Why aren't you playing Wizardry Daphne if you enjoy dungeon crawlers so much?
I wish I could enjoy dungeon crawlers, but just can't.CRPGs? JRPGs? ARPGs? All cool! But blobbers? Nah. Somehow doesn't work for me.
>>744611384I don't play phone games>B-but the PC version...Sure, call me when they make a proper UIX that doesn't feel like you are emulating it (which is what you are actually doing)
>>744611503Yeah I think I tried legend of Grimrock or hwatever it was called and bounced off of it super hard
>>744611384But I did. I even contacted John Drecom and asked for my account password back because I forgot it.
The micro transactions are a bit greedy but even so playing the game was fun. Unfortunately they decided to add kernel level anti-cheat which Borked Linux/Steamdeck play and the developers don't seem to care. Can't recommend for that reason. A real shame. RIP.
>why aren't you playing gacha if you enjoy a huge genre with many good games in it that aren't gachaI hope you fall out of your bed in the middle of the night and can't get to sleep afterwards.
>>744611384dogshit pc port with dogshit anticheat
i prefer wizardry velma
>>744612228based
i don't want to play gacha trash. complete skip
>>744611989>>744612342>>744611897go back uncs
>>744611384anon this screenshot has a weird ratio, like it was taken on a phone. how is this a game?
>>744612498>crticisms of foundational problems with the game>uncsyou have to be 18 to post here.
>>744611728Grimrock is just an inferior version of Dungeon Master.Funny how the game that defined the genre is also (arguably) the best one ever made.
>>744612962you have to go start a family and touch grass
>>744613014This could be said of many genre-defining games, but we all like to have more of a good thing.
because it's ugly as fuck, gray and brown everywheredesigns are bland and boringit's a phone gacha
>>744612764It's obviously a tate screen
>>744611728It's painfully boring but not representative of Wizardry-esque blobbers.
>>744611897I was just going to respond "gacha" but looks like I can't play it anyways.
>>744612498>>744613032He's already looping. Poor retard.
Dirty elves
>>744611384Shitty gacha games aren't for people who enjoy dungeon crawlers, they're for people who enjoy gambling and grinding endlessly.
>>744611384I do, really need to get around to finishing A3 but I've been distracted by the random events
>>744611384The name makes me think of Daphne Greengrass
>>744611384Because I'm still hooked on Daggerfall.Maybe I'll try this out later.
>>744616863I need to play Daggerfall more but I'm still messing around with Tamriel Rebuilt
>>744611384Played it on release on android. Wasn't all that great.
FF11 collab by the way
I want free-camera viewer so I can look up skirts.
Decent game ruined by the gacha mechanics. I wish they made an actual offline singleplayer version of this game.
>>744611384Any sexy characters?
>>744611384Because the first labyrinth is too basic and boring, can never finish it i end up loading up a different dungeon crawler every time, even other wizardry games
>>744618324Good news there's 8 wizardry games plus jap spin offs
>>744611384why do lazy developers still make wizardry clones instead of ultima underworld or daggerfall clones?
>>744618738Because wizardry is better than both those games
>>744618775thats like saying pong is better than mario tennis
I might pick it up when it eventually goes EoS and they release it as a standalone game, but I will never in my life actually play a gacha game while its ongoing
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>>744611384I played this for like 2 months then they had an absolute dead period gap for some reason. Maybe the game's popularity caught them by surprise.
>>744617450I have the opposite problem. I tell myself I need to finish base game Morrowind but Daggerfall is in the way.We should just take our times, I suppose.
>>744611384I played it for a while and it was absolutely eating my phone battery, so I told myself I'd wait for the PC port.The PC port had it's own issues, especially that it did nothing for the huge latency you'd get on selecting menus. It didn't matter if it was just advancing a meaningless conversation with a peasant, you still had to wait for it to ping the server, confirm the game state, then feed back an ok to advance the conversation.I had my fun with it, I'll wait to see if they make any new offline drpgs out of the framework/assets
>>744611384I have yet to finish Grimoire.
