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STILL THE KING
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Of brown thirdies
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>>744617837
Perfect console design too.
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3 PS2 games out of your head, go
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>>744620254
downhill domination
sky gunner
sub rebellion
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>>744620254
jak and daxter
jak 2
jak 3
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>>744620254
Ace Combat 4,5,0
MGS2/3/3S
Ratchet & Clank
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>>744620381
Those are 7 games
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>>744617837
48GB/s to fill a 512x448 frame buffer snake!
More than enough to draw any transparency effect you can imagine and double that!.
Never a video game had so much fil rate per pixel on it's common resolutionj, and no video game will have this again!
It's a true marvel of engineering.
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>weaker than the tendie cube
>80% of its library was shovelware
>mainly used as a glorified DVD player that distracted kids every once in a while
yeah still the "king" you fucking retarded faggot
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>>744620458
Didn't the travelers tales guy demonstrate it did like 1 million particles at 60fps? Or was it 10mil?
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>>744620438
Keep the change.
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>>744620479
>weaker than the tendie cube
We could spend all day discussing this and not get to a definitive answer so i will just say "depends on the game" and get away with it
>80% of its library was shovelware
20% of the PS2 library is still a lot more games than the gamecube
>mainly used as a glorified DVD player that distracted kids every once in a while
Sadly the true is that it was more of a GTA/Fifa machine than anything else.
50% dvd/50% figta

>>744620537
17million but per second, which is around 500.000 per frame:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEQLbbyToxw
But all using transparency and not giving a fuck.
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>>744617837
Oh boy the destroyer of gaming! SLAY KING!
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>>744620719
>"depends on the game" and get away with it
Think you're cute don't you? Think I know you don't lust for blood?
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>>744620479
God of war? OKAMI, GODHAND? RESIDENT EVIL 4 DEVIL MAY CRY SHADOW OF THE COLOSSUS
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>>744620719
>depends on the game
so literally every single game that came out on both gamecube and PS2 and looked better on gamecube? why are you trying to use underhanded language to try to convince people otherwise? you stupid revisionist faggot fag lord
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Would gladly take PS2's first year of console exclusives than whatever the PS4/5 have combined.
Crazy to think that blockbuster after blockbuster would come out on a regular basis, now we are lucky if we get 1-2 a year.
And when I say 'blockbuster' I fucking mean it, these games were fun without any kind of pandering to any group of people.
Fucking glad that I stocked up on PS1/2/3 games that will last me a life time, now if I can only find a decently priced Castlevania: Symphony of the Night then I'm set..
Also thinking about N64 and Dreamcast but not sure at the moment.
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Original Xbox series S.
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>>744620254
Jak and Daxter
Shadow of the Colossus
God of War

What do I win?
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>>744621049
The gamecube was easier to develop for and had a better default screen resolution.
But if you tried to port something like MGS2 or Silent hill 2 for it, you would have to cripple the hell out of the transparency effects for example.
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Pretty much the worst console ever made. Xbox came out a year later and was 3x more powerful.
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>>744621676
>The gamecube was easier to develop for and had a better default screen resolution.
common misconception
it runs at the same res as PS2
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>>744620254
Tony Hawk, a different Tony Hawk, FIFA
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>>744620254
Onimusha 2
WWF Smackdown: Here Comes the Pain
The Bouncer
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>>744622052
The PS2 has a 640x480 resolution?
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>>744622637
It does, but gamecube and ps2 both use 448 line resolutions. Especially for first party nintendo.
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>>744617837
I kneel, still unsurpassed and never dethroned
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>>744620479
The PS2 library is so huge and varied that it still has hundreds of games worth playing even with shovelware. The shovelware argument is fucking retarded anyway cause every platform has it and the worst offender is the Wii, not the PS2
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>>744617837
>be 2024
>oh shit, the switch is about to outsel the ps2
>quick, introduce ps2s to the market in somalia
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>>744622771
the difference between shovelware on ps2 and wii is it's a funny little oddity some british sitcom has a dumb spain exclusive game nobody ever heard of on PS2. On Wii it's a game every wii owner bought and played once and now it pads out every used game section with infinity copies of it and for some reason there's people who grew up with them SWEAR it's actually a really good game.

