Blows my mind that THIS is what some people are calling “slow”
Didn't you get the memo? Nobody actually plays video games its just vaguely gaslighting people about what video games are.Retard OP.
>>744622629Godamn singleplayer fps players have to be the most cucked gaming demographic, playing against braindead ai that pose no challenge, theres no excitment, engagement or anything holy fuck thats so dry.
>>744622629Compared to Doom and Quake that is glacial.
>>744622629wheres the superawesome cool sprint inbetween every enemy, wheres the completely necessary 1.2x zoom in, wheres the shiny gun reflection like it was waxed todayman boomers really used to play 0/10 games glad thid got remastered!
>>744622729>didnt actually watch the videokek, well played
>>744622629Halo CE still has the best movement in any FPS game. It feels so fucking good to play
Not enough sliding and bunnyhopping
That is slow.The only people who don't see that as slow are people unfamiliar with pc shooters. Which basically sums up how Halo built a fanbase.
>>744622746Nigga, it's THE console shooter. No duh that it looks boring. There are other popular FPS games this board whines about precisely because they're too hard and have too much going on for them.
>>744622629You don't understand, if I'm not constantly mashing the controller sliding around it's not stimulating enough for my addled brain.
>>744622629>no gory kills>no air dashes>no slidesshan't be playing this indie early access slop
Johnson is fucking dead
>>744622629This is what classifies as a fast FPS nowhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ce1fNUQHTiQ
>>744623705he’ll be fine
>>744622746Good singleplayer shooters are like puzzle games. The fun is in figuring out how to "solve" each encounter that the developers have set up.Like a puzzle game, it's only really a challenge once.
>>744623705How? Isn't he a fucking 1st gen Spartan? And why did he kick the bucket in H3 from a gotam light bulb of all things?
>>744624682>why did this guy job to the forerunner mega rape 9000 death raygee I wonder
>>744624682shrimple as.eons old forerunner tech: 1mutant freak black man with short temper: 0
>>744622629I always wanted to play Halo2 on PC but it was that cucked vista version. Is it doable now? I want the original PC version with like a resolution fix nothing more. Just to play the campaign.
>>744623945i'm going to be honest, this is just as slow as the OP. it just has obnoxious music and flashing lights.
>>744625306>Halo 2>on PCIs there even a point to playing this broken piece of shit on anything?
>>744623945That's not even as fast as UT2004
>>744625530I never owned an xbox. All my friends loved Halo, I'd play it at their place but I never could sit down and play the full campaign. I loved Halo CE on PC so it was a shame I never got to play 2.
>>744622629This is the underwater level right?
>>744622629What is it? Looks like shit. And yes it's kinda slow.
I am 48 and i fell asleep halfway through ops mp4. FPS single player on roller has to be the single gayest thing in all of gayming.
>>744625724Someone bake this man an Ultima Underworld .webm immediately
>>744625590>I never owned an xboxProbably because you were a filthy Sony pony most likely.
>>744624682he's got zero shields and is really just a subtly augmented human above average physical peak, not the walking tanks with shields+armor that later Spartans were. spartan-Is aren't even really spartans, they just had the name christened onto the project retroactively due to the steps connected to later augmented soldier projects.
>>744625916Yeah I don't need much more than MGS Gran Turismo Final Fantasy Guitar Hero and Twisted Metal if I'm being completely desu with you. That was all side games anyways CoD and WoW were out by then.
>>744622746>braindead ai that pose no challengeHalo is one of the hardest FPS games ever
>>744624682SI's were test runs to try and figure out what augments won't just kill 100% of humans. And Mjolnir tests that pretty much killed/maimed anyone who tried them..Johnson being one is sorta retcon to explain how he survived being overrun by the Flood on Halo
>>744622629no you dont understand you need spastic movement and crazy effects going on at all times.
>>744622746Surely you're not talking about Doom and shooting cardboard cutouts?
>>744624771GS having this kind of weapon felt like a retcon. He never tried to do anything like this in Halo 1 and 2.
>>744622629the movement is slow but makes up for it with engaging stuff apparentlydid not know this was what halo levels were like
>>744625306MCC version worksThe lighting is kinda fucked in a few places but it runs
>>744622629I watched half the webm waiting for some kind of conflict or combat and all I saw was a guy plodding around listlessly squishing bugs which started to feel like it was going on for 20 minutes so I closed it
>>744622746Sorry, but you're DEAD wrong. Fps titles are still in the top 3, but you're way more held back than the rest of us to understand that. Sucks to suck, subhuman
>>744626441Did you even pay attention to the game?GS gives no shits except containment and he normally has Sentinels to deal with shit so he just does his thing.He lost his installation and was about to lose another one and went berserk since he keeps getting edged and not allowed to fire the Halo. Especially since during Halo 1 & 2 he respects chief as the Reclaimer he basically workshipsSuper AI robot given ability to shoot laser while being monitor of galaxy super weapons is not something that is hard to accept.
Please play Quake jesus christ
>>744627062i'll play both
>>744622746Legendary was hard for me in the third grade, which is when most people played this retard
I played halo for the first time two years ago and it was fucking garbage
>Halo CE on PC>that one never ending server, Battle Creek shotguns only, infinite grenade, CTF no shields Ah good times
>>744627062It's gotten to the point where the modern gamer has no recollection of what it was like when FPSes weren't consolized.
>>744626918He sure seems to give a shit starting from Two Betrayals.He could have tried a little harder to stop MC from blowing up the Pillar of Autumn engines.
>>744624228Halo is more like a sandbox than a puzzle game though.
>>744627338>Battle Creek shotguns only, infinite grenade, CTF no shieldsi miss it
>>744626336>Surely you're not talking about DoomMost of the Doom PWADs released in the last 20 years or so would fucking humiliate you if you tried to play them.
>>744626205Being an S1 isn't why he survived. The retcon is him using 500 plasma grenades in one fight made him a mutant freak that the flood don't want to eat.
>>744627486In two betrayals the index is inside Chief's headshoot big laser = melt chief = destroy index data
>>744626918>GS gives no shits except containment and he normally has Sentinels to deal with shit so he just does his thing.Always wondered what a Class 12 'combat skin' was if Master Chief's Mark V Mjolnir armor was judged to be just a Class 2 'combat skin' that GS rated it as civilian grade. Whatever a Class 12 was didn't help against the Flood back in ye old days.
>>744628790The class 12 suit has estrogen injectors, a jet pack, dildo interface (for use on the wearer), automatic castration and a 15 hour long, looping track of affirmations that you will be a woman
>>744622629>plap plap plap whack
>>744628619The Plasma radiation made him a mutated freak but not dead because of whatever S1 augments did whatever weird shit to his neurology that made him more resistant to the rads
>>744627486>He could have tried a little harder to stop MC from blowing up the Pillar of Autumn engines.If Human ship reactors are so dangerous that they can vaporize entire Covenant battlefleets, why do they bother with guns? Just make ships that are just overloading reactors with engines and fly them into Covenant fleet formations. Cortana wanted to overload the Forward Until Dawn's reactor to destroy the High Charity capital-world-ship and that thing was just half of a common light patrol frigate.
>>744622629Go play black mesa
>>744628985probably because they can't build them fast enough to have actual ships and suicide ships>just le only make suicide shipsThen the covies blow them all up before they get in range >pinpoint slipspace jump them int-Humans can't do that
>>744622629>Blows my mind that THIS is what some people are calling “slow”Play more games then you 80 IQ zoomerBecause holy shit was that boring
>>744622629Of course shit's not gonna be slow when you go around blasting grunts with the CE magnum.
>>744628402But are they good? Or do they just cater to autists who are obsessed with boomerslop?
>>744628985Human ships can't destroy battlefleets from self destruct in space.There was that thing in First Strike with the Nova bomb, but that seemed like some macguffin that isn't used anywhere i know of.I doubt the writers were thinking about this, but explosions fucking suck in space, no air to transmit pressure wave. In Amber Clad seemed to be in a pressurized area, so yeah the self-destruct will work a million times better.
>>744623705>Johnson is fucking deadHe's just sleeping
>>744629319>In Amber Clad seemed to be in a pressurized areaIt was likely to close to a set of reactors of that power High Charity (the shit you set off in halo 3) so even though the ship is small it chain reactions a bigger boom
>>744622629now try it without the mag
>>744622629Even Goldeneye is faster than this.
>>744629781Even Call of Duty 2 is faster than this
>>744623705Johnson is fine, he picked me up from soccer practice earlier: https://youtu.be/rgQNFwAkNfc?si=VTzXqQKHqv5VnFXa
>>744622629Post first time footage to help your case more, never works when you know level design and gameplay.
>>744622757Didn't some autist calculate that doomguy runs around at 60 MPH?
>>744622629is this slowed down
>>744624682he got hit with the gay eliminator beam and since he grabbed that elite's ass once there was no mercy
>>744630461man they should have hired this guy to be Johnsons new VA, he does a good enough job at it
>>744622629I don't understand the phenomenon of Halo. It must be a console thing.Halo is actually insanely plain and barebones mechanically, compared to shit like Half-Life.
