>pls take responsibility for raping meWhat exactly was she fishing for? if he’d said “ok I’ll take responsibility”, she’d just be fine with it?
>>744651609She's implying that he should take responsibility and raise his rape-child.
>>744651609show me in the script where she asked anything of her rapist other than more sex (yes this happened)
>>744651609>What exactly was she fishing for?money>she’d just be fine with it?yes, she canonically spent all the time reading minotaurs novel instead of studying medicine textbooks
>>744651609Making a woman feel bad after sex is criminal. You should hold them in your arms, kiss them and go on cute dates with them. Jimmy should be gelded for his crimes.
Where is it implied she was actually raped?What i understood is that jimmy did not want her womb growth
>>744654792only sensitive young men think like this, which is why foids despise them.
>>744651609It wasn't rape, she wanted him to take responsibility for knocking her up
>>744656005HOW DARE YOU STAND WHERE HE STOOD?
>>744655790It's widely considered the whole point of her comment about the doors not locking from the inside was to imply it
>>744656005I am that! I am a sensitive young man!
>>744655790>Jimmy knows how to make a 'knockout' concoction using the food processor and suggests it immediately when they have to get past Swansee.>Anya questions why the crew doors do not have locks on them>Anya attempts to grab the gun issued by Pony Express to protect herself but Curly won't let her have it, so she hides it instead.You have to read between the lines.
>take responsibility... FOR RAPINGNever made any sense, especially with Curly and Anya's dialogue.Curly>Us being let go is not reason to hurt yourself!Anya:>I'm pregnantCurly:>You're what? Who would you-Anya:>Captain... I told you.Curly:>Listen to me. I can fix this. I've known him for a long time. I'll talk to him.Doesn't seem like rape. Whole game just talks about her not wanting to abort the kid but Jimmy wanting her to abort it.Seems like she told Curly that she messed around with Jimmy but didn't tell him she got knocked up.
>>744651609She wasn't asking him to marry her or "make it right". She wanted him to admit what he did and stop letting her carry the fallout alone while he walked around blameless. "Take responsibility" meant own the rape and the pregnancy, not dodge it with "take care of it." His refusal to do even that is what pushed things over the edge, not her hoping for some tidy happy ending.
>>744656005No one cares about real foids. Men always have an imaginary woman they're in love with even if they marry a real foid.
I always took it as a consensual but abusive relationship and jimmy was getting increasingly violent and erratic
>>744651609It's about taking responsibility for his crimes.
>>744656771>Men always have an imaginary woman they're in love with even if they marry a real foid.lollmaospeak for yourself, dumbass
>>744651609A tranny can't get pregnant.
>>744657318Yeah but we're not talking about you
>>744656281you will never have sexo
>>744651609who disshe cute
>>744651609Take responsibility just means admit to what he has done. It's not one of your Japanese animes.
>>744657569A whore
>>744656637>and stop letting her carry the fallout aloneWhat does this entail, exactly? Should he say "I'm sorry" and become her simp?
>>744657818Pay child support.
>>744657578>Admit to a crime that carries prison time>Or just don't say anythingHmm.
>>744657874Oh god. I now understand why Jimmy crashed the ship. That was the lesser evil.
>>744657890Reporting the act itself is optional. If money is tight as it seemed for her then if anything there's an outright disincentive to report it, he can't support the kid from the slammer
>>744657890Having consensual sex and getting someone pregnant isn't a crime now, is it?
>>744651609She didn't get raped. She consented to sex and then regretted it after she became pregnant.
>my rape in a two year-long space voyage at the last day of my job in one of the last manned, non-automatic ships after becoming completely destitute with no severance payment would be a little burned, almost imperceptible pixel in the back of my mind-Anya, apparently
>>744656607>Jimmy knows how to make a 'knockout' concoction using the food processor and suggests it immediately when they have to get past Swansee.To put the others out of commission so he can have consensual sex with his girlfriend without being interrupted.>Anya questions why the crew doors do not have locks on themShe wants to have 24/7 sex with her boyfriend.>Anya attempts to grab the gun issued by Pony Express to protect herself but Curly won't let her have it, so she hides it instead.Impromptu abortion tool and/or prop for her fetish play where she holds the gun to Jimmy's head and makes him cum inside.
>>744657818What do you think it entails? If you rape a woman and get her pregnant what do you feel the repercussions should be? I'm guessing your severely autistic and have never approached a woman based on the way you type.
>>744651609I feel everyone is kind of a piece oif shit in this game aside from anya and swansee
>>744658919I wouldn't rape a woman, so I wouldn't have to deal with the follow up hypotheticals. Step one would be asking what it entails. Like does she need a hug? Would she even want one? Would I care to give one, if I already did what I did without regard for her feelings?
>>744659808How would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast this morning
>>744659929I wouldn't skip breakfast. That's a meaningless question.
>>744651609I hate ps1 style graphics in modern games
>>744656005So true sister men should beat their wives bloody instead
>>744651609It is a funny quirk of liberal thinking how they believe bad people don't understand they are evil. That enough therapy and welfare will make them suddenly care about right from wrong. This is where the obsession with "responsibility" comes from, they truly think a criminal denying misdeeds is an earnest lack of understanding instead of a willful post hoc attempt at evading consequences.
>>744660119Most women these days are entitled and very self assured. They don't need coddling after sex. Just say, "You were awesome, babe" and start sleeping while still inside her.
They should make a mouthwashing two where curly gets robot legs. Also he teams up with Swansea's dog.
>>744660024>inability to answer or understand hypothetical questionsYeah you're a retard this is a symptom of extremely low iq
First world rapists should be forced to go clothes shopping with her and buy lunch afterwards.
>if you rape a woman and get her pregnant, you should take responsibility!What kind of weird incel fantasy is this thread. Caveman days you raped a woman, got her pregnant, dragged her bacl to your cave and now she was your concubine. Are people in here suggesting Jimmy should have went full Grug-mode and locked her in his cabin?
>>744660390What a sad development
imagine allowing yourself to get r*ped by some mf named jimmy
>>744660653Weird that you would accuse others of incel posting only to make the most incel post of all time immediately after. Literally 0 self awareness LOL
>>744651609She never said or demanded anything. She just was raped, may have said so to the captain, and whats his face crashed the ship. You may not have noticed, but the game is not you being chased by a crazy bitch yelling rape on a ship. There’s just a sad girl who acts raped, and the player character crashes the ship for what appears to be his participation in that. She does not ask you to take responsibility, the screen just flashes it at you
>>744652121Ok but why
>>744651609>"game" (whose gameplay nobody actually cares about) that's all about making the player feel bad because the main character is an irredeemably evil person who's acting like they are the hero of the story/ do terrible things because they treat everything like a game (GET IT? IT'S SO META)There has to be a term for this shit. It's pretty much a whole genre at this point.
>>744651609I don't know anon, what was Jimmy 'fishing for' when he chimped out and crashed the spaceship?
>>744656637She never asked for anything, please quote for me in the game any request she made of the MC
>>744660995Delusional narrator, harkens back very far but Edgar Allen Poe and William Golding did it
>>744661092>she should have to blatantly ask after being a victimYou're a sub iq retard and not worth conversing with
Men would rather crash a space ship and blame a woman than read the text on their own eyelids
>>744651609Mouthwashing threads started dying out after like 3 replies about a month after the game's releaseWhy are they suddenly active again?
>>744661336It's a metaphor for the sperm crashing into her eggs. Very artistic.
>>744661297Ask what? What demand do you think she is making? She just got pregnant and the would-be father crashed the ship about it. Then she copes with impending death by trying to nurse the wounded captain until she can’t take it anymore and commits suicide. That’s literally all.
>>744661228You mean "unreliable narrator"? Yes, you are not wrong, but that's not exactly what I meant. It isn't just about that.
>>744660995>Make faggot anon mad for some reason-likes
>>744661540I say delusional because the narrator is specifically deluded he is not the antagonist or villain, its different
>>744661540Mouthwashing isnt a ‘you were an idiot for following orders!!!’ game though, its a ‘haha I the MC am lying to everyone, myself, and you’ sort of the surrealist unreliable senses thing. You are not a collaborator in the MC’s crimes in the way that that white phosphorous game has it
>>744661494You keep changing whatever point it is you're trying to make and I'm not gonna go back and forth with a sub iq retard any longer. So go ahead and feel like you "won" or whatever
>>744662227The only point I’ve ever made is she never asked for anything, and you don’t seem to understand that or know who you’re replying to. Point out the part of the game where she makes any demands or even requests, and what are they?
>>744661931Fair. I'm just kind of sick of the "the main character is delusional and think that they are the hero because haha get it people play hero when they play videogames even when they do things that would be morally wrong in real life". That isn't really the main point of Mouthwashing, but it does remind me quite a lot of that kind of stuff, and the tone is similarly "preachy" (I guess) at times.
>>744660513All you had to do was elaborate. I'm guessing you're a woman because you think it's my fault for not understanding you.
>>744662654Yeah it can be played pretty poorly especially in video games but I do enjoy the trope in literature (which can actually be more real and honest with much more harsh criticism) and try not to hate it just on principle of bad games Mouthwash doesn’t preach, it uses non-chronological and surrealist tricks to simulate a broken/panicked psyche (the game starts with you pressing the ‘crash’ button and not being told why, because Jimmy is both in a total adrenal panic state when he makes (or doesnt make but simply performs) that decision, and how later he is repressing the truth of his actions (bypass asking us to forget by not telling us until later) its all quite elegant really
>>744661425Traffic in this site isn't naturalAlso this is a general
>>744662417Sorry bud your sub iq so you simply can't get it. It's not your fault but your simply not worth having this discussion with. It's like trying to explain physics to a goldfish.
>>744662918>Every problem in my life is because of womenThanks for confirming that you're an incel.
>reading experimental novel trilogy>second to last chapter is called ‘Are These Experiments Really Necessary’?
>>744656005i played Danganronpa 1 recently and Makoto, the sensitive young man, being tricked by the evil stacy level foid Sayaka made a lot of sense
>>744662979You are unable to answer the question?
>>744662938Yes, I do actually like that in other media. It's specifically when it comes to videogames that it usually comes off as pretentious and annoying.And yeah, as much as I dislike the fans and the developers, I guess putting Mouthwashing in that same bag is not really fair.
>>744660047it's more like dreamcast graphics
>>744663053is it good?
>>744663048This isn't really true, but the fact that even in the Bible everything starts to go to shit when the first woman is created is pretty hilarious.
The only possible way this game is preaching is if you’ve ever attempted murder over a pregnancy
>>744656005The truth is, they want the kind of man that'll bend them over and fuck their brains out until they're a drooling mess of dopamine and bodily fluids while calling them all sorts of names, then stick around and cuddle afterwards.
>>744663434Yes its kino this is Paul McCartney’s favorite authorhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhxH6ZpMyeU
>>744651609Your brain is too full of cum and cliché anime lines, by responsibility she meant report yourself, not uwu do you want dinner, a bath or me?? >w<
>>744663125Your sub iq brain wouldn't be able to comprehend the answer so why waste any more of my time?
>>744663475It isn't really the game itself, just fans repeating the "take responsability" mantra over real life stuff that isn't nearly as bad.
