What does /v/ think of this? They are also releasing it globally which is neat but wouldn't people get confused with context from the first game?
>>744655263*Without contextAlso if I had a nickel for everytime they remake/remaster a sequel instead of the first game, I would have two nickels. I am talking of Paper Mario 1 getting skipped over TTYD, I am still upset over that.
Damn that's big if true, I remember I tried to play this on PSP but couldn't get very far because there was no translation. Always wished I could play it, it feels like a dream. Will definitely pick it up. Is it coming to Steam in English?
>>744655709>Big if true>IfAnonhttps://youtu.be/0UOnBOOvDP8?si=6k0qo0uuTpD5Iw44Just a teaser but 100% official.
>>744655263They are playing smart, this game had three of the most popular mecha animes in the west, if anybody can break the niche is them.
Z2? Not Z? I guess I can understand why from a rights perspective but that's really disappointing
>>744656752Yeah, is weird, anons suspect is too take advantage of TTGL, code geass and Gundam wing popularity in the west.
>>744655263The game does build on its own world good enough but it's going to be weird when the Z1 crew join all at once.
>>744655263Didn't this SRW have the "units in the map are just icons" instead of fully 3d models? That would make easier to remaster it.
>>744655263100% convinced this is just going to be a fucking AI upscale.
I NEED A KING GAINAAAAAAAA
>>744657727Banned after that super cringe love confession.
>>744656752Harmony Gold strikes again
In other news, someone had the BRILLIANT idea of putting two extremely fucked up teenagers and an empty shell into a super robot that can turn into a universe threat.https://youtu.be/41_a6Uf33YA?si=OWOtEgvTz4v6-Gd9
The last uncontroversially good SRW I think. Don't remember if OG2nd came after Z2.2 and haven't tried the 3DS ones but never heard much about them.Everything I played from Z3 onwards was a fucking wet fart.
>>744657431They gave up on stuff like air-to-ground and vice-versa animations because they were deemed to bothersome, surely they'll just AI everything.
>>744658210I love the crossing pilot stuff SRW DD does. It's what I wish the mainline SRW would do
>>744658506Well, you are in luck because they finally realized that the getters and mazingers shouldn't be the only ones with "crossover combo attacks"https://youtu.be/MLHvqGRObhU?si=t2Ajwm_pqLlqtanM
>>744658506>>744658765They had it in a very limited capacity in the past but it was mostly restricted to some Alpha-series games until DD expanded upon the idea.
>>744656752Z1 had a squad system that they probably don't want to deal with. Where as Z2 is a very easy port into the new system they built for Y and future games.>>744658506I'm so sad SRW Y didn't have Wing Zero Rebellion. You had Geass and EW, and a shiny new figure to sell, it was the perfect opportunity.
>>744658765I can't believe the meme from MX became real.
>>744656752>>744657979Most of the series in Z is also in Z2, so I don't see why rights would have anything to do with it. They said they're porting Z2 to the new engine they used for Y, so the most believable reason is they didn't feel like implementing the squad system stuff in the new engine, so they skipped to Z2.
>>744659216Squad system was awful anyway. The pair-up they made up for OG was the good compromise. Even FE Awakening got it, dunno if it's still in that series.Been more than a literal decade since I last played that one.Still hoping for OG3rd.
Z1 and Z2 had cool little details with particle palettes being more or less tied to their series' style and some unique death/explosion animations.
>>744658346>and haven't tried the 3DS ones but never heard much about them.From what I've seen over the years, BX seems pretty lackluster but UX is pretty well liked.
>>744655263I'm kinda burnt out of srw after Y but let me check series...>Code geass>Zeta>Seed>CCAOH NO NO NO NO..EJECT, LET ME OOOUUT!
>>744655263>wouldn't people get confused with context from the first game?no because the Z2 world doesn't fuse with the Z1 world until Z2.2 only a few people cross over from Z1 with memories intact (Amuro and Quattro and Gainer's gang most notably)All you need to know is there are twelve Zodiac Dragon Balls and pic related is a kind respectable young man who has never raped and beaten anyone
>>744659581UX male MC has a GIRL NAME! HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
>>744659748Main story is mostly Geass and 00 with Wing, Seed/CCA/Zeta are units only
>>744659850>wirestring ninjas you nothing personalhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKj1jo2oKdM
>>744659852>Main story is mostly Geass and 00 with WingDon't forget TTGL, they had to invent a whole new continent for it.
>>744659852After 30 to Y back to back as my introductions to the series if i play that goddamn groundhog day mission one more time i will blow my head off
>>744659939don't forget two japans
>>744655263It's my favorite SRW game but mostly because of the series featured.Gameplay is pure shit: repetitive braindead garbage like all other SRW games.
>>744658765Damn I was going in disappointed with more Y but that was pretty cool
>>744659852>>744659939Damn, I remember @1 and how they somehow put all the fucking main UC gundam series (at the time) in the story while also shoving Wing in there.Then all the mooks came back for Char's retardation in 2.Felt goot mogging all those Jion plus Jupiter guise.
>>744655263Depends if its really a remaster, or actually a remake. The less they add or change the better, because their recent games have been dogshit, writing, gameplay and animation wise.
>00 TV and Wing TV can only come back because its a remakeMan Exia needs to be in more SRW games
Reminder that when her series is added to SRW, they will allow us to save her. I even can imagine how, the faggot from Guxxxxxxx shot her down because she was too crazy and in denial of her newtype nature (until death) so have amuro ray himself newtype her ass so she calms down and retreat.
>>744660534>implying anyone gives a fuck about that travesty of a show
>>744655263>Z2 remaster>Gurren Lagann>Gundam 00>Big O>Overman King Gainer>Genesis Aquarion>Early Code Geass>Macross FrontierHoly shit. This sounds stacked, and that's not even half the series. It's got me excited.
>>744660771Pokemon fans do because is literally pokemon designs in a gundam anime. No, seriously, TAKE was the character designer of it.
>>744660771Gcucks was a lot of fun. I liked it more than the previous 2 seasons probably because of the short length not out staying its welcome
>>744657979OG Macross, Southern Cross and MOSPEADA aren't in Z2, so it should be safe. Remember that HG lost their perpetual rights to all Macross stuff except for the original show in 2021.