>running straight forward through a series of hallwaysLooks like AI slop
>>744622629the ultimate test is walk in the middle of a room, let go of the controller, and see how long it takes to die. judging by that clip, it would take an embarrassing long time.
>>744622629>Can't outrun his own rocketsDo you need a wheelchair old man
>>744622746No. that's just Gaylo
>>744628619That’s a cover story created by Halsey to cover up how he survived the events of CE.
>>744625643that's Halo 2 mission Regret
I've been playing Hive Scum on Mortis Trials. This does look slow to me.
>>744622629It is, in fact, slow. Now watch and learn what's fast gameplay, straight from 1994.
>>744622629The narrative that the game was slow, was in the 2000s when it was compared to games like Doom, Quake, Unreal, etc. That narrative stuck and the posers that call themselves "gamers" started to regurgitate it without actually playing the game.
>>744622801I believe this is wrongI don't have a counter-example, and I'm not saying movement is bad in Halo CE, but my intuition says there is one better, if only for the all or nothing floaty jumping.
>>744622629DUDE WHAT A RUSH
meanwhile, earlier that yearhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqIdBvPWhPk
>>744634336Why did the ski shooter genre die?
>>744622629>Blows my mindCould you say... YOU WERE BLOWN AWAY!?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePLDO68lcA4
>>744633683I think it's super funny that all the "we are so hardcore and manly" quake-likes ended up becoming troonycore shooters like don't stop girly pop, ultrakill, etc. Every other speed movement shooter like this ended up fully estrogenized.Then halo devs became ultra woke but the halo fans stayed relatively normal. How the turn tables.
>>744622629>OP never played Quake 3kek
>>744634908In retrospect I wish no one had bought Quake With Less. It was a shitty product (prior games were both as good as it at multiplayer) and definitely a bad sequel.
>>744633683>it was only slow against arena shootersthat shit was slow even by 1.6 standards and 1.6 is slow by design. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eujEiK57gnw
>>744622629Slow as baby game with auto aim and regenerating health so console babies can feel special.
>>744635124that's the game without regenerating health, retard
>>744622930Or those who aren't on Adderall 24/7.
>>744622629>Using a rocket on a gruntFucking seriously?
>>744635161Halo has literally always had regenerating health, doesn't matter if it's a separate bar that says shields, retarded nigger
>>744622629This guy is playing as fast as you physically can in Halo 1 and it still looks pretty slow. If you play at all as how the developers intended (and are not forcing yourself to hold forward the whole time) it is even slower.Halo's campaign was decent because of the music, graphics, and hollywood-esque story telling that was novel back when it came out because games hadn't been filled with that yet. Halo now does not stand out at all, which is obvious by the fact that the last like 4 or 5 Halo games have sucked.
>>744635382343 Studios being comically incompetent notwithstanding.
>>744622629NIGGA WE ARE NOT CALLING GAYLO FAST
>>744635256>game has a health mechanic>health does not regenerate>THE GAME HAS REGENERATING HEALTH RETARD
>>744622629Yeah, that's ridiculously fucking slow.Halo is also one of the blandest games in history, which is why only consolefags actually liked it, while everyone else called it "babby's first fps".
>>744635597Nigger did I fucking stutter?>How Damage Works in Halo 1>Energy Shield: This blue bar at the top of your screen absorbs most damage and recharges fully when you hide for a few seconds.
>>744635597Halo 1 had both, so both arguments are shit. It was a transitionary shooter. It wasn't entirely old school Doom clone shooter, and was the basis for a lot of modern mechanics that still get used today. 2 weapon limits, regenerating health, auto-aim. You name a modern FPS mechanic, and especially one on console, and it's likely Halo 1 was the progenitor for it.
>>744622746Spbp
You experience 99% of what Halo has to offer within 5 minutes of playing the game. They had no idea how to make a video game and it shows.
>>744635161>Halo>THE console shitter, sorry, shooter that popularized regenerating health in mainstream vidya>doesn't have regenerating health
>>744622629I was going to hear you out but honestly that clip is pretty slow compared to some of Half-Life's shootouts, let alone modern stuff like the new Doom games or Ultrakill. Hell, I think even Bioshock is sometimes faster.>>744629042What this anon said, Black Mesa is a remake of an ancient FPS and it can still get intense at times.
consolefaggot brains are out of this world
>>744626094>playing against bots>hard
>>744622629Mogged by (the original) Marathon. Not just in gameplay but writing too.
>>744637219Having a blast there, xister? The comeback has to be studied.
>>744622629I like halo but that looks so fucking slow its annoying me just watching it. You're making it look 10x worse by trying to play it fast like doom or quake.
>>744637219This is my first time seeing gameplay of fartathon.This just looks like shitty destiny.
>>744625590The 2 campaign remake in the MC collection is probably the best one and it's still fun. I replayed it a couple years ago and was surprised at how good it was. The remake of the first game in that collection is awful and made me question if halo 1 was even worth playing.
>>744637219the gold mizzy is pure sexo
>>744622746Halo, CoD, and Dark Souls actually kicked off the "video games are hard" trend with journalists and the older generation. Playing on Legendary/Veteran was only possible for teenagers and college kids because no one had seen difficulty on that scale before in video games and boomers just couldn't beat the game.
>>744637219Playmobil game
>>744622629gaylo
>>744637781>CoD>HardCoD is likely as successful as it was by appealing to the widest possible audience, which meant it was often one of the easiest shooters on the market. It was also selling just as much for it's multiplayer as it was the singleplayer campaign, and difficulty there varies wildly based on the caliber of the people you're playing with.
>>744622746compared to what those boomer shooter whos only AI consist of see player kill? please these enemies actually think
>>744622746The guy playing is on easy or normalthis area is actually a bit challenging to get through on legendary, the AI actually changes its behaviour, like jackals will start forming shield walls on the higher difficulty and 2-3 of them have enough dps to put you down in one or a second or so, the elites get upgraded, there's more elites there, the grunts start chucking nades at you instead of dicking around tooI wouldn't consider legendary in halo 1 to be particularly crazy (that goes to Halo 2 for sure), but it's not a cakewalk.
>>744622801Yeah, it's very good. There's fall damage too, which actually put more skill into falling in the game than in the later ones where they got rid of it (worst decision they made for general gameplay next to fucking with the warthog physics). If you crouch just before hitting the ground you can survive bigger falls, and if you do it onto slopes, then a fall from any height above the auto-kill threshold is possible although you can end up sliding into a rock or something at high enough speed to die from that anyway.A fall from any height is also survivable if you land on an overshield pickup, which in the part the OP is at, you can specifically do to get from the entry area to the bottom immediately, but it ends up making the fight back up a lot more difficult unless you also grenade launch yourself back to the top with the overshield on.
>>744622757For as much as you can go stupid fast in them, the casual player of the time probably wouldn't have been straferunning or strafejumping. The former especially when most didn't have the memory to go using a mouse on a 386.
>>744622930Nobody plays quake or unreal anymore. The only recent game that was even remotely close to the same goesfast was titanfall 2 and respawn realized it was a bad decision to make the game that fast after their sales fell through the floorbecause there is no audience that plays shooters at that speed. They went on and made titanfall 3 except called it apex legends and made everyone move 'slow' (compared to the prior game anyway) and it was one of the most successful shooters of its time. Made them millions.Just a simple fact, it's just a tiny handful of braggart machismo retards who think they're internet tough guys for liking fast paced shooters, but you can't build a game for an audience of a slim handful of mentally 12 year old manchildren now entering their 50s reminiscing of the glory days of quake
>>744622629"Slow" is retard for "there aren't three abilities and an Ultimate I can spam over and over".
>>744638317>Nobody plays quake or unreal anymoreBecause console controllers cannot handle this level of speed and precision.It's the only reason why the fast-paced arena shooters died out in favour of slow, plodding chest-high-wall nonsense with regenerating health.
>>744625643there isn't an underwater level in halo 1unless you consider going underground to be going underwaterthe closest is probably the level captain keyes where there's coolant goop everywhere you can dive into
>>744622629>>744622729>>744635169>>744626314you guys need to understand that there are two camps to this, and most people don't get the boomer camp.zoomer camp is obvious since they want dash, slide, etc.boomer camp is actually the quake/doom camp, and they are used to a faster pace with autistic tricks to game the engine and max out their efficiency.Easiest thing I can compare it to is how high level 40k Darktide players that use daggers or similar will speedboost all over the place whenever they have a straight stretch to sprint in.
>>744622629who plays single player FPS? What year is it?
>>744622629Halo was the beginning of the war on games that Karen finds "weird", "childish", or "toxic". No boss fights. No gore. No rushing through labyrinths at breakneck speeds.It was the first FPS to do vehicles correctly, though. And while this became a banner for obnoxious theater kids who believe that gaming's matured form is Hollywood movie games to march under (combined with the aforementioned flaws), the story and world were pretty strong.
