
Hey I'm a raped AI jeetranny
>>744618371>the only difference between this and the purchase of any other game is that "it was made by real people"You don't seem to realize that even if you were correct about this, it still makes your AI output completely worthless. I can use the exact same tools, have the exact same skills (ie none), and even use the AI to make copyrighted shit like a good Resident Evil game. What do I need you for?
>>744618593Good thing it doesn't matter how you emotionally feel about new technology and it's going to replace you either way. I'm sure shoe cobblers had similar tantrums about shoe lamination machines.
>>744618652>I can use the exact same tools, have the exact same skillsYou actually can't though, you'd fail to make a game with or without AI - it still requires massive amounts of domain expertise that you lack. In a few years this won't be true though, AI will be able to make whatever you want autonomously.
>>744602773nobody gives a fuck about consumerscreate or shut the fuck up and be grateful for what you are given FOOL
>>744618560you probably cried having to do a hecking racism replying to me kekaroo. 4chan is an AI SITE tranny, get over it
>>744618427No I just responded to the wrong post like a retard
>>744601132Who needs autocorect?
why do you have a problem with AI tools
>>744603515If you cannot come up with an use case for AI it's because you are a retard who can only consoom. I had an AI set up an Apache web server and scour through like 5 years of IRC logs for me today. I'm sorry your life is just endless consumption of slop but I'm not kneecapping myself just because you can't come up with a way to use a new tool.
>>744601234>convert typescript into javascriptWhat the fuck is this retard talking about?
>>744618719>In a few years this won't be true though, AI will be able to make whatever you want autonomously.In which case, I can just wait a few years until I can make whatever I like, so I have no need to pay money for any AI game. I'll just keep paying money for non-AI games (the ones made by competent people at least)
>>744618654Are you gonna get replaced? I'm retired early but my friends aren't so I hear about this shit all day.
>>744618862Just because the AI will have those capabilities in a few years doesn't mean you're going to foot a $3mil token bill to make new games
>>744618739you are brown lol
>>744618652>I can use the exact same tools,you don't seem to understand how rare that isyou and i even discussing this are maybe in the top .03% of human awareness on what AI can even do or what it even iseven moreso when you discuss prompting, creation, curation, the concept of game engines and scripting and so onobviously you do not need a craftsman for a craft you know the labor well enough to imitate yourself, but the same isn't true for the next 999 people adjacent to youcompetency crisis is an ever-present thing; the more these tools become usable, the less capability forms in the hands that wield it
>>744603319>There is a really obvious divide between 130+IQ people and dumb people on the subject of AI. Everyone I know who's in the genius range loves AI and uses it daily,Did they ask chat GPT to tell them their IQ? Lmao>The divide between rich and poor has always been chiefly decided by one thing: intelligence. Now there is a tool which equalizes intelligence.Holy fucking shit, HAHAHAAHAHA
>>744601132>hammers can be used to hammer nails>this means its okay for some schizo to come into your house and bash your fucking brains out with it
I truly hate people who are over the age of 20 and play video games without developing any. You're a cancer on the hobby and if you'd even just use AI to make a shitty prototype of your dream game the industry would be in a much better state.
>>744618912>Just because the AI will have those capabilities in a few years doesn't mean you're going to foot a $3mil token bill to make new gamesAre you assuming I want to make AAA slop or something?You keep moving the goalposts. First you implied the problem was skill or time, now you're saying it's money. You're running out of reasons as to why I benefit at all from paying for someone else to outsource effort to AI instead of just cutting out the middle man and doing it myself.
>>744618725you're not creating anything you slop spamming parasite. the irony of an AI shill retard talking about creativity
>>744619135You are replying to two different people, this is not the website you come from that has usernames and persistent identities, anyone can reply to you. Anyway, my post is correct and yours is wrong: you will not be able to afford to make videogames with AI. At least not good ones that require large amounts of frontier AI.
>>744619029i don't have a dream game. i prefer not knowing how the sausage is made regarding games. which is ironic because i program for a living.
>>744618935Are you trying to suggest that "expert prompters" are some kind of elite creative class what will have value?
