This will be the only game section you see in your local store after 2028.
I don't think Microsoft is dropping physical with Xbox. They're gonna zig where sony zags and make the most of Sony's massive fuck up.
>>744614313And they'll all be gay cuck cards.
>>744614969Yeah, about that….
>>744614969>I don't think Microsoft is dropping physical with Xbox.They already have. Check your local stores Xbox section and try to find any recent releases.
>>744615075Still a better media format than what Sony or Valve offers.
>>744614313This all started with "Fuck GameStop," btw.
>>744614313They're still gonna be selling Breath of the Wild and Smash Ultimate at Target while Snoy and Microshit will only be selling consoles and some copy of LEGO Horizon Adventures for $5 because they weren't able to sell it.
>>744614969It's not even about dropping physical. A bunch of chain stores just flat out stopped stocking Xbox products already. Too much of a liability because they only have so many locked display cases and """certain demographics""" would steal that shit by the truckload.
Lets talk about happy things like girl feet and the cheese betwixt their toes
>>744615234>implying microsoft even knows what they are doingAt least we are getting their emulators this year.
>>744615326My local Target is just selling gun and ball shit for Xbox.
>>744614313>game section>actually has game toys and gamesI'm ok with this...>>744614969>I don't think Microsoft is dropping physical with Xbox.They were the first ones to drop them with Xbox One and then GP.
>>744615326>Xbox sectionThose went away here 2 years after the new consoles. Now they are selling PS5 games with 70 % discounts. Nothing worth it in that box
>>744615327>I may have aids, but at least I don't have cancer!
>>744614313Any gamekey cards bought after or opened after Switch 2 online inevitably shutsdown will not work. They only work if the game is previously tied to it and if it isn't it will just be a useless plastic cartridge
>744616462Wii, DSi, 3DS, and Wii U servers for downloads tied to your account/system are all still available. 20 years later and I could still re-download Super Mario 64 onto my launch Wii. You're fear mongering and being a disingenuous shitter.
>>744615327>snoyiggers have literally been freaking out on sony over the cancelation of discs>nincels just mindlessly accept what daddy sloptendo commands
>>744616462Are you retarded? You really think they're still going to be producing carts after they shut down the eshop? lmao
>>744616363If I said or did something to offend you then I formally do not apologize.
>>744614969>Sony's massive fuck up.How young are you dipshits? This is literally Xbox's exact approach to the Xbox One, for which they were eviscerated upon reveal and backpedaled immediately...for a bit. Xbox is absolutely doing this and this whole "disc to digital" shit they're planning is part of it.
>>744616462Serious question, when do you think that will happen? The Wii still allows you to re-download games 20 years later, and that was a 480p console that was not future-proofed at all. We're looking at 30 years MINIMUM, likely 50 or more years until Switch 2 stops allowing re-downloading of software. Most of us here will be 80 years old at that time. Also, Switch and Switch 2 use flash memory that has a life span of about 20-30 years, anyway, so full physical ironically won't last that long regardless.In the meantime however, GKCs are infinitely better than being locked to Sony's online store with dynamic pricing and no way to share, loan, sell, or gift your used games.If your only response to this is to throw insults, then I accept your full concession.
>>744616462While I would normally agree with you and I don't like GKCs any more than anyone else does, it seems unlikely Nintendo will shut down service for them in like decades. The Wii storefront is still active, you can still download purchased games to Wiis. Same with the 3DS storefront, and Pokemon's Bank service, while officially expired, hasn't actually ended and people can still use it.So this won't be a problem for like 20 years. There's other reasons to not like GKCs that are more prominent, like being physical carts but still requiring a digital download, using up microSD card space that could just be on the game cart instead.
>>744616667That's because GKCs are a pro consumer pushback to the digital overtake while dropping physical entirely is embracing the anticonsumer digitak overtake.
>>744616787>How young are you dipshits? Older than you.>This is literally Xbox's exact approach to the Xbox One, for which they were eviscerated upon reveal and backpedaled No it isn't. That was regarding an always online approach which is a completely different topic than what media format you decide to publish. >Xbox is absolutely doing this and this whole "disc to digital" shit they're planning is part of itThen they won't be capitalizing on Sony's massive fuckup and I'll be slightly disappointed they passed up on their golden opportunity.
>>744616667>snoyiggers have literally been freaking out on sony over the cancelation of discsSnoys are freaking out on people attacking their friends at sony, not the cancellation of discs. I've seen so many of them defend sony by bringing up the manipulated digital data where sony considers free downloads, demos and microtransaction as digital purchases
>>744616856Not that retard but how do we know these games won't be playable in a future platform? If the next nintendo console can play S1 and S2 games then these games will last even longer than 30 years
I should be happy, because gaming should be better without sony and Microsoft who have done nothing but make the industry worse, but Nintendo needs competition. It's sad that Sony and Microsoft just can't be bothered to even try any more
>>744617021Tell me how this image makes you feel
>>744618678B^U
>>744616462>>744616462So it's the exact same time gated unknown as a traditional digitally formated media purchase, but you own your purchase with GKCs versus owning nothing with traditional digital. Cool thanks for the pro GKC messaging.
>>744618678Why are they crying?
>>744618678Only thing that comes to mind is it looks like half of loss. Is this a Rorschach test?
>>744615075More publishers are pivoting towards non-GKC.
>>744614313>game key cardsMiss me with that gay shitI want real ownership
>>744614969>Sony's massive fuck upvocal minority of browns and retards80-85% of PS4 and PS5 game sales are digital, that's why they're ditching discs
>>744619201Not square. I'll laugh when mainline pokemon games are also GKC.
>>744617021Physical vs digital is a red herring you stupid fuckers keep falling forThe real problem is DRM and accounts. If digital games were like disc dumps or GOG's offline DRM-free installers, no one would bat an eye.
>>744615327You actually own your digital PC games. You don't even own your physical games.
>>744619587>zoomer mixing up ownership with copyrightYour digital PC games are copyright'd as well, bro...
>>744619372That's very kind of Sony for offering up to 20% of their market share to Nintendo and Microsoft.
>>744619436They're both valid concerns from the consumer perspective. It's not an either or kind of thing
>>744619665>MS>selling units of physical games
>>744619650>my digital games can be copied infinitely, played across a multitude of devices, and don't need company permission to modify them>physical games can..... be sold at gamestop for 5 dollars? Is the latter supposed to be enticing?
>>744619587I disagree. I also refuse to help you with correcting that opinion that you just stated as a fact.
>>744619797Ok then 20% to Nintendo
>>744619809>>my digital games can be copied infinitely, played across a multitude of devices, and don't need company permission to modify themNotice how you mentioned the word copied. >physical games can..... be sold at gamestop for 5 dollars?Your "digital" games could never
>>744619990I can see a new version of the "it prints money" edit in the horizon
>>744619774Publishers could make it so you could sell your installer. They obviously won't because each used sale is a lost sale
>>744619436Amusingly enough, you don't need a NSO account to download GKCs, but you do need one for code in box shit like GTA6.
>>744615450My Walmart recently started locking up Legos and I don't live around any blacks.
>>744620153that's only natural, once the well is poisoned enough people at large start acting like brownoids regardless of their actual skin color
>>744620010>Your "digital" games could neverWhy would you buy a game that you never intended to keep?
>>744614313Nintendo will also abandon physical media.
>>744620280>Why would you buy a game that you never intended to keep?Beats me but not everyone is a hoarder like you
>>744620323Hell, they keep abandoning their digital games. You're not even allowed to transfer games from the WiiU/3ds to the switch. And half the transferrable games between switch and switch 2 have content locked behind paywalls.
>>744620323>TWO MORE WEEKS
>>744614313All CD music stores became clothing and merch stores at some point. That gonna happen with video games. Stores are only gonna sell hardware and merchandize eventually.
>>744620369>you HAVE to sell your game the moment you finish playing it>no you're not allowed to keep it because....????I guess Nintendo games just aren't that good if the idea of keeping them is so abhorrent.
>>744615327>Still a better media format than what Valve offers
>>744620280Made a mistake, or you no longer care to play it and you just wanna cash out
>>744620516You mean problems that could be solved if you researched it beforehand, or just pirated it to try it out?
>>744620453>claims to own games but he can't even sell themLooks like you don't own them then
>>744620392>You're not even allowed to transfer games from the WiiU/3ds to the switch3DS is a handheld. Also; from 3DS/Wii/WiiU to Switch Nintendo adopted the nu storefront mindset; a storefront that won't be left behind shortly after the new system releases, this is why it looks flat, minimalistic and devoid of personality in comparison
>>744617021>GKCs>pro consumer
>>744620453>I guess Nintendo games just aren't that good if the idea of keeping them is so abhorrentYou'd be surprised how quick post ps3 and xbox 360 game releases hit the curb and garage sales...
>>744620323At least they went down fighting
>>744620630It's a fact, not an opinion.
>>744620323They already did.
>>744620587You're still not explaining why you would want to sell them?
>>744617021>GKCs are a pro consumer>3rd party driven means>pro consumer
>>744620723I wouldn't personally.
>>744620691Kys shill.
>>744620670Well, yeah. Anyone who isn't a zoomer or millenial can tell you that the PS3 and 360 era of games was a wasteland of mindless waggleshit and brown and grey military shooters.
Kino, Playstation sections were just filled with madden, 2k, Fifa and yearly slop anyways with a ton of prepaid cards for the digital store.
>>744620794That era had a lot of good games if you didn't just stick to the waggle and ball and gun shit. Even some of the shooters were pretty good like Vanquish and Just Cause 2.
>>744620571Selling was the solution, not the problem. And it is a right of ownership. The problem was my PS4 came with TLOU1 remastered. I solved that problem by selling it still in the shrinkwrap.
>>744620778then it's a useless feature. I'd rather games never be resellable, if it means they have the features of a digital PC game. IE never being purposedly left behind and unplayable, and if problems do arise, you're allowed to fix them.Like there are PC games from 2001 that can still be played on modern PCs. If you bought, oh say, Deus Ex back in 2001, you can STILL play it today. A few minor bugs here and there, but that's what community fixes are for.Infact you have multiple flavors you can choose from, from GMDX to Revision.Meanwhile, if I'm a Nintendo fan and I want to play Paper Mario TTYD on the switch, my only option is to play the gay demaster. I can't put my gamecube disk into the switch 2, and I can't rip the rom and put it in my switch 2 either. And I'm not holding out hope that they'll put it on NSO, which will just be a glorified rental.
>>744615234Son my pc hasn't had a disc drive for well over a decade at this point.
>>744620824>prepaid cards for the digital storeEventually the entire section will just be this.
>>744620723The value of nintendo products increases over time so it'll be worth selling them in the future. Let me guess, "it doesn't count"?
>>744620925>selling was the solution, not the problemOR you could've just pirated.
>>744620996So you're just treating them like stock investments, and have no intention of permanently keeping and playing them.
>>744620630Sorry I meant to say more pro consumer than the alternative of traditional digital. It's obviously anticonsumer when compared to traditional fully on cart/disc physical.
>>744620919>That era had a lot of good gamesNot nearly as one may think; gen 7 was a disaster for gaming, games became shallow as fuck after it was fractured by retarded audiences falling for memes calling Wii childish and Kutaragi advocating to cinematic experiences going in the polar opposite direction from Wii negating gameplay being the core value of... a videogame. Everyone in the middle that aligned with PS360 console ended up selling smoke; mature games for mature audiences, that were shallow as fuck and almost no replayable beyond their bulk
>>744620503Like a moth to a flame, the switch thread has attracted ACFag
>>744621112>not even the same filename0/10 see me after class
>>744620931It's not a feature lmao>Meanwhile, if I'm a Nintendo fan and I want to play Paper Mario TTYD on the switch, my only option is to play the gay demasterIf you were a Nintendo fan you'd be playing TTYD on your GC or Wii instead as re-releases and remasters of gen 6 games are inferior versions.
