The wrong kid died
>>744624665Tag yfw taking a shit I’m top left
>>744624665Left's rhino and right's venom
>>744624665I prefer the psx for everything besides cat and mj.
>>744624665>psx vs dreamcast>still looks basically the samelmao
>>744625623thats the ps1 not the 10
>>744624665uncs really do be looking at two ugly pics and saying>right/left is better
>>744624665Let's not say something we might regret later.
>>744624665dreamcast came out 4 years later
>>744624665Jokes on you, the PS1 version can now utilize the higher res textures from the Dreamcast port if you emulate it. Someone's even working on adding the cutscenes from the Dreamcast port to the PS1 version.
>cat was right, it's the jade syndicate....
I'm already at full health
>>744624665Kid?
>>744624665Would venom's tongue feel good on your balls?
>>744624665You ain't even HALF the man the TOP HALF of the Dreamcast was!
>>744624665I feel for you, SEGAfags. I was not in the company of your consoles in their day but I do respect them more than the majority of what came after.
>>744624665Sega was incompetent and deserved to die. Fuck sega fanboys, they were good at making games but fucking horrible at the console business.
>>744624665
>>744629226not really in this case
>>744624665 >comparing the dreamcast to the ps1 and not the saturnand now you know why it died
>>744624665PS1 released 94Dreamcast released 98PS2 released 2000
>>744629313the saturn is such a huge piece of shit. cost more to manufacture than the ps1 despite being so awful and sega getting an absurd discount on the dual cpus
>>744624665It's like tendies making comparisons between the PS3 and Switch 2 and being happy that Switch 2 looks a bit better.
i want oldfags to explain to me why PSO didn't carry the dreamcast into success. it seems like such a mindblowing game for the time
>>744629558Normies decide whether a console succeeds or fails
Why are people acting like this some big revelation? Yeah, the Dreamcast looked better than the PS1, that was its hook at the time and everybody knew it, thing is, that was never its real opponent, it was the PS2
>>744624665Can you get even more dishonest
Dreamcast is the Wii U of its gen.That is, it quickstarted a new gen too early and by the time its rivals released their consoles, it was already deprecated.
>>744629558mmos were not a new thing when it released.
>>744629558Ps2 had a (cheap for the time) dvd player. That's all it took for normies to flock to it.
>>744629717WiiU is much much worse.Xbox 360 released 2005WiiU released 2012.There is not a single WiiU game that looks better than the best 360 games. It's actually laughable.PS4 released exactly one year after the WiiU in 2013. it's not "a new gen" my ANY means.
>>744629603>posts the fucking garbage HD """remaster""" instead of the PS2 versionLOL
>>744624834spbp
>>744624665Dreamcast was the Nortubel of Sega
>>744629558It was hard to get online access at the time. This was also the time where everything needed to be on a LAN cable and everyone was using shit like AOL.Even next gen consoles had online games but next to no one would go through the hoops to play shit like MH1 online, MGSO or FF11. Only the xbox had anyone going through the hoops to set their console up with online because fucking everyone had halo and wanted to play its multiplayer.
>>744629558I didn't know how to connect my modem to my console
>>744624665Dreamcast vegans are insufferable. Always acting like it was super ahead of its time and had such magnificent fucking chops. It released in 1998, you dumbasses. It has all the advantages of coming out 4 years after the 5th Gen and all the disadvantages of coming out 3 years before the proper 6th gen.and 2 years before the PS2. It had great video output that shines quite well in multiplats but was the definition of a lipstick on a pig or a potemkin village in terms for processing what the 6th Gen was going to really show off after it found its legs and people learned the architectureAnd considering how the Saturn release date and specs were bungled and release late and the Dreamcast was the same way, why the fuck do you think another Sega console would be any different
>>744629892Posting any version doesn't help your case
>>744624665Dreamcast fans will post comparisons like this then get mad when you call it a 5th gen console.
>>744624665Soul vs soulless
>>744629536What the fuck is this draw distance?
>>744624665How are there still Dreamcast shills around?Its just contrarians, right?
