I'm done supporting ShiftUp.
>>744636659You never supported them to begin with.
k>>744636659
>>744636659>Their response was>TL:DR: seethe and cope this is the future of AI in gameslmao
I'm with them until they censor or age up our queen.
>>744636724
>>744636659Boo hoo faggot
You don't need RAM
>>744636659>No freckles
>yay AA games are back>oh wait no they're just going the soulless route to cut costswell back to indie games then
>>744636920Fun fact: neither do they, they already own more compute capacity than they know what to do withMost chips meant for AI will become obsolete without having ever been turned on
>>744636659What did he say?
>>744636849This nigga is going to pay for something that was generated for free lmao
>ShiftUp marketing thread #32190843291Nobody cares. The game isn't interesting. The AI drama isn't interesting. Stop spamming the board with pictures of this mid whore.
>>744637147He said he has been jerking off non-stop to AI-generated porn of Eve and Evie for several days and achieved enlightenment.
>gooks are kikesWhat else is new? Reminder that Worst Korea is a puppet nation of USA and the United Nations so in every aspect they learned from the best.
>>744637205TRVTHNVK3
>>744637205Noone asked porchmonkey, I WILL be boughtered Stellar Blade 2
>>744636659oh no another performative luddite lost! make sure to turn off all the electricity in your house anon, it's putting whalers out of a job!
It's the same cabal of libtard journalists protecting their libtard musician friends and their libtard game developer friends.This one is a double-whammy of clashing interests because Shift-up is "robbing" income from the libtard game developers and "robbing" income from the libtard musicians.Nothing new under the sun.
Jeet thread
>spamming "libtard"Good morning sir.
>>744636719fuck you
not buying the gamei will just beat my meat to the porn(not the ai generated one because they're all bad)
>>744637495>because they're all bad)Not the ones I've been making>>744637461You saved that from reddit
>>744636659>AI is making young people dumb fucking retards and that's err a good thing>good goy don't think just prompt yeees only prompt heheheLMAO
Total Luddite Genocide
>>744637647If you aren't locally hosting you're just a loser.
I like how ai is making retards even more retarded since i will be able to get all their money without even doing anythingMe? i don't use ai
>>744637646>nyooooo, you're supposed to be smart like me!>how smart am I?>heh>I'm a /v/edditor
>>744637368 Americans are a slave people
>>744636659The West has fallenTrillions must persih
>>744637706You've never swindled anyone, dalit. Pipe down.
>>744637198If it's good yeah
Korean gaming is finished, their stock marketing is collapsing. Like Japan they'll run out of oil shortly thanks to Trump
>>744636659>chink shill thread 900012Kys
>>744637589>>744636724>>744636849>ceo is a god tier artist that became a billionaire off his cool art>loves AI, makes AI art himself>sees people making AI art of his new qt3.14 waifu>"hold my kimchi">makes his own official slop music video>makes troons seethe>raffs and goes back to drawing asses I mean generating
Nodicki is back spamming again.
>>744637773>Japan is kill>Worst Korea is kill>China is slowly dyingEverything is going to shit.
Based polack chads saving /v/ by making jannies ban stellack thread
>>744637898He will never fuck you, tranny.
>>744637773>any day now
>>744636659I'm not.I don't play games for online brownie points, I want my sexy game and no ammount of crying about some music video or face will change my mind.
>>744638057>there's no oil crisis just listen to Trumps tweets!!!!
Kek shit up used to be worth double of what it is now in 2024 lmao. No wonder the ceo is using jeet to generate AI now
>>744636659Well, what was his response?
why do aibros think i'm going to pay 80 dollars for a game claude made for them?
>>744638412They deserve your money.
>>744636659Why are these specific threads almost exclusively full of trannies that were never going to buy the game anyway virtue signalling about "muh AI" and how this b-team side project of a music video now means "they WERE going to buy it, but they're NOT now!!! fr fr no cap!", or stinky fucking jeets that say the AI music video is a good thing and not a total waste of time and effort that could have gone to more gamedev?Personally just waiting to see more gameplay before making a decision.
>>744636659They couldn't get you to hate the game because "SHE'S A CHILD!", so now they're trying to get you to hate the game because "AI! AI! AI!".Fucking pathetic.Tomboys really did a number on these freaks.
>>744638593answer >>744638412
So does this mean we can also gen whatever we want with their IP?
>>744638639No that's theft.
>>744636659Yeah it's dead in the water, AIslop will never win.
>>744638593I like tomboys. Real tomboys. Not AI generated ones.
>>744638412They are entitled to your money, saar
>>744638671What will they do? Cry to get the data they put in the slop generator removed? I hope they keep using it so AI can perfectly recreate their art.
>>744638634Because you're just another FOMO slave faggot.Get in line bitch. And that's $90 plus tip.Also, you will never be a woman.
>>744638726Ok. So you like humans rather than video game/digital characters.That's not a hot take anon.
>>744638736>Buzzwords galoreSaar is mad
>>744638736i never bought the original stellar blade. it was sold as a DMC clone but it was actually slow paced no skill soulsparryslop. i hope everyone at shitup gets cancer.
After the video dropped, I looked around the net at other aislop and couldn't find any video that was better.
>>744638805>>744638812kek>answer this question!>answers>NOOOO NOT LIKE THAT
>>744637989only trannies hate him thougheverbeit
>>744638854It looks like shit and doesn't really have any direction. It's really just a sloppified mess of popular MVs
>>744637418kys libtard
>>744638776Oh no, I also like video game characters just fine. As long as they're designed and animated by humans. Don't you bury the lede here. AI shit just looks cheap and ugly and bland.
>>744638412You buy it because you want to play it? If you don't want to play it then obviously you shouldn't waste your money. I don't see how Al is a factor here.
>>744638735It's morally wrong for consumers to use AI. Consumers should only consume what they're given.
>>744639013keep crying bitch nigga
>>744638962Is there a specific thing Al could improve at to make characters that appeal to you?
>>744639003>I don't see how Al is a factor here.are you retarded? consumers provide money in exchange for labor. if you use AI and perform no labor your game isn't worth money. i can have claude make my own godhandlike if i wanted to.
>>744638962I guarantee you that there is content out there that you like that is 'AI' generated. Bad AI is easy to spot and looks dumb, yes. But that's why it's easy to spot - because it's bad. Good generated content has been permeating throughout media for a long time now.All these 'hardcore AI detector man' types just pick low hanging fruit as examples of why it's 'easy' to spot AI content, ignoring that there's obviously levels of effort put into the end result and many cases where generated content hasn't been noticed.
>>744639103Consumers provide money for a product. Labor for the sake of labor is worthless.
>>744639212>pretending to be retardedwhy are liberals always like this?
>>744636659If they're using AI then the game should be $50 maximum. The jeets shilling this still wouldn't be able to afford it though kek.
>>744639265Hmm... you might want to read that basic economics book.
>>744636659The Bethesda rally devs are the type of "people" that are against this video and also AI. Meanwhile Shift Up CEO is very pro AI and we can see his work. It's really not a hard decision to make on who you would rather support or buy games from.
How many times do we have to go over this?Some guy in his basement without the means to make his dreams come true: Using AI is OK!Big greedy corpo replacing able-bodied workers to sling out as much slop as physically possible for boost their margins by 0,5%: Not OK...
>>744639315I can hate both
>>744639353Can you?
>>744639349Who cares how the product was made? And why?
>>744639349I guarantee you have clothes that say made in China or Bangladesh or some other poor country. You don't care about child labor so I doubt you care if something is made by a computer either.
>>744639385Because it means the sloppification of the medium. AI regurgitates, it's best at replicating what already exists. That's antithetical to the creation of anything interesting and new. The people who are supposed to take drugs and then give you fresh ideas are the exact same people getting fired by execs who bet on AI instead.
>>744637368Don't care about any of this drama, still love Evie.
>>744639502>Because it means the sloppification of the medium.Are you happy with the current state of the medium?
>>744637198Recreate it then. AI is so easy make a 1 to 1. Oh you cant? Retarded pussy stfu
>>744638854>no frecklesNot my Evie
>>744639545No, of course not.But if you think we reached rock bottom, rest assured they're buying drills.
