>What if we made a Japanese fantasy game, BUT THE ANIMALS HAVE PLANTS GROWING ON THEM >And we'll have the main characters be a ronin and a shrine maiden, but we'll cover them with tassels and greebles and useless trash. THATS WHAT MAKES THEM UNIQUE!>And our boss music will be koto and Japanese with chanting in the background!
>what if we had fantasy instead of boring realismThis makes the westerner confused and enraged
>>744622331Fantasy is supposed to be made from an artists unique vision. Its meaningless if its all copy pasted.
Wild hearts is incredibly fun compared to other 2
>>744623430Grim
>>744621789Nioh 3
Slop
>>744623023Then Western fantasy games are also unimaginative. They are mostly medieval fantasy with dragons, orcs and elves.
>>744621660Is this a new Toukiden?
>>744621789Kumitsu gami is actually fun. Not sure about the other two.
>>744626420Only gook and chink games are novel right now. Wukong clones will be oversaturated in a few years.
>>744626501Yeah
>>744626420Dark souls is a western fantasy yet all of its creatures and environments are wholly original.
>>744621660Japan only has moss pigs and fire foxes
>>744627967>Dark souls is a western fantasy yet all of its creatures and environments are wholly original.
>>744629036Find me another game with kingseeker Frampt or Asylum Demon
>>744627967Dark souls is made by a Japanese studio.
>>744621660That one at the bottom looks nothing like the other 2.You faggots really need to find something better to do with your time other than fabricating drama out of nothing, it is pathetic.
>>744629050There's plenty of games with serpent characters. Maybe not that specific design, but similar. Also, dark souls is Japanese.
>>744629050Do you mean a game with giant serpents and demons?
>>744621660i'm sold. i love japan.
just a reminder that literally no other game before Dark Souls had Slimes in it
>>744629087>>744629202You do realize there's a difference between the developer country and the genre? Wild Hearts is partly a western studio but its eastern fantasy.
>>744621660Reminds of bullfangos. Fuck bullfangos.
>>744629218>Rainbow colored festering wounds>>744629371>Actual sewer feces matter with bones instead of a green blobThese are good examples of how they took a western concept and made it original.
>>744621660the scifi equivalent of this is rolling grassy plains with random outcroppings of glowing blue bismuth poking out
>>744621660I do not pay attention to or play any games with a easten aesthetic. Japanese, chinese, korean, don't care, if I see ching chong outfits, katanas and mysticism, I ignore it. The only exception I've ever made to this rule was Sekiro. I have only finished it once and have no desire to ever replay it.
>>744621660You're trying way too hard to fit in.
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>>744629397Yeah but when I said that Western fantasy games are unimaginative, I meant from a regional perspective. Not a genre perspective. Almost all Western made fantasy games have a generic medieval European fantasy setting with dragons, orcs, and elves.
I have the lowest expectations because GF make mid to shit games.
>>744629549>Actual sewer feces matter with bones instead of a green blob>These are good examples of how they took a western concept and made it original.Dungeons and Dragons had the Gelatinous Cube since 1974
>>744629887>instead of a green blob
>>744629671I'll agree on that. There's very few Western games that can capture Tolkien aesthetics.
>>744629671And an equal number of Japanese fantasy games are "adventurer guild" slop where you kill Maou at the end and get an airship at exactly the 2/3 mark. You'd obviously call it unfair to dismiss schizoshit like Megami Tensei as "generic RPGs where teenagers fight God", so give some benefit of the doubt to series you're unfamiliar with like Ultima.
>>744621660>break free from nintendo and the pokemon mines for once>waste their chance by making another fucking generic parryslop sekiro cloneIs there a more creatively bankrupt studio than GF?
>>744630021Atleast in Japanese slop you see some variety. In Western games there is almost nothing. The big Japanese franchises don't have generic settings, except for dragon quest and dragons dogma. Whereas big Western games are all generic. >generic RPGs where teenagers fight GodThat's a plot trope, not a setting trope.
>>744630203Parry slop > combo slop
>>744630315XXY slop is better because there's at least more than two attacks for the 100 hour game.
>>744630270(NTA) What are we counting as "the big japanese franchises"? Final Fantasy? That one kinda carries, let's be real, and even it leaned on fantasy tropes early on.I loath to engage in anything that resembles "east vs west" discourse, but there's counterexamples on both sides. PoE, for being a Diablo clone, does its own thing with its setting and monsters. DMC, for being a Resident Evil game for much of its development, does its own thing with its setting and monsters. And so on.
>>744630471Pretty much all parry slop like nioh or khazan has more than 2 attacks. Cope.