>>744629558It was too based for normiesWhen it hit gaycube it was peak playing 4 screen coop
>>744630765the developers desperately trying to avoid the gigantic overdraw problem the saturn had
What the fuck does it even matter if the Dreamcast is better looking than the PS1? It's almost 30 years old, I'm just waiting for Sega to get off their ass and port Skies of Arcadia and Sakura Wars 3 already
If we had 4 h100s we could have slothware and xenware link up
>>744630925Skies is way more realistic than Sakura Wars.
>>744631103And how does that affect on Sega porting/remastering either?
The Dreamcast sucked and liking it is the ultimate Zoomer contrarian opinion, the way that Zoomers “ironically” love anything from the past they’ve never actually played/watched/read that failed.It's "classics" and exclusives were inferior to everything their competitors were putting out. Crazy Taxi was its best selling game, a game all its competitors systems could play easy. The Sonic Adventure games were garbage that you only liked because you were a middle-schooler enthralled that Sonic was "mature" now. It had only one Joystick in an age where even stick-in-the-mud Nintendo realized you needed two sticks to play 3D games, The VMU didn't actually do anything "Wow! a .GIF!” It was technologically inferior to its competitors so you can't even defend it on a “ahead of its time” level. It deserved to fail and I'm glad it did.
>>744629717Dreamcast actually had games thoughbeit even if they were mostly arcade ports
>>744624665The Dreamcast version is just the PC version. But yes you might as well emulate it on dreamcast these days.
>>744624665A yes... the Dreamcast, the 5.5th gen console. Nothing but a N64 Pro in terms of graphics output.A big chunk of its library is just PS1 games.
>>744629558It was far too earlyInternet was nowhere near good enough outside of Japan
>>744629558It couldn't, Sega was literally led by retards. They kept making dumb shit like the 32x, the cd, the Saturn, it was rerarded.
>>744629536Game?
>>744629558normalfags only cared for gta and dvd players
>>744624665These look like cute googly pupils
>>744625791Zoomers have no concept of technology advancement. Theyve been playing minecraft and fortnite their whole pathetic lives. Their phones always looked the same. Sad life.
>>744625623imagine being proudly blind
>>744630684fpbp
>>744629558The online gaming boom hit Japan earlier than the west, everyone was using their modems and phones and shit for cross functionality with different games. PSO and the Dreamcast were just a few years too early for their own good.
>XITTER THREADKill yourselves you fucking spastics.
Why the fuck is the controller so garbage?Why does it have only one stick?Why is the cable attached the wrong way?
>>744637362>t. zoomzoom who doesn't realise that the ps2 was a truly generational upgrade while dreamcast games were psx and n64 ports with slightly better textures and framerateslol
>>744638632So a PS1 Pro?
>>744629558PSO was boring as fuck
>>744638858yes, except missing most ps1 games
>>744639006So it's better but also worse in some ways
dreamcast soul reaver was especially ugly
>>744637508It also helped that a guy at Sega paid for online for Japan making it free for them to play for a good amount of time
>>744625720Well..yeah? What?
>>744624665the dreamcast port is complete garbage apart from the texture upgrades sadly
>>744630765It's called the Saturn was not designed for polygomnal 3D games
>>744624665Dreamcast Rhyno looks more like a Quake 2 character than a comic book.
>>744624665Let me guess, Treyarch did the DC port.
>>744628647If you weren't a faggot you'd realize the problem was Peter Moore. Aka the guy who hated Sonic, sabotaged Sega, said no 2D games on Saturn. He's the retard that ended up working for Xbox, crashing it, then EA Sports, crashing it. Now he fucked off to be a soccer team owner or some shit.
>>744629536Let me guess, you emulated this.
>>744629880Anon, I don't think there is a single Xbox 360 game that runs at 1080p. Not only did the Wii U run at 1080p but it also had to render a 480p second image. Wonderful 101, Mario 3D World, Star Fox Zero, look way better than anything on 360.
>>74464530699.99999999% of the time that "480p second image" was just a ui like a zelda map or item screen not even worth mentioning for resource usage
>>744631367Sorry bud, but arcade perfect console ports were good, you wouldn't understand, zoomy. Plus there literally was NOTHING like Shenmue on GayStation 2.
