>playing Skyrim>get to hearing about the Markarth Incident n' shit>wow, Ulfric handled this in the worst way possible>he basically did everything he could to fuck up the Reach and invite the Thalmor into Skyrim>but I guess that's ultimately on the Empire anyways, since he's just being a son of Skyrim>play some more>get to the embassy>read the dossiers>"Yeah, so basically we've had direct contact and control over Ulfric for a while">"He proved his worth and was especially helpful with how he did the Markarth Incident">oh wow, I take it back, the guy's a total glowie>"He's become generally uncooperative to direct contact since then, but we can still do it if need be">"This is no issue though, since he's still doing what we want, and he's open to our help still">"Just don't contribute too much. He's so much of a loser that we might help too hard and accidentally end the Civil War, which none of us want">lol, wtfHow the fuck are people Stormcloaks after reading that? Do they just not know how to read? Is this the famed media illiteracy?
>>744632686>>"Yeah, so basically we've had direct contact and control over Ulfric for a while">"He proved his worth and was especially helpful with how he did the Markarth Incident"you made up this part
Not a spy, just an incompetent leader and loser. Even in the tutorial Ulfric was running away with his tail between his legs trying to escape Skyrim
>>744632814>After the war, contact was established and he has proven his worth as an asset. The so-called Markarth Incident was particularly valuable from the point of view of our strategic goals in Skyrim, although it resulted in Ulfric becoming generally uncooperative to direct contact. For Ulfric to BECOME uncooperative to direct contact means he had to have BEEN cooperative to direct contact, and even then he's only generally uncooperative, not completely shutting them out. >>744632957Multiple things can be true. Across playing the game, it becomes more and more apparent that Ulfric is just a loser in every regard. Like have you ever noticed that the vast majority of the Holds either are for independence or are completely ambivalent towards it? It shocked me getting to Morthal and it's like "yeah we don't give two shits about the Empire, also fuck the Thalmor. We're just doing our own thing in the swamp out here." The guy couldn't convince a room full of people that were already on his side because he's that bad at being a Jarl, and his first response was to kill the King who was fine letting him speak his mind in such a shitty fashion.
I just don't fucking care anymore, elves deserve more than men and I am tired of saying they do not
>>744632686pretty crazy to think how empire could have prevented the future much more costly stormcloak rebellion had it just done its actual job and crushed the forsworn themselves
>>744632686Ok but he has a Taller Thalmor mommy
