>IF BUYING ISNT OWNING THEN PIRACY ISNT STEALING DURR Except it literally is. When you buy a game you buy the license to play it as long as the publisher allows. If you pirate you steal that access. You may disagree with the way things are going, but stop spouting retarded nonsense.
>>744656162He reproduces by budding, anon.
>>744656040Correct.Next question: Do I care?
>>744656040I'm getting real tired of seeing these reddit chants everywhere. Moralfagging over piracy is the most fucking embarrassing behavior ever. Just say you don't want to pay for it and move on.
nope you are wrong + jewish
Oh shit, get down /v/!
>>744656040You can't steal a license dumbassIf I steal your driver's license and drive my car, the cops will stop me all the sameAnd I don't need to steal anything to drive my car without a license, I can just do it
>>744656040Never reading your post.Never buying games.Never will stop complaining.Never contributing.Never engaging.Never intervening if a woman is raped in-front of my eyes or a racist dispute.Not my buisness.
>>744656040Is it illegal to play games on my ps2?
>>744656040That's not what stealing means though. Kike subhumans don't get to redefine basic words.
>stealing access Yeah, that's not a thing.
>>744656040>oy vey *rubs hands* OYYY VEYYY *chews foreskin* OY VEYYYY *crying*thats what you sound like.
>>744656429Just because you photocopied the KFC secret formula and left the original document there, doesn't mean you weren't stealing it.
>>744656040>When you buy a game you buy the license to play it as long as the publisher allows.Have you considered that idea is fucking stupid and facilitates endless slop?If you have to erase your past titles off the face of the earth to get people to play your new ones you deserve to go under.
except piracy was never stealing
Piracy isn't stealing and God isn't real.
>>744656334>most fucking embarrassingOver emulation is worse
>>744656040It might be stealing or it might not bePersonally I do not care, I like free shit
I'm not even going to argue whether piracy is stealing.I don't care if it is. If it's proven to be stealing, I'd just think that is funny because I think the vast majority of major corporations actually deserve to be stolen from.
>>744656526>>744656656>>744656681>>744656716>>744656756>>744657319>>744657335Holy cope losers
>>744656756Stop posting this gook slop.
>>744657335Tell that to the walmarts that closed due to inner city retards stealing
>>744657218thisstealing is a crime because assets are limited (i.e theres only one bike so if you steal a bike youre taking away a limited supply of bikes)but video games just like all digital files on computers are not limited, you can make endless copies on your hard drive and when you "pirate" a game youre not taking away someones access to the game youre merely copying it for your own use, it wouldnt be like taking away someones access to a bike it would be like merely copying the appearence and design of someones bike
>>744657436>i replied to everyone's posts>WHAT NOW?k
>>744656040You're right, but you're focusing on the wrong thing. The problem is that the two statements dont follow logically. You pay for all kinds of services you dont "own", and you'd be seen as scum if you tried to get away without paying for them. You don't "own" a haircut for example, but if you leave without paying you're a leech and have clearly done something wrong. Stealing a service is absolutely a thing, and even if you want to be a retard and say we shouldnt define such things as "stealing" i dont give a fuck. You're still a fucking asshole and a menace who deserves to be punished
>>744657471The people who run those places voted for that shit.The unironic state of video games is as such:>>744655512
What are you gonna do about it?
>game requires an internet connection to workThis is where you deserve piracy. Being made to depend on others is disgusting.
>>744657602I mean you vote in the video games industry via buying. If retards didn't consume the dei garbage for the last 15 years then it would have collapsed immediately
>>744656040>If you pirate you steal that access.From whom? Is the publisher unable to access their game? Is there one less access to the game in the world.?
SKG losted
>>744657821If you don't have the purchasing power of a publisher that vote doesn't actually matter. Don't ask what creed the publishers follow btw.
>>744657821>I mean you vote in the video games industry via buying.You're talking to Pirates...
>>744656040The important question to everyone who defends the license bullshit. Why are you such a corporate shill? What does it bring you if you defend often jewish multi-million or even billion dollar companies?
