shooting up keeps the demons away (literally)
>>744636472Why though?
How do I escape an ambush of 5 people with shotguns?
>>744636802You either walk away and pray for good RNG or facehug one guy so he takes some of his colleagues' pellets and pray for good RNG.Sometimes it's just checkmate, one of the worst things in roguelikes is knowing you're dead but you still have to take the next turn.
>>744636657they're attracted to human misery, human happiness pushes them away
>>744636936Happiness is smoking, drinking and shooting up drugs?
>>744637174hell yeah brother
I'm really starting to lose it. I'm running out of medical supplies, but everything keeps giving me an infection or bleeding me out>>744636908>Sometimes it's just checkmate, one of the worst things in roguelikes is knowing you're dead but you still have to take the next turn.It was supposed to be a difficulty 1 mission so I only brought a pistol, so I guess I learned my lesson
my first mission after tutorial and it's only 2 floors and i've spent an hour just fucking fighting endless enemies and im not even done with the objectivewhat the fuck is this game, it's such a slog especially since enemies aren't a threat right now also i'm about to restart with increased inventory because holy fuck is it tiny as fuck
>>744637225Just a heads up the difficulty skulls are kinda retarded. They influence things such as number of floors, floor size etc. but Power concentration divided by number of floors is a better metric. It still doesn't tell the whole story (faction power and tech level), but it's a good starting point in early game.They said they're looking to tweak that this weak but it's been the same shit for a long time in early access apparently.
>>744636936Gavvakh must flow...
Turrets you can place are the best thing in the world. Helping the demons do their silly rituals at floor 3, eating the human flesh cause I'm out of canned food, late stage quasimorphosis starts and a baron appears. Stand at the door to the ritual room, place two turrets, shoot up waves of demons, baron appears, gets webbed (???), realize the demons doing the rituals are helping me fight the demons attacking me and shoot from behind my back. When the baron is close, swap places with the ritual guy and he tanks like a champ while the turrets cast swissium Cheesium.Get a brand new pact. Leave. Mission success. I wonder how much more reputation until late stage demon invasion becomes friendly to me so I can abuse it.
>>744637225Difficulty is a massive spook, it is all about power concentration. I just did a Tez 5 difficulty defense but it was just 600 power concentration so it was piss easy. Had to kill like 6 demonfags myself whereas the rest were killed by the allied goons.
>forget to change to crouch>escort dies while I'm lootingDumbest way to fail the mission for me so far.
>stop the ritual>oops you picked wrong turn here? Welp, now you're not getting in time and ritual is complete, fuck you
>>744637326>>744637545That's helps a lot, thanks. I'm thinking I can get away with only going in with minimum gear because it's only 1 skull, but I guess I should actually start bringing in more firepower
>>744637594In a lot of cases you can as long as you get a decent ambush on the first guy you spot so you can steal his clothes. I've done some minimal gear runs that escalated into decent gear.
>>744637561I always leave the VIP in a safe room until I've cleared the floor, then go get them really quick and run them to the elevator, repeat for each floor.
>>744637225always cook up a ton of sorbent whenever you can't make anything else and bring 10 to every mission. You can throw it away at the end if you need more inventory space and it allows you to use rags and plastic to heal all wounds without the risk of infection, just eat a sorbent if you start getting infected.
>>744637446fuck yeah I love leading barons into my death room
I finally left mars and the second mission on venus had every second enemy transforming into quasimorphs.Managed to get to the final floor, but the transform chance was 100% at that point, and the entire floor instantly ripped itself apart and replaced everyone with quasimorphs.I actually held my own for a while, but something started degrading my accuracy. Couldnt hit point blank with any of my shotguns and eventually got killed.Still won because the quasimorphs must have eaten my target somewhere else in the floor.What is the accuracy debuff when the quasi-shit starts to stack up? Can you prevent the mission-wide buildup or do you just have to rush the objective before things get too crazy?
>>744638191I thought it was safe but the spiders came from another room.
>>744638356RIP, quasis are nasty fuckers. If you find a defib laying around you can use it to res the escort target, look for those defib boxes on the wall. Then if you know you're going into an escort you can bring one.
>>744638292I haven't had much issue with accuracy directly because of high q-meter, but being addicted to stuff fucks up your accuracy pretty bad.
>flawless run>become unstoppable>30 hours in and die due to being retarded in a story mission (totally deserved, was asking for it)>5 death in row since then because I'm too used to playing beefed chad thundercock and my new operators die from sneezingFeels bad. Should have planned for eventual succession and now I crave for a restart.
>>744638292>Can you prevent the mission-wide buildupsome consumables reduce Q-levels, easiest ones being smokes but alcohol, various drugs, some food (watermelons...)
>>744638543>some consumables reduce Q-levels, easiest ones being smokes but alcohol, various drugs, some food (watermelons...)Is there any lore explanation why those stop demons from spawning?
>>744638731same reason they keep the demons away in real life, you might not be slavic enough to get it
>>744638731I don't think so. My headcanon is that since we're the ones that woke up the demons there's a link that exists and if we lose our grip on reality or experience some form of bliss it gets weaker. Maybe you have to read The Rose of the World to get it. Or be a slav, kinda like Darkwood.
>>744638731
>>744638731feel bad? problemsfeel good? no problems.
>>744638731>>744638791>>744638910>>744638994its a shame you cant use the recreational bot to bring it down a ton
>>744639108Crankes Hard-Daily
>>744638731>>744636936When you get blues, you produce Gavvakh which is like a heroin to quasimorphs. It also both empowers them and blurs the bramfatura borders.Speaking of Gavvakh as in-game item - it's Morphine v2.0 and once you get ship's freezer upgrade I recommend keeping a stock of it and spamming it on absentia planets as it makes you immortal basically.
>Laser sight + sprinting + operator that gets 2+ rangeWho the fuck needs critting when you can burst niggas from half-way across the room for 95% hit chance while sprinting.
>>744636472I should have started the game with double backpack size, even with buffalo its not enough to carry all the stuff I need for melee guys along with the loot I findIts so stupid their knifes take up two slots when I found out the knuckle dusters took only one(uno) slot
what happened?
>>744640220Shitters got in
fuck i just realized what was bothering me about this gameit's the fact that while it is extraction game you cannot do a quick run to gather random crap because it's all missions based (unless you wanna fail missions but who the fuck wants to do that)and missions take for fucking ever to do because it's a turn based game but also because there are hundreds of enemies everywhere and looting take shitton of timethis game needed like 10% of the enemies that are stronger rather than what we have atmoh i hear you say "well use custom difficulty", well how do i know it'll be balanced (as much as normal difficulty is balanced lmao)
>>744640020i wish sprinting wasnt so annoying with doorsi hate having to constantly switch between movement modes every second
>>744640441Once you learn whats valuable you dont even really loot anymore. You just gun down whatever is in your way and quickly scan for goodies and move on. Clearing every floor is a waste of time that will just give the demons more chances to get in.
>>744636472Nice shot
>managed to fully upgrade the floor scanner>no longer have to bumble around looking for the elevator for twenty minutes every missionThank fucking god, I can finally play the game
>>744640074>to carry all the stuff I need for melee guysDo melee implants like claw hand has durability when you install it? Since naked fists have no durability, I assume that to be the case.
>>744640838>I can finally play the gameAbout that...
>>744640220The game has some balance issues and the UI is kinda ass. That and extraction games are somwhat normalfag-centric after Arc Raiders whereas traditional roguelikes are a niche genre.
>>744640892i dont think so but now you need some robot repair parts when its gets damaged in battle, so not really worth until you have a bunch of repair items
>>744640220>>>744576426>devs rushed 1.0 and cut content>tippled down on different difficulty modes>nothing beyond tutorial to ease-in & prepare new players>no meaningful interactions between faction besides few story missions (what the fuck was even the point of making faction sim?)>piss poor amount of actual questsI hope I put the reference right.
Do floors have a set number of enemies or do more spawn over time? Not counting quasimorphs that spawn from death.I got over 30 enemies in a single floor.
>>744641324There are set numbers of guys, but sometimes more spawn when you complete an objective.
>>744637174If there were happy spirits they would feed on drug addicts getting high, as happiness is not a permanent state of being.