>>744611384Is it actually good? I have to admit I've never played any of the proper Wizardry games. I've done a lot of the Atlus dungeon crawlers and just got done with Dungeon Travellers 2-2 so another game could be fun. I did start and immediately drop the Sword City game cause of how weird the grinding felt and Mary Skelter, going back to finish those could be fun too.
>>744611384Because I want W6 style crawlers not W1-3 and W5 and Japan hates those.
Why the fuck would I play a money grubbing, filesniffing corpse wearing the face of a good series when I could just play the actual good games in the series?
>>744613014Looks stupidly slow and doesn't have anime girls or mods. No thank you
>>744611384That's a gacha game, not a dungeon crawler.
>gachano thanks
>>744622671In old ones like Dungeon Master and Eye of the Beholder you move instantly. So they play way faster than modern crap that forces you to watch an animation for every single fucking step you take.(It's for this same reason why I prefer the original Brandish over that overrated PSP remake)
What's the general opinion on the Touhou Labyrinth games I got through the first segment in 2 and 3 but the games seem to run so poorly on my pc that I don't really want to stick with them... Thinking of grinding when spell effect slow down so much and I can't turn them off is sucky
>>744622540It's actually good but you have to deal with the fact it's a mobile game and there's a gacha. You don't need the shiny gacha characters but some of them are hilariously strong and make a lot of the game easy
>>744622880Never played them but I liked Toohoo Artificial Dream in Arcadia
>>744611384>Uses Kernel Level Anti-Cheat
>>744611384AI generated game.their dev company owns an AI development service.
>>744623831I wish they would AI generate for the game so content gets released quicker
>>744624106they're too busy waiting on their AI debugger.they had a demo video of their debugger running and it took forever to do simple gameplay commands
>>744622880Arcadia is the only good Touhou dungeon crawler
>>744622660Wizardry 6 is pretty fucking good
>>744622880I liked 2 but I heard 3 had problems? Not too sure since I didn't have time to play it
I refuse to play games made before 2012. I had fun with them as a kid, but I want modern looking stuff. Not triple-A shit, but I want menus that still actually look good on a 1440p setup. I want sfx and vfx that aren't dated to fuck. I want characters who look pretty instead of pretty lame. I want responsive gameplay and quest markers.Etrian Odyssey needs a 2026 release. Not a remaster. A fucking release.
where do i start with wizardry? do i play the console ports of the originals?
>>744611503maybe try megaten anon. those are probably the most entry level dungeon crawlers for jrpgfags
>>744624617Multiple places to start. Wizardry 1 has a very recent (like 1 or 2 years old) remake that is very good. Other good places to start is the Llylgamin Saga which are remakes of 1-3 on PS1. Wiz 6 also has a good SNES port.Wiz 7 is probably one of the hardest to get into despite being one of the best. Avoid the PS1 port of it. Wiz 8 is in 3d and is pretty good too.There's also Tale of the Forsaken Land, which is a very good Wiz game on the PS2
>>744622540>Is it actually good?No, it's only praised by mobile game addicts. Everything about the gacha design ruins the experience, from the rare gacha characters having overpowered skills, to the way you level up skills being by feeding characters dupes from the gacha, to the gacha also having overpowered gear, to the timegating of character development materials like level cap unlocks which you only get on a weekly basis, to normal gear being an RNG shitfest designed as a material sink, to the grinding of event dungeons for growth materials. The plot is also retarded and operates on every character being stupid as shit and refusing to avoid the most obvious pitfalls imaginable until falling to them first and then needing to go through a convoluted process to avoid them the second time around.Literally all it has going for it in an objective measure is the presentation being above average for a dungeon crawler, as a game it's thoroughly mediocre.