>>744655263oh that's coo->no Z1FUCK
hope they keep the classic SD proportions and it won't be ugly as shit like all the games on PS3 and after
>>744659763I am still waiting for OG to fulfill the prophecy of Masaki turning into Asakim. Hell, they even added a subplot that Cybuster now uses some sort of "negative energy reactor" as a replacement for the waifu spirit that used to power it up and Shu specifically warns Masaki to not overuse it.
>>744661253They already lost the classic proportions by Z1
>>744661378IIRC that's leftover or cut content from the classic SRW timeline. But I always had the feeling that would go nowhere after Z and so far, so good.
>Z2>the one where you become Lelouch's best friend>the one where you can tell the black knights NOT to betray Zero and prevent the Zero Requiem>the one where after you save Lelouch's life he gets both kallen and cc during the games endingwe're back, Geassbros
>>744661628I like better when he becomes Ange's older brother, call out of her bullshit Ange's younger sister in her face and gets Heero Yui to blown the whole place up.
>>744661628it's amazing how you only need like ONE levelheaded person in the room and lelouch completely avoids having to kill himself because his whole team is full of incompetent fuckwits
>>744660874I've got the game on PSP almost right after it released. It was awesome. Pretty hard to get some of the SR points. I wish I could have finished it, but my PSP borked on me. Still, I have no desire to pick this up. Its great, but I just can't play it again.
>>744661836Geass is the best anime i've ever seen, but even I know they just wanted to move the plot as fast as possible so we could get the kino ending.
>>744660771We're only doing it for Beyond the Time RX-78-2 jumpscare and Lalah memeface
>>744662159>Beyond the Time RX-78-2 jumpscareWhich will be weird as Amuro Ray must ALWAYS be in SRW so he will see that first hand.
>>744661378It wouldn't be Masaki turning into Asakim, per Z3 it would be Masaki somehow ending up as the core pilot of Sol and dying, stopping it from rampaging ala Adobento. The Shorouga, which contains the cockpit and core regenerated Asakim as it required a pilot to act.It's a dark clone situation rather than corruption.
>>744662261>>744662159>>744661057Gcucks gsucks all the characters were unlikable shallow assholes
>>744662393Things can be different in OG.
>>744655263Very cool, but I would want to play Z1 first, so I'm afraid I'll have to pass on this.
>>744662512I sure how the Angels get more than one fucking attack this time
>>744660771Still better than Bitch from Mercury
>>744655263Where to start with this franchise?I like mecha byt there seems to be too many games.>>744655709>>744655709>744655709
>IBO>Witch>Gquuuuuxmodern gundam looks pretty shitty
>>744655263What is this series?
>>744665219Think Fire Emblem but with jap mecha.
>>744665349Literally this.A lot of famous srpgs on portables and consoles tended to look like TO/FFT, not many went the Fire Emblem/SRW way of faster gameplay with separate animation screens.
>>744664181Pick one with the series you're interested in and go from there.I only watched a bunch of Gundams, Gurren Lagann, and Evangelion when I first got into this series, and I care about Gundam a lpt more than the other two, so I picked the most recent one I could find where I was familiar with all the Gundams represented in it, which turned out to be A Portable, which is notoriously hard but thankfully has a mod called AP+ that fixes the game.
Have they confirmed an actual western release for this, or will I have to go back to importing Asian copies?
>>744657298They're rebuilding it on the SRW Y engine, which uses proper full-body map sprites in the 4 cardinal directions.
>>744667253Portable A's difficulty is somewhat overrated since its also one of the few SRWs with zero penalty to dieing so you can potentially grind. Not that I ever did. I used Daimos.
>>744664181Depends on two major factors:a) Do you know japanese or don't mind looking up guides?b) How far back do you care and can handle about playing old games when it comes to graphics and QoL?Back then I actually started with Alpha Gaiden, one of the few fan translated ones. It actually made me interested and made me watch a lot of anime featured on that one. Then I moved to other SRW games.Nowadays you got a handful of localized/translated ones, so you may prefer to pick based on series you already know and like.
>>744655263If they plan on changing the battle sprite animations or the UI itself too (SRW Y's UI is fucking disgusting from the screenshots I've seen) then it's a bust and I'm going to be extremely pissed off.I absolutely loved Z2 on the PSP and it was the last game of the franchise where the animations were top notch in spite of the hardware's limitationshttps://youtu.be/Ema3kR3DT6Qhttps://youtu.be/ihqH0T0FPjkhttps://youtu.be/_6vU04jSqTIhttps://youtu.be/xXVd4_ilo_0Even enemy mooks had different animations if they attacked something on the ground or in the air.
>>744658846The last one was actually SRW Z2-2.The Double Dancouga combo (with obligatory fist-bump finisher) between Final Dancouga and Dancouga Nova.
>>744664190G-quacks at least has great mecha designs, c/o Yamashita-san.
>>744667646No...
>>744667770This.all they need to do is as simple to just do 2 things.>redraw, or at least upscale/clean the original art assets>trace the animations from the original, not use the newer ones. specially in Getter's case which all the ones from Z3 onward look really neutered compared to this.if they can do that, we will be fine.>>744658210What, you wouldnt try to let 3 INHUMANELY unqualified youngsters to pilot a demonic sentient machine powered by the energy of evolution itself?
>>744667593>Have they confirmed an actual western release for thisYes. There's an ESRB rated teaser-trailer released by Bamco USA.
>>744667826NTA but that one doesn't count as "crossover combo attack", it must be between completely unrelated series. Also, you are wrong, the aquarions had a combo attack in Z3.
>z1 and z3 translation patch never>even in the AI era
>>744668142Not their normal selves, at least, Shinji with positive influence from hot blooded pilots is actually much more stable but Asuka is still broken bitch and Rei is still an empty shell.
>>744668190Nova and Final are completely unrelated series.Different creators and non-connected canon.And the Aquarions are connected in established canon via some official side-material, iirc.
>>744668443>Nova and Final are completely unrelated series.>Different creators and non-connected canon.Then why the fuck the two are called Dancouga (Yatte yaruze!!) if they aren't related?