>>744636472>Washing down my expensive wagyu with vodka made from shit while high on morphineI think the heart failure would get the operator first before any niggermorphs even notices him/her/xer.
what the actual fuck
>>744641783Nothing personnel, kid.
>2 of the same tileset right next to eachotherbig oof this is 1.0?!
>>744641783>doesn't stealth whenever there are no enemies to feel them outdeserved
>>744641783kek, I think they were in that room with you the whole time
>>744641245Nope.Just for you. A "knife" with infinite durability.Can't throw it though.
>>744642057i mean when you get damaged with wounds, you cant heal it anymore with normal medkits for human parts since its a cyborg part right?
>>744642057For clarity and to avoid misunderstandings, I'm not holding.
>>744642131Nope, medkit heals everything as long as it's inside of you.
>>744639108>use recreational bot from inventory>fades to black>fades back in>missing 500 calories>a bunch of scrap and rubber in your inventory in place of the bot>-200 quasirmorphosis
>>744641783Something like this happened to me, but it was one guy that somehow materialised behind me and hit me with a pipe. I thought maybe it had some stealth shit, don't remember what gear it was carrying
>>744642218kek
Is there any reason I SHOULDN'T be best friends with the spooky aztec demons? I mean they seem pretty cool when they're not actively murdering you.
>>744642532Their armor looks like shit
>>744642532They don't have sexbots
>>744642550gay comment
>>744642532Their gear and rewards are meh.Also they are supposedly crazy, degenerate warmongers who are addicted to the spiritual misery juice humans produce. BTW, does anybody know if you can unlock quasimorph gear blueprints?
>>744637225>running out of medical supplies>he didnt join the valkyrie squaddr jones dr jones wake up now
>>744641279>rushed 1.0You're insane lolI do wish they had a bramfatura menu like they do for faction menu and their tech.
>>744642848>You're insane lolNTA but yes if you are announcing fundamental changes to the game three days after its 1.0 then it was a rushed and arbitrary release.
>>744642848>You're insane lolThey literally cut out planets. Not a planet, but planet[[s]].
Started playing, so far so good, but what the fuck is this class? I understand nothing.
>>744642709do you need levels in a certain skill to do this with a valkyrie or can they just do that fresh?t. havent found a valkyrie chip
>>744643132they are saying they are going to change how things are PRESENTED not change how they worki assume that means they will change the mission skull ranking stuff so people dont get confused by it anymore
>>744643132>Literal skill issue qol stuffLol
>>744643132>"fundamental changes">look inside>qol for casualsalright
Is it normal for the rate of q-level gain in the Moon to be much lower? Because it feels slower than in Venus or Mars.
>>744643154A melee axe class that turns you into a rockstar in places with quasimorph presence.
>>744643154terror pack is the class you use when you want to sign a lot of pactsit makes the pacts stronger and lowers the downsides
>>744643291>>744643301So since I am still at the start of the game, basically useless? I don't think I had an option to sign a pact yet, or rather I have no clue what a pact even is.
>>744643215thats max but with lvl 2 i think you already have a much cheaper first aid recipei duno about everyone else but i struggle to get morphine for the regular first aid recipe
>>744643278It has been a long time but somehow I remember the Moon in early access being particularly hostile when it came to ayyliens. But maybe it was the literal other way around
>>744643247>>744643250>>744643276Not that any of you insincerity niggers will present an apology.
>>744643386That timeline is terrible. Especially since they use low poly 3D models with a filter.
>>744643386I will present you with medication
>>744643247How you present your game is extremely important. Most hard games are only hard because they obscure information from the player and can become incredibly easy once the obscured systems become clear. You are underestimating just how much of an effect presentation has on your gameplay experience. So yes, fundamental. And these are changes, especially the trading, that people have been asking for since at lest 2024 which is when I became aware of the game. So why announce them 3 days after the 1.0 release? Why are they able to release them within the upcoming week? It wasn't a finished release. This is just the beginning.
>>744643334>So since I am still at the start of the game, basically useless?Correct conclusion. To be fair, you could b-line for Venus and try your luck there... But you will, most likely, just suffer.
>>744643334yeah. Just stick to Scouts of Hades for the time being, they're the jack of all guns. You can think about specializing once you have the items to justify a specific build.
>>744643386>Game has post launch contentNo way?!
>>744643416>>744643139So this also doesn't count?
>>744638731Smoke actually makes sense as native americans might 'smudge' sage or new age spiritualists might cleanse an area by creating smoke from white sage.Maybe its harder to manifest with smoke particles floating around.Positive emotions from the other stuff makes sense too.
>recent reviews dropped from 85%+ positive to barely 70% after 1.0 launchWhich youtuber played this game and got casual normalfags to buy it?
Man, never go against daychem without anti poison meds
>>744643425I'm a retard and in no way versed with this genre of game, if you're having ANY trouble at all understanding it's systems you need to launch your onw brain's 1.0 patch.
>>744643386what are you trying to prove with this
>>744643518>mental gymnasticsLike who are you even lying to? This is clearly not trolling as there's no wiggle room to cook bullshit, so what even is it? Just being retarded?
>enter floor>walk 10 steps>get this achievement>cool, it means floor is clear>open door>three guys with pipes charge at mewat
>GUYS, POST LAUNCH CONTENT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE GAME IS UNFINISHED IT'S A TOTALLY DIFFERENT THING
>>744643740>quasimorph threads are about to get its own schizophrenic tourist shitting up the placelove slash vee
>>744643579dunno, but I know that I have watched people fail to understand the game who I've showed it to even though I thought it was self explanatorythat being said someone probably started review bombing it because it isn't black or gay or trooned enough
>>744643782You can't refute it so you start slinging dirt, eh? Concession accepted.
are flamethrowers good against those demons? I kept receiving fuel as reward and lotted flamethrower from a target, thinking about going back to Venus to fight horde more
>>744643873don't go away seething secondary, just go awaybut remember to take your meds
>>744643784>someone probably started review bombing it because it isn't black or gay or trooned enoughThe troons are reviewbombing a woke game?
>>744643782This is a great sign that the game is actually really good.These schizos don't bait bad games because no one cares about them and will more than likely agree with their takes.
>>744643885When you encounter them right click on them (probably twice since you need to do it once to face them) and check their resistances.
>>744636802Shake loaded with stun grenades. your class has war crime, ghost killer, dirty shot etc. Deploy something and hope they soak.
>>744643579Just type Quasimorph on YT: HypeTrain (publisher) sponsored a handful of big ecelebs that make semi-humorous videos. Each video has several 100k views.
>>744644051I know, I remember that they are at least immune to poison, but not everything is about resistances, shotguns have knockback that helps to get melee guys away but idk if flamethrower will perform as good
2x stack or 2x backpack or both?
>>744644246x4 both and always wear a buffaloyeah its loot goblin time
>>744644256tourism accepted outrage secondary
>>7446442462x stack. 2x backpack is way too busted and inventory management is non-issue from the beggining of the game. 2x stack is also a bit OP but it's basically less busywork for basic mats at the start of the game. I haven't checked if it allowed unstackable items to be stackable though (that would also make it busted).
>>744638292When you're close to the edge just bite the bullet in advance in a cleared floor by chewing on human flesh so you can face the baron with your preferred cover and no interruptions.
>>744640536There's the running specialist merc Jan I think who has interact while running and 10% dodge per tile moved in a turn.
never smoked or ate flesh because I thought it's just modifying my character chances of turning into quasimorph. I guess I should bring smokes with me on missions with more than one floor
>>744644313>another cope droppedGot anything else left?
>>744641783you move 2 steps a turn, they move 3
>>744644193Fire spreads so if you set a room on fire and close the door the enemies will typically all roast to death. But if they start coming after you through the door keep your distance because they can set you on fire too
>>744644420Yeah that or booze or morphine. Sorbent fixes alcoholism so booze is easy but it's heavy
>>744641935As long as it's the room with like 4 server racks thanks game.
>>744636472Why does it feel like having like 400+ q-morph instantly makes every human enemy on the floor implode and turn into xenomorphs?
>>744642057Does krav maga work on it?
What's stopping me on assassination missions just stock up on food, get on floor my target is at and then just wait until quasimorphs kill him?