>>744656040>N-Nuh-uh!Not an argument.
>>744656040>When you buy a game you buy the license to play it as long as the publisher allowsWrong and stupid. Why do my old physical games made by defunct publishers still work? Checkmate
>>744656040>stop spouting retarded nonsense.seems to be effective when you have corpo yid shills like you whining about it here
>>744657485Potential sales are limited and that is what's being stolen.
>>744656040>Except it literally isExcept it literally isn'tStealing removes the original, meaning not only did you take something without paying, but you also prevented that item from being sold to someone elsePiracy copies the original.It's LITERALLY not theft, it's duplicationLearn definitions before you spout off a bunch of corporate-cuck bullshit like a retard
>>744657131You didn't. Is a memory of something stealing or copying? It's still electrical data.
>>744657131>IT'S MY TRADE SECRET!>ONLY ME AND MY GUILD MAY HAVE SUCH KNOWLEDGE!Abandoning this system is quite literally what launched the US into being an economic super power early in it's history.Anyone who defends the concept of legally enforceable trade secrets is demanding to regress into a stagnant market for their own benefit.
>>744658526Proven false. Not to mention you cannot count a "possible" sale as an asset.
Sneaking into a venue for which you have not paid for a ticket typically gets you kicked out, banned, fined and/or incarcerated for up to a year. It’s theft of service.
>>744658526>potential salesso I can sue woman for potentially cheating on me even if we were never in a relationship?"potentially" the moon could crash into the earth tomorrow, "potentially" you could murder someone in the future and therefore should be killed RIGHT NOW for the good of the species.Do you see how retarded your argument is now? you can't metric "potential" because every fucking game company says their games could potentially sell 50 million copies, but that's not what's going to happen in reality and it never was
>>744656040>you can't make copies of it because sky man said I have the power to tell you otherwiseMy god says you're a faggot and I should pirate all the games you like.Your 1s and 0s are my holy right.
Nobody actually thinks that piracy isn't stealing. I'm tired of these dumb bait threads.
lots of kvetching in this thread
Piracy is never prosecuted for theft, because it isn’t.Instead they get people for copyright: someone made unauthorized copies of their property.
>>744658526You have to prove that a pirated copy equals a lost sale.It's a crazy assumption that a pirate who couldn't get a pirated copy would necessarily pay for a legit cppy.
>yooo guys i saw the craziest thing outside today, there were a bunch of pigeons and they were SINGING>hey chud i saw it first! you're stealing from me! this is thought theft!! it's my intellectual property!!!!
>>744656040If piracy was stealing we could rob shitty publishers penniless.
LOL
>>744656040Rape publishershow about that?
>>744656040Stealing implies theft of a possession that i cant return, making a copy of an intangible object that can not be owned isnt theft. Check mate retard. Here's your (op) tho. Hopefully you learn what words mean in the future.
>>744656040>ACKSHUALLY YOU DIDN'T "BUY" THE GAME AND YOU DON'T "OWN" IT BECAUSE ON PAGE 8,436 OF OUR EULA WE HAVE CLEVERLY REDEFINED THE WORDS BUY AND PURCHASE TO MEAN THAT YOU ARE ONLY GRANTED A TEMPORARY USE OF A LICENSE FOR THAT PRODUCT!!!!The ultimate check against this sort of jewish, anticonsumer, legal wordplay is for the average consumer to just shrug their shoulders and say, "I don't care... I'll just pirate it instead." That's the point of the saying. No one expects that to be a watertight defense that would hold up in an equally anticonsumer court. It's more of a statement that we aren't going to jump through your hoops and play your jewish games. If you want to redefine "buy" to mean "rent", then we no longer have any moral reservations about simply taking your shit since it's not really "stealing" something that you can't "buy" in the first place.
>>744656040Piracy is not stealing, it's piracy.
Don't care, eat shit kike
>>744658526"Potential sales" aren't a thing you own, retard. They're a cope number in a spreadsheet.If I look at a $70 game, laugh, and pirate it because I was never paying that price in the first place, you lost exactly $0. You didn't have my money before and you don't have it after. Nothing was "stolen" except your imaginary yacht.