>>744636659the game had better not have DEI walking around everywhere in this cyberpunk setting.They already toned down the main character and now adding all this other shit will just make it a reddit game.
>>744639502>That's antithetical to the creation of anything interesting and new.The whole industry pre-AI was this way anyway. Look at the blight of 'remakes' and 'remasters' and 'rereleases'.You aren't making a good case against AI that can at least come up with insane shit that people aren't coming up with anyway.There's been a drought of writers, and creatives in general, for a long time now. Whether AI fixes that or not I don't know, but it can't make the industry worse than it was.
>>744639583If you're not happy at the current state of the medium and you think it's going to get worse, why are you still here?
>>744639651Not being happy with the state of the medium doesn't mean the medium is one uniform block of meh. There's a lot of variation, and some games are still neat.
>>744639686Why do you care about the state of the medium if it's not one uniformed block? If you've found some neat games to play, why aren't you happy with those games?
>>744639646>let's give execs a machine that allows them to fire writers and creatives. I wonder if this will fix the issue with not having enough good writers and creatives?
>>744639651>why are you still here?shut up faggot
>>744639730Not unless you suck my cock.
>>744639718Because when the average goes down, the number of still enjoyable games does, too.Come on, that's not that hard to figure out.
>>744639754gay ass nigger
>>744639724How many good writers and creatives are there currently within the industry?
Reminder
>>744636808>age down our princess FTFY
>>744639757So, the neat games you've found aren't enough to satiate you and you want the average to go up so that more enjoyable games are made for you to enjoy.
>>744636659I’ve just preordered 20 more!!!!
>>744639782A couple. And there need to be more, not less.
>>744639771Then I'll just keep yapping.
>>744636659I like AI, but i have to admit that they didn't do a really good job with that video
>>744639724Missing the point, bro. The writers and creatives that got fired were not writing or being creative.At the end of the day, the product is what matters and if AI or useless humans are involved I don't care.
>>744639831I need you to understand that next year is a real thing that will happen. And then another year after that, and another year after that, and so on and on. The future is a real thing that you should be concerned about.
>>744639810Yikes, korea is jeet tier.
>>744639810vidya VAs and fartists getting shafted by AnIndian is actually a good thing because they deserve it
>>744639847Why? Will you be buying every one of those new good writers and creatives products?
>>744639898Yes! Unless there are literally so many that I can't afford them, in which case I sure as hell won't be complaining.
>>744639882The future is a real thing that will happen, but the future serving your desires is not necessarily a real thing that will happen.
>>744639929Are you currently buying all the products of the existing good writers and creatives?
>>744639564SAAAAAR SAAAAAR AI PROMPTER IS A REAL JAB SAAAR
>>744639967As far as I'm aware of them, sure.
>>744640102And how much ave you spent on the existing good writers and creatives?
>>744639430I don't buy clothes.
>>744636659>The game is sexist, I'm not supporting this game>The game fired some feminists, I'm not supporting this game>The costumes were "censored", I'm not supporting this game>The new main character looks like pedobait, I'm not supporting this game>The developer made an AI music video, I'm not supporting this gameEvery controversy around Stellar Blade and its sequel is fake and gay shit by losers that don't matter to Shift Up.
>>744640181No one said this schizoshill. kys
>>744637769
>>744640149Over my entire life? No clue. What are you getting at?
>>744640229It should be easy for you to calculate since there are not many good writers and creatives. If these good writers and creatives are the people you want to support, shouldn't you be keeping an accounting of the monetary contribution you've made to their lives?
>>744638868GD trannies love him, AGP trannies hate him
>>744640285It should be easy for you to calculate how many times you've acted like a faggot. Just count downward from how old you are at this moment all the way up until your dad creampied your mother.
>>744637928better than the ai saars that jerk off every time someone says something remotely nice about ai
>>744640387I don't think that's going to help support those few good writers and creatives and their mortgages and healthcare and childcare bills.
>>744640509I don't think you're human
>>744640547A very dehumanizing statement. Don't only bad people do those kind of things?
>>744640285Not really. I buy whatever they're releasing whenever it's coming out. But I can't tell you what that adds up to after playing video games for almost 30 years and buying them myself for about 20. Say, I spend on average around 60 to 80€ on games a month. Say, all of those are made by good writers and creatives and we don't count the mediocre ones or poor ones. Say that's around 840€ a year. Over 20 years that would be 16,800€. Is that accurate? Probably not. But it's the best I can give you.
>>744640572Bad people do bad things to people. You aren't people.
>stellar blade gets it's dick sucked despite being a really mediocre cookie cutter game>The new game freak game get's shit on despite being another mediocre cookie cutter gameSomeone explain this to me.
>>744636659is it just me or does evie look cuter here than usual?
>>744636659>I'm done supporting a previously mediocre first entry video game series because of AIAlright then. But you've all generally had no issues with store asset buying devs for a considerable amount of years now so i fail to see the point of contention here other than just some gay protest about supporting human made art. The majority of video game development were lazy bastards prior to AI becoming a tool in video game development. That's why these articles from gaming journos seem so contrived.
>>744640617Do you feel like 16,800€ has been sufficient to support the good writers and creatives over the past 20 years?
>>744638412ai bros think you're gonna gen your own
>>744640637If I'm not people, does that mean I'm excluded bad people doing bad things to me?
>>744640686It's the price they're selling their products for. That's out of my hands.
Why is right wing pro AI? Aren't they supposed to be conservative?
>>744640642Game Freak have already had their chances.
>>744640723But don't you want to support the good writers and creatives that are rare and becoming less common as the average state of the medium declines?
>>744636659this is wrong everyone loves ai
>>744640725Anything to PWN the libs
>>744638854I kinda respect Gossip Goblin's stuff. It's still inferior to regular CGI animation in terms of consistency but I can appreciate the amount of autism it must take to get 30 minutes of usable footage out of it. And he's allegedly releasing a feature length movie..https://youtu.be/fyZhC2TXgcs
>all of the e/v/ie stellar slop threads recently were just shiftup setting the table for the slop music video
>>744640761Yes, which is why I'm buying their products.
>>744636719Fpbp>>744636659So you're (male) going back to resetera?
>>744640861But you're only supporting them up to a limit set by market conditions the good writers and creatives are bound by. If you're so concerned about the decline of the average state of the medium, why restrict yourself?
>>744640725Conservative in america and europe mean very different things.
>>744636659If you dont buy stellar blade, you have no right to complain about dei shit in vidya.
>>744640908No, they're corporate bootlickers in either case.
>>744640974bloody benchod bastards
>>744640181It is all decided when the demo arrives. If people like the gameplay they are going to buy it and all the seething is suddenly forgotten apart from the usual sites with propably a daily invasion here.People forgot the last game actually had 3D scans of both models, clothing and even the monsters. Some freaks were mad about that too. I really do not care if some textures are will be AI to prevent it to look like copy paste walls. How is that any different than pressing a randomize button from the unreal engine library itself? Like the assets everyone is starting to recognise already in several games.
>>744640642it had solid gameplay and was fun, which is all that matters in a game
>>744641056>Is there a single cause too retarded for conservatives to adopt as their own?"Free "palestine"" because that's total retard shit.
>>744640836No one cares about its '' gameplay''. The stellar blade threads were all full of gooning soft porn when it came out. A random jrpg on /v/ like relink has more discussions than the entire stellack threads combined
>it's our own workhus mistake is thinking that people hate AI for a rational, calculated reason
>>744636659>instead of an E/v/ie thread we get people calling each other jeets and tranniesIt's all so tiresome.
>>744641056As a rule of thumb, liberals tend to be annoying and smug, leftists are pseuds and take too much pride in reading and infighting, but rightoids are genuinely fucking retarded. Don't take the anti-intellectualism pill.
>>744641168Is it irrational to hate something that looks bad? Because the music video looks bad
>>744640642The tendies are reminding Gamefreak of their place.
>>744641207It actually is a pretty irrational reason to hate it, yes.