>>744668190also this:>the Dynamic robots>the Nagahama romance series (combattler, Voltes, Daimos)>The Tomino Muteki's (Daitarn, Zambot, Trider)those are the only ones who regularly do combo attacks because their series are related.but now we have actual crazy stuff between series AND units that have no relation to each other at all. Just the Getter Ark and Jet Jaguar Combo alone already breaks the WTF scale + already
Surely if this sells well we'll get more remakes/ports of previous SRW games.And surely at some point they might want to try to port/remake the OG games.We might even get new OG games.And surely at some point they might even do the same for the LaGias games.Why yes, I am currently overdosing on delusional hopium thanks for asking.
>>744668734i know how it feels.... coughsdbhworldmissioncoughfuckbamcoCOUGH!
Remember how people memed MX about their fake "Crossover combo attacks" that was just two different units doing their attacks within a split screen? Now they could make a true "double voice of god" attack between Raideen and Raxpherion.
>>744668682They're part of the same IP. Nova was meant to be a complete reimaging.F.S. aka Fog Sweeper is a cameo for Fujiwara Shinobu - that's why they have the same voice actor.Intentional expy.The purple-haired sunglasses guy on Nova's board-of-investors probably is literally meant to be Gravion's Sandman as well, considering Nova is an Obari series, like Gravion.
We need a Rayearth and Getter team attack
>>744668734I want to dream that we'll get officially translated Alpha games before AG finishes their translation that they're totally still working on, and Gideon offs himself as a result.
>>744655263Z and Z2.Z3 are connected...They bring out Z2 to the west. Newbies will be clueless about its story.What the fuck where they thinking?They had a chance to bring Z1 now that it will be impossible to get legally after the PS3 store shut down....
>>744669552We need SRW L to get a remake first, so we also have high-res Iczer sprites to work with.
>>744669625>They had a chance to bring Z1 now that it will be impossible to get legally after the PS3 store shut down....Z1 was a PS2 title.Z2.1-2 were PSP titles that could only still be gotten through the PSP/PS3 incarnation of the PSN store.Z3.1-2 were PS3/Vita titles.
>>744669625>They bring out Z2 to the west. Newbies will be clueless about its story.No they won't. Z2 takes place on an entirely different world and stars an entirely different cast. It's only at Z2.2 when the prior OG units appear and the story centers around the spheres.
>>744669779Besides - SRW Y already is bringing up the Z canon.Crowe's being added as part of its latest DLC pack.And the final boss of the last DLC pack was literally babbling about being the Y-verse's The Edel.There's still two playable units left unaccounted for in the latest DLC pack releasing tomorrow.Bamco never leaves licensed series inclusions unannounced, so those are probably going to be OG units.It's unlikely they'd shove just Crowe to the front if they could also include Setsuko and Rand, so the two others are probably not Virgola Glory and Gunleon.Which leaves one very awkward conclusion for who it is: Asakim.Shurouga + a Shurouga Sin transformation, counting as two units.
>>744669216i would have sworn Reideen and Rahxephon actually have a God Voice combo in SRW SC2 for the PS2, but i cant find the footage.
Such a weird decision to remaster and translate the game that sits right in the middle of the whole Z story
>>744658346>The last uncontroversially good SRW I thinkKinda agree next to Z2.2 but still it's going to feel weird to just have THIS ONE GAME, everything is going to feel incomplete.
>>744669369I love mecha autism.
>>744658346UX is good but has extremely bullshit secrets
>>744670059They don't. But the game's FMV opening shows them using it side-by-side.
>>744670248Once you get one, it stays automatically unlocked on subsequent playthroughs though.
>>744670248>>744670407Didn't Coustwell in J demand you finish the game 4 or more times and by the time you finally got it you probably wouldn't want to play anymore?At least that game had some sort of choose-your-enemy-upgrade-ranks sort of NG+
>>744670024>Shurouga + a Shurouga Sin transformation, counting as two units.And Masaki is already in Y, things would get... awkward.
>>744670024I fucking love mecha autism.
>>744661836And the one level headed guy was fucking Wufei from Wing. WUFEI!
>>744664190the homo appeal aside IBO has a really cool concept and mech designs
>>744655263Why should I buy this if I haven't played Z1?
>>744672894Go play Z1 then, dummy.
>>744660771People liked Japanese housewife Rambo at least
>Exia is back but its just a remakeCool. At least they know they'll never surpass its Z2 animations so they're just going to redraw it in HDhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZp_sX5FKiE
>>744672894Because is better than Z1.
>Z2>after we know know just how much Z3 fucking fumbles the endingwhat's the point by now?
She shouldve just joined them proper
>Z2 remaster no one asked forWHERE IS HEWHEN'S THE REST OF PORTABLES GETTING ADDED TO OGS.
>>744678213No one cares about OG thats why its fucking dead. Even the anni didn't give you a new game, its time to let go
>>744655263Just give me custom BGM and I'll be happy.
>>744677880As if Z2 Saisei Gaoh hijack is much better
>>744668178Nice.
>>744670024I am insane or they said something among the lines that "Z originals will never go out of Z"? so Crowe getting out is something big.
>>744677912She is cute but I want the MILF! allows us to save her!
>>744670761>Didn't Coustwell in J demand you finish the game 4 or more times and by the time you finally got it you probably wouldn't want to play anymore?Coustwell is one of the regular starters in J. (And a secret unlock in OGs MD.)You're thinking of Vorlent -> Raftclans.
>>744677880What if they go full-ham FF7R and just toss Z3-2 and redo it?
>>744678697You just wanted The Insa
>>744679457They said that the Z originals were not designed to be incorporated into the current OGs canon.Basically, the line stops at SRW W/K/L.Which is why everyone is so pissed at OGs Final having been delayed into forneverness, because it was slated to put in the W cast and Valzacard.(OGs MD already covertly referred to the them existing in the OG-canon, iirc.)
I kinda get not wanting to introduce spheres and zodiacs into OG when it's already going fucking nowhere, but just make the goddamn balmar game already.
