Exactly.
>>744632674>If I woke up looking like that, I would just run towards the nearest living thing and kill it
>I tried to forcefully invade someones home against their consent and got shot at for it. >Woe is me, everyone is evil and racist. >To disprove their assumptions about me I will make it my lifes work to kill, rape and eat them all.Do foreigners really?!
No but noooo but no you see if you were shot at and denied safety then you just need to respect the rich people and walk into the wastes and die >:((((If you were locked outside of the bunker in the Land of the Rape-and-then-Disembowel-to-Eat-Alive Wolves with your wife and children, you should just smile and let them all get raped and disemboweled and then eaten alive :)))))Don't fight for your well-being when the chips are down, everything's fucked, and it's come down to life and death. Just die because that's heckin based :))
>>744632928There's a town not even a mile away that accepts ghouls.
>kill roy for tenpenny>get key>kill tenpenny>kill everyone>tower is now mine
>>744632983>t. bitch that hasn't read All Roads and thinks that in-game scale is 1:1 to representative
>>744632928The inbred retard cannibals in andale have nice houses too, roy and his band also have dibs on the metro station but say it's icky and deserve better.
>>744633108I think you benefit more by keeping the Tenpenny residents alive so you can buy/sell shit to them, and maybe spend a night if you feel like it. Also how dare you kill Daring Dashwood like that. He's a good man, and gave those zombies the benefit of the doubt when they don't even deserve it.
you still would though
>>744634806
>>744634787The ghouls take over the old shops after a few days pass.
>>744633238There's a quest that has you nuking the town because a guy in the tower doesn't like looking at it...
>>744632924He played by their rules and even brought the cash, and they shot at him. Even when talking about a video game you dipshit racists can't tell the truth holy shit.
>>744634952Not on my watch, they won't.
>>744634996So you'll defend one racist because he's apart of some alleged "oppressed" group? Got it, good to see evil is entirely situational based on whether your in the oppressed group or the oppressor group, and one can never be evil in the oppressed group.
Roy's reasoning for wanting in the tower is even weirder because he has a heavily protected metro tunnel home surrounded by feral ghouls on all sides. Bethesda games are shit and have no coherence whatsoever, but if they did and Roy actually took the tower, it would be a dump with no electricity within a week because his retarded ghoul friends couldn't keep it running like the educated/wealthy humans that lived there.What is keep Roy from going to Megaton either? There are ghouls everywhere there.
>>744634996Ghouls are disgusting they stink like corpses and pieces of them fall off on the floor all the time, that was clearly the biggest issue.
>>744635123You can't even give an honest rebuttal, now you're using strawman instead of owning up to the fact that you lied. Mental fucking illness>>744635204Yeah I know. Tenpenny's people have a right to reject them just on that. Tenpenny himself still dies in my playthrough though, because he kills random people from his tower and was okay with nuking Megaton
brainlet:>you must and help the ghouls because they're like le hecking refugees!midwit:>you must kill the ghouls because they're like le hecking refugeesMe, a genius:>you must help the ghouls because Tenpenny is an angloid so he gets what he fucking deserves
>>744634996brown detected
>>744635412That is the rebuttal, idiot. Roy is a racist, regularly uses racist slurs to refer to all normal non-irradiated humans, and immediately threatens violence when he's told to leave. Peacefully I might add, because the residents of Tenpenny reserve the right to who they let into their community, and a bunch of ticking time bombs and their racist shithead boss need not apply.
Most people don't know about this interaction.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OA-Jhfqp3A0
>>744635470You can kill tenpenny on your own, you should because I can't imagine sharing living space with an anglokike.
>>744634996Shut up tranny
>>744635538>>744635539Mental illness. Seek help
>Mental illness. Seek help
>>744632924the idea is that tenpenny tower could accommodate the ghouls so rejecting them is essentially just being racist. at that point, in the wasteland, you're free to try to conquer their hill.
>>744632674Powerful, OP.. I suppose it's just le heckin morally IMPOSSIBLE, then!>>744635129Roy is kinda nigger coded, he never thought THAT far ahead.>>744635747>it is mental illness to not want to take in smelly, rotten people who can go feral any day now!
>>744632674So true xis!
>>744635747
As someone who uses the tenpenny suite as a safe house to store my crap. Hell Naw, I'm not living next to ghouls.
Consider the following
>>744632983fucking no there isn't
>>744637481OH NO NO NO NO NOT MY HECK GOOD GOY- GHOUL!
>>744634806Unironically would have a lower chance of getting a wasteland STD from fucking nova 50 times raw. also at lease she could was the cum stank out ghouls are just rotting corpeses you would have to be turned on by rotting flesh to even get hard let alone finish
>>744637481>murder is okay provided you call your victims bigots first.What a strange morality system...