>>744626441Bungie lost the narrative plot from Halo 2 onwards, it never felt like the same story/atmosphere/setting that the first game was set in. Big walk back from the harder scifi takes and a big step into space operaWith that said the story developed ok, just not great. They never created whatever it felt like Halo 1 was leading towards, but something else entirely.
>>744638463Halo? No gore?What the fuck are you talking about, tourist?You can take ANY covenant enemy body and paint a room floor to ceiling in its bloodYou pass through entire sections painted with xeno blood while discovering the flood.Shut the fuck up.
where is his healthbar?i can't see anything moving when he gets hit
lol fag, play dusk if you dont want to play "old" games at least
>>744632803On normal/easy (which is what he seems to be playing on), in that area, like 15 secondsOn legendary or Heroic, he's dead in 1-2 seconds, maybe not even able to reach the middle of the room
>>744637891No CoD on Veteran is definitely Halo Legendary tier. The difference is the map sizes and length are much smaller and shorter, and the time to kill is very low against your enemies. But the player will die VERY fast on that difficulty, at least for MW1 and especially World at War was quite difficult. The last bonus level of CoD veteran is a 30 second mission notorious for being difficult to actually beat on Veteran.
This is why mods are good.Even fallout 4 can be a fast game if you multiply damage for both you and enemies by 500% and increase your movement speed by 300% at least.
>>744637610Just turn the shitty anniversary graphics off.
>>744638381Don't bother, consolecucks will never understand.
>>744638423>who plays single player FPS?People that don't like cheaters, for one.
>>744638381You're genuinely delusional m8quake/unreal etc were ok for their time but Halo blew them away, by a lotpeople like you who think boomer shooters really were all that, have had literally dozens of boomer shooters release and none of you play them. A total garbage widely panned and hated re-re-re-release of Halo 1 has more active players than the boomer shooters you think are so much betterit's been literal decades of you rocking back and forth hugging your knees telling yourself halo sucksI'm not even a console player, I got started on PC lmao 30 years agoI'm just not a delusional idiot like you
>>744622629it is slow but I don't mind it really, a console shooter with the speed and aim demands of something like quake and UT was gonna be tough, so they slowed down movement to make aiming and tracking easier on sticks.
>>744622801>Halo CE still has the best movement in any FPS game.You can't make claims like that and have only played console shooters. One session of Quake 1 would prove you wrong.
>>744638423Boot up the campaign and start playing instantly or spend an hour trying to find a match in a dead game no one plays anymore. Hard choice.
>>744638515Not him but CE is the only one with gore, which was toned down compared to Marathon's gore.
>>744638809>Thinks Halo "blew away" actual FPS games>I-I'M NOT DELUSIONALI don't have the training in psychology to deal with the level of delusion and retardation you're suffering, anon. So I guess all I can do is point and laugh.
>>744638915Yeah, but he said no gore and was talking about CE specifically.
>>744638809>normalfags love it, so it must be better!ur a faget
>>744638760>>744638925idiots.controllers have always been capable of it.halo did blow the old stuff out of the water, and you wrinkled fucks never shut up over it>>744638967the only valid point, based for a senile prune
>>744638925nta but in terms of integrating the story and contextualization of missions it is leagues above Doom and Quake. they just sort of dump you into levels, best you get a text crawl between episodes. this on top of having generally fun missions and easier gameplay and other console shooters contemporary with it and it's pretty obvious why Halo was such a big deal.
>>744639017Only an idiot would try playing Quake with a controller.
>>744639147Only an idiot would try playing Quake over Halo.
>>744622629it is slow
>>744638851quake's movement isn't goodit's super fast, it's fun to move around in, there's even a small genre of 'game' where people just complete platformer puzzles going fastbut that doesn't make it good, it doesn't make for engaging fights, the singleplayer isn't remotely designed around the speed, and the multiplayer is just twitch shooting barely better than jangling keys to yourselfit's simply not a very appealing style of movement, certainly not like tribes was, which imo is a contender with halo for best fps movement, whereas quake and unreal absolutely aren't even in the runningtribes and halo movement speed actually makes you think tactically about what you're doing and the length of time required to get around means there's time for things to happen in the interim. You can have small tactical fights in different parts of the map that actually mean something, instead of quakes teleporter high speed instagib railguns cross the map in 2 seconds gameplay which all of like 5 people worldwide enjoy (as further evidenced and time tested by titanfall and the litany of boomer shooters that tried to copy unreal and quake speed)Some of you just cannot accept that most people do not like quake's type of movement, and you've got such a chip on your shoulder, and an ego to match that you cannot stand people preferring anything else but the one game you were kind of ok at (with a competitive population of just the nerds in your college dorm + maybe 500 other people worldwide if you had decent internet) 30 years agoQuake and Unreal do not have good movement especially not for the rest of their gameplay, it's time we put you guys out to pasture and moved on from this.
>>744639270to be fair titanfall has its niche, but the quake/unreal crowd dont give a fuck about anything but those games.
>>744639218>t. born after DS
>>744639371there is no quake / unreal crowdnever was, really. even in 2000 cs dominated pc cafes. quake is a joke.
>>744639065I like when talking about story contextualization you deliberately refuse to bring up Half-Life that released 2 years prior.Halo was nothing PC shooters haven't seen before. It was just more streamlined for consoles.
The TRVKE you aren't ready to hear is Fortnite mogs Halo and Quake into the dirt. Why? Because it's newer and makes a lot more money. You Halokiddies aren't the target audience anymore. Halo made more money than Quake? Fortnite makes more money than both COMBINED.>But I grew up with Halo so it's better than Fortnite, NEW BAD!Now you sound like a seething Quake fag back when Halo was still relevant. Both of you need to go to a retirement home NOW.
>>744639584what kind of retard speak is this?fortnite about as dead as halo by this point
>>744639623It's still huge. It's just in decline.Halo, on the other hand, is a has-been franchise.
>>744639371I don't think titanfall has its niche either. I first played Titanfall 2, rather than the first one, and I liked Titanfall 2, but I could tell immediately the movement system, despite being quite good, and unlike quake/unreal was actually integrated into the gameplay mechanics, was still well beyond the capabilities of 95% of gamers. You could feel the player pop dying by the week.When the devs said they wanted to slow the gameplay down there was a huge backlash by players, prompted by the retarded quake/unreal "I'm so fucking good and special and amazing look at me" crowd, with a lot of people wanting to preen themselves and LOOK skilled and elite to other people more than they wanted a good game so they wouldn't back down and listen to the dev team trying to talk any sense into them.So titanfall 2 got big changes to player speed and kept themBut, I went and played Titanfall 1 eventually, and it was a night and day difference how much BETTER the movement mechanics of the game were at a slower pace. Still similar to titanfall, still all the mechanics worked fine, but it wasn't like spastic bunnyhopping across every single environment, it was a pace that felt good and felt like most players could handle it. Something between call of duty and its own thing.The "everything should be fast" crowd are a bunch of machismo poseurs who just talk shit online, that's all they've ever been. Like bragging about how many kills you got as a navy seal, but it's quake, and they don't even play quake or like it and don't play any quake-like games either. There's more braggarts than there are players of these games.It is literally just some dudes playing pretend tough guy online, that's all these discussions about fast vs slow movement have ever been.
>>744639017>halo did blow the old stuff out of the water, and you wrinkled fucks never shut up over itIt didn't though? You just like it because it's casualised garbage. You can't handle fast movement and need bright candy colored aliens and flashy colors to keep your attention.Hell, the level design in Halo sucks ass. It's just the same repeating structures and corridors over and over with no actual thought into the combat encounters, and your only argument is "Y-YOU'RE OLD!" so you don't even have an argument.
>all this thread thinking that "fast" is movement onlyyou guys are stupidif it takes a lot of time to kill a person that it lessens importance of reaction, thus makes the game slower.
>>744639468half life is a good example of that too, same thing with like Perfect Dark if we use console shooters as well. But halo was also a massive multiplayer hit, though in the case of 1 on Xbox it was a local only kind of deal. you seem to be taking my words as if Halo invented the concept, which isn't true and I never said as much. Halo's campaign is also more varied than Half Life's, where Half Life's biggest boon is the pretty singular focus and unbroken perspective, Halo is willing to break that perspective to give it a more cinematic feel, while also varying mission structure wildly to keep the gameplay experience fresh and exciting. Half life works by compounding on itself repeatedly, where Halo is more of a collage of different things convincingly connected by the narrative. If streamlining for consoles was the SOLE factor here Time Splitters would've had Halo beat, and we both know that isn't how that played out.
>>744639657so... like fortnite.which has no sequel and solely exists to prop up a VERY shitty competitor to steam.