>>744621014I'm not interested in playing TLOU1
>>744621165>he's cycling filenamesPussy
>>744621057>have no intention of permanently keeping and playing themI'm not going to play video games my entire life.
>>744621057>So you're just treating them like stock investments, and have no intention of permanently keeping and playing them.>Says a hoarderYou're not different than collectorfags
>>744621169>If you were a Nintendo fan you'd be playing TTYD on your GC or WiiWhy are neither playable on the Switch or Switch 2? I have 20 year old steam games that still run on modern PCs, Nintendo has no excuse.
>>744621232>>744621238>erm actually playing video games is for losers, the stock market is better anyway
>>744621165>thinks we don't know filenames can be randomised
>>744621240>Why are neither playable on the Switch or Switch 2?Because they haven't been released, simple as that.>I have 20 year old steam games that still run on modern PCsSo? You'd be surprised the amount of PC games you can't play on a modern rig and are lost to time; lost media happens to any medium
it looks like after the internal leak about smaller carts than 64GB being made available more and more small publishers are adopting the fully physical format, it does seem to pay off too because a lot of people buy them to support the good will of these devs
>>744620996I don't think a GKC version of some random port is gonna hold much value in the future.
>>744621295>he treats ownership as stock marketnot helping your case.
>>744614313I haven’t been to a game store to buy a game in over 5 yearsLast game I bought physical was a switch game too lol
>>744621076Neither is a pro-consumer solution. For that you would need the GOG solution, selling copies with no DRM. Otherwise you are just buying different brands of poison.
>>744621358this list doesn't include japan-only releases either, so the situation might be even better than pictured
>>744614313And it's just a download code. Assumption of Internet connectivity ended the golden era if gaming.
>>744621295Nah you can do both.
Can you physicalfags fuck off? It's just a console thing. Who gives a shit about console babies? Kill yourselves. Nobody likes you.
>>744621358>it looks like after the internal leak about smaller carts than 64GB being made available more and more small publishers are adopting the fully physical formatOh this is nice>the 3rd party faggots that ended up being the reason of gkc's existence still are going to use gkc for their games, below 5gb or deny compresing and optimizing at all for bigger sizesPathetic
>>744621401>>744621476You're still saying that you don't like playing the games, and only hold them so you can sell them later. That means the games are shit.You should want to keep a game for your entire life, until you die. Otherwise it's a shit game.
>2028Anon Amazon will be delivering everything to your door in 2028
>>744621295>NEET anon is going to be his 80s still playing terraria on his mom's computer Sounds pretty pathetic yeah
>>744621573That wasn't the case 4 years ago? Why is that bad again?
>>744621498they honestly should kill themselves, we REALLY dont have AAA companies enough
>>744621576>Terraria is just THAT good>never have to rebuy it due to console-centric planned obsolescenceZamn. Best 99 cents I ever spent.
>>744621358nice, i hope they also optimize so the size of the game isn't ballooning
>>744621358>Square Enix and Capcom hell bent on doing only key cardsI hate them,
>>744621527>You're still saying that you don't like playing the games, and only hold them so you can sell them later.Nobody has stated that, vegan>You should want to keep a game for your entire life, until you die. This but won't matter coming from you since you got played like a fiddle.>Otherwise it's a shit game.Not quite; attachment can happen even with shitty games. It's not about quality but onwership, you wouldn't get it
Do people really still visit real life stores instead of buying online?
>>744621429GoG doesn't offer that
>>744621358>culdcept begins is completely on physicaloh shit
>>744621679everyone does actually
>>744621527>You're still saying that you don't like playing the games, and only hold them so you can sell them later. That means the games are shitOr you're wrong and making a spectacle over nothing, which is what I'm leaning towards.
>>744621645>Nobody has stated that, veganThen you would never want to sell them. The very idea should be repugnant.>This but won't matter coming from you since you got played like a fiddle.I get to keep my games for life, and don't have to worry about them being taken away? Yeah, real fiddle hours there.>Not quite; attachment can happen even with shitty games. It's not about quality but onwership, you wouldn't get itI bought Terraria back in 2012, I've continued to keep it since then, the game can be copied and played on any computer, even without steam installed, and it can be modded and changed endlessly for my amusement. Seems like I own it. >b-but you can't resell itlol why would I resell it? Do you REALLY need to recoup 99 cents that badly?
>>744621080The Xbox/PS3/Wii era had Demon's Souls, Monster Hunter Tri, Muramasa The Demon Blade, Bayonetta, Dragon Age Origins and DOTA2, games that still bad quite a bit of complexity. This alongside the start of the indie revolution with games like World of Goo, Braid and Limbo. The ball and gun shit became quite mind dumbing, but there was a lot of good stuff going on.
>>744615580This is every single box store I've seen since probably 2020; I can't remember the last time I saw any physical retailer with more than maybe half a dozen games for each system. There's at best a single shelf of games if that. People complaining about Sony killing physical need to be grilling the retailers for not stocking any of them just as bad.
>>744621628>Capcom missed the chance to release DMC5 in Switch 2>Digital only>They would've use a keycard anyway>Onimusha is going to be a keycardI made a mistake and got my hopes a little up and forgot the single fact they were among the first ones to jump on board and pull paid dlc jewery
>>744621785You only care about games for their resell value. Quite literally admitted it here>>744620996
>>744621112I saved that image like a day ago.
>>744621358Based
>>744621679It's the only way I do it, bitch>I get to keep my games for life, and don't have to worry about them being taken away? Yeah, real fiddle hours there.And yet you needed to justify yourself at the mere sight of being called hoarder.
here are my PC specs btw, before some retard claims that im coping about weak hardware and physical gamesI LOVE GAMES AND OWNING THEM TOO
>>744615580people already only buy digital except for the absolute normie audience, this is just the retail stores adapting to reality.
>>744621921What is wrong with keeping a game that you like?
>>744621690Are you mentally impaired?
>>744621862He's right, the value on quite a few Nintendo games goes up over time.
>>744621786>I bought Terraria back in 2012, I've continued to keep it since thenSee? Attachment can happen if the game is shitty>Seems like I own it.No; you control it (its data). Not quite the same.
>>744621747Now post CD and DVD sales.
>>744621982Not at all, why?
>>744621976You tell me; you jumped into that conclusion on your own.
>>744621358It wasn't even a leak, nintendo already offered SDXC carts smaller than 64GB on launch, which is what stuff like azuma used.What they are doing now is allowing switch 1 nand to be used on switch 2 cart cases, which they didn't before, and it's also far cheaper due to not being SDXC.This is also likely why stuff like the bomberman collection can come in fully in cart for the switch 2, the new sw2 minimum cart size is now 1GB.
>>744621997>See? Attachment can happen if the game is shittyExcept it's a good game. Not sure why you're hating on it so much.>No; you control it (its data)That's all that matters for ownership.
There isnt a serious display for Playstation or xbox in my local Walmart and there hasn't been for years. This was already reality that's why theyre dropping physical.There's bigger displays for PC gaming parts where I live at Walmart over the combined displays for xbox and ps5. There isnt even a real "gaming aisle", it's just a few shelves for Nintendo and like 2 spots for a handful of sports games for the others.
>>744622037Can't, Goku and Vegeta are fighting there currently
>>744621924Post PC case with timestamp.
>>744619372How much of that is DLC and gacha microtransactions?
>>744621817Sports stuff being the lions share of consoles was a thing even in the 90's. EA shelled out an insane amount of money at the time to secure the exclusive license for NFL games because the competition 2K was putting out was proving to be enough to float the Dreamcast's entire sales even in the face of Sega giving up on it early, and that's not getting into the shit like Sports Talk Football where Sega was positioning the tech and sampling in their football games as the #2 reason to buy a Genesis behind Sonic, if it weren't for that shit Sega would have been annihilated by Nintendo in the west. Anyone complaining about normies determining what games move consoles in the 7th gen on is an idiot who wasn't paying attention.
>>744622048You sure? Go check with your local head doctor.
>>744621631>Best 99 cents I ever spent.You don't have to keep reminding us that you're broke and unemployed. We get it, you've said so like a billion times
>>744622215So you're going to argue that higher price = better game?
>>744621837Sorry anon, the big J companies are all kike controlled now
>>744622083>Except it's a good gameNah, it's a snoozefest as a game. Fair if you like it tho>That's all that matters for ownership.Not quite. With digital you lack the tangible.
>>744622180I'm good, thanks.
>>744621358>villion code is fully in-cart>motherfucking chinkpile shart can put games fully in-cart, meaning the new nep will likely be tooat this point i think it's only sega, crapcom and shart enix that vehemently refuse to do in-cart releases, even westoids are willing to do it with trannypunk and the oblivion remake, among others like the indiana jones game
>>744622159I think the issue is that the PSX and PS2 had room for everyone. Tons of sports games but also quite a bit of unique European games and weird Japanese releases. Most of the AA market got wiped out by the Xbox 360.
>>744622276>Nah, it's a snoozefest as a game4000 hours of enjoyment would beg to differ. That's more time than I've spent with every Nintendo game I've played in the past 10 years, combined.>Not quite. With digital you lack the tangible.Okay, I'll put the exe on a thumb drive. Now it's tangible.
>>744619587lmao steamies really believe this don't they?
>>744622248>got played after being called a hoarder>got flustered inmediately after the implication of being poorhe's quite insecure, huh?
>>744622284That's clearly not the case, but you cannot tell obviously.
>>744614313>leaving your house>evernormies get out
>>744622358>4000 hours of enjoyment would beg to differ.That only confirms you enjoy boring gameplay in that particular software. >I'll put the exe on a thumb drive>this cope againNo; you only own the thumb drive. If it's not officially locked that game data has no tangible form, the closest thing, the best thing as far as digital on pc is GoG.
>>744622374Yes, I do like keeping games I bought, because I intend to play them. I guess that makes me a hoarder? idk'
>>744622368Steam games are tied to a digital account that can be secured by 2FA. Physical games are physical DRM that will degrade with time, and these days they also have to connect to the console maker in order to authenticate anyway.
>>744622313Mh Wilds simply wont fit into 64GB but Capcom has a chance to release the next portable tittle fully into a cart and break the local market, if they dont its literally over
>>744622474>I guess that makes me a hoarder?According to the average digitalfag; yes. How does it feel being called out?
Its a good thing when Snoy does it.
>>744614313Dude, it’s already over
>>744621628In the case of some games, they really do need the SSD reading speeds because they were specifically designed around SSD usage if they were on PS5/XSX and on PS4/Xbone. For those, a GKC is understandable. If it's also on PS4(and especially the games that are also on Switch 1 on cart) then it's plain greed.
>>744622402I'll survive.
do people really still going to store to buy these stuff
>>744615326In Downtown San Francisco
>>744622515>the next portable
>>744622515Anon, 64GB is the minimum, I think SDXC carts can go up to 1TB.
>>744622248More like I'm making fun of you. There's no point in arguing with your bitchass if you're just going to argue in bad faith. Also you're poor
>>744616687Stores, online and brick and mortar will have unsold inventory yes. And copies you buy and don't open years from now will be dead>>744616856It'll happen whenever nintendo feels like it. Having the whole game on the cartridge is infinitely better than gkc>>744616904What I'm talking about has nothing to do redownloading stuff you bought off the wii store. Im obviously talking about gkc that have never been used before so when the online shutsdown you cant activate the license for the first time
>>744622528>no socks Highly melaniated person spotted.
>>744622495>i hope you're not implying Steam is DRM free
>>744618848That is literally not what i said. Why are you intentionally misunderstanding the gkc only works if you activate it before online shutsdown. If you never activate it until time runs out you cant access the license, its useless
>>744622689Steam has some DRM checks, but it's not fully encrypted shit like consoles have. Shit like SecuROM and Denuvo are just attempts at forcing console-level DRM onto PC.
