>>744669457
ranis is my morrowind wife

Literally who

>>744669457
I only joined for the chest stop bothering me.

Have you people tried N'Garde?

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Installing Morrowind Mods feels like...

>>744671047
I was on the cusp but I feel like it changes the game too much. What's weird is how there is still not one good animation pack for unsheathed weapons characters. The restrictions the original engine had for animations should be no issue in OpenMW.

>>744669457
the first time I modded Morrowind a lot she was disgustingly HOT and I loved her. Now I don't give a fuck, I play with vanilla friendly heads and haven't decided which Dunmer girl I like most

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>everyone hating on Hlaalu
>realize that it's probably the house I joined the most
And the reason is mostly gameplay (like playing these rogue-type characters), but then there is also the Camonna Tong connection... Wish you could join these guys.

>>744671047
didnt like it desu
I am always playing on 100% with mods that increase difficulty and it was too annoying.

>>744671416
Aren't the Hlaalu secretly against outlanders and just biding their time before genocideing everyone? Or is that because the Camonna Tong has them by the balls and in reality they're outlander loving woke faggots?

I wonder if Trainwiz will show up and talk lore

>>744671047
i dont like mods that change the game's systems

I’m enjoying my spell sword Telvanni play though on my new Steam Deck
Extremely comfy
Taking some time away from Morrowind and hitting Anvil up for some culture difference
What’s the latest on project Cizzle
How long until the next release?

I don't know what any of the quests were about

>>744671594
In TR yes, not in base game

>>744671704
Wow i knew from trying it 19 years ago that TR was filled with fanfiction retardation and I see that hasn't changed

>>744671704
I don't remember their lore and I'm trying TR after way too many years of not touching it, so far I have only done a couple quests in Old Ebonheart namely with the painter that you need to get skooma for and with an Argonian whos trying to flee there. I haven't noticed much else about it other than obvious giveaways like new NPCs that are there just to offer tips for and or transportation to the mainland. I'm leaving the TR stuff for after finishing the main quest

>>744671704
>>744671803
Awkward samefagging.
>>744671594
Depends on the councilor. Orvas Dren wants outlanders dead to the point he'll ally with Dagoth Ur and he runs half the house behind the scenes. Clearly someone like Curio is a more cosmopolitan type.

>>744671803
>fanfiction retardation
The ESO general is in /vg/

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So what mods are you Anons using? I'm playing with the starter pack mod list plus some choices of my own

>>744673703
>General Performance:
Patch for Purists/Official Plugins Patch
Optimization Patch/Project Atlas
Greenmote Groundcover

>Gameplay:
Expansion Delay
Graphic Herbalism
Weapon Poisoning
Lord Birthsign Improved


>Visuals:
Familiar Faces
Glow in the Dahrk
Weapon Sheathing
Simply Walking Weapon Sheathing Edition
No Enchant Glow
Some minor armor/weapon visual tweaks tweaks (like sharper axes)

It's not far from vanilla honestly

>>744671501
Late 90s/00s Mobius likes fantasy Is the greatest

>>744674306
Pretty much what I use too but I decided to try some big packs and see what it is all about.

Honestly?
Graphics Overhaul,Just Beautiful Morrowind,Just Good Morrowind all sucked MAJOR ass for various reasons. Might as well play Oblivion at this point.

The starter pack though, It's fucking great. I heart vanilla-directo's cut are both basically what you play yourself so they are also great.

I'm only mentioning openmw lists because I don't like MGEXE, I've used it for years and never managed to make Morrowind look and run as good as OpenMW. It either looks ass or runs at 40 fps in my experience.

>>744675175
I aim for 60fps but I still get short drops to 56fps in weird outdoors areas (maybe it's the NPCs idk).
OpenMW might be a bit better than MGEXE but it's far from optimized and Morrowind's assets are also not very optimized.
Looking upwards through a waterfall for example tanks fps even though realistically you rarely do it.
Try this:
https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/59700
Even disregarding occlusion culling for draw distance the soft shadow shaders just look and run better.

>>744673703
Just the I Heart Vanilla modlist, Stormrider and Perfect Placement.

>>744676119
Nice, thanks! I'll give it a go later. As it is right now I'm only experiencing frame drops in TR cities. Nowhere in the base game and the expansions

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1000 gold for each

>>744669995
Make sure to use the move npc command to bring her to your home and make her a stay at home wife

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>>744672048
He's not wrong.