>>744644602Assassination targets usually have good loot
>Three floor espionage with 1500-ish power concentration>Go in there with just a pistol because I more or less wanted to get a feel for how much 1500 is>Going smoothly getting decent gear>Morphism getting high>Enter floor three and I basically don't meet a single human>Just demons everywhere>Path to the item is littered with bodies>A damn slaughter house>Get the item with little resistance and a buffalo pack along the wayThe last floor really gets the blood pumping.
>>744644602That still relies on luck. And once you're at 900, the demons will beeline to you.
>>744644321Alright 2x stack it is. Thanks.
>>744643154Pacts are superpowers gained from slaying quasimorph barons or as high tech rewards from Q factions. To use them requires charge which is x units increase in qmeter(so unusable in absentia). Using them increases bane. accumulate enough bane and it give stacking debuffs. Use breaking the pact(item) to remove pact(and accumulated bane) when the debuffs become unbearable or you want to switch pact.Pact department lets you upgrade/sidegrade your unused pacts.
>>744643687it just means you succeed the floors objective without killing anyone, sometimes quasimorphosis can kill mission targets and enable you to succed the mission by essentialy waiting
>>744643782I knew one was brewing after reading the thread yesterday. It seems impossible for people on here to voice their dislike for a game and then moving on, it is like they have to continue to enter every thread and remind everyone that they don't like the game.
>>744644639>Go in there with just a pistol because I more or less wanted to get a feel for how much 1500 ispower concentration is divided by floor. So 1500 with 3 floors it means you face 3 500 power concentration floors
i'm guessing the enemies you face will use the same gear that their current tech trees have? i didn't want to do a mission for some chem company because i looked and they had some acid gun i didn't want, then went against them and instantly got shot by it and died.
Is dodge more important than high armour?
>>744644740can't be I didn't even reach my target point to defend yet, I still had to kill 20 enemies on that floor before extraction was available
>>744644776Yeah, I think their elite units can even use gear from one or two tech levels above their current one.
>defend ritual>some nobilis dude shows up>1 shots me from full hp....ok
>>744644602If it's a colnode it won't qmorph. Also you don't need to wait, just eat enough flesh to 800q and hug the elevator. VIP and ther guard usually have premium faction gear though.
>golem group class>has krav magaBit on the nose ain't it?
>>744644772Makes sense and that makes longer missions easier if you don't count the demon horde that will await you on the lower floors.Unless you chain smoke that is.
>>744644852interesting that you can choose to obtain a faction's gear by both helping them or killing them. unless the faction gets too weak i guess.
>>744644519I haven't tried it in 1.0.An older steam thread says it works:https://steamcommunity.com/app/2059170/discussions/0/685238726928991470/
Is melee just not viable later on? I keep running into enemies that can 1 shot kill you from decapitations, to just absurd damage, is it really all about using melee as supplementary? I was hoping I could go full zerker.
>>744636472Is melee a meme?
>>744644949Throwing melee weapons seems pretty effective early on.
>>744644387that sounds fungotta go fast
>>744644991That's actually mostly why I'm asking because they take so much space and you have to retrieve them after every throw
What are sex bots good for (in game)?
>>744645056Someone should make a mod to fuck them to reduce Q-morph.
>>744645056fisting you or your enemies
>>744645042If you wanna do it a bunch there's dedicated throwable items, like nails. Throwing your melee weapon is more of a last resort thing not something you wanna do constantly.
>92% chance to hit>miss 6 times in a rowYeah, this is lying to you about percentages isn't it?
>niko medich>unit 317>some shitty silenced pistol got from a mission oncelove me a spy mission
>>744645056Head gives you detection without stealth. Legs give 4ap run.
>>744645264There's a 0.00002% chance of that happening btw. Lucky you!
>>744645297Powerful thunder thighs
I boughtaydid the game. Hopefully one day I'll stop being a shitter and making it to endgame.
>>744644897On the nose?
>>744645297holy shit what? i'm disassembling my metal harem immediately
>>744637321Skill issue
>>744645404Golems are Jewish constructs and krav maga is a Jewish martial art
>>744645345How fortunate of me! I took that rng hit so others may prosper.
>>744645264I had the same thought when playing yesterday (missed three 95% shots in a row). Either the game has an XCUM-like obfuscation of actual chance to hit, or the chance to hit doesn't account for dispersion (would be retarded).
why is every mission 4 floors long these are impossible without hauling a liquor store with you
>>744645603Hopefully that is not the case, that would be rather stupid.
>>744645264>>744645603I've noticed a bug. If you hovering over enemy and see the chance to hit but then change your stance (walking to sprinting for example) the chance changes but the UI isn't updated until you hover over the enemy again.
What are the new weapons they added in 1.0?
>>744645672I personally keep 2 morphines and an addiction medicine with me if I'm going to tackle 4 floor missions. It's better to keep it under 500.
>>744636472>1 dataminer has 3 uses nowholy babygame
Imagine if you could make meat out of organic materials and not plastics, then you'd never have to drink or smoke again
>fourth floor>the elevator leads to a long hallway with multiple entrances>my Espionage target is in a room at the end of the hallway>mfw slowly making my way through a long corridor filled with enemies and constant reinforcements with cover after cover evaporating in front of my face under a hailstorm of bullets, weapons breaking down fin my hands from non-stop shooting, no medkits, no regen from satiety, and half of my hp gone already from the previous three floorslast thread somebody was asking about how much "busywork" this game had, referring to a negative review about how you have to manage AP and positioning, but this is not busywork, it's literally the most engaging part of the game when shit gets real. This slow and painful crawl over the bodies of my enemies was one of the most fun experiences I've had with the game after ~100 hours.
>>744645810So far I've seen the hardcore marksman rifle from Church of Revelation which is bishop with higher max damage but lower crit damage. Whiteout cryolaser(cold/beam hybrid) from Sunlight coven. Ancom basically has a new lineup of 42. guns including a silent pistol with collimator which makes me think unit 317 is ancom-coded.
>>744643579sseth
Normal seems a bit easier now & Unfair seems a bit harder. Anyone currently deep into 1.0 Unfair run here? If yes - thoughts, pls.
>>744646573that was 2 years ago man
>>744646573Sseth made his slop two years ago. The recent influx is because of sponsored eceleb videos like these ones.
>>744636472>roguelike>look inside>inventory management simulator
>>744637225Skulls are a meme it actually indicates floor sizes. The actual difficulty is power concentration vs number of floors and the faction you are against.A 1 red skull with three floors and power conc of 3000, means each floor is getting 1000 points of enemies, with floor 2+3 being cramped as hell.Now if you chose a faction to fight whose guns arnt your armor type, your armor may as well be a coffin.
>Can make synthetic meat out just plasticOur future right there...
shake it baby
>>744646058I fully agree. The tension on the last floor is exhilarating even if it goes "slow".
>>744645264Depends on how it handles RNG seeds.
>>744646953>custom difficulty>backpack x4, stack x4done you solved the issue
>can't even produce stuff on my ship because i chose random starting stuffuh oh
>>744647078Hell yeah
>>744647837damn she kinda thicc doe...
If your backpack durability is getting low repair it with cloth and shit. It will damage max durability but you DO NOT want your backpack to break
>>744647561you're missing the point and your solution is retarded
Are pacts worth it?
This doesn't make any sense, church of revelation is at tech tree 1 while ancom is at 6, power concentrates are on the wrong sides
>>744648076>extraction game about looting>complains about inventory managementand i'm the retarded one?
>robbery>dealing with a fuckton of enemies>manage to fight through all of them>gathered a bunch of upgrade materials and some extra of the stolen resources>exhaust most of my health options fighting through one last corridor to get to the elevator>successfully evac>get do debriefing>half my inventory is gone>backpack broke during the last firefight>didn't even keep the mission items so I failed
the basic head implant is actually quite good-1 quasimorphosis is awesome
>>744648990were you carrying that shitty cloth sack?