I dunno man I just play games. If I don't feel like going to the store I buy digies
>>744622464>That only confirms you enjoy boring gameplay in that particular software. You're not saying why it's boring. IDK just sounds like you hate fun.>If it's not officially locked that game data has no tangible formThat sounds like a personal issue. I can hold it, give it away, modify it. Just seems like ownership in every way that matters.>>744622516I'm having fun How is it bad?
>>744622837>but it's not fully encrypted shit like consoles have.it literally has encrypted payloadsthe encryption is just ass because valve would rather buy more yachts instead, games like beast of reincarnation already got hit by pre-release cracking
>>744622620>a game is bad if it doesn't cost 80 dollarsMy condolences if you think this. this is literally the defense used for GTA6. Is that the side you want to be on?
>>744622716What the fuck? Don't you play your games as soon as you buy them? I can't be the only one out there still psyched for every new game like when I was a kid.
>>744622860>You're not saying why it's boring.It's simply non-engaging. Not everyone has ADHD and calls fun those minecraft type of games.>That sounds like a personal issue. I can hold it, give it away, modify it.>modifiy itThat's the problem; ownership and control are about products that are ensured to be untampered. Once it's prone to be rigged that thing is not ownership since its integrity is in doubt. I wouldn't give money to something anything that
>>744622628When do you think this is happening?
>>744622628>Stores, online and brick and mortar will have unsold inventory yes. And copies you buy and don't open years from now will be deadNot sure why anyone would be opening up a brand sealed copy of a game they stopped producing 30 years ago.
Bring back game manuals
>>744622837>Steam has some DRM checks, but it's not fully encrypted shit like consoles haveStill DRM, no excuses.
>>744622716That won't be an issue for me.
>>744623123Steam having bad DRM actually works out best for all parties.
>>744621954I still don't know how it's possible to be a failed lolcow.Nintendo hate schizos truly surpass themselves each day in their own fucked up way.
>>744623063>It's simply non-engaging.That's not really an answer. >ownership and control are about products that are ensured to be untamperedAh, so I don't own my physical carts from the NES-Wii eras, since I can tamper with them and modify them. whoopsie doodles, I didn't know.
>>744622989>putting words in my mouthThanks for proving my point. Get a job, your parents aren't going to be supporting your fatass forever
>>744623174You could say the same for Denuvo.
>>744623232All I said was that a game doesn't have to be 80 dollars with microtransactions and DLC to be good.
>>744622998>>744623094>>744623160You're missing the point. Not everyone is you. Parents don't always buy their kids games as soon as they come out, they might wait until it goes onsale. Imagine your mom/dad got you a game for your birthday or Christmas and you tried to play it but when you put it in it says the nintendo online cant access the licenseGoddamn i swear some people fail the breakfast question. Literally cant think of a hypothetical outside their own life
>>744622593pls believe anon, believe!
>>744623270No, denuvo actually prevents people from playing games. That's not good for everyone, that's good for shareholders. Steam having bad DRM satisfies shareholders who are happy a game has DRM and satisfies everyone else who just bypasses it. Steam DRM is preventing companies like denuvo from being ubiquitous.
>>744623210>That's not really an answer.It's all it matters for games; if it's not engaging, fun won't arrive.>>744623210>Ah, so I don't own my physical carts from the NES-Wii eras, since I can tamper with them and modify them.No, you actually own those. The discs more than the carts in this day and age since you can't add data to those. Carts too since replacements and knowledge about it may be lost but I think this is not the case yet
>>744614313Is buying games at Walmart really an experience to be missed? You might as well go full digital storefront when that's the only game store
>>744623357This won't happen unless you live in Japan.
>>744623357I feel for those hypothetical people but that's not my problem.
>>744623093Dunno, the wii u online died pretty early. I was hoping people wouldn't buy a switch 2 since Nintendo makes it to where your console gets bricked if you play used games or other stupid reasonsThe boycott didn't work despite everyone spamming "lower the price"
Heres a hot investing tip.Brand New Xbox Series Games. Preorder as many as you can. The print runs are so fucking small (20,000 in some instances) and disc diddlers are so fucking desperate for shelf frisbees you'll 4x your investment in months.
>>744623395>No, denuvo actually prevents people from playing games. That's not good for everyone, that's good for shareholders.Yeah, all parties involved. The final consumer means jackshit, sadly>Steam having bad DRM satisfies shareholders who are happy a game has DRMClearly not since Denuvo was created with a clear purpose
>>744623404>It's all it matters for games; if it's not engaging, fun won't arrive.It arrived for me and quite a few others. I don't seem to be the only one who enjoys the game, but I don't need popularity to defend its qualities.>no, you actually own those.But I turned them into digital roms. You yourself said that this strips ownership of the games from me.
>>744623462Fucking trolls wasting my goddamn time
>>744623487Nothing in this post argues against Steam's DRM being a net positive
>>744620137>Amusingly enough, you don't need a NSO account to download GKCs,You need serversAnd Nintendo bans consoles. That alone is unforgivable
>>744615075It's completely up to the devs which card they use, if you want to complain, complain to the people that are too cheap to spend the extra manufacturing cost to use larger storage game cards. Microsoft is just as bad, the physical version of the newer Doom is essentially a game key card, it's just a disc that when you put it in brings you to the store to download the game in its entirety.
>>744623503>It arrived for me and quite a few others.Yeah, because you may have shitty taste. Certainly the kind that would click with grindy mine type of games.>>744623503>But I turned them into digital roms.No; you copied them. Copy =/= Tampering.
>console gets bricked if you play used gamesRetard.
>>744623563>Nothing in this post argues against Steam's DRM being a net positiveThe existence of DRM isn't a positive, ever. That's the argument against it
>>744623602Google it faggot
>>744623565>And Nintendo bans consoles. That alone is unforgivablepiratenogs deserve nothingeither pay up or pirate in silence like actual smart men did in the past
>>744615075GKCs suck too, but they are still much better than account bound keys or digital purchases.
>>744623464Your evil nemesis just keeps getting away with it, huh?
>>744623357>Parents don't always buy their kids games as soon as they come out, they might wait until it goes onsale. Imagine your mom/dad got you a game for your birthday or Christmas and you tried to play it but when you put it in it says the nintendo online cant access the licenseYou're not going to find a brand new switch 2 and games at a affordable price 30 years later. Your argument is so fucking retarded
>744623662That shit was debunked. Don't fucking respond to me, cunt.
>>744623662100% of those cases are either redditors that hid the fact they used NIGged carts and end up admitting to it, or people that got sold an used NIGged gameAnd for the latter the ban is always reversed with a 15 minute call to nintendo customer support and providing proof of the owned physical cart on hand, they reverse your ban and hit the reselling NIGger instead.
>>744623587>Yeah, because you may have shitty taste. No need to be rude, my dude.>No; you copied them. And? Now I OWN multiple copies of the same game. If I don't, then all those mods and romhacks are gonna need to explain themselves.
>>744621954did ACbald really call for his boyfriend to delete that lmfao
>>744623823>No need to be rude, my dude.Just being honest, the fact you like it doesn't translate as quality>Now I OWN multiple copies of the same game.No; you own one copy of the game and a bunch of bootlegs.
>>744623770Do you not know how to reply to someone correctly? Lol
>>744623942>Just being honest, the fact you like it doesn't translate as qualityWould be happy to argue its quality, if you'd prefer. Although I feel like you're just shitposting at this point>No; you own one copy of the game and a bunch of bootlegs.Unlike chinese bootlegs you buy off of ebay, all of my copies work.They're all valid, working copies of the game that can be played to completion. So not sure how that doesn't count as ownership.
>744623986Don't deserve a proper [You], retard. Are you new here? Certainly seems that way. Now fuck off.
>>744614313>2028Hopefully we’re stabbing each other over cans of beans in the nuclear ash winter by then.
>>744624019We can let you call that ownership if that's what's bothering you.
>>744621954>jannies still deleting postsWhere the fuck were they when Gavin would make like 30+ blogposts in every thread he was in?
>>744624019>Would be happy to argue its quality, if you'd prefer.Impossible; you're trying to convince others about your subjective tastes. >So not sure how that doesn't count as ownership.Being not locked down nor endorsed by the manufacturer. You can only have their data working by copying it
>>744624129You're trying to argue legalities and semantics, but in practical games the games are mine. You can't do a thing to take them from me, and neither can nintendo.>>744624169>Impossible; you're trying to convince others about your subjective tastes. ....aren't you doing the same thing? >Being not locked down nor endorsed by the manufacturer. So to have more rights, you need to have less rights. uh, okay. Not sure how that works.
>>744620961Your PC also isn't a console
>>744624159Whacking off, though lately they're too busy trying to purge Palworld and Deltarune for... fuck, I dunno, being too popular?
>>744624242Relax buddy, nobody is coming for your games.
>>744624242>....aren't you doing the same thing?I'm not telling you the shitty game I like is any good, so no.
>>744624242>So to have more rights, you need to have less rights. uh, okay. Not sure how that works.It's not about rights. But this >>744624430
>>744624445But why is it shitty?>>744624430>nobody is coming for your games.Wait a sec, isn't the whole argument against PC digital that "gaben can revoke them at any time"?
>>744614313GKC and it won't even be that soon. Nintendo always follows suit.
>>744624648>Wait a sec, isn't the whole argument against PC digital that "gaben can revoke them at any time"?It's a really retarded argument because you can commit actual felonies and still not get your Steam account deleted, as proven by the recent TF2 botting crisis getting handled from top to bottom.
>>744615327Valve offers you complete access and control over your games, it is a thousand times better than what console prisons offer for people who actually care about their games.
>>744624648>Wait a sec, isn't the whole argument against PC digital that "gaben can revoke them at any time"?No my argument against PC digital has always been about lack of ownership, not preservation.
>>744624648>But why is it shitty?Non-engaging, grindy mining gameplay. You're trying to deny this for a while
>>744624746I prefer consoles because they offer media ownership
>>744624741The only reason that hasn't been enforced is because there are options so the consumer can run somewhere else, or was anyway. The lie of digital will begin to crumble at faster pace the moment physical media is erased from gaming
>>744617021Holy fucking delusion, it's no wonder Nintendo constantly gets away with abusing you people. It's beyond obvious Nintendo is slowly killing physical and the only ones who don't seem to see it are the Nintendo dumbasses who proclaim to care about physical.
>>744614313Last time Sony did something retardedly greedy (paid online) Nintendo followed suit the very next gen. And that was when Iwata was still around.
>>744624868Meanwhile Sony is busy announcing the end of Blu-Ray discs in general
>>744624838Why is every argument against digital some schizoid rambling about how things are going to get worse at some undefined point in the future? If Steam goes full retard what's to stop another storefront from taking their place? You're thinking like a console slave.
>>744624868>it's no wonder Nintendo constantly gets away with abusing you peopledon't worry, xbox and ps have years in advantage
>>744624765>No my argument against PC digital has always been about lack of ownership,Possession is 9/10's of the law, and if I have an offline installer of my game, separated from any digital storefront, then it's mine. That is ownership.>>744624772>Non-engaging, grindy mining gameplay. Not sure how you were playing the game. I found it quite engaging and fun. Maybe it's just not for you.
>>744625041>Why is every argument against digital some schizoid rambling about how things are going to get worse at some undefined point in the future?Because it's an inminent reality of modern consumerism
>>744625041>If Steam goes full retard what's to stop another storefront from taking their place?Infrastructure and lack of good-faith in doing so, we lucked the fuck out that Valve hopped on the digital distribution train pretty much the instant broadband internet started becoming a thing.
>>744621747Yes Walmart sell groceries too
>>744624979And just like paid online, Nintendo will follow along, what's your point? Actually, don't answer that, I know what you all say every time it happens, you just bend right over for it to defend Nintendo, just like you've already bent right over to defend GKC the moment Nintendo pushed it just a little bit with Pokopia, instead of growing a pair and standing your ground.