>>744659763I think you got the plot wrong though>Z2 is already a fused world, because of the events of Z1's Orguss affected this dimension as well, with the Earth having TWO Japans (geez) this time>halfway into the game the Z1 crew is transported into the Z2 world (a few antagonists like Beck from The Big O are also swept in)>the Z1 crew previously made a promise to not reveal the existence of parallel worlds>the Zambot kids kinda screw up on this part because they get all friendly with the characters of Eureka Seven, not realizing at first the Eureka Seven in Z2 (the movie) is different from the Eureka Seven in Z1 (the original anime serie)
>>744678697I thought the buildup on how the king of destruction was just one of many dudes that failed to stop the upcoming threat was pretty good. And then the threat was not an actual fucking thing, but hurrr metaphorical representation of the destructive part of a cycle
>>744680647Yeah, the angels sucked ass, how the fuck the destruction guy failed to defeat these millenals? ADOVENTO taking control and fucking them in the ass was cool, though.
>>744680647>you defeat the king of destruction>he praises the whole team while saying his sole regret was to eat a hotdog one last time
>>744681116Which pisses of Ryoma (living like you want until the last?!) which is irony because that sounds a lot like him.
>>744672894Z1 story really doesn't matter much until Z2-2 at which point Setsuko and Rand basically give you the cliff notes anyway.Also, because:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nh0S1stXKrwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ll_Sjsw7UqEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSMYc98uWIMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vV_Spdjruchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaKTaaMUOckhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_McpODdSgyshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66rpqPgbMaQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGGTf044UPIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ke3vMblBS7Qhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I320E9Kg0z4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4B9GNs_Vyghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EXFilTUikohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxJy-7NUbjwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSBTou15zNohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQEc9hjC6yshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hGqvgopIBghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzQhfrEa_5AIt has a cast to motherfucking die for.Takes everything from SRW Z that was good and kept it.Then doubled down on it.
>>744681505If anything, the Z1 story doesn't even fucking matter anymore because ji edel or whatever his name is' motive is being driven insane by the black knowledge, and then Z3 made the black knowledge a nothing burger.
>>744680639>>Z2 is already a fused world, because of the events of Z1's Orguss affected this dimension as well, with the Earth having TWO Japans (geez) this timethey're not the same superdimensional worlds til z2.2
>>744680639Cut the zambot kids some slack, they avoided some horrible "canon event".
>>744681727Correct. The Z2 world is *a* fused world, but not yet *the* fused world.That's the end state really: all universes collapsing back into one. An omniversal great crunch. That's what you're fighting to prevent in Z3-2.Z1's Zeuth just gets pulled towards, for lack of a better explanation, the gravitational center of it all, a right big quicker than the rest - because they're already tainted by The Edel and the Black Knowledge. They've become 'cursed wanderers' themselves. (A term that Asakim also fancies.)
>>744655263Everything relevant from Z1 is explained in Z2.
>>744681914Right. Butcher's human bomb event actually played out canonically in Z2, where in Z1 if you got the True Ending route - you actually prevented it.
Okay but I'm still playing SRW30 after 2 years since starting it.
>>744682282>Butcher's human bomb event actually played out canonically in Z2Then why the girl is alive in Z2?
>>744667253AP+ doesnt fix the difficulty.
>>744682103I know, I've beaten all six of the Zs
>>744682386you actually get a better view of her ass flexing during the boost-up with Y's minimal UI
Why Hibiki gets no respect? he may be the most mocked (but not hated, that is Mist) OG of all.
>>744682413because iirc Z2 played it midway: Aki survives because hers malfunctioned. Everyone else want kablooie into gaspacio.
>>744682889People can't get over how when everyone was trapped in either their biggest dreams or biggest nightmares, Hibiki's biggest nightmare is getting fendom by his waifu.
>>744682581Yes it does. Probably overcorrects in a few spots, but overall its a lot better.
>>744659852Really? Come on. I don't give a fuck about Geass, 00 or Wing.
>>744659852Really? Hell yeah. I fucking love Geass, 00 and Wing.
Kinda funny how UC's story's been getting completely skipped in favor or a whatever where amuro and char are still around. Also Yazan whom for some reason is the only bad guy survivor because he's a fighttard.
>>744685229>Also Yazan whom for some reason is the only bad guy survivor because he's a fighttard.And Jerid. Because Jerid is an uncanny survivor.Hell, he'd give Chricio Cuvie a run for his money and then some.And then there's SRW V and 'Uncle Yazan' being recruitable.
>>744683181if only they made original artwork for those scenes so we can see said femdoming. that teacher is hot.
>>744655263We've been robbed of seeing Hotblooded Super Robot Portagonists get in to a fight with each other because they've never heard of Photoshop...
>Got back into Y>Finally finished the first Macross stage and decided to buy the DLC>Turns out there is DLC for the post gameOy vey...
>>744687192more coming out tomorrow too
There's so much fucking DLC, which in turn bloats the game to an intolerable level.
>>744687278That's NG+ related, right?
>>744675941Its not
>>744687278More like coming out right now, at least on Steam I don't know about when consoles update
>>744681505>Takes everything from SRW Z that was good and kept it.-The squad system is removed -The story is vastly less interesting -Only like three of the series featured in Z2 actually mattered to the plot-Bloat out the fucking ass in a bad way because almost like not having a fucking squad system prevents-Game is like incredibly fucking easyThere's a reason why nobody gives a shit about Z2 outside the endless wanking over its cast which isn't particularly noteworthy anymore
Time for HD bullying
>>744655263They really should have done Z1. Choosing Z2 was retarded especially if they do Z2 down the pipeline then it'll just wind up confusing people who just got into the franchise via Z2>B-B-B-But the plot doesn't matterNigger, I know the plot turns t absolute shit the point is consistency because Z2 still follows up directly from Z1 the retconning doesn't actually start until Z3>>744675941>>744681505Z2 is a huge step down from Z1 on merit of not having squad system. I've never seen anyone really give any valid reason as to why its better
>>744658765too bad it's a paid expansion.
Is Z2 the one with the sol gravion clown car that has every single spirit command?
>>744688150I still don't get what she saw in mr.lies.
>>744688338That's Z1 and Z2
>>744681505Why don't bring up the fucking fact that the returning cast from Z1 is gutted? Missing units and moves that were in the previous game? Athrun is related to a fucking summon for Kira
Z2 was when the series said fuck it the gameplay doesn't matter.That said I'm super nostalgic about it so I'm absolutely playing it again.
>>744688929It still had skill points so you at least had to at minimum try. Now? even that's gone.