>>744663716Just try me pal
Mouthwashing is just a badly written short movie that happened to have a cute rape bait and a blatant Evangelion "reference" (a copy, really) that made it look cooler than it was.The most hilarious part is Anya apparently telling Curly about the rape and Curly being "eh". And Anya apparently also telling Swansea about the rape and him just being cool with it, giving Jimmy the axe, accepting a drink from the fan-theorized "roofie guy", not even mentioning Anya once in his lengthy monologue and only giving a fuck about Jimmy's actions when Daisuke dies of carelessness.
>>744656607If he knocked her out what difference having locks in the door would make?
She wasn't raped, she took advantage of Jimmy who clearly has some kind of debilitating mental illness that she can't pick up on, got pregnant from it, and is now (possibly inadvertently) torturing some schizo with something he can barely comprehend
>>744663741Definitely true. It’s also worth noting that the take responsibility line is truly Jimmy’s own conscience. He is the one who feels guilty. That’s why he crashed the ship, he attempted family annihilation as his self-chosen responsibility. He attempts to take responsibility, but can’t face it forward. It’s his own fucking eyelids that are telling him to take responsibility. Plebs cant into surrealism or multiple meaning (and that’s why you rubes are so easy to subliminally control right down to the fucking molecule) like screaming at a Rorschach test for yelling at you
I won't play a game called ''Mouthwashing''I just won't
>>744663919They had regular casual sex and she got regular pregnant and Jimmy tried to kill everyone because he didn’t want to be a father
>>744663773It's a glorified walking simulator with a simple story that only gives the illusion of actual depth due to having an unreliable narrator, and i'm pretty sure the only reason this is a video game is because the writers aren't competent enough to write an actual novel
>>744664113It has depth you just are a shit reader
>>744664101Jimmy is clearly going through some kind of intense ongoing psychosis if we're allowed to diagnose him from his hallucinations, he can't be entirely responsible for not wanting to be a father
>>744664056This anon doesn't brush his teeth, lol.
>>744663913Night crawling.He can spike her drink insuring she's real sleepy and stays passed out while he enters her room later to pork her cute unconscious butt.
>>744664170>see essay discussing "depth">it's unironic "capitalism makes it worse for vulnerable people" schizophreniaI guess everything is deep when you suffer from psychosis
>>744664296Right, I actually completely agree. It’s natural to have deep deep existential crisis in any direction during a pregnancy like this of course the crisis is in the fact that he pressed to kill everyone button during his panic. There’s also a possible interpretation that he crashed the ship because she wanted to keep the baby and he did it.
>>744664170I meant that there's nothing particularly remarkable that warrants it having gained the popularity it did, you fucking retard. This kind of plot has been done better countless times in more appropriate mediums than a fucking video gameYou'd know if you actually knew how to read anything
>>744664412Its okay dude you’re not a literature guy anyways and your entire idea of literature interpretation comes from YouTube essays so I wouldn’t expect you to know anything about this.
>>744664412Well, that's just a case of decent writers self sabotaging a bit over dumb politics. Nothing new. Thare are plenty of good stories with some crappy political takes sprinkled in.
>>744664467Well, you’re wrong man. You can keep sitting there and calling it a mistake but if you can’t see the value of even a simple synthesis of these elements, then you’re just not getting the full pictureWhats the last book you read bud
>>744663048This is hilarious. A guy just asks for some clarification and gets prickly counter questions, followed by accusations of virginity. It's the classic female argument structure.
There are people that believe that SH3 is about abortion despite the devs saying it isn't and that it's just reflecting the same thing that happened to Alessa in SH1.Doesn't surprise me people pretend Mouthwashing is deeper than it is.People see what they want to see.
Indian thread
>>744664446I don't think the pregnancy was the driving cause, just an excuse at the end. The game makes a point that one: the crew regularly does these long hauls, two: the long hauls are psychologically taxing, three: that Jimmy has previously had problems coping, four: everyone is already stressed from their own personal financial situations, five: the stress is compounded by ship failures, six: the company is firing them all anyway. So Jimmy is a basket case on a psychologically intense and ultimately fruitless long haul trucking mission on a dilapidated ship, he hooks up with Anya because she's retarded and has zero empathy to sense someone in deep psychological stress I guess, then she drops a bomb on him and he snaps from the accumulated stress and goes down the Chris Watts family annihilator path. I really think people who make it into a "feels bad about the rape" thing are taking a slightly interesting story and making it a nursery rhyme.
>>744664654Dan Simmons' Hyperion. Though they're completely different types of stories so it's useless to compare, really. Unfortunately i'm mostly a sci-fi fag so i don't have a point of reference for more "down to earth" novels
>>744664701>a guyIt's you you're the seething incel
>>744664818That’s a very good point, and all very true. Yeah, it’s a shame that people take a story like this. That intentionally has the right amount of omission that allows for interpretation and a little bit of rorschacg testing, and take the interpretation that pisses them off the most assuming it’s the only one
>>744664818>Jimmy was ass drunk and thinking about the nuggets his autistic baby with Anya would be throwing at himI can see it.
>>744664639I'm commenting on the nature of perceived depth. You just have no place calling people shit readers if you don't get it or never noticed it.
>>744665009That’s cool. I last read nova express which I posted earlier, that’s actually sci-fi and real life surrealism at the same time, where they use planetary invasion as synecdoche all forms of bodily national racial sexual disruption from the outside. Anyways, I don’t really mean to call you illiterate or anything. It’s just there are works of media that intentionally use omission to tell multiple stories at once and mouthwash is a pretty good sophomore attempt at one
>>744665253He was probably thinking about how the entire months long mission was a total wash because he's busting what little remains of his ass for less than minimum wage on a joke mission for a joke product from a joke company on a job that had already been fully automated, and how he got fired halfway through it anyway, and how the only thing waiting for him on the other side of the trip is a fresh new hell of joblessness and struggle without the skills to make himself matter anywhere, to anyone, with nobody to turn to and no relief from the rapidly shrinking box he put himself in, and then someone he was close to (from his perspective, she didn't actually do this) betrayed him with the worst kind of slavery (to him, in his situation) imaginable that he can't afford or even emotionally process, right in the middle of his long building breakdown. So he annihilated everything around him.
I really appreciate how the game does not pull any punches when it comes to showcasing just how little Anya matters in the eyes of everyone, even the narrative. Any other game would've had her ghost or her mental projection torment and harass Jimmy, or have Swansea want to kill him because of what he did to her, or have him come to some sort of realization or epiphany after finding a memento of her or something.But no, this game just jettisons Anya from the narrative and everyone's minds the millisecond she dies: Her death is immediately eclipsed by Daisuke's death, which consequantially means Swansea's breakdown is entirely focused on him and not her. Jimmy blocks her out entirely, focusing exclusively on Curly and his own projections. And Curly is of course too nuggetted to acknowledge her in any way, even as he's turned into a popscicle while Jimmy larps being redeemed. If it wasn't for her showing up at the nightmare 'cake' scene, it really would feel as if she has been deleted from existance.
>>744664779It still can be. This isn’t death of the artist either, its collective conciousness. Who can truly say what their words dont mean in creative writing and creative reading, what is this, a court case? ‘Oh sorry dad this cant remind you of your lost first son’ go fuck yourself chinks
If Anya was drunk and took her pants off then took your pants off, you would do it
>>744665793Yeah definitely lol
>>744663553>this is Paul McCartney’s favorite authorWhy the fuck would anyone care?
>>744665793Yeah it defintely made for a more unique story that they didn't go down the route of having Anya's force ghost seek revenge on the evil men
>>744666186Anyone on the Sgt Pepper albums cover is notable, just a little endorsement that this author has had relevance. Also fuck you we love Paul
>>744666091Yes but I wouldn't take responsibility for that shit, police your vagina better
>Regretting it later>RapeWomen are their own worst enemy because in a decade crying rape will have lost all power
>>744666375She never cried such a thing here. She simply reported a pregnancy
>>744666091Apparently having sex with a woman who CLEARLY wants to have sex with you while being a bit drunk classifies as rape to some retards. The reverse doesn't, howeverSometimes i resent the internet for giving extremist retards a voice in anything that matters
>>744666492Talking more about the people using this game to do it. I don't care for the non existent future of some pixels
>>744663773Evangelion didn't come up with that design, it's not even a design just a person in bandages you dork
>>744666274>some drug addict faggots put him on an album coverWhat kind of raped niggercattle brain do you have that THAT is your endorsement instead of saying anything of quality about his writing?
Am I seriously supposed to believe they didn't run a train on Anya (or that she didn't want to do it) when they knew they were going to die? They drank enough mouthwash to actually get drunk, as someone who hates mint that would take me quite a bit longer to do.
>SAAR I POST IT AGAIN RAPE FOR IZZAT FUNNY SAARJust nuke this whole site.
744666943>Zoomerbabble
>>744657210>he actually loves his 3d pig disgusting love replacementAbsolutely pathetic
>>744663773>t. kid who has only watched anime
Why did the game devs make her so attractive?
>>744666764Look kid the post wasn't for you alright, now why don't you haul your heavy metal ass back to uranus
>>744656607how do we know Jimmy doesn't just hit her or something, that doesn't mean she's being raped
>>744654792Lonely incels say this.
need curly bf
>Call thread brown>AI vaguepost responseDurka Durka get shot by Kashmiri insurgency.
>>744667146Loathe to think who such a post might be for.Have a good day.
>>744651609If he had said yeah sure would she have been like oh ok
>>744656005This is kind of true. Most women (emphasis on most, not all) like to feel loved and appreciated during and after sex but once in a while they also crave feeling like total fucking whores only valued for their bodies. They key to keeping a woman sexually happy is knowing when to make them feel like a princes and when to make them feel like cheap meat slabs.
>>744667575To the person who asked if the book was good. I included a relevant reference to its time period and who it influenced, and a link to the author reading the first chapter, so the text might speak for itself.
>>744651609it's almost like it wasnt rape.
>>744667406The amount of people on 4chan like you who I see battling imaginary enemies is hysterical
>>744667112would you rape an ugly bitch?
>>744656005if women don't want that then I don't want womensorry not sorry but I just can't be with someone who doesn't love me for who I am
Why does Mouthwashing get random offtopic schizos anyway? Seems like a strange game to deserve it.
>>744667312True, only incels think women care for cuddles or affection. Real Chads know they wanna be fucked into submission. Thinking women are the romantic gender is why none of you guys ever score anything with them
>>744667721The game was pretty much as explicit as it could be about it being rape without outright saying it
>>744651609I will take responsibility
>>744667780Because it's surrealist and borrows from a more literary tradition, so people who actually know about how stories are written connect that to other similar works that act the same wayAnd no, this is not 'glazing', its just what it means to understand a genre and talk about it broadly when given an example of it
>>744667780I barely look at gaming related things on youtube but there was still a period where the game was plastered all over mine constantly. Shit got really popular and that means it attracts subhumans as well
I’m sure a relationship built on >haha sorry for holding you down and giving you a dozen creampies non consensually let’s get married I’m sorry baby Would have been a healthy couple
>>744667780because a foid being wronged is a topic in the gamethat and its a popular walking sim
>>744667743>EnemyThe naked bum on an off ramp is not my enemy, why would I think the same of some random compulsive masturbator? I called you brown and told you to do a brown thing, like die, instead of posting here.
>>744667872Omission is important, step as close as possible without saying it, could still be anything depending on who the player is or what they choose to see. Maybe the rape implication is the trick, being that it's the most enforced in the story, would be a great way to obfuscate the simple patterns of 'woman is nervous about first pregnancy with man she is not yet committed to, hesitant for further sexual activity', no?