>>744630556Command skills don't count
>>744630547>the big japanese franchises"Persona, smt, nier automata, final fantasy, etc. Now compare those to Witcher, Skyrim, dragon age, etc. >PoE, for being a Diablo clone, I didn't pay much attention to the story of that game, but I'm pretty sure it was medieval European esque. It also had stuff like sirens, beastmen, etc.
>>744630660No, they have combos too. And why don't command skills count? LMAO.
Me don see the problm with amnimals with flowers on there head
>>744630753>why don't command skills count?Four cooldown attacks doesn't equate to a combo tree.
>>744630839Because japs only have pig with flower or fox with multiple tails
>>744630897So? They are still attacks And like I said, these games also have combos.
>>744631081You will be sucked
>>744621660>Frog with moss on his head
>>744630897Command skills don't have cooldowns. What?You know Nioh has weapons that have lights and heavies on each stance, 3 stances, jumping attacks, running attacks, rolling attacks, now also ninja form versions for those that overlap and that's before any of the command skills? Nioh has an overwhelming number of attack options.Khazan is a lot more simplified though I'll give you that. That game is more like parryslop though.
>another dogshit bait thread/v/ must die
>>744631235You are talking about the exception, not the rule.
>>744631136Troonb
>>744631750One million
wow almost like there is nothing else left to create or something
>>744621660>its another emotionless girl gamecmon now, shes cute but they REALLY gotta stop doing this. its just boring? why do japs love that shit? where the FUCK are my genki girls at, like i literally cannot name one game where one is the mc
I want a nioh monster hunter so bad
>>744621660Still better than westoid slop. at least it doesn't present itself as shitty propaganda with no attention to the gameplay or any other design of the game. It's like you fags think we've forgotten about avowed, Starborn or whatever, Veilguard and all the other major recent flops of the Western game's industry.>>744629986Ironically, the Japs captured that with Dragon's Dogma series and also the Souls games. Basically games that deal with a lot of deeper themes like how fate binds us and if it's even possible to escape this wheel of fate.>>744630270Even Dragon's dogma and Dragon Quest have unique takes on generic settings where Dragon's Dogma is pretty much a critique of eternal return and the need to awaken the will to stop the cycle and Dragon's Quest basically being babby's first adventure but with toriyama's artstyle . Most Western games have literally been the same Tolkien derived shit since Oblivion and they haven't grown past that. Even Ultima and Might and Magic despite being based and reverently referencing D&D and Tolkien did their own things.
>>744634291>its not propaganda
>>744634684American branches of Japanese companies always tell their Japanese counterparts (who know nothing about America) that we worship trannies and love progressivism and all that bullshit. The same shit happened in Nintendo during the 2010s and Sega in the 90s. It's not a new thing for Japanese devs to be fed wrong information by backstabbing career-driven cunts in their American branch.
>>744621789Kumitsu is niche, not slop
>>744633823Soul Sacrifice
>>744634818>Umm actually its just a handful of marketers>looks inside >Nintendo, Sega, Sony, Square Enix, Capcom, Koei Techmo>all changes happening to ingame contentThe whole Japanese industry is compromised
>>744633765Ugly foid game.
>>744634965To the Western market because they think we're retarded puritans and zealots about gay shit (literally) and other political nonsense. Zoomers don't remember how Capcom stated Poison from final Fight was a tranny so a feminist group would stop bothering them about how the game promotes violence against women.
>>744635085>stated Poison from final Fight was a tranny so a feminist group would stop bothering them about how the game promotes violence against women.I thought one of the artists just liked futa porn?
>Nioh>parryslopWhat the fuck are you people talking aboutThey only added parry in the third game, and it's a skill you can unequip. You can finish the game without parrying even once. Hell the ninja mode is all about moving fast and doing dodgesWo Long is the Koei Tecmo's parryslop
>>744635338No. they changed her into a "her" because they were worried they going to get sued by feminist groups in America due to the insinuation that hitting women in america might be "rude".https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poison_(Final_Fight)#Conception_and_designOfficially, they're indifferent to both inerpretations as long as the games sells (Yoshinori Ono said that she's officially a "she" but that's just his opinion and there was probably some intent to add shock value to dudes that jerked off to her since no one else backed him up on that, kinda corroborated by him backing off from that statement in 2011 ), but from their cultural ignorance causing them to turn a female character into a tranny to the insinuation that DVs are culturally normal and accepted part of life in Japan, the entire situation is funny all around.
>>744635338No, they openly said it was because americans were retarded and threatened litigation over it.
The amount of Wizardry dickriding they do is still worse than the inspiration they take from ancient japan. People now think all dungeon crawling tropes were invented by the souls series when it's yet another victim of the Wizardry menace
>>744621660FUCK YOUKUNITSU GAMI WAS KINO
>>744635575or Rise of the Ronin
>>744636221Agree. Really welll made game
>>744621660Kunitsu is a good game
>>744627198You can just say you're Chinese bro, they won't send you to Guantanamo Bay if you do
>>744621789> 3 great games>nature basedWhy are sociopaths so resentful towards Nature? You know you are an animal right?