>>744614313How is this a bad thing? The Xbox and PS sections that exist now fucking share the same half-aisle anyways.>>744615326>>744615450I know at least for Costco they dropped Xbox because there wasn't enough demand for the hardware to fill the minimum orders required by Microcock. Honestly not surprised because Game Pass was the only thing creating demand for Xbox to begin with.
>>744625094>Not sure how you were playing the game. I found it quite engaging and fun. Maybe it's just not for you.Like I said, subjective. But you can't see how it's bad because you liked it and biased for that
>>744625132>And just like paid online, Nintendo will follow along,Why?>Actually, don't answer that, I know what you all say every time it happens, you just bend right over for it to defend Nintendo,Well cool if you're already going to tear your shirt off and start shrieking about cultists then I'll take the free internet victory and you can wallow in your own automatic, self-given loss
>>744625167>But you can't see how it's bad because you liked it and biased for thatNo offense, but you're not articulating why you hate it that well.
>>744625094His argument has always been hypocritical semantic sealioning. He's one of the biggest faggots on the board and should be ignored.
>>744625041>If Steam goes full retard what's to stop another storefront from taking their place? Costs to keep such thing online. And, unlike childish naivety thinking like you, what makes you think there will be a replacement to begin with? You're not entitled to anyone to make a bussiness to please you, in fact, you're not entitled to anything at all and Sony is currently reminding consumers of that fact
>does nothing >wins Japs and Chinese might really be onto something here are other Asians like this? I feel like those dark ones who smoke cigarettes and run nail salons do nothing and win too
>>744625118bro, it's called instacart
>>744625221I don't hate it, I'm just telling you that the game you like is shitty.
glad theyre finally releasing some fucking games.my library sitting at pokopia, mkworld (which is kind of ass compared to 8), prime 4, starfox, and splatoon 3 is ROUGH.
>>744625319>I don't hate it>but the game is shitty>>744625241 was right. You're really just going around in circles. If you can't articulate your reasoning, then we're done here.
>>744615075amazing how you niggers will shit up EVERY Nintendo thread with this faggotry, ignoring multiple third parties refuse to use GKC, plus every Nintendo first party game, or Nintendo published game is fully physical..All while sony and microsoft have had a mix of codes in a box or discs that only download the game to your console memory making it the damn same shit for A DECADE NOW, but that barely gets brought up.Incredibly forced outrage, and I say this as a person who will never buy a GKC game.
>>744619587You don't own a steam game anymore than you own a switch 2 game. Even less acrually considering if nintendo's services shut down and you have the game downloaded on your switch 2 you can still play it. Most steam games aren't like that. If you want to actually own a pc game now you have to use GoG or piracy.
>>744624868Your bait didn't work on me
>>744625342>he fell for MP4>not Kirby Air riders or Yoshi mysterious booksasuga
>>744625094>>744624129
>>744625438I was riding the high of dread and prime remastered.I was fucking bamboozled.
>>744625395this will shock you but; calling something shit doesn't relate to hatred. Anon has been telling why for a while now and you refuse to listen
>>744625215>Why?Because it benefits them immensely to do so and you'll allow it to happen with minimal fuss, especially since the other two are already setting to precedent you can conveniently blame instead of standing up for yourself. The fact you get pissy over me saying the obvious to be pro-consumer only makes it even more obvious that's exactly what you'll do because you worship Nintendo as an entity more than you care about the games or what they do to you.
>>744625486>I was fucking bamboozled.No, you didn't; it was a fucking dev hell game. Those rarely work, almost never post 2007, it's all on you
>>744619587>>744620503>>744624746Why do valvecucks insist on lying?Gabe literally went to court to tell the world you in fact do NOT own your digital pc games, just a license to access them.>b..b..buttt...!that's nice sweatie, you are breaking the law by all rights, so claim your Lord GabeN. Cope ober it.You aren't better.
>>744620587>tfw when you don't even own your own eyeballs
>>744625497He was doing a terrible job of it. >>744625428>>744625559Legalese is for cucks. Do you avoid playing mods and romhacks because they violate the copyright of the game dev?
>>744625559Where's the lie? It's all licenses, you retard, Valve is just transparent about it. Do you need Nintendo's EULA slapped across your face again?
>>744625627>He was doing a terrible job of it.Wrong, you just thought that yourself. All me btw
>>744616363sorry you got aids from sucking 10million og dicks eric.
>>744625656EULAs aren't what determine ownership.
>>744616667>>snoyiggers have literally been freaking out on sony over the cancelation of discsThe fuck are you on about nigger?They did no such thingThey went and bought fucking CoD releases of all things en mass and are eagerly looking forward to 100 buckiroos for a digital only gta6....which is a worse offer and experience than its xbox version.Snoyggers aren't even fucking trying.
>>744625428>Even less acrually considering if nintendo's services shut down and you have the game downloaded on your switch 2 you can still play itYou can literally do that with steam. You can perpetually play offline.
>>744625627>b-but thats legal speakHey faggot heres a hypothetical for you regarding game ownershipYou download a steam game on your on your computerYou also downloaded a switch 2 game on your switch 2Both services then shut downWhich game can you still play?
>>744620587Except you don't even own the game, you own a plastic key that let's you access the game only when you own a specific blackbox. It's a service. No modification, no copying, no way to preserve without a PC and some autists to figure it out.
>>744625729Oh, then tell Nintendo that and I guess we all factually own all our PC games then.
>>744625856>>744624129
>>744620723Why are you against the consumer possessing the option to do so if they so wish?I thought you were pro-consumer?
>>744625889Alright, right after you send your arguments to Nintendo and post their response.
>>744625665Still waiting on that explanation, btw.>>744625792>you download a steam game on your computer>you download a switch 2 game on your switch 2>which game can you still playWell, I can still play my steam game for about 100 years thanks to making backups. Goldberg/steamless ensure that I don't need the service to keep playing it, assuming I didn't just download a GOG installer, also assuming the game even had steamworks DRM in the first place. Valve's work on linux and arch and proton ensure that windows isn't even necessary. I can also just pirate any copy of windows I want, and modify them for best compatibility. My switch 2 cart dies due to low quality, like 3DS cartridges, and Nintendo randomly decides that I need to rebuy it again for the switch 3 or switch 4. If I'm a good goy, they'll let me play it after paying 30 dollars for upgrades that should've been free. Also, I'm not allowed to play the game on non-nintendo hardware.Hmmmm......
>>744625793>you own a plastic key that let's you access the game only when you own a specific blackbox.>this is an issueOMG HOW DARES MY CASSETTE NOT BEING ABLE TO BE PLAYED ON MY CD PLAYER?!
>>744625984>Still waiting on that explanation, btw.You've told at least 3 times. You're just deflecting and playing passive-agressive
>>744621818>>744621960The Switch/Switch 2/PS5 stock at the same store is also mostly normie-coded shit, but there's a few niche titles in there. And it's certainly not as normie as the Xbox stock.
>>744615075>Reddit +2
>>744625963 In your hypotheticals, the consumer has to give up the ability to make backups of their games, and mod them, and tinker with the files in any way they deem fit. For some reason that can't co-exist with reselling games, so I pick the former option.
>>744621527A post so beyond disingenuous and lacking good faith it could only be made by acfag/sealiontrannt/doug.Do kill yourself faggot.
>>744625990>rip contents of the cassette>can now play it on a CD playerwhy do corporations hate this?>>744626042So you don't have an explanation. Gotcha.
>>744625792Both of them, you idiot. Why do you fags act like steam doesn't let you play offline indefinitely? Do you really just not know despite being told constantly and it being easy to test, or are you just that disingenuous?
>>744625981That won't be necessary because they also know EULAs aren't what determine ownership. You're the only one here that doesn't know that.
>>744625984>backupOnly certain games on steam are drm free. For most games if you try that you will get an error saying it is looking for steam or just not load up at all.
>>744626118It's just a little telling that the best selling point of nintendo games is "you can get rid of them afterward". Kinda like saying that a book's best selling point is that it makes excellent toilet paper.
>>744626186>So you don't have an explanation. Gotcha.Whatever makes you feel better, poorman. I'm not telling you to stop playing that slog
>>744625041>If Steam goes full retard what's to stop another storefront from taking their place?Because every company that has tried so far has been far worse and shittier than valve?What are you stupid?
>>744626204You won't do it because you know exactly what they'll say, the same exact things in their EULA that they tell you already. That the game is a revocable license not sold to you and all you own is plastic. You know that, you just don't actually care and you have nothing better to do than project and shitpost endlessly over it.
>>744626186>rip contents of the cassette>can now play it on a CD player>why do corporations hate this?Stop being a lying faggot. We always could do that and companies didn't care, it was internet the one that fucked up everything and that faggot Lars
>>744626267>Only certain games on steam are drm free. That's just because you gotta research them. All my games are DRM free. For example, Baba is You, Crosscode, Hollow Knight, Pizza Tower, they all work indefinitely without steam. Infact I'm playing FTL right now, which hasn't been logged into Steam for 3 years. The ones that have the extremely basic steamworks check can be defeated with a single notepad file in the install folder.
>>744625424>I'm wearing my "I don't believe in slippery slopew" hat!!!
Guess I’ll only be buying old games at that point since I don’t really care about Nintendo
>>744626067>For some reason that can't co-exist with reselling games, so I pick the former option.Blame valvecucks for this, not my problem.PC used to have physical discs that you could resell. You could still mod the game too.Just look at OG Doom, Doom2, Quake, etc. All had physical discs bbut also had a very early modding scene.Sorry that you valvcucks gave up your consume right to physical games.Not my problem.
>>744626356>Stop being a lying faggot. We always could do that and companies didn't careSweet summer child, if only you knew how bad things used to be.
>>744626534>PC used to have physical discs that you could resell. You could still mod the game too.And they were a nightmare, infinitely worse than what we have now. Having to deal with 3-4 installation disks, praying your CD key wasn't already used and thus rendering your disk worthless, needing to search out cryptic hints hidden in the manual (if your game came without the manual, sucks for you) and let's not get into securom and starforce.It was a hassle, and I'm glad it's gone.
>>744626279If we apply your dumb logic, then you must hate your game library because all you talk about is wanting to mod them
>>744626626>lying and coping because you flushed your consumer rights down the drain willinglySad.
>>744626354I can't help you with that. Sorry.
>>744626637I mod a game because I want to replay it over and over, adding new experiences. You sell it because you don't like the game. We are not the same.
>fags still trying to pretend physical means shit when games get constant updates, new content, dlc, that's all digital and the overwhelming majority have already chosen digitalIt's so obvious physical is dead in the water, but the poor people who want to sell off these games for a fraction of what they paid, or see plastic garbage on their shelf won't stop crying about it. If they actually cared about real ownership and these games, they'd be on pc, they wouldn't be consolecucks that don't even own the console itself anymore. It's all desperate handwaving in defense of their masters.
>pc vegan still burnt no one accepts his autistic levels of "ownership"
>>744626781If it's so ovious, then why are they wasting million upons millions of dollars to pretend otherwise?
>>744614313And all of these will be game key cards, fuck off Tendie
>>744626771>You sell it because you don't like the game.People need money more than they need games, that doesn't mean they hate it. Quit being a retard
what stops them from giving us cartridges that can be updated with dlc, patches, etc?this being optional of course to avoid censorship and the like
>>744615075This is a bit overblown.Every first party Switch 2 game is a full game on the cartridge and only certain third party games are download code cards. Like yeah it sucks that it is happening at all but they could do what Sony is doing.
>>744627061If you're in a position where you need to sell off a game you bought on sale for 2.99, then you probably shouldn't be buying video games in the first place.
>>744627093Rewriteable NAND cartridges would be insipidly easy to dump
>>744626665NTA, but it's obvious you weren't even alive back then and just spew whatever sounds right in your head.
>>744626534>installing 5 discs that can scratch, with limited activations, securom and starforce>is easier than changing a dll or text fileYeah, they made it easier to mod games more than ever by taking them away from console ass rape levels of drm. CS, DOTA, and PUBG are the biggest mods turned games in history.
