I saw a thread archived recently and I wanted to continue the discussion. I get the aesthetics of these things, that's what got me interested in the first place, but from a practical standpoint why not just turn your phone/tablet into a retro emulation device?
>>744651160My phone is old.My phone is for communication.My phone is uncomfortable to game on.
>>744651160The aesthetic is the point. Retro hardware consumerism is vapid consumerism.A phone has some weaknesses, most significantly the lack of physical buttons making high speed/precision gameplay difficult, but this isn't the main reason people buy retro/chinkhelds
>>744651160I guess it's about something truly dedicated to just one thing. For me touch screen is also annoying as i have big fingers aswell
>>744651298>>744651301Forgot to add, I presuppose connecting them to those bluetooth gamepads. So that solves the touchscreen issue.
>>744651160>from a practical standpoint why not just turn your phone/tablet into a retro emulation deviceHere are my reasons for going the wuhanheld route instead:>doesn't waste my phone's battery>a handheld is smaller than a controller>don't have to combine multiple objects into one>I press the power button and am instantly in a game>won't be frying my coolerless phone with Switch emulation and PC games>offline device with no notifications is good to avoid distractions>don't have to settle for touchscreen controls at any pointIt's the same as asking "why get a PC if you have a laptop". I mean sure, a laptop can game, but it's much better at email and multimedia the same way a phone is optimized for multimedia and texting.
>>744651398Emulation on Android already adds a few ms of delay. I wouldn't want to lug around a full-sized controller AND add even more delay by using bluetooth.
>>744651160Yeah I never got it either, I just duck taped d-pads and buttons on my phone!
>>744651398>So that solves the touchscreen issueI know i could get a controller but at that point a simple chinkheld does the job better. And i don't get distracted by my phone being my phone
>>744651160This assumes you have an overpowered phone in the first place which you'd be retarded to have.
>>744651592Even with the budget phones you can emulate most of retro gayms easily
>>744651592Yes buying a shitty phone and shitty chinkheld is a much wiser purchasing decision than buying a powerful phone which can do both
>>744651160phones are shit at emulating AND they lack the human interface devices necessary, and lagdroid is for subhumans, simple as
>>744651830It is. It's also cheaper.
You retards really play with you handhelds in public and when traveling?
>>744651398retarded phonigger
>>744651830Unironically.>>744651704>Most
Playing a game on using a flat screen for buttons feels awkward and it often registers the wrong input. Retro handhelds feel better than screens. Everyone should be happy that there's room for both, but since 4chins is filled with idiots they will argue over the shittier options for the sake of wasting time.
I have the ambernic that looks like the sp. I like just being able to toss it into a bag and not worry about. I’m also trying to use my phone less because it will just lead to doomscrolling and ending up here on 4chan anyways. That being said I wanted to read more this year so I mainly just read on my mini ereader now.
>>744651924i kill retarded faggot assed niggers like you in broad daylight daily
>>744651160You do you. I prefer having a separate device with actual cooling than turning my phone into a heater.
>>744651830If I already have a phone that does everything I need why would I upgrade to have a lesser experience when I can just buy a dedicated device to get my gaming on?
>>744651987You're an underage fag
>>744652007Because anything your phone can't already run won't run on a cheap chinkheld either. If you're going to fork off a few hundreds for a high spec chinkheld might as well spend it on a better phone instead. It's not like modern hardware (both phones and handhelds) last more than 3-5 years
>>744651160I bought thus gameboy color looking thing from a chinese market. It feels kind of cheap like I could break it with too much use also it gets pretty hot pretty quickly. Maybe I bought a cheap one but I don't know much about retro consoles.
>>744652073ironic projection, kill yourself before i kill you and mail your head in a box to your mother
>>744652118I've had my current phone for 6. And lading any phone up with a bunch of emulators is sure as shit not gonna help with it's lifespan. I'd rather keep them separate even if I upgrade.