>>744679049
>Some people hate TR for adding no content
>Some people hate TR for adding too much content
So which is which?

>>744669457
Everytime I play Morrowind I do the first Mage quest, then steal all the soul gems, then sell them to the creeper.

>>744681170
I buy the broken glass daggers and repair them because I'm a good boy

>>744679049
Correct on most accounts, I'd be willing to forgive all of these if it weren't for the awful quirky chungus dialogue that sticks out like a sore thumb. Most of the dialogue is pretty good but when it's bad, it's really bad.

>>744681096
How about limiting themselves to adding new cities and exploring all that instead of going back and fucking with the main quest, reworking Tribunal and adding a new epilogue to the game? Even the Nerevar bonewalker in Necrom reads like fanfic. Feels like the devs have been showered with nothing but toxic positivity since 2018 from e-celebs and reddit for so long they're genuinely beginning to believe all they add to Morrowind is canon and they're now taking stances on established stuff.

>>744681565
>awful quirky chungus dialogue
give specific examples

>>744679049
>hlaalu are merchants
>therefore they shouldn't be slave trading
gunna go out on a limb here and say that this is your own post you capped here

>>744676785
The most controversial bit of Morrowind lore...

>>744679049
Narsis feels like fanfic, too. Sorry but if Morrowind establishes Vivec to be one of the biggest and most important cities in the East, a city created for and ruled by one of your country's living gods, you cannot make then make the Hlaalu capital mog it. Being able to doesn't mean that you should do it.

>>744682180
Every single Hlaalu town and house shouldn't have 10 slaves in it, no. If Tamriel Rebuilt had made Balmora, there'd be a slave market next to Caius' house and the Hlaalu Council Manor would be full of Khajiit and Argonian slaves.

>>744681794
>>744682225
I think TR content should be experienced after completing the base game. The new NPCs that spawn in order to offer a gateway to mainland aren't jarring but exploring the mainland early really does break the immersion.

After visiting a couple cities, even though they were cool and had nice quests and stuff I felt I had taken a portal into another game so I went back to Vvardenfell. TR isn't bad but since it feels like Morrowind II I'll play it after my run is complete in the base game. I'll just keep it installed for later

>>744682512
Narsis having its slave market right at the entrance on the purple road is so stupid. Very good impression to make on the merchants coming from Cyrodiil.

>>744671416
I joined them most because their mansion isn't AIDs to get to. No I don't want to mark it, I have important places to mark.

>>744679049
The paintings always stood out to me, yeah. Have them on Cyrodiil or High Rock but there's zero paintings in Vvanderfell, why would the mainline be filled with them outside of a technical flex.

>>744682225
>>744682521
Narsis is the Hlaalu equivalent of Ald'Ruhn for Redoran
why shouldn't it be big?
the problem is that vanilla vivec is cucked and tiny

>>744679049
>Wahhhh! It's not exactly how I want it, so it sucks!!!
Nice post faggot

>>744683209
>vanilla vivec is cucked and tiny
it wasn't for 2002 standards

>>744682710
Naris is located closest to scaly-farm-animal country.
They are gonna sell farm equipment

>>744683259
>It's not exactly how I want it, so it sucks
Post where he said that.

>>744683321
Yes it was, and dont hit me with that bullshit revisionism.
The dev team was forced to make it WORSE than what they wanted even then, because the netimmerse engine and hardware couldn't handle it.
Vivec was envisioned as open air like Ald'ruhn, which is why the interior of the upper level has all those houses in awkward domes.
As it is the exterior is spacious but lifeless

Vivec was the ORIGINAL bethesda problem of cucked cities that are too small.
The one they never ever managed to deal with, despite making an attempt in oblivion

>>744683329
Not what I said. Try entering Narsis from the Purple Road, the slave market will be one of the first buildings in view. The Hlaalu are supposed to be clever merchants, right? The Imperials are appalled by slavery so it would be good for business to keep that kind of thing tucked away, or at least not the first thing they see when they enter the city.

>>744683712
>appalled by slavery
fucking tourists lmao
The East Empire Trading company has zero issues with profitable business, just like any corporation, and the vast majority of all imperial traders see it no differently.
The Hlaalu plantations rely HEAVILY on slavery and yet they are the ones seeing the most trade with the empire.
Shut the fuck up with your fanfiction.