>>744667993Anya is quite literally built for that type of relationship and it was consensual
>>744667872There's nothing there to hint at a rape, if Anya was raped there are three other crew members who would arrest the rapist. She got sloppy and got pregnant by a bum.
>>744668029Here you go again imagining false realities and fake enemies. It would pain you to know I'm white and not the boogeyman you claim.
>>744667780What's off topic here? Everyone is having relevant or tangent discussions, you are the only schizo here. What narrow range of posts regarding this game did you desire?
>>744667872How so?
>>744667993It's still funny as fuck to think about tho.Also unrelated, but if Anya got rescued y'all think she would have kept the kid or aborted it? I know the answer sounds "obvious" but despite what retards online think, many women are legitimately against the idea of abortion even if it's a rape baby
This is me, the quick to anger guy, the day after the female crewmate told me all about her rape (I'm about to give her rapist the axe I'm holding)
>>744667757She's not ugly and no I would never respect anyone it's a subhuman thing to do.
>>744668105>I’m white>That’s why rape-Brown lol, don’t try to son me, Ramdeep. You can look like subterranean pygmy never exposed to sun, but you are spiritually brown, that’s what counts.
>>744668220>>744668082Does the comment about the locks not working from the inside or whatever not mean anything to you? Also like, Jimmy is a dick. Even pre crash, does Anya really seem like the type to go for him? She wanted Curly
>>744668236She would delete that shit in an instant, lol. The game is centered on her trying to baby trap Jim, so assuming that fails, she doesn't need the baby.
>>744668237The entire game feels like a "men bad" allegory hidden under layers of other themesYou'd think at least ONE of the other male characters would have given a shit about what happened to Anya but none of them cares at all lmao
>>744668236The fact that she approached Jimmy about it and the rejection is what prompted her suicide makes me think she wanted to keep it
>>744668237swansea didn't even like anya before they talked about the rape, iirche just didn't want to be a fuck up for daisuke
>>744656629>Seems like she told Curly that she messed around with Jimmy but didn't tell him she got knocked up.she told him and jimmy told her to kill herself
>>744668216>What narrow range of posts regarding this game did you desire?What kind of positions Daisuke would enjoy getting his tight asshole fucked in.
>>744668339are you mentally stunted? I didn't say she's ugly, the opposite
>>744668236Yeah its nice because, since they don't tell us, Anya could be going through any or all parts of the to-abort-or-not-to-abort struggle, or even not even consider abortion but have natural pregnancy anxiety (on a spaceship it's gotta be worse because of the movie Alien). There's a million reasons a woman would hesitate and struggle here and many of them are not 'grrr i hate this man i want to kill this baby!'
>>744668359Yes it means nothing because none of the context surrounding it hints at anything other than a weird design. Also why WOULD the locks on a freighter lock from the inside, retard? So they can give themselves a blinding headache when some jackass leaves something locked in a room that won't unlock from the outside?
>>744668503built for stuck-in-enclosed-space rapeThe crunch in this scenario is his pelvis cracking
>>744668514The fact that the game does the text flash bullshit clearly gives it a '"what the fuck" vibe to that question
>>744668514>the doors in a space vessel aren't designed to open at all because any opening of doors gives everyone pressure headachesWhy have doors? They do open and close. Look I agree with your premise I just don't think that particular explanation works here
>>744668359>the game is explicit about it being rape!>look inside>vague statements and vibes
>>744668236>many women are legitimately against the idea of abortion even if it's a rape babyI'm against abortion because foids shouldn't take any meaningful decision. if the father want the abortion I'm fine with it
>>744668347No geuninely I wasn't talking to you before you have the wrong guy. I don't justify rape in any way. The other dude you were speaking with may have been brown.
>>744651609rape victims are so nortubel tier
>>744668510Oh sorry I misread the context, no need to have a meltdown lmao
You rubes will never accept you can design a piece of media to have multiple interpretations using the art of omission
>>744668685Not sure why you read it that way but the doors don't lock from the inside because it would be a nightmare and a headache to have to get into a door that is locked and only unlocks from the inside, the first time some retard leaves their wallet in a cab is the last time that shit will ever lock from the inside, they would definitely pull the locks. Why do they lock from the outside? To lock up cargo when needed.
AYOOOO JIMBO THE RAPE MAN AYE AYE CAPTAIN
>>744668876is this meltdown in the room with you right now?
>>744669031If you can always unlock the door from the outside, then you can never be locked out of the room. You can't exit the room locked, because you can't exit a locked door. The only way to lock anyone out anywhere, is to not have both sides unlockable. So use keys, like locks use.
What's the deal with that one anon in this thread accusing everyone of being brown, an incel, masterbator, having a meltdown, etc?
>>744669037lmao
>>744669385Unrelated but it kinda reminds me of the first fnaf game where doors need power to stay DOWN lol
>>744669385>f you can always unlock the door from the outside, then you can never be locked out of the roomCongrats, you now understand why the line about the doors only locking and unlocking from the outside is a red herring, because locking and unlocking from the outside is the vastly superior configuration for a spaceship where an inaccessible room might be the difference between life and death
>>744669567So why do the doors only lock from one direction and how is that better than being lockable and unlockable from both sides?
>>744669561Makes sense if they're electromagnetically locked doors.
>>744667208That's the most reasonable conclusion, that he's abusive, but people are obsessed with it being rape instead of her just being a battered girlfriend. He beats her, she's pregnant, she knows he doesn't want it, she wants locks so she can protect the child. It's not rocket science. It's far from a healthy relationship but it's not rape.
>>744669561Yeah lmfao definitely some horror absurdism (hyperbolically poor design negligence from a ridiculous company, I figure. Franz Kafka's 'The Spaceship')
isn't this story basically just The Thing?
>>744669737No it really isn't.
your daily "she wasn't raped and if she was she wanted it" pajeet thread, sir
>>744669737No, in what way would it be? This is your basic haunted house murder spree with one of the alleged victims turning out to be the killer (in the pedigree of Ten Little Niggers)
>>744669795>i need rape to enjoy my mediaAnd you call others "jeets".
I was considering playing this but the discussions in this thread are scaring me away. It seems like the "game" is more of a unimportant vehicle for a short surrealist story in which a dishonest narrator(mentally unstable) experiences some mysterious mysteries involving themes of self-sabotage and dishonesty until some vague comment about 'taking responsibility" at the end gives clarity and sums everything up at the endThere's even a 40 IQ 'breakfast question' guy ITT>>744659929>>744660513
>>744669718this comes across as looking for a reason that it's *not* rape against a character that repeatedly expressed concerns about jimmy's instability, requested a lock on her door, was supposed to have been a barrier against jimmy's employment as the on-staff doctor or "doctor", and was shut down every time by curly making excuses for jimmy
>>744669891It's more of a "discussion" game desu. Chopping up the "cake" at the end is an experience though.
>>744669891>a unimportant vehicle for a short surrealist story in which a dishonest narrator(mentally unstable) experiences some mysterious mysteries involving themes of self-sabotage and dishonesty until some vague comment about 'taking responsibility" at the end gives clarity and sums everything up at the endYeah it's an honest short story, in that way. Take it or leave it, if you want, but its like a little O Henry video game, it doesn't have to be crazy you know you just to buy-in (also since you've had the 'mystery' explained to you already, none of the story twists will mean anything to you - its one of those pieces where you are meant to enjoy the changing feeling of figuring it out, you think its totally one way, then they show you something and you feel like a genius again because now you realize its something totally different, repeat 5 or 6 times, type thing)
>>744669891It looks like a video-game to you?
>>744669913You have to consider all the options and have some sense of advocacy for the accused in order to reach a proper conclusion, anything else is kangaroo court and in the accusation of rape a #metoo life destroyer the type of which makes me want to crash this spaceship into a fucking asteroid
>>744670140t. curly
>>744669658>So why do the doors only lock from one direction Because it's a spaceship and not a hotel? >and how is that better than being lockable and unlockable from both sides?Because someone would render a room inaccessible the moment they locked a room from the inside and it couldn't be unlocked from the outside, and if the interior lock can just be easily defeated by someone with a bobby pin then wtf is the lock even doing there in the first place? The lock line is literally a red herring designed as b8, stop biting on it and take the hook out of your mouth.
>>744670054>its one of those pieces where you are meant to enjoy the changing feeling of figuring it out, you think its totally one way, then they show you something and you feel like a genius again because now you realize its something totally different, repeat 5 or 6 times, type thingI feel like it's near impossible to experience media this way nowadays because of the internet. If you come across a topic related to it online, 9/10 it's gonna be a major spoilers or if you decide to look up more information about it online you're gonna get hit with spoilers as wellWhich is sad, honestly. Wish i could have known what it feels like to play games like Undertale and Omori without being exposed to their fandoms first
>>744653173>asked anything of her rapist other than more sex (yes this happened)No fucking way the pozzed writers did that.
>bending over backwards to somehow determine an obvious sexual assault as something elseYou niggas are just like Jimmy
I imagine cabin fever would be a good enough reason in years long space voyages to justify lack of locks.
>>744670229>Y-y-you're just like the le hecking game character-Lol go back to preddit
>>744670286It really is bizzare when the game is as blatant as possible with the lock line(having the evangelion effect with the music cutting out)
Reminder that this dialogue disproves the rape angle:>>744656629Still no argument against it.
>>744670243Having the room unlockable from both sides but lockable from the inside, like a private quarters would, always prevents anyone from being locked out. If it's lockable by just a button or manual hand lock that's only on the inside of the door, which you can't leave locked without the door being closed, then you can never be locked out of the room, but if someone's in the room they can lock it for privacy. I wonder what they do on aircraft characters? That's not me being facetious I wonder what the military does for mobile quarters.
>>744670317It's explicitly stated as being Pony Express being too cheap/destitute to have basic amenities
>>744670286Going by the #metoo post which I'm not sure is facetious or not it's a bunch of knuckledraggers trying to argue against fiction that rape isn't rape
>>744656189>doors not locking from the inside was to imply itThe majority of children's/teenager's rooms in homes don't have locks on the inside. Acknowledging that isn't implying they are rape survivors.>It's widely consideredthat the best games of all time are Fortnite and Minecraft and that the best food is the Big Mac. I don't really care what reddit or twitter thinks. It's not in the story. It's viral head canon.
>>744670438>Having the room unlockable from both sides but lockable from the inside, like a private quarters would, always prevents anyone from being locked outNo, it wouldn't, it means there's now a single point of failure, the key, that can be lost or forgotten. So now some jackass locked the medical bay, or his room, or the latrine, and the door needs recovered in some way that renders it unlockable anyway. Solution? The fucking things only lock from the outside, get over it, it's not a hotel.>I wonder what the military does for mobile quartersThey don't lock!
>>744670509That's quite the bad writing. It's not like the ship was made a week before while Pony Express was bankrupt, which it wasnt considering it was a manned crew among unmanned crews in a long voyage.What, Pony Express decided to remove locks to save money for some reason?
