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What went wrong?
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>>744629143
They should've used AI to source the components
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It won't work well with steam machine
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Income not rising to meet the costs of day to day living in the same country Valve is asking for 1.5k. It was doomed from day one.
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>>744629194
Uhm, I already bought my Steam Machine?
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>>744629143
If they can get it between 900-1.2k I'll buy it, if it's any higher I'll kill myself
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>>744629143
>shitty monochrome passthrough cameras so no mixed reality porn
>shitty ancient lcd screens
>no self tracking controllers
I can go on. It's overpriced.
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>>744629143
It's still no AVP money
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>>744629901
>higher resolution screens than even the Apple Vision Pro
>top tier Sony micro-oled panels
>full color high resolution camera passthrough
>full eye and hand tracking
>$1799 retail but actually goes on sale
>you can actually buy it
I don't know what Valve was thinking.
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>>744630562
It's almost twice as expensive as what the frame will cost.
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>>744632135
>he thinks the frame is going to be $900
What's worse is if you look at the Valve Index. It's was $1000 until it was discontinued. They never dropped the price. 6 years after launch they were still asking 2019 prices for it.
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>>744632256
Gaben loves his fans and community. He will offer everyone a 5% discount for every year of their account's age. Any account over 20 years old gets it for free.
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How the fuck is the VR meme still a thing?
Its literally been over a decade and there still isnt one mediocre game worth playing on this stupid gimmick
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>>744633401
VR porn is a console killer
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>>744629143
can i connect it to my pc via cable?
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>>744633401
HMDs have been in development for almost as long as videogames, and while it hasn't often saved development progress between iterations, it has had constant new attempts every time the technology changes.
VR had the misfortune of launching into the worst possible market for videogames, so it got fucked over significantly.
>Walled garden storefronts
>Obsolete consoles trying to insist that they're still viable
>Live service
>Shartphone design trends
>Smart TV design trends
It all dragged down VR significantly and basically erased most of what was done in the 2010s.
If they had set open standards, released drivers as open source and had proper Linux support, then VR would be a much more mature platform, but instead it's just infighting that was kicked off by Facebook buying Oculus.
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>>744629143
If it costs 1500 it's DOA with Galaxy XR and Pico Swan at 2K
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leakers are saying it's $2,000
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>>744634694
>Android slop with hundreds of dollars hidden in the immaterial costs you pay for advertising, data harvesting and ecoystem lock-in vs, completely free on Linux, don't even have to buy your games on Steam to play them on the headset, likely won't have to even play on SteamOS or install Steam shortly after launch
Android standalone is just complete garbage, even compared to how worthless standalone is already becoming due to increasing costs. It's likely that soon standalone will just drop off its imitators completely in favor of grabbing the pancake lens + display combo and running with it for wired chinksets, since the ads+data+lock-in combo will stop balancing out the increased procurement costs for ARM chips and memory unless the price skyrockets past wired headsets or they stick a subscription on it to hide the cost.
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>>744634358
lot of cope for unviable tech lmao
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>>744635128
Might as well call videogames unviable tech then, considering that the industry has been on life support since 2011 and is currently collapsing (2 more weeks).
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VR is fun i just wish meta would stop fucking the quest 3s compatibility with virtual desktop over through driver updates
if a shooter has a vr mod it will be my preferred way to play the game every single time you just have to put some limiters on yourself with something like re4vr because you can move and shoot
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>>744629143
I charged up my Steam with 1.4k€
So thats not gonna be enough?
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>>744630562
>still powered with a mobile chip which can't run the screen resolution so it's pointless
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>>744629143
Gaben got greedy for that yacht money.
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>>744629143
>every steambox review:
https://youtu.be/2zc3idF_IZ0?t=296
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>>744629143
>costs 5x more than the Quest 3 for nearly the same specs
who the fuck is going to be buying this
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>>744629314
i never understood the appeal of mixed reality porn. why would i want to look at my crappy apartment while i jerk off when i could simulate a beachfront mansion
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>>744636415
but it will say steam somewhere on the device so i can display it on my desk for my reddit pictures
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>>744629143
Sucks that VR has been raped by worthless patents, like other modern tech industries.
We'll have to wait 20+ years before cheap, decent haptics for the full body end up dropping for consumers.
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>>744629143
Reminder that you Trump voters voted for this.
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>>744633401
the mentality of "vr must be a gimmick" is what killed vr
i dont want to play waggle bullshit where i can roll on my floor
i just want to play normal games where i can see true 3d depth and turn the camera using my head
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>>744636415
People who actually want to own their device and not sell their soul to satanists.