>>744683550
>the netimmerse engine and hardware couldn't handle it.
2002 limitations which everyone had to stomach. Given that, Vivec is fine. Unless you know a way they could've made it with those limitations in place. Why are you complaining about something that wasn't possible 24 years ago? Do we complain about the stupid Greeks not taking frigates with turrets and missiles to Troy? No.

>>744684186
>retard has shifted the argument entirely
nobody said they should have made it better dumbass.
Nobody is complaining that it wasnt possible.
The state of the city of Vivec, regardless of what was possible, is that of a cucked and shrunken city compared to what it is supposed to be and what the devs originally hoped they could pull off.

Now stop bitching that OTHER cities get to be bigger like they SHOULD be.

>>744684150
lmao nigga you are so fucking stupid. Is every merchant who comes in through the Purple Road going to be with the EEC? Maybe play the fucking game, maybe read the Imperial Newspaper in PC, maybe talk to the imperial NPCs in Narsis. This blind, retarded defense of the bad aspects of TR is so strange to me. Just because it's free doesn't mean you're supposed to gaslight yourself into thinking it's flawless. You don't owe the troon devs anything

>>744684496
you seem upset anon, are you sure you're not the one complaining? relax bitch

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>>744684496
>retarded tourist continues to insist his fanfiction is real
>Too retarded to read
"The East Empire Trading company has zero issues with profitable business, just like any corporation, and the vast majority of all imperial traders see it no differently."
>properly
Slavery is condoned and accepted by the empire by LAW.
As far as the dark elves are concerned in Morrowind, seeing humans as PEOPLE is a novel idea.
The Hlaalu are being "clever merchants" by avoiding keeping HUMAN slaves, tourist.
THAT is how they avoid offending imperial merchants.
And it works just fine for them.

Now fuck off and go be a retarded tourist someplace else.

>>744683550
>hardware couldn't handle it
So as anon said, 2002 standards.

>>744685117
if you can't read don't butt in

>>744671704
This is all in the base game you retard.

>>744684150
The Empires wants to try and make business/imperialize Morrowind in any way they can, be it through their legion, cult or working with the one House that works with them. Doesn't mean they're okay with everything Hlaalu stands for, and that's stated time and again in the basegame.
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Generic_Dialogue_S
>"Slavery is protected by law in Morrowind. Slavery is illegal throughout the Empire, and considered barbaric. Slavery had disappeared in Sumerset Isles and Valenwood long before their incorporation into the Empire. Most Imperial citizens assume the practice will die out as Morrowind adopts Imperial ways, and the subject excites little passion except among Argonian and Khajiit abolitionists, outraged that the Empire does little to suppress persistent illegal cross-border slave raiding in southern Morrowind"

>>744685780
>Doesn't mean they're okay with everything Hlaalu stands for!
yes it does dumbass.
that is why they are going over and paying imperial money for Hlaalu slave-made products
Try actually reading instead of being a retarded tourist offended at foreign cultures tolerating each-other's differences for the sake of trade.

>>744685156
I'll accept the concession.

>>744685780
>Most Imperial citizens assume the practice will die out as Morrowind adopts Imperial ways, and the subject excites little passion except among Argonian and Khajiit abolitionists
I missed it but this retard just ruined his own argument with the very quote he spouted.
per your own quoted lore, merchants don't care unless they happen to be abolitionists
Tourists really can't fucking read lmao

The traders don't give a fuck and are banking on cultural bleed fixing it eventually.
Good job proving me right even further

>>744685872
>yes it does
Retard-kun...

>>744686112
per your own quotes, the ONLY people who give a fuck are a tiny group of abolitionists.
fuck off, retarded tourist.

>>744686019
Now argue the difference between Vvanderfell and Narsis coming straight out of Cyrodiil, sub-65IQ anon, and >>744682512

>>744671594
In official lore, Hlaalu is mostly full of opportunistic merchant-like personalities who genuinely see Empire as an opportunity for themselves, and then at the same time Camonna Tong is also using them as a tool through Orvas Dren’s connections. Which ended up being costly to them when Vvardenfell went to hell later on, as the more anti-Empire houses really punished Hlaalu for their pro-Empire stance.