>>744649117Stacks with the merc that has -1 quasi as a talent
>>744646716I bought it after the sseth vid and I've almost 300 hours and I didn't play 1.0 yet
>>744649169No, a tourist backpack. It was already fucked up once before in that mission and I patched it up, but I took so many shots in the last fight it broke again. Got I wish I had the blueprints for a buffalo or at least fighter pack
>>744648776No, that just means that if you fight for AnCom, Church of Revelation will spawn a lot of lower tier enemies. That's why a lot of people have been telling them that how they portray their difficulty is fucking retarded and now they're scrambling to tweak it after release.Basically power concentration is "budget" and each unit that spawns takes from that budget. When a mission has a high power concentration/floor but the enemy faction has a low tech level, it means that to "expend" the budget the game will spawn a ton of low level enemies. Following this logic, an enemy faction with high tech lvl but a mission with low power concentration/floor will most probably spawn per floor a handful of high level units and a few low level ones before budget runs out.I think skulls influence the chance to spawn enemies equipped with gear close to their current max tech level but I'm not 100% sure.
>>744638731the demons are all adicted to gakhav, which is produced by humans who suffer, happy toughts means less gakhv and the less your clone/the boss piloting it attracts themas for why its you who decides, the mc is kinda special, its why barons go after you and quasimorphic entities seek you out
>>744649264In their tongue you are gakhavkin, quasiborn!
>>744643369I just checked. I was using Lowrance all along. Qmorph never reached 80 even in high intensity engagements with this guy.
>>744649117yeah try to get an SBN shorts implant and pop that bad boy inside the cyborg head and use it on the guy that does -1 quasimorph -3 q level is pretty damn good
>>744649356>dreamer
>sunlight laser faction tech is 2 with only around 2000 power>send my fresh clone on run to beat infiltration squads with 800 power, 2 skull mission with 2 floors which should be a cakewalk>the enemy spawns niggas with laser sniper rifles and laser shotgunsok these devs really need to work on the estimated difficulty of these missions, i turned down faction growth to 25% and somehow the enemy is scaling faster than i am
>>744646716I watched this video and this guy never says it's sponsored outside of a throwaway line at the end of his intro. Aren't ecelebs supposed to say clearly when they're sponsored, in the description of the video or at least checking the option when uploading so it's notified at the start of the video?Quite a jewish move, I suppose this guy doesn't want his community to slam him for asking for patreon money to make sponsored videos (which net him even MORE money).
>>744648618Generally no. But if you don't use it there's no debuff so it maybe useful as a last resort.
in a mix of distraction and overconfidence I brought the wrong ammo, forgot the sentry, forgot health itens, food, everything... tried to hunker down in a room but didn't work. RIP Francis.
I msised the reply on the other thread but>wait, project silverfish is an extraction shooter?I dont know what the fuck the other anon is on about. Silverfish has nothing to do with extraction shooters. Its pretty much just a stalker style game, simply more open ended and nonlinear. More about stumbling across content and secrets than being railroaded by a main quest, though it does have an indirect main quest
>>744643579twitch vtubers making abhorrent tactical errorsthe thing is, when it's a streamer fucking up, it's content. when a retard buys the game and fucks up, then the game is shit
>>744643579I bought it on friday and immediately loved it. Gonna leave a positive review to try to make up for the normie shitters.
>hydra24 chip>laser sight: shots within range have 95% hit rate but cannot critat first I thought that's kind of shit but does it work with every shot in burst fire? might even give it an upgrade if it does
>>744649731do you think the wall of flesh that spawns when you kill a bunch in the same spot is helpful or harmful? i guess if you are melee it hurts youpersonally i think its annoying because it just puts all the loot in one spot and doesnt let you disassemble all anymore
>>744649775looked it up and seems intrestingif people didnt come here attacking the game and instead suggesting similar games, this board would be much more bearable
>>744650079it works while ur sprinting too
>>744650079you get one of those when you first do the tutorial too its a pretty sick backup gun
>>744649731another death right after this one and I lost the rest of the good shit I had. Already feeling like starting another run lol
>>744650079It's the best gun to use in the early game really.
>>744649731am i the only one who rearms clones at the end of a mission so they'[re ready for the next?
>>744650185>>744650243Neato, baking a few of them I do remember the tutorial gun also having a collimator but I lost it, so maybe I'll hold onto the upgrade for now
So I just keep flying around doing missions and unlocking tech?
Where can I get lenses?
>>744636472I really want to like this game but the fact that enemies that look exactly the same (sometimes the exact same enemy for quasimorphs) can have different speeds really annoys the hell out of me. You kill TONS of goons in this game and also die incredibly quick which forces you to manually check the speed of every single enemy.It's so tedious that it eclipses any potential fun for me.
>>744650473And upgrading your ship yeah.
>>744636802Run. Find a good place to hole up and turn the tables
>>744650473Some factions also have special work for you besides any story missions unlocked by the secret data. 25+ relation with civil resistance starts one. 5 robberies with unchained belt starts another.
>foot gets amputated 10 seconds into the mission
>>744650487dismantling scoped weapons i think
>>744650523pretty sure you can see enemy movement points next to their hp, since 1 tile = 1 ap
I convert to religion of flamethrowers
>>744650769Agni missiles for me
>>744650523are you literally right clicknig everyone instead of looking at the pips next to their health?
>>744650523>can have different speeds really annoys the hell out of me.That's one of the things that pisses me off. It'd be one thing if certain enemies had implants that give them extra AP at the cost of some of their other stats (basically the same as you) but for some completely ordinary dude to just have four fucking AP at all times? That's bullshit.Honestly my other main gripe is the RNG for healing wounds. Nothing fucking gayer than going through an entire stack of splints trying to treat a single fracture only for the game to basically say "haha fuck you, enjoy taking 3 damage with every step you take until you die"Shit sucks because the devs' have some solid ideas but they're clearly too god damn inept and retarded to pull off their vision. The only saving grace the game's got going for it is that it's got mod support so the community can at least fix things the devs are too stupid to.
>>744650487i find them laying around in the research sectors or whatever they are calledthe maps with all the labs and green goo tubes
what does the emergency capsule look like? I've used it twice and never seen it
Can I take implants out of dead niggas?
>>744650769where can you get flamethrowers? only got one of those smaller ones with like 20 durability from a random reward
>>744651071Check your map, it's marked on it.
>>744651072Yeah, equip a cutting weapon in either hand and click on the body parts
>>744651106I killed a guy that had flamethrower turret that I disassembled into flamethrower
>>744651108ah I just found it, landed in some area I hadn't explored yet
>>744651072Yeah by amputating whatever limb it's attached to. Whether or not you'll actually get it is completely RNG though. Most of the time you'll just get a spool of wire. Of all the cybernetics/implants I've tried to remove from dudes I've gotten a grand total of two: one robotic blade arm which kind of sucks and a servo foot which also sucks
>>744650670>>744650942Is this an option in a menu or newly added or something? I don't remember seeing any pips.
>>744651217its been in the game since like 0.8
>>744651217The two pips under the enemy
>defend the crates mission on a fuckhuge maps>q-morphosis rising, spawning demons that fuck with the enemy AI>800+ now>still can't seal the mission because some fucking guy ran away who the fuck knows wherewat do
what is the load weight mod and what does it do?
Throwing nails is so fucking funny
>>744651462Reduces the weight of items.
>>744644949It's a cost saving measure. For easy missions you can literally deploy a naked clone with nothing but a knife and clear it for zero cost and zero risk if you fuck up and die.
the game doesn't explain almost any of its keywordswhat the fuck is Essence?
>see some lowly 2AP having faggot mook with a combat knife standing near a few barrels>got an assault rifle with good range so figure I'll have some fun with this one>shoot the barrel closest to him>damages him and sets him on fire but doesn't outright kill him>he runs over to the other barrel, stabs it, and kills himself in the ensuing explosionHow the fuck did that happen? Is there some kind of enemy confusion mechanic I'm not aware of or was it just some weird AI bug?
>>744650152I love the meat wall just for the flavor
>>744652038what does a meat wall taste like
I just got my first engineering tech tree unlock, should I get weapons or armour? I assume weapons
>>744651598I realized it yesterday and its hilarious >Shoot at singular dude in room>Suddenly now 6 dudes>Run back into the doorway >Throw nails south, run north>Camp corner for a few turns>Dash check to spot 5 dudes staring at the wall the other way >Fire saw disk, decapitate 5 dudes including myselfI love this game
>>744651000there are meds that boost heal chance, antibiotics + splint alone is 85% chance to heal, if you bring the calcium tablets it guarantees it.