>>744636482
Open up VR software for it to run on any PC without proprietary software and the patents won't matter.
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>>744633401
I just spent the last 7 hours straight in a VR JAV edging marathon. About to go again.
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I guess VR googles are so overpriced that is a thing you don't lose money even if you only sell a few.
Because at this point VR googles devs should know that you need software first to sell these things and you don't need expensive googles to play the most played VR game on steam that is VRchat
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>>744629143
Why are people acting like any hardware valve makes in current year isn't going to instantly sell out. It's not even possible for it to fail unless they made it $5000 and even then they would get plenty of sales
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>>744633401
if my index controllers didn't crap out on the thumbsticks (again) i'd still be cutting the heads off women in blade and sorcery for at least three hours every day
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Leakers are saying it's going to be 4,500$
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I don't believe it.
No way it's more expensive than the Steam Machine.
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Meta Quest 3 is what, $700? This is better so I can see $1000 minimum.
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>PAY UP 1.5K FOR DRIFTLESS JOYSTICKS, GOY!
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>>744629143
dont care still buying lol
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>>744629143
They didn't lock in contracts for parts well in advance as anyone with a brain would do
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It was never designed for you, you were never the target consumer even years ago. Valve themselves admitted this when talking about the steam machine. All valve peripherals are for tech influencers to make videos and for people to show off with more spending money than you make in a month. The steam deck was a complete fluke that landed at the right time that's it.

Nobody who cares about properly priced tech would ever buy anything with the valve logo its just like apple tech. All those fags who bought the vision pro will flock to this along with reddit tier gaming dads who game 2-3 hours a week. It's going to sit on top of the steam machine along with the two steam controllers and collect dust.

If you want real tech valued properly look towards the Asian market, ignore the western logo slop designed for reddit and Instagram posts. Ah you fags will just use klarna anyways
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>>744636482
>20+ years
Not happening then
>>744636630
Sounds gay
>>744637038
So cattle will spend thousands and there’ll still be no games XD
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>>744633401
it's just a nice tax write off for these big companies
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>>744636276
Funny how that problem only exists in your head.
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>>744629143
If it's that much, better option is Play for Dream
Higher resolution wifi 7, Oled, eye tracking, mouth tracking, upper body tracking, better and color pass-trough cameras.....in a nutshell a Steam frame PRO for few 100 dollars more
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>>744642202
>better option
So it's running Linux then?
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>>744642248
You're trying to be a smartfag? You're failing, hard.

