>Finally deliver an entry in the series that looks and plays well>Writing is so bland and boilerplate it kills the series entirelyHow did they fuck this up?
>>744675998Tales of Arise was alright. I got it used for $10 and platinumed it. I heard about the absolute abomination that was Beyond the Dawn though, thank fuck I dodged that bullet.
It didn't kill the series. Its just that Namco-Bandai have absolutely zero money at the moment. They haven't had any money for about two or three years now.There are larger issues going on for Japanese developers than just titles that weren't massively successful. Look at From Software and their investors in spite of Elden Ring selling like 30 million copies.
>>744675998I WANT TO FEEL YOUR HEART RIGHT NOW YOU ARE THE PLACE MY ONLY HOPE OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOO
>>744675998>plays wellI got filtered at the 2nd boss and gave up because I got mad there's a DPS check and no multiplayer option and was seething on top of how bosses just don't get stunned so you're forced into this meme of roll dodging and just using one attack
>>744676501literal skill issue wtf just put the difficulty on easy until you learn the mechanics and can turn it up later, the combat just clicks
>>744676643If you're trying to say that you don't use one or two hit attacks and then immediately roll dodge because you're anticipating the boss just RNG throwing out an attack whenever it wants because you don't know if your attack will RNG stun it or not then you are just simply a fucking liar
>>744677551i have like 500 hours in tales of arise anon i double dipped it on pc and on the switch 2 just put down the difficulty and learn what attacks stuns and what not, the more you play the more party members you'll get that will help you with the enemies gimmicks
>lets give every monster hyper armor
>>744677551>>744677728Yea, I went in full offense the more I am familiar with the game. Also, I don't play the MC for most of the later part of the game since I don't care for his gameplay and his assist is so great as a free stagger that let you interrupt enemies and continue the offense.
>>744675998>Arise>looks and plays wellFuck off lolArise is dogshit OP
>>744678043Trust me, play with Alphen, he's a beast, I'm going beyond and saying that's the reason why you're struggling. If you're on the 2nd boss that means you have what, Shione, and Rimwell?
>>744678215Nah, Im not the original guy and i already finished the game on hard. I just don't like the mechanic where you have to sacrifice hp to use you cool shit. I prefer playing Law but imo, Kisara is the most broken character with an extremely safe playstyle while dealing a shitload of damage as well.
the huge problem was, while it was a great entry and is much deeper beyond it's surface aesthetic and at-first-glance-theming, Berseria played into the whole Subversion aspect at the exact wrong time, when subversion in media became the new self fellating thing it is now. Berseria does well when stacked up against Zestiria (not a high bar to pass), but what really got it a lot of it's praise was how much better it's story was, moreso than the gameplay (which was also great). The issue, is this was hot off the heels of the tumblr era, and internet atheism still had it's iron clad grip on nerd spaces. Berseria drew a shit ton of these reddit/tumblr tier atheists who'll throw money at anything that even remotely calls religion into scrutiny in any way, and on the surface, Berseria is a "church bad, demons good" story that they can't help but jack off to. The irony? It's much deeper than that, but it doesn't matter how deep a narrative actually is, so long as the surface level is apparent enough so they can virtue signal about supporting media that is "edgy" and "counter culture" enough. My point? they tried really really hard with the marketing leading up to Arise's release, trying to channel that edgy crowd (not necessarily the exact crowd but there's a ton of overlap with retarded reddit tumblrinas and the "zomg i love morally GREY media" crowd). They saw how much money they made off of Berseria, tried to replicate it with surface level edginess (slave plot during the middle of the covid nigger worship era) from the setup, main character, and framing of the story in promos, that they thought it couldn't possibly fail. And while the gameplay is fun (sans everything having super armor for no fucking reason), the story is so bland, there's actually no real depth to it, and the surface level edginess falls off quickly, so it doesn't even commit to that. They thought they could try and coast by on aesthetics alone, like Persona 5, and they flopped for it.
>>744678434based Kisara enjoyer, I remember getting all the fish as soon as I could just to see here triumph scenes
>Arise>plays wellThe only game that plays worse than this offbrand pile of dogshit is Tempest and Tempest is at the very least a Tales of game rather than an entirely different game with the brand name attached on it at the very last minute
>>744677858Granshit relink did the same thing and it was praised for that. Then again both games did there 1 million normie copies sold then stopped with a half ass DLC added years later.
>>744675998>Writing is so bland and boilerplate it kills the series entirelyI thought it was a cool story.Slavery always makes for fun games
>>744680749the slavery plot fucking dies like 3 hours after pressing new game
>>744678472I don't think Beseria did anything new regarding the whole subversion or morally aspect. Beseria only failed because it was tied to Zestria, which is regarded as the one of the worst tale of all time. Even if Beseria would be good at a standalone, its story and character are tied to Zestria.Symphonia already did the whole church/religion bad twist thing.Xilia 1, imo, did a great job with the subversion and morally ambiguous theme. The whole thing carried into one of the best final boss sequence in tales game (and it was a hard as fuck battle as well)
>>744675998Tales of Ednaphillia
>>744675998>>Writing is so bland and boilerplatethis is every tales of
>>744676501Bosses do get stunned though? You can knock them down and take off half their health in seconds. That's why they have Over Limit mechanics too.