>>744637601he's right, megaton is a shithole
>>744635747>if I say the phrase enough times people will believe it's trueThis isn't xitter you absolute nigger faggot
>>744637843You are in a cult and you have mental illness.
People still talk about this but nobody talks about any of the quests from Fallout 1 and 2.
>>744637920No they just say those games are actually good.
>>744637870What cult? What mental illness?>>744637920That assumes people have actually played Fallout 1 and 2
>>744634806For me it's Zombie Jew-chan
>>744635747Large nose, Cry harder.
>>744637481>Consider the followingEmil Pagliarulohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bi51-wjcwp8And you idiots are trying to make sense of Fallout lore - while this hack was the quest designer for Fallout 3 and the lead designer and writer for Fallout 4
>>744638260Is he the one who wrote the ghoul child stuck in a fridge for centuries? That was pretty fucking stupid.
>>744637920There's nothing to talk about because most of those classic quests were well written. In F1 Gizmo is a scumbag bastard that wants you to kill his competition. He is evil, and the man he wants you to murder is relatively good. In contrast Roy is an absolute selfish bastard that wants you to murder people so he can steal their home, and he even wants Megaton nuked despite being full of ghouls,>>744637601 and for whatever reason his alignment is good.How careless bethesda is with their worlds, their characters, and their motivations just drags everything down.
>>744638489How is megaton "full of ghouls?", You mean the singular ghoul in the pub? lolDon't you have a big empty desert to go wander around in?
>>744638590I played it with mods and there were generic ghoul npcs wandering around megaton, maybe those weren't vanilla. I haven't played it vanilla since the 360 days so my memory is a bit foggy.
Tempenny somehow (when the only lore we got of Europe is that they have zero fuel) moved from Bongland to America, and chose to live in the middle of an irradiated wasteland with no resources to harvest or ways to grow food and where people use bottlecaps as currency. He then took over a tower and turn led it into a condo for the wealthy, (wealthy in what? Bottlecaps?) that would rather live in an irraidated wasteland instead of using their resources to move somewhere else, to collect rent, (paid in bottlecaps).And people pretend to take this quest seriously so they can get offended over it.
>>744638680Only Gob is there in vanilla. I get it, i play with alot of mods too.
>>744638828None of the settlements in fallout 3 seem to understand the concept of resource logistics.
>>744638828about as egregious as mr fantastic fooling the entirety of the NCR with working their most valuable asset.
>>744639071It makes sense though in his case, the NCR is extremely corrupt and falling apart at the seams trying to fight a war it lacks the logistics for.
>>744639071I didn't know Mr fantastic was involved in running hoover dam.
>>744638828I don't know why people get so worked up over bottlecaps, currency is whatever everyone agrees has value and bottlecaps are a stand in for water bottles, same as paper slips and weak metal coins are a stand in for goldOther than that yeah it doesnt make much sense to leave bongland and come to the US since they presumably aren't as irradiated as the US
>>744639135Weak excuse, they would have their top minds working at Helios One. Mr fantastic, in a realistic world, would've been outed first week. I'll admit i dont mind it cause of the funny interaction, in the same way i dont mind tenpenny.
>>744639071He passed all their speech checks, nothing they could do.
>>744639146Hoover dam is not something they need to develop into a superweapon, anon.
>>744639183>they would have their top minds working at Helios OneWhy? It's irrelevant compared to hoover dam.They aren't aware that it's connected to a superweapon you know, otherwise yes they would be focused on it.
>>744639071>their most valuable asset.he's not? helios 1 is at best a stopgap to their power issues, if they can get it to work great, less power needed from the dam that they have to pay for
>>744639227They aren't aware of that retard. As far as they know it's just a power plant, one that is much smaller and less important that the giant dam nearby.
>>744639243>>744639236>the superbeam powerweapon that powers all of vegas isnt the most valuable asset.lol
>>744639261Maybe because they put MR fantastic in charge? Duh
>>744639274ah you're being retarded on purpose, my bad
>>744639071to be fair the NCR was looking for an expert to run that plant by asking on the streets
>>744639274>if I keep ignoring how the NCR does not know about the superweapon maybe I'll win!
>>744639158It isn't so much that they use bottlecaps, it's that the guy is supposedly a businessman and chose to move to a place that has zero tradeable resources and uses a currency that surely isn't accepted anywhere else in the world.
>>744639274nobody knew it was a super weapon that could power all of vegas but father elijah and the bos turned on the killdroid security system before they left
>>744639328I'm not the one who put mr fantastic in charge, so no. Maybe the NCR would know what they had if they put someone with a brain on the job.