>>744689352wait, really? gone how? I didn't play 30 or Y yet
>>744689463There are simply no SR points in both 30 and Y, nothing takes their place
>>744689352This.>>744689352Also this.>>744688237Underrated post. They probably don't know how to make squads work in Y's engine they're using for Z2-remake. I mean, they probably do but won't bother to spend the resources.
>>744671160
>>744689545What. Why? I know most of them were just dressings in speedrunning the stage but a couple had nice conditions and were at least an objective to look after.
>>744688691>Athrun is a summon for KiraIn Z3. Not Z2.
>>744689610Based.
>>744689610This UI is horrible.
>>744689631Outside of general casualization?A possible reason was the unwillingness to balance them in a game where you can grind endlessly and where enemy levels scale based on your party top 10/20 higher levelled unitsSimilar to how none of the handled games had SR points outside of the 2 GBA OG, and those 2 were the only ones with fixed level enemies (the other handled titles used level scaling like 30 and Y do)
>>744687192That expansion pack with Ideon is only for the post-game? If so I might pick it up. Only reason I was iffy on it is cause I was worried it might bloat my current playthrough too much
>>744690132The expansion with Ideon works like the first 2 expansions so it's part of the main campaign, it's the one that released right now that's a standalone campaign you pick from the main menu (like the T expansion)If it makes you feel better you don't have to play the main game dlcs as soon as they unlock in the main campaign, they never go away and can be played in the post game
>>744689610Quite the thing to say for a guy that talks to his MS using the name of his wife.
>>744690278Thanks for the explanation. Seems I can safely leave the anniversary expansion for when I beat the main game
>>744690426still crazy to me they don't even explain that shit in the actual anime, so wufei just looks like a fucking weirdo instead
Vids started to appear, the guys with fairies.https://youtu.be/Qh4vL_WAdSw?si=a1RnHgrEp9HjHphC
>>744694000Voltes and Raideenhttps://youtu.be/pj9AdSr_SL4?si=hv0aszpd_ZSjzQMJ
>>744694095The gundam pretty boys (this one fucking SUCKS)https://youtu.be/HYyXa5MLTx8?si=_SinQ4BFDd5t7Kr4
Hypnodisc when?
>>744655263How are they going to release Z2 without Z???
>>744694271How they released TTYD without Paper Mario 1?
>>744694271Quite easily honestly
Z1 had the superior OGs and it had Zeta + Gundam Seed Destiny flawlessly intermingling along with kino like Gravion, Big O and Zambot 3It was kino as fuck. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4MsCBxrwFQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbCMWNRBPTw
Z1 still has my favorite representation of Destiny's Wings of Light and Full Weapons Combination in any SRW gamehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHIWKAq4uM4I remember its animations and moveset were stripped down as fuck in Z2.1 but at least you had kino Suzaku/Shinn interplay
>>744694447Way more engaging story and use of cast too. There's a current twitter spat at Nip twitter arhuing over how they handled GSD's portrayal of Kira and how they were too mean-spirited which man that was the opposite to how people felt back then.
What does this mean for Z3's chances of getting translated? It's incredibly polarizing right?
>>744660534>>744660771>>744661057>>744662507Gee kuu aa kuu suu was way better than pretty much every Gundam AU desu.>G Gundam49 episodes of the same shit over and over again. I'm convinced the people who think it's fun and enduring are people who've never seen an actually good MotW like literally any 50+ episode kodomo slop (or a Braves anime). Imagawa should stick to OVAs.>WingLaughable politics dressed up in UC ripoff imagery and surrounded by boy band characters. Redeemed solely by shitpost potential (when it's not being boring) and Two-Mix.>After WarGood until it completely shits the bed the instant they get to space and meanders around until it hits a lame conclusion fighting antagonists that have barely any relevance to anything going on.>SEED & DestinyActually pretty fun all around. People who hate it are mostly tryharding, it's by far one of the most genuinely fun AUs here, and better than GquuuuuX overall.>OOFucking boring and only liked by people who hold an irrational hatred for SEED in my experience. None of the characters even border on being interesting and I can't believe this has fans when it released adjacent to shows like Geass and Gurren Lagann.>AGEWould be great as a first Gundam anime.Pretty uninteresting if it's not.>IBOAmazing shitpost potential.Bad if you take it seriously.>Witch From MercuryThe first episode being 20 minutes of the most uninteresting and meaningless politics possible, followed by four minutes of a baby making explosions happen, should really indicate the quality of this show.>Gquuuuux13 episodes where every episode has something crazy happens. Characters suck and the ending sucks, but hey, that's true of most of these other shows and none of them have the first thing.
More SRWs need Cross AngeLiterally the most fun mecha show of the past decade
SRW Y has both Code Geass and Wing, it was the perfect moment to bring the Wing Zero Rebellion. Instead they do thishttps://youtu.be/p-aMtX1aMHU?si=LjNpd_ksBZNNGHPb
>>744695245Cross Ange already appeared in three games, including Y.
Gravion is back, baby!
>>744694447Agreed but Z2 still has some good stuff about it. Crowe is a great MC, the sprite work is excellent with Nu Gundam being a straight up up grade from Z1, and it was probably the last time SRW had some legit good boardinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ey5M4iCcz5Ahttps://youtu.be/qYxIVlLrRWw?t=119https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mola0_4UORE
>>744695426I don't like how the MC is actually a literal cuck subpilot.
>>744695245
>>744695464The main thing I'm looking forward to in Z2 is Uther's theme in HD
>$30what the fuck
>>744695245>More SRWs need Cross Ange>Garbage show>Garbage character>Garbage mechsAbsolute waste of space
>>744695658Is really telling how they are willing to put Cross Ange three times but completely ignore the fuck outta Franxx.
>>744695658Kino showKino characterKino mechshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yPWoJPUejQ
>>744695752>Ange was in three of the most mid SRWs in recent memory>Franxx is just too shit apparentlyRock and a hard place
>>744695905>Franxx is just too shit apparentlyFranxx is an insult too mecha, unironically propaganda dressed as anime and the japs noticed it.
>>744695343>The recolor still looks like effort was made to make it look handrail.>Abandon this entirely for the finisherHoly shit, that looks terrible.