>>744621660This. Give me less jap shit and more Wukong!!!!!
>>744641818>You know you are an animal right?Humans are the best animals. I find it funny how keeping humans as a pet has its own funny word.
>>744621660>BUT THE ANIMALS HAVE PLANTS GROWING ON THEMThis is unironically kino and if you don't like it you're a mind melted little nigger baby who has a bitch fit when he sees a tree in his concrete prison.
>>744644685It insists upon itself
>>744641031Oversaturated isn't a good thing. It'll be overdone too.
>>744621789>Only three (3) games>They all belong to different genres and play completely differently You sure showed me, faggot
>>744644725The cock in your ass? It doesn't, you just keep sitting on it.
>>744644725What does that even mean
>>744644778The art and design is the same.
>>744645680Unlike the millions of medieval rpgs that exist?
>>744645741Knights and dragon art existed in real life.
>>744644857Tries to be unique and soulful but ends up becoming the opposite because none of its ideas are original.
>>744630839Me neither fren
>>744645786So did samurais and ayakashi
>>744645827There is literally nothing in the world that is unique and precious. Everything is commodified, copied and bastardized. The least you can do is enjoy something that appeals (or tries to at least) to your sense of aesthetics. You pretentious NIGGER.YOU INSIST ON YOUR OWN NARCISISTIC VIEW THAT IT IS BAD TO BE DERIVATIVE.WHAT OTHER CHOICE DO CREATIVES HAVE THEN.
Kunitsu Gami is a work of art. You're just a sad hater calling out... Tassels? Are you gay? Fashion choices bother you? Try PLAYING a game instead of critiquing clothes like some drag queen.
>>744646056Shill me on the gameplay, it just looks like a tower defense to me
>>744645741name 5
>>744646718Demon's SoulsDark Souls 1Dark Souls 2Dark Souls 3Elden Ring
>>744646718ULTIMA 1, 2, 3, 4 AND 5
>>744646718Kingdome Cum 1 and 2Chivalry 1 and 2 Crusader Kings
>>744646839>Kingdome Cum 1 and 2Has magic (alchemy that gives you superpowers)>Chivalry 1 and 2Fantasy world with mason and AGATHAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaAAAAAAAaaaaaaAAAAAAAAA
>>744646893>he thinks alchemy isn't real
>>744645929Samurai look nothing like the multi layered weeb shit in Kunitsu
>>744646218It's a mix of an tower defense RTS and stylish action gameplay in the main/boss stages and there are base-building portions that influence the upgrades you can get in the action stages.It's a well done game that experiments with different genres that traditionally don't mix well with action games and filters them down to a point where the action gameplay takes precedence but the other elements play a major role too. It's a definite recommend if you can get it on sale. completing it was a blast and it had a solid 20-30 hour campaign that lasts for a bit but doesn't overstay its welcome. Also the priestess is a cutie
>>744649005I'm already inclined to get it anyway (that's why I asked) but I'm just afraid cause it sounds like the shitty RTS parts in Brütal Legend
>>744649104Oh fair enough. the RTS parts are implemented well. There was a lot of thought, passion and love put into this game and it shows. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHI_Cry5PbYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4H9kqaZPVEThere's more of these types of videos on the behind the scenes shit for the game. It's a good watch.It reminds me of the type of games actually talented and passionate creatives used to make before the AAA industry executives and managers and normalfags colluded to destroying the industry with low-quality schlock. It's why i have a hard time calling a lot of Japanese games slop too unless they're unronically kusoge levels of shit or rather bland, inoffensive yearly release type shit: it's a mirror image into western game dev world used to look like 15-20 years ago but JapaneseI still love how the main enemies are called the Seethe. maybe it's a translation error or that's what they were meant to be called, but it's based.
>>744647968That character is closer to Chowder than real samurai.
>>744646218Its Reengine Monster Hunter Rise slop.
>wolf as your companion>emotionally retarded foid protagonistyep, it's "games for teenage girls" time
>>744651769I hope they'll have fun with this soulslike original IP made for PS5 and overpriced Xboxes and powerful gaming PC because clearly they aren't just doom scrolling tiktok instead
>>744630839It's just nitpicking to throw a little more dirt on the coffin
>>744651769To be fair Pokémon has become a foid only franchise.
>>744651769I hope we see some "you just know's" soon then.
>>744623023No that's the definition of art you absolute spa.OPINION REJECTED
>>744659952If it's ao generic that it can't be considered art then its slop.