>>744638159would
>>744632674>we tried playing niceFuck no
>>744639321>>744639358Maybe sure. But as far as they know it's just a tiny power plant next to the much more important giant one, and aren't going to waste important resources on it.Maybe if you move the goal posts a few more times you'll land a shot.
>744635747Metally ill troon kike, opinion discarded
>>744634996You are not entitled to live with people that don't want you to. Defending invasive parasites isn't moral leftard - quite the opposite.
>>744639405I wasnt the one who changed the goal posts though. My entire first point is that its silly mr fantasitc fooled the best minds of the NCR. all for a funny line. The goalposts were changed the moment NV fanboys got all panties twisted about "they didnt know!!!@" , well gee, i wonder why they didnt know when they put someone like mr fantastic in charge, lol. The enclave would've found out what helios one did day 1, even without old world knowledge.
>>744639456The best minds of the NCR aren't involved in anything to do with Helios one retard-kun.
>>744639518>Not getting the pointDo you know about the lore of helios one? The lengths the ncr went through to take it from the brotherhood? You are telling me they cant spare a couple good scientists to the place they just sacrificed thousands for? lol, ok bro.
>>744639456>fooled the best minds of the NCRthe best minds of the NCR are unaware of his existence
>>744639552Thats... Kinda the issue, anon. I dont know if you guys are purposefully missing my points, or what. And i am the one who got accused of pretending to be retarded, lol. lmao, even.
>>744639343>and uses a currency that surely isn't accepted anywhere else in the world.You aren't doing any trading beyond the immediate vicinity in the post apoc world unless you're some big dick faction, and like i said bottlecaps are just a stand in for water bottles, the majority of the wastland trading is done by, well, trading, with caps to even up the price, someting the games never really represented wellAs for him, i guess he was hoping he could merge with some major faction, found squat and decided that the rest of america was in a similar state and tried to make due with what he found
>>744637491Retard
>>744639594the head of the NCR Mojave administration is general Oliverall of the civilian personnel answers to him because it's a military occupation general says that everyone goes to the Dam, to the point where the NCR lost critical crossings to the Legionhe doesn't give a shit about Helios and doesn't spare more than a couple soldiers because it's not the Hoover DamOliver is also a friend to the president so no one questions himeasy enough for you?
>>744638159I'm going in.
>>744639456>My entire first point is that its silly mr fantasitc fooled the best minds of the NCR.You mean some trooper going around door to door asking for scientists and being baffled by complicated words and one scientist with an inkling of that the poweplant can do and wants to keep under wraps?You should probably play the game instead of relying on loose TikTok clips to serve as your lore dumps
>>744639769Sounds like bad writing, desu. And people like you give emil a hard time.[to be fair emil is bad and i hate him but f3 and nv have an equal amount of silly shit in them, its only NV retard fanboys who like to pretend their preferred fallout game is perfect]
>>744639797I've played new vegas dozens of times, anon. f3 and nv are my two fav fallout games, whenever i finish f3 i start nv. Dont pretend to know me, retard. >>744639828My point stands, its bad writing. The NCR is corrupt, not stupid.
>>744638408To be fair, it was really stupid, yes, but also a reference to Indiana Jones
>>744639797>one scientist with an inkling of that the poweplant can do and wants to keep under wraps?That's another good point. The best minds of the NCR are well aware that the NCR should not have access to a fucking superweapon.
>>744632674Total Roy Death
can't believe these threads make me want to replay this quest and fallout 3 entirelyI don't have time for this shit
>>744640178Glad to be of help, anon.
>>744632928its american retards larping as trump voters. just move on bro
>>744637481Genuinely why did they do this?
>>744640331No idea. Sometimes the karma/stats dont reflect the character well, like an example is caesar having 4 int despite creating and running an empire.
>>744638260This guy is still coasting on the clout from his Oblivion work.
>>744640379Lmao true. Although my guess is that the Karma is correct for the initial stage of the quest but maybe they forgot to make it change after Roy kills all the human residents, or maybe it's a glitch idk.
>>744638260Based Emil carrying Bethesda's writing to this day
>>744640590god i hate him so much.
>>744640590HATE RAIDERS
what is the mental illness called when you really really really want to live with people you consider evil and hate?pretty sure you need literal brain damage to override the urge to be far away from them instead
>>744640609I love him so much
I didn’t like Tenpenny Tower and would usually just waste everyone
>>744640379Isn’t the theory that his intelligence is fucked up because of his tumor?
>>744641059No it was just a simple oversight, Caesar's mental health clearly hasn't deteriorated that much by the point of the game
>>744641059I dont buy it because he has no in-game ramifications to his speech, ability to lead, etc. If he was acting stupid, i could get it. Having migraines by itself dosnt lower IQ, so i think it's most likely that whoever put his stats into the GECK jsut didnt like him as a character, or was an oversight.