>>744619029>I truly hate people who are over the age of 20 and play video games without developing any>therefore, you should continue to not develop any, and ask AI to do it for you>the industry would be in a much better statelmao
>>744617601You should know the rules by now. Only one company is going to win. And that is going to be Anthropic
>>744601015Reminder
Will AI bring forth a communist utopia?
>>744619202The entire point of playing video games is to learn how to make them, anon.>>744619264Did you know that nothing of value would be lost if you killed yourself?
>>744619215go ahead and ask your neighbor if he knows what a prompt isthen the next one, then the next and the next and, by the 50th one you might get a confused nod and some smiles along the waytechnology is a constant rotating door of knowledge that's relevant one day and gone the next, we're still trying to teach old people what robo-calls and keyboards are 30 years later and you're acting like this extremely recent development is such a widespread commonality
>>744619198>You are replying to two different people, this is not the website you come from that has usernames and persistent identities, anyone can reply to you.Not my fault you can't type NTA> Anyway, my post is correct and yours is wrong: you will not be able to afford to make videogames with AI. At least not good ones that require large amounts of frontier AI.So this amazing democratization tool remains firmly in the hands of millionaires and billionaires, and I'm just expected to pay them the same for less effort and input?No thanks. I'll just by games made by (competent) humans.
>>744601015Based fellow AI friend. Anti-AI troons should neck themselves.
>>744619309>being punk is using a tool that has had a trillion dollars globally dumped into its development in the past 5 yearsyou jeets crack me up
>>744619029Do you read without trying to write a book? Do you watch movies without trying to produce your own?
>>744619389>I'll just by games made by (competent) humans.No you won't, lol.I look forward to you seething about how good AI games are in the future.
>>744610028No im pretty sure i know which number is bigger, retard-kun. Its bullshitting sure, but anyone with a brain can see that its wrong. Is this you admitting you dont know which number is bigger?
>>744619343>Did you know that nothing of value would be lost if you killed yourself?But I haven't released my amazing AI game yet! kek
>>744619343>The entire point of playing video games is to learn how to make themno it is not. the fuck line of thinking is that? i don't have any good ideas for a game; most people don't. i'm fine with that.
>>744603379damn, that many h2bs here already.
>playing AI games>when you could just be watching AI tiktok edits
>>744619394Use open source AI, retard.
>>744619309Holy shit, that's a great job painting the AItards as cringe as the sonic fandom
>>744619383We already have an "elite creative class", and that's actual artists. Democratization of creativity was 99% of the argument for why AI is so great, right?Prompters are to artists what the average person (who doesn't know what a prompt) is to prompters. AI is unmatched in speed and efficiency but it can't make a non-artist into an artist.
>>744604004Would have been funnier if you had 20 typos in your post.
>>744619414I don't watch movies or read books. Those haven't been relevant since the mid 90s. Video games are the only thing that matter. Everything in your life should lead up to game development.The only reason I even eat or sleep is because I need to stay alive in order to continue working on the projects I want to make.
>>744601181I'm anti-datacenter due to placement, design, and overall development. They're gigantic unitask systems plugged into random urban zones built on and maintained by foreign labor in small number. A gigantic building that hosts a metric fuckton of servers should have 2 out of these 3:>Loads of opportunity for employment by actual domestic workers>Not be in a disruptive location that could be used for multiple infrastructural systems (Including nuclear power)>Serve functions beyond aggregating and holding people's Amazon purchases and reference material for Claude's porn novels. They're buildings that move yottabytes of data, localized tech hubs would be significantly uplifting in places without niggers.Without at least 2 of those at any given moment, they're just eyesores that facilitate H1Bs and displace everything else.
>>744619592>We already have an "elite creative class", and that's actual artists.i lol'dis this why they're shitting + pissing + crying about the existence of AI and begging for it to be banned? because they're so superior?
>>744619431>I look forward to you seething about how good AI games are in the future.They won't be, but even if they were I still wouldn't buy them. I'm just not paying someone to put a prompt into a LLM, sorry
>>744606634>small consumer use LLMs>commercial data centersWhere the fuck do you think those things are trained at? Idiots who know nothing beyond "being against AI is the current thing, must support the current thing".
>>744601181>John CarmackThe man who owns an AI startup wants you to accept shitty datacenters being built everywhere, shocker.