>>744652118>might as well spend it on a better phone insteadWhy? A better phone isn't really much better for gaming due to the lack of cooling, ergonomics, battery, etc.
>>744651160playing blue archive drains my battery like crazy. Rather have a separate device to game that way I'm not stuck somewhere with my phone to talk
>>744652118>might as well spend it on a better phone instead>1500 € base model, pls understandOf course, of course
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>>744651160Waiting for Steam emulation to keep improving until it's finally decent. I want something that allows me run PS4 era RPGs.
>>744651160I'm not poor so I can buy something that emulates everything I need and have a phone
>>744652752What do you intend to run that you think requires a 1500$ phone?How much does the equivalent chinkheld cost?Literally any phone made in thr past decade should have zero trouble running anything up to the GBA. You could run GBA games on your microwave probably.And nothing portable (short of a Deck) is going to run PS2/Wii gamesThe only question is where to draw the line. PS1/PSP/DS/GameCube is where a cheaper phone will falter and a more expensive device might work
>>744653284>And nothing portable (short of a Deck) is going to run PS2/Wii gamesSub $300 wuhanhelds are running Switch and lightweight PC games these days. PS2 and Wii and WiiU are no big deal for anything $250 and up.
>>744651160You're 100% correct. If it's not a REAL UMPC that runs Linux/Windows there's no fucking point in spending on some dinky little Android shitbox when you could dump that money into your phone and just have all the exact same functionality+better specs than the chinkheld. You have to buy the phone anyway, you have to have the phone in your pocket anyway. Fitting it to be gaming capable makes wayyy more sense than a dedicated device.Then just use a controller to phone mount with your preferred controller which will objectively have better buttons than any chinkheld or dedicated gaming phone attachments.
>>744652152>analogue sticks on a GameBoy shaped handheldDo people seriously use these? They just look like they'd be uncomfortable as hell to use. And not just that, but the entire point of these things is to feel like you're playing on a GameBoy, so I don't know why you'd even want to use this play any games that require analogue sticks.
>>744653604Is that right? I haven't really kept up with PS2 emulation much but it used to be so difficult that even top spec PCs would struggle with some games
>>744652752>his phone plan doesn't give him a new mainline phone every time his old one kicks the bucketNGMI I get a new Galaxy whatever every time the old one gives out
What a stupid thing to get tribal about.
>>744653686>but it used to be so difficult that even top spec PCs would struggle with some gamesI mean, maybe 15 years ago anon
>>744653750s-shut up!I'm not out of touch, it's the children who are wrong!
>>744653686He's party lying and partly telling the truth.Any shitty wuhandheld can run PS2/Wii.No shitty wuhandheld is runnning Switch/WiiU. There just aren't good android forks for this shitPeople claim normal phones can run 3DS as well and it just speaks to the standards of these retards when you go to run it and find out it's half speed
>>744653821I get you anon, i truly get you don't worry. I feel old as shit aswell sometime
>>744653850>No shitty wuhandheld is runnning Switch/WiiUAnon, my RP6 and gf's AYN Thor run Switch game swith accurate performance. What are you talking about? I just finished Unicorn Overlord on my RP6, locked 60fps the entire time.
>>744653850My odin 3 is running switch pretty good. 60fps patches work too. Just a few compatibility issues but the tech itself is stronger than the switch.
>>744653750>>744653821>>744653889I mean you're out of touch but not out of line.PCSX2 is better now but echoes of it being one of the shittiest emulators in the past remain. Even now it takes way more tinkering for acceptable performance and you run into things like the 3D GTA games (The best sellers on the console) STILL not having 5 star compatibility and needing tinkering at launch to fix issues in the presentation.
>>744653925>swith accurate performanceThat's a funny way of saying "with frame drops" nigga
>>744651298desu playing on something that was specifically made for playing games on FEELS a lot better than playing on your phone.And also I'd rather have a dedicated device, rather than burn out my phone's battery.