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The new TR Indoril tileset is so aesthetically pleasing
It's a shame we'll have to wait 8-something years before they finally tackle the Stronghold, but I'm sure modders will come up with a few player home mods until then

Uh oh, TR devs are in this thread.

>>744686183
So no argument on the Empire finding it barbaric when you called someone a tourist when he said the Empire was "appalled by slavery", or on the fact the Hlaalu are still the lesser evil the Empire is forced to make use of and not a willing ally?

>>744675175
Does OpenMW have any level up mods or magicka mods now? It's all the little QoL stuff that keeps me from swapping to it.

>>744686207
>difference between Vvanderfell and Narsis
what kind of retarded tourist are you?
>saaaar argue the difference between Baltimore and Amberica!
can't even bother to get the names right or know basic geography?

any hlaalu town that has farming is gonna have a few slaves, retard.
Balmora doesn't have slaves because it has no farming, and is purely administrative/trading.
Once again, a retarded tourist can't even remember that the BASE GAME has a hlaalu town without slaves.
>>744686405
More nonsensical garbage.
Ok so you are a retarded ESL.
The empire is NOT appalled by slavery.
They don't CARE about slavery unless its the abolitionists.
Slavery doesn't affect them, its not an issue for them.
Its just some foreign thing they assume will go away on its own.

>>744686395
Either that or someone that's made these projects and these discussions their whole personality to stick it to Bethesda's canon.

>>744686395
>>744686563
bad samefag.
if you are gonna criticize shit about lore it helps to READ the lore first.
or perhaps PLAY the base game.

Uh oh, melty

>>744686501
>level up mods or magicka mods
I've never screwed with the game's leveling system nor have I ever touched a magicka regen mod if thats what you mean. This is prime heresy, Safe to say, I have no knowledge of those things but they probably exist. I'm getting the feeling that most modders go for OpenMW these days

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>>744686541
Learn how to read or get fucked, it ain't my problem.

>>744686501
https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/58693
https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/58691
I don't do leveling mods but custom spell support was added in the latest version. We've got TR spells right now and there are even more ports coming https://youtu.be/e6IcS5uaDQ0

>>744686738
>retarded ESL cannot read and comprehend
Ok thank you for confirming you cannot read english, ESL.

>>744681096
The earlier areas have no content, Ebonheart has too much content, and adding content where it wasn't asked like an epilogue is stupid. Redoran players have been waiting for two decades.

>>744686501
There's a mod that implements the levelling from Oblivion Remastered

too much hostility going on.
relax n'wahs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dLYTNccnHk

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What would be a good Indoril character for the upcoming Poison Song release?
I guess having speechcraft is unnecessary if you also have illusion but I don't really know what to fill out the rest of the minor skills with.

>>744687042
It is just baffling to me that some people can be so stupid and retarded that they cannot comprehend foreign cultures like the imperials and the dunmer.
They think it impossible that people can find something barbaric but not appalling, and just not care about it and happily trade with them.
Meanwhile that shit goes on all the time IRL.
We still happily trade with people that unironically keep slaves and other traditions we find barbaric.
And like with slavery in Morrowind, only a tiny minority give a fuck.

>>744671416
I join Hlaalu because I play as a Man with vested interest in the success of the Empire, but I secretly have high admiration for House Redoran.

>>744687172
Swap Illusion for Armorer or something. I honestly "complete" most of my builds in the major skills alone and minor skills feels extremely extra to me.
I wouldn't mid a mod where you couldn't level any misc skills now that I think about it.

>>744686736
>I'm getting the feeling that most modders go for OpenMW these days
I guess eventually there will be a big merge idk. But I'll stick with MWSE for a bit longer. How does mod installation work win OpenWM? Do you use MO2 with it or does it use it's own system for installing/managing mods?

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>>744669995
>>744677348
I used the console to teleport her to my Telvanni Tower to be my personal slave and favourite concubine

>>744687564
Looking smooth as fuck

>>744687459
Why Armorer? I think I want Illusion mainly for the Sanctuary and Sound spells.