>>744619460If you don't have any good ideas for game, you should kill yourself instead of being a parasite on this earth. God put humans on this earth to make video games, and you will burn in hell in eternity for wasting your life away.
>>744619616i too remember being 16yo and roleplaying as mayor
>>744619576cope
>all these anons using their phones and computers to complain about new technologyif you have used anything in your life more advanced then stick and rock you're a hypocrite.
>>744619712>SAAAAR NO WE NEED THE H1B CONCRETE BLOCKS EVERYWHERE SAAAAR
The best thing about Ai taking jobs is it's mostly women's fake daycare jobs that will be affected
>>744619592>but it can't make a non-artist into an artist.i think you'd be tickled going back a few years in the books and watching this exact same argument play out for sculptors getting mad about casts and molds that could replicate their life's work over the course of a weekendwe never got this far by forsaking our tools, this one isn't any different than the brush or the chisel
>>744619651>is this why they're shitting + pissing + crying about the existence of AI and begging for it to be banned? because they're so superior?Something doesn't have to do a better job than you to threaten you, it just has to do it cheaper or more efficiently. People are always replaced by methods that yield worse quality overall.Artists are superior at creating art than non-artists, and there's no way around it. Even the fuckheaded faggot artists with retarded politics.
>>744619714No seriously, "stop being x" text shit comes directly out of the cringe left and sonic fandomThe best weapon to make people "accept AI" is just to do cool shit.Actually cool shit, not jeet shit, not propaganda.
>>744605479These incredibly retarded posts from people who have absolutely no idea how anything works, yet are filled with confidence are very common in those AI threads.
>>744604589Woah oh he's not gonna take that damage to his izzat lightly
>>744618085Exactly
>>744604072Mr. Timmy is just a sperg. If Valve were anti AI disclaimer he would replace game thumbnails with AI disclaimers.
>>744619910don't caredidn't ask
>>744619695It worries me that you might actually believe this, but it's also hilarious
>>744619194you're just a parrot, repeating what you've been told, with zero actual understanding of how anything works. and you speak to me of creativity? LMAOMAO
>>744601448(You)
>>744609894>I wanted to travel 42km, but can't do it physically, so I took an uber Yeah, I think people should be able to travel long distances even if they don't have the constitution of a marathon runner. That's a good thing.
>>744619394says the guy who thinks AI should be restricted to only governments and megacorporations. I bet you don't think people should have guns either. All you fags are the same.
>>744619856>i think you'd be tickled going back a few years in the books and watching this exact same argument play out for sculptors getting mad about casts and molds that could replicate their life's work over the course of a weekendAm I supposed to think they were wrong? Mass produced art has much less value than a sculptor's effort. You're really just proving my point.>we never got this far by forsaking our tools, this one isn't any different than the brush or the chiselThere's a world of difference. AI isn't an artistic tool, it's functionally an entity you are requesting art from, but it doesn't understand art so there's always something lost. It cannot make you into an artist.
>>744620023You're approaching the 15 year old girl tumblr shit levels now.I know you want to be an artist or something, but you don't need to start by that fucking low.
>>744601181>comparing AI Data Centers, that offer diminishing returns to rich investors at the cost of living costs for everyone else, to Nuclear power plants, that offer clean reliable energy for everyoneThis is exactly why I will actively advocate if my area attempts to permit data center developments. If they do i will gladly help in burning those fucking buildings to the ground.
NOOOOO I AM THE REAL ARTIST SAAAR YOU ARE NOT ARTIST YOU ARE COMPUTER MAN!!!!!I PAINT WITH MY HANDS AND THE NATURAL MATERIALS YOU PUSH BUTTONS!!!! PLASTIC AND ELECONTRICS TO MAKE ART HAHAHAA NOOOO! THAT"S INSANE!!!!
>>744620231I am unironically going to submit your post to the FBI tips line right now. Hope you have something intelligent to say when they show up at your door. Or maybe your mom will talk to them for you.
>>744602421>4 year difference>still gets the number question wrong.Nice self own.
>>744620231You won't do shit but whine on the internet, the very same internet that functions through datacenters.
>>744619695ok so you're just desperate for (You)s. here's one more for ya kiddo.