>>744639623Cope Haloboomer, no one gives a shit about your old ass franchise anymore. Fortnite at its peak dwarfs Halo at its peak, and it's not even close. Even the Halo studio hates Halo LMAOOOOO
>>744639468Half Life 1 was ok, not great, but it was okHalf Life 2 was absolute garbage. Anyone who thinks Half Life 2 is a good shooter has genuinely played nothing but Half Life 2. It is easily one of the worst shooters I have ever touched, Ever. Fucking on rails arcade shooters you play at wonderland are more fun than HL2. It's a goddamn fucking slog to get through that game.
>>744638290Doom was built for mouselook, the keyboard only demographic is blown way out of the actual proportion by zoomies.
>>744639786damn did sweeny get triggered?
>>744639749Nobody plays Halo anymore, and I'd imagine that average FPS players under the age of 30 don't care about it at all. Fortnite still has a lot of players. It's just that the line is going down instead of up.
>>744639849so... just like halo.only UNLIKE halo you are pretending to be relevant... pffft
>>744639878Fortnite is relevant compared to Gaylo, yes.
>>744639904in what way?>no sequel>losing numbers>only exists to prop up epic games>no plans to improve it
>>744639926Makes way more money and actually has a playerbase. Look at Halo Infinite's numbers. But hey, at least it's not Quake Champions levels of dead, right?
>>744639990losing moneylosing playersapproaching halo infinite in numbers.and to top it off you can't even mention the newest halo attempt.I think fortnite kids are genuinely more out of touch than 343 somehow lmao
>>744639017>senile pruneWouldn't old/senile folks prefer a game with SLOWER gameplay?
>>744640065not when it comes to muscle memory.look up what some geezer MORSE code operators move like.quakeshit is simple enough its on the same level
>>744640021Still makes more money and has more player than Infinite. Hmmm, I wonder why I didn't mention the numbers for halo CAMPAIGN evolved... it's a mystery. (Also has poor player numbers and sales KEK)
>>744638317The post you were responding to never mentioned quake or unreal. It also never made claims about what is or isn't popular, simply answering the thread topic question. You've invented in entire argument in your head to have.
>>744639746ttk in quake is generally much longer than in slow shooters
>>744640120why?because you are an out of touch retard who thinks a dead game is relevant?just like halo is?calm down, kiddo>>744640139newfag sit down.you don't know this place or its people well enough.plenty of us knew EXACTLY what crowd was saying what because this isn't new to us.
>>744622629looks slow yea
>>744622629It is BABBY's first FPS, albeit a very fun one. I enjoyed it then, I still enjoy it today.
>>744622629>>744622746Post the SM64 gifYou know the one
>>744622629That is slow though?I think Halo is okay for sitting around with some friends and having a laugh, but I prefer PC FPS games. Half-Life for the story and general campaign, and Quake/Doom for fun, well made levels to explore and fight through. The community for those two games make some serious good maps and still do to this day.I think with some tweaking Halo could be a pretty good game, all they need to do is:Increase the speedImprove the AI (no, it's not good AI as it stands, elites input reading grenade throws is not fantastic AI)Touch up the maps a bit because fuck me they're bland and unmemorable as they are.
>>744622629looks just as fast as doom 3https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyAgEgx5AFE
>>744640286You haven't played a quake game in 20+ years grandpa
>>744622629Watching Halo go down in flames is bitter sweet. On the one hand, it was the flagship of the Hollywood invasion. If TLOU is the banner of the "modern audience" agenda, then Halo is the banner of its larval stage, the "wider audience" agenda.On the other hand, it reminds me of when the industry used to be able to tell stories for guys, and I had fun with the game at parties.
>>744640297Doom 3 is also the movie game bastard child of the Doom franchise.
>>744640317no, halo 1-3 just simply WAS appealing to the wide audience available at the time.and it went down in flames years ago with 4
>>744640314I played it last night, retard. Why wouldn't I play a good game? You really have no argument other than crying about people being older than you having actual taste.
>>744640286>>That is slow though?Do you even play videogames? Have you touched an FPS made more recently than 2008?Almost everything is halo 1 speed, it might be a bit faster or a bit slower, but nobody is playing anything like quake.
>>744640317That "wider audience" agenda is already 25 years ago. Also how is it exactly "Hollywood invasion" when it follows the same formula of the male-dudebro-power-fantasy-killing-all-bad-guys-in-their-path like every other FPS of its time? Did you meant it retards the mechanics by only giving players two weapons at a time and a rechargeable shield? Either way, like you said, it's a fun game.
>>7446404822 guns instead of every gun at once actually made halo more fun, not less
>>744640472>Do you even play videogames? Have you touched an FPS made more recently than 2008?Yes, and modern games fucked up by copying Halo's slow movement. Even modern Doom is slow as fuck by the original standards, it's like devs are allergic to fun, fast and fluid movement but with kids like you being the audience I guess they don't have a choice.
>>744622930>are people unfamiliar with pc shootersYes. Said by the faggot who regurgitates "claims" on subreddit or whatever. You probably didn't exist when Halo CE was first released on OG Xbox.
nobody cared about Serious Sam style gameplay until nu-doom copied it
>>744639786>LMAOOOOOyou're not a fortnite zoomie, you're a larper
>>744640369But I feel like we're coming up to the actual end. Everything tied to this franchise is in imminent danger of dying off, and this pathetic showing didn't help.What I mean is that Halo was held up as an example of what the industry needed to do to """grow up""", and this was going to be the industry's future whether gamers wanted it or not. The reason why Dark Souls and Minecraft became so deeply rooted in gaming culture was because it was the gamer's response to this unwanted industry mandate. We're back to mazes and boss fights with maximum gameplay. No, we don't care that it's overwhelming, inaccessible, and creepy for grandma.>>744640482The rot didn't happen overnight. It came in stages. Halo isn't as crazy and nerdy, made for guys without a care for what their stupid ass girlfriends think, as something like Doom. The "wider audience" agenda is like 1960s feminism. At its core it's the same agenda as the "modern audience", but they didn't feel quite confident enough to just come out and say that it's time for videogames to stop being unapologetically male-oriented.
>>744641008>actual endthe "actual end" never fucking mattered.all that matters is when you stopped and when you choose to say the franchise died.
>>744640297and Quake 2https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUbtMkeJtEc
>>744622629That's slow as shit, even compared to something like Counter-Strike, which is already considered slow.Also console aiming will never not be funny.
>>744622629
>>744633627you know you can shift run right nigga
>>744635597LEGENDARY HEROIC DIFFICULTY MOTHERFUCKER
>>744642447Top looks more immersive. Does more speed == more gooder o alog?
>>744642680No, but Doom and Quake are still better games, If you want immersion there's Duke 3d, System Shock, Thief, Blood, Hexen, Deus Ex, and any other number of first person game available around the same time as Halo.
>>744642454Anon, that's running speed you were looking at.
>>744639746>you guys are stupidwhy yes indeed i am>if it takes a lot of time to kill a person that it lessens importance of reaction, thus makes the game slower.If it takes a lot of time to kill you've got to make a mental calculation on whether or not you're going to win that encounter before engaging. It's not like quake where it's about map memorization, careening around and who clicks first. I compare Halo to a mech game or a tank game, the fights are slower but it's because you've got to use your brain, rather than just rely on twitch reflexes. You've got to calculate the angle and engage at the right moment or you'll lose the fight. I like twitch shooters like quake, call of duty, titanfall, apex, etc but they don't really compare to halo. It's better to compare Halo to Mechwarrior or World of Tanks because they play similarly, where positioning, timing and picking your battles is more important than barrelling in and clicking first. Reacting isn't unimportant in halo, reacting correctly can be the difference between life or death. If you react well in Halo you can still win an encounter even if the enemy gets the drop on you because it's not always about who shot first, it isn't the sole factor as it is in twitch based games where whoever presses L+R faster is the winner like a wild west duel (which mostly just boils down to who has the better internet connection imo). In halo if somebody gets off a charged plasma pistol attack on me and starts going in for the kill, I can still win that encounter by outmanoeuvring the enemy. This wouldn't be possible in other shooters because if I get clicked on I'm dead, there's tactics involved in Halo, that's why I prefer it to other shooters.
>>744642746
>Play as an engineered super soldier>Dies after being shot a few times>Can only carry 1 gun>Walks at the speed of snailThis is 'immersive' lol
>>744642746Halo and Half-life were the games everyone wanted before they knew they did, and it was the natural evolution of the genre. Doom and Quake are antiquated arcade games simply because no one really knew a better system, it was just the tried and true method. Bunny hopping though the levels weren't even the intended way to play them.
It doesn't surprise me that THIS is what some people are calling "slow"
>>744643303>and Half-life
>>744643303>Bunny hopping though the levels weren't even the intended way to play them.They were still faster even without the bunnyhopping. Halo looks slow just like other console FPS games because you can't aim as quickly with a controller so the game has to be slower.
Which version of Halo 1 should I play on PC if I don't want to make a microslop account?Asked this in a previous thread but had to bail out before I got an answer.