>>744695554z2 really does have a good soundtrackhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioLLEmni6q0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEOGZMZz7uAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhDdOOtIdyohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pbFq6B5aLY
>>744696010>z2 really does have a good soundtrackhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M23NRARoRkQ
>>744695464>best mech is the basic form>upgrades or so-so, melee form is alright>Z3 upgrade is a fucking abomination
New dynamic special https://youtu.be/tQTX2ZUWScQ?si=TCqGb4-OS0i9J8dSFeaturing the son of someone who nobody expected to actually get a waifu.
>>744696145We don't talk about that one
>>744696010Oh yeah, i completely forgot about goth granny. Fate of mid tier enemies.
>>744694095Wait a minute. Did Akira get new lines for this combo?
>>744696145>>744696375It was good in Z2 but got used so much (Z3VXT30) that it became bad
Man, i can't imagine wanting to play more Y. Barely made it through, by the end i didn't fucking care at all for fighting noah brand for the hundredth time.
>>744696750Its just boring. I appreciate the fact that they added new difficulty options and level caps but they seriously need to add more challenges and mission variety or else what's the point.
>>744696536Yes.
>>744696883Gotta make terrains matter again. Improve enemy variety, they all feel the same. Have grunts with decent map attacks so your positioning matters more.It's all stuff they have done before and occasionally do during normal game play but it's so spread out. They just spam one thousand reinforcements of the same basic grunt
>>744696750>>744696883>>74469730530 and Y are too long, Persona-tier hours. Z2 was long too, but playing both is entertaining since there is enemy variety and plot, newer games just skip the plot. Nowadays you only play it for the crossover dialogue.
>>744656935>anons suspect is too take advantage of TTGL, code geass and Gundam wing popularity in the west.Fucking retarded.
>>744668142>a demonic sentient machineNu-Getter fans are so dumb.
>>744694228Sorry, not super enough.
>>744682386Who?
>>744697491I played an oldschool srw recently and less than 10 stages in you permanently kill several enemy npcs. Modern games have you fight them whole game and they all die just a fews stages before it ends.Makes you feel like there's no progressive and it's repetitive and predictable
>>744690426Wufei is just coping after his wife got plapped in battle and now he keeps coming up with headcanons instead of accepting she was just unlucky
>>744696236Man that sucks so bad compared to Z1's.
>>744694271I'm not surprised, it has the most popular mecha shows that even normalfags know about even todayZ1, not really. Back then stuff like Eureka Seven is a big pull but considering the movies and sequels and whatever stupid shit released after the main series took a big steamy dump on its legacy now the franchise is just a big embarrassment
>>744699207Z1's involved FOUR mechas, it's not fair to compare them.
>>744699341>It has the most popular mecha shows that even normalfags know about even todayNormies don't know or give a fuck about 00, TTGL, and Geass nowadays
>>744699751You have to forgive these people. They're still stuck in 2010.
>>74469975100 probably not cause it's just a generic gundam show but I still see people post TTGL and Geass clips around
>>744694563>which man that was the opposite to how people felt back then.You never had access to Japanese message boards during the heyday of Z1, just select comments from people who liked Shinn and hated Kira. Not to mention that anyone who'd defend Kira would get shutdown back then on our side of the pond.
>>744699854>>744699860Yeah Geass has never been popular in the US so I'm not sure why that gets pushed with normie fandom is more of an internet niche thing, TTGL is also more of a cult thing that's pretty much been overshadowed ironically enough by the studio it based its entire likeness on being its still loved but not normie appeal
>>744699207>>744699527MX and I think Z1 are the only ones that really tried to be like the movie. Y is more in line with what SRW normally does with FDS. If you look at games like 64, Alpha 2, A and D, you'll see what they used to form this one.
Getter and a little guyhttps://youtu.be/AsLmYeCuj5k?si=YF2uZJY-mvOjUJls
>>744700119https://youtu.be/G6wYYjjMDV8?t=133>Secret cam footage of the first footage of SRW Z>Crowd of Japanese fans clap loudly when Shinn takes down Kira>uploaded 18 years agoReally makes you think
>>744700119No one really cares about the loud western minority that hates SEED.
>>744700119There were literal boards on 2ch dedicated to hating Kira, the fact that a game mainstream game from 2008 had a section dedicated to having every MC calling him a faggot really shows there was a common sentiment among fans who watched GSD who could stand him
I just watched SEED for the first time and absolutely despised Kira. Are you telling me he's even worse in Destiny?
>>744700708>Are you telling me he's even worse in Destiny?He regresses even more as a character believe it or not but then again so does everyone
>>744700396>>744700491>>744700613I know, I was there. It's just that I'm not so naive as to think that there weren't people that disliked the way they handled the Destiny plot in Z during the days of Z1.
>>744700773And I'm not naive enough to think this changes the fact that Kira is an immensely popular character because he is in fact with the release of FREEDOM he gained new fans who now hate this >>744700613 and think its cringe how the writers were just venting their frustration on a fictional character
>>744655263>AT Votoms>King Gainer>Gravion>Code Geass>Macross Frontier>Genesis of Aquarion>Xabungle>Gurren Lagann>Gundam X>Turn A Gundam>Gundam 00>Dai-Guard>Eureka Seven>BaldiosThat's a Full Metal Panic and a Gaogaigar away from a packed house. Why are people complaining?
>>744700708>>744700753Kira developed a savior complex thanks to him having to carry the AA and failing to save Flay, Tolle and that shuttle with the little girl on it. As a result he tries extremely hard to shoulder all the burden on himself and basically shuts everyone out. Destiny doesn't really explore that aspect of him much for reasons but its something that absolutely does come up in crossovers and Freedom.
>>744700941>Why are people complaining?>Code Geass>Macross Frontier>Genesis of Aquarion>Eureka SevenThat's why
>>744700941Its the shitty E7 movie version
>>744658928Which one?
>>744701036>Eureka SevenBut this was long before those shitty movies that ruined everything were even conceive.
>>744700941People complain about them not doing Z1 firstand half of that list is on Z1
>>744679457It was something about the spheres being singularities across the multiverse. Then again Advent was in 30 and Terada is gone...