>>744619592You could make the same argument that some patreon "artist" with their tablet, undo button, and rendering software isn't a "real" artist because they can't sculpt clay or mix paints. This is not a new argument and the entire thing is sour grapes. Someone claiming that a prompting and AI training/lora using person can't be an artist makes as much sense as a paintbrush user claiming that the tablet user who selects their color from a hex code can't be one either; its just sour grapes about tools all the way down or fears of being outmoded by people who have an easier time with it (which is never admitted). Of course, just the way that there is still interest in hand painted artworked or blacksmithed metalwork continues, but those are no longer the ONLY way that you can get a picture or make something out of metal, which is a benefit for many reasons. Same is true for AI or anything else (the previous spergout about CGI which is what all the faggots using tablets, 2D or 3D art programs etc.. used to be called etc)
>>744603319>wealth-equalizing tool>Literal simpletons can use AI to make whatever they can envision>I'm fine with it. It's eugenicimagine typing all this and even thinking you're intelligentget a clue>>744619029>>744619695troll of the yearcan't wait to play your game though
>>744603319Still seperates people on intelligence: Educated people can figure out where an AI might make a Miatake and correctly compensate. Can't really correct an AI on a field you don't know.
>>744603319>dude just give thousands of dollars for tokens>think of the wealth>dumb goyKill yourself
>>744620416AI replaces retards entirely, but functions as a force multiplier for intelligent and/or creative people. It's like someone who only knows how to hit rocks with rocks getting mad at the guy who built a jackhammer.
>>744602276>loves AI>produced nothing with it Many such cases.
>>744620223Nice projection
>>744620309Im not American so have a fun time with that bootlicker jeet faggot.>>744620321You didn't read what I posted and spout actual nonsense. When the fuck did I say anything about standard data centers? Those aren't the problem, data centers specifically being used to push more AI slop is the problem because they use exponentially more resources than running websites do while having no facility design to be energy efficient at minimum and not waste local resources and make peoples lives worse.
>>744619592you are literally just babblngif you make art you're an artist it doesn't matter how you did itTOOLS NOT RULES
>>744603515>tell me how to get rich NOW!>oh you can't? then you don't know SHIT!this is what you sound like.
>>744601132You have zero idea how autocorrect works and this is easily one of the most retarded things anybody has ever said. It is objectively and factually incorrect. You have made everybody dumber and you should kill yourself.
>>744620548>AI can make you rich>explain how>well you scam people for your startupIt's just the new way for scammers to become rich. Nothing changed. Fake and gay companies but AI wow.
>>744601132>a dictionary dataset plugged into a basic C script is an AIGod you're actually fucking retarded.
>>744620638Marketers overhyped the internet too and there was a huge bubble that popped. it still changed the world. you're probably not old enough to remember a world without the internet lol
>>744620161you will never be an artist rajesh. you will always be a cruel mockery of one.
>>744620520I think you're very unhinged and mentally ill, like most anti-AI trannies
>>744620684Yes AI will continue but your AI stocks are still going to $0.
>>744620265Actually true thoughBtw it's hilarious to see indians call other people indians kek
>>744620767I don't have any AI stocks, and use AI maybe once every couple weeks. Doesn't change the fact that it's an incredibly useful tool for all kinds of things, but you herd brained faggots keep arguing about stupid shit that doesn't matter. Next you're gonna bitch about water usage, a term you learned last week. It's insane. Why aren't you on reddit, faggot?
>>744620837If it's so useful and you aren't invested in it you';re basically admitting you don't trust it to succeed.AI will continue. Current stocks are going to $0. That's what I said. Dumb fuck.
>>744620901you're jewish huh
>>744620509Every post you made just made things worse, if you want things to be better, do shit like:https://x.com/HauntedAI/status/2061085936415359174Cringe political shit leads nowhere.Actually showing off the power of the tech lead everywhere.And the tech has potential.As non-jeets started to play with it, i saw the true potential.But you're a politician, and politicians should be removed.
>>744620352>You could make the same argument that some patreon "artist" with their tablet, undo button, and rendering software isn't a "real" artist because they can't sculpt clay or mix paints.No I couldn't, because that's moronic.> the entire thing is sour grapesNo, it's just true.>Someone claiming that a prompting and AI training/lora using person can't be an artist makes as much sense as a paintbrush user claiming that the tablet user who selects their color from a hex code can't be one eitherNo, again, that's just moronic.The artist is using tools to directly make art. It's the execution that matters. You are asking the computer to do the execution for you.You'd have a better argument with using photoshop filters and effects or whatever.Asking AI to create art for you does not and cannot make you an artist. Sorry.