>>744687486
I have a folder in c:/ where I put all the mods, inside just a folder with the mod's name and in it the things that normally go to data files like the textures and meshes folders etc. You insert mod directories in a tab in openmw launcher. Theres a script that automates everything but it relies on lists and is useless outside of that called momw

Personally I don't like installing 500 mods and I'm perfectly content with my setup. I spend 2-3 hours to finish it and now I'll never change it

>>744687486
Nowadays you usually boot the launcher and click Append in the Data tab. You navigate to the mod file and it's done. If it has an esp you enable it from the launcher as well. Mod order is simply dragging things up and down.

>>744687675
Well I think Speechcraft is nicer for roleplaying and your issue seemed to be similar skill functions. You could also never learn charm/frenzy and keep both.

There should really be as much debt slavery (as in actual, put you in debtor's prison to tan skins and make matches debt slavery, not current year debt slavery) in depictions of the TES Empire as there is chattel slavery in Morrowind. If there's no "fresh start" oriented bankruptcy law, that's what happens, and it should be obviously integrated into industry the same way. That's another reason people weren't that buttblasted about slavery IRL, because they saw de facto legit slavery everywhere.

>>744687926
*as far as I know Markarth in Skyrim is the only time they ever really did it

>>744671704
>TR
fanfic slop

>>744688136
>fanfic slop
So is Oblivion, Skyrim and ESO

TR is bad because Todd isn't involved in it.

No Todd = Not playing. Simple as

>>744688258
Show your Redguard hours NOW

>>744689472
I do this

>>744679049
meh it's still good
ppl expect things to be "perfect" and entirely free of their autistic niggles
silliness

how2make OpenMW look good?
and by that I mean make it look like MGEXE

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>>744679049
I think they're abusing the "seamless integration" thing with this argument because that's mostly advertised to apply to gameplay, as in how you can go back and forth freely and earn faction rep and there's even dialogue changes to account for it. How seamless the game is when it comes to quest design and things like that isn't even a settled topic in TR development history. This mod is a bunch of different layers of history stacked on top of each other sometimes with old layers being reworked to meet new standards and the standards have changed over time. Old Ebonheart is a big example that they of course bring up first which sticks out like a sore thumb compared to the newest updates, and that's partially because the newer updates from the past few years are doing it so much better and OE being a pain point that no one is perfectly happy with.

I also flat out don't agree with the idea that Bethesda wouldn't have made things more fantastical with more set pieces if they had the time. Which isn't even their argument, they just want you to gloss over that and treat what we ended up with as the definitive vision of Morrowind was supposed to be, despite all of the internal dev evidence that they originally had much bigger plans. The biggest obviously being making the mainland itself.

The poster doesn't even bring up the different circumstances with how Morrowind was developed with a deadline, having to release on an underpowered console, with desperate last minute additions like the Imperial Cult quests for example. Probably because it would hurt to argument to speculate on what Morrowind could have been if they had the luxury that the TR team has using modern tools targeting toaster specs on an established engine. If Bethesda had a decade to cook we would have had an insane game in more ways than one.

>>744692064
Morrowind has more Dummer than Skyrim Nord population

>>744693148
Does anyone ever really say to start with TR installed? I'm playing TR for the first time and I think it's pretty amazing and I'd still never for a second tell anyone to start with it installed for their first game of Morrowind. And once that prospect is completely set aside and everyone thinks TR is for a second playthrough at the absolute earliest, it's hard to get that butthurt about anything they do with it.

>>744688203
True. Only C0DA is canon.

trying to play as pure merchant with a blade is hard. joined the hlaalu this time for opportunities, then they send me to a telvanni tower like i'm some merc. got through the dremora by abusing costly health potions and my devil tanto. right after that its more what i expected, striking an ebony deal with the ashlander camp.

>>744692064
>all those Telvanni Bosmer
oy vey

>>744695394
They're mercs.

>>744694518
Using your money powers to buy temporary tools like a summon scroll seems in character

>>744695616
it was a rather early quest so i'm not as n'wah rich yet. after the zainab camp and my hotwife ahnassi gifting me 20 ebony stars, the story is different. i didnt expect the dremora is all, the skellys and lesser bonewalkers are okay.

lets hope things go better. wealth beyond measure, anonlanders

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is it coincidental he looks close to caius and carries moonsugar? was talos watching over me the whole time?

>>744683712
The Imperials literally operate a mine that uses slave labor in the base game at Caldera and like half of every slave smuggler you can fight in caves and such are non-dunmer, i.e Imperial citizens. falling for in-universe propaganda and thinking everybody in the Empire is an altruist who genuinely cares for the lives of cats and lizards is unbelievably stupid.