>>744622629>Blows my mindyou have nothing to blow, you are a drooling baitposting faggot
>>744643380Yes, Half-Life. Even on a modified Idtech engine you could still bunny hop at mach speed in Half-Life that Valve tried to remove in HL2 but some people still found a way to do it. It's just that most levels in HL1 are much smaller and contained than Dooms so you don't really get to use that speed to its fullest.
>>744622746multiplayer games lead to stale metas and tactics where everyone plays the exact same way in every match, an npc could have more variety.
>>744643203Furthermore, the main reason Halo: Reach shit the bed was because it shifted from the slow paced, methodical tactical style to being a twitch shooter. If you like CoD where the only strategy is to run in and click fist then Halo: Reach is your game, but to me it's barely a Halo game anymore because it abandoned the core design philosophy. Halo Reach plays like the bastard child of Halo and CoD where it doesn't really do either well and hangs out in this weird space inbetween. There still isn't a contempary Halo Game to fill that niche because the new halo games are just being shitty versions of other shooters rather than being the thinking man's shooter.*sips tea**adjusts monocle*
>>744643472>bunny hop at mach speed in Half-Life that Valve tried to remove in HL2Was disappointed with this when I replayed HL2 recently. Some gameplay elements were a good addition but the game felt slower and simplified in a lot of ways too.
>>744631730>and since he grabbed that elite's ass onceno no, first of all, it was the elite that grabbed Johnsons ass.
>>744638423Quake 3 doesn't count, that shit is closer to Dragon Ball than a shooting game.
>>744639830Biggest zoomer giveaway hands down, thinking people were playing Doom with keyboard only. Hell most people had a mouse by the time of Wolfenstein 3D
>>744626205I thought it was because he had some nerve disorder that fucked with the Flood's ability to interface with his body.
>>744640369It didn't matter what 4 was like, Halo boomers would never accept it regardless. They turned on Bungie in their last ever game of the series for including the option to sprint for christ sake.One of the shittiest whiniest fanbases ever
>>744644043>newfags desperate to invent fanfiction over trivialities
Is MCC worth picking up? Never played a Halo, was too busy with RTSes and shit as a kid
every single one of my gaming friends (at least 5) that love Halo are also absolutely dogshit at any competitive shooter we try to play like counterstrike or even casual stuff like cod. It might just be they are normies but still, really activates the almonds
>>744644080>boomers trying to pretend Reach having sprint doesn't make them seethe to this day
>>744622629I too saw the twitter post.
>>744644153>retards trying to invent fanfiction cannot readas I suspected lmao
>>744622629Hot damn even baby rail shooters player faster what the hell is this
>>744644083It's 6 games in one, so good value if nothing else. Halo 4 is... not great, but 1-3, ODST and Reach are generally very well made, fun campaigns.
>>744622629It's "fast" compared to what console players are used to now. It's "slow" compared to the FPS that came before (Doom, Quake, Turok, etc)
>>744638423looks like adhd tranny shit
>>744644030Yes that was this part of the discussion>>744626205>>744628619
>>744644245>the FPS that came before (Doom, Quake, Turok, etc)arcadey clunky shit that has zero realism or immersion
>>744644182>no we didn't spend 15 years whinging like retards about muh cod loadouts and sprint that's fanfiction
>>744644426>fanfiction retard invents MORE fanfiction>STILL can't read what was actually saidhilarious
>>744644362unlike Halo, the game set on 1k km-diameter ringworld where you fight aliens as a cyborg supersoldier in power armour.
>>744644445speak plainly or begone nigger
>>744623705heem sleepy
>>744644580>can't read>gets laughed at for it>thinks OTHERS are niggers
>>744623945I move faster as the Soldier in TF2. Rocket jumping veterans don't even see anything when they jump, only relying on single still frames to calculate their next move.
can someone explain why people are spamming Halo: CE all of a sudden? Did they shit out a demake for it?
>>744644863Yes, they remade it againCalled Campaign Evolved
>>744644917that's stupid, thanks for the qrd thoughhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo:_Campaign_Evolved
Who cares what others say niggaEnjoy the game
>>744645079they decided the stealth elites needed MARKERS above their heads, and to add an "odst" girlboss who doesn't wear odst armor and tries to act like the Master Chief is Beneath her.Also Johnson is now Steve Harvey
>>744622629Halo 1 is the closest to a classic FPS the series has ever gotten, and that's why it's the best one. 2 and onward were all way too linear and up their own ass trying to be movies that they removed the fun combat.
>>744643380To be honest, HL TAS also gets to move very fast.
>>744647281True, you can do some crazy shit with HL's singular good gun
>>744639270>but that doesn't make it good, it doesn't make for engaging fights, the singleplayer isn't remotely designed around the speed,This is wrong. You've said nothing. Doding ogre grenades and vore homing spike balls absolutely necessitates the speed and control the game has. You sound like you've played the first few maps on the easiest difficulty and nothing else.
>>744622746Halo is trash for normalfags. Single-player FPS games are excellent when you stray a little further from the most commercial and mainstream garbage available on consoles.https://youtu.be/lH2tw0aKGXo?si=t5jwDHMY26yzmhmS
Anyone got a good recommendation for a fast singleplayer FPS? I don't really play those, I've only played doom (all of them) and ultrakill
>>744637219why does every modern fps require the player to have some form of superpower
>>744622746Yeah the enemy should be human only and jump around like autistic retards that wear bright colored armor. I hate multiplayer because it breaks immersion and enemy variety. Plus multiplayer games become pure cancer several years after release and eventually get their servers shut down.
>>744647747Cause it's fun
>>744630461>Now gets some sleep it's a school night.
>>744622746He is killing grunts, elites are extremely common and they are hard as fuck to kill in halo 1.
>>744648131Naw they're pretty easy
>>744633627Someone post the rat speed run the maze.
>>744647680Play the Titanfall games. The bonus is that the stories are great too.
>>744648231Thanks, a friend of mine got me titanfall 2 but we never got around to playing it. Do I have to play the first one before the second one?
>>744647680Quake (Using either Alkaline or Arcane Dimensions). The base game is okay, but the maps are small and are always some form of dark castle. Quake with fan maps shows just how fast and good the gameplay can be.
>>744648321You don't have to play the first one, the only thing you'll really miss by jumping into the 2nd one is that there's a few references to the first game here and there, but that's about it.
titfuckfall 1 and 2 is a shit cod clone
>>744648348I always assumed that quake was a mainly multiplayer game so I never bothered. I'll give it a shot>>744648403thank you man
>>744643226I love how this was recently made by some Halo fag out of anger over the original meme. It's not even done well, you didn't bother to remove the DOOM title under it.It sums up the amount of effort you faggots put into anything, no wonder you think halo is the better game.
Can we please stop referring to Halo CE as a game? It was 4 copy pasted levels that you played forwards and backwards, that's not a game it's a glorified tech demo. 2 was the first in the Halo franchise
>>744648460Quake 3 is a multiplayer game.Quake 2 is a decent enough sci fi shooter that's single player orientatedQuake 1 is the one that gets all the mods and maps, and it's a vaguely horror themed single player FPS. Arcane Dimensions is a huge level pack made by professional level designers who enjoyed Quake as teenagers and wanted to make something cool, so it's normally recommended as the best Quake experience.
>>744648582>Quake 3 is a multiplayer game.Now I get why I thought that, thanks man
>>744634874The entire speedrunning community has trooned out, so it's not that weird that games that allow you to move fast got swallowed up by the same crowd. I guess Sonic is the exception, but then those games are much more linear in their speed
That shit is as slow as a tortoise like bruh there's a reason why everyone loves the driving since it actually speeds up. If you are being genuinely serious then you gotta be ancient, no reflex halo only sort of guy, like if that's your thing that's your thing but don't go around saying halo is anyway fast.
>>744639830If doom was built for mouselook why did it have only horizontal tracking? Quake was the first FPS I could actually look up or down with.
>>744640564>never touched reddit>I'm in my 30sNot only did you managed to be wrong twice, but I'm wondering how my post managed to piss you off like this.
>>744624682>Isn't he a fucking 1st gen Spartan?I hate how every fucking joke character has to have some 8D chess explanation for why they're so bad ass. Can't he just be a jobber who got lucky?
>>744622629If it isn't disgusting shitcore zoomer 99999bpm music with an extremely high FOV and ADHD-riddled speed levels of gameplay, they won't even touch it.
>>744642447>comparing average halo gameplay to whatever the fuck is going on in the bottom two videosmaybe 3% of the population plays doom and quake like that
>>744622746Put all multiplayerjeets into a blender. If you're not trolling I hope you die in a car crash.
>>744636013Halo: CE has a small regenerating shield but otherwise uses a standard healthbar
>>744622629what people say when they mean "fast" is actually just movement speed anon.there is little regard for pacing or the rhythm of combat, as long as you get to zip around and blast braindead enemies it doesn't matter if the game slows to a mind-numbing halt in-between.