Same goes for DS and GBA. Throw in the Wii and you have the triad of shovelware.
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>>744622685
Yeah, the vertical resolution is the same indeed, but as far i know PS2 often use 512x448 instead of 640x448, and this make it look grainier, even when the developer implement some form of mip mapping (which for some reason on the PS2 is often forgotten).
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>>744617837
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>>744621494
Melee clears all of that slop
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>>744620254
Black
Burnout dominator
Rule of Rose
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>>744620254
DBZ Budokai 3
Kingdom Hearts
Ratchet and Clank 2
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>>744622836
>noooo not THOSE console sales
>THOSE console sales dont count because they just dont, okay?
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>>744620479
80% of the library is not shovelware lmao. The ps2 had hits for every genre. It had everything for everyone. It continued the experimental game trend that the ps1 had going. The PS2 has a lot of hidden gems. It's the greatest console of all time. Cuckcube only has around 600 games. I saw PS2's in more households than any other console back then.
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>>744622771
Ironically enough this is admitting the switch 1 has a superior library because it's even larger than the PS2's now, higher quality stuff too, including the ports of any indie game actually worth playing.
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>>744617837
im partial to the ps1 but both are good
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>>744622963
Yeah 512x448 is also very common on GC, basically all the biggest games run at that resolution.
>mip mapping
Hurts the impression of distant detail by softening and blurring it. Really if you want all the bells and whistles you go Xbox which doesn't compromise by running at 512x448 unlike ps2 and gc. There's like 3 480i only games and most titles bottom out at 480p.
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I bought a stack of DVDs, and I'm burning Sonic Heroes right now. Any quick game recommendation?
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>>744620479
Every console worth playing has a shit load of shovelware. Shovelware is not a sign of a library is bad, just that it has a massive userbase. Just look at the NES and Atari 2600. Hell every Nintendo console that wasn't the fucking Virtual Boy because no one bought that piece of garbage.
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>>744623138
Mip mapping/trilinear/anisotropic filtering is basically a requeriment for 3D graphics, otherwise you get horrbile noise.
Top end PS2 games do it, but many don't because it's not just as switch
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>>744623267
>Mip mapping/trilinear/anisotropic filtering is basically a requeriment for 3D graphics
Anon that's fucking stupid
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>>744623234
Katamari Damacy and We Love Katamari
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>>744623092
I find people use the term shovelware to describe genuine 7/10 games and not for ultra low effort garbage. If you use it for the former then yeah you can get close to 80% of the PS2 library.
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>>744623401
when nintendo fans are talking about shovelware they're talking about every game not made on nintendo, when anyone else does they're talking about 100 mystery puzzles for windows 98 and zombo fitness.
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Before Myrient went down I finally made an archive of everything I was even slightly interested in from the 3rd gen to the 7th. I ended up with 54 Gamecube games and 155 PS2 games.
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>>744623469
>100 mystery puzzles for windows 98
You better not be shitting on the Windows Entertainment Packs.
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>>744623303
Not really, you probably only played a game without it once or twice because it looks absurdly awful.
When you have too many texture pixels shoved into the same screen pixel, the CPU will just pick at random and do literal noise.
You have to keep the ratio of screen pixels vs texture pixels as close as possible to have a good output picture.
mip map is brutal because it does a hard switch at distance, but better solutions do a better job at it, with trilinear at least smoothly blending the steps, and anisotropic filtering getting pretty darn close of keeping the 1:1 ratio without over blurring an specific axis.
TAA also fixes this, but you get a shitload of ghosting.
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>>744618270
>4chan is now banned from the PS2
Why do us White men keep getting shafted? Now we're banned from playing the last good console?
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>>744623897
*the GPU
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>>744620479
Why do you hate PC so much? Do you still not have a Steam account?
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>>744623540
Take it as a lesson
Loose lips sink ships
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>>744624198
That isn’t why Myrient went down btw
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>>744623096
Nah, shitch games are just pure dogshit, bad remasters and ports galore like everything past 6th gen. Ironically, the PS2 still has the most higheste-rated game of any console on metacritic even with that criteria

Number of Games with 93 or more:
PS2 - 25
XBOX 360 - 22
PS3 - 18
Switch - 13
PS5 - 11
PS4 - 9

Number of Games with 90 or more:

PS2 - 58
XBOX 360 - 54
PS3 - 49
Switch - 40
PS5 - 35
PS4 - 33

Number of Games with 87 or more:

XBOX 360 - 118
Switch - 109
PS3 - 109
PS2 - 101
PS4 - 101
PS5 - 90
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>>744620254
The Hobbit, Ace Combat 4/5/0, Lego Star Wars 1/2.
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>>744620254
def jam ffny, state of emergency, ssx 3
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>>744617837
Enormous library.
-1000 sports titles (junk)
-1000 licensed anime games, strategy and VNs mostly (junk)
-another 1000 licensed shovelware games (junk)
-100 actual good tiles
-95 have superior ports on other systems (double the frame rate etc)
-that leaves 5 decent exclusive games

Wow! 5 games! What an amazing system lol.