>>744685780
Your own quote states that the average Imperial citizen doesn't actually give much of a fuck at all and for the most part only a minority of militant abolitionists actively try to suppress it instead of just going "eh, i'm sure it will go away eventually"

>>744686207
An Imperial trader arriving in Narsis will be there to do business and make money. They will most likely not care about the lives of beast men, both because it's not their problem and the Imperial public canonically doesn't care that much about slavery as said in the quote you posted, and because they're human nobility from eastern Tamriel and thus very likely employ Argonians under questionable conditions themselves, as described in material like the Argonian Account books.

What are some nice places you can use as player homes in TR?

>all these TR devs
I'm not playing your corny fanfic

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>>744697048
Are there TR devs in the room with us right now?

>>744697048
>m-m-muh foonfic!
Yeah, everyone heard you the first time, faggot.

>>744697048
What are the chances that this guy is just an Imperialfag that's pissed off about them sticking to a nuanced depiction of imperial attitudes towards slavery (which is taken directly from information present in the base game) instead of portraying his favorite race as the hecking wholesome objectively good boyos and the protagonists of the franchise like he was probably told in some Skyrim Civil War thread

>>744671132
I wish Morrowind felt like this

>>744685780
but that quote literally says that the imperial government does little to stop slavery even when it directly affects a province where it's illegal and that it's mostly just khajiit and argonians who have strong feelings about the issue in the wider empire...

>>744679049
Merchants have always been the leaders of the slave trades IRL
It's a commodity they traded lol

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>>744697135
Yes, the thread has them shilling their troon mod. I don't want fag pride in Morrowind, so I avoid TR

>>744699427
That is just Kirkbride's wife being butthurt about not getting any attention

>>744669457
This is what I loved about Morrowind. The characters are self-centred and live in their own little worlds. They couldn't give a fuck about you, or Dagoth Ur, or the Nerevarine. They're all just looking to get ahead in whatever station of life they have found themselves, and their only interactions with you are geared towards helping them achieve that. Completely different to Skyrim guards jerking you off about how you're a super cool dragonborn chosen one.

>>744697992
probably that.
he comes off as some sort of political type who cannot separate his own morals from that of a fantasy world.
so he is REALLY just mad that imperials don't adhere to HIS personal morals.
morals of a relatively wealthy, privileged, first world citizen of a wealthy country.

>>744697992
>>744700001
Wait, what's wrong with imperials anyway? I thought they were just fantasy romans?

>>744699427
>retarded tourist tries to seethe about "the lore is wrong" in TR
>doesn't know jack SHIT about the lore
>spergs out, can't read english properly
>tries to cherry pick words and freak out further
>gets owned
>more people come and laugh
>starts seething more
>suddenly crying about trannies
I can always mod out anything faggoty they put in.
shame you cant do the same to yourself

OpenMW's Expanded Vanilla modlist is just too good.
Also, I'm playing a purely pro-Imperial campaign right now. I'm joining as many Imperial groups as I can, including Census and Excise Office.

>>744700074
>what's wrong with imperials anyway?
in what way

>>744670862
what chest?

>>744700074
nothing, if you are a well-adjusted person who can accept that romans don't fully align with modern moral standards.
romans had plenty of slaves as well.
anyways, the imperials just happen to be fairly mercantile minded and have leveraged this to great success after their empire was founded.
This naturally means that in order to expand their influence, they tolerate a certain level of cultural difference in order to keep trade and relations going.
Especially with an insular nation like vvardenfell during the time of morrowind.
They are making money and exporting culture, trusting time to smooth things over because Dunmer culture isn't bleeding into imperial culture.
So slaves literally are not a big deal, and in the meantime they can make money, keep the peace, expand their reach, and have a potential ally if someone else decides to pull some bullshit.

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>>744687359
Can't wait for ~2030 when Redoran has full mainland content. Pic is their capital, Blacklight.

>>744700401
How can light be black

>>744700401
oh I must have been wrong earlier.
I thought Ald-ruhn was their family capital.

>>744672001
>I'm leaving the TR stuff for after finishing the main quest
This seems like a really bad idea given the overwhelming majority of TR content is tailored for early game characters.