>>744654210>desu playing on something that was specifically made for playing games on FEELS a lot better than playing on your phoneWhich is why we strap the phone to a dedicated first party controller
>>744651830I can't begin to imagine how indian one must be to even humor the concept of a telescopic controller. Just think about it. >hmm yes, I've watched all my fellow sirs videos on youtube, this 21:9 $400 tracking device is very good>I will now spend another $100 to get a shoddy plastic tumor I have to couple and detach over and over again (everyone buys a new one every 6 months, but I'm sure that's not indicative of anything)>which I'm also going to have to carry around>I'm so fucking clever, let me build up my izzat on 4chan
gaming on a phone is indian behaviour
>>744653968>60fps patches work tooHitting above 30 doesn't mean it's not going below 30
>>744654403That's kinda the case for PC too. I don't find it that big a deal.
>>744654491>That's kinda the case for PC tooMaybe yours nigga but even a 3070ti can handle up to PS4 60FPS losslessly at 1440p ultrawide. And there's two whole gens above that where it's basically just a game of toggling meme settings to see if you can get the FPS to drop at all
>>744653850You can play switch just fine if you're not a nonce looking to play ubizelda. And the bar for PS2 is actually much higher than youtubers will have you believe, you're gonna eat shit with <$200 devices.
>>744654329>ignores the fact that I'd rather not waste my phone's battery>ignores the fact that I'd be carrying around two clunky-ass accessories for this>ignores the fact that you now have to deal with retarded latency>ignores the fact that a phone glued to a plastic arm sticking out of a knockoff XB360 controller looks infinitely more retarded than a simple retro handheldThere's a lot more reasons to never use these shitty things.
>>744654382The most indian behavior of all is having more Android devices than absolutely necessary (one). Because the OS is a complete shitbox where all the user driven content is just thirdies trying to give you viruses or ports of good PC user content like Open MW, the recomps, etcDo I want to invest in the android ecosystem (lmfao) or do I want to spend like 40 dollars to flip the existing phone I already have into a gaming capable device?
>>744654589We were talking about switch emulation and my point is that the emulator itself is the problem with hitches not the hardware. (At least on my odin) Because I can also run PC emulated games at a full 60fps like octopath
>>744651160The average phone is garbage and has no Vulkan drivers
>>744654732>ignores the fact that I'd rather not waste my phone's batteryYou'll have a better phone because you spent the chinkheld money on the phone and batteries are about to be made replaceable by the EU anyway which will solidify this as the best strategy. I just keep a charger handy and top off throughout the day gaming or no gaming.>ignores the fact that I'd be carrying around two clunky-ass accessories for thisYou have a bag when you go out. I'm carrying two cheap to replace accessories in it, you're carrying around a theft prone device.>ignores the fact that you now have to deal with retarded latencyEvery controller in big 2026 is wireless, including the Switch's inputs, if your phone is having trouble with latency it's because it's a shitty poverty phone>ignores the fact that a phone glued to a plastic arm sticking out of a knockoff XB360 controller looks infinitely more retarded than a simple retro handheldWho cares about what normalfags think I have a comfy to grip form factor and first party inputs and if the controller ever gives out I replace it instead of needing to take apart a chinkheld and track down it's specific inputs for sale online.
>>744654735all the good chinkhelds run linux
>>744654735What Android device? My RP5 runs Linux. Good luck with that crap, you'll need it.
>>744654735>Because the OS is a complete shitbox where all the user driven content is just thirdies trying to give you viruses or ports of good PC user content like Open MW, the recomps, etcMost people install a custom OS on them specifically because Android is shit.
>>744655027>>744655030That's not a chinkheld thats a UMPC and you're excused from any criticism
>>744654732Please explain how carrying a phone and a controller is worse than carrying a phone and a second deviceOr are you going outside with your chinkheld but leaving your phone at home?
Whats the durability of the "premium" side of these chinkhelds? Can they last for decades like Nintendo past handhelds or they'll break if you are not careful enough?