>>744701128Anon...that E7 is the shitty movie
>>744701148>and half of that list is on Z1Gutted and missing units and move sets and that version of E7 is from the shitty movie
>>744701093The "using split screens to simulate combo attacks" when in reality is just each mecha using their solo attack in a different screen, the most infamous one was Radeen and Raxpherion doing a "double god voice" attack as part of the plot which would have been awesome if it wasn't just a split screen.
>>744701128It's Pocketful of Shit movie, they told the main series' story in Z1
>>744701176Pocket Full of Rainbows is not nearly as bad as Ao or Hi Evo. Its just Peter Pan wearing Eureka Seven as a skin which is annoying that they had to use Gekkostate as a skin for a bunch of fakes but that's another story by itself.
>>744701238Ah. Yeah the split screen thing.
>>744698783Tamaki from Majestic Prince
Witch bitch got an upgrade https://youtu.be/DePGNJz75VU?si=XOOgiFKgPJB8UvMkNow can we move into Guxxxx please?
>wanting to move to the worse anime
>>744702398I WANT THE MILF!
I've always liked SRW Z1's map. Nice combined Earth setting, how the Continents are bigger/mishaped a bit due the ST Bomb
>>744658765>Bring back Royal Heartbreaker>It's on fucking Macross Delta units.
>>744660309Thr only Gundam timeliness that wasn't involved in Alpha was G Gundam/Future Century. UC, SEED, Turn A & X were there. And it made for a hilarious clusterfuck.>The fucking Titans somehow outlasted OZ, Original Zeon, Zanscare, White Fang & The Mariemaia Army.>Char can try to drop Axis or Orphan. Take a pick.
Old guy that loves money and hates women is backhttps://youtu.be/bLmxQplcvLY?si=jOQqG4GjglrX0T6XNow featuring new close ups to his face for some reason.
>>744694686It's just plain old shit and killed multi-game stories in SRW.
>>744701036Why would people complain about any of those?
>>744703589You must be new
>>744703338Will Crowe ever be free from debt?
I still think pre flight knightmares are cool as fuck mechs, that'll never change.
>>744703752Never but at least he is now free from "terrible women".>Cross Ange is in YOh no...
>>744694686People will say that Z3 on a whole was hated but in reality, Tengoku was just an underwhelming finale.
https://youtu.be/81IId5tpbAM?si=4FGSyCdmrXURUA3lI still hate how this poor guy has the worst "friends".
Super Robot Wars MS(Metal Souls)>Astro Boy 2003>Mega Man>Bubblegum Crisis OVA>Patlabor>Dominion Tank Police >Black Magic M-66>SD Gundam Force>Kikaider 2001>Cyborg 009>Cutey Honey>Metabots>Heroman>Sonic Solider Borgman>Guyferd>Tekkaman Blade
>>744704342I heard that the anime eventually reigns in the shitflinging on Izuru, but for some reason the SRWs they're in never did.
>>744704461Did they made Izuru finally shittalk back his "friends"? That was the core problem, all his "friends" shittalk him but he never shittalk them back because he is too nice which becomes extremely annoying because "true friends shittalk each other" but Izuro not doing it makes him pathetic and his "friends" complete assholes.
>>744704350Shit almost forgot >Tetsujin 28 FX>Giant Robo
>>744701030Who cares? "Oh no I'm so perfect abloo bloo" has to be one of the worst hooks for a character ever. What a stupid setting.
>>744704723Nope, the shittalking remains one-sided all game with Izuru never giving back.
>>744705009I know but you said that they may have fixed that in the anime/movie.
>>744695245>past decadeanonI regret to inform you it's from 2014
>>744705064I only said I heard, I never actually watched it.
Is this the SRW where the male VA for the MC went into the woods and never came back?
>>744705428No, that is Z3.
Tell me of the older SRW games, do they have more fun conversations and shit? Like seeing the guys from all these different series come together to sneak into the girl's bathroom while they're bathing or some shit?
>>744660771It will be fun to see mc interact with other series like all super mecha protags cheering on Shinji.You also can have multiple Char shenanigans.
I'm not embarrassed to say i enjoyed X due to Code Geass and TTGL
>>744704723>>744705009>>744705064SRW took out basically all of the slice of life moments, so the parts where the others get their turn is heavily cut down.
>>744705428>>744705447>voices the strongest most powerful mc of all fiction>immediately moves on and is never seen againHe knew he peaked
>SRW Y finally adds crossover combination attacks after many years of being missingWhy'd it take them this fucking long?
Have they ever featured Symphogear in any of these?
>>744703752Never. It's a part of him at this point.
>>744705509It's not very common to do things that aren't featured in any of the shows on the rosterSo ironically, you actually see a scenario like what you mentioned in the newest games because Majestic Prince has some guy who invites a bunch of the men in the group to watch porn with him
>>744705783Oh yeah, speaking if SRW Y, this Anniversary update is the final content update to the game, right? I haven't played since February.
>>744655263Why specifically Z2? Not just out of the Z games, but out of all the various SRWs
>>744705509Not really. The more modern a game is the more likely you will see fun crossover small slice of life scenes.But the games always had the structure of "introduce characters, small talk, fight".Older games didn't exactly have superior writing or anything. The really old ones weren't as long as VNs like it is now
>>744705785Eh, kinda, there was a spin-off of sorts called Super Heroine Chronicle and S1 Symphogear got in.https://youtu.be/rlx6mojjcYohttps://youtu.be/rPXOUPNxhXEhttps://youtu.be/kWf-EOcqffA
>>744705898it won a poll or somethingalso it's relatively difficult to actually get a legitimate copy, even if you're JapaneseIt actually adapting the plot of a bunch of mega hits can't hurt
>>744705870That seems to be the case. However, this anniversary DLC is post game and requires a clear file to access.
>>744705746Nobody sees Hibiki as "the stronger" but as a pathetic simp that is afraid of being fendom.
>>744705783Historically, the only crossover combos were Dynamic Pro ones. Y actually broke the trend.
>>744705898>Why specifically Z2?Anything other than Bamco lazy is just speculative>>744705993People keep bringing up this poll but never show proof
>>744706084>>744705783Just the previous game had the classic Combattler/Voltes combo guys
https://youtu.be/Onjfr0RuGYg?si=Qim86AS2VgM0w1RGSo this is when all the budget when.