YES, it is running Linux like all Android it is using Linux kernel. I believe they are using 6.x version now but maybe already at 7.x
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>>744642696
Jeetdroid is not Linux, nor is it using the Linux kernel, it is an 18 year-old fork being developed by an advertising company.
Unlike the Frame it likely also won't have an unlocked bootloader. Please do not try to elaborate on your 100% white method of unlocking bootloaders, where you bring it to customer service, wait for them to unlock the device and then steal it back before they can re-lock it while they shout "give it back Jamal" in the distance.
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Nothing went wrong. Valve knows they have a loyal audience of shit eating retards that rivals the Pokemon fanbase. They can put whatever they want in a box and charge any price and PCmutt morons will gobble it up.
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>>744629143
I'm just glad VR tech happened before AI shit
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>>744633401
>still isnt one mediocre game worth playing on this stupid gimmick
played 30 hours in gzdoom vr sunlust.wad
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>>744629312
Same.
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>>744637427
>Meta Quest 3 is what, $700?
art of the deal
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>>744629143
>fail
It's not that much of a big deal. They would like it to be a huge success, but it's not like a console which library lives and dies by how succesful it is. If Valve has the money, the consumer has the money, and the product works, then a satisfactory deal has been made that keeps the ball rolling until they can figure how to make it less expensive for everyone in the future.
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stop trying to make VR a thing
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>>744645021
it just had no staying power for me. i had a quest and it just felt bulky, i was using it connected to play PC VR games too but it’s so awkward. even in a fully cleared out room. and then all you got are shooters, lame ass puzzle games, that soi boy beat saber game and the numerous clones, and oh yeah, VR porn. its just not worth it. i didnt even bother with vr chat. if i wanted to hang out with squeekers and literal fucking troons i’d go to a special needs day care.
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>>744643545
fresnel lenses no thanks
once you go pancake you dont go back
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>>744642938
>Jeetdroid
FYU it's always PAJEET. PA is for pakistanis and jeet is for indians. It covers entire SEA lowlifes pajeet subhuman type liek philipoinos, indians (all castes) shri lankans and other human feces from that sewer of our planet area.

so pajeetdroid is correct term

And Android is Linux kernel no matter how much you scream it is not or how you justify you false delusion it is not. First andorid builds were a fork, but nowadays all are using mainstream kernel
PfD has unlocked boot-loader, or more precisely you can unlock it with official tools that are available to anyone.
I have 0 doubt someone will drop SteamOS build on it that's from Frame as soon is it's available.
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>>744642156
>the mobile chip which can't run the panel resolution only exists in your head
So the mobile chip is more powerful than a 5090?
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>>744629194
the whole point of the frame is that it's a stand alone desktop environment
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I can view gaussian splats using a cheap zuck device, I don't need a 1.5K USD arch linux fork with 0 software at launch
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>>744629143
Doesn't that put it into Pimax territory?
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>>744629143
>Better than a Quest 3
>Escaping the Zuck Cuckleberg
No price too high.
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>>744629143
Valve's hardware ventures have always been a money sink vanity project for Gabe. People are still gonna buy it anyway.
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>>744629210
This is wrong, Reddit.
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>>744650697
Which part, richoid?
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>>744651059
The incomes, Reddit.
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>>744651165
So inflation doesn't exist? So things haven't steadily been getting more expensive while income has remained the same?
Dude, if this was /pol/ I'd slam you with fifteen fucking links and statistics and shut your shit down instantly. You're lucky I can't do that.
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>>744629143
Can't they just make enough controllers instead? They're still out of stock. They don't require ram. So what's the fucking issue?
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>>>744651165
>So inflation doesn't exist?
Y
>So things haven't steadily been getting more expensive while income has remained the same?
N
>Dude, if this was /pol/ I'd slam you with fifteen fucking links and statistics and shut your shit down instantly. You're lucky I can't do that.
You'd still be wrong and you just need one link, which refutes your entire claim.
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MEHOINUSA672N/
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>>744629143
Pico 4 or quest 3
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>>744629143
>1500
funny if true, valve are such incompetent retards, fuck them and that sandnigger "engineer" of theirs.
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>he has below 200k in savings
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>>744652016
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=1fkUu
So here's a link from the same site that compares the data you showed me with the median household income.
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=1l3kS
Here's a second link comparing the same income you pulled, once again, to rental prices.

You notice how both graphs are going DOWN?
That's because the spending power of the average person has DECREASED.
I only pulled up rental prices, but that echoes out into everything else.
If rent is more expensive, you have less money for everything else.