>>744655026>Who cares about what normalfags thinkYou spent multiple threads crying that normies will see you as a manchild if you play games on a dedicated handheld.
>>744655229NTA but >Phone + controller + battery you'll need to keep it from dying + adapter Or>Phone + handheldAssuming you get something like a thor you could fit both a phone and that comfortably in your pocket. I have never walked around with a controller in my pocket.
>>744655332You realize that you're in a reply chain, the very first line of which is>The aesthetic is the pointWe know that the real reason you're buying Chinese toys instead of playing on your phone is because you think it looks better, if you accept that too then there is no reason to pretend that there are objective reasons to it and we can stop arguing right here
>>744655332???Not my line of reasoning because my solution with the controller mount is obviously worse in that department.My points are mainly that android fucking sucks and pocketing gaming devices has sucked since the Gameboy so why would I spend 100-300 dollars on another android device to shove into my pocket when I have a bag anyway and could just do a combo of controller mount/touchscreen in jrpgs for when I dont wanna pull the controller out
>>744655295Been like 3 or 4 years since high end stopped being the exact same as low end but with a pricier chip inside, but nothing built today is comparable to pre-DS nintendium on any field, I'll tell you that much. You don't hear of those dying yet.
>>744655519>battery you'll need to keep it from dyingBro, your charger? Where the fuck are you going, an expedition to Siberia?
>>744655680>still another device to bring with>bro just stay plugged into the wall
>>744655560True. My DS despite being scratched and having a few drops until now, it's still standing like nothing has happened.
>>744655519Oh yeah, but have you considered:>phone + handheld + the 5kg weight you need to carry with you at all times so that I can win the argumentIf you're making shit up then I can make shit up too
>>744655803How fast do you think this shit depletes battery? I played Dusklight for an hour and lost like 8%Perchance it could have something to do with the fact that the phone my phone plan gave me for free is more expensive than 90% of high end chinkhelds and has a better battery than your 200 dollar shitheap that's dropping frames in Saturn and N64 games
This is why handhelds with stick batteries where the best. No charger needed, just keep an extra pair and swap them. Bonus point if they are rechargable at home. I miss those times, why everything need a hard to change battery
>>744655946The main issue with using your phone as your gaming device is the battery life. I don't even consider the other shit that big a deal but you'd definitely need a battery charger or portable battery plus the controller.
>>744655976Go ahead and shill your phone company anon. You clearly want to.
>>744656228>trying to cry shill when I've given you literally zero brand names and you yourself even acknowledge this
>>744656127I mean batteries are becoming replaceable in phones next year (based EU) so it'll become less of a problem. However, I maintain that you're completely fucking insane for thinking the battery drain is anything that would make it anyway difficult to make it through the day on one full charge. Guild Wars 1, a fucking MMO, doesn't do shit to my battery.
>>744656385That wasn't a gotcha I'm legitimately curious
>>744656579You do you, bro.
>>744656579That's great for the EU but how long will that take to actually hit the market and how will that effect the phones already in circulation?
I guess I use my handheld differently than others. It solely used for my downtime at work so I can pull it out of my pocket and stop it at any moment so that usually means games that don’t require a stick. Ain’t now why I am putting so clunky controller in my pocket.
I want your guys’ batteries. I’ve been at work for almost 4 hours and it’s been dead as fuck. So I have been on my phone off and on and my battery is already down to 49 percent.
>>744656696Oh lolI use the mechanism brand mount+a magnet case for my phone.They attach onto the back of controllers, they have dualsense, steam controller, Xbox, and a 8bitdo, I think a switch one too not sure. They have ones that replace the battery back and ones that grip the controller. The battery pack replacements are more secure but I don't dislike the gripsThen on the phone side it's a magnet mount. It's pretty cool because you can rotate it vertical for DS/Arcade games/some android ports gave crazy vertical fovs like links awakening DXHD and gen1recompThe neck isn't bendy but it has two screw tighteners at the top and bottom so you can get the center of balance even
>>744656849>Great for the EULmao america had apple get rid of the lightning charger because if the EU regulation. Phone developers aren't gonna spend the money worrying about if the right models are going to the EU and the battery being replaceable will be worldwide standard by the end of the year
>>744656849A bobby will come down and replace all the batteries in your household with replaceable ones free of charge of course.