>>744649703>have no idea what average doom gameplay is like>go to youtube>search for "first time playing doom">click a video with a woman in the thumbnail>after a few seconds get actual brain damage watching her playwell that was a mistake
>>744643723he let it happen, so it was still gay.
>>744649917>click a video with a woman in the thumbnailwhy?
>>744626094Zoomers just dont know Halo, that's why they respond with extraction shooter #10
>>744650018It was the first video not of nuDoom
>>744640173>plenty of us knew EXACTLY what crowd was saying what because this isn't new to us.Retard, I was the one who made that post. PC shooters in general were faster than that, arena shooters were simply the extreme of it.And again, simply answering the question. Is the gameplay in the OP webm slow? Yes it is.
>>744650215this sounds like man-ass levels of cope.
>>744650351ok
>>744649406play it without a modern source port and then look up and then take a picture of your vomit stained keyboard
>>744622629Unc time to put you back in the retirement home.
>>744650607I'd just like to point out that someone discovered ages ago the youtube algorithm pushes you if you put a soiface in the thumbnail, that's why it's all over. Even youtuber hate that shit and find it embarassingExcept women of course, they love the attention
>other series - enemies look scary and awesome>Halo - enemies all look like nerdsI can't help feeling this entire series is designed to give eight year olds the sensation of being the biggest baddest dude, without them having to do very much
>>744622746fax, they should play air fortress
It's insanity how shit it is, Hce proves that the average gamer has always been a retarded idiot
>>744622629Even when just using console FPS this looks slower than Turok, GoldenEye, Perfect Dark, and TimeSplitters.
>>744639270>the singleplayer isn't remotely designed around the speedQuake has single player?
>>744650716modern ports are wokei vomit from seeing this shit too
>>744622629You're not playing on legendary thoughlegendary IS slowI played on legendary and enemies are just bullet sponges and I don't deal damageIt was.. very underwhelming. Anons HONESTLY recommended me to play on legendary, and I did, but ended up not enjoying the game at all, was a slogthey said shit like 'oh, it's canon, it simulates the real hardship master chief faces', but I bet these fuckers did not actually play it on legendaryhelp me anons - is that the case? I haven't played halo 2 yet and I don't feel like doing it, at least not on legendaryit wasn't hard, just tedious. So much fucking standing and shooting
>>744643991I'm a zoomer but my school was cutting costs and we had these ANCIENT yellowed pcs, they had ancient mouses with balls in them and we played warcraft 3 and doom when teachers were not looking - I loved it
>>744639270>reddit spacing>absolute terrible zoomer opinions
>>744651312>ancient mouses with balls in themI do not miss those horrid days.
>>74464399193fag here, i was using keyboard only until 2010 when i learnt about sourceports from that one SO YOU WANNA PLAY SOME MOTHERFUCKING DOOM imagei will never go back, and i will never play at the original framerate again, fuck mouselook though, it does make the game a joke though, i can blast through the originals with no problem now, wouldn't even dare to touch something as easy as scythe with KB only
>>744650838back when AVGN changed all his thumbnails to soiface
>>744650980Halo has always felt like a Saturday morning cartoon in terms of design and visuals. Hearing retards gush about the books is always funny too, because the plot and setting are a mash of several classic sci fi settings by famous sci fi authors that Bungie shamelessly ripped off. Of course, the 14 year olds breathlessly glazing the "novels" have no fucking clue about this so they think it's well written and thought out.
>>744650838The new tech: If a video has a person in the middle with text on both the left and right to them, the video is woke dogshit DO NOT view it
>>744651240halo is only fun in co-op, doesn't matter what difficultyeven halo 2 on heroic i could barely finish the first level, and that was already after dropping it down from legendary after 10 minutesi don't understand how people claim halo is easy as shit even on legendary when an elite can just spray you with plasma in half a second and you're dead, lets not even get fucking started on how insanely bullshit beam jackals and brutes are
>>744651850>halo isn't fun>I got immediately filtered btwclassic
>>744639270You clearly haven't played Quake or Unreal to be piping up with this crap. Then you go on to defend walking in treacle for some reason, I'd call your post bait but the fact you went ahead with writing a mini essay means you likely believe the utter shite you're spouting. I just take it as proof that modern gamers are braindead morons and "people" like you are why games are all slow movement and yellow paint.So thanks very much, Mongo.
>>744651850>Halo is only fun in multiplayerYeah, I'd agree. But then anything is fun in multiplayer.
>>744651240Ducking retard, heroic is literally the intended difficult, it's right there on the fucking menu
>>744651962>REEEEE why it's not like my quake and unrealFuck off, it's like it's a different game almost
>>744652107>why it'sOkay Pablo
>>744622629It IS slow, but I fail to see how that's actually a bad thing. Bear in mind I actually enjoy fast movement shooters like Quake and Titanfall 2, but there's hardly an audience for fast FPS games anymore while tactical shooters like Counterstrike are still alive and kicking. Slow is a style, a style most people by the numbers seem to genuinely prefer, not a flaw. We don't need to make deceptive webms that showcases Halo in a way nobody actually plays it out of insecurity. Quake 3 doesn't scratch the itch of riding in a warthog with the boys and throwing sticky grenades at grunts that run into their own guys, Halo doesn't scratch the itch of strafe jumping at mach speed and juggling people with a rocket launcher. It's tiresome to see these apples to oranges comparisons still going 20 years later.
>>744652107I was responding to a retard shitting on Quake and Unreal's movement system, you illiterate retard.
>>744622629It IS slow, but that's also the point, you're a hulk of a man in a giant armour.
>>744638423fucking retarded, no wonder cs is the king of fps
I may not like Halo and prefer PC shooters but I still feel bad for the fans for the state the franchise is in. I've seen my own favourites die and get treated like shit, so I know that feel all too well.May there someday be a good spiritual successor for you to love almost as much, bros.
>>744651240>>744651850No wait sorry anons I fucked up - I played on heroic, yeahI played on heroic, not legendary>>744652019Is it really the intended mode? It was fucking abysmallike it involved me fucking ducking around cover like a retard and shooting fuckers over and overI didn't even die a lot, it just took a while to get through any area
>>744628402And you would get humiliated if you tried LASO
>>744649406>IfThere's no if
Does Halo get mods and fan maps/campaigns like the other big shooters of yesteryear? Doom and Quake may be shat on in this thread, but they still have active communities working on them and producing content.
>>744651119That's not woke, that's "if we don't change it, we get sued"
>>744652148Lmao, the fuck are you from? Do you know what a school is?
>>744622629bro hasn't seen how twitchy and adhd coded modern games arehave you been living under a rock for the past 15 years or so? if there isn't an explosion or dash or some other screen shake every second it's fucking S L O W
>>744652667Question sentences invert the noun-verb orderBut you're just baiting since you're now pretending not to be ESL so no more (you)s
>>744627062>go play episodic "clear the level" shooty mcbangbangCan you drive a tank in Quake? No, you fucking can't.
>>744651119Where the fuck did you see that? I use GZDoom, Nugget and DSDA and all my healthpacks are the old red cross.Are you playing the nightdive remaster or something? You ARE using the original, uncensored IWADS, right?
>>744622629noooo you must bunnyhop and abuse the game engine to travel at the speed of light and kill 2000 cyber mecha demon mutants by firing rockets at them that hit the target by the time you've already reached the end of the level and load into the next one
>>744652823In all fairness you can't, but I've played Halo and you get that tank for five minutes before having to leave it for more slow trudging and it's rare to ever get one in the first place.
>>744652639The premise for why they claim it has to be changed is woke. "Extremely low IQ 'people' in third world countries might get confused if there's a red cross in a video game."
>>744652823So your solution to the game being slow as shit is to drive a slow as fuck vehicle?
>>744652613Of course it doesn't. Halo doesn't even really have a community to get together and make mods and campaigns. But /v/ is /v/ so this thread is mostly contrarian third worlders acting like a console shooter is hot shit because they can't afford PCs.
>>744622629moving in molassesconsole fps cucks will always be the most subhuman freaks around
>>744628941Did it also cause Sgt Johnsons premature ejactulations?
>>744652936Maybe, but that's not a decision the devs made. The devs just don't want to be sued
The question isn't "is it fast" the question is "is it fun".
I like slow because the impacts and reactions just feel more weighty and reactive. Why do people like fear? It's because half that game you're crawling in slow motion and you feel every shot you take, every enemy you kill and i feel like i have more control of the encounter on a tactical level than just simply reacting to things.
>>744652787
>>744653228But those answers overlap. It's why NuDoom isn't fun. It's practically turn based (which isn't fun).
>>744653460This. I'm not shitting on Halo for arbitrary reasons, I find it slow and unfun. NuDoom has the same problem, and worse in that games case, id Software KNOW IT. They added a dash you can spam to go fast, and a powerup to return Doomguy's old speed for a while. They know they made him slow but didn't do the obvious thing to fix it.