>160 posts and not a single soul curses vishnu
>>744638412That's my contention. AI generated stuff should be cheaper not as expensive as the stuff I'm buying now.
modern "videogame discussion" be like>so the company has a massive AI shill CEO, is cutting corners for AI slop, replacing artists, animators and other creatives with AI, marketing with AI slop, guerilla marketing with AI slop softcore porn pics online, and releasing AI slop trailers, but this says nothing about the quality of the game>but if a game has a single black person anywhere it's woke SJW DEI SBI poisoned and everyone involved must be gassed o algo
>>744641362What stuff are you buying now?
>>744636659Gooks are bugmen after all, you can only trust White man to have any standards for art
>>744641453>I h8 ai>I <3 niggersno one cares bud
>>744641453Forcefully including incongruent elements into the game is bad. AI isn't incongruent by default and neither are black people. It just happens that people keep shoving them where they don't belong.
>>744641569>AI isn't incongruentAI is incongruent with itself. Genned shit can't be self consistent.
>>744641613Right. You nees to stop trying to say things just to say things.
>>744637571>Not the ones I've been makingPost ‚em for all to see! Oh wait, you won’t.
>>744638540I was going to buy the game. I 100%'d stellar bladeI'm unfortunately not going to financially support games using ai
>>744642173then why did you buy stellar blade ?It's an open secret that company has been using AI since Nikke.
>>744641852>post porn on a blue board duuudeWelcome to 4chan.org
>>744642301Bans aren't real.
>>744641546You mean the race that started all this shit
>>744640642Game Freak barely did any of the work on that new game. They just oversaw the project because "Their internal team is too (relatively) small for a project of that size"GF were basically idea guys and tard wranglers
>>744642173Sister most of the assets in stellar blade are generated by ai
>SB threads have been full of nothing but AI Evie since the announcement>CEO saw this shit because you know he lurks here he's a fucking degenerate>he thinks this is what the fans want>gives the fans what they want>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEyou deserve this
>>744642415You think the fans are here to seethe about it? Ever since the announcement it has been this daily copy paste thread.Some will pretend its engagement shilling but its just some troon that really hopes the game will fail just like they tried with the first.
>>744641314Why? Things that are bad deserve scorn, like black people and third worlders
>>744641362>devs using stock library and assets should sell me the game cheaperEntitled fucker, aren't you?
>>744641453>replacing artists, animators and other creatives with AICitation required. Your schizo rand does not count as proof.
>>744636659I will never understand the hate whenever a new technological step happens! Did the people throwing their sabot shoes win? And why are people against all AI stuff instead of just AI art?
>>744642415>gives the fans what they wantFans don't want slop from the devs. They tolerate it from fans because they don't have the game assets to make 3D renders.
>>744637198>dragon ball>payit's a latinx. he's not gonna pay
>>744640084Lmao even saars can do it but you can't Says a lot about you israelii anon
>>744642526>>744642759hmm who should I believe?
>>744642249I imagine most people who bought Stellar Blade are not familiar with Nikke in any meaningful capacity. Don't think they have the same audience.
>>744642415>Fans really want the same old AI slop where details keep changing every frame.If I want my video game to wobble around and cause an eye strain I take LSD before playing.
>>744642740It's the environment, stupid.
I still find it very funny that the same grifters that defending this just a few weeks ago was calling for the death of ai company executive because their gabe cube price got higher. Cognitive dissonance is a hell of a drug.
>>744640828that was pretty cool anon. makes the shift up video look about 1000 times more half assed now.
>>744642902You do not think every company is blasting out AI generated textures, characters and world designs behind closed doors and then pretend they are done by hand?
>>744642886The issue is that most people are just thinking about the here and now, not about the coming years or decades. Japan and China in particular are researching technology like carbon cables or via micro wavces and aim to harness unlimited orbital solar energy within the next two to three decades.Western people are just fucked up right now and lost the momentum of the last centuries. Maybe because we killed Germany.
>>744639810Damn... it really is worst Korea...
>>744643054obviously, but the point is that the shame associated with doing a bad job with it means they are vigilant that the result doesn't look like slop, unlike Shit Up's latest turd.Shit Up should be rightfully shamed and laughed out of the room for thinking this shit is production-worthy.
>>744636659Here's the actual quote, for you retards who can't look something up:>“EVIE, the character at the heart of this video, was created from head to toe by our talented artists and modelers through more than a year of dedicated work. The AI is not creating her from scratch. It is rendering and presenting the character based on the data, designs, and craftsmanship our team created. We would truly appreciate it if you could view the work with that understanding in mind,”
>>744636724BASEDDDDDDD
>>744643054>You do not think every company is blasting out AI generated textures, characters and world designsAnd risk losing their rights because AI creations are public domain? Probably not. They always need a human being to finalize or recreate the AI creations or otherwise they don't have any rights to them. If Evie was AI created anyone could use the design, the character and the model in their game for free and theres nothing ShiftUp could legally do about it.
>>744643289>The AI is not creating her from scratch.Yeah, that was the issue all along
>>744643289>>744642882
What AI are they even using?
>>744636659Yeah it doesn't matter. Normgroids will forget about this in a month at most.
>>744643426llamanon statement is correct, notice how the hand doesn't change and the finger errors are absent, only the clothing on top goes weird. For some stupid reason they decided to AI filter in the clothes when the model probably already had fully modeled 3D clothes.
>>744640642Same reason Crimson Slop got shilled for a couple months. This place is infested with subhumans.
>>744642875Imagine feeding her all that to make her ass fat
>>744643289>created from head to toe >talented artists and modelers>a year of dedicated workthen why she have the blandest AI face?
>>744642794
>>744641362anything produced using AI shouldn't even cost money, it's a violation of copyright. the training data uses copyrighted content without permission from the many artists its sourced from. technically, you need permission from the rights holder to even produce fan art of a copyrighted work. so what makes companies think they can just get away with using people's artwork for their training data, and then expect people to pay for what they generate with it.
>>744643498you are fucking retarded and the target audience
>>744636659>AIfags defending the future, I mean the present, of videogames for 6 years straight and counting >Total for videogames made better thanks to AI: 0>Total of videogames made more expensive thanks to AI: everything
>>744643793sovereign citizen tier post
>>744643793it's also why anything produced using AI is not subject to copyright. if someone produces something using AI, others can take it and re-publish it themselves without consequence.
>>744643872it's literally the law, dumbass.
>>744643289>It is rendering and presenting the character based on the data, designs, and craftsmanship our team created.So they made 1000000 different rendered pictures of her and made their own AI? Impressive. I think just normal 3D animations would be less expensive though
>>744643427The cheapest one, that's why they use AI
>>744644060you are fucking retarded and the target audience
>>744643846>>Total for videogames made better thanks to AI: 0E33
>>744636659This is old news some tweet response from Friday
>>744643945Okay buddy. You go on rejecting the legal fiction of the courts.
>>744639810Its basically a whiteness chartWhite people created AI therefore only white people can appreciate AI
>>744643702Because you're retarded
>>744640642I don't even need to look at the Game Freak game to tell you it's trash, I can tell you from simple pattern recognitionThe last original Game Freak IP I thought was even decent was Harmoknight, which is from 2012 and still isn't very good, it really fails to build off its basic mechanics. Tembo sucked not a goddamned soul bought Little Town Hero to the point that it barely has enough user reviews on Steam to get an aggregate
>>744643949Not really. You can just give a model like seedream a small number of pictures (one can be the suit from the front, and another a closeup shot of her face) and then the model can do the rest.That being said you will always get inconsistent result, it's the nature of LLM, but as long as it looks very close it could be good enough.Shift Up failed the manual process review.
>>744644450Okay, correcting myself, I thought Pocket Card Jockey released before Harmoknight but it came after. Pocket Card Jockey is fucking awesome but it's the rare exception and still 13 years old
>>744644405that's a child
This is the greatest game ever
>>744636659Westerners hate AI for the wrong reasons which is why no one takes them seriously
>>744645350A very cute and loveable one
>>744636659if you ever used photoshop or autotune you're a hypocrite
>>744646486>Photoshop>AutotuneFalse equivalency, the whole value of gen AI is that you're actively minimizing decision making. This dogshit "argument" keeps getting copy and pasted, it doesn't even make sense.
>>744636659Same.