>>744670283Yeah it's tough, I really try to find more obscure media and then just dive in, because it can be very hard not to already know what's going on in a popular story by spoilers (and its also hard to decide what to read/watch/play without already knowing what its about! pain in my ass, really)I will say this game does great surrealist twists. It's first person so you don't always know who you are, and it just starts with 'whoever you are' in the pilots room figuring out how to press the big button when the red alarm is going off and people are banging for help at the door of the cabin. So you get this characterless moments where you're just rapidly responding to an emergency as a player, twist being this was Jimmy pressing the 'crash into asteroid' button in an adrenal panic, with the captain banging on the door 'don't do it! somebody help!'. Basic stuff in concept but the effect is there, I think it's a pretty cool game even if only a flash in the pan
Unrelated but why does foid horror aways have to involve sexual abuse or boil down to "men bad"?Don't think i ever saw a female writer write about cosmic horror, it's aways some true crime shit
>>744670286>>744670406>>744670596It's literally not beyond reasonable doubt, and this isn't actually a court case, it's creating writing and in real life we would perform an actual investigation and get the real facts, so don't act like a creative and willful act of omission in a creatively written fiction isn't supposed to suspend our sense of mystery and investigation. Or do your game reviews always look like police reports?
>>744670684>What, Pony Express decided to remove locks to save money for some reason?Yes among many other clownish costcutting measuresThe game repeatedly makes the case anything bad happens on board because Pony Express is a shithole and points of failure are not taken care of>Curly's history of excusing Jimmy>including pushing his employment through after flunking a psych evaluation>little in the way of medical supplies>an entire fucking cargo shipment for poor quality mouthwash
>>744670864Silly anon, men are aways guilty until they're proven innocent. Don't you know the rules?
>>744670646If they use a latch, and not a key, then you can never leave the room with it locked>They don't lock!Fairest point. Oh wait is that what she's saying they do here? I thought they were lockable from only the outside lolif not, why do they lock on the outside at all? To serve also a brig? That's not good either, that's a design to turn anyone's quarters into their prison at any time. Stupid company, of course.
>>744670842Its unrealistic to see women doing these things.
>>744651609Whats the name of this game? I see pictures of it on a lot of threads but no name is ever given
>>744670864Remember you're going to bat for Jimmy's sake every time you concern troll about whether or not Anya was rapedThough this carries the nasty implication you're projecting onto Jimmy by whining about kangaroo court against a sociopath that revels in his best friend being degloved
>>744670842Obviously because we are a tier above them. I mean I don't have to worry about being raped, generally.
>>744670842Frankenstein?
Why are so many people talking about Mouthwashing again? Did (insert popular streamer here) play the game recently or something?
>>744671161A rare exception that does not disprove the rule
>>744670286>oh my science listen and believe you heckin chuds!!!!!kill yourself
>>744671101Mouthwashing
>>744671052To write about larger than life concepts that go beyond our little daily struggles on this little planet? Yeah, that checks out
>>744671029Do you just not understand how locks work? If something is holding the door closed from the inside, whether it's a latch, or bolt, or a strong-ish guy named Molly that will only let go once he hears the room occupant say "banana," and the unlocking mechanism is misplaced or rendered unusable - you cannot get back into that room unless you destroy the door (and Molly). This is why they don't lock from the inside, because it's not an apartment or hotel room, it's a corporate freighter, they lock and unlock from the outside, probably at the Captain's discretion. And for what it's worth, the military (at least the US military) has an annoying fucking problem with soldiers and airmen bringing their own fucking locks with them and locking up barracks and other storage containers, and do you know what the #1 thing maintainers have to do is? They slag and cut locks and doors because people are stupid and lock themselves out of shit. End of discussion, no locks on the space ship, hang a sock on the door if you absolutely can't stop masturbating.
>"i'm scared for my life with jimmy who raped me, swansea... please... you gotta-"THEN DIE, WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO DO? ARREST JIMMY? I'M NOT ON THE SECURITY TEAMTHIS ISNT A MOCK TRIAL >"aReNt YoU wOrRiEd AbOuT mE?"I'M WORRIED ABOUT DAISUKE>"bUt He HaS aCcEsS tO tHe OnLy GuN"I'M GONNA GIVE HIM THE FUCKING FIRE AXEGET THE ABORTION
>>744670842An eldritch ayyy monster from outer space enslaving humanity isn't horrifying as going outside and have some man rape you because e he was just feeling like it. It's like how nobody fears monster horror anymore because we know "it's not real" and people prefer psychological horror instead
>>744671390Watch out, they're gonna reply with "erm, you're just like the game's rapist, chud"
>>744651609>TAKE RESPONSIBILITY>for the attempted murders?>NO YOU BIGOT FOR THE HECKIN SA THAT CAUSED AN UNALIVING OF A BIRTHING PERSON
>>744671107>Remember you're going to bat for Jimmy's sakeYeah it's called basic advocacy required to actually evaluate the ins and outs of the case. In real life, we would even just ask Anya if she was raped or not, to start! We don't even have the woman's testimony, who am I even supposed to just believe here? Being that we're unable to do that, and only get some outside report about a bunch of fucking dead people, it's still humanly possible to interpret this story as a mentally ill violence case and family annihilator, who just happens not to be a rapist! It's also just as likely he is! So don't go accusing a detective with limited information for noticing where a conclusion can't be fully drawn! The clues may yet still lead to either, but we can no longer investigate! Use your head!!!
vaguely brown women make me erect
>>744671418If all forms of lock are such an awful liability, why do they lock from the outside at all? Why do they want an option to lock in their shipping staff?Negligence or blunt dystopian stupidity, probably
>>744667780>Game vaguely about date rape if you squint your eyes and really want it to be>People who don't actually play games but become aware of surface level details see this interpretation and feel an urge to fire off on schizobabble rants about sexual politicsIt really is that simple to get engagement from some people
>the game quite literally shoves its themes in your face with big bold letters>zoomers think this is 10/10 psychological horror and perfect example of masterwork writingI'm genuinely ashamed and embarrassed for zoomies.
>>744671445>It's like how nobody fears monster horror anymore because we know "it's not real" and people prefer psychological horror insteadThen turn on the fucking news instead or watch a true crime documentary, ffs. I don't need fictional media to remind me that bad things happen irl (goodness gracious!!)Also, the example you gave was clearly taken from some shitty analog horror, which tells me you clearly don't know that i'm referring to WELL MADE stories of the subjectAny Lovecraft novelette mogs this shitty game and it's not even close
>>744671652Kinda like when Toby added deer rape to deltarune?
>>744671613Bro how do you even get to this point where something as simple as a lock can stun you like this? The fucking Chaldeans had locks, is this something you're learning about today in real time? They lock and unlock from the outside for simple utility, it's a spaceship, the shit is controlled from the Captain's quarters or another console. If he wants to lock all the toilet paper in a room, he can. If he wanted to lock Daisuke in his room, he can. And nobody can get from the inside, to the outside. Why? Fuck knows, it's the Captain's choice.
>>744671652>About date rapeThat's only a part of it though, which really just hammers home how secondaries tend to get very opinionated.
>>744669891Not far off. It's a walking simulator that tells an average story with above average presentation, that's pretty much it.
>>744651609Was she raped or did she just get the ick after having sex and say she was
>>744670842>>744671445Women can only self insert, you can see this from early on with the way they play with their dolls. They never diverge, it's always self insertion.
>>744667780Jimmy is a complete shithead who thinks he's owed the world and it's everyone else's fault that he doesn't have it, so of course he elicits a lot of sympathy on here.
>>744671717>Any Lovecraft novelette mogs this shitty game and it's not even closeThe key is they are not also dreamcast style lo-fi video games you can play with your keyboard and mouse. You take proven works of real art, and perform derivative simpler easier-to-digest versions in the newer pop medium, and that is all all all
>>744671772Sure, and I only ask because you used the example of manual locks being liable to permanently lock the door, anyone could do that from the outside anyways, even another insubordinate.Look man you're the expert I want to know the details!!! It's because insubordinates are bad and break their locks and do anything to lock in sometimes, right? If that's the answer, then it makes sense.
>>744671828Anya hooked up with a dangerous loser and then brilliantly decided to layer on the stress of a pregnancy to his already shit life and fragile psyche
>>744671842I never disagree with that, I'm just curious if Anya would describe her experience with him as a rape or not
>>744671961It's just risk management. If a thing can fail, consider it failed. What are the implications of the failure? In the case of a spaceship, and rooms that can no longer be entered, especially mid flight, that's an unacceptable risk. Ergo, doors don't lock from the inside.
>>744668359>Jimmy is a dick. Even pre crash, does Anya really seem like the type to go for him?You don't know many women, do you?
>>744672008Isn't it ethical to inform a man of your impregnation, they might go Michael on you and be right to do it, you know? Of course we love the sorority girls who do it quietly but maybe that's not who Anya is, like maybe she cares even. We don't even know if she wanted to abort or not or maybe she loved the idea of having a kid and he wigged out and this crash all happened before Jimmy and her were able to finish the conversation, because he was in a panic and maybe he was the type of guy who wanted to keep it to but was having Eraserhead panics, any smart guy who makes knockout cocktails is probably terrified of fetal health and fatherhood in general. Food for thought at least.
>>744672123What do you think about any of this locking from the outside business anyways? Sure sure captain gets a master key but you know the captain became infirm in the game and you do have to jump through deadly obstacles to recover it under emergency conditions, you know
Rape-lovers will go out of their way to infantilize a fictional woman in her late 20s/early 30s because "my raped waifu would NEVER like a scumbag like Jimmy".
>>744672285Who cares if it's ethical? Personally I think Jimmy was already a dark triad psycho under an inordinate amount of stress and Anya was a typical fucking retard who only thinks when her pussy throbs. They fucked with regular consent the Anya either couldn't go back into hyper sleep or she suddenly had to stop partying and it threw a wet blanket over everything, then the game happened. Swansea and Daisuke didn't deserve to get caught up in their bullshit.
>>744672513>Who cares if it's ethical?Maybe Anya! Maybe this is a romantic tragedy! You ever think about that, genius?!
>>744651609non-stop babymaking sex with anya...
Jimmy could look straight at the camera, say "I, Jimmy, raped Anya" and /v/ would somehow still argue it never happened
>>744672616Anya's packed lingerie when she heard there was going to be another guy her age besides the captain on the ship...
>>744672381If I were building the ship it would be Captain alone locks and unlocks shit, using his codes/biometrics against any control console so he never has to be in one specific spot, asking with timed locks the captain can configure (locks at night, unlocks in the morning type thing), then first mate if given access by Captain, then automatic emergency mode which unlocks everything.
>>744672647No, I wouldn't. That would be a confession critical to the case. You, however, would be likelier and likelier to lose your case the further you took this irrational, speculative, and liable for contempt course of action in court.
>>744672647Yeah except he didn't, and there's nothing to imply any rape
>>744671491basic advocacy for a guy forcefeeding an ICU patient his own leg on screenfedora tipping negated, anon has several extra chromosomes
>>744672647What do you expect? It's a bunch of dudes who have never even spoken to a woman irl.
>>744672647Maybe that's how he sees it. Maybe in his love-fueled delusion he sees Anya as a better person than she is.
>>744672647But he didn't
>>744672508This, it fucking pisses me off how the fandom of this game infantilizes her to the point of lunging at the throats of anyone who even dares to draw her wearing more revealing attire. As if women who have been raped can never ever show themselves or (the horror!) have consensual sex ever againThey're taking away her autonomy in a different way
>>744672706Yeah in this game the first mate crashed the ship and paralyzed captain and has gone Jack Merridew on us
>>744672647Plenty of reasons not to believe it was rape>dialogue between anya and curly>dialogue between jimmy and curly>dialogue between jimmy and swansea>dialogue between anya and jimmy>swansea's monologue>swansea's actions
>>744672824Oh yeah I forgot about that. So the maiming, abuse, attempted mass murder, murder, charges stand. The rape? Alright is this a trial by jury or what?
are we just pretending women don't want to be raped?
