Which Bethesda games do you love that have defined generations?
>>744606012>weeveryone that made anything worth was fired, these zesty hamplanets only made the bad parts that drive players away.
>>744606174Not true. Bethesda for better or for worse was one of the few western studios that rarely if ever got rid of anyone.
>>744606012Bethesda had a generational run of mid games since FO4 released and defined the decline in AAA game quality for the past decade. For that, I love them for saving me money.
>>744606012>workers have beef with owners>Actually this is about ME, the gamer, a.k.a. the most oppressed snowflake of all!! Me Me Me!
>>744606012The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind (2002)Is like the only one, maybe oblvion.
>>744606012>that croppingYou didn't want to share with /v/ that this is a gay right wing drama vtuber account that you follow?
>>744606012>Another corpo shill thread>Twitter screenshot>Trying to greentext outside of 4chan
>>744606253open dohr
>>744606285You just realised gamers are mentally ill retards?
>>744606012I do not want Starfield.
>>744606012Nobody in that image made a well received bethesda game.
Right wingers>HEHE I CAN'T WAIT FOR ALL THOSE FAGGOT WOKE GAME DEVELOPERS TO GET FIRED SO I CAN PLAY ALL THESE NEW EPIC RACIST HOMOPHOBIC GAMES MADE BY A SOULLESS EVIL COMPANY USING CHAT GPT
>>744607253bethesda games are shit and politics got nothing to do with it
*puts on They Live glasses and rereads tweet*>Guys, Bethesda got rid of all the pronouns and noserings doing QA for their games. That means the games will be good now!!!>Buy Game Pass Ultimate™ and keep slurping down Microsoft's hot jizz!!
>>744606781So true xister! More obese danger hair nigger girlbosses NOW!
>>744607253It's funny that all you have to do is put women at the front of your cause and the incels here will reflexively be against it even if they'd normally be for it.
>>744606012how can you blame the devs? the devs could keep working and working until everything gets ironed out like bugs. Its the execs deciding when the project is over and pushing our the product.
>>744609460litteraly everyone in this pic>>744606012is a woke nigger worshiper, im glad theyre fired and i hope they starve
>Watch a video about this shit>Its literally all just tumblr women with piercings, trannies, and soiboisIts not even an exaggeration. Its just a collective of the most insufferable type of people to interact with.
>>744609535by putting brown women who barely know how a computer works you produce millions a bugs a week
>>744606012How many of those people actually worked at Bethesda when they made Skyrim?
>>744609460If women are at the forefront of your cause it tells me a lot about your cause
>>744606012Wait...how does one protest after being fired? Is there some hope they will be rehired back after standing around on the lawn annoying people and disrupting traffic or something?
>>744609535This reminds me of my favorite quote
>>744606285>>744606781>>744607253...I'm not picking this up from OP at all here. I'm more confused about how exactly protestors are planning some end goal of being hired back after protesting the company that already got rid of them. How is that supposed to work?
>>744611062i’ll remind you that you can legally pay for protesters to show up wherever you want. there’s many websites for it
I doubt anyone in that image was working at Bethesda 20 years ago back when they were still worth a damn, so I don't really care about them being laid off.If anything, they should have been laid off years ago.
>>744610053>>744610868Thanks for proving my point kek
>>744611478so your point was that /v/ would side with the bethesda protests if women weren’t in all the photos of said protest? fucking dunce
>>744606012You know the worst part of all of this shit is how it actually made the boomers right. They said the participation trophy generation will grow up to be entitled little fucks that think they are owed things like a job, a house, and lifestyle, and not actually work towards it or try to obtain it, they should just have it. And people staging a protest of a former employer after tanking the company to the point of laying off whole divisions is really bringing that shit to light. We have a group that thinks they do not have to try, do not have to make a game worth a shit, it should just print money because they made it, they think they should have the right to a job in a game dev company because...they just want to and are now in the street bitching at the company for letting them go after terrible performance. No one is ever going to get a job back by bitching in the street, that's insane. I don't care what their politics are, that's weird shit....I don't want the boomers to be right about shit, this bothers me.