If I'm wrong interpreting this data in any way, let me know, but this is the same site YOU used, with the same data YOU used, and you're already proven wrong.
The point is that income isn't rising to match the cost of everything else, not that income isn't rising at all, mate.
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>>744636695
>sell their soul to satanists
>mfw
I bet you own a phone yet a Quest 3 is somehow devil's spawn
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>>744637074
The Index in general Is dogshit in quality. My headset is literally falling apart from just sitting and playing VaM so it wasn't even subjected to any forces. I'm glad I bought the headset only and still use the old Vive wands because I've read horror stories about the knuckles and how fragile they were, even when they were new.
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>>744629143
i saw enough frame-related "insider info" and coordinated "big announcement coming soon" actions on twitter to know that all of the popular VR information source people are worthless clickbaiters. doubt it'll be $1500, given it's a fancy quest 3 with less zucc
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>>744636474
Tested with shitty index camera and it does something to the brain.
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>>744648925
>Pimax
How's Pimax nowadays? I remember people being extremely split on their hardware, either being the best thing ever or the worst dogshit imaginable and extremely terrible customer support.
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>>744653543
They don't even properly test whatever they're shilling, I have a chink headset that the MRTV faggot said had really nice tracking and it's fucking dogshit. Can't play any two handed shooting games at all because the controllers lose tracking whenever they're inline or when any of the cameras can't see them.

https://youtu.be/3NmtXxhsc2M?t=1204
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>>744653543
See the problem is it can be a $1500 headset because retarded Valve cultists will absolutely buy their expensive shit. Just like it was with the Index and it's knuckles. The headset was fine but the controllers start falling apart really fast and get stick drift fast too yet they were almost always sold out.
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Its dropping in 45 min, right?
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>>744652872
You're dividing by the CPI twice. Real incomes are already basically nominal incomes divided by the CPI. You've divided them by the CPI again, which doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

Good on you though. I expected 10 schizo links, but was pleasantly surprised.
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>want to upgrade from an index
>everything that is a possible upgrade is either wireless monstrously overpriced or both
>or comes with bullshit caveats like bsb2 and its full resolution only being possible at 75hz
Why is it so hard for some company to come by and just make an Index but with twice or thrice the resolution?
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Gabe needs a bigger yacht and the minions of earth will give him that
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there's no games I want to play with it, I'd end up just using it for porn and I already have an old quest headset for that
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>>744629312
>me looking at standalonefags spending 3-4x the amount I paid for my PSVR2 just because they want to play phone games around the house
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>>744655425
shill me it, didn't sony discontinue it?
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>>744655354
I think you mean another submarine.
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>>744656476
It's not discontinued, just being produced at an extremely low rate. It gets deep discounts to the $300-350 range which makes it the best bang for buck headset on the market and frankly the best option if being tethered means nothing to you.
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7 more minutes
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>>744656727
Until what?
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>>744657153
Nothing...
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>>744657153
isnt it going on preorder
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>>744636937
It's a shame she never did JAV tho.
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>>744648775
HOW?
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>>744645897
>nooo meta quest is bad
>standalone vr is ruining vr
>Oh what's this master gaben? a new headset that runs without a pc? Only for $1500? You are so wise and generous.
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What the fuck I thought pre-orders were going up, I've been tricked
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>>744641810
>Asian market
Yeah. China's been getting real good when it comes to hardware lately. Boomer dads still stuck at past shilling overpriced German and American brands not realizing all the hardware stuff are produced at the same places regardless of if it's a fancy westoid brand or literal who chinese brand.

I for one welcome east products. Westoids tried to exploit cheap labor and make 99% of profits of their backs and now that east is fighting back all the kikes are crying about, trying to implement tariffs in America and its vassal countries.