>>744667780I think the surrealistic style of game like Mouthwash has a tendency to attract these intellectual poseurs in general. Usually, these games are pretty safe though and mostly let the guys who play it indulge in sniffing their own farts.In this case the actual story ends up hitting a bit too close to home though, so they feel betrayed
>>744672647He should've raped her. Feeling wanted might've saved her life.
>>744671491A defense attorney for Jimmy IRL wouldn't do half as good a job as you are in sheer obstinance
>>744672874>Emergency mode which unlocks everything
>>744660976Because the kid deserves to not be abandoned by their own father?
>>744672978>intellectual poseursDo you really think this game can't be looked at intellectually, or that all these posts are that of posers for doing so?
>>744673035Let's be real here: most kids deserve to be thrown into a ravine
>>744673020Nice. I would like you to design my aircraft carrier
>>744672940>ok so he's a sociopath, murderer, suicidal, obsessed with avoiding consequences, all other employees but the captain dislike him or request privacy from him, was already sexually charged and showed little appreciation for boundaries in the hiring process, but RAPE????Can you only achieve orgasm if you pretend to be dumb or something
>>744673128That's bullshit, children are a reflection of their environment That being said, a child with Anya's and Jimmy's psychological genetics would be a fucking disaster so maybe it's better that it was never born.
>>744672951Yeah retards still act like women don't have any sexual deviancy in the big 2026 believe it or not. Even though the internet has shown MORE than enough examples of the contrary>Most hentai artists/animators are women>Most smut fanfiction writers are women>Most romantasy smut authors are women>Women are the biggest consumers of lesbian and noncon pornYet we're still being gaslighted into believing women are never perverts and it's only men instead. Would be funny if the double standards weren't so annoying
>>744673261Women or "women".
>>744673257>children are a reflection of their environment>world is largely a debris strewn 3rd world striver nightmare populated by amoral golemsChecks out
>>744671215I bought it on sale months ago and play it yesterday because there was another thread here yesterday
>>744673261Female perverts used to be attractive because we thought they were like male perverts, now we know they universally want to be beaten and killed
>>744673257>That being said, a child with Anya's and Jimmy's psychological genetics would be a fucking disaster so maybe it's better that it was never born.Best case scenario would be giving the kid away for adoption, that way it could probably grow into being a decent person without having to be around what would likely be an abusive, rapist dad (assuming he would even be around at all) and a mentally unstable and traumatized mom
>>744673241Not every murderer is a rapist, dude, do you even understand an investigation? I can't send the guy to Hell, he's fucking dead, he's a fucking guy on my screen. The rest is a matter of public opinion which is fine but if we're doing the real detective work it is in fact unprovable whether he raped or not, and if you're worried about Anya's banshee then consider the damage done when characterizing the tragic father of her only child as a rapist when he was merely too broken to live in this horrible world! How's that for a fucking haunting? Or shall I deploy the Ouija Satellite?
>>744673453Yeah it's just strange there seems to be a surge in popularity again but idk why
>>744673368You're not gonna tell me most of the women i cited are trannies, the math just doesn't add up
>>744673368Anon, are you seriously telling me you can't easily tell apart a fujo or some other female perv from a tranny?
Dialogue with Swansea after Anya tells him about the "rape" chronologically:>this (axe) was entrusted to me by our previous, tragically inclined leader>big res-ponsi-bility>but you know all about that, huh?Swansea decided to mock Jimmy about responsibility, not rape or any sort of abuse, then gave him the axe.Obviously the RESPONSIBLITY theme is about Jimmy, who is a psychopath, to admit he raped someone, not the RESPONSIBILITY of being a father.Jimmy needs to be a responsible rapist, that's the moral of the story.
>>744673470Just fuck them hard you idiot, fuck. What did you think, a female pervert wants to cuddle with you? If you're going to be a porn-being can you at least work towards something in real video and penetrative? Like what exactly is your relationship with human pussy? Do you not want to pound it?
>>744673554Gonna call you Curly the way you're eager for Anya to have not been raped regardless of all interactions with Jimmy being overtly negative
>>744673701lol true. So Swansea is really just yucking it up about how life-destroying responsibility is, like Swansea isn't really attacking Jimmy morally, he does seem to chaotically revel in this sick final hour like it's a revelation of what truly matters in the world. Man fighting his inner shit dies in shitstorm caused by man fighting his inner shit. Elegance itself.
>>744673615could be a streamer, idkI bought it because the same devs are making a weird looking game about tanks so I got interested in italso ngl, I got captured yesterday because people here were saying it was about rape so...>>744672616best post itt
>>744673843That's an excellent point and the true dark romantic tragedy of brotherhood and legalism that is Curly's final sentencing. It just doesn't mean Jimmy raped
>>744673843>Y-y-you're just like le hecking game character chuddy!!Called it kek
I have reason to believe many of the replies in this very thread are AI
>>744673701That dialog reads like Swansea things Jimmy is a punk for nutting in Anya and telling her to fuck off, if Swansea thought Jimmy was a dangerous rapist he probably would have just axed Jimmy, at that point Swansea was already stir crazy enough to take even a tiny excuse as reason to do something. None of the lines point to rape.
>>744656005
>>744673912>the same devs are making a weird looking game about tanks so I got interested in itOh if they announced a new game recently that would explain it. What's it called?
>>744673762Male perverts want to cuddle
>>744673997Why, in detail, with links to the posts.
>>744674031Is there a mod that replaces the tranny with him?
>>744674051You are not perverts, you are touch-starved and you can ask your heart what it would feel if I hugged you right now
>>744669795I don't know if it was explicitly rape because I don't play walking sims, but from context it seems like they fucked in a high stress situation and it may or may not have been under duress and Anya either wanted him to take responsibility, for the pregnancy or for the rape, and the dude snapped.
>>744674051After the hardcore sex, yes. Same with female perverts. Cuddles after rough fucking are kino, but i wouldn't expect a virgin to understand
>>744674103>t. AI wanting to be more 'subtle'
>>744673984sharty alarm, coal detected
>>744673762They want me to call them piggy, or break into their house, or piss on them, or they want to call me "dad". It's just too weirdor worse yet. they bait me to 'rape' them the aftermath of which can end my life depending entirely on my dick's quality. I'm 4 inches, anon.
>>744674038I don't think it has been announced recently, I have it in my wishlist by a couple of weeks or soit's called carcass clad
So if Jimmy didn't rape her, why did he crash the ship then?
>>744674301You use this shit as another fucking reason to ignore real people like you have done so your entire life - so now you can't say nobody's ever told you that
>MC is a rapistIs there any point in playing now that I know this?
>>744674426because rainbow dash told him so
>>744658192T H I SHIS(thread is fucking retarded)
>>744674196They were on their last haul together as a crew and had a party to celebrate the departure, Anya and Jimmy fucked, she got pregnant, the stress from Jimmy's regular ass life made him snap and try to blow up the ship which results in the captain being crippled and the ship taking damage, the crew is trying to cope with a suicidal annihilator first mate, everyone assumes they can just ride out the month's long journey and hopes Jimmy will keep his cool, the ship keeps breaking down in stressful ways adding to the stress, then Anya misses her period and things get even weirder socially, leading to the events of the game. Anyone taking a "rape story" away from these events is unironically turning a somewhat interesting story into a brain dead clichefest.
>>744673067I think there is a certain type of gamer that are attracted to game that gives an intellectual, vaguely horror and nihilistic vibe. Mouthwashing gives that vibe.As why they are posers, well, they aren't that smart and they aren't that ready to actually do things that challenges their beliefs.
>>744674507Mouthwashing was secretly made to showcase how insane bronies are until someone can prove me otherwise.
>>744674582I feel like you are ignoring critical information
>>744674589>nihilistic vibewhere do you see nihilism? you throw random concept around?
>>744674018As if Swansea cares about Anya like that.
>i'm pregnant>you're what? who would you->I told youNow complete Curly's sentence:A) Who would you have sex with?B) Who would you get raped by?C) Who would you rape?
>>744674490I mean you definitely spoiled a big thing by knowing this but the game is still pretty cool if you like horror games
>>744674709Not really, unless you mean the hallucinations which are just an excuse to invent critical information.
>>744674709the critical information in question: fanfic made up on social media by trannies
>>7446744261. because, being unstable already, he had total breakdown at the reality of fatherhood and everything that goes with it, or everything that goes with cancelling it, and everything that goes with both2. Consensual Sex - Anya wanted to keep it, he didn't3. Consensual Sex - He wanted to keep it, Anya didn't4. Consensual Sex - They both wanted to keep it, they both wanted to abort it, either option he couldn't live with5. Consensual Sex - They both wanted to keep it and were happy with everything but when he found out Anya told boss (out of nervous obligation to the company), he realized they were all fucked by the no-fucking rule or had a catastrophic sense of distrust and shame and legal/social accountability for this shotgun pregnancy and went apeshit6. Family annihilation as a means of redemption - take responsibility for the sin of the self by destroying the mother and the child before they can be exposed to, or complicit, in your sin. We go to Hell so they may go to HeavenAnd more, easily
>>744674692I had this thought nglmaybe the very people discussing about muh le rape here are just a bronie doing their psyops
>>744674692I thought bronies were 2dfags.
>>744674589>As why they are posers, well, they aren't that smart and they aren't that ready to actually do things that challenges their beliefs.Are you imagining leftists or something? The game is very readable by anyone who simply participates in short story narrative media for its actual fun. It's a decent little short story in video game form. Better than a fucking PS4 novel, at least.
>>744674426He was already a suicidally depressed loser before Anya let him nut in her
>>744674779D) Who would have sex with you?E) Who would rape you?
>>744660830Uh oh the “foid” is upset (it’s actually a tranny lmao)
>>744675073You cant complete a sentence by removing a word from the sentence...
>>744674779Based detective getting the real facts
>>744675073This is evidence that some people will take in information and just immediately change it without knowing it, it's like your eyes are INGSOC and don't want you to ever process a true thing
anyone of you niggas have seen the machinist?
>>744664578It’s ok xister you got raped and gaped and have no actual retort lol
>>744674426He was a loser his whole life barely skating by while his chad friend was the captain of the ship, obviously has anger issues, was guaranteed to be fired after they landed, and his one-night stand was not only also guaranteed to have no job but she was also incapable of getting a job (failed nurse school 10000 times) and was refusing to abort his kid (alimony).
>>744674779>Did he seem angry?>He just walked awaySo this is critical, this is (all memes aside) the last time Anya and Jimmy spoke before he hijacks the ship. So the whole time Jimmy is doing that, he is in his own head about what Anya says is a simple 'I told him'. There is a huge window for Jimmy to simply be going nutso of his own accord regarding pregnancy, scandal, fatherhood, and of course responsibility, and not due to any statement or belief of Anya's regarding rape
>>744674582Horror fans turn everything into rape. They need to stop thinking about rape. Not everything is implied rape.
>>744656005She forgot to use the beer to cool her forehead
>>744674582Pretty elegant summary.
>>744669891I was considering playing it but I don't even know what its called and no one ever mentions the name of it every time this thread comes up
>>744674582This also implies that Jimmy would be facing legal trouble no matter what happens, it's not like he could just do what he did to Curly and the finish the trip and go do whatever, he was going to go to prison for that. By the time Anya tells Jimmy that agreed pregnant by him, Jimmy has already lost himself to the weight of his actions, rape is likely not among them.