>>744607253it never dawned on you that maybe we want the entire company to die you corpo shill
>>744611652It amazes me that no one learned the lesson from Ubisoft shoving a game no one wanted out any damn way and going under as a result.
what's with the moralfagging and virtue signaling around the dev layoffs?it doesn't matter if it's a man or a woman, these people had comfy cushy first world jobs, and they will most likely find a similar job elsewhere. it's not the end of the fucking world they weren't killed for fucksake
>>744606012Morrowind is the only good Elder Scrolls gameNew Vegas is the only good Fallout gameSkyrim is only good as a mod playground and is the last thing of value that Bethesda created>Fallout 1 and 2I said what I said.
>>744606012>2018>Fallout 76>2023>Starfield>2025>Oblivion remasterIt's no surprise with such little output and no info on new Elders Scrolls and Fallout there would be layoffs.
>>744606012In the meantime, they should form their own studio and make games to show what quality employees Bethesda is missing out on.
>>744606012I see at least six women. Do they really need that many secretaries at Bethesda?
>>744611609Yea, I'm not sure what they're expecting to get out of this, they should just start their own indie studio or something. I'd have more sympathy if they'd actually put out anything worth a damn in the last decade, but they made pretty much nothing but crap.
>>744611978I am sure China will give them money for that...
>>744611242Bethesda is unionized so it would depend on how much of the union was on board with the protest/strike.
>>744611891It kind of stems back to what >>744611609 said about entitled shits not really understanding or processing that something negative happening to them.
>>744611592you wouldn't regardless because you're an american that slobs on the cock of billionaire pedophiles and thinks improving workplace conditions is communism
>>744612175Yeah, the funny thing about being fired and not working there any longer, they have no negotiation power any longer. Workers and foce some negotiation by refusing to come to work, causing production to stop and costing the bosses money. But if they have already been let go then they have zero leverage over the employer. They are just acting like squatters on the company lawn at this point.
>>744611609>participation trophy generationboomers literally invented the participation trophy
I don't think I've ever played a Bethesda game. What games are they most well known for?
>>744612719Well that too, not only do they not have any power to negotiate but they actually have literally nothing TO negotiate at all. They are not employed, there is nothing to negotiate.
>>744612826Fallout and Fallout accessories!
>>744612839i suppose there's always "i'll pay you $100 to fuck off"
>>744612894I never played Fallout. Didnt like the look of it.
>>744612839One cannot "Protest" being fired. At that point it's just being angry and disgruntled.
bethesda has never made a game i have any respect fori suppose they published prey->2017oh, nm
>>744613035that's practically the definition of protesting. pleased and satisfied people do not protest.
>>744606012If you took everyone in that crowd and gave them $50M to make a game, assuming that they could even get the game to a releasable state (doubt; look at all of those fat old women), you'd get Highguard or Avowed.
>>744613149>that's practically the definition of protestingWhich means it'a not *actually* the definition. Correct?
>>744612978Fallout 3 and others are like a FPS with extra features and collectables.
>>744613319>Dualogue trees in an FPSNo thanks.
>>744612719Is there a single game dev that is doing well right now?Seems like every single week there is news about some company either going under or laying off a few dozen to hundred people. And that has been ongoing for 6-ish years. It's not just Bethesda. It's modern society now>A lot of people do not want to spend $70+ on a game>A lot of people do not want to spend $70+ on a 5 hour long game>A lot of people do not want to spend $70+ on a really shit game>A lot of people do not want to spend $70+ on a really ugly game>A lot of people do not have a spare $70+ to spend on fun when gas is $4.30 a gallon, rent is $1700 for a studio apartment, groceries are triple what they were two years ago and I just got laid off from my job after being laid off from my previous job before that
>>744613271>HighguardI must have missed a lot of news because this is first I'm hearing of this game.
>>744613313you're both figuratively and literally full of shit
>>744613439>Dodges the question because he knows I'm rightKEKConcessions accepted
>>744613149The definition of a protest is to force a change by disrupting business/services/government process.Angrily bitching on the sidewalk is not necessarily a protest. It's just being an angry asshole at that point. Most people will tell them to shut up and go get a job, which is apt in this situation.
>>744613383>Is there a single game dev that is doing well right now?CapcomNintendoPearl AbyssShift UpEven Falcom just recently posted record profits.
>>744613509>The definition of a protest is to force a change by disrupting business/services/government process.m-w says it's literally not
>>744613271You wouldnt get a game. You would have nothing to show after $50m but a fake trailer.