I love all the losers in this friend defending the use of genAI in gaming. None of you have ever or will ever:-Be a woman-Work in gaming-Work in… general-Touch female breasts consensually
>>744645350well, why do you think thirdies love the game so much?
>>744643289>we took a film ready 3d model and filtered over it using gen aiWow, it looks like dogshit. And it's overengineered too!
reminder that those who hate AI are tranniesdont let them try to gaslight you into thinking otherwisetrannies are behind all the "AI slop" posting you see
>>744636659It doesn't really matter what he says. AI is extremely off-putting and has almost no sensuality that exists when a person draws the character, and this is going to translate into loss of dollars which will correct the companies course.
>>744648572>Gamers are overwhelmingly negative about generative AI in video games—85% report a below‑neutral attitudeDo you do this full time?
>>744638593heres the thing you retards dont geti dont care what THEY say or do, trying to make the ai bullshit a woke vs chud thing is not going to workits shit, looks like shit, lower quality of everything and gives retards a false sense of self importancetheres nothing you or anyone can say to change my, or those like me, mindcalling us SJW or whatever wont make us back you as a shock reaction to prove you wrong
>>744648572Good morning sir.
>>744641202blame retards for using ai
>>744636659My favorite forum says you are not allowed to masturbate to her.
>>744640974if going against DEI means everything turns to slop, i'd rather the whole industry just fucking dielike, unironically, just crash all servers and go back to 16 bit games, we fucking failed as humans
>>744640974Why not support one of the (many) other east asian games with waifus in it.>please redeem the stellar bladego fuck yourself lol
>>744636659e/v/ie chan spotted on the catalog
>>744648572Based trannies.
>>744648572So 93% are not trans, bravo dude
>>744648985Seconded.
>>744636659You're upset at Kim for a harmless AI music video when you should be upset at Kim because Nikke is getting personaslop next week
>>744638962i hope that brown side-cut dyke isn't an example of a video game "tomboy" you like
>>744649490Yes she is.
>>744649560Grim.
>>744636724>>744639810It’s a chart of countries with lots of welfare policies. Why do welfare state citizens fear AI?
>>744639810why are south koreans so brown-coded?
I totally support AI in games, but if you use it I am going to pirate your game.AI is a great cost-cutting tool, and so is piracy, so I support us both using all the cost-cutting tools at our disposal.
>>744636659Gonna support it now triple as hard. Take that, reddiera.
>>744637898The most basedest man alive!
>>744636659LMAO. Leftists are still butthurt about this game. This is so hilarious. They're gonna get booty blasted again
>>744652264nice pol rant you got there, now tell me what this game is called without looking it up
>>744648572No shit trannies hate AI. I don't even think chatgpt could make something as ugly as Dragon Age Veilguard if you prompted the image gen
sure smells /r/gcj in here
>>744649040such as
>>744636659>Be Korean>Have a sizable portion of your net worth invested in the South Korean stock market, possibly even leveraged with debt from the bank>Literally 50%+ of the value of the entire South Korean stock market is funneled into Samsung and SK Hynix, two corporations that have been enriching themselves as producers of memory chips for the AI trade, to the point that the entire korean market as x4 in value since the start of this year (don't worry tho, it's totally not a bubble and the good times will never end, it's been so good that even the government has been pushing AI trade ETFs for citizens to invest in, free money for everyone!)>Every major tech company in Korea is now financially incentivise to push AI, because every Korean CEO and fiscally minded worker's future retirement savings rely on their current portfolio keeping it's value and increasing further because so much is concentrated in companies that are in the AI trade.>Oh shit, China announced that they're coming close to developing and releasing their own memory chip! Not only would this directly compete against the two companies that now occupy 50% of the entire South Korean stock market, it would add a huge influx of new memory chips that would also compromise the profit margins that were inflat- I mean increasing shareholder value!>Entire SK stock market loses trillions of dollars a day over the past week and counting, millions of Korean citizens getting margin called by the banks because they took on debt to make risky leveraged bets on the AI trade, murals and small protests begin gathering in front of government buildings in SeoulThey just want their investments in Samsung to pay off and now Korea has the most volatile stock market on the planet. It's hilarious. It's like everyone forgot what happened with the fall of Nortel in the dot com bubble and invented like 20+ Nortels across the globe to teach the same lesson again.
Reminder the the OP is the same self-hating korean schizo who has constantly been making the "Stellar Blade flopped" threads for the last couple years. He has now found a new thing to latch on to and you will see this type of thread constantly for the next couple months at least.https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/text/%22sony%20had%20to%20bail%20them%20out%22/
>>744652705thats why I just relax and enjoy my stashpeople want way too much shitwhy are you leveraging anything?anyone getting margin called deserves it
>>744636659I am now supporting Based Up
>>744652841>HEY EVERYONE ITS POOPDICKSCHIZO IGNORE HIM
>>744652841bet its the same faggot that posts stock prices in these threads. What a retard.
>>744636724>TL:DR: seethe and cope this is the future of AI in games
>>744652886To steelman the Korean, many of those folks were on the younger side who were taking on debt because they believed that these investments were the key to securing a financially secured future (like how their grandparents took on debt to eventually enrich themselves off the real estate market). I wouldn't expect retards on /v/ to even understand what an "ETF" is, yet alone follow the Korean market crash just last week but the story behind it has been completely wild. I'll just post the 5 year graph because I think it does a good enough job at visualizing exactly the type of asset bubble South Korea is living with right now. Koreans are going to be on AI like bears are to honey because they perceive their financial future as reliant on it.Shit like this dumb fuck music video no one asked for isn't something for people like those on /v/. They're advertisements to investors about the future of AI because their retirement savings literally depend on it.
>>744640642The first stellar blade was made with Sony as the publisher. The second game is being self-published by ShiftUp.
>>744636724>>TL:DR: seethe and cope this is the future of AI in gamesLMFAO
>>744636724cant believe they fell this low
>>744636659>Release date: late 2027>AI trailer: mid 2026They are literally farming controversy as publicity and you idiots just eat it up like retards
>>744653648I get the steelman but the key to securing a future is for young and old people to believe in their country and focus on building it together, not sitting there hoping the candle on a graph goes big red or big green and "getting mine". Let all the markets collapse. This soulless way of viewing life is unsustainable.
>>744636724let me pre order the deluxe edition already
>>744653312t. poopdickschizo
>>744654183That's literally what investing in your domestic market is. If a Korean was pouring their money into a generalized KOSPI ETF, they ARE putting money back into the companies that are growing their domestic economy and creating jobs at the local level. The issue and the lesson they are learning now is that when your market becomes so centralized around so few companies, it heightens the risk when the concentrated companies start to run into headwinds like what happened just over the past week with that massive fucking drop. If 50% of your market is just Samsung and Hynix, then suddenly 50% of the entire value of the market is at risk if both Samsung and Hynix run into issues, like new competition from an economically dominate rival. This same story happened like 25 years ago in the Canadian stock market when Nortel became 30% of the value of the TSX index and then suddenly went insolvent. It's just a classic case of what happens when you put your eggs in too few baskets.I'm not Korean, I just follow global news, but if I were to point a finger at anyone responsible, I would point it at Korea's government regulators. It's supposed to be their job to regulate the market to avoid bubbles this concentrated and volatile and instead of regulating it they directly encouraged it and they will suffer the consequences of that in the future. It's all tangential anyway. I was just adding context as to WHY SK is so particularly pro AI as a country.
>>744636724based, when is release?
>>744655059Im talking about leveraging and gambling. I doubt most of the people who got wiped primarily care how their "investments" will improve the country, they just want to bet and win big. Its the same reason they love crypto.
>>744636724Holy based
>>744640642Stellar Blade was the Shift Up's first non-gacha game and the gameplay formula wasn't as played out back as it is now. Game Freak has run its reputation into the ground over the last decade and is also releasing a game that is very similar to multiple other asian games that came out in the last years.
>>744636719fpbp
>>744636724>>TL:DR: seethe and cope this is the future of AI in gamesTwitroonies on suicide watch.