>>744675546Mouthwashing. You can really watch it on Youtube if you'd like, and I don't mean that as an insult to the story or the presentation, it's just choiceless enough its totally good without having to play it (and you can skip around lmao)
>>744675546Mouthwashing.
>>744672828It’s always projection with you isn’t it?
>>744675835Sorry if the truth hurts to read lil guy
>>744674191>touch starvedYou’re cock starved because you talk like a total sissy faggot lmao
What if JIMMY was the one who was raped???
>>744674582Problem with your theory is that the crew didn't know about it being the last voyage until the party (which was a birthday party, not a final voyage party) and then shortly after the party Anya tells Curly that she's pregnant. The real question is how shortly after that party was the conversation. I wanna say it was a few days but I could be wrong. You wouldn't know you were pregnant so quickly after being knocked up. You can't really be confident until at least 4-6 weeks afterward. So your timeline doesn't really add up.
>>744675982Don't worry bud there's enough hugs for everyone
>>744675959Sorry im not you, sweetie pie, keep wishing and maybe one day you’ll be not gay like me.
>>744676130Okay I googled it.The conversation happened 2 days after the party and the crash happened 6 days after the party.Sorry, anon. Try again?
>>744676070Easily. I mean if he had ANY knockout juice, as one might be liable to do at such a party, he couldn't consent. Jimmy may have been raped by a sober Anya and if they were both drinking they raped eachother.
>>744659929hadn't eaten*
>>744676143No thanks bro I don’t want to get raped ( or maybe I do?)
>>744676284come on in buddy bring it here
>>744676130And the problem with your theory is that yes, Curly and Jimmy both knew about the layoffs and Curly allowed his own birthday party to double as the farewell party, announcing the layoff at that party at Jimmy's insistence.
>>744675743>>744675731Thanks, anons
>>744676130>>744676226NTA, but blood work can tell within around a week if the person is pregnant or not, and it's space trips future.
guys, is this game like... good? I'm not familiar with the genre but I like the art style and character design, I wanna know why that guy is in bandages
>>744676424but why would you check that so soon unless a) you were trying for a kid with your partner b) were raped and scared of becoming pregnant?
>>744676618Not really. It's a walking simulator.I like it, but as a video-game it isnt good and I've never felt like replaying it at all.
You know despite everything there's also the angle of how Curly is, unfortunately and by strange tragic conceit, responsible for his own, and everyone's, suffering. At the risk of more bitching from you Mr 'don't think about anything this is only about exactly one rape!!!' around here come closing in, Curly is responsible for a lot (take responsibility applies to Curly as well, or were you so naive to think it was only about you or Jimmy? Taking responsibility is what destroyed Curly, after all. Taking responsibility for his friend Jimmy's life, taking responsibility laid on him by both Anya and the company to handle this incident in contradicting ways, taking responsibility by RUNNING INTO THE COCKPIT TO SAVE YOUR FRIEND AND EVERYONE AND LOSING YOUR BODY AND AGENCY FOR IT (theme - the cost of responsibility))
>>744676741...people of around the same age can have spontaneous casual sex without protection when locked in the same place for over half a year.
>>744676741Because someone busted a glob of loser cum directly into her womb and she wanted to see if any of it stuck to an egg?? Wtf is she supposed to do, say "I'm not interested in Jimmy despite our casual hookup so I won't do any tests to see if I'm pregnant?" Plus she was a nurse, if anyone could do the tests needed to see, it's her, and she could do them privately.
>>744676618Its neat, watch it on Youtube, there's no choices and its all neatly directed, so the player is not really necessary for any of it's enjoyment. So watch it on Youtube, that's not an insult against it, its just the same as if you watch it or play it. Nothing to do or win, its just a story game
>>744676785kek
>>744676424Again, the conversation with Curly happened 2 days after the party.It isn't possible if we're going by that anon's theory. Sorry, anon. You need a new theory.
>>744676618It's a good horror story, not the kind that scares you stiff in the moment but the kind that has you staring at the ceiling when you're trying to sleep going>shit was pretty fucked up wasn't it?but it is basically just a walking sim/light adventure game deal. It's cheap and I think worth your time to soak in the atmosphere and explore all the little details yourself but you could easily get the gist of it through youtube if you're so ill-inclined towards playing videogames as many on here are.
ANYA WAS RAPED DEAL WITH IT>in flashback months before crash, Anya expresses discomfort at having to be alone with Jimmy to do his psychological evaluation, specifically mentions that he brings up an inappropriate sexual jokeNot only does this establish that Jimmy is harassing Anya but also that she has no desire to be around him, making it unlikely any consensual encounter will occur between them>Anya acts meek and incompetent when we first meet her, but is noticeably different when alone with Curly in flashbacksAnya has obviously been abused and intimidated by Jimmy and retreats in his presence>Anya asks Curly why don't the cabin doors have locks on them. But the med bay does have locks?>the game goes out of its way to highlight the irony of Curlys reply of "for safety"Why would a woman be wanting to lock the door to her bedroom when she's trapped in a spaceship with only men???>after the crash, Anya chooses to sleep next to the motion activated pony statuesWhy would a woman want to sleep next to something that will make noise if someone tries to approach her while she sleeps?>Jimmy is intimately familiar with making a knockout cocktail and instantly thinks of it to get around Swansea> Jimmy threatens Curly by saying if he doesn't help me sweep it under the rug, Curly will look bad too since he is the captainThe implication being that if Jimmy is revealed to be a rapist, Curly will be known as the guy who let his crewmembers rape each other on his watch. This makes Curly hesitate enough to give Jimmy the chance to crash the ship.>Jimmy's final nightmare sequences never show Anya in any form (this was confirmed by the devs to be a hard rule. In the tunnel with all crew id's, Anyas is obscured)Jimmy does not consider Anya and all and his mind has a blind spot where she should be>the big theme for Jimmy is TAKE RESPONSIBILITY This is not about the aborted child. The centipede monster and the horse fetus visual show he is aware of the child.
>huh, my reckless aggressive friend jimbo just said something about the tulpar crew never being found, sinking with feet in cement, how no one survived to tell the tale>and this was just days after he heard he'll be unemployed and just minutes after got the news that anya wont abort his kid>now he said he'll take care of it and went in the cockpit>i'm sure it's nothing
>>744677454You think Curly abused Anya in the first nurse's office meeting? Interesting, hadn't thought about that. Here that makes him like a total fucking aggressive rapist. Would she really not report that to captain, though? Either way it's all plausibly deniable, is that the plan or is that the truth? This is the secret to dark romance
I hate this fear of saying no-no words like RAPE and SUICIDE is even causing us to have this debate to begin with.
>>744656607You guys are morons. Its vague on purpose for early 20s women to attach to and feel validated for because they have all had sex with a guy who didnt care about them at all.It is soft rape. Like did jimmy go in and hold her down and rape her senseless? No uh any sane person would go tell the captain, get a plan b and lock the guy up.So its vague for hook up culture whores to feel attached to. Me and this guy fucked and im pregnant but he literally does not give a fuck about me. He was so dismissive it feels like rape!! Women expect the guy they fucked to give them attention forever after. Thats what they think they are gaining from giving up their vagina.
>>744677331The party was 6 days before the crash.Anya being distressed by the news of pregnancy and telling Curly happened 1 day before the crash.Anya telling Jimmy happened the day of the crash.If you're talking about the dead pixel conversation, that was 2 days before the crash
>>744677642He didn't abuse her, but he was inappropriate and arguable sexually harassing her. And did report it to Curly, that flashback is from his perspective. Curly just laughs it off and doesn't take it seriously.
>>744677642>>744677780"I'm sexually attracted to cartoon horses" is sexual harrassement?
>>744677473he needed to TAKE RESPONSIBILITYno seriously, play the game as though you are kind of Curly in Jimmy's eyes, TAKE RESPONSIBILITY becomes both the conceit of Curly's catastrophic mismanagement, and a psychic curse to Jimmy 'admit you made a corpse of me and killed us all'. It's called SURREALISM FOLKS that's what happens when you have a SKINLESS LIMBLESS BLIND DEAF CHARACTER LEFT ONLY WITH HIS MIND that's a VENGEFUL SPIRIT sentenced only to LINGER and CURSE and REGRET get it?
>>744677752>>>/r/mgtow
>>744677701What's wrong with this debate?
>>744652121It didn't sound like any of those fuckers were In the position to care for a kid though. All broke as fuck with no free time, mainly working away from home.
>>744677923Yes retard. Purposefully bring up sexual jokes in the workplace is sexual harassment. Obviously the "it's just a joke" is just plausible deniability. He obviously wants to make her uncomfortable and move his conversations toward more sexually explicit content.
>>744677752Yes, and it also operates on all other levels through the artistic act of omissionIndetectible to rubes, it's all so elegant, really
>Anya and Jimmy have a consensual encounter.>Anya later recognizes that Jimmy is volatile, degrading, or simply much worse than she thought.>She discovers her pregnancy.>She worries about telling an unstable man who is financially cornered and already resentful of Curly.>Jimmy learns of the pregnancy, refuses to engage, and walks away.>Anya correctly anticipates that his reaction may become dangerous.>She asks Curly to keep him away.>Jimmy, facing unemployment, paternity, exposure, and his lifelong inferiority complex toward Curly, spirals into attempted mass murder.Once again, the decisions of a woman have led to tragedy
>>744677773Okay so that leaves 3 days to get tested because:6) party happens and gets impregnated5) test possible (1 day after)4) test possible (2 days after)3) test possible (3 days after)2) knows she's pregnant and tells curlyBut this doesn't align up with any blood pregnancy test because, again, that's typically about 7 days after conception when you can possibly know.So at the latest she would know would be 3 days after which isn't possible.Sorry, anon. It doesn't work. Try another theory.
>>744678119>>>/r9k/
>>744678071Its not a joke, he meant it, it was his psychological evaluation. It's a medical answer to her medical question, I thought you were a doctor. Am I clear?
>>744678142space pregnancy detectionshe says she's pregnant. she doesn't say she was raped see >>744674779 now i understand that doesn't mean she wasn't raped, but if the concern of rape was pregnancy and no pregnancy test was possible in that time period, she would say 'raped' or anything but 'pregnant' which you only say when you mean 'i'm pregnant', right?
>>744678142This also means she can't know she's pregnant from a rape that soon, retard. Try another theory :)
>>744656189A lot of doors don't lock from the inside specifically so a rapist can't lock a woman inside of a room with him and keep others out. If anything, the lack of locks on the doors is proof against a rape occurring.
>>744678164Next time your manager asks how things have been going make sure you say everything has been rocky since you picked up that crippling BBC porn habit (not s joke because you really are addicted to cuck porn). And see how well that goes over with them and HR
>>744667780There's a certain kind of pseudointellectual idpol bait, see also that lesbian robot game. You can put furry shit that tries to be serious in this category as well. Overeducated people who lack greater meaning in their lives but want to think otherwise enjoy this sort of thing. Kinda harmless overall, you've seen this sort of thing before like with French New Wave cinema.
>>744678279I never said she was raped. I never even implied it. Are you following along with the comment chain? I'm referring to that anons theory.>>744678308I never said rape nor implied it.But that's exactly the point. She can't know if she's pregnant that early therefore that other anon's theory about her getting knocked up during the birthday party can't be correct.Can you niggers read?
We Must Be Responsible Rapists - The Beautiful Masculinity of Jimmy
>>744678604Remember to rape responsibly.