>>744606012Kotor 1
>>744613684>having a traileroptimistic
next elder scrolls will be great, shitters just hating like usual, thinking obsidian can do better after seeing avowed and outer worlds, what a steaming pile of shit
>>744611242Not all of them have been fired.Microsoft is legally mandated to negotiate the impact of terminations. The protests are designed to force the company to the table to secure better exit terms like Stronger Severance, Preferential Transfers and Recall Rights.
>>744606012There will be one surefire sign if they have abandoned the woke shit.If they recognize objective reality and bring back Male and Female in character creation we will be ok.They are going to stick with body type A/B as is required by current leftist dogma. Don't be sad it is over. Be happy it happened. From Oblivion to Fallout 4 was a helluva run.
>>744606253Two games isn't a "run"
>>744614154usually when someone produces such a consistent amount of shits they are said to have 'the runs'
>>744606012Based on the formatting of this post, I assume the quotes in quotation marks are not actual quotes
>>744614240I shall defer to your encyclopedic knowledge of shit.Everyone needs a hobby.
>>744614306https://www.bing.com/search?q=define%3A+paraphrase
I both support the firing of Bethesda employees AND never buying a Bethesda game ever again. Fuck anyone associated with Bethesda.
>>744614502this but also nuclear strikes on bethesda, md in general
>>744606285>Money just descends from the aether!The only reason why this is happening is because gamers aren't buying Xbox games. The overhiring of the dysgenic freaks that you see in OP was also a direct result of the industry being more concerned with ESG bucks and approval from their California bubble than getting a product out the door that customers want, and the time for that bubble to burst has arrived.Gamers are the vortex around which industry events revolve. We're also the lifeline that you need in order to avoid getting flung into the abyss. The fact that the industry tries to ignore us or handle us as a problem to be overcome is the primary reason why this is happening to them.>Okay, we want that lifeline. Here's a list of things that you approve of because we said so.Fuck right off. Our side of the bargain is when we pay your mortgage.
>>744612719They're banking on generating negative PR for Bethesda, not realizing that gamers don't give a shit. Is there one person, a single person on Earth, who will boycott Skyrim 2 because Becky from the ethics department got let go?
>>744615384i won't play it if they weren't (they weren't)
>>744606012Protests are a lot less effective when they're being staged by already fired people.
>>744614345the venerable japanese call them kusoge for a reaosn
>>744615384Until people notice how much worse it gets. We've seen it before, all the Ship of Theseus studios that clearly get worse between games as more and more senior staff disappear from the credits.
>>744614161>Fallout 4>Fallout 76>Starfield>their best games since 2015 were a fucking mobile game and a UE5 demake of OblivionIt is when dev cycles are 5 years minimum now.
>>744606285They're not workers anymore they got fired
>>744615562the thing about the ship of theseus is that replacing judeo-globalist incompetents (gen 1) with judeo-globalist incompetents (gen 2) does not really affect the end product
>>744606012MorrowindFallout 3
>>744614154We won chuds, the game might not have pronouns! Hurry up and preorder the deluxe edition today!
>>744606012it's kind asha gave todd a 2nd chance after starfield.
>>744607253BASED BASED BASED if true sadly it's not
>>744615562Bro, that ship has already sailed (pun intended), basically the entire AAA industry was already Ship of Theseus'd like a decade ago.
I couldn’t care less about these idiot assholes. Half of them are probably DEI hires anyway.
>>744615758>women99% of them are DEI hires. There is almost never a case where a woman should be hired.
>>744606012The rats squeal as the water rises.
>>744615743Except only now have Bethesda been forced to let go of staff that have been there since Morrowind. All I see is cope saying actually it didn't matter it already happened, covering for the layoffs.
>>744607253If you expected anything other than agreement, you're a long way from home.
>>744615802>>744616121You will not get loads of new based and redpilled games, your hobby will be replaced with shortform content designed to make you mad.
>>744606285>lefty narcissist projecting that nobody else cares about a subject they aren't at the center of
>>744616243>You will not get loads of new based and redpilled gamesBut I never stopped getting new games.Why would I give a fuck about AAA western devs going out of business in fucking 2026?
to much time to make new games
>>744616243If the woke established companies full of women and DEI hires are all dying, that's enough of a win for right now. Someone else can try their hand at making games after the ashes smolder. What that new company makes will just determine if I root for their downfall, too. It's not like they could do worse than what we have.