>>744614313NAND flash memory isn't getting any cheaper and Nintendo is already charging a $10 premium for physical games. The writing is on the walls.
>>744627165I know you're too retarded to understand this but physical games have more value than $2.99
>>744626534PC still has physical, nothing is stopping anyone from still doing physical on PC. People just don't buy it because the vast majority of them don't care and it's inconvenient. Why pay more and wait for physical when you can immediately get the game for way cheaper unless you just want female repellent junk on a shelf or to cope that you'll actually spend less once you've sold it off, even though digital is often pennies on the dollar or you could've just gotten it for free if you're that poor.
>>744626665"Flushed your consumer rights down the toilet" from somebody that thinks SecuROM was something we need to retvrn to? Are you fucking kidding me anon
>>744627165Thanks but for the concern but I'll stick with my ownership rights.
>>744627401>Why pay more and wait for physicalThe reason I pay more for my physical games is ownership.
>>744627376Why? Because of plastic that you can't even rewrite?
>>744627527why would you overwrite a game you bought
>>744627447I'd rather own my freedoms than own plastic that disrupts my freedoms.
>>744626896Because it fools stupid people and they avoid the backlash, aka boiling the frogs. People didn't even know Microsoft is killing physical too because Sony has already taken that blow and the edge off.
>>744627628To improve the game you bought, and replay it? Geez, have you ever even heard of QOL mods?
>>744616363Yes, Nintendo is better than SnoyThank you for your concession
>>744627767>mods>permanently overwriting the base gamewhat an interesting hypothesis
>>744627510Ownership over plastic, not games. Whatever helps you cope.
>>744627767Then you hate the game, right? you require modding to make the game the way you want it to be
>>744626534wtf are you talking? modding literally has never been easier on PC. I could just click a button to install a mod in 1 second on skyrim, terraria, cyberpunk. Hell, we have full-blown mod conversions that change the entire game. You can't do any of that shit on console retard, especially not nintendo.
i hope Nintendo has the decency to add a last minute performance path to XC2 before the physical release ships out because performance could be so much better man, they will eventually fit it alongside XC1 but that one didn't have time to cook on the physical oven
>>744627659Good to know.
>>744627818I can't help you with that. Sorry.
>>744627527I'm not going to explain to you why things cost more than you think. You should research it yourself considering you're unemployed and have nothing better to do with your life
>>744627805That's why you make a backup. Infact, it's good to keep multiple backups. Some mods make a copy, some overrwrite the base game. Gotta be careful. I've got like 50 Mario 64 copies for this very reason.>>744627848I like the base game enough to want more, via mods. This isn't the same as playing a Bethesda title, which requires mods just to start.
>>744628004We're all familiar with brand recognition artificially keeping prices high. Thankfully competition proves that lower prices can still give primo quality.
>>744628153>Thankfully competition proves that lower prices can still give primo quality.Let me guess you're talking about indieslop
>>744628519>indieslop is bad!>why?>because it doesn't have realistic Call of Duty graphics!
>still pushing the fake outrage over key cards and the """""inevitable"""""" shutdown of download servers despite that has yet to fucking happen in Nintendo's case onceI really like how this is entirely ignoring 90% of modern games at the very least have patches and updates of some kind after release, nevermind DLCs, and this was already pretty common on older console systems like the Switch 1 or Playstation Vita.I already have a good thirty Switch2 games and none of them remained in their original firmware version because of bugs that had to be fixed or content that were added afterwards.If you want to keep a console game "forever" (until the day you die) you make a digital backup after cracking open the console system itself, obsessing over physicals as an archived unit is utterly retarded.
>>744628601kek I fucking knew it
>>744628738Yes, I like video games instead of gun and ball slop and walking sims. How strange?
im waiting for more physical kino
>>744624746Valve provides Digital licenses
>>744621429But I can't resell the games from GoG. I have no rights under the first sale doctrine. The only thing GoG offers is the game without any DRM AIDS, and I can just get that off any torrent site.
>>744628612>download servers shut down>has yet to happenSomeone hasn't heard of the 3ds or wiiu
>>744628612People need to shit on nintendo somehow because they got none. I love seeing seeing those doomposts about how 1st party companies are all evil, listing things like sony killing physical games, microsoft having mass layoffs then the nintendo part is always some fake bullshit like "pushing for full digital" and nintendo "remotely bricking" people's consoles for no reason
>>744629049So in other words, you can play the game for free and donate money to the dev if you so feel like it.>>744629084IIRC you can still download what you bought from the stores, but they're encrypted in heavy DRM that disallows playing them on the Switch and Switch 2.
>>744629037And? Buying video games are literally all digital licenses unless you're buying the copyright/ip, some people are just fooled by plastic storage/cases while others aren't.
>>744629084Apparently you haven't because the 3ds and wii u download servers are still up.
>>744615075>digital games except you can freely sell/trade/lend themI'm out of the loop, why is this bad?
>>744629084You can still buy 3ds and wiiu games physicially and they would work on your console. The only games that are permanently lost due to a server shutdown (aside from piracy) are a couple of shitty dsiware games and the snes satelite games.
>>744629084It hasn't happened yet, but Nintendo does say it WILL happen. It's why any self-respecting person who enjoys and cares about this hobby is at the very least also on PC and jailbreaks their consoles.
>>744629175They're shackled by DRM. That's why it's bad. If you don't like the game and you want to sell it, then you shouldn't have bought it in the first place. I don't know why people buy games that they hate.>>744629109I just hate all companies for this reason. Stop shoving DRM in our faces and stop overcharging for what's essentially slavery.
yep as expected there's a few japan-only physical games being released it seems
>>744629260I'm out of the loop. What DRM do they have that regular cartridges don't?
>>744629175Because we still have retards believing nintendo will shut down the eshop download server in 5-6 years
>>744623635It's bad because it just is!!!
>>744629260>They're shackled by DRM. That's why it's bad.That's it? Lol.
>>744629363The game you download refuses to work without the cartridge, for no reason whatsoever. It's an unneccessary physical burden that a digital download shouldn't have.Imagine if I needed to insert a USB drive into my computer, just to play a game I bought off of GOG. It's the worst of both worlds.
>>744629084Your post is the proof that you're another Internet idiot who just parrots things you've seen on the Internet without double-checking or even understand the meaning of words. 3DS and WiiU had their storefronts 'shut down' as in no longer allowing to buy stuff, people can still redownload what they've purchased in the past.And again, I do like nobody ever address the elephant in the room about the untold number of modern games having firmware updates (regardless you get the game in physical or digitally) but doom about Nintendo's download servers solely because of the key cards. Lies of P is fully physical on Switch 2 for instance but you'd still have to download the day-1 patch to get the extra "Balanced" graphic option alongside of some fixes. Really funny how this virtue-signaling is so autistic and pointless.
>>744629260Why do you care about any of this? I thought you PC niggers own your games
>>744629449So the only downside of ownership is holding the thing you own? Lol
>>744618678Even women's chromosomes are fucked up
>>744629475I think he's simply upset that consoles, especially the Switch, are still popular and that nobody outside of the internet remotely care about the "master race" meme he's obsessing for years
>>744629475>>744629583I just hate seeing hypocrisy from the console side of things. Like when we all used to hate paid online, but then sony did it and the snoys worshipped it. Then Nintendo did it, and the tendies worshipped it too. Why wouldn't this upset someone who cares about having standards and consistency?>>744629547That and it being locked down and not letting the consumer tinker with it or make backups.
>>744614313Love my physical collection
>>744629260>They're shackled by DRMWhat does this have to do with them being digital games you can actually sell? How does this make them worse than digital games?
>>744629613>Like when we all used to hate paid onlinewho is "we" lol?I'm not particularly fond of the subscription idea but I also don't care that much either.You sound mentally ill and should take a break from the Internet
>>744629613That's almost nothing. Who is concerned about this?
>>744614313I don't go to my local stores, why would I travel for mass produced garbage when I can order mass produced garbage online? which I also don't do, because why?
>>744629363Consoles themselves are by their very nature DRM. They are locked down as hard as possible.
>>744629613>someone who cares about having standards and consistency?Hmmm, this doesn't describe you at all.
>>744629726That's an answer to a question he didn't ask.
>>744629475I moved to PC because consoles kept disappointing me. I don't want them to be shit.
>>744625424And what about Pokopia, a GKC? You need to hire some movers, to help shift the goalpost?
>>744629687A digital game you backup and mod is infinitely worth more than a piece of plastic you can sell.>>744629693>>744629732>you don't have standards>we, the people who love paying for online for no discernible reason, have standards
>>744625116>we lucked the fuck out that Valvelol
>>744629768It's fundamentally related.They all have DRM because that's essentially what consoles are. Asking what differentiates any part of them from another is splitting hairs.
>>744629904The fact you have to lie to try and attack them only proves it.
>>744629820My main standard is playing Japanese games in moonrunes, not making an obsession over trivial and unimportant shit like DRM or mods because you have nothing to play
>>744629904Thank goodness you're a robot that lets your image macro do all your thinking for you, I was worried you're a real person who thinks "Valve is the least worst option" means that it should be somebody else in charge of PC digital-distribution.
>>744629820That's is correct, you don't have standards.
>>744614313>thinking shitendo won't be out of business after gta6 dropped
>>744629982>my main standard is playing japanese games in moonrunesAnd PC lets you do that, without needing corporate permission.>>744630043I've seen your idea of standards. Not very impressed. You pay for online, and what do you get? P2P and no dedicated servers?
>>744629613You type like a fucking white liberal woman. Whatever happened to feeling all superior because you can play terraria with mods on your shitty PC?
>>744630103We can both not have standards. That's fine with me.
>>744629904All bullshit, and all bought video games are digital licenses and I always find the lootbox attack against them funny. Free mere cosmetic drops in free games that you can sell to buy more games, oh nooo, how could gayben ever do this to meeee.
>>744614969i doubt it they have a woman indian ceo its so over
>>744630115He's actually more like this guy from modern family
>>744630115Meds.
>>744630115>Whatever happened to feeling all superior because you can play terraria with mods on your shitty PC?I'm wondering why "ownership" with physical has all of these silly and unnecessary restrictions. That's the big mystery I'm trying to get to the bottom of.If you own your physical games, and I don't own my digital licenses, then you should have all of my freedoms and then some. Why does physical demand tradeoffs?
>>744630267>he says as he deepthroats nintendo and circlejerks his fellow tendie
>>744630308>why are these two different things different, explain thisLol
>>744630361Whatever you say, fag
>>744630308Because all they own is the plastic, they know that, but they have to perform endless mental gymnastics in service of their master over sunk cost and an abusive parasocial relationship with a corporation.
>>744630443Beats owning nothing
>>744614313Switch 2 library is worse than the Wii U'sConsole gaming is dead
>>744630392>>744630494But why do they have to be different? If Nintendo really wanted to be pro-consumer, then imagine this:>GKC, but downloads do NOT require you to keep the cart in the system>you can give the cart to a hundred people, and all of them can play the game at the same time, without needing family share>license verification isn't constantly enforcedIt would essentially be a GOG installer that can be used infinitely. Once you download an installer, it no longer needs ID verification. If someone dropped a GOG installer into this thread, every single person could download it and play it.
>>744630308No matter how much you keep changing the definition of ownership. Physical games IS ownership. Also, nice samefagging >>744630443 loser
>>744630584Your definition is based on cuckoldry from corporations. Sorry.>nice samefagginglol
>>744630575>If Nintendo really wanted to be pro-consumer, then imagine this [literal piracy]How dare these evil corporations try to make money!
>>74463010390% of the jp pc ports don't even have jp text dude, it's an extremely common problem even japanese people cry aboutfor me that means it's pretty much buying a switch or not playing anything at all
>>744630575>But why do they have to be different?Are you serious?
>>744614969Xbox's presence in department stores is already dead.
>>744630584Ownership of plastic, not the game, which you have no control over, can't even access the files, Nintendo locks you out as hard as they possibly can.