>MODERN GAMES ARE SO SLOW>oh so you must be amazing at them since they feel like playing in slow motion for youthen they suck ass at the modern games
>>744642447>Doomguy skipping most the enemies>barely even aiming at the ones he does kill
>>744654354I know the bitrate is low but maybe you should get your eyes checked
>>744654637Watch the two kills from 17-19 seconds.
>>744654354oh its autoaim basically.
>>744655007On the Y axis, since you can't look up or down in Doom.
>>744649417microsoft and halo fanboys are some of the dumbest people in the hobbypeople often forget that halo was the designated "dumb jock FPS" before CoD4 Modern Warfare took the crown
>>744622801>floaty bullshit movement with no weight to it>"best movement in any FPS game"This is why no one takes Halo fans seriously, you say the most retarded and incorrect shit with extreme confidence
Do you think in 20 more years we'll have the 60~ year old doom uncs still arguing with the 50~ year old halo kiddies
>>744652107ironic for a halo fan to say that
>>744656361As long as shooters continue to be in the rut that they've been in the last 10-15 years, 100%.
>>744622629where's the erratic camera weapon swapping webm?
>>744626205>retconBut he was in his late 70s and never aged past 40, and also the mjolnir project happened only decades before. Cohencidence?
>>744651342>reddit spacingThat's not reddit spacing. Reddit spacing is putting a line break in between a quote and the rest of your post because reddit makes you do that.
>>744656669Reddit spacing is literally double spacing the entire post. You have to shift-enter to do normal spacing.
>>744655995who the fuck wants movement to be weighty? What does that even besides just delaying your controls
>>744656739incorrect. paragraphs are not an invention of reddit. reddit uses the exact same quoting mechanism as 4chan but you need to add an extra line between the quote and the rest of your post or else the entire post will be a quote. that's why it sticks out because other sites including this one don't do that.
>>744659943One sentence is not a paragraph dumb jeet
>>744660085why don't you scroll back a couple posts to find the one that was accused of being reddit spacing you dumb illiterate nigger
>>744654354>barely even aiming at the ones he does killThat's frame interpolation making instant turns much smoother than they actually are. Under the hood it looks something like this.
>>744637219>all that UI vomit cluttering the screen during gameplayhow do people play this garbage?
>>744652613Halo has a forge mode which lets you create custom maps yes. It didn't let you place enemy AI so it was just limited to multiplayer. Still a ton of fun. Was extremely active in the 3 and Reach era around 2007-2011 but still exists today.>>744653057Have no clue what this spastic is on about. Genuinely retarded. Forge is one of the most iconic parts of Halo
>on the rest of the internet most people who like old school shooters like halo>on /v/ there is an eternal war between boomer shooters and halofunny how everyone complains about halo which is a particularly unique game with virtually zero gameplay clones, but nobody ever complains about the litany of arcade-y army guy shooters that are the actual cause of the genre's degeneration
>>744651342paragraphs are not reddit spacing you larper mongoloid.
>>744622629>infinite regen shield>casual stroll speed>2 weapon limit>integrated aimbot ror paraplegic console usershalo murdered fps forever
>>744651767>Hearing retards gush about the books is always funny too, because the plot and setting are a mash of several classic sci fi settings by famous sci fi authors that Bungie shamelessly ripped off.Yeah but in 2001 it was not uncommon to play games that ripped off other stuff and turned them into a good game. We knew Halo was Alien vs Predator vs Robocop and we knew Conker's BFD was a long ass Stanley Kubrick parody, and we knew Metal Gear ripped off a bunch of 80s/early 90s action movies too, but we still had fun with both.
>>744638784>everytime I lose, others are cheatinglol, back in my day we blamed "lag"
>>744661695>Making multiplayer maps for a dead game nobody plays is the same as single player contentLooks like you're the spastic here. Genuinely retarded. Making fun of you Halo fanboys is like shooting fish in a barrel, I almost feel bad doing this.
>>744622629i grew up with quake 1&2 and starwars dark forces 2, both online, way faster gameplay then halo shit
>>744622746why are you pretending like you're in a high enough ELO in literally any game ever made like the people you're playing against aren't exactly as braindead as these ai? you are a faggot.
>>744622629people legit play this on heroic and see nothing wrong with it
>>744633627> set aprop_friction 50Yeah, I know this magic too.
>>744622629Robocop in that recent game feels faster than this. Chief is doing power walking in that clip.
>>744622629the two weapon limit is the worst thing to have happened to FPS gaming and I blame all of that on Halo, fuck that franchise
Bleach is the root of all.
>>744664737AAAIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>744663361CounterStrike did it first.
>>744622629The halos afterwards are indeed slow.
>>744659943This is how a 4chan posts looks.There's a single space.It ends up looking like this.>vsThis is how a reddit post looks.You're a big faggot if you type like this.I don't see why you want that much space.Maybe it's because you lick cocks.
>>744665019nah
>>744665019yah
There needs to be a filter for copy & pasted twitter posts. Fuck off.
>>744665784And how did you know it was from twitter, hmmmmm?
>>744622629>no backpack reloadFake gamer detected
>>744665897I use Twitter. What now faggot?
>>744666523I don't, therefore I am superior to you.
>>744666523BOOOOOOOM
>>744663361Soldier of Fortune would limit your weapons the higher the difficulty
>>744666571congrats on stealing the tweet and pretending you dont use twitter then?
>>744666672I don't even know which post ITT you were referring to when you said it was stolen. I simply pointed out your hypocrisy, stemming from your own subhumanity. Have a great day
>>744666571You instead use the website where 90% of all OPs are discussions started on Twitter by grifters. You, in a sense, are using a worse version of Twitter.
>>744622629He's sprinting all the time as was typical in most classic FPS games but retards don't acknowledge that since the visual feedback of constant screen shake and arms flying around doesn't exist.
>>744666736Is OK to admit you stole the tweet because you wanted attention since you daddy hasn't talked to you in decades.
>>744622746I know like lmao imagine finding difficulty in putting the reticle on enemy and pressing the fire buttonFPS tards can't even do that lmao
>>744661743I played Halo after playing through FPS games and I enjoyed it. No idea what the fuss is all about.
>>744666830You've done her>>744666736She's done you
>>744654865>>744661617>>744642447Halo was the spiritual successor to Marathon which as DOOM's competitor on the Macintosh. Also nobody plays Quake like that on the bottom. That's just speedrunner autism.
>>744667101NOOOOOOO ITS FAST WHICH MEANS I ALSO GET TO PLAY LIKE THAT AND I WAS PWNING NOOBS WHEN I WAS 14 THEY WERENT BOTS IN NOVICE DIFFICULTY!!!!
>>744637903whose unfinished blender model of cortana is this
>>744667101>Also nobody plays Quake like that on the bottom. That's just speedrunner autism.Quake 1 maybe, but plenty of people play Quake 3 like that. I know because I've played against them. Airborne momentum can be scaled indefinitely on that, so people turn off self damage from explosions and use rocketjumps to boost themselves at speeds that make the game look like a Dragon Ball Z fight. Some dude just flies past above you so fast you barely notice him and you are railgunned down, then he keeps rocket boosting himself around and around the map. Shit is insane.
>>744667101Why does any of this matter when the matter at hand is "why did real gamers call my console dogshit slower"?
Nobody plays Quake 3.
>>744667595I did find it funny how the girl with the big ass is in the same level as the guy thats an eye ball at ground floor so hes always looking at it from below
>Put footage of Halo next to Quake 2 and Doom without comment>Halo fans start crying for some reason
>>744667837Her lumbar lordosis is unhealthy.
>>744667837Orb is my favorite character.
>>744639267I keep forgetting how incredibly, beautifully autistic Deus Ex MP is.
>>744663092What are you talking about? The game is running as intended.
>>744669297There's even no headbobbing in your previous webm.
>>744622629how is it not slowhalo has to be the most overrated boomer game evereven quake came out a decade before this
>>744643441https://www.proxeninc.net/Halo/Refined/
>>744634874Fuck. I don't wanna become estrogenized. What are the absolute slowest games I should play to rejuvenate my test?
>>744644362>clunkyOpinion discarded.
>>744649680Based zoomies have taste unlike aging Halo uncs.
>>744638317>titanfall 2 was the last go fast shooterYou're so out of touch it's crazy
>>744652936Red cross would sue the fuck out of them if they kept the red cross in. That's not woke, it's protecting themselves from red cross.
>>744622629looks fast pace to me. unc grow up.
>>744652998Consolecucks are retarded.
>>744656361Halo kiddies are uncs now too. Both mogged by Fortnite btw.
>>744637801Id rather the normies have their own containment game thanks...
>>744622629The idea of someone looking at Halo gameplay and going, "what a breakneck pace" is so fucking dire. The industry really has shriveled the fuck up.
this is the most pathetic thread I have ever seen, you people have wasted your lives
>>744638661I believe it was BlOps Cold War that had the "Realistic" difficulty where you die in a single shot
>>744622629>>744622729I don't even play Halo and even I know that playing on anything below Heroic is shamefur.