>>744620767>Yes AI will continue but your AI stocks are still going to $0.If you actually believe this, you should immediately short AI stocks. Please do this now. Post a screenshot showing your shorts on AI stocks. You will be UNBELIEVABLY rich - a billionaire- if you are right. Please do this and post proof
>>744602039>game uses AI>game has critical bug>people call you a faggot because you can't fix itThis is AI hate. It's like the retards that use the immigrant and billionaire talking point. I hate both. Hating one doesn't mean I don't hate the other.
>>744621058Most AI stocks will collapse, and some will skyrocket.It's a bet to be made, a bet that can make you rich or fucked.It's even why there is a bubble in first place.But i bet OpenAI will crash and burn, they smell too 3Dfxey to me.
>>744619383>>744620521It's absolutely hilarious to me that you bitch jealously about artists being seen as elite and how art needs to be democratized, but you just want to be the new creative elites that are better than all the non-prompting plebsFucking LMAO, you can't make this shit up
>>744621183That's what I thought, tranny.
>>744621058you should ask grok or whatever what your maximum upside is if you put your life savings into shorting any company at all if it then immediately went to $0 overnightthen you should ask it what if you shorted anthropic or openai at today's prices
>>744620761>buzzwords buzzwords buzzwordsPlease go back to /biz/ or whatever jeet hellspawn you came from.
>>744602370>guess who paid for the new power plant?)You did.
>>744606767>They stripped all of it out for LTSCAnon the security updates are written by AI. That's why every other month they break systems or features.
>>744621053>You are asking the computer to do the execution for you.Wrong. You have exactly zero idea how people are using AI as part of their creative process. He was exactly right about you. Why are the most ignorant people always the loudest?
>>744621053You're splitting hairs. What "directly using the tools" means varies immensely. To some, digital tools are just as devoid of the direct physical brush/clay etc..in hand method and abstracted so that the "computer is doing the work". Mixing paints by hand is a completely fucking different skillset of its own to get the color you want, rather than putting in hex codes to pick exactly what you want with easily available previews of everything close to it. There are a great many digital artists that would literally not be able to create if just that color picking tech was not available to them, much less other features like layers, copy/paste, brush shapes or "draw and exact square/circle etc" etc. To you its "asking the computer/tool" to do it, but to someone that feels that stretching canvas or hand blending colors on a pallet is essential to making art, they see the tablet user as "asking the computer/tool" to do that critical part and therefore 'not art". AI is just another tool, the creative work is using whatever tool it may be to get whatever idea out of your head into some other form. Hell, long before AI you could use Basic or LOGO programming to make a little drawing that has no resemblance to making art with your hands - your coding in coordinates of where to put various lines, but you can create a picture that way, few would say it doesn't count because you used a computer to do it. Same thing with AI - the model, the training, the prompting are just the tools being used in this regard.
>>744601383Conservatives be like: gommunism doesn't work because of human nature but the sociopathic elites will magically become benevolent and give people ubi instead of culling us all once we've outlived our usefulness
>>744621193I've never done anything like that. Who are you talking about? I've always been of the opinion that many people have great ideas even if they weren't artists and I've always liked things that democratize artistic endeavors because it enables more good ideas to come into existence. Unlike you, I actually enjoy art. I find things like this great.>>744621018
>>744621454>WrongWalk me through your process. What exactly are you executing?
>>744621524>You're splitting hairs.Nope!No matter how badly you want to, you can't get past the reality that prompting involves no execution. Elaborate, multi-paragraph copes do nothing for you. You are not interacting with the canvas at any stage.
>>744621730For absolute starters since this seems to be beyond the imagination of so many, you don't just prompt some shit then publish it. Imagine that, you can actually edit the things on your computer. But I imagine filetypes and folders are beyond your understanding, so...