>>744678142She found out 1 day before the crash, not 2.
>>744678445Then they can fucking escort me out instead of rolling their eyes in sexual nervousness and the boss let me on the ship!!! Another Curly liability, perhaps the main one, really, and we know Jimmy has sexual pony fantasies because ponies appear in his delusions!!! Besides all that though, Jimmy was set aside with a registered nurse designated to psychologically evaluate, what is he supposed to do, lie? 'No I'll take the drug test, I don't smoke crack :D' its more honest to admit you do and just hear what the doctor says! Then they let you in and you're like 'aw shit I guess crack guys are cool here' and what do you know Jimmy gets the go-ahead to do whatever! Even rape, in your theory!Either Anya is incompetent and squeamish about reporting sexual misconduct, or Anya properly reported it was 'not a problem' and either way Curly made the call. That's how the story goes.
>>744678902That's still not a week after impregnation which is still not detectable on blood test.Sorry, anon. This theory doesn't work.
>>744674779That's it. Anya raped Jimmy. It's so simple.
>>744678445That's Jimmy we're talking about. The man Jimbo.
>>744656005he's so marryable
>>744678559>She can't know if she's pregnant that earlyOne it doesn't change much if Jimmy and Anya fucked a week before the party or during it and two it's the future and she's the doctor, she can do whatever tests she wants whenever she wants. Nothing about this story implies the rape fantasy you're thirsting after, in fact the more the story gets chewed on the more it seems like Anya let a loser bust in her, then she realized she's trapped in a nightmare scenario where there's no way to opt out of the baby (no abortions on the ship) or its loser father, and she becomes increasingly resentful and paranoid of Jimmy who, being a loser in active psychosis, wants nothing to do with her anyway.
>>744651609What's the point of women when they are more fond of their rapists than the average male?
>>744678980Why does she say 'I'm pregnant' and not 'I was raped'. Why does she say 'I'm pregnant' if she doesn't know she's pregnant? What if women in stories can just know when they're pregnant?
>>744679058Bro, I'm not even on team rape. The timeline for that anon's theory just sucks and I was pointing it out.Just move on. It's a bad theory.
>>744679142To rape, of course.
>>744678980I'm not even the anon that made the theory.Another theory is:Within the 140+ days of the space voyage where two people around the same age of the opposite sex were locked in the same environment, they had casual sex.
>>744679257Whyyyyyy does she say ‘I’m pregnant’ to mean ‘I was raped’
>>744679349Made for CNC.
>>744679216>Why does she say 'I'm pregnant' and not 'I was raped'Because she already told Curly she was raped prior and Curly didn't do anything but say he was "gonna talk to Jimmy", which is kinda the whole reason Curly gets the fate he does narratively.
These threads really prove why it would be preferable to simply kill all sexless men
>>744679216Dude my whole point is that that can't be possible because an anon said earlier that anya get pregnant during the birthday party. This cannot be possible given the timeline. I'm saying his theory is dumb and bad and wrong.Christ.
>>744652121I mean, I would.
The anti-sex rule is bluntly oppressive and I say this with complete neutrality is a dystopian element of corporate lack of care for humanity and the vitality that is its life
>>744679257That theory is fine and doesn't need to rely on a specific date of fucking. It just needs Anya and Jimmy hooking up, which they did. And yes you're on team rape.
>>744679357Bad writing is why.I'm just deboonking a bad theory an anon made using the timeline. I never once mentioned rape not argued for it.
The worst thing about rape is the lack of responsibility from the rapist.
>>744679456Oh it was off screen huh? An interpretation, perhaps?
>>744679058>jimmy din do nuffin, everything would have been fine if anya just didn't make such a big deal about it!It's funny how people who defend that character so much have a habit of not realizing how fucking ghoulish they sound themselves
>>744679525The theory is wrong because it states they hooked up during the party which can happen sure but she wouldn't know she's pregnant given the short time after saying she knows she's pregnant. Therefore that theory is wrong.She could have been knocked up before though 100% but that anons theory is shit.Do you get it now?Are you brown?
>>744671295guh
>>744653173>(yes this happened)proof?
>>744679569Who cares if it's good or bad, it leaves total room to the idea it was consensual. I'm not here to audit some trannies for writing skill, fact is this story operates perfectly well as consensual sex leading into non-consensual pregnancy gone horror in one catastrophic explosion! And that's all I need
>game beats Jimmy over the head with "TAKE RESPONSIBILITY" hallucinationsyou know, like, take responsibility for the rape by like... you know, apologizing or something>Jimmy walks away from his uggo stage 5 clinger failgirl hookupyou know, like, cause he raped her and stuff. he was walking away from taking responsibility for the rape by like, you know, having to like, confront it and like, apologize or something.>Anya doesn't want to give a psych eval to the massive loser she let hit you know, cause like, he raped her and stuff. and what's worse he won't like, take responsibility, you know, for the rape, you know, by like, apologizing for the rape which is typically what rapists need to do, you know, take responsibility, you know, for the rape>Anya admits to Curly that Jimmy got her pregnantyou know, cause, like, the rape
>>744679586Sure it's an interpretation, one I can back up with multiple relevant plot and thematic points.Where's your evidence of this being a consensual encounter? Is there a single line from Anya that shows she at any point felt any positive feeling for Jimmy?
>>744679693Nobody said Jimmy didn't do anything wrong. His primary crime is workplace annihilation. I am happy to accept rape as an addition charge we just need to evaluate the facts or questions there to do so
The story can only work if the writing is badIt's a quirky cute game that only works if everyone (including anya) is completely retarded about their actions
>>744679708>The theory is wrong >*supports the theory*>Are you brown? Yep, it's malding contrarian time. I'm guessing one of the coasts on the USA just let out of school.
>>744679693Jimmy is a fucking suicidal workplace annihilator, he's already as bad as you can get you fucking maniac schizo
>>744679876Do you know that you can take struggle to take responsibility for a pregnancy produced by consensual sex? Do you know that artists sometimes use collage to suggest evocative statements that mean different things when applies to different contexts and characters within the story?
Does anyone else find it tiring to read posts longer than three sentences? You guys could use a lesson in brevity
>>744679876Yeah man I mean the whole theme of the game is that Jimmy does not even think about what he did to Anya at all. He has hallucinations about Daisuke, Swansea, Curly, and even his unborn child but Anyas face or name never comes up once. The final dialog from the Pony statue asks him "Aren't your forgetting something?" Weird. You think "Take Responsibility" might mean something like accept you did something wrong to someone?
>>744679959Comedy of character error is not bad writing by any means
>>744680090sorry ill add the fucking reddit s to my sarcasm next time you shit brown idiot
>>744680149>Jimmy does not even think about what he did to Anya at all. He has hallucinations about Daisuke, Swansea, Curly, and even his unborn child but Anyas face or name never comes up oncethis is because he didn't rape anyone, he put a baby in an ugly coworker that he's going to be welded to fit the rest of his life
>>744680194I was wondering! My first choice was to ask if you were trolling but I second guessed myself, that's a relief
>>744679972The theory specifically states they hooked up during the party and thats when she got pregnant.She wouldnt have known she was pregnant so soon as to tell curly because it's impossible.So that moment cant have been the moment that got her pregnant because she wouldn't know if she was or not.The impregnation must have happened sooner.Thus the time line of the theory makes no sense.Thus the theory sucks.And you didn't understand that.And you're brown. And I accept your concession as you had no counter argument.Better luck next time.
>>744680305>She wouldnt have known she was pregnant so soonThey print food on the spaceship, dude. This is not an obstacle, she as a space nurse had a magical space pregnancy test and she's a woman so she magically knows her own womb that crazy in literature anyways (and arguably reality in many cases).
>>744680424>allow me to make stuff up for the theory to make senseOr the theory sucks. Try another theory, bro.
If she was raped she wouldn't use undetected pregnancy as a euphemism unless she was trying to take the fall for being raped and collectively punish the crew in the process
>>744651609The entire story kind of falls apart when no guy, no matter how "bros before hoes" he is would let an unstable potential criminal walk around on the ship unsupervised, even if he is best friends with him. The devs try to play it off as the captain being overwhelmed and that is why he isn't taking action but even then it wouldn't be hard for him to just lock him in the one room with a functional lock or strap him in a pod until he comes to a conclusion on what to do. Since they know each other and the captain knows that he has pulled similar bullshit before it makes no fucking sense that he would be incapable of seeing this coming in the first place.The entire story is about how a cascade of bad choices and an unwillingness to deal with the fallout of it doomed them all to horrible fates but the only thing anyone ever talks about is how it's really about rape and how guys defend each other all the time over it while this couldn't be farther from the truth in the western world
The fact that people theory craft about this piece of shit is so funny to me. It's clearly written by a kid or extremely young adult. Could not be more pretentious and cringe if it tried
>>744680103Seriously everyone in this thread thinks they're making a 3 hour YouTube lore video. It's probably mostly AI slop but I can't be bothered to read it.
>>744680652Dude all you need is a decently structured short story to bounce off of and you've got a good time. Might not be for you but you're not much of an art participant are you
>>744680181There is zero reason why Swansea wouldn't do something about the rape after being told and already being on the edge. That would even help his plan of getting Daisuke out of the ship.There is zero reason why Swansea didn't give a fuck about Anya's rape.Zero reason why Swansea is unbothered by Anya's corpse in medical.Zero reason why Swansea gave Jimmy his axe.Zero reason why the family-oriented man whose entire speech to Jimmy was about family and now despite being flawed he can admit he is flawed unlike Jimmy, didn't mention Anya once or rape once.>oh he just didn't careWhich is completely out of character for the family man who was told by the only woman in the ship that she was raped by the guy who he already hates.It's really a poorly written game.
>>744680789You're fucking coping again, man. This is what it feels like to get buzzed and give an extra fuck about a random story that you found interesting.
>>744660165No, it is a half-decent attempt at a lenient world order where if we make the same mistakes and give in to impulses to rape, steal, kill, cheat, lie, we can still be forgiven. The only way it works is if you try to teach criminals responsibility, because the alternative is to set strict laws we all know we will all break.
>>744680915Because Jimmy didn't rape, he just couldn't take responsibility for the pregnancy, which Swansea understands because he too is a terminal fuck-up who's been trying to hide it his whole life
>it's consensual because it reinforces my worldview of womanKEK>>744681052>take responsibility for the pregnancyAnime brained moron.
>>744680915Swansea is not a family man lmao. Did you miss his whole speech about how he got sober for his family and then realized he was happier being a drunk? And then the literal first time alcohol is available on the ship (in the form of mouth wash) he immediately gives up on his sobriety?Swansea was meant to be a red herring villain, you think he's going to be the bad guy until you realize Jimmy is worse. Also Swanseas only redeeming quality is his soft spot for Daisuke. He didn't care about anything except drinking and making it so Daisuke could escape alone in the cryo tank
>>744680927No idea who you are or what it is you're even talking about haha
>>744681198You're anime brained if you can't take that sentence fragment critically without distracting yourself with anime ('Take responsibility' is the primary keyword of the entire game, it flashes directly on screen, remember?). So yes 'take responsibility for the pregnancy' here means 'don't just walk way and crash the fucking spaceship to kill everybody when I tell you we're pregnant' okaaaaaay?
>>744680915>didn't mention Anya once or rape oncehe implies he knows what jimmy did to anya right after he puts daisuke out of his misery dumbass
>>744681267Another rube pops in to complain he doesn't know why everyone's having a conversation! I refer to you as an old friend because you're all the same, believe me I've got your number, pal
>>744681451You're mentally challenged and I feel bad for you.