>>744606012>WE MAKE GAMESFallout 4 was more then 10 years ago
>>744606012You chuds are economic terrorists you did this?>Bethesda>Good gamesLolLmao
>>744606012Imagine being defined by a bethesda game
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>>744615743Bethesda is one of the few developers that kept every employee for decades
>>744606012In the past 18 years Bethesda has made 3 games>Skyrim>Fallout 4>StarfieldNot counting remakes, not counting asset flips like 76, not counting shitty mobile games. Bethesda has made and released 3 actual video games in the past 2 decades. The trailer for TESVI is 8 years old. Bethesda absolutely deserves this. Microsoft didn't go far enough. Todd Howard should be flayed and crucified.
>>744615384Games really do not sell based on a company PR in the first place. Most people never really know or give a shit about the studio that made a thing.
>>744616987Which explains how they never gained the talent needed to make a better engine.
>>744617030Yes precisely, they're simply too old and even back then they werent the most skilled people they just got lucky.
>>744616587>He thinks anything will rise from the asheslol
>>744616995>Bethesda didnt make enough games if you dont count all the games they released every yearOkay bro
>>744617004>Games really do not sell based on a company PR in the first placeyeah they do. every single fucking game sells on either the quality of its predecessor or the size of its marketing budget.only absolutely fucking abysmal shitheaps and the extremely fortunate manage to avoid this pattern
>>744615784It's not really as deep of a plot as people think. Twitter obsessed white women who manage to get to a position of authority primarily hire other twitter obsessed white women. If anything they are a bit more racist about their hiring practices since they really do manage to keep it to white women 90% of the time. The main issue is that women overwhelming want to hire and work with people they want to personally hang out with, not someone who is capable of doing that job. They want someone to socialize with that shares all their interests. At the same time they want to drive out anyone who they would never consider hanging out with. It's not really a matter of simply not associating with them, they genuinely want someone they don't want to hang out with fired/removed.
>>744617131>you say you are hungry and yet there is a perfectly good hot dog rolling around in the parking lot Maybe you're fine with paying $15 for a virtual lawn flamingo for your base but I have higher standards.
>>744607253Me but unironically
>>744617109I very intentionally avoided saying "rise from the ashes" because I don't think the people currently working in the industry will have any hand in new companies or games. Except at most their marketing and accounting departments.
I dont understand, isn't it normal for people to get fired after finishing a project? You made the game, you aren't needed anymore
>>744616995>not counting asset flips like 76It's basically a new game though. 3, NV, and 4 didn't require an online connection.
>>744617240Bethesda spends 4-5 years per game. They worked on Fallout 4, Fallout 76, Starfield and are in the midst of working on TESVI. It's been 18 years since then. I'd say they're right on schedule for a single developer. Bethesda's issue is that they kept the same employees from morrowind and never grew, they should have expanded like every other developer and split into multiple teams handling each game at the same time instead of working on one game at a time, they had enough senior developers there to manage multiple projects of their own.
>>744617323adding a phone home is not, in fact, technologically (or managerially) significant
>>744617283they're needed for the next game.
>>744616243I dont play new games
I can’t believe they fired their entire Nigger Tranny and Woman Department, I fear we may never get TES6 now….
>>744618091>like your pathetic autistic thread itt (in this thread)?>We don't need inferior beings like you and shit themselves??We don't need sub-70 IQ Indian ESLs in the workplace either, yet you still managed to affirmative action your way into one. No point pretending anyone's "inferior" to your worthless ass at this point.>>744618186Do you think everyone can memorise and robotically dispense long-winded paragraphs and rehearsed buzzphrases on the fly without any slip ups or pauses? Listen, there isn't an interviewer on the planet who's going to let you get away with keeping a script on your lap.>>744618286>Refusing to categorically engage in any form or shape of small talk in an environment...Can you link me to the exact, verbatim post where I mentioned doing this? Thanks.
>>744617109Nothing "rises", the IPs get mothballed for 12 years then some contractor studio in Poland gets handed the corpse and told to make it a live service reboot for gamepass. Then everyone acts shocked when it sucks.
>>744606012>liked Morrowind but not huge about it. Never even finished it>liked certain aspects of Fallout 3 more but it fell quite a bit short in many others>New Vegas wasn't made by Bethesda but if it was it'd be their best game.