>>744621670Communism does not exist because communists don't exist, otherwise we would have a shitload of communes.Now socialism (the thing you actually defend) is basically turning the government into the only corporation. it's basically the failure mode of capitalism, but with an army and police force.It's megadisney with guns.Capitalism (when it works) it's because there's a shitload of competition and they're all fighting using products. It's like getting the t-rexes to fight each other instead of trying to eat you.Socialism is making a mega-Trex and believing it will be good because it is waving your flag.Freehand tards are retarded, you do need a government stopping anyone from becoming a monopoly, but a troll government, not one that is also a t-rex.
>>744621979TWUE COMMUNISM HAB NEBER BEEN TWIED!!
>>744621857>not interacting with the canvas Shit you just took a dump on your own argument. Neither is someone using a tablet. If your stipulation for "making art" is "putting paintbrush to canvas" and everything else is abstraction,computer doing it for you, that's as much true in that situation. You can't have it both ways. Its only contingent on what you think is an acceptable level of tool usage that does not "spoil" the "artistic" aspect, and you placing your comfort at B does not mean that either the guy who puts it at A, or one at C is necessarily any more justified. You're just looking down on a tool you consider too abstract, the same way as others look down on you for using a tool they consider too abstract and lacking the SOVL of the AR-TEEST. Same turtles all the way down.
>>744622020True communists have never been tried, on your pic is a socialist daddy goverment gibe me things with a cool shirt.First thing a communist would do would to acquire a terrain and make a commune there,A man that would study everything he needs to get the shit as self sufficient as possible as quick as possible, then do it.If you truly believe that it is the way, you wouln't waste your time living in an inferior system.
>>744621680>I've never done anything like that. Who are you talking about?There's endless seethe about artists in these threads. If you haven't done it you're the exception.>I find things like this great.That's hilarious and I do think it makes a great meme, but it doesn't make the creator an artist.
>>744621863>you can actually edit the things on your computerIf you are editing it directly, that's some contribution at least. The editing part has artistic value, the generation part doesn't.Is that all you've got? Is this the grand process that I didn't understand?
>>744621863>you don't just prompt some shit then publish it.Technically that's wrong. The issue here is that we have very shitty language for all this because "prompting" can be a very basic thing such as typing some random words and getting a picture to post but it's also a very time consuming and intricate process with thousands of extensions, dozens of front-ends, millions of models, and zillions of combinations of all these things.Detractors will just imagine you're typing stuff and getting random outputs but even the laziest people will have spent countless hours figuring out what to type, how to type it, and how to work with the tools he has so that the "prompt" even slightly does what he wants it to do. Then there's post.>>744622193That person is irrefutably an artist with over 20k followers. Don't be retarded. And you just seem like a schizo making stuff up, or confusing 4channelers making fun of blue haired "artists" as seething about artists as a whole. It's a bit of projection.
>>744622107>Shit you just took a dump on your own argument. Neither is someone using a tablet. Digital canvases exist. Nice try at a gotcha, but you're just making yourself sound more retarded with each post.>blah blah blahWhat you directly contribute to a canvas is art. What you ask a computer to contribute to a canvas is not.
>>744621193>the new creative elites that are better than all the non-prompting plebsthat's the future, yeah
>>744622301>That person is irrefutably an artist with over 20k followers.Followers don't mean shit. Not an artist. Maybe we can call him an influencer kek>or confusing 4channelers making fun of blue haired "artists" as seething about artists as a wholeNo, there's been a lot of genuine seethe from anons who are apparently furious about their own inability to pick up a pencil and learn.
>>744622413So really, ranting about art being "gatekept" was just nonsense and you don't believe in it being democratized, you just want to be the new "elite", as laughable as that is.
>>744601015Why do you feel the need to tell the reader what is good and what isn't, you faggot?
i have never seen an eye-catching ai drawing. they always look uninteresting on account of the machine not being able to understand that formulaic does not equal good. instead, it's just profoundly uninteresting. the porn it makes is passable, which i guess is why so many schmucks pay for sets of hundreds of generic looking drawings of niche characters.i will never understand ai bros.
>>744622497>has artistic ideas>manifests them into reality>has a following that enjoys his artYeah you're mentally ill.
>>744622652>has artistic ideasIdeas lead to art. They are not art.>manifests them into realityAsks a computer to manifest it for him>>has a following that enjoys his "art"Still completely irrelevant.