>>744630575You're arguing against massive cognitive dissonance. They totally own the game, but also the corporation has to lock them out from the game they totally own because emulation and being able to do what you want with the game they totally own is evil, please think of the poor nintendo.
>>744630837The thing is no matter what language you use to describe it doesn't change anything.
>>744630565Even if that were true the WiiU's library was not the reason it failed. The WiiU had actually had a decent library but just like the Switch 2 it didn't do enough to set itself apart and just seemed like more of the same which people have already been accustomed to. The question that kept on being asked back then was "why would I buy a WiiU when I have a Wii?" much like how people say the same for the switch and switch 2 today.
>>744630962It's funny though. Like they can't even justify it. it's just "BECAUSE THAT'S HOW IT ALWAYS WAS".>>744630821>>744630703Indies have no problem making money when it comes to selling PC titles. IIRC I don't recall Pizza tower and Hollow Knight needing denuvo just to keep the mean ol pirates away.>b-but those have physical versionsAnd yet the existence of DRM-free digital versions has not impacted them. Curious!
>>744631048It's very simple language that I know you understand no matter how hard you try not to.
>>744631116You replied to me but nothing your post said had anything to do with my post.
>>744614313I go to Walmart once a month or so. There are fewer Xbox games every time. I think one store had a shelf with six games and maybe a handful scattered around.Surprisingly they had a dozen controllers.
>>744631173I didn't say it was difficult to understand. Kinda wasted your reply.
>>744631109I don't care about success or failure.I care about having games that appeal to me, an actual gamer.
>>744629798Is TPCi Nintendo?
>>744631195NOT having drm isn't going to kill Nintendo. I'm asking why they can't have all of the benefits of digital DRM free games. Is the concept of a physical game just at odds with that?
>>7446297981 game vs literally every other game Nintendo has published on the Switch 2
>Physical games is not ownership because you can't copy or modify the data in the cart>says the only retard that thinks like thisGod I love it here
>>744631262What type of games do you like?
>>744631330You did it again
>>744631387>>744631428So what exactly is your argument here?
>>744631262The Wii U had literally no games for months after launch so fucking lol.Meanwhile the Switch 2 has one game per month.
>>744631528You derailed at this post >>744630821
>>744621358Thanks to GKCs and Square and Capcom being scumbags, I've been buying lower budget games that I would never have heard of otherwise.AAA industry really is hellbent on committing suicide.
>>744631406Games developed by Japanese people that aren't live service, sports shovelware, or mahjong.
>>744631258Perhaps, but at least I'm not wasting my life uselessly arguing about it here every day for hours upon hours on end, like you.
>>744631569Well, why do they have to be different? Actually give an answer.
>>744631387>"physical" games is no ownership because said "physical" game is a piece of plastic with incomplete data tethered to an online server if you want to fully install the gameftfy
>>744631387Physical video games is an oxymoron, you're fooled by plastic. You don't own the game because you're explicitly sold a revocable license to a game that you are locked out from with a ton of stipulations.
>>744631605Are you asking me why the physical media format and the digital media format have to be different things?
>Sleep when this thread was like 30 posts, mostly baldy trying to gaslight people about carts not being actual owneship, somehow.>Wake up.>The thread is approaching bump limit, and it's still mostly baldy trying to gaslight people about carts not being actual owneship, somehow.Bros should I play some castlevania or bomberman today? Also can't believe konami really just added panic bomber as a free update to the bomber collection instead of selling it as DLC or as a standalone port.The portability of the switch is great btw.
>>744631678>>744631048
>>744631762Yes, I am. My physical cartridge of Super Mario 64 is not at odds with my digital rom of Super Mario 64. Both are allowed to exist, and Nintendo still gets their money for my copy. However, this was only possible by circumventing the copy protection and latent DRM on the hardware, but now that I have done that crucial step, I now reap the benefits of both physical and digital. So let me ask again: why can't Nintendo, or Sony, or Microsoft, allow their games to exist without DRM and copy protection?
>>744631830Castelvania 1
>>744623580>It's completely up to the devs which card they use, if you want to complain, complain to the people that are too cheap to spend the extra manufacturing cost to use larger storage game cardsNintendo fucking make this shit.
The only physical that matters is drm free physical on pc as it has zero downsides, consolecucks need to learn their place and stay in their shitpit instead of trying to get uppity over things they clearly don't understand and are coping over. If people want to make an argument over pc rarely having drm free physical (because it's inconvenient, more expensive, and nobody cares about physical anymore even on console besides scalpers and autismos), they can do that, but arguing in favor of corpo controlled console physical is retarded and for poor people deluding themselves.
>>744631859Are you serious?
>>744631830>purposely made a shitpost thread, and is now angry that he keeps being BTFO whenever he defends DRM laden plasticSorry your console war thread got derailed. You don't care about video games at all, so stop pretending that you do, liar.
>>744631835I;m using Nintendo's language, I'm sorry you can't understand that.
>>744631932What about the question is confusing you?
>>744631830Castlevania. I'm only here ITT because it's funny how much he pulls shit out of his ass, at this point he's just repeating the same arguments over and over like a broken bot
>>744631830The only true form of ownership is having an open source PC version of the software. Anything else is cope.
>>744614313Do tendies believe that Nintendo doesn't want to drop physical?Do they not understand that 1 digital sale makes as much money as 2 physical ones?
>>744631986Can you at least try to not samefag your own posts?
>>744631830i like how the first thing you do when you wake up is refresh your faggy muttslave consoomer thread on 4chan while accusing your bogeyman of btfoing you lol. sad life
>>744614313Ironically, the Switch 2 is the only console where I've gone full digital. The short lifespan of the game cards make it pointless to collect them.
>>744632053I'm not samefagging, cupcake. It must be shocking for you that so many people think you're retarded
>>744631870>>744631986Grim, I still can't beat death without rewindslop.>>744632105I spend like an hour per day total in this website these days, it's all schizos now.Maybe 2-3 on thursdays and fridays.
>>744631830>he's seething at you with multiple postdamn, you really hit a nerve
>>744632160>so many people think that you're retardedThese same people think that it's wrong for games to not have DRM in them, because le evil pirates could play them. "Ownership doesn't count unless your game has locked down restrictions". That's funny.>>744632180>>744632231You are not even trying to hide your samefagging now.
>>744631983Nothing. I'm wondering how that's somehow so confusing for you that you need me to teach you the answer.
>>744632231>get btfo'd>s-s-s-samefag!lol
>>744614313Sony said they will still sell gay empty boxes with digital codes inside.
>>744632310That would make no sense The point is to save money on not paying retailers and for production At best it'll be decoy shit they don't expect to sell
>>744623464>Dunno, the wii u online died pretty earlySo? You can still download wiiu games you purchased, so gkcs would still work fine on it (if it had them) to this day. Same with the wii
>>744632180I lucked out and got a holy water drop right before and spammed it. Only beat it once. Hard as fuck
>>744632287I just explained how it's possible on PC. My physical games have been ripped and turned into ISOs and roms. Now I get the benefit of physical and digital. Why is this not a thing on Switch 2? And why does Nintendo constantly attack people and their attempts to bypass their DRM and copy protection? If this doesn't benefit the customer, then it shouldn't exist.
Did he recently started using this cope after sony's announcement or has he been doing it for years? I've never seen this level of retardation
>>744632310>disc are literally pennies to make>but instead still need to ship a plastic case, and a code in the boxhow does this make sense
>>744632310They're all going to be doing that. They want to kill the secondhand market and have complete control, but they also still want that physical presence for advertising.
>>744632393>>744632404i don't know why you guys hate video games so much. Why do you hate the PC platform so much?
>>744632404He used to say Sony was the only way to own true physical media, then needed to switch up to this new cope
>>744632445We weren't talking to you
>>744632469>He used to say Sony was the only way to own true physical media,I dont remember saying this. Got a source?
>>744632397>My physical games have been ripped and turned into ISOs and roms. Now I get the benefit of physical and digital.Only if you had ownership rights which you do not.
>>744632158I wouldn't trust the ufs to survive for that long either considering how they cheaped out on every single part on this thing
>>744632445Just because people think you're an idiot doesn't mean they hate video games or PC.
>>744632510>accidentally admits to being ACbaldlol
>>744632469He literally owns a physical media collection of armored core games too.
>>744632536Guess console users also have zero ownership rights then.
>>744632536Only if you were able to define ownership in terms that don't include worshipping Nintendo But you can't
I will still be a virgin in 2028
>>744632582You guessed wrong
>>744632637If his physical doesn't count, consoles sure as fuck don't either.
>>744632550You keep lying about PC gaming, saying that you don't own your PC games. Hate me if you will, but don't be a liar who hates the whole PC platform.>>744632551>admits to lyingConcession accepted. When you can find this supposed claim that I made here>>744632469 then go right ahead and post it.
>>744632584It's already defined and exists in a manner that doesn't trigger your mental illness towards Nintendo. All you have to do is your due diligence and research it.
>>744614313Consoles are always going to want a physical presence for maximum exposure, they'll just all become gay codes in a box.
>>744632592You heard it here folks. Terraria schizo is a virgin
>consolefags gets btfo>xhe starts samefagging and schizoposting about some imaginary person lmao every time, especially bad with nintendo adults
>>744632678Can't help you with that, sorry.
>>744632682>saying that you don't own your PC gamesYou objectively do not, you can thank valve for killing physical media on PC by the way.
>>744632682>You keep lying about PC gaming, saying that you don't own your PC gamesHe would be telling the truth if he said you don't own PC games.
>>744632551>there's no ACfag>but I'm also himlol he keeps doing it
>>744632737>>744632769Well, my backup drives full of 1000+ DRM-free offline-ready games disagree with you. Oh wait, according to you, wanting to keep games that I enjoy makes me a "hoarder".
>>744632792>Well, my backup drivesThat's preservation, not ownership.
>>744632715But you can't define it without worshipping NintendoThere's a reason that you care about it being officially licensedAnd it's because you're a devoted cultist that wants merch, not games
>>744632735No need to apologize over and over for your mental deficiencies anon, you were born that way, it's not your fault.
>>744632823Your opinion of me is noted.
>>744632830Another wasted reply. Another dead chain.
>>744632859Your cultist attitude is notedYou love Nintendo controlling you, hence why you think it's ownership Too bad they don't love you back huh?
>>744632737I objectively have more ownership over my PC and PC games, while you objectively have more ownership over plastic carts.
>>744631884Then you have this retardm
>>744632906Gabe doesn't love you either yet you keep worshipping valve for free
>>744632821Nah, it's ownership. You cannot take it away, and neither can the devs and companies that made them. They're not live service titles that require online verification.Meanwhile your "games" require locked down blackboxes just to play them. Tell me, why do your 3ds purchases require a 3ds? why can't you enjoy them on the Switch? My steam games bought back on my old 2014 gamer laptop work on my modern PC tower. Is backwards compatibility a lost technology? Did Nintendo and sony forget how to do that?
>>744632906Can't help you with that one either.
>>744632943Preservation is the act of permanence, not ownership. Hope this helps
>>744633030what a sad existence
>>744632943>Is backwards compatibility a lost technology? Did Nintendo and sony forget how to do that?They used to argue it wasn't Nintendo's fault, it's because it was impossible due to different architectures, then Valve started coming out with translation layers showing it was in fact possible, so now all they can do is screech and plug their ears as they spew the same circular garbage over and over and over again.
>>744632942Steam lets you play 20 year old games on new hardware, advances Linux which empowers pc users and actively loosens valve's grip over their users and is working on arm compatibility that will let me play games on everything Nintendo sells you 20 year roms with less emulator functionality than android 10 years ago, doesn't let you play 20 year old cartridges and is actively tightening their DRM
>>744633008>accidentally admits that his physical games aren't even permanent ownership, and at best are temporaryoof. That's gonna leave a mark. >>744633030>>744633058I'm enjoying some FTL right now. Got a lot of ships to unlock. But I'm using evil mods that are unapproved by the copyright holder. So you might want to look away.