Good grief. That's what you get for not paying your own citizens just to save some bucks. And now you lose relevancy as years pass.You reap what you sow.
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>>744657758
the quest is bad because it's android.
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>>744633401
Its simply a containemnt hobby to keep trannies, sex addicts, furries, and other degens from shitting on other hobbies. Its still a retarded gimmick of smacking a screen on your eyes with a camera that follows your heads direction
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>>744633401
>How the fuck is the VR meme still a thing?
porn
but even that is on a massive downward trend
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>>744658104
I haven't see that picrel in a while.
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There is absolutely nothing available for games or software that justifies a $1500 price tag on a headset.
I've had VR for about eight years now and my first headset was the CV1. Games have barely improved and all the best ones are STILL stuff that came out during the first gen headsets.
I'll keep using my Index until it explodes, and when it does I'll probably end up buy a refurbished replacement rather than light my wallet on fire for something that almost certainly won't be worth it.
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>>744629181
AI don’t mine, they have more rights than American citizens.
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>>744658104
The problem is that chinks can't into software. The west still dominates software production and they decide who gets native support and who doesn't.
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>>744659030
Pretty much. I've spent a total of 450€ on my two VR headsets and considering the amount of worthwhile games is somewhere between 5-10 I wouldn't recommend spending any more than that for hardware.
The only real exception is VRChat cretins which cannot be reasoned with in the first place.
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>>744658368
Valve ecosystem is just like Apple. You are trap in a system for profit.
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>>744659030
I had the PSVR. Bought it used, then sold it. It was fun to dick around with for a bit, especially in Skyrim, but it's not something you can enjoy for a long time because of how sweaty your face gets.
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>>744659558
linux does not lock you to an ecosystem
i will just pirate whatever game i want on the frame
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>>744659252
Sure anon, lets get you to /pol/ and avoid /g/ who like AI Deepseek or Kimi K3.
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>>744659905
Umm actually yes it locks you: https://www.eurogamer.net/steam-machine-linux-steamos-anti-cheat-unplayable-games-list
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>>744660095
the online anti cheat lock is server side, it's not done by linux
timmy doesn't want me to play fortnite, so i won't
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>>744660454
Besides American studios, you can’t play Chinese games from Tencent, Hoyoverse, Nexon from S.Korea, Japan games because Valve doesn’t approve it and certain VR games since they’re platform exclusively.