>>744637898H O L YS C H O L A R
>>744637928kwaboty
>>744648929Oh I blame Shift Up for this, no doubt. It was a stupid decision and it looks like they have no one in the team to do a sanity check. The AI labs thought this was good. Kim who is an AI head approved, and here we are.I'm glad the backlash was intense, I hope they learn.
>>744655610I think your statement would hold true in many cases, although I do believe that there was an element of nationalism behind it. The Korean market had been pretty flat for decades making it an unexciting index to invest in (to the point that most were just investing in the US stock trade instead) so to suddenly jump from ~2k points to 3k points (a feat that took over a decade to accomplish) to then suddenly 4k points a few months after that is part of what fueled the overall fervor to begin with. You had people speculating if the "Korean discount" (that is to say, the trend of companies listed on the Korean stock exchange being valued less than those on the US exchange even in cases where the Korean company is competing at the same level, or even surpassing US competition) was finally over and that the market was just rising to meet it's true value. I don't think that the government itself would have gotten into encouraging the trade if they didn't want to make it an event of national pride.Either way, we're both getting a bit off-topic, so I'm tapping out from here. Good talk overall tho.
>>744657358Yep good talk. i can only hope the game's discussions are as quality when it finally releases
>>744636719Fpbp
>>744636719gottem brown op btfo
>>744636724And here I thought they could not get anymore based
>>744636659chudbros, are we on the side of anti-art?
>>744636724The most based dev alive right now
>>744658447chuddies dislike aislop
>>744636724BASED
>>744636724Based. He knows how fake this outrage is and refuses to bend the knee.
>>744636724Based. Loading my pre-order now
>>744653648taking on debt for stock investments is fucking retarded and not comparable to real estate at all.leveraging it is double retarded.country of retards.
>first game was filled with obvious AIslopped writing in the quests>somehow people are surprised theyre doubling down on itYou only have yourselves to blame. If you tolerate or ignore 'small' instances of its usage, you're only bolstering future, larger, more bold usages of it
>>744638854https://youtu.be/4wFBA9-KyzY
>>744641381JAV code?
>>744637898>KHT>God-tier artistHe's "pretty good" tier. His anatomy has always been very ropey.
>>744658447No, that would be leftoids who think shitting on a canvas or sticking spaghetti-os up your cunt is high art. They tried to destroy the idea of art decades ago with their subversive j*wish bullshit, they don't get to pretend they're the arbiters of what is and isn't art now.
>>744636724Why are you lying? The response was literally:"pls understand"
Listen anon, I know, I know. AI is going to make games:Look worseSound worseRead worsePotentially play worseHowever, I feel like you're missing a really important part here that justifies all of that:They will still cost 70 bucks! also own the libs or something
>>744659492Trvke Nvke
>>744652563Outed yourself as a tourist. The entirety of the gacha industry. Attractive female leads is not something copyrighted by Shift Up or something at risk of going extinct to begin with
>>744660578Alright lad let's not go too far here, nothing justifies getting into gachas
>>744660675And yet you call the CEO of a gacha company "based".CURIOUS.
>>744660292No it wasn't you can see between the lines he doesn't care and will continue to use it.
>>744660895He still felt the need to excuse and justify it. It's damage control, not defiance.
Been playing NIKKE for a few years and was going to buy Stellar Blade for Switch 2, but after this I'll skip. I don't want my video games to look like some generated Facebook boomerslop.
>>744661002The same speech these corporations have been using every single time to downplay something while still investing and fuck ton on said content. He doesn't care and won't stop using these AI tools to develop Stellar Blade 2, and to this point I would already say you will see a lot more AI generated content such as video, posters and other type of misc illustration and assets.
>>744661175>I don't want my video games to look like some generated Facebook boomerslop.The game will look like Stellar Blade 1 or the Summer Games Fest trailer for Blood Rain. You're acting all female and emotional about a single music video.
>>744641453>replacing artists, animators and other creatives with AIand by this you mean self-absorbed narcissists who think art is about "self-expression".
>>744641453AI > DEI scum
>>744661287Which is still mealy-mouthed excuses and deflection.
>>744661175>been playing NIKKE for a few years, shitz 2Opinion disregarded
>>744636659Same, OP. Reminder to sign the grassroots petition to END the reign of Bood Rain! https://c.org/FbnkJnGSpf
if you let grok make your game Im not paying for it.simple as.
>>744661287He cares otherwise what was the point of replying to some random post?
>>744636724how can one man be this based
>>744662046>grassroots petition>1 signatureYou will make that previous campaign that almost got 100 signatures seem like a monumental achievement.
>>744661603AI niggers like you and Shit Up don't matter.
>>744660895>you can see between the linesYeah you can halucinate
what did the director of SU mean by reposting this...
>>744662793Total Doro Love
>>744662891what in the blazes
>>744662613Complains about how a single music video looks, admits to playing NIKKE for years. Nice self own kid.
>>744636659>>744636724Okay I'll just pirate it instead of buying.
>>744662793is that how doros are made?
>>744662468Freakin kek
>>744636724I agree if only because the average consumer is a complete golem. The same thing that happened with DLC and lootboxes will happen with AI generated content.
>ITT: AI tranny support group.
>>744636724The first developer to endorse generating porn instead of playing the game.
>>744662046Good grief why are liberals so cringe, after reading that reason for the petition.
Ok so shit up isn't changing course or saying anything....
>>744663823The game isn't very big, it would have sold 1m copies max but now with the AIslop music video they are fucked.
>>744663993Yeah plus with this petition
>>744664169
>>744636719FPBP
they are legit retarded if theythink this will help their company/ sales
>>744636719>it was never meant for YOU, chud!Now where have I heard this one before?
>>744643949>I think just normal 3D animations would be less expensive thoughI don't know what the cost of the normal 3D animations would be, but this aislop was allegedly made for under $500 USD and in 10 days.https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=aiC-LvYj-SMhttps://www.reddit.com/r/aivideo/comments/1t8rq6m/aigc_short_film_zombie_scavenger_credit_mxshell/This AI shill claims it only took 3 people just 2 weeks to make this aislop.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsREdHXtdWMhttps://x.com/PJaccetturoIf you're looking for the economic justification for embracing aislop, assuming these numbers are true, this would be it.
>>744664998this board is full of unironic retards just pretending that they are not
Reminder. Ai steals images for its gens so using AI is theft.
>>744666425Internet itself doesn't care about copyright. Just the publishers and authors.
>>744662046>Big Chungus
>>744666425Theft is how the video game industry thrives.
>>744662954>Faggot >Loves AI>Boomer kys nigger
>>744667271He's saving gaming
>>744660675Shift Up is literally a gacha company. Money put into Stellar Blade will just be reinvested into gacha.>>744660224Even if that were true (you're referring to a subsection of pretentious fine art) that's not nearly as destructive as spamming every online community with gen AI and actively being hostile towards the idea of creating art.Go back to your podcasts, polfag.
>>744669568>actively being hostile towards the idea of creating artgoing to need a source on that, tranny
>>744666425Reminder Sam Altman can pirate petabytes worth of training data but you're not allowed to pirate a single movie.
>>744669568>Money put into Stellar Blade will just be reinvested into gacha.lol that's not what the gachafags think.
>>744669715There is a reason AIfag and artfag communities can not and should not coexist. I feel the reasoning is obvious enough it does not require elaboration unless you are actually brain dead.
>>744669778/v/ pirates things all the time. /v/ is pirating at this very moment.>>744625145>>744625145>>744625145
>>744669836I mean, they can say whatever they want. Nikke is their bread and butter. If they need to chose one, they will sacrifice Stellar Blade 2 on a weekend if it underperforms.
>>744636659Okay Anon. Have fun.I will still buy it because i loved stellar blade.
>>744669886>no sourceThats what I thought, pseudAnd if it was so obvious, you would just say it instead of pretending you have anysemblance of a legitimate argument
>>744669950Nikke was created to fund Stellar Blade. The director of Nikke applied to Shift Up to work on Stellar Blade but he didn't get the job cause SU needed someone to make Nikke so they had money to make SB.
>>744670039>And if it was so obvious, you would just say it It's a litmus test. You're below even /v/'s levels of intelligence, don't bother replying.