>>744633030 Nintendo adults be like "Eric", then they be like "Acfag", then they be like "paulinschizo from pisscord" just to defend their cult
>>744633081>20 year old gamesoh my god, every fucking time kek
>>744633030What's funny is all he's doing is making more and more people realize the anti-nintendo misinfo and literal fearmongering over the last year, he's not convincing anyone that nintendo is ebil akshually anymore.
>>744633101I'll survive.
>>744633030>deletedjannies didn't like that you made fun of their pedo friends again
>>744633101nigga we know your dogshit PC can at best run sloppa tower and terraria, you don't have to remind us
>>744633030Instantly eating your own the moment they make you look a little too bad, I see. If you had any self-awareness you'd realize all you fanboys are exactly the same as the one you immediately threw under the bus to try and distance yourself from the moment he became too much of an embarrassment.
>>744633121>It doesn't count LolNintendo has a horrible and actively nosediving track record unlike valveStop worshipping
>>744633078Game compatibility has come a long way, hasn't it? It's insane thinking about the progress of emulation. PS2 and N64 used to be unplayable. Man, nothing a little elbow grease couldn't fix.>>744633173Good games don't need HD realistic graphics. Even something that looks like an NES game can still be incredibly fun. I hope you can see this.
>>744633207>Stop worshippingSays the nigga praising valve in that same post
>>744633030>all the seething samefag replies lmao
>>744633271Yes, they deserve praise for actively improving things unlike Nintendo You know that you can sandbox steam on Linux? Meaning it can never see outside of what you want it to seeDoes Nintendo let you exert that level of power? Oh wait, they have the right to brick your toy wholesale
>>744633271Valve has been spending their money on helping improve arch, proton, linux, and alternative operating systems and devices that let you load your own game libraries. One day I pray that we'll be free of the Windows/apple duopoly. As long as he keeps working on improving the PC platform, he can buy as many mega yachts as he wants.
>>744633341>Dicksucking valve postDidn't you call nintendo fans cultists not too long ago?
>>744633213my PC can run factorio's endgame, can your PC?
>>744633341Still buying physical
In case anyone is wondering why he's pissy all the way until monday, yet another JP game got butchered with censorship to pass a steam release.The game is uncensored on the switch by the way.
>>744633341>>744633379>They're doing everything except making gamesJust like sony and microsoft. Great
>>744633389They deserve praise for letting anyone use their advancements and they actively relinquish control when doing soConversely, Nintendo deserves scorn for going the opposite way and being possessive and locking things down Hope this helps
>>744633379>>744633341>>744633509Why are gabentrannies such a cult?
>>744633395Recommended specs say that you need a GTX 1050 TI, and I have a budget GTX 1650, which is comparable. I'd say yes.i know, it's not fancy, and "real PC gamers" will consider my computer to be a potato, but I don't require much in a game, just that it be fun. When I say that I don't care about high end graphics, you know damn well that I mean it.
>>744633496Nintendo could use a break from making gamesTheir output is horseshit
>>744633548Objectively wrong, eric
>>744633509I'm not reading your dicksucking post, but I hope that gabe knows how much you're doing all of this for free
>>744633469>visual novelWhatever happened to not liking movieshit?
>>744633539Why can't you face the reality that Nintendo is actively making things worse?Consoles shouldn't exist, they enable horrible attitudes, as seen with nintendo
>>744633469steaming censoring yet another game, not surprised their DEI initiative is just getting worse and worse
>>744633602>gameBut he linked a visual novel. Those aren't games.
>>744633568Yeah I know you tendies struggle when there are more than 10 words on the screen
>>744633601But enough about the anti physical steam, gabencultist. The bankruptcy of valve would literally kill every bad thing in gaming
>now he's actively defending censorshipthere's never a rock bottom is there
>>744633661Visual novels are not games. Might I recommend choosing a better hill to die on?
>>744633652The bankruptcy of valve would result in Microsoft having more money, buying Nintendo and raping everyone You're retarded
>>744633652I wished valve died earlier so we didn't have to deal with loot boxes
>>744633661Well, steam is a cult
>>744633652Based
>>744633637Why should anyone read a post that starts with "ACKSHUALLY they deserve praise".
>>744633710>>744633713The steam cultist is having a meltdown. Without steam, windows would be dead
>>744633724Cults don't let you leaveLike Nintendo I can install any storefront even on valve's hardware You can't even jailbreak your tendie toy yet
>>744633724and he's their most favorite dick suckerWHO DOES IT FOR FREE
>>744633769Just how retarded are you Come on, tell me what would replace windows
>>744633802>>744633769>>744633724It's awfully strange that you accuse me of being a steam cultist, when I actively go out of my way to talk about how good piracy is, and how it's preferable for everyone to crack DRM, and even recommend GOG and buying games from individual sites for the most freedom.Like, how does Valve benefit from me cracking their DRM and playing games without license verification?
>>744633770>>744633825>>744633858Steam is a cult. You pretend you might, but worship gaben so much we both know you would try to doxx and actually irl murder anybody who does
Valve>killing game ownership by introducing the digital format>introduced loot box and microtransaction>some of the games on steam are broken and you have to fix it yourself>pushing for censorship>allows denuvo shit to happenbut sure, nintendo are the ones making things worse for everyone, right?
>>744633862>I am too stupid to answer your question so I'll call you a cultist
>>744633882>introduced loot box and microtransactionthis is the worse one, they fucking ruined gaming
>>744633910Meant for >>744632906
>>744633858>literally makes multiple posts about dickriding gabe>gets called a cultist>"WAIT I PIRATE THEIR GAMES SOMETIMES!"Lol lmao
>>744626437>I'm donning my "Full-decade proud shit eater" bib!!!
Love this thread
does he usually seethe this hard on a monday?
>>744633882>>744633957>some of the games on steam are broken and you have to fix it yourself>lets you refund it without question if you don't like it within the first 14 days>lets you mod it in the first place, unlike other storefrontsRemind me again, does sony or Nintendo allow similar refund systems? IIRC they even force you to waive your rights when buying eshop and PSN purchases. And nobody has ever fought them over it.While we're on the subject, can you guys even play the original games that supposedy don't work? Like Deus Ex is my favorite example. Can you guys play GOTY edition on Switch 2 or Ps5? or are you restricted to the awful demaster?
>>744633965same, it's funny seeing the resident tendie schizo meltdown and samefag all of his posts on multiple devices
>>744633882>killing game ownership by introducing the digital format>Game ownership is when DRM>introduced loot box and microtransactionKorean games did it first >>some of the games on steam are broken and you have to fix it yourselfcan't name them because you just parrot shit you heard >pushing for censorshipif anybody actually bought porn games on a tendie toy they'd censor too>allows denuvo shit to happenNintendo DRM is magnitudes worse than denuvo
>>744634027If only he hid it better. He didn't even change the filenames FFS.
>>744633942>I lost so I'll act like a redditor Why are tendies like this?
>>744634009Usually when something good is about to happen at nintendo or something bad is about to happen at sony or any game NDS fags shills on this board
>>744634148>something bad is about to happen at sonyBut you said we were steam cultists. Make up your mind.
>>744634148gotcha, he's just a bad omen for sony
>>744634018>>744634027>>744634060>>744634092>>744634071Oh oh, the gabentranny cultist is having a meltdown!If valve died tomorrow, all bad business practices in gaming would be dead.
>>744634187Not even talking to you. You're seething so hard you're responding on cooldown. Continue praising valve for doing everything except make games or whatever
>>744634218>Repeats his spiel again like the cultist he isConsolecucks need to be quarantined, deport them all to /vp/
>>744634197>>744634148>exactly one minute apartWe asked you to stop samefagging before. But I guess that fell on deaf ears.
>>744634285>>744634290Oh oh, the gaben cultist is shitting in his diaper!The graph only proves it's a cult.
>>744634027>resident tendie schizo meltdown and samefag all of his posts on multiple devicesHe's using a proxy site and multiple browsers. Like here >>744630481
>>744634273They already made games though. They're so good that they don't need constant sequels or remakes. I'm still enjoying TF2 with custom servers and custom game modes. It's fun having that freedom to enjoy dedicated servers and user made content.
>>744634327If you don't like the majority of the board then you should deport yourself to /vp/No idea why you insist on being here so exposed to people you hate
>>744634350>"They're so good we don't need more games"snoy mentality
>actually, them not making games is a good thingbro, come the fuck on
>>744634398But sony never made games.
>>744634447Just like valve
>>744634438>>744634398When Valve doesn't make a new game, I am free to enjoy any of the thousand + good games on the rest of PC. It's okay for a company to take a break and not make constant rehashes and sequels. They're still supporting their old games, and maintaining the store, so that's all I need from them.What's the problem?>>744634483I dunno m8. TF2 is pretty fun. Might jump on it once I finish this FTL playthrough.
>>744631884>they asked me to choose between a regular gun and a water gun to play russian roulette>wtf I'm dead on the ground, must be the fault of who made me choose
>>744634338>>744634350>>744634396>>744634507The gabentranny cult literally worships not making games not, KWABOOTY
>>744634396>No idea why you insist on being here so exposed to people you hateYou're in a nintendo thread crying that nintendo still exist
>>744615327Holy shit you're an idiot.
>>744634562If it means linux support and freeing us from the windows monopoly, then yes they are allowed to spend a few years not making games. My backlog magically didn't disappear, and neither did Valve's old library of games. *shrugs*
>>744634507Sounds like the cultist takes whatever low effort slop gayben gives it.
>>744634507>"Even if they don't make games, I still have thousands of other games to play"Yep, Snoy mentality
>Browns love ZOGny so much they'd rather be raped over game ownership kek
>>744634620See>>744634626
>>744634521>Nintendo makes a retarded decision to use flash everywhere because they need the game playable off the cart>It bites them in the ass and flash prices go up >Instead of taking responsibility and using discs or eating the cost they make a medium that's more expensive than a disc while no longer carrying the files, making the customer and developers pay for itNintendo's at fault
>>744634027Sure.
>>744634643But snoys prefer watching movies. I like playing games.
>>744634564Nintendo bait threadDon't be mad when it's explicitly baiting non tendies
>>744634616Nah
>>744634669All better than the digital only tranny steam. And discs on a handheld are for retards.
>>744634669>>744634521it's nice when I can reuse posts with zero effort
>>744634716>I like playing games.Apparently not because you spend more time telling people you love PC gaming than playing games on it
>now he hates playing games directly off the cartwow, just wow
>>744634754>Better So you can browse game files, mod games, choose your settings?So you can install whatever operating system you want?
>>744634797Even better, I own my games.
>>744634781I'm literally playing FTL as we speak. Did you not see my past posts? Right now I rerouted to a Rebel stronghold sector and am dealing with some really tough enemies.Dang, it really feels nice knowing that my game isn't tied to steam, so I can mod it to my heart's content without even needing the steam workshop.
>>744634797I like that I can just boot up the game and play it immediately while PC fags have to spend hours setting it up to get the game to look and run smooth
>>744634797Still better than digital only steam, gabentranny cultist.
>>744634860>I own licensed merch!But you don't own the console You don't mind the shackles if you get your merch
>>744634940No I own the console too. Sorry to break your heart.
>>744634904You're responding on cooldown so I don't believe you're actually playing
>>744634915>I am too stupid for computers I know>>744634924It's not better If it was then you wouldn't be subject to draconian DRM Steam DRM is a single sub 1mb fileNintendo DRM is the entire OS
>>744634940>>744634998So steam is evil digital only drm tat only a cult would support, got it.
>>744634987>I'm incapable of playing and posting at the same timeSkill issue, senpai.
>>744634998>I am too stupid for computersMore like I hate wasting time fucking around to get the game working the way it should. Consoles will always be better
>>744633389Praise is given where praise is due. Criticism is given where criticism is due. That shouldn't offend anyone but fanboys.