>>744656040>Except it literally is.No. It's literally and legally distinct from theft.
>>744656040Damn... this nigga really took the jewish tricks seriously. We've all heard this bullshit that you're only buying a temporary license for software, but I think most people read it with a wink and a nod, recognizing it for the sort of legal nonsense that it was. But this nigga is such a good goy that he actually BELIEVES it. That's special
Piracy is Preservation.
>>744657131>ust because you photocopied the KFC secret formulaA better comparison would be someone reverse engineering the kfc secret formula by buying their products and analyzing them and then uploading the secret formula on the net.
>>744656040Kill yourself
>>744661041Based.
>>744656040Im here to discuss video games themselves and I don't care how you acquire them, faggot. Same as I don't care if got the money for a Steam license by being a brick layer or by sucking cocks in an alley.
>>744656040Piracy isn't stealing, it's piracy. It's its own distinct crime.
>>744656040>spongebob gifKill yourself back to wherever you came from.
>>744660753It's not piracy either, it's copyright infringement.
>>744656040sure is great how about the only corporate practice this site seems to universally agree that it's bad is when they put a pride flag or a minority somewhereliterally any of the actually heinous shit they pull on a daily basis? no shortage of assholes running defense
>>744664635Almost as if the culture war was intentionally orchestrated for that exact reason.
>>744658526what about potential word of mouth? potential marketing?
Okay, I'll break it down for you, so even the biggest retard can understand it:If I make a product, I get to decide who I sell it to and under what conditions, if you don't agree to my terms you fuck off and buy something else or eat shit, I don't care. If you then go to your nanny state to try to force me to bend to your will, then you're a communist fascist. Literally as simple as that.
>>744656040That's fascinating and all, but i'm still pirating the game.
>>744665812The problem is that it's not (you) who's making the product, it's an international multi billion dollar company that employs lobbyist to influence politics to fuck people like (you) over.
>When you buy a game you buy the license to play it as long as the publisher allowsIt is immoral for them to take my money, and then take my game back for no reason other than "you have to buy the sequel, goyim". You are acting entitled to my money, while restricting access to the game I paid. Your gay legalities mean nothing to me, since copyright law is a sham to begin with. You should be thankful I paid you to begin with, you ungrateful piece of shit.
>>744665812>c-commie!>nanny stateI know what you are.
>>744665812>If you then go to your nanny state to try to force me to bend to your will, then you're a communist fascist. You are literally going to the nanny state to force people to bend to your will. That is the entire purpose of copyright. You are KFC, trying to argue that SWAT teams should break everyone's doors down and shoot their families for putting tabasco sauce on their chicken, because tabasco on chicken is a registered trademark of KFC.
>>744665812>>744666352>>744667543>>744667716The lack of responses is deafening.
>>744656040>oi! you got a digital loicense for that game mate?
>>744665812>if you don't agree to my terms you fuck off and buy something else or eat shit,You forgot Option C: I pirate your shit for free lol
Why do you care about the reasons other people pirate and the mental gymnastics they may or may not perform to convince themselves it's okay or justified?
>how dare you refuse to give the multibillion dollar megacorporation run by psychopaths your 60 dollars?!
When they are sending shills they aren't sending their best.
>>744668989>anybody that disagrees with me is a shill schizo
>>744669372shill
>>744656040Ok it's stealing, I don't care nigger
>>744669372Remember that time when SKG was right on the turnaround and suddenly all the threads got spammed with cp? Mere coincidence, huh?
>>744656040>Except it literally isLiterally isn't. First and foremost since """piracy""" isn't stealing.
piracy might be stealing but stealing from evil companies is morally alright so fuck you
>>744656040>>Except it literally is. When you buy a game you buy the license to play it as long as the publisher allows.I live in a first world country, if you don't have that front and centre on the store page where it is impossible to miss then you are guilty of false advertising and misleading consumers which is a greater crime than piracy.The worship of corporations is embarrassing.