>>744624665I truly don't know why the ps1 port had these textures, someone did the pc textures on ps1 and it runs without problems.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWtADyzARHU
>>744635448>He thinks that because it was on PS1 it's a PS1 portSome of the biggest PS1 games like Resident Evil were also on Saturn and PC. Also the GTA2 Dreamcast version shat on the PS1 version. The PS1 version had to be set during the day because it couldn't handle the lighting effects of the night mode.
>>744645363Yet it's still a 480p render.
>>744629558Consoles are for normalfags. PSO was not a normalfag game.
>>744645387did he try actually putting those textures on an iso on a legit console instead of an emulator?
>>744624665>unc still ain't over it
>>744624665The impressive thing is that the ps1 version looked as good as it did
>>744629880I'd say Xenoblade X and BotW look and run better than GTA5 which would be the 360's nearest neighbour.
>>744624665Quality in game ports used to contrast this much. You could immediately tell which version was running on weaker hardware.Now, even when you compare something like the Switch to PC, the differences are hardly there, only the most nitpickiest of autists notice it.If you’re still obsessing over graphics, you’re spending thousands of extra dollars for increasingly tiny gains, you're paying a premium for a handful of extra pixels and slightly better polish.It's been this way since the HD era of games first started.
>>744645306Holy shit the cope
>>744629558It (the game, but also the console) was too "nerdy" for the gun and ball dudebro crowd.That's why the PS2 blew up so hard, it attracted a wide range of normalfags instead of just hardcore gaymers.
>>744645828>Now, even when you compare something like the Switch to PC, the differences are hardly thereIt's just as visible as in the OP pic. Something like PS5 and PC might be similar in stills but not in performance.
>>744629558the era of weebshit JARPG's was ending by the time the DC released, Peter Moore saw this coming from a mile away wich is why he pushed for QUAKE III to be the premiere online game on the DC, and it was the most popular online gamethe DC could have beat Xbox to the punch with becoming the home for online FPS on console but Sega of Japan would rather waste money on weebshit RPG's and Arcade shit that was dying out at the timejust one of the many things ruined by the out of touch boomers at Sega of Japan
>>744624665How does this console mog so hard, even three decades after its release?It has over 7000 titles, that's double of what the PS2 has. I keep finding new gems every other week.
>>744646326>the era of weebshit JARPG's was endingFinal Fantasy XI and Kingdom Hearts were massive just a few years later. >weebshitYou clearly weren't the target audience then most likely because you were yet to be conceived and you certainly aren't the target audience now.
>>744646543a goldrush of developers looking to escape nintendos jew cost of business
>>744646543>wobble wobble>load times longer than titanicit's trash
>>744625791Yeah the dreamcast was a weird fucking inbetween gen system, nobody even remembers the saturn which was supposed to be the ps1/n64 rival
>>744646543It was the perfect balance between a cheap physical medium and low graphical ceiling, prior to this you had to buy expensive cartridges to distribute your game so the industry favored bigger publishers. For discs then you had indie dev size teams pushing out "AA" or even AAA quality games and shipping them worldwide. This declined until the late 7th gen when the indie dev scene was kickstarted again by online marketplaces.
>>744646724>nobody even remembers the saturnVideo game discussion is centered around the american experience despite the consoles and the best games being Japanese with few exceptions. N64 should be the niche system while the Saturn remembered fondly.
>>744646563>You clearly weren't the target audience thenno because i was actually getting layed at the timeyou talk about FFX and Kingdom Hearts but you know that shit wasnt as popular as the previous entries, Squaresoft went bankrupt because they banked everything on reviving the FF craze with that dogshit movie and you know who the audience was for Kingdom Hearts? women and childrenYou bring that shit into a college dorm you get laughed the fuck out, the DC was a much better shooter machine and SEGA should have stuck to that, let Playstation have all of the virgin JARPIG gamers
>>744645828>that weird moment in time where you could have a game release on the PS1, N64, GBC, GBA, NGC, Xbox, PS2, PC and MacOS
>>744646923Sure you were getting "layed" at the time, kid.
>>744629536Before GunValkyrie we had Burning Rangers
>>744624665What is the point in this OP? The Dreamcast is a gen ahead of PS1 in power.