The SNES and PS1 shit all over the ps2.
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PS2 not only has the perfect library of games it can also do graphical effects that modern consoles can’t do.
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>>744625909
if anything series x of all things probably has the biggest library of 'good' games you can play on it, but ps2 definitely has the best and most exclusives
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>>744620254
GTA SA
Metal Arms
Shinobido
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>GTA6
PS5 will easly reach 150 millions
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>>744617837
op here I meant to post pic, sorry
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>>744629008
Enormous library.
-1000 sports titles (junk)
-1000 licensed anime games, strategy and VNs mostly (junk)
-another 1000 licensed shovelware games (junk)
-100 actual good tiles
-95 have superior ports on other systems (double the frame rate etc)
-that leaves 5 decent exclusive games

Wow! 5 games! What an amazing system lol.

The SNES and PS2 shit all over the ps1.
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>>744629032
you weren't born
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>>744617837
>Blocks your path
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>>744620254
Graffiti Kingdom
Alien Hominid
Clock Tower 3
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https://youtu.be/LAqy7xQhN_g
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>>744625909
>muh journo scores
thanks for admitting BOTW is one of, if not THE best game ever made btw, with splatoon raiders being a very close second
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>>744630632
>comparing console libraries
>starts rambling about 2 unrelated wii u and switch 2 games
uh ok
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>>744620254
DVD player
Jacky Chan Movie 1
Jacky Chan Movie 2
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Nintendo faggots have been coping for 26 years.
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>>744620479
Based. Dreamcast was superior.
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>>744620254
SSX3
Digital Devil Saga
Valkyrie Profile 2
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>>744620254
Rayman 2: The Great Escape.
Star Wars Episode 3.
Mega Man X8.
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>>744617837
It's been 20 years since the last time we played it, anon. You have to let me go. Sony making overpriced consoles with bad games was not your fault
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>>744620254
Gradius V
R-Type Final
The Red Star
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>>744632253
nta but I JUST played some DDRMAX about two hours ago. Also put some time into Baroque last week because I'm determined to actually beat that game this year after owning it since release.
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>>744620254
Destroy all humans
Destroy all humans 2
Dragonball budokai tenkaichi 2
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>>744632253
I just played Wildarms last night. Planning on using it tonight to watch Fear and Loathing before bed.
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>>744632253
I beat shadow of rome less than a year ago
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>>744621494
>first year
>2001
Those are second year games. The PS2 launched in 2000 in the US
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>>744625909
you lost eric.
stay mad.
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>>744620254
Spider-Man 1
Spider-Man 2
Spider-Man 3
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>>744620254
TIMESPLITTERS
TIMESPLITTERS 2
TIMESPLITTERS: FUTURE PERFECT

TIME
TO
SPLIT
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>>744635369
Dilate, Phil
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>>744617837
*Queen
consoles are female. The same as ships are.
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what is a king without a kingdom?
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>>744635839
>
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>>744636065
>PS2 is a GILF now
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>>744617837
Pic unrelated.
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I was mostly a Nintendo kid growing up, but I finally got around to installing PSBBN and got my PS2 hooked up to a CRT and optical to my receiver for surround sound.