>>744676785you talk like a fag and your shit is all retarded
>>744639270trvke they can't rebvke
Damn, console babbies got mindbroken hard
Reminder that this is /v/s favorite fps
All this talk of Quake movement and not one of you has mentioned surf maps. For SHAME, /v/.
>>744622629This is slow. Even Marathon is faster.
>>744627338>>744627542>Blood Gulch>All vehicles>CTFhome
>>744680628>FEAR is slow when you play like a complete retard>Halo is always slowWhat was your point?
>>744681932FEAR is always pretty shitty. It's not much better than Halo.
>>744681932He's playing FEAR perfectly, taking zero damage. There is no higher level of play than that webm.
>>744681932How do you not play FEAR slow? How is that playing like a retard?
>>744622629>Blows my mind that THIS is what some people are calling “slow”
>>744622629This looks like absolute shit. You look like a downie when you turn
>>744634874How is ultrakill tranny?I have not played since layer 4 did they add woke?
>>744683118it was tranny coded from day 1
>>744683227It's a christian game
>>744683264satanic*
>>744683307yeah satanists are just edgy emo Christians Same mental illness
>>744638423Me, I'm not playing with you.
>>744680628At least they're actually using the slow pace for gameplay purposes by having enemies hide in the shadows. I haven't played Fear, but I'm guessing that you're not a bullet sponge and that you get punished if you miss them.The biggest point of contention with western AAA is that gameplay is something that they consider childish and that they begrudgingly put between cutscenes so that the game can technically be called a game. The reason why game journos love Mixtape is because that's what the future of gaming was supposed to be. I'm not saying that Halo is Mixtape, but from the perspective of both the game journos and the people who can see what western AAA is trying to turn gaming into, Halo was a big step away from 90s gameplay towards Mixtape.
>>744643380Kek
>>744666974the real problem are the halo general shitposters from /vg/
>>744648487what WAS your first FPS then?
nothing wrong with halothere IS something wrong with trying to bring back its dogshit gameplay over and over...and over again as if anyone gives a fuckconsolecucks were WRONG to call it good when it came outand theyre wrong nowthey never knew better anyhowtoday its embarrassing to keep pretending time to wake the fuck up
>>744635597it does though
>>744622930Wow
>>744622746You would get raped by a chess AI
There's a reason when it came out people on this board were calling Halo babby's first FPS. 2 weapon limit, slow movement and floaty ass jumps, but now it's old so there's a movement of nostalgiafags looking at it like the gameplay was ever good.Halo is good, but it's mostly because of the music and how cool the bigass levels looked. Actually playing the game is boring.
>>7446861142 weapon limit meant you had to think about what you were going to do and what enemies you're ready to fightslow movement meant you had to think about the fight you were going to get into and the cover available for itThese are not bad things, they are good things. I like games that make me think about a fight before the fight happens.All you do in quake and unreal and most of the new boomershooters is twitch click like you're playing a different sort of cookie clicker.Halo is good because they actually put thought into making the whole gameplay system cohesive. You have melee, grenades, limited weapon selection, every fight is novel as the enemy selection is randomized and every enemy type has completely different behaviour with that behaviour changing with the difficulty settings. You don't do or have any of this in the boomer shooters. All you have is WOW LOOK HOW FAST SHAPES ON THE SCREEN MOVEGenuinely like that retard watching glowing lights slackjawed
>>744686114Underage revisionism is the worst. 4chan didn't even exist when the game came out and a bunch of seething faggots shitting on whatever is popular whether it's actually good or not is nothing new.
>>744627062Quake sp is slow as shit because the enemies are so tanky
Blows my mind that people who were told "maybe halo/call of duty is more your speed" actually went and played those shitty games and now look back on them fondly.
>>7446861144chan didn't even exist when Halo CE released you tourist nigger
>>744687131>I need my game to aim up for me>but hey at least I can run like sonic and stairs and ledges are cosmetic only
me run into big booby of sangheili wife.........let it be slow.........slow like big bounce of alien booby.........
>>744686540>Plays a slow game>Makes up a bunch of shit about it being tactical and tried to imply the AI is good>Has the nerve to call people who play the skill based FPS games he clearly has never touched retardsHalo was seen as the dumb dudebro console shooter of it's time, and it hasn't changed. You can make up nonsense all you want, but you aren't skilled or intelligent for playing that garbage, and it's funny you're saying all this while having extreme confidence in your wrongness.
Yeah, Halo is so much better than Doom, which is why Halo gets all those custom single player mods and campaigns and Doom has been left to rot... Oh...
>>744687591There's more mods for rimworld than doom. What's your point exactly? That easy to mod PC games get more mods than console games?
>>744687504He says as literally the only aspect of doom that's "skill based" is how fast you move on a flat plane. The enemies all move the same way, they shoot the same way, all the weapons work basically the same way the only real differences being the projectile speed, there's no real verticality. I played doom before you were even born, as did millions of others who enjoyed halo and thought it was good and fun
>>744688368actually, the most challenging levels of doom are tight maps where doomguy's speed won't allow you to just outrun projectiles. You have to play kinda slow and methodically on those, like EP4
>>744622629I assume you are posting bait.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sxSkiC8EEY>>744622757even ut99/2k4 are much faster and have walljumping / dodge jumping / etc
>>744639270tribes there is an argument for.halo there simply is not.just because you are appealing to the masses doesn't make it superior.candy crush would be the greatest game of all time, if so.
>>744640423what fucking level is this filename says "shib7" but that brings me to other things that are not this map.
>>744689570>it's babbys first fps and everyone was laughing at it>noooo you can't appeal to its popularityfuck off retard
Halo looks slow as hell mainly because the FOV is tight, the characters arms aren't swinging, and Chief is a 7.5ft tall super guy. You are actually moving faster than most athletes can sprint.
>>744686114>2 weapon limit, slow movementCounter Strike did that and is the most hardcore competitive pc fps there is
>>744687504Tell me which fps isn't dumb. The genre is made for retards on purpose. Go play an rts or sim.
>>744622746Multiplayer is for unemployed thirdies. You have to grind for hours every day before it gets "fun." No thanks.
>>744662619>dead game nobody playsWe're talking about Halo not your boomer shooters (which Halo killed btw lmao seethe harder)People who aren't autistic spergs typically prefer playing with others so the community never had a problem with this. They could just play the campaign if they wanted single player content, which are some of, if not the best, fps campaigns of all time. Hope this helps.
>>744662828Its the only fun way to play the game. Legendary stinks, just brutes and elites tanking entire mags to the face and melting you in a half a second so you're forced into using like 3 guns to stand a chance
>>744691121And cowadoody killed gaylo.
>>744687591Do you think your shitty Doom single player mods that like 200 people play in total made by the same handful of spergs is a dunk on Halo? Probably the biggest franchise in the world through the whole 2000s
Halo? More like, bye bye!
>>744691382Partly. The generation that played it grew up and moved on anyway. Halo was for white american guys. The gaming audience today is chinks and third world browns
>>744684287Marathon (2026), chud.
>>744686540>2 weapon limit meant you had to think about what you were going to do and what enemies you're ready to fightENTER
>>744691561And now no one gives a shit about it anymore. Not even the Halo studio, in fact, they hate Halo.
>>744686540>Noob combo in your path
>>744691561Doom dunks on Halo because people actually bother to make shit for it. When was the last time an actual Halo map released?
>>744686694Halo came out 15 years before 4chan launched to talk about the election.
>>744692716This is some weird assed cope
>>744622629The gameplay isn't slow, just the walk speed in relation to it. The lack of any kind of sprint + the incredibly slow base speed just shows its age a lot. I didn't even notice this playing it on xbox as a kid but when I went back years later and tried it again it was crippling flaw that ruined it for me. I'm not saying a game has to have sprint to be "good" but the base speed could have been 15-20% faster with no downside. I just don't understand why its like this at all.
>>744692716Check the Steam Workshop for MCC. I don't think Halo fans care about mods as much as Doom fans though.
>>744693046Older games on simpler engines are infinitely more moddable than newer ones, it's just that simple. This idea that the game sucks/isn't popular because it doesn't have shit tons of mods is a total non sequitor
It was no Doom back in the day. I assumed that was fixed in in the remaster.
>>744693046>Check the Steam Workshop for MCC.I do, because I actually play MCC a bunch. The only maps really coming out are for Halo 1. Probably because it's the easiest to work with, but every other game is dead. 3 gets the occasional map, but the majority of stuff released are just campaign rebalances or ports.
>>744694541It's a shame Halo 3 Combat Evolved will never get finished since it got cancelled. Halo 4 Reclaimer aims to fix the art direction so it actually looks like a Halo game, but the art direction is only one of many problems Halo 4 has. Now imagine if someone tried to remake Marathon in Halo 3's engine...
The bump limit has been reached.
>>744622629>they call this slow>it's slowYeah
Halo has a quarter of a century legacy of being boring dogshit.
>>744692489At least they did at one point. No one ever cared about your boomer shooters.