>>744622880Never played the first one but 2 is superb, it's got a solid combat system designed around swapping characters between the active front line and the back line as needed and so you end up using all 16 characters in battle to do take advantage of situational effects or opportunities while also letting different tactics work.3 is a mixed bag, it improved the presentation of the fields a lot but the story sucks and everyone is boring, but the bigger issue is that it leans way harder into bosses having gimmicks with specific counters that you have to design your entire party around to beat, instead of having the freedom to tackle bosses with multiple viable strategies.>>744624571See above.
>>744611384Wizardry is gay & I'm tired of pretending its not. Id rather play from slop
>>744611384gatchas are shitty
It’s such a good game. I’d like it on console, but whatever.
>>744611384>>744618205how is the ffxi collab in this game?Is Shantotto in it too?
>>744626276>>744618205Prishe, Iroha, and Zeid as playable characters. Ulmia, Tenzen, and Lion appear as supports for them but aren't playable. Cait Sith also waddles around
>>744611384>p2w>more grind than BDO>recycled dungeonsI best the third abyss true end then got bored. Waste of time. Would be better if it wasn't gacha kusoge. And even the devs admit it.
>>744611384Being forced to get a bad ending every abyss in wizardry variants Daphne is retarded There are no loli characters The fucking fairies have no gender If you're going to shill the gacha at least mention the FFXI collab with the shadowlord
abenius is cute and strong and best and cute
>>744611384>Why aren't you playing Wizardry Daphne if you enjoy dungeon crawlers so much?Because its gatchashit.I actually played it for a couple of weeks. It's the same shit as every other gatchashit with all the daily bullshit, gambling for content, limited time events, etc, and the actual dungeon crawling aspect suffers because of it.
>>744611384I'd like to say that I don't like it because of gacha, but my problem with it is that it's buggy piece of fuck. Every single update there's a pretty good chance to find a poorly implemented event that would either get stuck forever or start a disconnect loop.
Gachashit is not vidya. Fuck off.
>>744618408The female characters in general show a surprising amount of cleavage and skin.
Only played king's field and need some better dungeon Crawler
anyone played this game? apparently some important people worked on itI'm about to jump into it, the appealing character art and the existence of an undub made me interested
>>744615494>gambling and grinding endlessly.Sounds like a dungeon crawler to me.
>>744634704Never heard of it but I feel like I've seen that minotaur posted before
>>744611384Because I am replaying SMT:SJ Redux for the fourth time on my Fold. This game (with or without Redux) is the ABSOLUTE pinnacle of Dungeon Crawlers.
>>744634332Were you in coma for the last 30 years?
>>744637465Moh Shuvuu sex...
>>744638694Have some Moh Shuvouuuuuuuuuuuuuu...
>>744611384>gachasloppahmm yeah I wonder why>>744634704I remember this, it's on psp right? I remember liking it quite a bit.
>Gacha>Kernel Level anti cheat>TapJoy (download malware to get gems)Fuck off. Gachas aren't games. Dailies are unpaid jobs.
>>744626921Same experience I had. Every event was just same dungeon tile set recycled for the 34895th time. To keep playing you need to grind for gear for dozens and dozens of hours on top of the blatant p2w.The game starts strong with Abyss 1 which is the only bit of real game content where they try to combine with honeymoon period to hook you in for good, after that it's pure predatory degeneracy. Only 50 year old japanese sararyman and gambling addicts can stomach this kusoge.
>>744626921>And even the devs admit it.that's the saddest shit
>>744611384my tablet is shit and I wont let denuvo on my pc
>>744638694Failure as a human!
>>744611384Tried itIt DOES feel like a shitty mobile gacha game, not like a real WizardryFuck you guys for lying about this
>>744611503Personally I just hate the first person combat. Well, you can't really call it first person combat, since you don't actually see combat happening from first person, just a bunch of random effects happening on screen. That shit is 2abstract4me.
>>744611384I hate gacha and mobile games more than I love dungeon crawlers.
play fight knight
Given it’s an ongoing game, how do you even evolve the dungeon crawling experience without becoming straight up Demons Souls?