>>744651815>zero cost and zero riskisn't losing a mission a cost? Since the other faction now gains power, and you can't repeat the mission anymore, so you lost the opportunity to get standing with the faction you chose.
>>744651918yeah I had this happen too lol, I was really confused
>>744644949Just treat eclipse blades as a sprinting run and gunner that can save ammo with melee when there's no ranged enemies that can shoot you by the time you reach them They also get free heals on getting wounded but they use up a lot of hunger because of their skill procs uses satiety, and sprinting will use up a lot of it especially with 20kg+ of gear
>>744651897It is just the ephemeral spirit substance made manifest in the physical world.Gavvakh is just loosh but it comes from a book instead of a movie and running with the loosh farming concept minus rich old people dancing while wearing childrens' faces.
>>744652496Eclipse blade is the Isabella class.
>unlocked phoenix brigade class>also have blueprints for a flamethrower
1 missclick and you lose the mission. Fuck does it sometimes piss me off. Want to enter sprint and run from a pack, accidentally do a move in sneak, WELCOME TO STUNTOWN
game takes infinite time just to move and change stances too slow
Who just won the lottery? I DID!
>>744636472
>>744649498Read the description, retard. It says it's sponsored literally on the first line.
does this shit acutally work?
>>744653824I'd say it's 50:50
>One mission gave me the mats for first level scanner, weapon upgrading and the Taiga shottieWorthwhile weapon to upgrade? I have a few spare chips and it seems like a sensible gun to upgrade, it's decent and very cheap (and a shotgun)I also got the chip for the SR-2M AR but that needs lenses
>>744653503Lucky you
>>744654090For shotguns do an ammo upgrade, since most of them can't hold much
>>744653503I found a buffalo chip way back in like 0.8, shit was cash. Chasing that high now again
>>744654090>>744654678the saiga can hold 12 or 14 shot, I'd recommend he rather safe the materials and upgrade armor. Or if he insists on weapon upgrades, for this shotgun I'd take damage
>>744650357That's a smart idea.Personally I wish you could do saved loadouts so I didn't have to keep dragging medkits, bandages, etc. into my clone's inventory after every mission.
>>744651368Sometimes it's because they leave a turret and the turret can't walk to the crates.
>>744654820Ooh, I didn't realize he was talking about the saiga. Yeah that's the one that doesn't really need an ammo upgrade lol
>>744654820Sadly I don't have any armor chips, just a few communal battered glory chestpieces left, pants and boots are procured on-site.It's a little grim but it works.
>>744649348Underrated
>>744654845there is mod for that
I camped a corner for so long I shot down the steel wall behind my enemies just with stray shots
I really hope Daydream chems are good because I accidentally did a shit ton of missions for them and they adored me before anyone reached tech 2
Secret tip, you can craft cheap weapons at these benches across the maps and they spawn with a full magazine, in case you run out of ammo
>>744655274What's it called? I'm gonna download it right now.>>744655554Daydream gives you a lot of guns that deal poison damage. Poison damage is pretty good in the early game against humans because only Daydream, Tianming, and the occasional medical mook have resistance to it.Be warned though, robots and quasis have high or even total resistance, so you'll want to pack a second damage type (you should do this all the time regardless).
>>744655969quick gearmind you i haven't tried it
>take out elimination target>he has a buffalo packI am cum
am i just fucked for clone/class/item chips if i wanna do a tez/featherd only run because fuck humanityi know they can randomly appear but at least in the beginning its rare as hell to find one
>>744657426You can buy them from some factions if you don't antagonize them too much
>>744649241Untold levels of retardation on the devs' part if true. There's TWO difficulty indicators level on a mission and NONE of them tell the whole story (or any story at all really because apparently you need to do a power concentration on number of floors division and that's still incomplete).
drank one single quad damage and now I'm a full blown alcoholic. will this shit carry to the next mission?
I feel like no one talks about how rad it is to have Aztec demons enough
backing daydream chems and dithley kinda seems mandatory
to make one thing clear: weapons can use different types of ammo of the same caliber as long as the gun uses said caliber, i.e a shotgun chambered in 12 gauge can use and switch between slugs and buckshot roundst. retard that didn't use the fancy SMG he picked up because he thought it can only use 9mm explosive rounds>>744658414i don't think so, nicotine addiction doesn't seem to carry over at least
>>744657919I think it's fine for difficulty to be made up of multiple components, but the skulls just confuse people.Otherwise you can think of it as(power / floors) * tech = difficulty per floor
>>744658414No, your guys get fully healed after the mission. I think even if you amputate a limb you get it back. This is why you always bring sorbent though, it heals alcoholism.
>>744658794so that you can have drug-fueled sex with a robot?
>>744658858it sucks that they don't write the tech into the description of the mission though
>>744658794I always antagonize the fuck out of daydream, fucking scientist queers
>>744658947Yeah that's one of many ui faults.
>>744658653the setting is a large reason why picked this game upextra-dimensional eldritch sci-fi but the eldritch monsters have their own politics, factions and squabbles is kinda underused tbdesu.
>managed to make grasshopper overtake tezctlanYee haw motherfuckers
>>744657426>take control of minor faction>???>free chips
>Conquest mission>Demon niggers are getting real uppity>Decide to just let them clear the last floor for me>Jump to a 1000>My first Baron spawns and I can't evacuate>howbadcanitbe.jpg>One burst of his faggy rainbow sparkles bring me down to near death>Try to back away and heal but he chases me down and ends meWaaaaooow how was I supposed to know??Finished the mission in any case so not all bad.
>>744659363To think that dying after completing a mission counted as a fail until recently
>>744659363Had the exact same experience, I completely ignored the demigger counter cause the threats weak and I had more than enough ammo.Suddenly press T to check objective "Hey buddy, can't warp you outta there, good lucky!" >die in one attack fully geared to the guy did less than 20% of his health while I could attack
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3705314255 haven't tried it yet though
>>744644834if your dodge goes down into the negatives it gives the enemies crit chance if it makes their shots go above the 95% accuracy cap, i think its better to just have enough armor for 30-40% resist early game since full heavy armor and big weapons will put you at 18-20kg
>>744636472>be me>get interested>look up the dev studio>Ivan Shiteaterovich>Boris Dickcheesov>Igor ButtmuncherovskiI guess I'll be taking my money somewhere else.
Any of the mercs particularly good outside of the starting few?I feel like whenever I read stuff on this game it's all just Percy The Generalist, Isabella the Knife Rapist and whatever that lootgoblin one is called.I have a metric fuckton of toxic weapons and ammo but there doesn't seem to be a class for that, sadly.
>>744658914chemical weapons are greatand fighting daydream is worse than fighting quasimorphsdithley simply has better energy ammo and weapons
>>744659876pirate it
I'VE DRUNK AND ATE ANTI-QUASIMORPH FOOD YET FLOOR 3 IS ALREADY 872 Q-MORPHS, HOW THE FUCK DO I REACH FLOOR 4?
>>744660469install the cyborg headearly on its almost mandatory, the drawbacks are laughable in comparison to -1 q-morph a turn
>>744659876Good. You'd probably have a nervous breakdown from all the Russian stuff in the game.
>>744660596and now I'm running of bloody ammo and weapon maint while morphs are just coming and coming and coming
I got some sort of giant minigun robo arm I can implant and now I want to make a fully cyborg'd mercPercy with Martian Mech Inf class? I imagine this is a pretty late game thing to work towards though
met other venus guy who said I should trigger qmorph in venus but after he popped up it just went back down to grasp without a fight. Was that intended?
NiceAlso, does anybody have trouble finding rubber in this game? I was finding loads of rubber back in early access.
>>744653028don't forget to splice in pyromaniac from tonkong.
>>744661571Yeah it's hard, scientist outfits are the most reliable source I've found
why the hell do listed prices for each inventory not include whatever the Extra charge is?
>>744655969They also have cold guns like the skadi. They make good phoenix brigade since they have battery based cold and poison.
>>744657426Befriend the pirates at least. At t10 they have pirated copies of hexarch chips.
>>744660743>all the Russian stuff in the game.Thanks for supporting my point. Russoids always include what they consider witty references to that godawful soul-draining void they consider to be "culture". Another bullet dodged.