>>744617759Don't worry, they'll try to stop you from playing those.
>>744615106to be fair, these retards probably thought that gamers will play whatever you throw at them, much like habitual movie watchers will head to the theater every other weekend because a new movie ad appeared somewhere on their social media feed, not because they consciously want to see a certain movie. and it does work a little bit, with people buying shit on steam they end up never playing; but not nearly to the extent of zombie-consumers paying for movie tickets just to kill time.maybe because paying to watch movies in theaters to kill time is a boomer thing, while younger generations have more distractions to choose from (games, social media shit, gym)?
>>744607253racism is unironically inherent to TES. i don't want to see a khajiit respectfully inquiring about a nord's preferred choice of pronouns, i want to see a snobbish altmer treating any non-altmer like shit for existing.
>>744613572Sega, Atlus
>>744619969The casual moviegoer was created by a general expectation that if you watched a movie made by Hollywood, it would be at least moderately entertaining for the natural audience. The casual moviegoer is basically dead because that expectation no longer exists.The left saw something that was massively prosperous and beloved and just assumed that this would always be the case, even if they went in there and fundamentally changed everything that made it work. I think that if you get down to the core of what's causing all of our societal problems, including the collapse of the videogame industry, it's because white men abandoned their duty to lead in the name of blank slate liberalism. What we're seeing is the decision-making process of women and snake-like effeminate men. The solution is for white men to take charge of their own counties again and chase women out of positions of influence (starting with removing their right to vote and hold office) so that reason can reign supreme over feelz again.
>>744616995This is more of an industry-wide thing though. Really there is no market capable of sustaining a company that spends hundreds of millions on a game that takes 8-ish years of development time to produce. Games are too damn complicated, require too many teams of developers, and take too many years to produce to be any kind of cost effective. They cannot possibly make enough money back to pay for the development cycle, and a company cannot just spend money over that amount of time to only produce profit in a 6week span after it is all said and done. On top of that, their audience ages out per game. The development cycle is a console generation before each sequel, or a single generation of teen customers. Most people who bought a game as 13 are not on board to buy the direct sequel at 22.
>>744621579Casual moviegoers were also created by a market that made seeing a movie a cheap, affordable easy experience. Now it's not that easy and it's definitely not cheap. A ticket cost as much as the home copy of a movie, which is a lot higher than the monthly fee of the streaming service at home. Plus there is an annoying assigned seating situation you have to deal with. It's no longer just drop $5 for a ticket and walk on in situation.
>>744607253>WAIT GAMERS WOULD CHOOSE AI MADE GAMES OVER GAMES MADE BY MISANDRIST FAT HAGS AND TRANNIES!? HOW COULD THAT BE!?catposters are all retarded gay niggers without exceptions.
>Nathan Hahn says "we're making great games that players love">this is the list of games he has made>he even added a mario maker level to the list as if he was a developer for it https://nhahngames.me/games.html
>>744606253>1svaffel or however it's spelled>2026rare
>>744607253This but unironically. I want to go back.
>>744617467but a game needs planning, it could take a year before the ideas are there. Letting them sit there doing nothing isnt good and they could get experience elsewhere
>>744611609I didn't want participation trophies as a kid. To me, trophies are awards given for actually winning. The act of participating is itself the participation trophy. But I also don't believe that should be extended for the fight to just exist. Being able to have enough money to buy food and pay your bills shouldn't be considered trophies in the grand game of life. Everyone is forced to participate by default, so the actual trophies should go to those who excel. What I'm saying is, there should be an extensive system for people to support their daily needs and requirements so the act of actually creating art is awarded as intended. The devs here didn't do any work and put out no products, which got them fired. Understandable. But they also needed those jobs to live. The people who SHOULD work at Bethesda, and all companies that produce an artistic product, are the ones who actually want to work on the art. That's the trophy.
Even if Elder Scrolls 6 does come out, it's going to be trash because it was developed by 90% poos, 8% diversity hires, and 2% white men.Enshittification hasn't even reached its peak yet. It's going to get a lot worse before it gets any better.
>>744623157The planning for the next game starts before you finish the current game. If your team has downtime between projects, that’s a failure at the management level. It’s much more inefficient to be constantly turning over and onboarding new employees rather than building loyalty with a reliable team.