Yes anon, Linux limitations is real, Windows offers more games.
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>>744629143
>What went wrong?
The US.
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>>744660778
but the discussion was linux vs android? if a stand alone windows set existed i would buy it, but it doesn't
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>>744658663
>a containemnt hobby to keep trannies, sex addicts, furries, and other degens from shitting on other hobbies
Do you come up with this bullshit on your own or does someone feed you this retardation?
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>>744633401
It's the form factor brother, the games are mid, but it's the whole idea of being in the game that is so appealing and makes up for the mid shit. I didn't understand it at first either, until I borrowed my mates VR setup, and I finally understood.
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>>744659030
>>744659259
>>744659696
My first headset was the OG Vive and after that I bought the Index a few months after release. It's literally falling apart but there isn't anything I can possibly replace it with, especially at the price tag I bought the Index for. VR is fun but not $1500 fun, that's just retarded, even though I would like to upgrade from my Index soon.
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>>744662101
PSVR2.
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>>744662907
I've been thinking about it but I've also been reading very mixed opinions. Not only does it have a lower resolution than a Quest 3 it also supposedly has worse quality screens. I'd have to probably see it for myself but that isn't a good sign to begin with.
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>>744663107
Better screens but worse lenses and half the price. VR isn't worth the 600€ the Quest 3 sells for.
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>>744663250
>VR isn't worth the 600€ the Quest 3 sells for
I completely agree but I'm not sure if the PSVR2 is a good step up from the Index for me personally.
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>>744663404
If you want something similar to the Index but isn't falling apart then PSVR2. All other options means you will be spending double or even more. Yes they might be better but you will have to have a sit down with yourself and ask how much more you are willing to spend for pancake lenses and tetherless.
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>>744663596
>how much more you are willing to spend for pancake lenses and tetherless
Ironically I don't want wireless but everyone seems to be going wireless. I'd rather have a tether than to deal with video compression and other bullshit like battery life.
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>>744658368
The quest is bad because it's zuckerfuck.
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>>744660095
Are you retarded.
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>>744663805
>but everyone seems to be going wireless
Bigscreen VR have still the best consumer headsets money can buy and those are tethered. Wireless is only appealing for casual, social gaming and porn. It all depends on your own usecases for VR. For me its sitting down plane sims so I really don't give a shit about cables. PSVR2 also has eyetracking and foveated rendering support so shit like MSFS doesn't shit itself.
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Literally what would have been the downside to making a press release saying
>Yeah we are putting our hardware releases on definite hiatus if you have any complaints please forward them to Sam Altcoin at 950 Lombard Street in the Russian Hill neighborhood of San Francisco, California
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>Here's our several thousand dollar enthusiast hardware
>Btw the game we made for it is was designed to be played by casual retards and we had to be shouted at to include smooth locomotion and turning
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VR always reminded me of motion controls in the sense that it sounds pretty cool on paper, then you use it and realize it's really only good for one specific thing (simulators) while being dogshit for just about everything else. The novelty of "Swing sword in VR", "Shoot gun in VR", "Throw ball in VR" wears off quick when it becomes clear that's all VR has to offer with nothing particularly unique beyond that due to being limited to FPV.
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>>744633401
Alyx is great.
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If you're making an expensive headset at least put an OLED. Who is buying this shit with an LCD? It's already a luxury product, increasing the price by $100 or $200 for an OLED is clearly worth it.
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>>744636324
Gayben doesn't give a damn about making a profit off hardware, hardware is meant to be a vehicle for linux and games on steam. Shit is just ludicrously expensive.
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>>744664068
>Bigscreen VR
I was eyeing the BSB2 until I found out it can run it's native resolution only at 75Hz and at 90Hz it's doing upscaling bullshit.
>PSVR2 also has eyetracking and foveated rendering support
That I didn't know, especially foveated rendering. This has seriously piqued my interest now.
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>>744664602
OLED is too dim for pancake lenses
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>>744657562
Polycam I bet
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>>744664692
So then how does the Big Screen Beyond function, which has pancake lenses and OLED? If a literal who company can do it so can Valve.
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>>744664649
>especially foveated rendering
Don't get too excited as PC games barely support it; there are only a handful of headsets that support eyetracking so most support is locked behind middleware like Pimax4All. It's the same story with HDR and rumble; yes the custom drivers can technically allow the PSVR2 to support HDR and rumble on PC but zero games support it because HDR is only possible on OLED headsets of which there are... 2 or 3. Add to that the fact that VR is practically dead, there's barely any big games being developed for it on PC or console.
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>>744665027
Oh, I thought it was hardware foveated rendering. That fucking sucks then.
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>>744665293
It is hardware foveated rendering but you must understand that software needs to utilize that hardware and that requires the developers to implement it or middleware. The only developers that bothered to implement it were MSFS2024, DCS, Pavlov VR and iRacing. The games supported by middleware is longer but still rather short.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16GNwXAVCjUF9vCW6ubiUPQT00hZ7hRT5K_sbO6P9nYc/edit?gid=0#gid=0