>>744657208I'm talking about the actual phone anon. Not some random ass accessories that mean nothing if the phone ain't right
>>744654190All that means is that 30FPS games are 30FPS and 60FPS games are 60FPS. Don't really know what to tell you. Yeah, it's not got the grunt of a $3,000 PC handheld to run Tears of the Trannies at 4k120fps, duh.>>744655229Not him, but the controller is the size of three handhelds and doesn't even make sure my phone battery will stay full while I game.
>game on your phoneNo, I spend all day at work on the phone. I want a hard line.
>game on your phonePhones with headphone jacks are either retardedly overpriced or too weak for anything past 5th gen.
>>744656579guild wars 1 isn't an MMO and it's a 20 year old game, of course it's no challenge for a modern phone
I prefer the original hardware as both a collector and enjoyer of old handhelds. But with so many, a singular device does make sense, especially from a cost and space effective standpoint. I'm at a point I've committed enough I'm sticking to OG hardware. I would not blame anyone for buying into these if they don't have the hardware already.That said, I've been skeptical of their own longevity. Are these kind of devices sturdy and well put together? How are older models holding up?
>>744657912Collecting is an entirely separate hobby from just gaming.Respectable but separate. I doubt anyone into these kinds of things would have a collectors mindset.
>>744657912>That said, I've been skeptical of their own longevity. Are these kind of devices sturdy and well put together? How are older models holding up?I haven't owned my RP6 long, but I have torn into it to do mods. It's built to the same standard as a PSP or DS. I'd say the Fisher Price ones are probably more sketchy, but the "mainstream" wuhanhelds seem of decent quality.
>>744651160>from a practical standpoint why not just turn your phone/tablet into a retro emulation device?I use a small handled (gkd pixel 2) which takes less space in my pocket than a controller would while having a jack port for audio.It's nice to use for public transports or waiting rooms, and because it has a jack port it's also nice as a music player. If I had a phone grip instead, playing would still use the phone's battery and have eventual distractions from notifications and whatnot.When doing long travels I do use a tablet + controller as a proper emulation device for hotels, but the handheld is always nicer when on the go.
Which one of these handhelds is the best?
>>744660721Odin 3
>>744660721>the bestOdin 3>the sweetspotRetroid Pocket 6>the sweetspot, forma de 4:3Retroid Pocket Nova>the sweetspot, forma de DS overpricedoThor>the best up to PSXToo many to name.
>>744660721What do you want it for?Portability? Power? What gen you trying to play up to?
>>744661042Up to and including the ps2. I basically want a gayming tablet. Something like the ally x and.similar handhelds are not worth it for me. Seems odin 3 is my best bet.
>>744657451Galaxy S23
>>744661213Odin 3 is overkill for PS2.If you want it "tablet" sized, then Odin 2 Portal is where its at. Same chip as the RP6, Thor, and Odin 2 but a 7-inch screen and bigger battery.
>>744651160Ease of use, comfort, and features.I can't remote play games on my pc with my phone through wifi. >>744651924Unironically yes. It's a lifesaver if you're stuck somewhere with no wifi, or have younger cousins to entertain. >>744661213Odin 3 is the best if you can wait for the pre-orders to die down.If you don't mind waiting you might as well wait for the retroid 7.
>>744663898>I can't remote play games on my pc with my phone through wifi. What? My phone has steam link and moonlight
>>744664694Apparently his doesn’t. I don’t think he asked about your phone.
>>744664816They fundamentally support it.