>>744675998I like the writing and characters in Arise so far. It's a solid, fun RPG adventure with a likeable cast and plenty of character interactions. Do people really want every goddamn story to be some post-modern subversion of expectations now? If so you can all burn in hell, seriously. That's one of the reasons we haven't been getting any good, chsrming RPGs like we used to. I'm heading to Lenegis soon to fight some bitch with ugly flat bangs. I'd love to stay and argue about the game being good but I don't want spoilers, so you can just assume I disagree with whatever bullshit reason everyone apparently has to hate on this game. Fucking weird to me that it's so hated, not a damn thing wrong with it so far.Except Zeugle bosses roaring all the time, fuck that shit, annoying
>>744675998Not with those bosses
>>744683719Nice boots, how much time did you waste on that?
>>744675998>plays welllol.
>>744686875450 seconds times 4 failed gens
>>744687251That's actually getting quite impressive but is this another SFW only one?
>>744684320Enjoy the zeugle boss spam in the final dungeon, they basically gave up on encounters for that entire segment and then halfway through it they're just recolored with a red tint.
>>744675998>plays well
playan this on my hacked PS3, translated and with 4 player with my bros tonight, I'm excited /v/any tips from trve knowers?
>>744677551>I'm dogshit so everybody else must be dogshit I'd tell you to kill yourself but you probably couldn't do that either
>>744675998This was terrible. I dropped it when you get on the boat. Not sure how far into it I was.Symphonia 1 is the only good game in this shitty franchise.
>>744689359Rita's early game is a little bland especially before you get overlimit which lets you spam like crazy.If you play Rita, consider spending your early game farming fireball uses. Fireball shoots more projectiles the more times you've used it in a playthrough, but the cost doesnt change. If you spam fireball every fight, after about 500 casts it gets really efficient, and it slowly gets better with even more casts. Make sure to use it at a long range because the tracking on the fireballs is bad.By the time you get some other good spells you'll also have a really good fireball.
>>744675998Kisara's design is peak
>>744684320Imo, arise story was fine but got dragged down by law and rinwell but they are literally children so I kinda excuse them. Other characters' arc are pretty good.
>>744675998Isn't this the game where you can't lift any major enemies and so you just end up spamming that one upward slash move with retardhuge damage?
>>744691824Kisara was terrible>this is my brother migal>he dies 5 minutes later>literally every topic she ever brings up she has to correlate to her dead brother>migal taught me this >yeah migal was better at doing this than me>migal would know what to do here >when i was younger migal and I-great character very interesting development
>>744684320I enjoyed the story up until the final arc. Have fun though, anon.
>>744675998Symphonia and Abyss are still the best for some reason, they shouldn't be that hard to eclipse.
>>744675998I think the writing was fine. Kind of fun leading an anime slave revolt. But man did they shit the bed in that last act.
>>744675998>plays well>every random mob is a damage sponge>the only way to deal decent damage is to spam the fire sword moves, otherwise every fight feels like a slog
>>744675998>>Writing is so bland and boilerplate it kills the series entirely>How did they fuck this up?I wouldnt blame Arise itself it was Scamco's retarded mobage addiction. They followed up Arise with yet another fucking Tales of mobile game (There was already 2 other Tales mobile games running at this time.) instead of using the momentum of the sales Arise had to start porting/remastering their massive back catalog to keep people on the Tales train until they could put the next new game out.So then basically nothing for years until out of fucking nowhere Scamco decided to release a story expansion DLC for Arise years after people stopped giving a fuck. Now finally in the big 2025-6 theyve actually started porting the back catalog of games (Graces, Xillia, Eternia) which they should have started doing about a decade ago btw that Mobile game they released on the heels of Arise EoS'd in less than 6 months and the other mobile games also EoS'd not much longer after that.
>>744675998Pale pink tight panties all over your face
>NOOOOOOOO, GETTING REVENGE ON THE CRAZY PSYCHOPATH THAT MURDERED YOUR WHOLE FAMILY IS WRONG!>its wrong because....IT JUST IS OKAY
>>744693527Pretty funny when you consider Velvet is probably the most popular Tales heroine at this point and she was totally down to doom the entire world just to get her revenge>>744693067>But man did they shit the bed in that last act.It was their tribute to Vesperia
Every Tales has a pretty generic anime adventure story.I honestly cant remember the plot of a single one without looking it up.
>>744693527>but it's okay when a crazy psychopath kills MY family DIE GANABELT DIEEEEE
>>744692794Yes, her whole character development is being less dependent on her brother and the dogma of her position to become the caretaker of the whole party.
>>744694147And I don't need to hear about it 80 times
>>744693030>Abysshttps://youtu.be/OYcpKtftciM?t=80
>>744675998>Finally deliver an entry in the series that looks and plays wellthat was berseria
>>744693734Your inattentiveness and/or lack of memory isn't an argument against something's quality.
>>744676305Publicly traded companies don't reinvest profits back into the company. It's always the same death spiral.
>>744696401Berseria is a 2016 PS3 game built on assets that already looked like dogshit back when Xillia was released. However you feel about the combat, you can't say it looks good.
>>744678472All this to say Velvet made the small peepee the big peepee.
>>744697713Before Bamco was pozzed.