As far as I'm concerned the 300€ PSVR2 I got is still too advanced for PCVR gaming in 2026 as the big features that elevate it on console aren't utilized. Steam Frame might make things better as it supports eyetracking and might force more games to adopt foveated rendering... but the industry is dead and I doubt many developers will bother patching older games for the Frame (and PSVR2). HDR is a pipedream, not going to happen. Frame is LCD shit so HDR isn't available and nobody will be patching their old or upcoming games for something only PSVR2, Bigscreen OLEDs and Apple Vision Pro can do.
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>>744656689
It still has the old style of lenses, doesn't have full functionality on Windows and you need different controllers for Linux support.
It's neat as a budget console headset, but lacking for PC right now.
>>744659252
Hopefully they just give up and leave software to open source projects like Monado.
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>>744666039
>doesn't have full functionality on Windows
With PSVR Toolkit and PimaxMagic4All installed it's mainly limited by the lack of support by the games themselves.
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>>744660863
TRVTH
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>$2,000 for the entry level
>over 2k for the other choices
Dead on arrival.
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I lowkey hope its 1,500+ because if its 500-1000 I'll have to buy it but if its over 1k I can safely avoid it without feeling fomo
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>>744629143
The year of Linux
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>>744656560
that happened to me last year.
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>>744670667
Glad you're feeling better, anon.
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>>744660095
If you really want to play EAC slop you can just dual boot, retard
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>>744665805
It's really fucking stupid you have this really good technology that is foveated rendering but lazy fucks don't bother implementing it. Shame it has to be enabled on a per game basis.
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>>744633401
>He fell for the "VR is a meme" meme.
We've done a great job at gatekeeping VR, shame we couldn't keep the degens off this site.
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>>744660927
Steam and SteamOS doesn’t support apk, ios and other platform Linux installation https://reproducible.archlinux.org/

Stop trying to defend corporate interests.
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>>744672505
SteamOS doesn’t support dual boot idiot and also doesn’t contain Windows drivers. What you claimed is the opposite of Valve’s message.
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Surely valve will stick to their statement of pricing it lower than the index
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>>744673723
>He fell for the thinking the "VR is a meme" meme was just a meme
Yeah, fuck this gay shit. My Index has been collecting dust for years.
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>>744676527
Imdex is just a shit device
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>>744676527
Wow someone doesn’t like fun.
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>>744633401
>How the fuck is the VR meme still a thing?
literally just because of vrchat, wish i was joking, but alas
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>>744636514
based trumpoidal miggers dabbing on vrcoomers, the one good thing they've ever done
TOTAL AGPVRFAGGOT DEATH
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>>744673060
Can you really blame them? Only a few headsets support it and dev teams for VR titles are indie games with limited resources to begin with.
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>>744663107
PSVR2 looks like absolute shit compared to Quest 3. Its about 25% less blurry than PSVR1 at best.
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>>744629143
Of course it will sell. Do they not know how many dick sucking faggot Steam fans there are? Up until the Index was finally retired, they were thankful to pay $1000 for that ancient trash.
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>>744676819
What's a good VR device? I thought Index was good? Or was it just the controllers at the time?
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>>744676785
Shut up poorfag.
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>>744676527
>Bought one of the earliest devices
>Never upgraded or waited for a better price option
>"WTF VR IS A MEME?!?"
The index came out in 2019
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>>744675712
lol
lmao
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>>744629143
>Doomed to fail
>May cost $1.5k
Seeing as the original steam VR headset cost $1k and this is battery powered and wireless.... I think they will not scare off original steam VR owners, they just won't win over normies who didn't use VR
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>>744679534
and the PSVR2 is OLED. It goes black. It's brighter. It has much better colors. It's infinitely more comfortable. It doesn't suffer with video compression and latency.
>it's not as sharp
Nearly every other headset for sale today is sharper than a Quest. Are you going to say your Quest is shit because every other headset looks better?
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>>744629143
Those poor leftist billionaires. *weeps*
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>>744681725
>What's a good VR device?
any wireless shit
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>>744629210
This. Valve products are made for a middle class that no longer exists.
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>>744683502
>compresses your video output
Heh, nothing personell kid.
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>>744682446
The colours don't matter if everything is blurry to shit. The Quest 3 stock strap is awful, and the VR2 headset does not stay in one position. They both need third party straps to be comfortable. And the comment I replied to was comparing PSVR2 to Quest 3, no mention of others.
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>>744684668
I consume compressed media 99.99% of the time anyways



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