>>744661028Percy with a bunch of augs plus martian mech is goated. Swap one of the perks for the "Pocket Artillery" perk from Angels of Spades if you're going to use the gun arm. It gives a 20% damage bonusYou can farm a lot of robot parts by chucking ARs into the recycler. Combat ARs give the gun arm or military arm, which are both good. Recreational ARs give the rubberized leg, which gives you 4 AP while running.
>>744662208Noted, I will continue amassing augs until I can release my budget 40K terminatorThanks
When do the storylines kick?Are they all mutually exclusive/missable or is it well explained when you reach a lock-out point?Can I back up my save and experience all of them?
>>744662697After the tutorial you get a chip with some secret data and depending on who you hand it to will determine which questline you get. They're mutually exclusive, you could hold off on giving it to anyone until you're more advanced and then back up your save and do all the questlines but I don't think it's worth it
what difficulty?
>first time ever playing a game like this>get only a pistol and a few bullets against the chem minor faction.>have to kill a few scientists>2f>*Something broke containment*>we resident evil now >kill mutants and soldiers alike, kill scientists, die to poisonPretty fun for my first run.
>>744663007Easy. Once you learn all the intimate details of the game, restart and play on Normal.
>swap out cobra's bodybuilder and that horrid ass extra ap at 20% heath for eclipse blade dodge and spaceborne ghost dodge bonus at sprint>turn phoenix brigade into a tank energy weapon class class with +45% resist after taking meds and lizard for pain in place of illuminating and more tech recipes at benchesThis shit is really fucking useful.
>>744643782We really need a system that bans these subhumans and keeps banning the the instant their IP and posting habits are detected. Holy shit it's every fucking thread at this point.
>>744649731Bro, your nades?
>>744662121How is it any worse to what americans consider culture?
>>744662807Wait what? I assumed the chip would be some rep boost.Glad I didn't trade it in.You just put in in the regular trading window?
With no name, we go onward Armed with scraps, we will hold out. By the originals, war unending Contracts we honour, forever-bound. (Francis) Eternally maintaining weapons (Isabella) Poisoned in soul and flesh (Percy) Eternally enduring; knife, bludgeon light, bullet, poison, or shell. All burning in hell We’ve all been forsaken(Cursed by the past) Tormented yet brazen (Down to the last) A duty weathered down to dust We serve because we must (Priya, Mirza) The war goes on, our numbers stay, Counting deaths instead of days. Give your life to earn freedom, May the original, forever ashamed. Coms ring out with static Signals lost, they never came Here we’re left to dwell in silence Lamenting our name is not our name We’ve all been forsaken (Cursed by the past) Tormented yet brazen (Down to the last) For our CEO we hold Our stories, never told (Edward, Niko) Gather ‘round the staying embers Will our false light ever dim? If it fades will they remember? All our numbers? This broken hymn? Long decayed, the ones who cursed us Their bodies rotten in golden crypts They have stolen all our splendor Father, mother: their's to give. We’ve all been forsaken (Cursed by the past) Tormented yet Brazen (Down to the last) Our vigil, until the stars burn out A fate we cannot count
>>744663472>muh americans
Sort of a side note but I've been looking at either Quasimorph or Ostranauts to sink some time into. Anyone have any experience with both that can weigh in? To me the gameplay of Quasimorph looks better while the world building and setting of Ostranauts stands out.
So Feathered Masks is the only path who gives and sort of proper endgame? And it's kickass kinda like pandemonium in DCSS?Why the fuck would I pick anything else, except for completionists sake?
>>744663472>but muh AmericansAsk me how I know you're a russoid.American culture, good or bad, is still an organic product of an actual nation. Unlike you lot, who are survivors of Mongol rape and gulag camps; the only thing you produce is crudeness, misery and inchoate animosity.
>>744663570>no argumentConcession accepted.Russian culture is still better than macdonaldization of culture that is shipped worldwide.
>Hating on Russians on /v/>When they crank out endless vidya kino
>>744663916Austrian actually. Nice tro tho.>organic product of an actual nation.Lmao, more like a commercialized product of your corporations.I mean technically America would be an ideal place to develop a game like Quasimorph, give they live in a megacorp dystopia, although the lack the introspection, sense of irony and dark humor to make it.
Holy fuck, can you people fuck off to /pol/ and leave us alone? I hope all of you get conscripted and get droned.
>>744663007>>744663067You'll restart so soon, I've played on normal with the only difference being that I changed how fast corpos scale to 25%... and holy shit I'm a demigod and they're all still in tech 1 and now I'm pondering a restart. So don't play on anything lower than easy trust me, it gets boring quick
>>744664178Sorry, I only replied once to the /pol/cels.I will not entertain any further discussion.
>>744651150How’d you dismantle the turret ? Do you need a wrench equipped ?
>>744664618With a knife.
>>744664178This. I sincerely wish these hypernationalistic retards would put their money where their mouths are and die for their country so the rest of us can enjoy vidya in peace.
>>744663589Ostranauts needs a lot more time in the oven I'm afraid, the 1.0 release was kind of concerning with how rough it feels. A lot of quests are broken, AI is still abysmal. The first few hours are fun if you like obtuse UI's and learning how to flick switches in the right order but after a while it becomes too annoying to scale up.
>>744663589I've only played Ostranauts a little bit but I think the gameplay was very boring. It's a "tedious job simulator" in the same vein of Voices of the Void except that in Ostranauts you don't even do the job yourself, you just click on a thing and wait until your guy finishes repairing/hauling it.
>>744664910>>744664918appreciate the feedback bros, I'll grab Quasimorph for now and check out Ostranauts once it's had a few more iterations
>>744665026If you just like the idea of salvaging (Which Ostranauts is mostly all about) thenhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/846030/DV_Rings_of_Saturn/Might be worth checking out, you control a ship instead of a person though.
>>744663554Yeah. You also get some nice gear from the faction you give it to. As far as questlines go as far as I know you can give the chip to AnCom, Realware, Tzectlan and the Civil Resistance. Maybe other too but I'm not aware of it.
>>744663589Played Ostranauts like a year ago and while I found it really cool it's also incredibly jank, and I say that as someone with a very high jank tolernace. It's also more of a job simulator game at it's core.
>>744665489The buffalo bag I got from that will stay with me forever
>>744665489No that's it. Each of these factions has 2 ending according to their wiki.Since I plan to go with the Feathered Masks for more endgame concent, I guess I can sell it to any faction, as their storyline doesn't seem to be unlocked by selling the data, just being unpopular with Tzectlan.
>>744665765I used to think that before I lose my buffalo bag too...
I wish the game told you what stuff broke down into. I was running light on scrap metal before I realized that you can dismantle nails for an insane amount of scrap metal.Any other items better dismantled? I know toxic ammo gives you acid
>>744665895the turrets can give you some sort of minigun i heard
Finally finished the tutorial.
>>744665895I wouldn't preemptively destroy stuff unless you need the resources and it's easier to carry that way.For example you can break down goo for acid, but you can carry 60 goo ammo, but only 20 acid.As for interesting stuff to break down... prosthetics usually give armor parts and sometimes weapon parts making them quite valuable imo
>>744662121How can Americans be so fragile?
>>744665895Most of the trade goods can be disassembled into what they say on the tin but it's better to hold onto them until you can recycleIf you mouse over weapons and armor it will tell you what they disassemble into
>>744666173Yeah for sure, I just meant I had a need for junk and had 0 but had about a dozen stacks of nails in my cargo hold.>>744666443Noted, must have missed it, ty.
>>744664664CoolThank you
>pick mission to defend comm arrays from tectlzan>kill the squad that spawns to attack the last array>mission won't complete>a pair of the iron maiden duggur morphs spawned in corners of the map and blocked the objective despite not doing anything>almost starved before extracting after I managed to find and chip them downCool game
>>744666684you suffer this when enemies put down turrets in defense and during those missions
>find the most gimmicky shit class ever>cant find phoenix brigadeim sads.
>>744666813>find the most gimmicky shit class everwhich one?golem?
>>744666960foudn that one too, i mean Cobra, which is like, Axe and Knife melee and throwing class.