>>744656040Piracy never was stealing. The publisher still has its copy.The only ones stealing are publishers, who take from the public domain without giving anything back
>>744670095This. I don't care about doing bad things if you deserve it.
Am I supposed to care. I steal because I want to do so Stealing from evil people is a good deed. Cry about it, faggot.
>>744656040People act so edgy pirating shit online when it’s literally just a copyright crime that is pretty much never actually enforced. Imagine what it would be like if internet piracy was treated like actual theft and the cops or FBI showed up at people’s houses. Le epic gamers would shit their pants.
>>744656040You don't seem to understand what that phrase actually means.
>outdated normalfag meme >used wrong >pro-corpo I am noticing again.
>>744670821Stop being anti-semetic!
>>744656040It legally isn’t tho. At least the US doesn’t consider it actual theft since nobody is deprived of property. It’s an illegal reproduction of copyrighted material like reprinting a book without publishing rights to it.
The modern AAA game industry is evil therefore pirating is morally correct.
I pirated it because is free, simple as that
I always look at the staff photos before I buy a game
>>744670669You are so incredibly innocent it is adorable. Never go to a big city in any western country.
licensing is an agreement between two parties where the licensor pays the licensee.for example,Nintendo licenses one of their game franchises to a third party development studio, contracting that studio to develop a game using Nintendo's IP.In this situation, Nintendo is the licensor.The third party studio is the licensee.licensing isn't a consumer purchasing access to the files they downloaded and are currently stored on their own harddrive after a transition of monetary value, which is what a regular purchase is.there is a very sad and bad conspiratorial reason for why law is not part of general education.be more than a GED, OP.Alternatively, move to Israel to avoid extradition.
>>744656040It's not even about buying. It's literally your moral duty to pirate now that modern games are being made with AI
>>744658526A potential sale for a 30 year old game that's no longer for sale on any market except resellers, to which not a cent will go to the original developer or publisher?
>>744656040I am starting to notice this pattern that we all know monopolies play around with products or services and give this take of digital "ownership" whether it is a live/animated series or film, a game etc. And piracy is becoming a more prevalent topic and agreeable and was wondering what is the perspective of Communists regardingpiracy, what do they think about it and does it fit well with communism, in my opinion I feel it is an option when capitalism in its crony roots, how there has been an intellectual property to creations that are often put into hard work. They have an implicit understanding of the contradiction between their interests and those of the big bourgeoisie. The petit bourgeois is a precarious class, one who are faced with constantly rising entry barriers to becoming bourgeois at all, falling rates of profit that squeeze them harder because they have less capacity to make up for it in volume of production, and in many industries, laws that negatively impact their business because they're written for the big bourgeoisie. So if you're a self-proclaimed "scrappy entrepreneur" who just wants their "fair shot" at making it in the capitalist world, it makes sense to lower your entry barriers by pirating books on the things you think you'll need to know for your business, and software for running your operation. That's one facet of it. Another is the consumerist lifestyle. If you can't afford market prices for media but think you're entitled to it anyway because of your class position and the lifestyle you believe it should support, pirating it is the alternative. I support bypassing the capitalist social relation to directly appropriate what you need (or what you want), but it's a tactic with potential revolutionary uses rather than something that's inherently revolutionary. Capitalism has a built-in capacity to absorb many types of losses, including theft.
>>744656209please stop posting antisemitism like your pic related.thank you
Piracy isn't theft.It's IP infringement.Even though Intellectual Property has 'Property' in the name, it is not generic property.You can't actually streal a video game or movie, because they're not a phiscal thing, they're information.Can copy information without permission; you can't steal it, because stealing implies taking something away, nobody has lost the information.
>>744665812>communist fascist.im begging you people to learn words
>>744656040>yOU mAy dIsAgrEE wIth thE wAy thIngs ArE gOIng, bUt stOp spOUtIng rEtArdEd nOnsEnsEI'm sure this thread sounded better in your head.