>>744629558Online gaming was niche until world of Warcraft and the 360 Most people didn't even know how to set it up let alone had interest in playing it
>>744647023The Dreamcast being a graphical powerhouse for exactly a year before the PS2 came out made it ridiculously memorable despite the game library being extremely lacking due to its short lifespan. In a void it duels with the Master System for second worst Sega console and loses handily.
>>744646983you have the snarkiness of a 40 year old virginJARPIG fans really cant fathom that they had literally 5 minutes of fame in the 90's ranging from Chrono Trigger to FF7
>>744637318^This.
>>744646967I think it says a lot that it didn't release on the DC.
>>744647104What are you doing in a thread discussing a console twice your age anyway?
>>744624834This.
>>744647094The dreamcast was not memorable. The dream cast sold like dogshit and nobody gave a fuck about the thing People buy consoles for video games, it having a bad library is a no go >It has online>It has slightly better hardware than older consoles(lol)>It has a butt fuck ugly controller and a childish design in the era of coolIt's biggest exclusive was sonic adventure, and I'm pretty sure more people played the janky GameCube port of that. Brutal
>>744647159laughing at JARPIG fags like you who pretend the entire console depended on JRPG's
>>744647143Just look at th controllers in this picThe PlayStation design is so iconic and sleek. What I imagine a controller should look like even if I never saw oneDreamcast looks like a fisher price plug and play toy
>>744624747bottom right here
>>744647257>entering a Dreamcast thread of all things because you're obsessed with JRPGsyeah bro damn Sega and their excellent JRPG library
>>744637318Indeed. To think I once regularly gamed on an Amstrad.
>>744647263Nobody gives a shit about the external design of a console or the PS5 would've flopped instantly.
>>744647263And if you look at the consoles themselves it's reversed. DC is the single best designed console to ever exist in both lines and size. Every playstation has been an ugly piece of shit.
>>744647343Yeah it's wee. PS1 snes 3ds ds and ps2 were THE JRPG consolesDreamcast has a lot of arcade ports and fighting games
>>744647263Dreamcast controller handled really nicely and original playstation controller was pretty shit.
>>744638632fucking retarded larper zoomerdreamcast was a generational leap to ps1a fucking huge leapimagine running quake 3 on ps1ps1 quake 2 is a good example of how dogshit of a console ps1 was compared to dreamcast
>>744647457leap from ps1*
>>744647457Dreamcast was competing with the anticipation for the ps2 launch which had a legendary line of games It was not competing with the ps1It's like jerking off the Genesis for being more powerful than the NES like no shit
>>744647567>dreamcast games were psx and n64 ports with slightly better textures and frameratesthe point is that this a giga retarded thing to say
>>744647456It looks ugly and childish. Nintendo should have learned from Sega on how to market a console Would have avoided the whole purple lunchbox shit
why did the retards at sega waste precious manufacturing cost money on a screen that serves no purpose, other than few sega made gimmicks?
>>744647684Cable at the bottom is so awkward
>>744647684because the japanese market is actually very susceptible to these sort of marketing gimmicks, to this day.Sega's mistake, very commong among jap devs, was to focus a bit too much on the japanese market.
>>744647730funny how sony avoided those meme gimmicks. I wouldnt call rumble feature or joysticks a gimmick
>>744647773>funny how sony avoided those meme gimmicksanon... you just weren't therethe playstation 2 had plenty of shitty stupid gimmicks
>>744647831thats just side gimmickthe actual ps1 and ps2 have no retarded gimmicks at all
>>744647831Seperate add ons not built into the system you dweeb
>>744647773Sony just copied Nintendo and improved it Snes controller has a really good designJust add hand grips and 2 extra buttons3d is going to becoming a thing instead of only one stick and buttons for camera.Uhh two sticks People want bigger games go with the media format that allows bigger games
>>744647895>>744647882The base function of that screen slot on the dreamcast controller is to be a memory card visualization. The rest of the functions are game specific and "add-ons".
>>744647896sadly. ps3 had the retarded gyro and ps4 the retarded toucnpadboth useless gimmicks which increase the cost
>>744647959a fucking useless screen that adds cost for no reason>you can see memory card info that could be shown on the tv screen instead!wow! so worth it!