>>744636724>>744636719Holy fuck best timelineI'm getting AI generated waifus AND we're killing the trannies and removing them from the medium?? At the same time??
>>744670285>conceding alreadyThis is the best anti AI shills have? Sad. The term pseud was made for people like you.
>>744670168>Nikke was created to fund Stellar BladeFanfiction interpretation. If they need to sacrifice Stellar Blade's future, they will, it's not their main thing.
>>744670168So the guy's dream game was to copy Nier Automata beat for beat?
>>744670496Only cause you don't like it.>>744670561That's why it was so successful.
anti AI posters have lost so much ground on 4chan over the years. how?
>>744670854they were never real, as a gamer, you gain nothing by companies not using AI to accelerate the development of the products you want to playthat's it, that's as far as the argument can go, they might go through loops and mental gymnastics to try to come up with reasons as how AI creates sloppa, but then you point at the last fifteen years of slop and how AI was not part of it, and they can't answer
>>744670854Because anti AI posters have souls, whereas pro AI poster do not. There are more NPCs in this world than people.
>>744671049So, Anti-AI posters are in the minority?
>>744636659You just know they experimented with other videos before this one
>>744671006>as a gamer, you gain nothing by companies not using AI to accelerate the development of the products you want to playProud AAA slop enjoyers on /v/.Grim. Chills, even.
>>744670854You can't beat jeets. They will eventually always win because of their numbers.
>>744671142Yes.
>>744671219I think you might have trouble with reading comprehension, try again
>>744671232Oh. So, most gamers are okay with AI?
>>744671308I believe so, yes. It's quite grim.
>>744671006This. AI is just a tool and the finished product still depends on the intention and judgement of the creator.
>>744671430I see. So, every thread I come across that's full of Anti-AI posters is just a few people samefagging a lot?
>>744671490well put, senpaihow many 'junipers', how many jeets, how many abdullahs work on a game is irrelevant to me or to anyone, how many of them get replaced by AI is completely irrelevant, kojima will still be there to make the games, miyazaki, todd hehe, insert whichever creative you want in this box, still there, still the ones that matter
>>744671550Probably.
ResetEra troons do a poor job at pretending to be anons.
>>744671550>>744671680I like how there are multiple studies showing an overwhelming majority of English speaking gamers hate AI, but this angle keeps getting pushed.>it's just two people on twitter>also steam please remove the AI disclosure it's hurting salesMy bullshit meter has never seen readings like this in years.
>>744671676>everyone without the name "director" on the credits for your favorite vidya never matteredAmazing how far anti AI shills have fallen that this is the argument they're trying to use now
>>744636808Cute feet
>>744636659>Gookshit even more shitty than usualLmao this is why I never trusted those jaw-shaving fucks
>>744671991calm down nguyen
Okay, but WHY exactly should I support this? What's in it for me, the consumer?Is it gonna make the game look better? NoIs it gonna make it play better? NoIs it gonna make it cheaper? Hell noIt seems as if every single advantage and perk benefits the people making the game exclusively, to the detriment of me, the person who has the money and can choose not to purchase their now shittier product. Can't see this strat working
>>744671991Let's be honest, Stellar Blade looked like AI slop to begin with. This is just a natural conclusion.
>>744671861They're wrong for hating AI. Gabe said so.
>>744636659>I'm done supporting ShiftUp.You either never supported them in the first place, or you're fappin' to their jiggle bones PNGs from Destiny Child and Nikke.
>>744672179It'll make hardware more expensive, make the game run worse (think indian outsourcing but of even lower quality) and also shit up the economy (Korea stock market took a massive hit thanks to AI).Seems like it's just negatives, idk
>>744672179>>744672275Were you (singular) interested in buying the game in the first place?
>>744672179Hush now! Don't ask questions, just consume the slop! Never demand things get better.
>>7446690811 signature
>>744672275CEOs will make more money.
>>744671142Depends on the topic. Threads like this of course attract insecure AI bros who buy into the delusion that AI will make everything better and get defensive when people are realistic about it.
>>744672327No. Why?
>>744672179Why do you think there's so many shills trying to push for this, anon? They're not dumb, they are very much aware that deep down this is a shit deal for the consumer, but if they can fabricate consensus and convince enough morons that 'actually this is fine and everyone is okay with it', they could be saving an astronomical amount of money when developing these games. They just need to fool you into ignoring the many, many issues and just consume product.As per usual, the core of the issue is that Line Must Go Up, Forever
>>744672179You’re assuming AI can only cut labor costs and not expand a game's scope, speed up its iteration, or even let smaller teams make games that otherwise could not exist. These are all consumer benefits btw.
>>744672179>anti AI shills samefaggingkek >>744671550 called it
>>744670384>/pol/fag supports thing because in hope it harms they're enemies no matter how miniscule.
>>744672179Theoretically it could make games come out faster, and the reduced development costs could result in cheaper gamesOf course neither thing is gonna happen because the people resorting to AI are invariably greedy assholes
>>744672701He's a clipped cock Christ tard most likely. Their whole existence is spite >people who were mean to be will go to le eternal detention!
>>744672327Two different anons, I guess your brain short circuits that two people on the planet aren't interested in your shill attempt. Game looks like shit, the surrounding marketing is shit, I won't play it.>haha see people don't want to play the gameyeahlike what am I supposed to say
>>744672478Yes, companies want to make money. What a genius observation. That doesn't mean the technology is bad for consumers.
>>744672820So, you came into a thread of a game you didn't care for and have never cared for to tell me, a shill, that you were never going to buy it ever.
>>744672515But will they be quality and their own identity and soul? No. Will also believe the positives you listed when I see them.
>>744672771And the people avoiding AI are not greedy assholes?
It's fucking hilarious how much seethe this game causes.
>>744672701Yeah like the left has never done this, also it's their not they're.
>>744672947What an example of a quality non-AI game that has its own identity and soul?
>>744672947>answering your own question as a conclusion without supporting it while demanding evidence from others
>>744672901You're trying to damage control in a thread where OP was hostile towards the game and the studio, replying to any negative sentiment. I have every right to call you a shill.lol, lmao evenFuck off, not buying.
>>744673134Terranigma
>>744673134Nier: Automata
>>744673192Oh, I am a shill. No dispute there. But I'm just glad to confirm you were never interested in the game and that negative comments from people like you can be ignored.
>>744673192>where OP was hostile towards the game and the studioHow new are you?
>>744673134Everything Stellar Blade was inspired off of.They have the bonus of not looking like Unreal asset flips.
>>744673223Was this a 1995 JRPG that was only released in Japan and Europe, so barely anyone outside of a handful of European countries remember playing it growing up?
>>744673134For me, it's the original Dark Souls with dsfixGod damn imagine being alive to play thatImagine being meFeels good
>>744636659>AI ruined my shitty porn market, if you support AI i hate you
>>744673272Good news. The creator of Nier Automata loves Stellar Blade and Shift Up. He's also writing for the next Evangelion anime series which I hope you will be enthusiastically supporting.
>>744637198Meanwhile the ``games`` made as ``art```with infinite budgets
>>744673386>i wanted to retire off soulless anime/furry porn commissionsdo anti AI troons really?
>>744673342Yea
>>744673298Do any specific games where the inspirations came from come to mind?
>>744672947>this game lost its soul and identity with that AI generated skybox
>>744673435true. can't wait to see Evie's Nier outfits.
>>744673435>fellow artist recognizes other artistsOf course. The anti AI tourists itt who have never made anything in their lives wouldn't understand.
>>744673380Do you regret what has become of Fromsoft over the past 15 years?
>>744673435>He's also writing for the next Evangelion anime series which I hope you will be enthusiastically supporting.I still cannot believe how fucking shit the rebuilds were. Genuinely offensive movies. Alien 3 was better than those, and that movie sucks donkey dick.
>>744637105>look at the madeup stuff I read on reddit >there was even a screenshot from some clickbait article attached to itthis anon is wise
>>744673495What is it about the game that made it quality, soulful and had its own identity?
>>744637706Your post would have been less retarded if you had used AI to check your spelling.
