>Only made five games>Literally every other project they pitched was canned.How the hell is Retro Studios still around?
Because those games were pretty highly rated and well loved. Lol'd at the exclusion of Prime 4, I saw what you did there.
>>744626845I actually did like Prime 4. Weirdly I forgot returns and only rememebered Tropical Freeze.
>>744626415Prime 1Prime 2Prime 3DKCRDKCTFPrime 4That's not five, anon.
Their original pitches always crash and burn.
>>744626415nintendo is pathologically obsessed with preventing layoffseven though retro is shit now and deserves to be shutdown
>>744627197They were an absolute mess before Miyamoto made them get their shit together and made them make Metroid Prime. If anything, them producing nothing but shit that got scrapped between Freeze Dong and Prime 4 was just a return to the norm.
>>744626415they have excellwnt game design, that's whythey were the same devs behind turok 1 and 2, which were fps metroidvanias that filtered the boomer shooter crowd
>>744627379I kinda think Harmony had potential
>>744626415there's a reason why they're called Rares replacement
>>744627586Rare could actually put out more than one or two games a generation.
>>744627420Looks like a non-shitty Crash of the Titans but I hate Crash of the Titans.
>>744626415Their cancelled original projects were all uninspired or outright bad but they're still capable of making great games when under a tight leash, MP4 notwithstanding.
>>744627845I think the beastmaster concept could really work. Just needed a solid direction.
>>744627839I rather people call them "Rare at home"
>>744627586>>744627839>>744628082Rare made so many games in a short span was only possible because game development wasn't as expensive as it is nowTheir output slowed down dramatically when game development became more complicatedThey haven't released squatt since Sea of Thieves
Despite being constantly compared to Rare. They honestly failed to capture the tone and atmosphere that made the original DKC games so memorable.
>>744628791Tropical Freeze came close
>>744627049>I actually did like Prime 4Why? Are you stupid?
>>744628821>No K. Rool.
Probably a tech-heavy studio where autists control everything and think creatives are just idea guys like /v/. That means they can turn a profit with something that tends to ship but will always make derivative slop like Insomniac.
>>744630018So basically they need to be assigned projects. "You're gonna be working on Donkey Kong", "You're gonna be working on Metroid"
>>744630085Yes, tech focused studios can make something, but they need everything spelled out. You can never expect them to innovate. They simply can't. And any attempts to bring that in with flare their tism and push those people away.
>>744630296I mean their artists are almost always top tier at least.
>>744626415the people who developed the original MP trilogy are long gone. It's just larpers now, like Rare.
Out of all the cancelled projects, was there any that actually had potential?
No one could have made prime 4 right. Thats why it changed hands so often. You can't just make a "more ambitious mteroidvania" because what would that be? Either more areas, more interconnected, more item synergy or synthesis. The genre is just great big "aha!" moments. Ro make that concept more ambitious you would have to either 1 make it more complex which alienates working adults, or 2 keep it streamlined and compartmentalized which gives you less ambitious "aha!s" and so any new or extra content just "makes it feel like a slog" because all the new content you progress to isn't connect with or built upon the previous ones. Honeslty they could make a great game if their target demo was just 8 year olds on summer vacation. But thats not what sells when the average gamer is 30 and 40, most kids don't know what metroid is, and are increasingly turning to free to play make your own fun multiplayer games rather than designer crafted single player experiences.
>>744626415>>744627197Look at that, they're all hits.
>>744626415Nintendo killed Tanabe in front of them as a warning. They have one more chance.
The wait between frozen dong and mp4 was longer than the wait between prime 1 and frozen dong by a lot. What the fuck was retro doing the last 15 years?
What do you think their thing before MP4 was anyway?
>>744632610I actually like Prime 4 and had a great time with it. Doesn't deserve the hate it gets. It's immersive and worth playing. Yeah it's not as good as prime 1 or 2 but 99.99 percent of all games aren't either
>>744634052glorifying the state of israel or something
>>744634052There were threads in the past discussing the planned game for the WIIU/Switch that got canned by Nintendo. The one with the red ginger singing about love and peace or some shit who rode on animals like Kameo. Reggie canned that shit from ever being shown off at E3 I think cause of how rough it was. Whats funny is that in my head the premise of a girl riding on top of a beast and singing songs to gain powers is what DK Bananza ended up being so I like to think thats why their big game ended up being canned(that and troubled development)