>>744635021>Cultist repeats himself again Lmao>>744635110Look up high and low time preference And look up what races prefer which
>>744633652This, but consoles.
>>744635148Spoken like a cultist
>>744635110>More like I hate wasting time fucking around to get the game working the way it should. Ah, this explains your hatred of mods. You had a hard time installing them, so you just discarded them as something that shouldn't exist. You have my condolences. Don't worry, champ. One day you'll figure out Xdelta and tmodloader and flips.exe.
>>744635193
>>744635241>PC niggers like to spend hours setting up their game just to play it for a few minuteslol
>>744635286>>744625729
>>744635327>I'm so stupid it takes me hours Why are you embarrassing yourself like that?
>>744635327>it takes hours for anon to patch an SNES game with a bps file
>>744634564>flagrant fanboy flamewar threadftfy
>>744635364Correct, being licensed does, it's about Saint Nintendo blessing your plasticAnd your license is embarrassingly bad, steam has so many of your restrictions as outright features
Average PC vegan
>>744635380>went from talking about modding PC games to installing SNES romhackslmao not beating the shitty PC allegations
>>744634797N-No... b-but Nintendo is still my best friend and my surrogate daddy when my real father walked out on me...
>>744635445>CorrectI know.
>>744635485Yes, you're such a cultist that you think ownership means merch
>>744635226Spoken like a cultist
>>744635461Takes the exact same amount of time to mod more modern games. Like FTL, or Terraria, or for the more graphically intensive titles like Supreme Commander. Really, I can't imagine needing to troubleshoot a game for hours on end. It's literally click and go.Oh well. By the by, if you ever want to try it, give FTL: Multiverse a try. Really does breathe new life into the game.
>>744635515Your opinion of me is noted.
>>744635471>my real father walked out on me...That explains why you're the way you are
>>744635574Your conflation of ownership with merchandise is noted
>>744635551No thanks. But if you ever want to give ownership a try you know where to find it.
>>744635619Not on the console with a very protective landlord with a restrictive licensing agreement
>>744635615>you can't own licensed merchBrand new cope? Tell me you made this up just for me.
>>744635619I already own my Pc games, so yeah I do know where to find it.
>>744635327>>744635461>nintendo fans and pc fightingWeren’t you guys supposed to be allies? I thought PC was the third party backbone of Nintendo.
>>744635604It really does, doesn't it. Thank god I have Nintendo to love me instead, they deserve my worship and shrine in their honor.
>>744635646I don't believe you.
>>744635683That was so they had a leg up on sony. But once sony shot themselves in the foot, PC was considered extraneous and had to go.
>>744635651Ownership is based on functionality and applicability Merchandise has no value beyond being collectible and officially licensed Hope this helps
>>744635658>>744635704
>>744635734Your definition of ownership is wrong btw
>>744635775Meant for >>744625729
>>744635795Nah
>>744614313STOP MAKING FUN OF VALVE
>>744635735Well, remember when I said that almost all of my steam games can be easily cracked so that they don't require steam's extremely light and flimsy DRM? And some games don't even come with it at all?This is the last time I played FTL via steam. ;)
>>744635175>>744634998>>744635201>>744635716So gabentranny cultists lost to the fact steam is evil digital only drm.
>>744635815You lost tendieYou have a landlord that's telling you what to do with your rental property Just because you like him doesn't mean you own what he rented it out to you
>>744635703>Thank god I have Nintendo to love me instead, they deserve my worship and shrine in their honor.Too bad nintendo fans don't talk like this, but steam niggas do as we've witness some dickriding posts earlier lol
>>744635858This was your reply? Really?
>>744633546>. I'd sayso you don't even know lolyou dont even play the games you shill
>>744635884I won, PC vegan.
>>744635885That's exactly what they sound like and only they don't realize it
>>744635858>cultist so gaben obsessed he paid gaben anywayKek, you are a cult.
>>744635964You'll get over it.
>>744635930I like Factorio, but I never got into the endgame that much. But it ran smoothly for me during the hours that I enjoyed it. It's a good game, but not my cup of tea.>>744635967I liked it, so I paid for it. Strange, I know.
>>744635885This retard >>744635947has literally admitted to worshiping nintendo, so you are wrong, that is what you all sound like.
>>744636029>>744636031Yeah, you worship valve and are a cultist. So you paid for gaben's next yacht.
>>744636012It's just fun to laugh at, that's all, stop worrying about it.
>>744635947You have a console that plays games worse and its only perk is being able to get a partial refund If you weren't losing you wouldn't be obsessed with having an exit strategy
>>744636031>>744636012
>>744636064Get over it already, please. >>744636074You'll survive
Sony should go bankrupt and become the new Sega
>>744636120You'll sell everything when Nintendo drops physical and then you'll kill yourself
>>744636141I'll survive
>>744635964>>744636031>has literally admitted to worshiping nintendoNot sure how saying "I won" admits to 'worshiping' nintendo. Just because you lost the argument doesn't make someone a tendie worshipper lol
>>744636063
>>744636120>>744636141>>744636179>generic non-repliesThe steamjeet cultist is SEETHING
>>744636174Every post you've made is in service of bending over for nintendo, and you think 'you won' lmao
>PC nigger loses an argument>"TENDIE CULTIST!">PC nigger worships valve>"THIS IS NOT CULT BEHAVIOR! THEY DESERVE THE PRAISE!! THEY DON'T NEED TO MAKE GAMES EITHER!"
>>744636240Stop projecting gabentranny cultist.
>>744636029>Factory game runs when I'm at the start.Holy fuck, dora tier shit really is too hard for you, let alone autistic factory games.You also confirmed you have a dogshit PC that can't even run modern indies either.
>>744636193WtfI just went to that website, it completely contradicts itself.
>>744636193https://store.steampowered.com/stats/content/IndiaTotal Bytes: 15.1 PBAverage Download Rate: 56 MbpsPercentage of global Steam Traffic: 0.8%Why are you spreading easily verifiable falsehoods?If you want to bitch about generic non replies, see>>744632859>>744635574>>744622551>>744633135>>744636120
>>744636240The fact that you're seething like a little bitch right now seems like a win
>>744636290>indie games are bad because they're not realistic gun and ball slopHoly hell, just stop humiliating yourself.
>>744636316Cry harder, gabentranny cultist.And of course valve censors the truth, otherwise they would upset their cult.
>>744636316Sure.
>>744636359Cry harder, tendietranny cultist.And of course nintendo censors the truth, otherwise they would upset their cult.
>>744636341No one ever said anything about realistic gun and ball slop. Your computer is just shit that's a fact
>>744636331Pure projection lamo
>>744636420>lamouh oh PC nigger melty
>>744636396It's not an RTX 5070, you're right. Still plays every game that I need and want, thoughbeit.
>>744636302Cry harder you pathetic little minority lol
>>744636383>n-n-no UUUUUUSpoken like a true cultist. Gaben doesn't love you.
>>744636446>Still plays every game that I need and wantyeah games from 20 years ago
>>744636445Stay big buttmad lamo lmao
>>744636491Not my fault games from 20 years ago are better. Don't you have a 50 dollar demake to obsess over?
>>744636465>n-n-no UUUUUUYour fellow tendies make a lot of use of this strategy If you say so little that I can just swap the words and it's just as valid an accusation then you should try harder
>>744636497Calm down, little buddy. You still have your $50 Pc that can play games from 20 years ago
>>744636383>ported meme
>>744636545>Factorio is a AAA demake.Lol?
>>744636556>reeeeeeee nintendo SAVE MEEElol
>post a picture of a shelf>700 replies
>>744636591Tendies get worse ports of games that need to be stripped down to accommodate for how dogshit it is, true
>>744636615>gape asshole for nintendo squeal about it on /v/
Amazing how people here will immediately accuse you of being a tendie cultist without even mentioning nintendo lmao
>>744636193>Meanwhile the same website
>>744636615>700 replies because steam niggers don't like when you make fun of PC or Gabe
ACbald actually made me self conscious over how much time I spend on this shithole.Over last month more than halved my time spent posting here and was shocked to see how much bits of free time I actually had.And mind you the quick resume off the switch is amazing for those moments.
>>744636674This is their source Now find the other 853.5 million
>>744636551>>744636497>>744636617>>744636674>>744636710Oh oh, the gabentranny cultist is having a meltdown!Just accusing others of shit you are actively doing won't make gaben love you.
>>744636703If only your fellow tendies were so bright.
>>744636703It's really funny that tendies have to put their toy to sleep and then slowly scribble out posts on their tiktok machines instead of just alt tabbing and typing at 120wpmThe very act of consolecuckery is a waste of time
>>744636731>mass reply>I-I'm n-not a s-seething c-cultist, you are!lollmao
Valvefags just proved they are worse than snoys
>>744636764you're aware people can have more than one electronics device, right?
>>744636593You hate it for not having realistic graphics.
>>744636731>Your source has been proven shit and you're coping That 850m number has zero sources You lost
>>744636732>>744636764>>744636771The gabentranny is SEETHING hard.
>>744636771>instant seething replyYou just proved his point
>>744636764This. They will never know the joy of shitposting from a real handheld that doesn't treat them like retarded criminal toddlers.
>>744636795YesAnd I'm also aware that consoleniggers can't touch type or phonepost which makes them slower
>>744636826Actually I proved that you and him are gay faggot lovers lol
>>744636813>>744636831>fake screenshotYou lost and got raped, valvejeet.
>>744636870Yep, totally not seething lmao
>>744636871https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/steam-users-by-countryIt's at the very bottom of the page The only source cited in fact
>>744636703You don't own a switch, though. You just shitpost against Valve.inb4 photoshopped timestamp you got from reddit.
>>744636831Why would you post from a mobile device and not from a real keyboard on your PC? You can't even afford a mech keyboard? They are dirt cheap nowadays.
>>744636940Because my handheld is mine and I can do as I please with it.
>>744636939>You just shitpost against Valve.Why does it make you mad when someone makes fun of valve?
>>744636985Making fun of them is fine, but making up blatantly untrue statements is gonna get you called out.Just a note for future reference.
>>744636831>a real handheld that doesn't treat them like retarded criminal toddlersWell it's a good thing it doesn't exist
>>744636923>>744636980Sounds like the gabentranny cult has run out of copes.
>>744636985not even making fun of, just posting facts is enough to anger the yacht cultists these days from how evil valve has been
>>744637065Sounds like you are having a cultist meltdown. BTW, the Nintendo seethe thread you spent 13 hours page 10 bumping just died ;)
>>744637078Are you stupid, loads of them except, just not possible on locked down consoleslop you don't own.
>>744637065>making up blatantly untrue statements is gonna get you called outWhich ones? it is true that you don't own your games on steam
>>744637179Says the plasticlicker.
>>744637179If you're using cucked definitions of ownership from consoles and corporations, sure.
>>744637090Valve is so evil yet you hid behind them all during the switch 1 era and even now because your crummy Nintendo has no third party support on par with other consoles
>>744637213>>744637218>instant seething replylol lmao
>>744637083I can't hear you over the sound of you so aggressively sucking nintendick.
>>744637083Why aren't you capable of accepting that the core of your seethe has been completely debunked?That very page states that there are at most 1m jeets on steam
>>744637169>>744637218>>744637213>>744637249>>744637260So steam is anti ownership digital only drm of evil. Only a cult would defend that.And I haven't even mentioned Nintendowt all ;)
>>744636764Wait, do you really not know what a job is? Having a switch is amazing for night watch.
>>744637252Concession accepted.
>macaco and acbald still having a meltynintendo won
>>744637291Btw throwing insults is not "calling someone out". Gabe didn't teach you that?
>>744637275>And I haven't even mentioned Nintendowt all ;)And yet you're seething on their behalf as you give them a big old sloppy jalopy how odd
>>744637283You don't have a switch or a job. You lie through your teeth so much that it's hilarious.