>>744672972The companies are not entitled to your money. They have to put out a product that is worth spending the consumer's money on. This is basic shit
>>744641362>>744638412The price of a game is what people are willing to pay, not how much it cost to make. A copy of concord wasn't 10 times more expensive than a copy of KCD:2 or 40 times more expensive than E33 either.
>>744673717So, you cannot name any non-AI people that are not greedy assholes.
>>744673435Yokotaro is a huge ancap libertarian retard so this is not surprising at all
>>744673594It could be worse. But, I wont lie. I am grateful for a break from singleplayer souls and soulslike after the ER dlc. I'll skip their multiplayer games until the next big project.
>>744673680Kek, true
>>744640642Stellar Blade has a target audience it's directly pandering to, the outsourced gamefreak title is just a generic game with nothing special to it.
>>744673805It's not greedy to refuse to buy a shitty product, anon.
>>744673717the greedy CEO gave the music video for free at a cost to himself
>>744644189>some guy fucked around with some placeholder textures back when AI image generation was new Epic.
>>744652841>self-hating korean schizoThere needs to be more of those to fight the korean nationalist schizos who talk about how every shitty k-mmo is the greatest thing ever for the sake of their national pride.
>>744672179Honestly I'm open to new technologies but either way this is going to end on a fucking massive change that might or might not be violent
>>744673504I see where you're going with this, one of the creators of Nier blocked the CEO of Shift Up on Twitter lol.>b-but yoko taroTeams have more than one person
>>744673884I see you're misunderstanding. Let me clarify.>>744672771>Of course neither thing is gonna happen because the people resorting to AI are invariably greedy assholesI was referring to "the people NOT resorting to AI". I'm not talking about non-AI consumers. I'm talking about non-AI producers. Are those non-AI people greedy assholes?
>>744637198Stellarslop fans were always Indians spamming a mediocre action game because their favorite griftuber told them it was the only game to ever feature fanservice.
>>744673669Unique premise, melancholy tone, detailed art and world design, satisfying gameplay and I played it as a child.
>>744673884You still haven’t shown that using AI in game development inherently makes it shitty though. Last I remember, E33 used AI assisted assets and swept TGA and was a commercial hit.
ai good bloody bitch bastard bitch lasaga benchod little timmy not know good game ai is the future you bloody benchod basterd bich
>>744672179>Okay, but WHY exactly should I support this?Support what? Somebody fucking around a little and making a random music video for his game? >Is it gonna make the game look better?Are you retarded? How is an AI music video supposed to have any impact on a game? >Is it gonna make it play better?Are you retarded? How is an AI music video supposed to have any impact on a game? >Is it gonna make it cheaper? Name one time in history where things didn't get cheaper after them becoming easier to make.>this time would be different because I feel smart when I doompostMaybe you feel even smarter if you kill yourself.
>>744674036Less than the AI users for sure. In fact, if there's one good thing about AI is that it's gonna make greedy hacks self identify themselves much easier, you can tell someone cares about money above the quality of their product if they choose to use it
>>744674025And which person on the Nier Automata team contributed the most to the quality, soul and identity of the game?
>>744674013K-mmos are barely discussed on /v/. You sound like a schizo having koreans live rent free
>>744674110That last part is probably one of the biggest factors. Does it still hold up after all these years? Personally, I still think Chrono Trigger plays well even 30 years later.
>>744674208Hard to say, a lot of people contributed. There's character designers, there's environment art, there's the composers. Not surprising an AIfag can't see this. Too high IQ I guess.
>>744674173Do you have any examples of recent quality video game products made by non-AI creators?
>>744674284They do get threads which are desperate "play this new shit game because it has lolis in it". Then it requires a Korean ID and VPN to play.
I really didn't enjoy Stellar Blade that much. The combat was "What if Nier, but slower and sekiro parry/color slop?"The story... Ha! Story... Was mid and the ending had me feeling like Eve, didn't really deserve her "Badass moment" because she was such a boring cock-hungry loser.Tachy honestly felt more like an MC than Eve ever did, even in looks.Even though Monaca did the music for this Nier rip off, the Ariana Grande wannabe vocals had me muting it after a few hours.
>>744674329I mean, I still like Illusion of Time (Illusion of Gaia for NA), and Terranigma is a suped up version of that, so I would say so.
>>744674459I must mentally filtering them. The only ones I remember are the classic maplestory threads which will probably have some legs at launch due to nostalgia. But I expect things to go back to normal. Almost nobody here likes gook grindslop.
>>744674163There is no need to play dumb, anon. You know very well I'm talking about their future usage of AI on the game that they're advertising by using AI.>Name one time in history where things didn't get cheaper after them becoming easier to make.Have you...been paying ANY attention at all at how pricings have been behaving during the last, I don't know, 10 or 15 years? Food is easier to grow, produce and distribute than ever and yet it keeps getting more expensive, factories are now fully capable of making all sorts of amazing devices and technology and yet each new iteration of a device is more expensive than the last. Hell, videogames themselves are easier and more accessible to create than ever before, and yet their prices keep mounting. You really need to be either deeply ignorant of wilfully unaware to not know any of this.
>>744674371I'm just wondering who you think was the main factor behind the quality, soul and identity of the Square Enix published and Platinum developed Nier Automata that has sold 10M copies since it released almost a decade ago and only had a mobile game follow up that EoS'd after a few years. So, just to be clear, you do not think that Yoko Taro, the directer for Nier Automata, played an oversized role in the game's quality, soul or identity?
>>744674593No one does. The threads are rare but it's consistently a gooner trying to increase demand for fan art by posting on /v/, shilling a game they can't even play.I already forgot the name of the other one.
ITT: voices from the abyss seethingThe Buzzfeed people don't want the sequel to succeed, huh
>>744674621>Food is easier to grow, produce and distribute than ever and yet it keeps getting more expensiveNo, food is cheaper than ever. The food YOU'RE buying is more expensive than ever. If you go look at the cost of food and typical diet of a person from your country 100 years ago, you're getting more bang for your buck.
>>744674634>Yoko Taro, the directer for Nier Automata, played an oversized role in the game's quality, soul or identity?No more than the art or sound team. You talk as if it was catapulted into the mainstream for its story and not character design.Also you're trying to derail my point, the original point here >>744674025 is that the team does not have a singular coherent opinion on Stellar Blade.
>>744674020It will absolutely be violent. One, drones could handle so many small package deliveries. Two, robots can eventually handle most package deliveries. What happens to all those delivery/truck drivers? Welfare? Convert them all to physical labor temporarily until robots are good enough to do simple trades jobs? Things will change. Anons better be ready.
>>744674853cont.Also I don't believe in auteur theory. We've seen many legendary game devs fuck up without the same team.
Remember that AI produced content cannot be intellectual property. Pirate and distribute an AI product today!
>>744636724It's probably fake but I wish this was true.
>>744675029This is a buy signal.
>>744675305It isn't
The problem with "AI art" is that it's more about hardware & model handicap rather than the artist's input.any indian can shit out good aiart if they're willing to roll the seed dice long enough. There is nothing special about it
>>744674853So, Yoko Taro, a single person, is equivalent to the entire art and sound team on the Nier Automata development team? >You talk as if it was catapulted into the mainstream for its story and not character design.Was 2B's character design the reason why the game was quality, soulful and had an identity?>is that the team does not have a singular coherent opinion on Stellar Blade.I don't know what you mean by this. Which "team"? The Nier Automata team? The Stellar Blade team? Also, >>744674025 wasn't your original point. This >>744672947 was. And it was about "quality", "soul", and "identity". Your point here >>744674025 is only that video games are made by many people rather than one. But you're avoiding defining how much of an impact Yoko Taro, the director and writer of Nier Automata, had on the game. >>744674968Which doesn't diminish the impact that the legendary game devs had on the games that had great teams behind them. But let's have a thought experiment. Which game would be better? A Nier Automata made without Yoko Taro or a Nier Automata made with YT but with a different development team.
>>744636659i dont really care about shit like thisai isnt good enough to make actual usable shit in games anyway, at worst you get some slop poster on a wall that 99% of people will straight up never look at
>>744675468AI artists will talk about "authorial intent" while continuing to make shit that looks exactly the same.>>744675491>Also, >>744674025 (You) wasn't your original point. This >>744672947 was.Different anon.>>744675491>A Nier Automata made without Yoko Taro or a Nier Automata made with YT but with a different development team.The one that keeps a majority of the team.