>>744682512
>Every single Hlaalu town and house shouldn't have 10 slaves in it
They don't, though.

>>744701537

It can be, depending on how you like to play. You would be significantly overleveled for a good chunk of the content. The two best ways to approach it is either incorporate it in a playthrough with the main game, particularly if you choose to only specialize in a few guilds.

The other way and one that in my experience is a way to really immerse yourself in TR is to lock yourself entirely to the TR region. I had a blast on my previous character starting in Old Ebonheart and working my way through a lot of the newer areas. Spent 70 hours on that play through and still barely scratched the surface. Would recommend.

>>744694518
Are you allowed to sell items to the same merchant you bought them from? Because that's when the merchant build gets broken.

>>744700309
Supply chest I assume.

>>744702439
>Spent 70 hours on that play
I don't know how anyone can do this. I'm massively overpowering pretty much everything after completing a single questline and a handful of miscellaneous quests. Even when intentionally avoiding trainers. The gear progression alone will break the game in no time.

>>744679049
This post is just an extension of that one guy's argument that he doesn't WANT TR to exist and expand the mainland, he wants them to do new quests for Vvardenfell. That's the root of his every complaint.

>>744689472
is this achievable natty?

>>744700467
The Redoran Council moved to Ald-Ruhn recently to confront the Dagoth-Ur issue, but the traditional seat is Blacklight.

>>744702439
>The other way and one that in my experience is a way to really immerse yourself in TR is to lock yourself entirely to the TR region.
Yeah, or at least starting on the mainland.

>>744703615
Ah so it is the current seat of Redoran power like I thought, just not the traditional one.

Any mods like AshFall that adds player needs (eat, sleep, drink, etc) but without all the crafting bloat?
Or is AshFall really the only option?

>>744703108

I was using Path of the Incarnate modpack at the time and had levelled set drastically slower. After 70 hours I was around mid 20s.

>>744673703
Total Overhaul modlist + a few other mods like N'Garde

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>>744669457
Woke slop

>>744699427
so what was actually said?

>>744705479
where?

>>744679049
>almas thirr
I always thought that city was retarded. like seriously who creates a fuck hueg building in the middle of the lake instead of creating a bridge.

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>>744706643
Haha yeah, that would literally never happen...

>>744706643
It's a temple-city in the middle of a religiously significant area, like Molag Mar

>>744706775
Also looks retarded.
>>744706839
yeah than why not create a temple on like the side of the river. it's not like the lake is so big that ships can pass without trouble

>>744706918
>Also looks retarded.
Why? Care to use your words?

>>744683321
i think vivec is still rather big just for the levels as well. people underestimate the sewers and plazas. narsis is still gigantic and how the other anon said, its more like a morrowind II experience. i also agree one should first play the vvardenfell stuff if he hasnt before, but for a second playthrough its fine to go to bal foyen or old ebonheart first

>>744706918
Because judging by Vivec and Molag Mar canton-based cities like those are specifically designed to be built on the water, presumably both for defensive purposes and because it's more impressive that way, and the ships can pass without trouble since it's a pretty wide river that's logically even wider in-universe and the bridge is high up on the highest level of the canton and on the cliffsides

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>>744702549
i just buy stuff at one place and sell at another and keep notes (mostly mental notes unless its a huge load of merch). the traveling is fun as well. avoiding and sorts of exploits and prior knowledge where good loot is makes it more fun. currently i'm specializing in silver arrows and bolts.

27th or something for poison song, if nothing goes wrong, right?
What about Markarth?

>>744707710
They're doing questing for Markarth, you won't see it until Winter at earliest.

>Join the mage's guild
>Instead of doing any magic stuff you help a mentally retarded cat and murder or rob people
Man Morrowind is such poorly written shit

>>744709759
retard

>>744682180
Hlaalu are literally supposed to be Empire sympathizers, what the fuck do you mean, nigger? The discord group isn't sending their best.

>>744681096
There's a happy middle ground between "no content" and "too much content". I'm personally happy that they're willing to make and give so much, but I feel like it's just gotten too big. It might sound silly, but it's absurd that you need to play for 20-60 hours to experience everything Vvardenfell has to offer, while mainland Morrowind takes incalculable hundreds if not thousands of hours. Keep in mind it's still growing, too. And if all that content was genuinely good it'd not be a problem, but a lot of it is just kind of filler content. Like it's big for no reason at this point.