>>744640776Megaton is undoubtedly the better player house in FO3
>>744641059That explanation would make a lot of sense for the TV show. But not the game
>>744641146No it's not, lol. Not only is the tower nicer to look at, it has it's own theme jingle. And you have a top floor suite, with a balcony. The only thing megton's house has going for it is you dont have to go into a hallway for a toilet.
>>744641146>dark rusty metal shack>better
>>744639828I will agree that NCR incompetence in NV reaches hilarious degree and it's just a cop out excuse to create half the quests, but comparing it to Emil is going a step too far man
>>744641059the theory is obsidian had 18 months to make the game and making biblically accurate distribution of tag skill and SPECIAL stats visible only in geck or using specific console commands wasn't the highest priority.
>>744636045Your house could accomodate cockroaches too, idiot.
>>744641289Fair enough, but its still a present factor that many nv fanboys like to ignore. Nobody who loves f3 claims it's loved for it's writing lol
>>744641225>>744641264It has way better storage and was more fun to decorate with all my loot than the tower
>>744640379meanwhile the Bear and Bull man has 10 in everything, including Int and Cha
>>744641289NV's writing is definitely better than Emil's but it's still only good by video game standards, which is not a high bar
>>744632840Do you think he can see us? Get it? See us?
>>744641371>storagelike, one or two extra containers? lol>more fun to decoratesubjective
>>744641396Thats what makes me believe it was a cheap jab by some liberal idiot at the studio, but i have no proof to backup that claim.
>>744635412>he kills random people from his towerAnd the player doesn't?
>>744641524Never confirmed, just assumption. You dont kill people in a safari hunt.
>>744641524Meant reply >>744641551for>>744635412my bad
>>744641352honestly I probably could be called a fanboy for NV as I still replay it regularly, but I have never completed the game for the NCR because I consider them to be a joke faction
>>744641627My first playthrough was NCR and i regretted it by the end, i just wanted to be le cool military man.
>>744640590I took care of those raiders. Not for you though.
>>744632674Are you a >BOYor a>GIRLno other option, degenerate
>>744639914That only makes it even dumber, like, that's looking at someone jumping off a bridge and thinking to yourself, "I'm gonna do a flip before I hit the water."
>>744642025The sole reason trannies hate F3 so much btw
>>744642025for sex, I choose the girl
>>744642025remake gonna fail cuz they will remove this or add >AS A JUST BORN BABY I PREFER TO REMAINS SILENT
>>744639059Bethesda has absolutely zero knowledge of logistics, time and scale. They have demonstrated this time and time again in each of their games.
>>744642324We went over this, anon. The draugr make and light the candles and they use the hidden path back to the entrance to bring in coins that were made after they got entombed.
>>744634996You will never be Afrikaners
>>744637481Pretty sure they didn't overthink this. The ghouls being murderers was meant to be a twist despite it being obvious, so Roy has good karma because good players are expected to immediately side with him against the heckin bigots. You get bad karma for killing them because you're only meant to do that for evil reasons, not because you saw through the ghouls.All the complexity in this quest vanishes when you realise Emil made it for 75IQ retards.
>>744642229It should be Type A and B, 1 or 2 makes it seem one body type is second to the other and that's dangerously offensive.
>>744643641this lolzero chance they will make men type 1
>go into the Megaton city pub for the first time>Evil McAsshole twirls his moustache in the corner>"hey, vault dweller, we've never seen each other before, but would you by any chance like to nuke this town">"the reason? oh, not at all, we're just doing it for fun"And people are still discussing this shit, tying to make sense of characters' motivations and goals in this game. It's just non-sense. Someone in Bethesda just said "wouldn't it be cool if the player could nuke a town" and they just went with it without much thinking. And I bet it's the same with vampire quest, children town, the tree of life, ant-man and bee-girl, etc. It's fucking retarded but at least it was entertaining. Although discussing whether some options or characters are "evil" or not is mental illness.Shame about the gameplay because it would be fun to discover how retarded the plot can get but it's such a chore to play this, I can't do it.
>>744632674>Play by their rules>Get shot>Go violent on themAnd the cycle of hate is perpetuated further...
>>744632674I side with the ghouls just because Tenpenny wants to blow up Megaton.
>>744639551They took it from the brotherhood because Elijah was a retard and put all his troops there IN THE MIDDLE OF THE WAR WITH THE NCR
>>744634996>freedom of association is evil chud, you HAVE to accept doing business with the heckin rotten flesh psychotic niggerinos!