>>744675029>Pirate and distribute an AI product today!/v/ already does this with non-AI products. There's no advantage to the game developer to avoid using AI tools.
>>744671950Yeah, I'm sorry, I really don't care about your work on the UI, that's why you're not the first name in the credits and that's why nobody will miss you
>>744675468Do you think artists and musicians just conjure finished works out of thin air? They have to draft, scrap, adjust and use references until they get it right.
>>744636724huge win for indian gamers
isnt it legally required to put AI in your games tags on steam? the shitposter is a retard
>>744675616E33 had plenty of authorial intent assisted by AI and was a hit. You already lost.
>>744675714>They have to draft, scrap, adjust and use references until they get it right.With Diffusion you're actively choosing to minimize the decision making in these processes, leaning it closer to the training data as a sacrifice. Not the same thing.
>>744675616So, all you want to talk about is this? >Teams have more than one personYou don't care about discussing the "quality", "soul" and "identity" of a video game?
its sad to see people dont know the difference between using AI as a tool and generating an entire game from it
>>744675874I don't care, even before learning that I thought E33 looked like shit and didn't buy. The market isn't one person.
>>744675874>authorial intent>placeholder assetsYou really are grasping at the thinnest of straws
>>744675714they still have to work their hands and brain to make something good. what the fuck is pajeet typing prompts doing?
>>744636659>LOOK, THE COMPANY MADE AN ADD USING A POPULAR TOOL!I literally do not care.
>>744675989It doesn't matter if you don't care about cars. They will still replace your horse.>>744675993>it doesnt count!You lost.
But it looks bad.
>>744640642One was pushed by tencent as part of CCPs soft power pushThe other was supposed to be the game that proved Nintendo was holding back gamefreak and then turned out mediocre so they couldn't push the narrative anymore.
>>744675468art is a meme and worthless as a titleeffortless shit like urinals are considered art because there's meaning and intent behind themmindless shit like paintings drawn by animals are considered art even though they're nothing more than pictures without any thought put behind themart does not automatically mean "good", and I unironically don't understand why some people are so defensive of it/desperate to be a part of it
>>744676112>One was pushed by tencent as part of CCPs soft power pushIsn't SB korean?
>>744675874Yep. There is absolutely nothing wrong with AI being used to keep costs and useless employees to a minimum and most importantly, ACTUALLY RELEASE FUCKING GAMES.
>>744675874Yep, and it allowed them to shit all over the entire industry of blue haired trannies with a small team and low budget.
>>744676235without concept art games wouldnt exist, i dont know why you think this was a good point
>>744675997the pajeet is literally using his hands and brains to prompt. you're using the wrong argument because you still don't fully understand what art creation actually is
>>744676345Roblox and Minecraft and Fortnite do fine without concept art.
>>744676435you gotta try better for the rage bait
>>744675989Yes, the market is made up of many people and not one retard like you.
>/v/ would rather live in a soulless dystopia were AI dominates and controls everything and human creativity and freedom has died completely if it means to btfo trannies and lefties
>>744676462But those games do do fine without concept art.
>>744676345>without concept art games wouldnt existthat's wrongthe majority of concept art also does not have deeper meaning than "it looks good"
She is so pretty /v/ros
>>744676519its the fucking ground work, the foundation you dont just make a game from thin air randomly on a monday night
>>744676536trve
>>744676490And yet you're here with us on /v/.
>>744675934>You don't care about discussing the "quality", "soul" and "identity" of a video game?You think Stellar Blade looks good, to me it looks like an Unreal asset flip and is the company's worst work. We probably won't agree on much.
>>744676490AI is a tool. Get over your hysteria.
>>744676617Roblox, Minecraft and Fortnite did fine without that foundation.
>>744676490>let me ignore the last 15 years of slop everywhere, its all AI fault
>>744676657It's not important to me if you think Stellar Blade is trash. What I would like to know is what game you think has "quality", "soul" and "identity".
>>744676712you keep bringing up live service games. lets me and you build a sky scraper with no blueprints and see how it goes
>>744675714Yeah, that's creative process.With AI you spend time solving math equations (only because of the model's limitations), until your dopamine hits, often randomly.The point is that your input is about working AROUND AI's quirk; it's not the same.
>>744676839Yea, I keep bringing up video games. That's what we're talking about right? Video games. And those games didn't really need concept art blueprints.
>>744676852With art you spend time solving problems involving composition, lighting, anatomy, structure, texture, color until your dopamine hits.
>>744676815Coherency of identity.Any moron can mishmash popular trends together in actively contradictory ways and I simply don't care for that (eg Marathon).
>>744676815>>744677046cont.for example I'd say Bayonetta and Outrun have sovl despite being completely different things.
>>744677046>Coherency of identityThat's not a video game.>>744677142>Bayonetta and OutrunWhat makes these games "quality"? Where does the "soul" in these games come from?What are their "identities"?
>>744674489>Even though Monaca did the music for this Nier rip off, the Ariana Grande wannabe vocals had me muting it after a few hours.Filtered
>>744674489>recognizing ariana grandego back
>>744677305>Where does the "soul" in these games come from?Communicating the atmosphere the devs wanted through coordination of art, audio, and gameplay. A jazzy urban fantasy, a really chill drive on a highway. Feelings the team understood that they in turn made a game around.This is why you can get a professional team to do a remake and they don't understand the assignment. Like how a lot of modern 80s nostalgia feels so fake because you know a lot of people weren't there. You could simplify it down into prompts or a nice list, but that doesn't encapsulate the "it" factor. You either get the assignment or you don't.
>>744677762So what or where is the "soul" in games like Bayonetta and Outrun?
>>744677945You're arguing like a reddit atheist lol.I said what I wanted to, not much more to add. If you don't get why a chill drive communicated into an Arcade game works, I'm not going to bother explaining, you're just not a fan. Fair enough. I'm not going to convince you to see the appeal.
>>744676415>pen and paper artist doesn't fully understand what art creation actually is>>>>proompting requires brain activity
>>744678196What's the point of discussing things like the "quality", "soul", and "identity" of a video game if the moment you don't think you're gonna convince anyone to think the same way you do, you're gonna walk away?
>>744678458>What's the point of discussing things like the "quality", "soul", and "identity" of a video game You asked me like three times to engage in the discussion and I eventually caved in. You're the one that wants to argue this, not me lol>if the moment you don't think you're gonna convince anyone to think the same way you do, you're gonna walk away?I explained my perspective, I think decently well. If it reads like Egyptian hieroglyphics then what point is there extending this into a 100 reply chain?
>>744678269Yes, you're just an autist grinding out art techniques and not expressing anything worthwhile. Thats why you post mm instead of your "real" art
>>744678269effort does not equal artI don't like it but it seems to be the common stance considering some widely-acclaimed art-pieces
>>744678750nta, but show me an original character created with AI assistance that had a shelf life of more than one week.>Tung Tung Sahur
>>744678642I didn't force you. I wanted to make sure you did not want to talk about it. I asked if you wanted to talk about those things. You pivoted to discussing these things and away from the "Team is more than one person" topic.>I explained my perspective, I think decently well.My questions have been pretty direct. What or where is the soul in a game like Bayonetta and Outrun?
>>744678750>u-umm...you're a stinky poopy fart face!!!!that's what i thought, jeet
>>744672179>Is it gonna make the game look better?As AI stands right now? Probably not. All it produces is clichés and needs a lot of oversight by humans to adjust it. You saw the shift up clip. It looked bad.>Is it gonna make it play better?If companies like shift-up rely on vibe-coding, then it's gonna be doomed. Then again, there really isn't anything significant to coding in general. You can get a monkey to code, given enough time.>Is it gonna make it cheaper?Absolutely yes, but only insofar as the market remains open and competition is allowed to play out.
this game is raped
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>>744676490it's just curry bots
>>744679156https://xcancel.com/IsraelPresident/status/2082141984987258919#mit's over, latinxs got turned into jews