Even more importantly than that, there's limited dev time and resources. It's a fragile project, we're betting it all on no one important dying before the full release because if they do it could result in major delays or even another collapse of the project. And we still have about 5-10 years before that release. The makers should really prioritize having all of Morrowind done and being high quality, rather that 60% of Morrowind being done with mediocre quality but with more content than most players will ever see.

>>744712313
partly, but people like orvas dren still run the show in the background and they clearly arent sympathizers. the hlaalu are essentially a front for the mafia and nationalists that would take over the minute the empire faces a crisis. if todd didnt nuke morrowind, they'd be practically empire free during/after the oblivion crisis. that would mean killing and taking over any remaining sympathizers and garrisons/imperials etc.

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>>744712957
that gives you a reason to replay and rp with different characters. too much content is fine for anyone that doesnt have some sort of ocd like having to unblacken the minimap/discover everything.

>>744705809
NTA but isn't he gay or something. At the very least he looks and soundly incredibly gay. massive indoril faggot

>>744682225
Some TR devs are actually working on a mod reworking Vivec to fit better with TR (it's officially a different project but done by TR devs)

>>744713564
what does this even mean

>>744713564
Man I've been waiting for the TR people to start overhauling Vvardenfell as well.

>>744672035
Curio is a gigantic, diseased, degenerate, godless faggot.

>>744713606
Some TR devs decided to start their own separate mod to rework Vivec City to fit with TR more

TAMRUH

>>744672035
Orvas Dren isn't a Hlaalu councilor you retarded tourist. His brother, Vedam Dren, the actual grandmaster of House Hlaalu is the biggest Empire cockslurper in the game

>>744713335
I was about to write a reply explaining why you're retarded and wrong but this other anon did it for me >>744714052.
Come back when you play the game, moron.

>>744714297
its LITERALLY said in the game when asking about latest rumors, pseud.

>>744712313
>>744714297
>retarded tourist is STILL seething and trying to talk shit after getting shut down in every way

>>744714748
>characters say it in the game, therefore they must be correct!!!
When you play the Hlaalu questline you find out it's actually false and Vedam Dren sees Orvas as a huge liability.
>>744714748
Embarrassing samefag.

>>744715052
>Embarrassing samefag
Meant for >>744714983

>>744715082
No, I am the guy who glanced to confirm lore I already knew while you were seething about
>how DARE the Hlaalu traders have slaves on display REEEE TR BAD REEEEEE
and proved you to be full of shit.
:)
You know, the one you keep RUNNING from because if you dare spout any more fanfiction you will be exposed, shut down, and laughed at for being a retarded tourist? :)

>>744679049
This is your post isn't it you fucking autist

>>744715149
You seem really attached to your lorelet fanfic that the Camonna Tong are secretly behind House Hlaalu but it's simply not true.
Of course it's in the Hlaalu's best interest to comply with Empire laws, displaying slaves is retarded no matter how you try to cope and justify it.

>>744715337
Nta but why are you blatantly lying? Do you hate a mod so much you need to come up with inane shit to validate your opinion

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>>744715337
I didn't say any of that though?
you corrected that dude, and I didn't care because it was true and he was wrong :)
Sorry to hear you are seething so badly hours later you think everyone is me.
>Of course it's in the Hlaalu's best interest to comply with Empire laws
per empire law, Hlaalu is legally allowed to have slaves, retarded tourist :)
Did you throw too big a tantrum and forget?
>>744684849
no, no its NOT in their best interest to follow YOUR retarded headcannon, tourist.
They are not going to throw away all of their fucking farm equipment and bankrupt themselves to look good TO YOU personally.
The empire, as has been established, doesn't care.
Nobody in the empire besides the abolitionists gives a fuck :)
Its cannon.
Established by official published lore :)
Tourist.

>>744715497
someone's having a melty

>>744715547
>zero arguments
oooooh the tourist forgot lmao

Rolstonfag seething right now

>>744703710
all house and imperial settlements on vvardenfell are few decades old at best

>>744716002
you mean they moved their dealings into there within the last few decades.
the only new settlement of the major house locations is balmora at about 45 years old.
ald'ruhn is centuries old and sadrith mora is 800-1000