>>744681367It's taking responsibility for the fact he raped a woman and not crashing the fucking spaceship because he can't cope with what he has done.
By the way, you know you can read what the writer of the game thinks right?>perpetrator Does that sound like a word you'd use to describe a deadbeat father lmao
>>744681616could be either
>>744681251Yeah, but he sobered up and got the job because of his family. He wasnt as happy as he was when he was drunk 24/7 but he still made sacrifices for his kids and wife.Funny how he mentions Jimmy is a coward and selfish but never... anything else?>>744681368Yeah, this dialogue, you mean?
>>744681016and the logical consequential result of such a system is the people who do not care about rules or morality will be filtered by the system and that should allow us to collect data to predict the demographics that will continue to demonstrate the same repeated, predictable law breaking behavior. Then we can likewise pinpoint which demographics will maintain the civil laws and 'responsibility' and act according to the data and individual persons behavior and attitude. Except that doesnt happen. People make roadblocks specifically to prevent this from happening. And thus order is never achieved and we continue to facilitate intentional rule breaking, immorality, and malice which should to any logical thinker represent a failing of the system yet it is never articulated and people prefer it this way
>>744681665I don't trust trans people even with their own words. After all they can't even interpret the story of their own lives, funny things often happen when they tell an honest story from their perspective, things they didn't necessarily plan
>>744681805Okay buddy don't get ahead of yourself
>>744681813>I don't trust trans people even with their own words>trans peopleSounds like you trust their words enough, faggot
>>744681710I'm going to crash the spaceship so I never get my comeuppance makes more sense than I am going to crash the spaceship because I didn't bag up.
>>744681730Yeah my point is Swansea isn't a wholesome changes family man. He realize after he made those sacrifices for bis family that he still preferred being a drunk and was happier then. I actually love this speech. But he is the type of guy to not really do anything when you tell him a guy raped you because it's not really his business. At the point Anya tells him, he's already back to drinking and thinking he's going to die. Why would he do anything other than start being a shithead to Jimmy, which he does?
This is a fundamentally impossible discussion for this site. If Jimmy had "done right" he would have fessed up to it - no word on whether he would go to jail at all in lawless space where only corps rule. But Jimmy would still have to walk away jobless and miserable and let Curly get away with success and that's the real part 4chuds get mad about - that it should be okay to walk away and not hurt the world out of spite because you were born with less and were unluckier.But it is the truth. If are born with less, it does not justify anger more. So stop with your envy of Curly already. He did nothing wrong.
>>744681907Im not I am just explaining the continuation of the thought process you laid out
>>744681813The writer is not trans, sorry
>>744679764yes, there is
>>744681805>the people who do not care about rules or morality will be filtered by the system and that should allow us to collect data to predict the demographics thatNo. The subsequent step is to live with the world where those who cannot live up to those standards are forgiven, and we lower the standards so we can all survive in it. Eugenics was not the only wrong thing, the whole mindset behind it was. In the future, I might lose control and do a wrong. A good society would tolerate and accommodate and people like me, and even evolve to help me, not ever downgrade or exclude me on the grounds of betterment for the few who just haven't reached their limits yet (but will as well.)
>>744681973"Those who have less are justified in their anger" is explicitly a leftist thought processWhat you're seeing here is simply "rape isn't real, that's too uncomfortable so it couldn't be that, also only liberals care about it and if a liberal wrote it they would just say it and thus it would be bad art but I like the game so therefore it didn't do that and rape was made up by the CIA to control you"
>>744681973>Curly did nothing wrong.He willingly ignored the fact his friend was a complete retard and a danger to others (including himself).
>>744681971He already didn't like Jimmy and had plans on getting Daisuke out of the ship, he had justification to get rid of Jimmy, which Daisuke would surely support considering he knew it was dangerous to go in the vent but was still worried about Anya, but instead he gives Jimmy, the rapist, the only axe.Which is bad writing especially if you're saying he is a piece of shit and only cares about getting Daisuke out, and has no qualms about killing and already thinks he is going to die.
>>744682265No one is proposing eugenics youre the one jumping to that as an assumption. The subsequent step is not enough and its self evident even tho you want to pretend like its currently serving everyone's needs satisfactorily it objectively is not. I even specifically included, to respond to bleeding hearts such as yourself, the person is always evaluated on an individual basis to avoid situations such as your hypothetical where you feel entitled to forgiveness.
>>744680582>no matter how "bros before hoes" he is would let an unstable potential criminal walk around on the ship unsupervised, even if he is best friends with himYou see him as an unstable potential criminal, Curly sees him as an old buddy who needs a bit of a helping hand through some hard times. I think it's very well done, it was his responsibility to do something about it and he failed to act before it was too late, but it's hard to blame him for hesitating because he's a nice dude who wants to see the best in people and got fucking blindsided by how much of a resentful shitbag jimmy really is. Jimmy constantly bitching about how no one gives him time to think and getting laughed at by Curly when he went to get the gun really tied a nice little bow on it all.
>>744682403>"Those who have less are justified in their anger" is explicitly a leftist thought processBitterness and jealousy does not have a political aisle.
>>744651609Why the fuck does every faggy youtuber and even posters on 4chins think that the entire story is about rape? The way everyone acts in this story makes absolutely no sense if it were the case (with the exception of Jimmy). The pregnancy statement could mean that they had casual sex but I guess that the little "Oh and Jimmy is reaaaally good at mixing drinks with roofies in them" just stun locks people into thinking that its meant as a Chekhov gun of some sort that proves he rape.The story just seems to heavily lean on how incapable leaders and bad choices always end in disaster since the way more pressing part in the story is how Jimmy just straight up goes through psychosis and fucking no one, not even Curly (who supposedly knows the guy) seemingly notices, cares or tries to mend the situation until it is waaaaaay to late to stop him from fucking everything up.
>>744682545I'm not a bleeding heart, I have a short temper and narcissistic impulses from a mental illness. I support that kind of society out of self interest to ease up on my future mistakes, it's honest and not complicated.
>>744651609lol how is this gay thread still going?
>>744682056>>744681920I'm not familiar with them
>>744682435I think Swansea handing over the axe is probably just a bit contrived for the sake of the plot/game play. I think it is telling that as soon as Daisuke dies Swansea immediately tries to murder Jimmy, because he no longer has a reason not to. (You could argue Swansea would have killed Jimmy earlier but didn't want to risk Daisuke getting caught up in any chaos that would ensue)
>>744682835>i'm not familiar with them but they are a trannyRetard. in b4 >singular they
>>744681925Well its a collage of the responsibility of fatherhood with the crime of rape, using superimposition by omission. Both are true simultaneously, you get both effects from both angles. Get it?
>>744680582>>744682414>>744682560Alls be honest there's been a shitload of ship workers IRL who have raped a woman, most of them don't also have an ongoing ego crisis and would ram the ship into an iceberg after losing their jobs. Curly is just as justified in not escalating.
>>744682561Externalizing that to others doesThe stereotypical rightoid incel's political beliefs rarely extends to views on how the world should be structured for others, and when it does it shows up in shit like universal basic hookersThe entire leftist worldview from communism to social progressives is fundamentally to claim that the entirety of reality should be changed to benefit the poor and the oppressed and that the rich and oppressive must be punished both to allow for that and as divine retribution, that every single system society runs on is inherently unjust in that way and must be violently torn apart
The story is just fine. It's not this formative masterpiece but not a terrible thing either.
>>744682929I don't know anything about the creators except some of you say they're gay or whatever, and I don't care because participating in a story doesn't mean auditing the authors for retardation, it means enjoying the fucking thing for what its worth until it stops working, and I wouldn't expect some random story-frustrated /v/goer to understand that
>>744683132Yeah its just a neat little story game. Pisses people off when those sell well for 3 weeks, though.
>>744683161You cannot say you're not auditing the authors when you are initially saying they are a tranny as a baseline criticism.
>>744682993>most of them don't also have an ongoing ego crisis and would ram the ship into an iceberg after losing their jobsPilots are literally not allowed on a plane if they fail regular psych tests precisely because they are capable of killing themselves and everyone on the plane at any time for any reason, even if the chance of it happening is slim it's not 0.In a future where they have to use crews for these interstellar flights with billions worth of cargo that could potentially just vanish forever it makes no sense that they wouldn't have similar safeguards in place and that no matter what, any captain on the ship should see the immediate potential danger that Jimmy could cause and at least keep a close eye on him from then on out for no other reason than self preservation.
>>744683310I said I don't care what some tranny thinks, I was taking some shot in the dark because I don't know, and that's provable because my shot was wrong. You're going to try and pull the reverse switch on me who has spent this whole thread explaining the game for only its actual content?
>>744683573i say this in complete political neutrality but this is where the claim of 'anti-capitalism' strongly comes in - this company is surely fucked and that's not a matter of partisanship
>>744667039I fucking love this guy, I hope he does more Varn adventures
I'm surprised people give a shit if it's rape or not because we all would rape Anya.
>>744683707That still doesn't explain why Curly just blows off Jimmy so casually after he admitted to doing dumb shit. This isn't about money, this is about Curly having enough brain cells and potential knowledge to actually be a captain in the first place and wanting to LIVE. No matter how much of a pushover you are as a person, anyone should have been able to rub their brain cells together and come to the conclusion that "potential nut case + access to ship controls/controlled substances/deadly tools = BAD"
>thread genuinely went into bump limit with anons arguing if it was rape or notgod damn it
>>744684161Hence why he rushes in a few seconds later, but Jimmy was able to mentally stunlock him by telling him he will suffer as well by taking him in
>>744684161Because Curly is a middle manager stuck in the system trying to help his friend out by handwaving him in, figuring everyone deserves a chance, and it turns out Jimmy's the real deal unfit psycho! It's tragic!
>>744683939TRVKE
>>744683939>>744684283Nobody gives a shit if it was rape factually. Incels are intellectually dishonest. They just want to push the threshold for rape as high possible as revenge for MeToo making it 900% harder for their already autist asses to get a gf, and are only pretending they don't understand rape to do it.
>>744684694I don't think it's incels who are out there raping people, anon.
>you WILL work for pennies for the rest of the 21st century>you WILL never have sex>accept it chudshow do you retards think this ends?
>>744684848I guess with you threatening everyone on the internet because of being called out in a Mouthwashing thread
>>744684774They would never go out there to rape today, correct. They need the law to raise the threshold first so that what's rape today isn't, so that they can coerce girls with even less effort than today's rapists. This is why they want the world to accept the false claim that Jimmy isn't one.
>>744656005>noooo women can't like someone who is actually affectionate >noooo men can't like someone who is actually affectionateWho the fuck is out here peddling this propaganda? You see this with both genders.
>>744684848With you working for pennies for the rest of the 21st century, never having sex, and accepting it, chud.
>>744685008If incels had the nerve to coerce women at all they would not be incels.
>>744685157I'm sure there's a bottom rung of low enough that they would start trying
>>744685008How would the law being more lax lead to incels being magically capable of being coercive?If you arm Swiss people and you arm Haitians, the outcome will be different in both societies, you know?
>>744685157>>744685254>incels will NEVER rape under ANY circumstances because... they just wouldn't, okay??Top tier argument.
>>744670842r/selfawarewolves
>>744667112She's not attractive, you just fell for the off-model fanart by porn addicts