>>744705993>also it's relatively difficult to actually get a legitimate copyThat's not true I can find some listings and it's super cheap. I guess it's just a particularly popular game
>>744706167Bamco doesn't care about you buying it used obviously. Apparently, unlike the other games, it's not on the PSN, which is the more salient factor here
>>744705993>also it's relatively difficult to actually get a legitimate copy, even if you're JapaneseThat's literally the same case with the PS2 games as well. The Alpha series would be entirely impossible to remaster due to the licensing alone
>>744689610Based
>>744706158Falls under the same bracket as Double Burning Fire/Final Dynamic Special. Something like Red 5 + Dynazenon is unheard of.
>>744705898>Why specifically Z2?
>>744706231Z1 was available on PS2 Classics until 2020. They specifically cited Z2 being on the PSP as problem they wanted to rectify on stream.
>>744706230>Apparently, unlike the other games,The only games that are on PSN are the ones that were available on PS3/Vita and beyond everything else has been delisted since 2020
According to Sunday's stream, it did the best on some poll. No, you won't get to see the stream because it was privated. Its your fault for missing it.
>>744706320>Z1 was available on PS2 Classics until 2020Yeah same with Z2. They were all delisted>They specifically cited Z2 being on the PSP as problem they wanted to rectify on stream.Z2 isn't the only PSP exclusive SRW title on the PSP retard
>>744706320>>744706335Licensing is crazy. I guess I should be thankful that the smartphone gacha game prints money(?) so bamco lets them play with their toys on console too
>>744706393>According to Sunday's stream, it did the best on some poll.Your ass
>>744706423A Portable isn't what I'd call exclusive.
>>744706423>Z2 isn't the only PSP exclusive SRW title on the PSP retardIn no universe does anyone care more about OE or AP than they do Z2.
>>744706393I have the stream downloaded, they don't show any poll on screen, they just say "we've determined this particular title was the most popular". And that's it.
Z2.1, Z2.2, Masoukishin 2 and if you really want to stretch it, OE are PSP exclusive.AP is a remake of a GBA game and MXP is a port of a PS2 game. No one is remaking MK2 without MK1 because that one actually does rely on MK1 to make complete sense and OE is a big LOL.
>Make a new title every 2 years>But remaster a game every year in-between
>>744706641Yeah no wonder Nips were calling that shit out>Z2? Nigga we want Alpha!
>>744706790>>744706641Anyone that's not living under a rock knows that Alpha will NEVER get remastered because of Giant Robo. In fact, the only Alpha game that doesnt have some sort of legal issue is Alpha 2 because it doesnt have SDF Macross or Giant Robo in it.
>>744706790SRW OG functions as the Alpha remake
>>744706972OG never actually finished Alpha's plot.
>>744707075SOON
>>744695076>IBO>Amazing shitpost potential.>Bad if you take it seriously.As someone who actually kind of likes IBO I still think it's hilarious that so many people got asshurt over the second half because it's basically just the kids making gullible and misinformed decisions over and over again and getting themselves killed, exactly like you'd expect them to in that situation
Crowe bros...Esther or Marguerite?
>>744700119This, I wasn't surprised they'd skip Z, a lot of the Japanese fans were pissed off by that entire plotline.>pick the wrong protagonist? a lot of your favorite characters will call you a piece of shit later, have fun>also the game will jump through ridiculous hoops to make Kira look as bad as possible, making him far worse than he ever was in canon
>>744705005What a unique opinion you have, you are so special
Kira the Death Eater
>>744707245>the game will jump through ridiculous hoops to make Kira look as bad as possible, making him far worse than he ever was in canonSuch as?
as an eop can i just play z2.1 when the remaster comes out
>>744707363They will dump a bunch of guys from Z1 on you midway through the game. Those guys don't do anything but you will still probably be confused regardlessPlay Z1 to avoid this. It's doesn't have a translation patch but you can use this to understand it: https://lparchive.org/Super-Robot-Wars-Z/
>>744706641What's special about this srw that it gets a remaster?
>>744707329>maintains a strict no-kill policy to the point where he will solo your entire army to prevent you from possibly killing, in canon he has no such policy>intervenes in random battles that don't pertain to him at all, rather than specifically intervening in battles involving Orb in canon>doesn't do anything at all to stop the multiple extraterrestrial threats that are killing people, despite being willing to oppose the Destroy when it was killing people in canon>game has characters who actually do intervene in every conflict they see to save lives talking down to him about doing that exact thing, like LoranIt was controversial enough that they never did that kind of story for SEED Destiny again. It's always either post-series GSD or the Archangel is friendly from the start.
>>744698783Jonah from Gundam NT's bimbo girlfriend Tamaki
>>744707285better than being brown like you
>>744707230None, I actually like the insane bitch that traumatized him.
>>744694686Z3.1 was fine enoughZ3.2 is just an absolute wet fart of a game.
>>744707612It was incredibly popular at release while also being their biggest roster yet, having series like Code Geass, Gurren Lagann, Macross Frontier and Gundam 00 when they were still popular and fresh, while also being a direct sequel that carried over almost all series from the first Z (swapping the Mazinger, Getter and Eureka 7 entries for newer ones). Also internet discussion at the time, insert outdated Avengers crossover joke here.Z3 would have a even bigger roster, but uuuuh, it's problems are a story for another time, because even if this sells well, I doubt they would want to touch those...
>>744700613Friendly reminder that all the characters here are in the wrong and Kira is vindicated later.
>>744708156Not reallyThe whole scenario isn't even about Kira, it's about both sides getting fed a bunch of fake news about what the other side is doing, and every playable character has trash talk lines with every playable character on the other route.
I wish they bring V, X, T to the PC.
>>744708720What rock have you been living under? V and X are on (SEA) Steam.
>>744709005Well I wish they were more accessible for english audience and T on steam.
Whose dick I have to suck so they add Transformers tp SRW? Hell, ONE would be perfect for its debut.
>>744671160Wufei has always been based.
>>744709005thats the problem: you just cannot buy them, and using VPNs will murder your account.you could pirate them, but at least i last time i tried, it killed my computer, forced reformatting.
>Fight OG rival in Y>Expect everyone to react to the MC's brand new attack like they do in previous titles>They don'tWHAT THE FUCK?