What are some more overlooked games on the console? I've played MGS2 and 3. Plan on going through at least the original Jak & Daxter, the Ratchet & Clank games, etc. I've got a modded Wii so I probably won't be playing anything that's also on the Gamecube unless for some reason that specific game is better on PS2
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>>744622996
...if you're a tendie pedophile who doesn't shower
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>>744623096
LMAO
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>>744636903
Sky Odyssey
Shadow of Rome
Downhill Domination
Burnout 3, Revenge
Radiata Stories
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>>744620254
Hitman: Silent Assassin
Hitman: Contracts
Hitman: Blood Money
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>>744636903
god hand

and dont ignore ps2 for all multiplats, some are objectively better than gamecube's like crash wrath of cortex, def jam fight for new york, dragon ball z budokai, etc.
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>>744632253
For the past week I have been playing Soulcalibur II and I'm unlocking everything. After that, I am going to move onto Soulcalibur III and not play Chronicles of the Sword, since it can currupt your memory card. Somehow I never ran into this back in the day (and I bought the game at launch). I assume it's because I never really played this mode.
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>>744617837
And that's a bad thing. Gaming is fucking dead.
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>>744637050
fuck this looks fun
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>>744636903
I hope this helps Anon.
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>>744637292
>Lightgun games on a console
>Western shovelware
>NuCrash, Sonic, NuMegaman
Actual garbage list.
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>>744637406
Buddy, Time Crisis II and III (I haven't played Crisis Zone and don't own it on the PS2, so I can't speak on that) are the best versions of the game.
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>>744637531
To be clear, you're not counting the arcade versions, right?
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>>744637576
I am. The PS2 version / port graphically looks better than the arcade cabinet. This same thing happened with Soulcalibur (Dreamcast version)
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>>744633680
he's not wrong, ps2 launched at the end of october in US
nobody considers the "first year" to just be nov and dec
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>>744620254
Ratchet and Clank 3
Gran Turismo 4
Maximo
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>Objectively the best library
>Also has the second best library thanks to backwards compatibility
>Good sturdy controller
Honestly there is no argument to be made to discredit the ps2. It is at the absolute peak and it will likely stay there forever.
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>>744620254
Katamari Damacy
Dot//Hack-Infection
FrontMission 4
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>>744638921
.hack// is the reason I bought a PS2 in 2003. Very old photo but you get the point.
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>>744617837
Honestly though
Games really didn't need to progress past 6th gen
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>>744620254
Rumble Roses
Ridge Racer V
Tekken 4

(But also Shadow of the Colossus, Sakura Taisen So Long My Love, Zone of the Enders, Metal Gear Solid 2 and 3, Need for Speed Hot Pursuit 2, Primal Image, Gran Turismo 3 and 4, Haunting Ground, Clock Tower 3, ObsCure, Shinobi, Kunoichi etc. These are just off the top of my head.)
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>>744620254
Omeeeeeeega Boost and Resident Evil
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>>744639602
Dot//hack IMOQ remaster when bros?
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>>744629519
for me its https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Zeq0Q-zam4
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>>744637050
>down hill domination
kineticlops was the best character
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>>744617837
Pretty crazy that gaming peeked in the 2000's sold the most consoles ever and never recovered since.
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>>744617837
Nothing personal kid.
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>>744617837
>can play ps1&2 games
no shit sherlock.
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>>744639928
It honestly deserves the number 1 spot for being so much better than every other console.
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>>744639729
I don't think it's ever happening sadly. I truly believe they lost the source code.
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>>744620479
>summer fags are still trying the DVD player angle
LOL LMAO
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>>744620254
SkyGunner
Gauntlet Dark Legacy
Aggressive Inline
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>>744620254
MGS2
Zone of the Enders 2
Star Wars Battlefront 2
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>>744617837
>PS2/GC/XB1
the absolute pinnacle of console vidya, it was downhill from there.
>just nostalgia
nah I grew up on N64 then PC.
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>>744617837
Wrong console. THIS waas the absolute dominator.
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>>744620479
Tendie's still seething for getting bullied as a kid because he had the shitcube kek
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>>744617837
Deck is King for me.
>Imagine you could play the entire PS2 library in bed.
>>744620254
Orphan
Prince of Persia
DB Budokai 2
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>>744644432
lmao just what i was thinking
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>>744617837
True. If I had to pick one console I could play for the rest of my life it'd be PS2 and I didn't even have one back when it was relevant, I had a GameCube.
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>>744632253
I never grew up with the system so it's always a good moment to discover something new with it
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>>744632806
>R-Type Final
I been playing it recently. It's so fuckin bad. How did the company that made Delta then made this dogshit?
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>>744620254
PES 4
PES 5
PES 6
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>>744622836
Somalian gamers playing soul PS2 games in their village huts >>> sòycucks buying their 7th switch to frame in their mancaves



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