Sniping isn't super reliable but it sure is fun
>>744667118Perfect for Percy
>>744667118Oh, that's actually goodwhen you get rid of those two shitty useless perks
>Round a corner>Instakilled This is every fucking fight still. I love this game but fuck I'm so fucking sick of "SURPRISE FUCKER EAT 80 DAMAGE IN ONE ROUND"
>>744667334>not sneaking to magically see every enemy through the wallsAm I missing something? Do enemies gain stealth later on?
>>744667823Anon sometimes you're just walking down a hallway to the next objective, stepping over corpses and you turn the corner and there's some killfucker Marine staring you in the eyes at 5 feet away.
>>744667334Levels have infinitely respawning enemies or just a set amount always?
If anyone needs lenses you can get them from geoscanners
>>744667962That's the point, that never happened to me while walking in sneak mode. It magically detects all units in like 5-10 tiles around you and lets you loot with no action points used. It has no drawback and should be active 24/7 when not in combat
>>744637321im considering restarting the run also for increased inventory, but i just got the fighter backpack tech recipe but i barely see anything that gets disassembled into rubber so i can't craft it kek
can you play this with just a mouse?
>>744668272Yes
>>744668272yes, all the functions are icons on screen
FYI I'm saving these thread to read later when I'll get into the game (bought 10 years ago, finished tutorial, didn't really feel it, decided to wait for release)So keep shitposting to a minimum, thank you.
>>744667962You know how everyone got used to making sure they have 2 AP before opening the door, I am getting used to having 2 AP before rounding a corner as well now. Just swap into sprint or regular walk before a corner, no harm in doing it, and if there are enemies, you can just dip back.
>>744668439>bought 10 years agohello time traveller do I buy buttcoin
>>744668536My early runs were fucked from being too used to how stance switching used to work
>>744667303I'm not at that point yet, but can you make all 6 perks passive? In my humble opinion, actives suck dick.
This Rogue AR better sound like the pulse rifle from Aliens
is there a general rule on what to upgrade on mercs?
>>744669193But it's not an energy weapon
>>744669317Neither was the Pulse rifle in Aliens.
>>744669339Oh yeah you're right
>>744669208Get accuracy at the point where it doesn't suck for your weapon on choice and then either pump dodge or health depending on your build. Dodge fags will claim that everything other that dodge sucks though.
>>744669531*icantfuckingtypeshitpissnigger
>>744668862No, it's a scamBuy YesVidia shares
FUCK YEAH BABY
The space segment is making me wanna play freelancer
>>744669154Actives are absurd when they work. It just takes so fucking long to level because you need to activate them and they're on cooldown. The training upgrade helps with that though.
>>744670016I get reminded of SS13 whenever I see space on a map
>"tutorial" is hidden behind choosing to go on a max difficulty mission at the very beginning of the gameinteresting choice
I need more TINS and SHIT
>>744670349It's not that hard
>>744668179>It has no drawbackMain drawback is just that it's slow and shit like quasimorphosis might fuck you if you drag your ass around too slowly
>>744669708
Best faction to take over?
>>744671150A lot of people say Coven for the Archangel backpack but their HQ is also like a year out.I think I'll try Daydream this run, good selection of poison and cold weapons and meds
Vodka bros...
>>744671150What I wanna know is, if you take over a faction do you need to babysit all of their stations?
>>744671265I have the the bramfaturian engine. Does time still go on there or?
>>744671150Daydream is good sunlight is good if you can travel out there.I think grasshopper is sleeper good.If you don't wanna go too far you can just do planetbridge and their stuff isn't too bad.It's not great though.Maybe church.
>>744671335>I have the the bramfaturian engine. Does time still go on there or?When you enter bramfatura time disappears even from UI.
>>744671150How do you take over a faction?
>>744671802You unlock Proxy in the ship upgrades, then choose a faction. This spawns a mission to eliminate their leader. The leader is usually decked out in serious gear with seriously geared bodyguards, so you have to prepare carefully to succeed. But if you fail you can try again.
>>744636472I'm playing on normal. Died twice right in my first two missions, has been smooth sailing since then. Ventured away from Mars earlier (i think it was the space station near the Moon), got to the second highest quasimorphosis stage, wasn't too bad. I just use Percy with a shotgun on every mission. Also getting the parts for the scanner is a pain in the ass.
>>744668409>>744668412thanks.
>tfw you get blindsided after completing an objective by a quasi with a radiation beam that hits your unprotected ass for nearly 200 damage
>>744672525Been there. Multiple times.
>>744664618>wrenchthat would be great game design, but no. Only a cutting item.
>>744672690I guess I should make sure to carry enough drugs to reduce it to zero at the end of a mission just to be sure. I had a lot of morphine with me for management but didn't quaff it all or have enough to
>>744671275yeah, they had to find a use for that item!
So I need:>bandages for cuts>splints for breaks>meds for infections>water for fires>balm for burns/frost>cures for poison>cigs and alcohol for keeping the demons at bay>drugs for curing addictions>ammo for first gun>ammo for second gun>grenades for aoeSurely I'm missing some stuff as well. Anyway, where the fuck does my loot go? If it werent for the capsule I feel like I wouldnt be getting anything out.
Jesus. I'm here and it's still that fucking far?
>cleared floor 2 of 4>already burned through one of my two 7.97 stacks
>>744673049that's why you gotta risk it. Like only having 1 gun. Or play a class that heals wounds.
>>744673049Some of that you'll end up using up and not have it take up inventory space anymore. You also don't need to bring all of it for every fight, enemies tend to specialize in one type of damage or another. And many meds cover multiple categories, like sorbent can help you fight off alcohol addiction and cure poison (and infections) (and it's free)
>>744673049realistically all you need is splint/bandaids and maybe a first aid kit. infections naturally heal when the wound is gone and bullets are 95% of your wounds early and mid game.
Pacts can drop without filling the qmeter and summoning the baron?
>>744672716>great game design>wasting potentially between 66% and 16% item slots on useless just "loot enabler items"Thank god you guys aren't allowed near game devs or schools>>744673049>1-2 stacks of first aid kits>1 stack antibiotics>take appropriate not random weapon and you can keep secondary empty>grenades get consumed so they're free item slots>cigarettes get consumed so they're free item slotsHas to be bait or mental retardation
OH FUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK YOUgoddamn stunlock into a fucking energy turret FUUUUUUUUUUUUCK YOU
>>744673538My favorite is a flame turret in a 1x1 corridor holding a corner two tiles back.
When a clone levels up the passives in a class, are those "imprinted" into the clone blueprint and kept when it dies, or does the next printed clone start with unleveled perks again?
>>744673660I have thoroughly learned my lesson.Not even supposed 1 star difficulties are safe.I will never drop my guard again or make a single misplaced step.I will slaughter every fucking corporate fuck in my way.
>>744671265is the HQ what is mentioned in the info screen? My Coven Says Dark Flora in Deimos. But I do recall a previous version where I did have to go to saturn to take over coven.
>>744674016Ignore the skull rating of missions completely
>>744673951starts at 1 again, you can disable it in the custom difficulty but apparently it doesnt matter later on since upgrades let you level them before you even send out the clone
>>744673951Dying resets them back to level 1. You can unlock a training center later that lets you passively train mercs all the time.
>Sit in this corner with a pierce laser rifle and just mow down the lemmings coming at meDidn't have a side-arm so if they caught me with my pants down reloading I would have died but went well.
>try to exchange working clothes for money to by a basic chip>it automaticaly exchanges them for a shit gun and sime disksI see the trade system is still absolute shit since the beta
>>744674116the difficulty is so fucking randomno matter the skulls its either 100 enemies in one floor or like 20also the fuckers who praise the toxic gun, how? i did one defense mission and it went down to 50% durability and did less than the basic shotgun
>>744674283Sometimes that toxic gun tears through enemies sometimes it seems shit, regardless of resistancesThe acid piles it leaves behind are pretty good though, it is a very early game weapon after all
>>744674184you should since backup gun provide crit chance to your other guns.
>>744674283>also the fuckers who praise the toxic gun, how? i did one defense mission and it went down to 50% durability and did less than the basic shotgunUse the toxic shotgun instead.It's as it sounds like .
>>744674283>the difficulty is so fucking randomSee >>744658858Power is power concentration.Tech is the opposing faction's tech level (you can look it up on the stock market).
Managed to clear a 4k power mission! My reward by the way.
>>744674186you put trade good in and selluse credit from sale to buy in the other tab items of your choice.