>>744630013Sex with lizardmen
>>744648010homosexuality is a mental illnessseek help
>>744648008and I assume the ps2 usb expansion ports on the ps2 were free ? retard
>>744647970>Gyro>useless gimmickhow can you even say that with a straight face when every controller ( bar Xbox controllers) comes with Gyro today?
>>744629558People in the west had access to Diablo 2. PSO was Sega taking burning rangers and trying to make it Diablo 2.
>>744648091no one uses that wagglan shit
>>744647684>And this is our console's controller!What were they thinking??
>>744647719There was a clip built into the controller for having the wire come out the top.
>>744648254Here's your controller bro.
>>744646967It kept up slightly, call of duty WaW released on previous gen consoles too and it was weird. Played the ps2 version at a friend's house and it was missing the 2nd half of the pacific campaign and ends at the reichstag
>>744648254The most objectively wrong thing qas the cable being on the bottomNiggas at sega were smoking pcp or something when they came up with that
>>744648267That just proves Sega knew how awkward it was, and they should have just built it correctly in the first place
>>744648835Ps2 sold so much hardware that it was a no brainer to put out something for it. I never played the waw ps2 port but I'm sure Activision got some c team laying around to quickly port as much as they could in like 5 months It also helped that the Wii was a 6th gen console hiding behind a motion gimmick so you could easily just port games between the two
>>744629558I didnt get broadband until 2006 and only had slow dialup before that
>>744629558unironically just too ahead of its time. if PSO came out in an era where consoles could just connect to wifi it would have been like nothing else. the fact that private servers still have hundreds of daily players says a lot, PSO is an incredible game
>>744629880Reminder Wii-U came out 6 years AFTER PS3 and it couldn't run TLOU
>>744629558Getting your parents to agree to an MMO was a battle of wits and the minute I tried on PSO I lost because of the logistics of hooking up a console to the internet
>>744648149sounds like you have sour grapes for using a xshit controller
>>744629558PSO was just too early. Also, the bitter pill to swallow is that it wasn't that amazing of a game. It had a solid basis to expand from, but PSO2 ended up being a completely different game.
>>744626141>PS1 version can now utilize the higher res textures from the Dreamcast port if you emulate it.Wow, so your PC can play Dreamcast games?!
>>744637318that's gen alpha you fucking NIGGERI AM ONE OF THE BIG BOYS AND I WILL SWING MY MASSIVE DONG AROUND IN DOMINANCE!!!!!!
>>744646204You are autistic
>>744636680Burning Rangers
>>744647970>useless gimmicksThe PS4 also had a big useless LED that you couldn't control
>>744630109You are stupid. The original Halo didn't even have an online mod, you could only play it split-screen or through LAN by connecting multiple Xbox consoles.You're just parroting what you've read online.
>>744624665>>744647147That hasn't surprised me for a while now, the Dreamcast was a powerful console for its timeBut as is often the case with Nintendo, you don't need a powerful console to sell a lot
>>744651973now YOU are stupid now stop being MEAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>744647773>>744647882The PS2 actually does have a gimmick. The face buttons on the controller are not digital, they are actually pressure sensitive. A handful of games made use of it but the feature was never seen again after that.I remember that Ace Combat games on the PS2 used the button sensitivity.
>>744652267I don't know if I'd call this a gimmick in the same way the Nintendo consoles used them. It's literally additional functionality that effectively doubles the functions of the face buttons. MGS2/3 used them well to make it so lowering your weapon didn't require additional button presses. It also let you control the distance you threw your grenades between light and strong presses. ZOE kind of did by making it so that pressing harder changed the function of your subweapon a bit, but that was actually kind of a pain because you rarely wanted the "light" version of the subweapon.
>>744653295>It's literally additional functionalityThe same can be said about wagglan, it was just an option.
They needed Sega out of the picture. It was too dangerous if left unchecked. Nintendo and Sony knew it, and they made sure it died before it got big.
>>744654074Nintendo did throw the US games industry under the bus when that politician got booty blasted about violent games...