WHY DIDN"T I BRING MY FLAMETHROWER AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>744636472>Freewoman is dead>pop a bonerwhy...
>>744674186Traded items get turned into credits for that corpo, which in turn you can trade for their technology that you can look up on the stock market in advance.Dunno what kind of drugs you're on about automatic exchanges since it only does that for the tutorial item and then never again.>>744674283Toxic early game is ass, take pierce weapons instead. Early game no enemy has pierce resistance and the AZ-96 oneshots most enemies with a single bullet. You can craft it on many workbenches on missions with scrap.But I think what matters most is to get your own blunt and pierce resistance up instead of increasing your dps slightly
>>744674493that means a lot of store credit
I expect a reasonable rate of return.
>>744674548pierce is super common since glory, cadet, and legend all have pierce resist.
Is there a build/class for toxic weapons?I love being a poisonous DoT nigger
>>744674548>Dunno what kind of drugs you're on about automatic exchanges since it only does that for the tutorial item and then never again.nta but it happened to me too onceI don't know why or where but it was pretty weird since that's the only time it happened
>>744674648phoenix brigade, but mod in improved status effect from valkyrie squad.
>>744674493>All those blue kits>0 melee buildsHope you get more use out of them than me>>744674639we're talking earlygame, only scientists or other mvp targets have glory, cadet or legend armor. Most have shitty armor with 0-12 pierce resistance total.And even those get melted by a az96 in burst mode.Plus you can fully avoid them by farming the science nerds, the mexicans or many other factions>>744674801I'm telling you it only happens once when you do the exchange with the tutorial item
>Try to upgrade something on my ship>Go to Spacecraft > Hangar > Upgrade > Capsule>Hover over the missing item so you know what it's called>No, it's icon is not a button, get fucked>Back out of 4 layers of interface, one at a time>Open the stock market>Open its second tab>Scroll and try to find the item you're looking for, using only its looks, and your ability to hover over everything manually>A search function? what's that>OK, you found the item. click on it>Now you can finally see a list of manufacturers>Yes, you can hover them>But no, their tooltip won't tell you how far away they are>No, they won't tell you how much credit you have with the station's controller, either>That's on an entirely different menu, silly!>The station may not even be controlled by the same faction when you get there!>The item may not even be available, either!>And you better remember to account for "Extra charge %"!this is a joke, right?
>>744675004Percy and Isabella are both good melee picks
>>744675020is good da?
This just in: chainmail can give rubber when disassembled
>>744674884Toxic ammo counts as energy?
>>744675020They do though? Click on the station and it'll show you where there are. Unless you mean travel distance. In which case, it's almost always a month or half away. A few if you're going to and from Saturn
can you repair an item with 0 durability or is it destroyed? Should I repair stuff before it breaks?
>>744675603You can repair stuff at 0 durability. You just might not want it to fall down to 0 mid mission so maintaining gear is worthwhile.
>>744675020The item is always available in certain quantities. The markup is based on reputation. >>744675603It can be repaired but it can't be disassembled
I just unlocked my first new Clone. Jacques Kennet. He seems like a run-and-gunner type with the extra bullet and reload AP modifiers?Would it be better to aim for SMGs with him then? Or shotguns or something?
>>744675553How important is the time mechanic, should I be clearing entire planet + moons + scanner missions before moving? Is spending a month traveling to buy a ship component going to make everything twice as powerful?
>>744674495>>744674548>>744675004
>>744676213The button always says "sell" not "exchange" for me. Wonder if it's a special thing with that station or faction.
>>744675004>I'm telling you it only happens once when you do the exchange with the tutorial itemI have not continued the tutorial outside of the intro mission so I can't really remember anything like that
>>744676213why are you trading from space and not on the station itself
>>744676416It doesn't matter if you continued the tutorial or not, doing the first forced mission gives you the item, if you sell the item, whether knowingly or not it will give you a predetermined stack of items
Bros...I got cocky...
>>744676547Never let your guard down, brother.
>>744676523>the first forced missionIs that the one against Civil Resistance on Mars? I skipped it for now.
>>744676547hope you didn't lose your big bag
>>744676513You can go down to the station?
>>744676354>>744676513ok, I think I get it now, only factions that are actualy friendly with you give you money, others just exchange, its still realy stupid, at this point why even have to option, you never get anything valuable out of it anyway
>>744676213You can't buy or sell items if you have a negative reputation with a faction, barter is the only option.
>>744676213Maybe update to 1.0 and disable your mods you disingenuous retardnigger
>>744676780you could in early access, I dont think you can anymore
>>744676848Worth noting that they'll give you credit, not money. Important difference being that the credit is only with their faction, and if you bring your relationship with a faction to zero they'll wipe any credit you've got.
>>744676642One of 3 big bags.I'm alright, it just hurt because the enemies dropped my first sniper rifle.
>>744676547Your countless victories beforehand ensured that your new start will go smoothly... right anon?It's not like you lost your only buffalo... right anon?
>>744676987>3 big bags
>>744677042You mean the 6x3 ones, right?It's not a HUGE bag, just a decent size for this early in the game.>>744677029Yeah I'm fine, see >>744676987I just assumed I would take less damage given that I wore heavy armor against the weapons my enemies were using.
>low danger esort mission>*yawn>the manager has a hereticnice, dont mind if I do
>>744677251Fix u backpack
>>744677316Don't warn him, let him feel the quasimorph
New thread up >>744676785
>>744676848>only factions that are actually friendly with you give you moneyI wish the game mentioned this somewhere
I NEED MORE BAGS
>>744676513>he doesn't have fast trading onwho the fuck wants to tediously walk to the merchant?
>>744637565You're telling me you don't have all the ritual spots and their corresponding trigger points memorized?
>>744677719anon there is literally a custom option for that
>>744677243Oh, having 3 fighter bags is fine, I'm not as jealous of that. I thought you had 3 buffalos.
I don't have any armor chips and everyone is just in jeans
>>744678238I started a new save on 1.0 release.
>>744678256If you have any armor packages you can disassemble them for armor. But yeah I'm mostly in the same position, you just gotta scavange what you can. Funnily enough the tutorial mission has a bunch of decent civil resistance armor.
>get that one missing resource>nearly unlock half the goddamn section
>>744678363Yeah, but at the same time I want to keep armor packages for upgrades. Trying to only use excess upgrade items
>>744678982Hey at least when you do get an armor chip it unlocks the full set.
>cover does absolutely jackshit and gets you killedWHYYYYYYYYYYYY
>>744679106Cover can be god tier.
>>744676547M-maybe this game isn't for me.Or maybe I should give up on trying to make melee work outside of the very earlygame.
>>744679223Yeah I struggle with melee a bit too outside of obviously great spots to camp in.I just want to chainsword through an entire level
>>744679106>50%-100% additional "dodge chance" against ranged damage is badCover doesn't work against melee attacks, that's probably why it didn't work for you
>>744679290I WAS BEHIND COVERAN ENTIRE FUCKING CRATEAND THIS ONE FAGGOT SHOT ME THROUGH IT OVER AND OVER AGAIN
>>744679286Even with a good spot, you can't just play it like a regular traditional roguelike with corner camping and such.Enemies getting up to 4 turns really fucks up that gameplan.
>>744675443No, but Daydream chems also has energy based poison guns.
>>744679348Some crates are not cover.My biggest issue with the game is recognizing cover at a glance, barricades are obvious but the rest are less so
>>744679446There's just degrees of cover
>>744679547No, some things that look like cover are not. The large rectangular shipping containers are not cover at all I don't think.If you use shift to force aim beyond them it'll show you if they have a chance of acting as cover.
Well this is fun
>>744679378>happily corner camping>mossad spawns a spider with full AP when I have 1 AP left
The game is really an inventory management nightmare early game if you don't get lucky with a backpack blueprint.At least let us craft a sack on the ship instead of having to rely on in-raid benches.
>lost two heavily equipped mercs to radiation damage back-to-back
>12.7 submachine gunthis shit isn't going to hit anything>>744680176Buffalos become ridiculously common on enemies in the midgame. Don't worry.
Me and my bestie feeling cute. Might delete later
adding insult to injury
This is it.Bring me the head of Sunlight Coven's head.
i totally missed there being an amputate every body part button...
